i failed my AA 19 by double pulling the pack at the start being 3+4 set
#protection
signal agate
strong forum
That is the hardest pull in the dungeon
2 axes, 1 staff and 4 elementals is alot to manage
signal agate
i just feel very squishy at 411 ilvl even with mostly correct Cd management
i also got clapped by the two birds at the end before boss
strong forum
Huh
signal agate
before cawth
strong forum
Do you not use shield block or smth
Oh right
Bolster
You just bolstered the fuck out of them
signal agate
they were x3 bolster
signal agate
right no that makes sense
signal agate
yeah no i just feel bad when i fail keys i know i should be able to tank
strong forum
It's fort bolstering
The literal anti tank week
Bolstering can make any key into a nightmare that 1shots the tank
On any level
sudden hearth
hi, can some1 help what embelishments we use for prot in m+ ?
deep spruce
hi, can some1 help what embelishments we use for prot in m+ ?
Pins
sterile bough
stun, dwarf, evoker
signal agate
yeah im possibly the worst race ever also i brought an evoker he did very little to help that
dense citrus
hey guys i have a question
kinda new to tank so couldnt figure out which one is better
dont have valor atm cant upgrade whetsone
which one scales better?
i have 402 decoration of flame on the other slot
lusty tiger
Whetstone is amazing
wanton flax
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/bis-gear
Blazebinders hoof and Ruby Whelp Shell, really?
cedar trench
errant brook
So. Heroic Diurna Add Duty: M+ build, or something spicier? I'm not so trusting of the Wowhead guides because of crap like that ^.
strong forum
Add tank is just get an aoe build yea
jagged pier
stark garnet
I feel like every fort week the skelly bois in SMBG do a lot of dam with their void slash. What do you lads do about them?
I do my best with stuns and cds but it still feels scary
teal linden
Hey, quick question. What embelished effect is wanted on a crafted shield?
heady gyro
I do my best with stuns and cds but it still feels scary
Stun and run.
feral dune
that and spell reflect
heady gyro
I do my best with stuns and cds but it still feels scary
Druid vortex, monk ring, mage frost nova. The group should also help you with whatever they have available.. Heroic leap is also a good tool to get the hell out of there.
heady gyro
that and spell reflect
Yeah that too
stark garnet
Alright thank you. Figured the best bet once it doesn't feel comfortable is to leg it
finite scarab
Alright thank you. Figured the best bet once it doesn't feel comfortable is to l...
can spell block it to
lean gale
Anyone playing Ruby Welp :D?
sick sentinel
can someone explain how side arm would be better than titanic throw for keys and in general as well
i must be missing something because way i worked it out, SA is basically 13s CD on average (20% = 1 in 5, 5 x 2.6 weapon seed = 13s) which it says is only triggered by auto attacks, for 3,000 dmg, up to 3 targets
titanic only a 3s cd and does 4242 to up to 5
lofty widget
do you wanna run out of the pack to titanic throw every 3 seconds?
fluid shard
Tfw you forget you’re talented into titanic and try to single pull a mob
sick sentinel
well, that explains the 8 part i was seeing last night
i was thinking some how that it was 8s cd, i think i was tired and the 3 looked like an 8, or its wowhead
lusty tiger
can someone explain how side arm would be better than titanic throw for keys and...
I take both
Titanic throw is amazing with a premade when you’re doing big/long pulls
lusty tiger
Ew
deft mortar
And healer was too busy casting moonfire
lusty tiger
Classic
sick sentinel
its one of those things where u have to use it pre - pull
or during casted, or not at all
deft mortar
its one of those things that I have 421 but wish I didnt
lusty tiger
Rough
deft mortar
Funny thing is I had 2 options
sick sentinel
you were in control of choosing a different item from vault
deft mortar
421 this or 421 the rolling bones shit
sick sentinel
nobody else chose that item for you
deft mortar
I am still glad I didnt opt for the meme mine spawning trinket
lusty tiger
its one of those things that I have 421 but wish I didnt
Ur a bfa prot war now
sick sentinel
ive madew horrible vault choices too, but just you have to live with it now
you made your bed so sleep in it
summer eagle
lusty tiger
2b|!2b
sick sentinel
i don't really have that problem
deft mortar
im just being a jerk buddy we good lmao
us rn
im the gorilla
obv
im such a good gorilla ngl
lusty tiger
U guys really jerkn off your 🤡 energy
sick sentinel
reason being, i have been tauren regular since BFA, and i get a 0.5 channel stun so that and some BFA trinket i just simply had to learn when and when not to channel spell
lusty tiger
im such a good gorilla ngl
Me learn sign language 
sick sentinel
oh yeah, it because of font of aszhara
lusty tiger
Font was awesome
sick sentinel
and i didnt want it to ever channel below 3.9 seconds once i learned how it worked
font was fucking over powered as fuck
i would do just about anything have this trinket return
slam that on the healer, GG EZ
this one too,
hollow vortex
into the fray or heavy repercussions?
spice orbit
yes
sick sentinel
choice really
spice orbit
fray is more fun
sick sentinel
its you choose the one that you like better
hollow vortex
cool, ty
spice orbit
its one of those things where u have to use it pre - pull
solve your rubiks cubes BEFORE battle bois
south zealot
i think skovalds tank hit is a fervent but idk any trash ones
lusty tiger
into the fray or heavy repercussions?
Heavy repercussions
amber siren
HR dungeons, ITF for raids 
lusty tiger
Fray is lukewarm in m+ unless you have amazing apm and enough melee party members
^^
spice orbit
i think skovalds tank hit is a fervent but idk any trash ones
fervent?
south zealot
fervent?
fervent strike was an attack in a bfa dungeon that targeted the closest player if tank was out of range
any attack that behaves like this is generally called a fervent
lean gale
HR M+ - ITF Raid, All below +19 you can do ITF too but above 20 you really need that 100% uptime on Shield
rose oar
muted veldt
Trinket wise I have a blaze binder and a whestone, is whetstone just the clear winner between the two? I have a icon as the other.
sick sentinel
WHETSTONE
deft mortar
is there an achi for timing every dung at 20?
amber siren
you can sim it 
lucid bough
You know how busted is prot bc there are players with 2.7 r.io that are rolling sub 60% uptime in mitigation in keys
frosty mango
Stormbinders x whetstone, full send all day
lean gale
That's how I found out about go bears shroud ttrough sentinels
Hate that route, bc someone will fail always
lusty tiger
You know how busted is prot bc there are players with 2.7 r.io that are ...
Good teams, not busted
cinder storm
You know how busted is prot bc there are players with 2.7 r.io that are ...
Happens with every spec played by fotm rerorrels
lusty tiger
You know how busted is prot bc there are players with 2.7 r.io that are ...
U try doing that w a pug group
cinder storm
There's a bunch of top tank carried by god tier dps players every season
lusty tiger
There's a bunch of top tank carried by god tier dps players every season
Wish it could be me
cinder storm
Wish it could be me
Same, you see people getting three dps doing 110-120k meanwhile, I'm happy if I have at least one doing 90k 
sick sentinel
are they also 414 ilvl equip?
cuz i mean
if thats the case.....
i can EASILY see why this may happen
lusty tiger
https://gyazo.com/a0498dd43f8309ebe8fb175852e90caa
Prot has been nerfed many times in pvp this xpac
woven trellis
Same, you see people getting three dps doing 110-120k meanwhile, I'm happy if I ...
you know how youre pulling impacts that right
sick sentinel
is there seriously no stun removal potion in DF like in SL and BFA????!?!???
lusty tiger
Same, you see people getting three dps doing 110-120k meanwhile, I'm happy if I ...
Preach bruthah
Literally same
jagged granite
I find it wierd that a rogue should be able to kill a tank in 5 seconds either way, It just aint right
cinder storm
you know how youre pulling impacts that right
Yeah no, that's a tame excuse after 20s, it's the dps that are lacking
sick sentinel
one guy in my AA 13 2 chest did 79k dps
lusty tiger
you know how youre pulling impacts that right
Then why is one dps pumping and the other are 20%+ behind them
sick sentinel
i was quite happy with him
woven trellis
dungeon as well, u cant expect people in TJS or SBG to do 110 or 120k in the same manner they get it in a Academy
cloud tide
can u get spark from world treasures?
woven trellis
Then why is one dps pumping and the other are 20%+ behind them
could be damage profile, a rogue will do more on small pulls
lusty tiger
dungeon as well, u cant expect people in TJS or SBG to do 110 or 120k in the sam...
U are misinterpreting the situation
woven trellis
im just giving some margin of error where the tank can improve the situation, ofc not everything is ur fault
sick sentinel
default bags is better than bagnon fight me
toxic pewter
can u get spark from world treasures?
I think you can.. I haven’t found one that way yet though
cinder storm
Most of us are not "one pack per pull" tanks here so I beg to differ, at one point you need all three dps to be close or 10% diff from the top two
lusty tiger
im just giving some margin of error where the tank can improve the situation, of...
Chances are the specs that would excel on “better pulls” are being played by pugs that would have just died in that situation of 1 dps doing alright and there other 2 being significantly behind
woven trellis
Most of us are not "one pack per pull" tanks here so I beg to differ, at one poi...
its not just pack size but how theyre lined up, tracking CDs etc
it is a possibility, im just saying its not systemically that
systematically
cinder storm
Or, the dps I find are not that good
woven trellis
am i using the right word
stoic elm
is there any good guide for mage tower on prot warrior?
sick sentinel
how do i prevent group from ass pulling mobs on other side when doing primaljuggernaught 2
cuz hes got like some kb
deft mortar
look at my warr in the eyes and tell him to pull 1 pack
sick sentinel
look at my warr in the eyes and tell him to pull 1 pack
cloud tide
is lariat big dps upgrade?
spice orbit
default bags is better than bagnon fight me
Separate bags gang. does default handshake
heavy temple
dungeon as well, u cant expect people in TJS or SBG to do 110 or 120k in the sam...
we are talking about ONE dps, being 20/30% behind the other two.
old bronze
anyone got a pastebin or something for simming consumables like howling vs buzzing, phials etc
or is there a way to do it in raidbots and i'm just blind?
lusty tiger
look at my warr in the eyes and tell him to pull 1 pack
Last pack TJS
lusty tiger
2 packs you have to be crispy af with cc
lusty tiger
look at my warr in the eyes and tell him to pull 1 pack
Outer patrol NO first boss zone
sick sentinel
Separate bags gang. *does default handshake*
main thing i wish i had from bagnon is it shows how many potions in bag or in bank, or on an alt
sick sentinel
man its wild, i had a 3700x with a stock wraith cooler it was pretty good performance but hot, i upgraded to a dual 120mm tower fan and 5600x and honestly not looked back
temps from 80c to tops is 48c today for same performance
cosmic olive
any tank big boi for 19 AV? Balls to the walls kind of tank
half steeple
finally got my 2 set bonus, should i use revenge for the buff instead of ignore pain now for defense?
toxic pewter
Wat
Definitely want to work to keep the bonus up and also using ignore pain to dump rage
unborn vigil
Ignore pain remains a higher priority, revenge every 5 seconds to maintain buff where it doesn't negatively impact your ability to maintain shield block and ignore pain.
lofty widget
finally got my 2 set bonus, should i use revenge for the buff instead of ignore ...
you revenge as much as possible, IP only to avoid overcapping rage
sick sentinel
patiently awaiting my 4 set
half steeple
is it still more important to use shield slam and thunderclap on cd than to use revenge for the buff?
lofty widget
yep, generators before spenders
sick sentinel
if in aoe and you have revenge lit up, go for it
half steeple
ok thanks for the help👍
spare loom
are these talents okay?
dusky canopy
what are you using them for?
lofty widget
dont play barbaric training
i'd swap thunderlord to battering ram
other than that looks fine
half steeple
you guys dont use Battle-scarred Veteran?
wet osprey
anyone know why my ignore pain WA bar doesnt work?
spare loom
alright, thank youu
half steeple
nop, doesnt work
is it buggy?
crude spruce
why drop thundering words in m+
sorry thunderlord*
you can use it so often especially on fort weeks those packs are tough
lofty widget
is it buggy?
it procs pre-mitigation
so it can proc when youre at 80 % hp for example
spare loom
do I use whirlwind in any occasion? or is it as useless as Slam?
lofty widget
useless
spare loom
awesome
in an AoE pull i'd go Charge > Demoralizing Shout > Avatar > Shield Block > Ravager > Thunderous Roar > Thunder Clap > Shield Slam and either Revenge or Ignore Pain as spender?
and keep up shield block constantly
lofty widget
ravager>charge>avatar while charging>tc>demo>TR>normal rotation
lofty widget
ofc getting SB up asap and then using IP to avoid overcapping rage
spare loom
awesome thank you
finite scarab
why dont u shield charge so u get sb as well
toxic pewter
Yah def don’t forget shield charge
lofty widget
oh right, after TR probably
toxic pewter
Go practice on training dummy for a few hours
lofty widget
did you guys bind the two Stances to something?
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
toxic pewter
did you guys bind the two Stances to something?
I just use the single stance switching macro. Definitely have it bound
Ya that one
finite scarab
oh right, after TR probably
but why would u do a normal charge over shield charge on the go in so u get sb
lofty widget
because SC is a dmg button
and it does splash dmg
so no point usingit before everything is stacked
toxic pewter
Well can do more damage from demo shout
spare loom
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
thank you
lofty widget
and yeah it lines up with demo every time so no point using it before demo
wet osprey
anyone have a good Ignore pain WA tracker thats a bar and not a icon?
spare loom
Luxthos has nice WA
wet osprey
ty, it what i needed
stable valve
do people still generally pull flameguller
I’ve been skipping.
Does a lot of unavoidable group dmg that imo is harder then the first mob + pack that would have to skip otherwise
toxic pewter
Yah I skip also for sure
inner rock
Whats the right way to skip him? I find pugs go out of their way to stand and pull him.
balmy narwhal
I was watching a stream and I was wondering if you guys can tell me what addon this is? It shoes the spells/cd of mobs that are on CD. It also shows the party's cd
(I am talking about those little icons next to nameplate)
sick sentinel
damn, tried to run 13 tjs but we depleted
tame jasper
I was watching a stream and I was wondering if you guys can tell me what addon t...
its a weakaura
balmy narwhal
Thank you!
spice orbit
Boys, make it stop
sick sentinel
reef holly
I was watching a stream and I was wondering if you guys can tell me what addon t...
I think OmniCD-
sweet summit
isn't that addon ancient at this point
sick sentinel
i have an addon from 4.3.4
i'll attempt more TJS and then a cos practice or whatever
halcyon dust
40K dps overall aint too bad, right? 18K hps (404 ilvl)
mighty valley
Varies based on dungeon but yeah not bad, room to get better
fading tide
Anyone know if the lordaron shield off malganis will be on the trading post?
strong forum
🔮
lofty widget
hope they reserve trading post for new tmog/unobtainable stuff instead
agile elbow
^
toxic pewter
That flail thing on the trading post where was that from originally?
fading tide
Prot pally similar to prot war or not even close?
lofty widget
that's new
dusky canopy
Prot pally similar to prot war or not even close?
you have a shield on both i guess
toxic pewter
Oh nice I thought it was from something previously
strong forum
that flail is literally the definition of new cool shit
toxic pewter
Yah that badass I def getting that
deft mortar
Just a reminder that I flexed my 240k shield slams on blood dk discord and got muted
xdxd
strong forum
🆗
dusky canopy
wait trading post flail is obtainable right now?
strong forum
trading post isnt even open
lofty widget
available on the 1st
dusky canopy
thought so
dusky canopy
Mhmm
fading tide
Mog stuff
strong forum
the t hing that becomes available at 1st feb
harsh light
just FYI for those who havent had this happen yet, balakar khan getting accidentally pulled with minis is actually not to big a deal handled it well with a pug group on a 21
woulda missed time by less than a minute if 2 of our cc'ers didnt killed by lighting in 2nd phase
fading tide
Brag city
sick sentinel
deft mortar
bruh at that point just solo it xd
I had to solo nokhud last boss past 20%
at 20
Spell Reflect is a blessing ngl
sick sentinel
we didn't bring a brez
and healer died to alot of stuff, not sure what was going on
rough egret
but this boss is soloable even on tyran 🙂
sick sentinel
sure, it is, until ppl get surprised by the beam and go boom
rough egret
😄
sick sentinel
it happens alot faster than you think
rough egret
well 🙂 practice makes you better
you can watch timers and its visible when the beam starts
when and where
stone horizon
any tips for mage tower challenge?
rough egret
it does 🙂
compact dove
any tips for mage tower challenge?
Stay focused and use spell reflect the 2nd phase for the healing debuff
And don’t get knocked from the Plattform 😂
deft mortar
why wont this fkn prevoker keep me full hp ugghhh
mf is doing 6k dps too
what else does he do
reef holly
sure, it is, until ppl get surprised by the beam and go boom
Dps probably high AF
And why do dps drop the whirlwinds on inner circle #smoothbrain
On another note I just timed AV 17 with one wipe #feelsgoodman always great when dps do over 60k and can kick the icy bindings #puglife
woven trellis
Spell Reflect is a blessing ngl
It's not up for every buster tho
fallen pulsar
any tips for mage tower challenge?
Dont stay in the puddle for more than 6-7 stacks. Kill eyes while waiting for stacks to go down. Dodge the knockbacks. Should have enough dps to smoke the boss if you’re doing your rotation properly. Damage is negligible unless you take a ton of puddle stacks tbh
solar mirage
for temple r u guys pulling the big guy and caster together
grim hare
Considering a new shield block cast just adds its duration to a pre-existing shield block, is there any reason to not just use it on cooldown
sick sentinel
disc priest is really good right now, just saying
void marten
guys, slightly offtopic but we used broodkeeper skip, now we cant go back to other bosses, the door is closed
anyone encountered such an issue?
sick sentinel
i just ran with one and little compliants about his healling compared to others ive had
im +15 on io today though for 1857, slowly gettin there
peak arch
there's some rare times you might want to hold on to your other charge but you need to be able to make that decision for yourself. like if a packs about to die I'd save that charge for a new pack
sick sentinel
pro tip u can often charge on the valkyr add on odyn
wet tartan
Teleport out and back into instance?
tepid raptor
gonna craft neck
finite scarab
just go to raz and jump off and die dose that not bring u to start?
finite scarab
nvm
finite scarab
im stupid forgot it takes u back to brood
sick sentinel
peak arch
haste. vers = crit . mastery
sick sentinel
this is is the best keys i've done for week, some depleted
peak arch
personally I'd go with haste vers. haste crit would be slightly more dmg but less survivability
sick sentinel
versa is strong, modifies alot of stuff
random hare
just fnished leveling my warrior. what profession gear should i focus on with the 5 sparks? is there a useful order, like shield -> lariat -> ...
wet tartan
WowHead is a fantastic source for this stuff
I enjoy subcreation site too >Shows what the community is actually using
Updates every week based on affixes, what keys are run, etc
peak arch
in terms of the embellishments they are all very close. I think getting the weapon and the shield would be the best as long as they are big upgrades
finite scarab
just fnished leveling my warrior. what profession gear should i focus on with th...
shield/lariat/belt/wep
random hare
shield/lariat/belt/wep
perfect. thank you 🙂
finite scarab
he has 5 sparks so can get all
void marten
just go to raz and jump off and die dose that not bring u to start?
nope, back to broodkeper
void marten
Teleport out and back into instance?
back to broodkeeper
finite scarab
nope, back to broodkeper
yeah i said after that
was stupid
try swaping dif and zoning in
then swap back to what ever u were
and rezone
sick sentinel
can somone link me a pug friendly cos route
finite scarab
tbh on like 16s and 17s i just wing the cos route do the docks pull if u want then just get % where needed before 2nd boss
mortal brook
cos route can based on the buffs that are available tbh. just be at 94% before doing 2nd boss
subtle sparrow
Does bubble remove the Dathea debuff? Pala tank, self bubble
subtle sparrow
I was doing a pug, I was supposed to go up first, but the pala tank kept taunting and had 3 stacks when the add spawned, so I stayed to take boss and thought the pala would take the add. I got kicked for not taking the add.
Got confused
mortal brook
prob something to talk about beforehand
subtle sparrow
Was no talk, just pull and kick after one attempt
mortal brook
but yeah kinda silly
reef holly
pro tip u can often charge on the valkyr add on odyn
This is a must- and then tank odyn in center to easily see rune
turbid shuttle
you can leap every pull
no need to charge. and sometimes the add will be out of charge range
i prefer leap personally but whatev
astral harbor
Guys, i can only have 3 embelishment on same time ?
south zealot
you can leap every pull
better to save leap for the rune
south zealot
Guys, i can only have 3 embelishment on same time ?
two
steel mauve
2 plus food one
astral harbor
So, if i got the Lariat and potion absoption
turbid shuttle
better to save leap for the rune
can you get stunned out of your leap by balls?
astral harbor
the armor spikes wont work ?
south zealot
can you get stunned out of your leap by balls?
maybe? i cant remember ever getting hit by one mid jump
steel mauve
either you wont be able to equip a third one, or the third embellishment wont work, ive never tried
astral harbor
but the lariat counts as embelishment ?
tropic tangle
yes
steel mauve
can you get stunned out of your leap by balls?
you should be stunned, never tried to leap myself, but leap is always countered by pretty much every thing, fire lines between elementals on eranog, tornadoes, pretty sure aoe stuns during the storm shit either in m+ or raz
turbid shuttle
yeah I figured. I'd be pretty nervous leaping to my rune through a bunch of balls, but I've never really tried it so who knows
steel mauve
100% cant leaps through line type abilities i know, the rest im like 85% sure
last boss of SBG and eranog specifically
finite scarab
yeah I figured. I'd be pretty nervous leaping to my rune through a bunch of ball...
no u cant leap through balls
learnt the hard way
steel mauve
they changed it at some point, i quit after a month of shadowlands, used to leap acted as if you were still standing on the spot you leapt from, until you landed then the game would register your new position, but doesnt seem to be the case any more
barely played in bfa and hardly in shadowlands so idk when it got changed
turbid shuttle
yeah then I'll maintain my preference for leaping to adds and just walking to rune
finite scarab
i like to tank boss on edge to bait the spears out of mid then when he cast shatter spears just run to mid cause brand is following it up that way u dont have a ton of balls in mid
sullen lichen
hey guys in SMBG, the 1st pack after the first boss, i have threat on all of them but they go off and fixate on dps. they're bugged right?
pulsar sedge
They cast on random players.
They will also MC random people too if they are not kicked.
sullen lichen
no not the cast, the subjacted souls
pulsar sedge
The guys that cast death wish?
sullen lichen
the Subjugated Souls
pulsar sedge
Hmm. If its not the random casts, then no. They are not bugged. I havent had a run where they were focused on someone other than me
south zealot
based on the agro of the dudes casting dominate
though very rarely i will see someone get meleed
sullen lichen
not the dominators. not the ones that cast
the lil ones
they just melee
because i clearly have all aggro on them, but some just fixate and run towards a player
and starts meleeing
sullen flame
I'm not so sure it's aggro based even though that's what I keep seeing everyone say. I had one chase my healer down on the pack after 2nd boss. No chance he did more threat there than the tank did.
south zealot
not the dominators. not the ones that cast
the dominators agro table matches the little dudes
if you dont have agro on the dominators the little dudes will run around
sullen lichen
hmmm
sick sentinel
i only have a maximum of around 60 points i can squeeze out of this cos
probably like 40 reasonably
sullen lichen
the dominators agro table matches the little dudes
idk, ill test out ur thing, but i popped avatar with whetstone with spamming SS/TC
my bars didnt change color saying i lost aggro
but we'll see
grim hare
On luxthos weakaura pack what was the percentage indiciate for ignore pain
Is it the shield cap?
spare loom
what food should I get for m+? I can't afford banquet
south zealot
what food should I get for m+? I can't afford banquet
fortune cookie
weird how they add a food that loots you an item when you cant even loot items mid m+ run
spare loom
fortune cookie or fated fortune cookie?
south zealot
fated
strong forum
There's also crit + haste food called feisty fish sticks that's also very good
mortal brook
alchemical flavor pocket
strong forum
Dunno the name of the haste food
spare loom
There's also crit + haste food called feisty fish sticks that's also very good
i'll get the fish sticks then
mortal brook
timely demise
hidden ether
Have an 18 Jade, me and healer friend, zero sign ups ever
steady steppe
should i run both raid proc rings or is it not really worth
mortal brook
free effect that eats no budget? usable
oak ivy
what % of the cap you're at
oak ivy
If its mid run, haste
is it ever really worth the time loss for such a tiny buff to eat?
soft hamlet
turbid shuttle
there's a quest to give you a charge
steady steppe
dont i have 1 charge already
turbid shuttle
get it from the rock boi up on top of valdrakken by alexstraza
warm plinth
IT's pretty easy to complete the weekly. Dungeons are 25% each
Raid bosses too I believe
turbid shuttle
first day was op. world boss gave 50%.
finite scarab
did they nerf that?
turbid shuttle
yeah. 20% now i believe
finite scarab
f
steady steppe
can i do LFR eranog like 4 times or does it stop after first kill
finite scarab
just queue normal dngs and pull the entre dng easy
steady steppe
yea im doing that rn
strong forum
Just do literally 4 dungeons and you're done
cinder nova
Any auras that can show kicks via CC?
rough egret
How is IP calculated to its maximum?
cinder nova
HP.
rough egret
Like what is the factor or coeficient to have it maxed
lofty widget
30 % of your max hp
rough egret
Okay
But strength increases it aswell
But not cap
Alright
Just the amount you get per 1 use
cinder nova
Lots of stuff will affect you get per use, but the cap is bounded by max hp
gilded glacier
is there a weak aura or something I can use to help me get good at using Spell Reflect? I find myself forgetting to use it because I dont know what I can use it for most of the time
idle inlet
is there a weak aura or something I can use to help me get good at using Spell R...
Get the WA, it even has a voice that tells you to press it
gilded glacier
Thanks. I figured there was a WA, but searching Wago sometimes sucks
steady steppe
just queue normal dngs and pull the entre dng easy
i did a normal dung and im still at 0%
gilded glacier
soup, siege, the new primal event count towards iot
as well as any of the golden dragon WQs that are meant for groups iirc
weary saddle
At SBG worm boss, the 2 add smaller worms - do u need to tank? i usually ignore them but i noticed they pewpew at the healer.
finite scarab
i did a normal dung and im still at 0%
maybe they fixed it i got % day one
finite scarab
At SBG worm boss, the 2 add smaller worms - do u need to tank? i usually ignore ...
as far as im aware u dont have to
i think they just shoot at the group
naive panther
it's funny how easy druid and warrior mage tower was, BDK took me quite a bit, and still struggling with brew, but once done there hoping dh and pally isn't bad
steel mauve
i didnt get % from a heroic when i had done the quest, i had to do world boss, feast event and group related world quests and stuff
naive panther
DH was insanely hard in legion before class changes and mage tower nerfs
gilded glacier
it's funny how easy druid and warrior mage tower was, BDK took me quite a bit, a...
I still cant get druid, but I can see it being easy with nuking the boss with convoke in moonkin form
gilded glacier
I still havent tried Prot Warrior tower
strong forum
Vdh post spb rework was mindblowingly easy in legion
Like, it's insane how easy of a time vdh had in 7.2.5 even with only 880 gear and only 1 legendary
But now, with the current talent tree it should be a joke
cinder nova
Any idea what the deal is with key mentality in pugs
naive panther
druid took me 2 tries, just moonfire it all and it just melts
cinder nova
I can get halfway through cleanly in most keys, but then someone socials or we miss a kick but aren't dead, just chunked and everyone flounders
naive panther
incap little adds
didn't do convoke
took the other one
just died on brew to annihilate
seem to do fine with everything else on brew so far, looks like can stun kruul though
strong forum
You can fully cc kruul yes
naive panther
brew feels hella squishy here, both phases
sick sentinel
academy is a tough key
strong forum
brew feels hella squishy here, both phases
You should have CB for every annihilate so should be free af no?
dense ledge
does potion of gusts work with jumping down in av?
naive panther
hmm maybe
cinder storm
I'm thinking about crafting either chest or wrist, which one would be better?
reef holly
Anyone know what the timer for RLP is? I just had a very close finish, but according to raiderio, it’s not showing that I timed it
cinder storm
Anyone know what the timer for RLP is? I just had a very close finish, but accor...
30mins
reef holly
Ty
naive panther
9% on brew that time, yes I had cb for everyone one, but after i dunno how many I rotted to something, dunno if a heal got off or i just do crap dps but it was way way too long
jade berry
Is there a tier list for prot trinkets? Can't find anything stickied
naive panther
third annihilate doing 13k damage, i had 1 second cd on my cb
i missed time second looks like
strong forum
Is there a tier list for prot trinkets? Can't find anything stickied
Grieftorch, all-totem, whetstone, icon( if you get all procs) are the 4 best trinkets
Boon is also good for padding but risky af to use
jade berry
I've died so many times with boon that I don't even use it anymore equipped lol
strong forum
Yes
whole vortex
Boon 
deft hazel
why do dps decide to pull more then cant interrupt then proceed to wipe group xd
sick sentinel
sbg free
deft hazel
sterile sorrel
How is this for an overall tanking build?
Doing heroics now working my way to mythic
warm plinth
I think that's the first build posted where I can say it's actually fine
sterile sorrel
Sweet!
sick sentinel
i got the toe trinket
warm plinth
There's changes that I personally would make but that's actually a completely fine build
yuge crit :pog:
warm plinth
You can tank pretty much anything with that build.
warm plinth
Are you using CCs and orbs to delay his annihilates? Maybe need to focus on damage more?
Using drums and all that?
naive panther
yeah drums even
and orbs and stuns cc etc
but he annilates after a cc pretty quickly
lol rop fails at delaying it too ahgahg
stack hp gems? lol
warm plinth
idk talking to a BrM friend and he said he only got 2 annihilates, so might need to focus on damage a bit
naive panther
somehow my damage is super low compared to the other tanks ive done it with
warm plinth
What build are you using?
warm plinth
Oh hey it's the brm friend
I shall take my leave of this conversation I have no knowledge in
warm plinth
❤️
jaunty rune
What do you guys think is better between Phial of Glacial Fury or Eye of the storm for like 18-20 keys?
cinder storm
I use eye in that range, mainly because its cheap
jaunty rune
Okay and what potions are you using?
jaunty rune
Do HP potions and battle pots share a cd?
molten rivet
Is there any way to raise our parry chance, apart from Crit?
sick sentinel
battle pot and invis share
sick sentinel
yeah thats sadge
cinder storm
It's not a waste if you learnt something new
naive panther
i mean i've done the fight on 4 tanks now
just couldn't dps the thing hard enough on monk
sick sentinel
ig its a waste as in if he'd played the st build it would be dead an hour ago
naive panther
need a specific build for DH one?
sick sentinel
does the serenity monk build take bfb or charred?
i just played the raid one again
cinder storm
I only did MT for my war/druid in SL, war was fustrating, druid was ez mode
sick sentinel
i struggled for druid in sl
was like 500 pulls or some shit
but killed brm in like 3
strong forum
Is there any way to raise our parry chance, apart from Crit?
Str
naive panther
I never bothered doing it in SL, was like been there done that when it was aids
strong forum
SL wasnt much harder, but pwar did take me 12 tries
cinder storm
It took me about 20-25, then I read about farming legion gear and took me about 3 tries after
strong forum
I did it rawdog
No special gear
I think that's just admitting defeat
To abuse OP gear cuz of scaling and 300 extra sockets
cinder storm
That was actually the fustrating part for me
fallen pulsar
is frosted armor set better than fierce armor set?
strong forum
Yes
cinder storm
Accepting that I was lacking with current gear then having a chill time with older gear
fallen pulsar
is armor just always better for us than stamina then
strong forum
Armor = Str
fallen pulsar
ah
strong forum
It's largely inconsequential however
Since both are literally tiny amounts of stats, stamina or armor from enchants
fallen pulsar
yeah, but since they aren't that expensive, might as well use the more correct one
I had been using fierce
errant brook
Can you get a 5-star shield crafted without embellisments? (wearing the Lariat and Belt).
fallen pulsar
yes
errant brook
Bummer. Rollin' the dice, it is.
strong forum
It's a fucked up lovely system
errant brook
^ that
unreal lily
All the crafters do free recrafts with t2 mats so it's usually not too bad
errant brook
Thanks.
strong forum
Not all of them, but any respectable one does
unreal lily
Not all of them, but any respectable one does
True
craggy kelp
is there a way to quick mark a mob?
cinder storm
Automark weakaura
There was another one that I had which opened a lil circle and you could manually mark it
cinder storm
But I deleted that one
errant brook
Crit or vers on a crafted shield?
fallen pulsar
dealers choice
errant brook
Figured.
cinder storm
anyone got a marker for placing ground markers?
Qazis video on world markers
craggy kelp
i tought there was a way
to put those skull icons on the skillbar
and i just click
fallen pulsar
this is my put skull marker on target macro
/script SetRaidTarget("target",8)
cinder storm
You have to be party leader
It used to be that automakers would override each other if you were not tanking but now it checks if the tank has it and if it does, dps automarker will not work
cinder storm
Show healing taken
sick sentinel
i blame the dps killing the add on the wall way out in narnia
crude notch
If you depleted a 15 by 1m30s it's far more than one add phase that killed the key.
cinder storm
You'd need a couple of wipes on last boss to deplete that key, usually
sick sentinel
accidently summoned a whole bunch of those death blast guys on the 2nd boss
cinder storm
A bunch?
jade tartan
is there anyway to do the skip to 3rd boss from 2nd boss in AV ? as warrior
without being dead?
sick sentinel
2 or 3 abouts, cuz its just a walk on rune tirgger
cinder storm
is there anyway to do the skip to 3rd boss from 2nd boss in AV ? as warrior
with...
Leap
jade tartan
no target insight
jade tartan
"no path availabe" what ever you wanna call it
cinder storm
Just use the book to fly back to the ring, look down and jump to the ring where the boss is from the inner ring
cold pollen
Dps overall?
they said i should be over 80k overall in academy and i stood around 50k
cinder storm
they said i should be over 80k overall in academy and i stood around 50k
55-60k is better if you stay def stance the whole time
sick sentinel
tbh im just running whatever keys i can right now and seeing if i can complete any on time
long as it can give io
naive panther
DH took me like 2 tries
3
I haven't played prot paladin in ages ages
hopefully rotation takes 2 sec to figure out
edgy flint
Missed a 20 TJS by 1.5min qq . I hate that last add pack
naive panther
last tank to go
sick sentinel
try again i gues
steep crest
So I have a question about vaults, I don't really want prot gear for my prot warrior, i have already crafted a 418 shield, would I be bette off opening it as fury if i want a 1h/dps trinket chance?
obviously I know i could still get a 2h, but has anyone opened it as fury to see a 1h options?
warm plinth
You can get 1h from fury
craggy kelp
and how do u get agro when thers alot more mobs and ur aoe taunt is on cd?
edgy bone
What does everyone think about this build
Like max bleed damage DPS
the top guy on raider io is using it
The shiny talents are what's different than the current WoWhead build
plush moat
ehm does someone know the macro for defense stance and attack stance switching?
cinder storm
Pins
plush moat
ok
craggy pilot
The shiny talents are what's different than the current WoWhead build
bloodborne is not a good dmg talent, and ITF is not good for Keys unless you make up for the lost SB uptime some other way
Pummel CD talents are also usually not needed
he might be using it cus he is running with a comp that has low kicks, idk
pallid quiver
What does everyone think about this build
The bleed damage increase isn't worth the points damage wise; Tough as Nails gives more damage per point. ITF is more aoe damage at the cost of not dying on average and having worse boss performance. Honed Reflexes, if this is M+, serves minimal purpose since SS never gets naturally reset, so damage wise it is not an increase. You simply get access to more kicks.
pallid quiver
he might be using it cus he is running with a comp that has low kicks, idk
Most of the top IO having warriors believe honed to be a DPS increase from what I've heard
craggy pilot
Most of the top IO having warriors believe honed to be a DPS increase from what ...
do they believe it? or did they sim it? 🤔
pallid quiver
Believe it; I think most don't sim heavily, iirc? Or at least understand, i dunno
I only hear grapevine stuff so
But I've seen more than a few bodies swing around saying it's a DPS and rage gain up due to more SS
craggy pilot
"more SS" 😄
but ye idk, SS does reset naturally for me, albeit very rarely
you can make up for it by inviting 5 tanks to the grp 🙂
real cypress
Is howling rune better than the primal weightstones or is it dependent on ST vs multi target fights
wide charm
how much of a dps increase is battering ram ?
craggy pilot
how much of a dps increase is battering ram ?
you can sim it
for me they sim very similar in all situations, but Crit sims 100 DPS higher
the thing is haste will give both DPS and more Rage which equals to defense
while Crit will give DPS + Parry
sick sentinel
austere marsh
do you also get a bug where your shield is not visible?
sick sentinel
got a 15, even if it is just SBG
craggy pilot
do you also get a bug where your shield is not visible?
are you in profession gear?
austere marsh
crafted shield
craggy pilot
check your buffs if you are in crafted gear
austere marsh
that worked, thank you
craggy pilot
alchemy i guess?
austere marsh
yep
craggy pilot
had it happen on my Shaman also
go talk to the guy that disables Profession gear
its rly trolling me to not be able to see my shield/offhand
craggy pilot
that worked, thank you
Mahra Treebender
covert aurora
I can craft 1 405 and 1 418. Should I go 405 larriot and 418 sword ? cuirrent gear is 380's
craggy pilot
I can craft 1 405 and 1 418. Should I go 405 larriot and 418 sword ? cuirrent ...
418 shield
lime patrol
alright, thanks!
covert aurora
I have a 402 shield already
craggy pilot
I have a 402 shield already
ok?
you never said what ilvl the rest of your gear is 🤷♂️
proven patio
do you also get a bug where your shield is not visible?
Yes. A lot
warm plinth
Ihad a bug where I went through an entire key on my rogue and the only part of me that was visible was my main hand weapon. Even other people couldn't see anything but the weapon
sick sentinel
how the fuck do you time AA lol
warm plinth
What level was that?
sick sentinel
vex bird tree someone from this channel told me
it wasnt bad
its just
idk
yea
warm plinth
How was boss damage?
gloomy turret
ive heard alot about "too much vers" recently. whats the ideal vers level we should be at? (assuming theres no real good answer, but i could be wrong)
warm plinth
ive heard alot about "too much vers" recently. whats the ideal vers level we sho...
There's no real number. There's no such thing as too much or too little vers. There's just too many people who think they need to stack it, which is not true.
If you end up with high vers, fine. If you end up with low vers, also fine.
eager tulip
hey, can someone tell me. If you have 4P prot gear, are you supposed to get ignore pain during Vanguard's Detertimination even if you dont have an ignore pain up. I thought it was suppose to give you ignore pain even if you didnt have it up
warm plinth
ilevel>haste>doesn't matter basically is how I approach it.
warm plinth
hey, can someone tell me. If you have 4P prot gear, are you supposed to get ign...
It has nothing to do with the 2pc. You get an IP by dealing damage if you don't already have one.
fallow nova
Doesn't it specifically say "during Vanguards Determination"?
eager tulip
It has nothing to do with the 2pc. You get an IP by dealing damage if you don't...
Ive experimented. i dont get ignore pain during vanguards determination
warm plinth
Doesn't it specifically say "during Vanguards Determination"?
Yes, I worded it poorly. I just meant that you should basically have full uptime on 2pc anyway so it's not really a concern.
warm plinth
No, like I said, I worded it poorly.
eager tulip
Yes, I worded it poorly. I just meant that you should basically have full uptim...
MY MISTAKE! You do get ignore pain, its just not showing up on Luxthos WA
warm plinth
Ive experimented. i dont get ignore pain during vanguards determination
Yeah someone else had said there were issues with WAs showing the 4pc IPs
fallow nova
I wind up in the situation a LOT where det is about to drop and the next gcd thunderclap comes off cd so I have to choose, with SS likely being the next one after that
Enough of that happening and I drop 2pc for 2 gcds pretty often if I prioritize thunderclap
warm plinth
Yeah as far as I know you still do the normal prio. Losing it for a couple globals isn't the end of the world
fallow nova
Cool beans
grave orchid
hi completely new prot warrior here. i read the wowhead prot warrior guide and it doesnt say anything about whirlwind and rend. can i assume i dont need those two on my bar?
warm plinth
Not me reading through the icy-veins guide again and seeing this and thinking it's part of the guide
warm plinth
hi completely new prot warrior here. i read the wowhead prot warrior guide and i...
Slam (not Shield Slam), Whirlwind, and Rend can safely be removed from your bars entirely.
Rend is applied by Thunder Clap via the Blood and Thunder talent, and Whirlwind is basically a universally weaker version of Revenge.
And Slam is just garbage in general.
grave orchid
thxthx i see!
warm plinth
I'd recommend you use the builds in the pins vs the ones on wowhead btw @grave orchid
grave orchid
the 11/08 ones right?
sick sentinel
keys are hard
cinder storm
Pugs are hard
jaunty rune
I was watching someone do a +24 vault trying to get a better idea of the routes for a +20, I noticed his talents where slightly different then normal. Are other people running similar talents in higher keys or is it just specifically him?
Well I know it's fairly similar to the meta talents aside from a few, but those few seem helpful.
sick sentinel
its not them thats screwing up tho, its me
robust lark
the 11/08 ones right?
Also don't use defensive stance
cinder storm
That's just a AV talent, lower leap CD for last boss, storm bolt to help stop adds, spellblock for second and last boss, bolster for extra def to pump more on IP?
robust lark
(except in niche situations)
onyx needle
I was watching someone do a +24 vault trying to get a better idea of the routes ...
I think he just prefers into the fray so he needs to take last stand sb for uptime
cinder storm
I still would run HR lol, bolster is a bit too much, but then again, I'm not the one doing a 24
sick sentinel
for yogi, a 14 feels like a +24
warm plinth
Given that people have timed keys that high with both, I think it's safe to say that if you're doing keys that high, it probably isn't that big of a deal to run either. We don't recommend ItF in here for keys but the beauty of talent trees is that there can be variations and they aren't necessarily wrong.
grave orchid
sorry one last question. i should be actively trying to maintain 2pcs revenge right(make a weak aura or something). or is it a w/e spell
warm plinth
sorry one last question. i should be actively trying to maintain 2pcs revenge ri...
Provided you are doing your rotation properly, the 2pc should not factor in to any decision making.
You don't use Revenge in Execute range on bosses to activate it either. It's basically a net zero/insignificant difference
robust lark
I use this to track it, but I have it set to send the sonar ping sound whenever the aura falls off and with that I barely look at the actual icon. But that's how I track it. I'm a noob though.
grave orchid
i see, so execute>revenge in execute phase if survival isnt an issue, thx!
cinder dirge
Is it true you can reflect the static jolt from Diurna's stormbringer adds ?
(on mythic)
cinder dirge
Ye I saw it on gdoc but idk if it was up to date or not.
Some bosses like Stone Legion back in Nathria would allow you to cancel bleed with Kyrian pot on heroic and normal difficulty but you couldn't do it on mythic
So I was wondering if the static jolt was reflectable EVEN on mythic
warm plinth
Well, Sense (the author of the spreadsheet) raids Mythic so I would assume so
He's 7/8 currently
brisk flax
Does Mythic+ difficulty level affect the bottle drop rate? Anyone know by chance?
odd nimbus
https://wago.io/LGTbj9qkW
I use this to track it, but I have it set to send the...
how can you set that sound up?
robust lark
I'm not in the cockpit right now but it was very simple standby
cinder storm
Does Mythic+ difficulty level affect the bottle drop rate? Anyone know by chanc...
After a certain key level you get more chances of drops but drop rate stays the same
robust lark
how can you set that sound up?
Open WA
Click "Ignore Pain Tracker"
Click "Actions" tab
Scroll down to the "On Hide" sub section
Click the "Play Sound" Box, and choose your sound from the drop down box.
IF I actually knew how to use weak auras, my dream would be to have a backing track of some sort that changes depending on which auras I have up. So like if I've got SB/IP up it's a nice easy tune, and if SB falls it speeds up real quick in tempo, and if SB/IP are both down and I'm in combat it's like frantic "panic" sort of music lol
jolly sedge
Hi all,
Im new to prot warrior so been interesting reading the posts over the last day or two. Quick question. I use intervene for HOV wolf boss so the dps does not need to run away when being chased. my question is what would you drop on your current builds you have pinned to pick up intervene?
or taking intervene in general is noobish and im doing it wrong. lol
odd nimbus
IF I actually knew how to use weak auras, my dream would be to have a backing tr...
thanks mate
robust lark
thanks mate
you're welcome. I have the SB aura set up the same way but it says "iiiidiot" when it drops
jolly sedge
honed reflexes
Thank you
robust lark
hmm the "optimal" M+ pinned build doesn't have P+G or HR talented, so what would you swap then? XD
This one: https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUgRRAVpFRRBBNVUVEVERFVYVVQDQBA
Titanic Throw?
pulsar sedge
Intim shout
pulsar sedge
I think he meant honed reflexes
robust lark
Khaos sand pain and gain or Honed Reflexes
jolly sedge
Intim shout is on the prot tree. intervene is on the warrior tree
robust lark
Intim shout is on warrior tree
pallid quiver
yeah just don't take honed reflexes unless you need that pummel cd
pulsar sedge
Challenging shout is on the prot tree.
pallid quiver
Int Shout's class tree, ye
Titanic Throw would be my go to flex point from there
If you don't need another stop that's off stun dr, you can swap Int Shout over
But do note that pain and gain is an overall relatively minor survivability increase
It's better than some other points, but it's nothing amazingly strong, either
I recommend grabbing more utility over it in general
pulsar sedge
@robust lark the build you linked, if you want to get invtervene for HoV, drop intim. Then you're good. Or titan if you dont feel you need it.
warm plinth
Does Mythic+ difficulty level affect the bottle drop rate? Anyone know by chanc...
Nothing has been confirmed about loot drops. Most "information" is based on the assumption that it's similar to the Legion legenaries drop system but we have no reason to necessarily believe it's the same.
pallid quiver
My completely bullshit feelycraft says your chances increase if you intentionally brick keys
warm plinth
lol
pallid quiver
I'm going to continue believing this so I can understand why healers keep leaving in the middle of dungeons we're on like +2 pace for
tried tanking a 19 rlp
pulsar sedge
RLP is messy with pugs
deft hazel
standing in frontals.. 0 interrupts entire dungeon
dont know mechs
on 2nd and third boss thank god i had fireblood
deft hazel
had to do last boss with no healer last 35%
sick sentinel
might do one more io 14
deft hazel
you can tell the dungeons i hate the most xd
warm plinth
Bruh why do people hate CoS...it's so free
sick sentinel
cos will net me around 30 more points
i won't have to do many 15's but i'll have to do that, that or i'll do a 15 hov
i love halls of valor never take it away from me
primal jetty
What phial do yall run for H Raz?
pallid quiver
Bruh why do people hate CoS...it's so free
I want off mr. bones' wild grind
sick sentinel
only 1 complaint about HOV, you have to 2 phial
and then you sittin there with 15 minutes of phial at end like a dummy
pallid quiver
also pugs really want to fail that key in every way possible
sick sentinel
had super sucessfull 13 rlp earlier this week
sick sentinel
bought 1000 potions, already used 65 of them, probably out of them by end of month easily
steel mauve
Im not a fan of how many dungeons were brough back and created in dragonflight that are honestly relatively short, and then they bring back like halls of valor thats insanely long that doesnt match nearly the rest of them
sick sentinel
back in BFA dk i was in guild with was alch so i had him make me millions of hp potions, and flask
primal jetty
Im not a fan of how many dungeons were brough back and created in dragonflight t...
the variety is nice and i like HoV personally
limber fable
warm plinth
Literally does not matter
jolly sedge
you can tell the dungeons i hate the most xd
Why do so many ppl hate COS? its such a fast easy dungeon esp if you have a stealthy in the group
warm plinth
It's because people make the 2nd boss area much harder than it actually is
in terms of routing, not actual difficulty
deft hazel
because i never tanked it before only dps.. dont wanna be an ape tank
jolly sedge
i love halls of valor never take it away from me
I only just learnt how to activate the last 4 mini bosses in HOV 😄
warm plinth
The only tank responsibility in the entire area is making sure the felguard miniboss doesn't shockwave in a weird direction tbh
deft hazel
The only tank responsibility in the entire area is making sure the felguard mini...
that shockwave so pathetic
spiral lintel
Want to make some Rasz heroic attempts, but I'm confused by certain youtube/guides. When I killed her on normal, we tanked P1 in with the raid for ease of Static Field puddles. But some of the heroic guides show her being tanked facing away from the raid. Do the tanks then have to race around to get into a puddle? What is the benefit here?
mortal brook
having boss faced away means no parries. you dont have to be at the edge of her hitbox, you can be on just the other side of the middle of the hitbox, then just shimmy through for winds
or fancy warrior things like charge and leap and winds are little worry
spiral lintel
Gotcha, appreciate it, ty.
deft mica
Should we save CDs for Demo. Shout windows rather than off of CD? I’m trying to find ways to improve my parses
quiet monolith
Well they are gcds so that will happen, but they should be almost identical cooldown if you are using your gcds well
Because it should shorten the cooldown from talents
deft mica
They’re all relatively close, I’m missing something somewhere
deft hazel
Do yall kill big stone guy alone or bring him to packs in hallway on bolstering in rlp
fallow nova
I grab him and yank back that 1st hallway group into his room
warm plinth
@shut summit @potent anvil hello wonderful friends. I hope you are both doing fantastic and crushing raid and keys! 
sick sentinel
okay, my main goal for tomorrow is like cos 10-12
cuz then ll get 30 points at be at 1950
fallow nova
All I want is my dang whetstone, but after 21 runs this week I'm just tired of that place
warm plinth
That sounds terrible.
fallow nova
I'll just sit on my hoof and deco and be happy lol
sick sentinel
apparenttlu i have ran to completion 31 keys this week
sick sentinel
that doesn't count the numerous keys that failed along the route and disbanded
yogi get whet stone in vault first try EZ
fallow nova
try 52 runs <:gladge:963970137701109820>
I don't have the wherewithal to pug it that many times in a week
cedar trench
i have like stockholm syndrome with COS now i have it
fallow nova
Lol
cedar trench
i find myself searching for Cos without even realizing
fallow nova
Gonna miss it in s2 😆
cedar trench
TBH i agree but by S2 i think i wont mind as much
fallow nova
Interested in how much of a nightmare Brackenhide will be
cedar trench
if this season is anything to go by, i think the first 2-4 weeks will have a BUNCH of big bliz nerf hammer hits and everything will normalize
fallow nova
Probably
cedar trench
Yea but this season has been much more consistent and actual decent changes to mechanics rather than just numbers being changed
at least IMO
the DF dungs next season will be ASS though lol
turbid shuttle
I really liked nelth when I did it on m0. we'll see if that feeling persists on high key
fallow nova
Lets not forget about the most impactful nerf to this season so far - not having to hear all about how I AM GOD-KING SKOOOOOooooOOOOoooOOOOVAAAAAAAAAALD.
Nelth is a cool dungeon for sure
Looking forward to m+ of it
turbid shuttle
halls I did not enjoy. bracken also not a fan. again though, we'll see on high key
I really liked ruby early on, but it ended up being one of the worst for a while
fallow nova
I don't think halls will be too bad
warm plinth
Halls of Infusion is garbage
turbid shuttle
basically the entirety of the trash was bad imo
first ring bad. protodragon area bad. gauntlet bad.
cedar trench
- water hallway
- biting trash mobs
- first trash ring
- Frog boss without a dispel
slim dove
HOI will go through 4 seperate giga nerfs in the first month
before it'll be tolerable.
cedar trench
oh 100%
pseudo garden
Ruby isn't bad at all I love it. AV is awful. With next season having a lot of long dungeons I'm betting we see maw of souls again
slim dove
first ring straight up needs mobs removed or casts removed
cedar trench
once you see the light and start jumping rings in AV its actually really good
not so much this week
turbid shuttle
ruby was awful on high key pre-nerf
2nd boss straight up deletes every tank. cinderbolts 1shot. inferno almost 1-shots. last boss fire 1-shots. 1st boss magic thing absolutely wrecks tank. the explosion wrecks.
and that's not even getting in to the dragons
fallow nova
Wonder what we'll get for the non-DF ones next season
turbid shuttle
like I really enjoyed the dungeon, but it was super super hard
fallow nova
You guys know you want to do months of Everbloom
turbid shuttle
I hope they give us a SL dungeon next season
cedar trench
EOE
turbid shuttle
halls pref
fallow nova
Too early for SL probably