protection

[craggy kelp]

@lusty tiger got thsi

[lusty tiger]

Ez if you know route, pulls and things to kick or reflect

[lusty tiger]

That tells nothing

[winged turret]

So... easy if you're good

Fuck it, sending it

I'll log and report back bois

[round pendant]

don't have to be particularly good

just know mechanics

[lusty tiger]

Need to know if it is actually working, settings are useless otherwise

[craggy kelp]

but this is the aura u meant right?

[valid holly]

guys, the top priority for upgrading to 418 is the shield, right?

[lusty tiger]

Yes

[craggy kelp]

ok

[lusty tiger]

But YOU need to know how it works by color

Or it’s worthless to you

[craggy kelp]

yea

[lusty tiger]

Yes

[craggy kelp]

i dont get what u mean by that xD

[lusty tiger]

Do you have enemy nameplates on?

[craggy kelp]

ye

[lusty tiger]

Do they change color depending on if they’re attacking your OR somebody else?

[craggy kelp]

dont think so

[lusty tiger]

Maybe check

[craggy kelp]

ill go to some random dungeon and see

i just hit 60 so im setting everything p b4 is tart

[lusty tiger]

Good idea

Get used to your keybinds and ui

[craggy kelp]

ye

1 moree question

ignore pain,do you spam it whenever u got rage,or u wait for the timer to go off

same with shield block

[lusty tiger]

Only if you are about to over cap rage

Shield block always

There is nothing to spend rage on until shield block is up

Aka u have the buff

[craggy kelp]

so you only use ignore ain if ur max rage?

[lusty tiger]

Yes

But

Like say you’re 90 rage

And you have a shield slam ready

That’s when u ignore pain

[craggy kelp]

oh

but

what about revenge?

[neat sable]

if you arent in danger

spam that shit

[lusty tiger]

Use when shield slam and thunderclap are down

[craggy kelp]

thats what iw as wondering

i was like,how can u get cap rage if u spam revenge

[lusty tiger]

The BIG BRAIN mechanic of prot war, is not missing any shield slam procs

Then the next layer, is spending your rage in a smart manner

[craggy kelp]

hmm

ok so the white line

i should aim not to go below it right?

[lusty tiger]

Idk

U shouldn’t have 115 rage tho

Bad talent choice sorta

[craggy kelp]

i followed this guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8md1vAmiXc&ab_channel=Dratnos guide

[lusty tiger]

Lol

I’m gonna act

Like u didn’t link that

[craggy kelp]

bro

i just started wow

xD

not even 1 week palying

[lusty tiger]

Ye

All g

YouTubers are not good for wow info 99% of the time

I love dratnos

But not for spec guides

[craggy kelp]

so do you have a talent build for me

[mighty valley]

Check pins

The extra rage cap isn’t awful while you’re learning tbh

But you’ll want to drop it for something when you’re comfy

[random hare]

do we use slam?

[rough egret]

Only the one with shield

[random hare]

😉

[winged turret]

Y'all can make fun of my bars but I'm pretty sure this is every ability prot warriors need to have and not a single more

[lusty tiger]

Seems about right

[woven trellis]

bloodmallet is still bugged for protwar right? it looks still sketchy to me but no message about any bugs anymore

[lusty tiger]

Are the talents filled out?

[mighty valley]

Save your hand, get IP off of a shift bind

[lusty tiger]

^

Ignore pain is “G” for me

[warm plinth]

Looks like it's back to normal to me

[woven trellis]

i never done that

[lusty tiger]

Look at the page

[lusty tiger]

And there is a talent tree

[winged turret]

Listen, I'm weird. All of my keybinds have a feel to them and if the spell doesn't feel right on that button, I can't do it.

[lusty tiger]

U probably don’t practice at training dummy then

[dark lark]

Thunder clap and execute also on shift

[tulip kelp]

I even went one step further and put it on mouse 5 so can just hit it with thumb

[winged turret]

Nah, it's how I've always had my binds. Certain spells have to go certain places. Probably a side effect of being legitimately OCD in real life

[mighty valley]

Follow your heart, we just gotta press ip alongside other buttons a lot and having one on shift and one on not sounds rough

[lusty tiger]

Yea this is an 80cpm spec

[mighty valley]

If your brain doesn’t let you change it I get that tho

[lusty tiger]

So if you’re cool pressing ip 10+ times per minute for 30 min straight

Every key

[woven trellis]

can i import something or i have to manually fill everything

[winged turret]

I mean just for y'all I'll give it a shot but don't be surprised if I change it back

[lusty tiger]

Well that seemed like the bug

[lusty tiger]

It takes a few hours of gameplay to relearn keybinds

[dark lark]

If you're OCD then your most often used abilities should be on efficient keybinds, ones that are easy to reach and only require 1 button

[lusty tiger]

^

[mighty valley]

eh, actual ocd manifests in different ways, it’s not all like tv ocd

[winged turret]

Yeah that's what I was about to say. It's not about how often used they are, it's about whether or not they feel right for that keybind. I know how insane that sounds.

[mighty valley]

Nah my wife also has diagnosed OCD, it’s not a rational condition lol

[lusty tiger]

If it feels right at 115 cpm during lust be my guest

Otherwise ur fooking urself

[winged turret]

my tendons are just built different

(they're not. sometimes they do hurt lmfao)

[dark lark]

Don't ever play outlaw lmao

[craggy kelp]

oh

do you have execute on skill bar?

[lusty tiger]

Yes

But rarely press

[fathom robin]

Thoughts on /castsequence reset=160 shield wall, last stand Macro?

[lusty tiger]

Pretty much only single target as last prio

[lusty tiger]

No

They are different abilities for different things

Also their cooldowns are drastically different

[amber siren]

Please don't macro cds

[warm plinth]

You basically never need to use them at the same time either. And where did you get 2 mins and 40 seconds from?

[earnest nymph]

does spell block have a lot of value in halls?

[fathom robin]

was just an short undershoot of how often it was up after revenge usage.

[lofty widget]

nah

[bold olive]

0 context question time - 405 hoof vs 402 decoration/395 all-flame at 20+ keys? Sim says all-totem/hoof.

[earnest nymph]

I know it helps on hyrja but I don't know that it's needed

[lofty widget]

wall is a sub 1 min cd with proper play

[fathom robin]

It was just napkin math

[warm plinth]

No pretty much just hyrja and the storm drakes and it shouldn't be necessary until pretty high tyr keys for hyrja

[fathom robin]

was really just asking the premise of the usage of something like that actual play

sounds like a resounding no

[sand mason]

Is spell reflect enough for hyrja?

[warm plinth]

Not on high keys, no. You need to combo it with something else

[sand mason]

And we can spell block first dragon in halls? I did not know that yikes

[sand mason]

Would spell block be a reasonable cd? I normally rotate shield wall/healer cd and press spell reflect because prayge but I don’t know if SR actually does anything

[turbid shuttle]

SR gives you an extra 20% magic DR even if you can't reflect.

[warm plinth]

It does, it mitigates 20%

[turbid shuttle]

you can use it for almost every frontal

[warm plinth]

You can use spell block as a cd, sure

There's no magic damage that SR doesn't work on for mitigation purposes that I'm aware of.

[somber shell]

can anyone share a M+ build that has bitter immunity for Alg'athar poison cleanse?

I think I can drop sidearm..

but what else can I drop to get tot hat BI node?

thunderous words?

[karmic plinth]

link your current build

[somber shell]

sec

BkEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFIQAAAAgkkEJJk0SKJJpUQEIUkIRJJBAkE0QSCiARCAAAAAAAEBAoUaAgA

standard M+

[karmic plinth]

you can probably drop barbaric

[somber shell]

good call

[karmic plinth]

as a talent it makes keeping up tier a bit more annoying

[amber siren]

it's not a good talent anyway so good choice

[somber shell]

thanks

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern hi ily and can you change my nickname to Stop Using Barbaric Training, ty

[winged turret]

Well we timed it but lets just say that 14 CoS didn't go how I wanted it to

To be fair I don't think the one wipe was my fault but it might've been, but boy you guys were right, it's imperative to have DPS that don't get frontal'd

[somber shell]

I just totally fucked up a 18 HOV

[winged turret]

I'm pretty sure I got thrown off immediately so I'm borderline terrified to look at my defensives uptime

[somber shell]

sigh 🙂

[sick sentinel]

odyn is a dick

tough boss if youi arent ready

literal only wiped once, maytbe twice in keys, to skovald, never once on fenryr doggo

[warm plinth]

Fenryr gets stupid on higher keys. Claw frenzy is shit

[craggy anchor]

do shield block charges no longer stack?

[warm plinth]

They do

Assuming you mean duration

[sick sentinel]

if you hit sb twice, you get sb uptime X 2 minus GCD

[craggy anchor]

yeah it adds duration

ok my UI isn't really reflecting that

ty

[warm plinth]

It's off gcd

And being on gcd wouldn't remove a gcd of blocking

[sick sentinel]

u can get a crazy amount of SB timer just by hitting buttons, not uncommon for me to see it at like 16 seconds sometimes

When looking at blocked/hit damage in logs - is it just the 'melee' damage taken we care about?

[lofty widget]

that's a good indication

[amber siren]

Melee and whatever other blockable attacks were in the pull/run

[sick sentinel]

Like I just did a +15 NO ~83% SB uptime - and ~17% melee hits weren't blocked - so that seems like something I can improve for tanking

If I'm reading it correctly.

[sand mason]

I ran a 20 Alg with itf instead of hr (I have 30% haste w/o) and man it felt damn good. Can’t wait to get 5% more from gear and run it in most dungeons

It was low key sus af on boss fights but trash felt great with that much haste

[sick sentinel]

yeah, 90-95% blocked hits is what you are really aiming for, unless your doing +20's in which case you want 95 and up

[high drum]

does kurog have to get to a certain point in the cast to lock in storm?

just had him start casting storm, go to the middle, then got the ice add

[mortal brook]

when he gets an extra stack of storm

pull him over at an early 97 to dodge add but get that stack

[high drum]

i see so its not based on the add cast

but on the stack

ty

[jagged pier]

Depends how u pull if u dont hold in the middle u want him to transistion to lighting during 1:59 into the fight

Not 1:58

Not 2mins

1:59

Thats how ive got it consistent

[outer sun]

Aye does anyone know what the WA is that tells u when the cast is on u for SR

[winged turret]

fuck

77% coverage

[sick sentinel]

to be clear, i can still do the "go tree" route if i run an AA correct?

[strong forum]

Both routes are fine

Either tree first or vexamus

[mortal brook]

🔥

[strong forum]

Both are viable

[sick sentinel]

🔥

[winged turret]

sir

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LQKJbYPRB1XHGdwZ/#fight=last

[pallid quiver]

you can even hit vex into tree, too

[winged turret]

This is worse than my Temple right

[strong forum]

Yeah vex into tree is also viable

AA isnt set in stone, as the only dungeon in the game

[sick sentinel]

so, u tree lust, vex, bird lust?

or i mean, i think its a short ish timer, so final really

[pallid quiver]

"as the only dungeon in the game"

I like the implication that everything else this season isn't even a dungeon

[sick sentinel]

old TJS was flexible just saying

[mortal brook]

certainly looks like you could have shield slammed like 50% more than you did yes

[sick sentinel]

you could go either book or water boss and that affected (effected?) the route very minorly

[winged turret]

Jesus I didn't even look at that

[sick sentinel]

but, the water boss was the wall for everyone, so it became common place to run water first

so, here we are...

[warm plinth]

You would go water first no matter what because it takes longer to run back through Lorewalker area than Mari area

[winged turret]

I'm gonna be honest, that entire dungeon started as a clusterfuck. I mean look at the deaths. I feel like I started panicking immediately and it completely threw me off. Again, probably a confidence thing

[grand locust]

are people triple pulling first pull in HOV this week?

i was thinking of lusting it

[turbid shuttle]

I am. gets scary at end though.

[errant brook]

CoughsinBolstering

[turbid shuttle]

always with lust on fort

[warm plinth]

I mean, I've seen worse

[sick sentinel]

you can safely triple pull in premades (3/5 or more with voice comms)

[turbid shuttle]

dunno. I did it in pug. just mark the 2 casters and tell your 2 melee which to sit

let others free kick

[pallid quiver]

i don't trust the pugs i run with to listen to even skulls or anything so

[sick sentinel]

i don't trust pugs for jack shit

[errant brook]

Skull = Last to Die in everything I've ever run.

[oak echo]

the kicks aren't the reason you avoid it this week tho

[sick sentinel]

i only trust that pugs are vaugely on my side

[warm plinth]

Doesn't mean you shouldn't try 🤷

[fallen pulsar]

If people dont focus their dps on the dragon he gets realllll big

[sick sentinel]

and want to complete the content at hand

[warm plinth]

Yeah, you avoid it this week because an 8 bolstered dragon will fuck up your world

[pallid quiver]

With more than a few pugs, around the time I play, even suggesting the triple pull gets them to go "key's ded"

[warm plinth]

I didn't mean the triple pull

I meant marking shit

[pallid quiver]

oh

yeah i still do

just so i can get sad everytime

[sick sentinel]

i always double pull start of HOV no matter what though

2 + 3

[pallid quiver]

even when i say in text what to do with them

[sick sentinel]

i will never not double pull that now

[fallen pulsar]

I’ve tried running the triple pull twice and what gets me killed isnt the mobs, it’s the team not clearing thundering so I get stunned and bopped lol

Literally happened both times

[pallid quiver]

Also, bold of you to assume the DPS would live long enough to get the dragon bolstered that high

[fallen pulsar]

I wanted to face desk

[sick sentinel]

you have to be a bit more bearish in pugs

[warm plinth]

@mortal brook he said bearish

[winged turret]

But it could be better

[warm plinth]

Sure but that's true of all of us

[sick sentinel]

defensive slow to react, cautious, that type of thing

[errant brook]

Don't say Bear. It still hurts.

[pallid quiver]

Thundering is my job to clear because the party will never do it of their own volition, so I have to take my survival into my own hands

[winged turret]

I'm exceptionally hard on myself because I talk a lot of shit about people that suck, so I don't take kindly to doing a bad job myself

[mortal brook]

bearish is a different guy

[grand locust]

ive gotten way tool lazy with thundering since the change. wiped on AV a few days ago bc i just ignored it and dps/healer didnt clear

2nd boss

[fallen pulsar]

Its just sad that even post hotfix they can’t just walk into eachother

[sick sentinel]

what im talking about is like bearish and bullish in the stock market

bullish meaning to rush in head long wow that alot of words

bearish to be a bit more knowledgable and cautious

[mortal brook]

A bullish person acts with a belief that prices will rise, whereas bearish investors act with the belief prices will fall.

[sick sentinel]

im trying to equate it to wow some how

[pallid quiver]

Thundering's a wack affix; DPS would rather lose DPS by running away and not casting than having someone clear their thundering on average

I really don't like this affix

[sick sentinel]

because some groups cant handle the bull, mess with the bull get the horns right

[pallid quiver]

It's incentivizing people to engage in dangerous behavior too much I feel

[outer sun]

Hey i saw a really cool WA and idk where to get it but it shows thats your spell reflecting in party chat so pugs dont waste your spell reflect anyone have it?

[winged turret]

added an ignore pain tracker

realizing I can just snip the parts out of Afenar's weakaura that I want and get rid of the ones I don't was a god send

I'm bad and can't play without my bars visible so I'm trying to basically just recentralize the important stuff to the middle of my screen so I glance less

[uneven mason]

The cause of 99% of wipes - "eyes not on feet"

[heady jetty]

at what m+ do you start going defstance? only as a cd still?

[uneven mason]

only as CD

Theres no real set breakpoint where DStance becomes the thing, you're either invunerable to the blockable damage and use it to deal with mechanics or the group can't put out enough DPS to time the key

[winged turret]

finally hit 1700 rating and was able to get my shield to 408

[charred valve]

Frostfire belt or lariat to 418 first?

[strong forum]

"watch feet"

My favourite call-out as raidleader

And when frontals happen I call it "brontale"

[slim dove]

3 pack with lust in HOV is the litmus test for ur group in hov

if you wipe, it wasn't meant to be anyways.

[oak echo]

i use this
https://wago.io/JCCNSCll7
nobody cares and kicks anyways

[strong forum]

And when a dance happens I called it "be of movings"

[rose sonnet]

How can other people waste your spell reflect? do you mean by interupting the spell or is there another way

[uneven mason]

That 100%

[winged turret]

When the tornadoes move on Dathea I say watch for the schwoopies

[uneven mason]

Anytime I needed Stampeding Roar We'd call "Katy Perry"

[odd tree]

Ours is "Do the roar"
And then half the guild says: "I love you daddy"

[bold olive]

WWYD? Anyone wanna weigh in?

[pallid quiver]

listen to robot

[warm plinth]

what is all-flame. All-totem?

[vivid kraken]

whats meta embelishments? lariat and fang?

[warm plinth]

lariat and belt generally

for raid rings

[bold olive]

Yeah @warm plinth Sorry.

[warm plinth]

I would use hoof/all-totem

[bold olive]

👍

[vivid kraken]

so for m+ lariat and belt?

[warm plinth]

yeah

Make sure you're making shield/weapon over embellishments though

They are far more important

[vivid kraken]

yeah im making longsword now, just wondering if i needed the emblishment

[pallid quiver]

just simply get a 421 wep and shield out of vault

i'm still working on that second one myself boss

[warm plinth]

Nope, you can if you want but definitely don't need it

and if you're gonna make lariat/belt anyway it'll save you the recraft if you don't add it

[vivid kraken]

i already have lariat - not sure i wanna do the farming for the elemtal things

[warm plinth]

the infusions?

[strong forum]

The best part of raiding

[vivid kraken]

fiery and frosty thing

[strong forum]

Talking shit

[winged turret]

Is frostfire belt worth losing 6 ilvl? I must've somehow missed that it was that good

[mortal brook]

only if you have raid rings that need fire dam

otherwise its as mid as any embellish

[winged turret]

Ah. I don't, so nevermind

[flint grove]

Yeah they’re all like 1% unless raid rings

You vibing

[lusty narwhal]

Hey so anyone know how haunting shaws abilities work in TJS? adoes their haunting gaze randomly target people? because i have aggro of them but a dps ends up getting 1 shot

[sick sentinel]

"step on me daddy odyn" things i may or may not have said while in HOV

[delicate geode]

anyone had any luck with extra sparks dropping

[toxic pewter]

I got 1 to drop off a rare mob

But apparently after that the drop rate is very low

[sick sentinel]

blizzard gives us a whole bunch of sparks, 1 day later, "where spark?"

[lavish oracle]

Belt was like 1.5% of my damage on terros

[warm plinth]

It will hit DPS if you're out of range and they're in front of the mob

[lusty narwhal]

oh really out of range? not los?

[warm plinth]

You can't line of sight it anyway

[sick sentinel]

i got not 1 , but 2 of those 100k gold alchemy pockets

[warm plinth]

It ignores LoS

[sick sentinel]

sold them for stonks

poor again

such is yogi way

[lusty narwhal]

interesing so its range base

[toxic pewter]

Nice I remember I bought mine for 60k so I’m happy with that purchase at the moment at least lol

[sick sentinel]

bought alot of good shit i needed though, profeession crap and crafts

[lavish oracle]

I bought mine and put it on a crafted shield week 1 for like 5k

[toxic pewter]

Nice

[lavish oracle]

Best investment of my life

[toxic pewter]

Once you go flavor pocket there’s no going back

[sick sentinel]

now transmog it into ogre dinner plate or similar

[lavish oracle]

Only gripe is that I lose it when I'm in fury

[warm plinth]

I put mine on a ring

[sick sentinel]

recraft another non set duh

[toxic pewter]

Ah yeah mines on my weapon so I also lose it

[pallid quiver]

i'm too poor to afford food buff pretender embel

[warm plinth]

I've only gotten two so far but I still have like 20 more toons to do weekly on

[sick sentinel]

my last free spark craft

[warm plinth]

we love rings

[sick sentinel]

.... blizard............

im not ready back to SL

[warm plinth]

You can't hearth until you solo the raid

that's the rule

[sick sentinel]

too late

[cinder nova]

How bad is the farm for Frostfire plans in AV/AA?

[sick sentinel]

is there any way to create more artisans whatevers

[cinder nova]

Artisans? 🤔

[sick sentinel]

i need 400 of them total for a smith hammer

[cinder nova]

Oh, the Mettle. Yeah, I think some quests and just crafting tbh.

[warm plinth]

the mettle is gained from acquiring knowledge

[warm plinth]

YOu can also get like 80 for free from the guy by the herbalism trainer (though I don't know the requirement for getting that) every week

[sick sentinel]

is there a way to force out the remaining amount id need

i did the regular solo WQ weekly for proff

[odd tree]

Honestly the best part about doing m+ with friends as well

[distant crystal]

Nome's HOV vidya is making the rounds on all my discords lol

[cinder nova]

HOV vid? 🤔

[distant crystal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2-IBr44FYA

[cinder nova]

kekw

[sick sentinel]

i read that as stonks do a +20 hov

[cinder nova]

Is it timeable?

[distant crystal]

yup

[sick sentinel]

5 prot warrior key +25 hov all with valarjar trinket

[distant crystal]

if i'm being honest 5 melee kicks + 2x avenger's shields

is kinda OP

kick errthang

[sick sentinel]

that and dk grabby arms

shit is busted and i will complain about it forever

[odd tree]

I run with an unholy dk, I will never complain about it

[sick sentinel]

all dk really

its just so stupdiy handy as prot

some archer fucker sitting in sanguine, not any more hes not

wont come around corner and guna aggro more shit

not any more

[onyx wolf]

quick question, is it worth to equip seal of filial duty (fire dmg absorb ring) on normal + frostfire belt instead of allies wristguards of companionship?

[strong forum]

Kek

Ye I've noticed that it's getting traction

[wraith prism]

How do you check unblocked attacks in warcraftlogs?

[warm plinth]

Click your toon, damage taken>hover over the number in the hits colum next to melee

column*

[strong forum]

Defensively, hard to tell

[onyx wolf]

yeah, thought so

[spice orbit]

I am depressed https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JGgrcZV97danPXyp/#fight=last&type=damage-done

[warm plinth]

why

is this one of those weird flex things

[strong forum]

I mean he almost beat his dps

So I get that part

[sick sentinel]

i might legitimiately have 30 on valdraken next week

half way into 28

[strong forum]

I'm still at 22

Rest is 11/12

[spice orbit]

because I average around 35k dps because I'm a scrub

[sick sentinel]

and i still have to do todays WQ

[warm plinth]

Oh so it's not you

That makes more sense

[spice orbit]

I don't gethow you can revenge spam that much o.o

[warm plinth]

what the fuck is this guy's talent build though

[sick sentinel]

WTB potion of 1 hour CD and it restores you to 3 flying dragon bubbles if you used them up in less than 30 seconds and now on ground again

[warm plinth]

I'm mocking his talent build; I wasn't asking what it was 😂

but thank you

[warm plinth]

You cast Revenge that much by only pressing Ignore Pain 4 times a minute

[lofty widget]

3 rend casts

[warm plinth]

what's funny is that he could've done more damage if he'd just used Demo Shout.

[strong forum]

Full pad, 2x BB, no impenetrable wall, barbaric training

No shockwave + uproar for dragon roar

[warm plinth]

Yeah he literally set out to just do as much damage as possible

[strong forum]

Which is fine

[sick sentinel]

is the turn in the 20 fish for 100 rep for tuskarr a weekly or biweekly thing

[mossy mortar]

weekly

[proud dock]

is there a good place to get routes for this week?

[errant brook]

Is it worth crafting the sword if I have an upgraded Spellbane Cutlass from AA?

Crafting the belt right now.

Thinking about the shield.

[slow harbor]

theres no fix for the alethgar academy bird bug is there?

[south zealot]

lol i ran a build like this in a 16

me a healer and my monk were doing keys and he wanted to try windwalker so i went full dps as prot warrior

didnt even take indomitable

[dull harness]

Hello guys is Pawn reliable regardin upgrades ? deciding one of two rings. one has haste and crit and according to pawn is a 43% upgrade but the vers and mastery is a 73% upgrade... Thought haste trumped the other stats ?

[rough egret]

Pawn bad

[cinder nova]

Ignore Pawn.

Just sim.

[rough egret]

Use raidbots

To sim

Haste wins btw

[cinder nova]

Using SimC is better, technically, but it's far less user-friendly than raidbots.

[distant crystal]

👀

[rough egret]

Why its better?

[cinder nova]

It also depends on the ilvl of the two rings. A haste-crit ring at 400 is gonna get stomped by one at 418 probably

[oak echo]

simc is the addon and raidbots is the site though? or what do you mean one is better

[cinder nova]

Because you have much finer control over your sim and can input custom variables like different items much easier.

[distant crystal]

simc is the simulator behind raidbots

simc addon is just a tool for both

[cinder nova]

It is, but using the program > raidbots

But you have to know how to use the program.

It's like the difference between TukUi and ElvUi

[distant crystal]

raidbots does everything you need fine

[cinder nova]

That depends on what you need.

[distant crystal]

unless you're trying to write TC content and need to get in the dirt

[cinder nova]

You really don't need to be a theorycrafter to want to use the program.

[urban portal]

Raidbots is just simc online

They are literally the same thing

[cinder nova]

My guy look up.

[urban portal]

You can do anything you can in the local build on raidbots

[cinder nova]

Not nearly as easily.

[urban portal]

Advance sim is exactly the same as the simc interface

Not to mention it’s faster

[cinder nova]

You're also in a queue.

[dull harness]

both have the same ilvl, i have tried raid bots sim but ngl everytime i get confused...

[urban portal]

Cuz you are using cloud computing instead of local

The queue is negligible as long as you pay 3 dollars a month

[cinder nova]

There are guides using raidbots, it's less confusing than most people imagine. The SimC addon creates an entire custom profile you just copy/paste into whatever raidbots sim page you want to run and then it pops up with a easily understood interfaces.

For example, you can use it to sim vault items and it lets you pick all the items you have in your bag, vault, and equipped to see what comes off best.

[cinder nova]

Opportunity-cost, imo. Even though it'll probably be cents per sim based on how much you need to run, it can still be zero. I don't care much to pay for a service I can get for free by just simming things on my own.

[urban portal]

If you are a noob you’ll probably use raidbots

If you are advanced to the point you probably also need the cloud computing

[cinder nova]

Yeah I already said that.

[urban portal]

The stuff I do takes too long on a local computer

So I also use raidbots

[cinder nova]

How long are your sims taking locally? 🤔

[distant crystal]

i haven't used the local one in a minute does it have the raidbots features in it

[urban portal]

When you run hundreds of profile it’s much faster on raidbots

Local one does not

[distant crystal]

like topgear/droptimizer

[cinder nova]

Those are the advents of user-friendliness of raidbots.

[urban portal]

Dungeon slice on local build can take 3-4 minutes

[distant crystal]

i mean that's gonna depend on your hardware

[cinder nova]

Before I started running it locally I would be waiting about that long anyway.

[urban portal]

Especially when you are doing custom variants of dungeon slice

[distant crystal]

the only upside i could see for local is if you're trying to run huge iterations

[cinder nova]

Sometimes longer during peak.

[distant crystal]

you can like let your machine run it over night but raidbots would just say no

[cinder nova]

I doubt you'll ever need that many iterations.

Well... non theorycrafters might not.

[distant crystal]

it'd only be for niche mass comparison silly stuff

not for working on your own charater

[cinder nova]

I could see that.

[distant crystal]

i simmed on the app when that was the only option

ages ago

haven't seen the need anymore, though if i could just have a personal raidbots that uses my hardware i wouldn't hate it

[cinder nova]

I maintain that using local SimC is going to be better than raidbots if you know how to use it properly, and I suppose if you have the hardware to make it worth your time.

Most users do not know how, and do not need to know, which is nothing I haven't already said already. Raidbots is probably better for the overwhelming majority of players that even bother simming, which is probably less than I'd like to think.

[urban portal]

There is no better, raidbots is literally simc on the cloud, saying simc is better than raidbots is like saying your windows calculator is better than the google one

[distant crystal]

without topgear/droptimizer it's strictly worse imo

[cinder nova]

You're gonna have stronger modality and you're not stuck in a queue without paying $. I'd call that better in my book. If you're using Advanced you're already aware of how to use the local tool and you're just running it through their site instead of on your machine.

If you're not paying money, it might be less time if you're running it off-peak, but it might be more if it's on.

But then you're just learning how to use the tool, which... time-investment.

[sand mason]

Any Elvui nerds in here? Anyone know how to conditionally hide your health bar? I wana hide it while im mounted

[cinder nova]

Maybe Nom.

He's a mutlivector sweatlord.

[urban portal]

Something as top gearing dungeon slice can take hours on local builds

And that’s not even too advanced

On raidbots even in peak hours will take you 15 minutes at most

[cinder nova]

Have they improved the accuracy of Dungeon Slice? I haven't touched it since S2 SL since it wasn't terribly accurate.

[urban portal]

Dungeon slice is a guide line

Doesn’t need to be perfect

There are also custom simc routes where you copy from mdt

But those are super inaccurate

Because of the apl discrepancy

[cinder nova]

Why use it, then? What guideline does it provide that a simple cleave boss sim wouldn't?

I'll admit I don't know anything about it, so this is news to me.

[distant crystal]

dungeon slice depends on spec

some specs just basically don't work with it and give useless results

[cinder nova]

That's what I mean. I assumed Prot was still in that camp.

[urban portal]

It doesn’t work because it requires high degree of APL optimization

It’s fine for prot

Since for us it’s send on cd

[distant crystal]

i know it's bad for a lot of casters

great for outlaw

[urban portal]

The only problem is that the sim doesn’t “hold spells” when packs are dead soon

But it’s accurate enough

[cinder nova]

Is that just a limitation that can't be developed or is it too complicated to be worthwhile

[distant crystal]

have ya'll messed with the sim based on MDT route thing

[urban portal]

Too complicated

[cinder nova]

Bwomp bwomp

[distant crystal]

some weakaura that generates a pasting that you plop in advanced sim or smth

[urban portal]

And it’ll only be relevant for a short amount of time

The standard dungeon slice set up of boss-pack-pack-boss is not bad

[distant crystal]

if you're trying to figure out how to time your 25 that's vexxing you could be nice

not a problem i run into atm kek

[urban portal]

I don’t think so because it’s not gonna tell you info you don’t know otherwise

Sure it may tell you to get more crit less haste or whatever, but that’ll be like a 1-2% dps diff

Just play better

Or get luckier

[distant crystal]

or get your 1-2% dps diff

and play better and get luckier

[urban portal]

The thing is that it may not even be accurate

Specially based on comp

Sims assume the hp of the mob falls linearly

When we know that’s not true

Which means it undervalues execute

[sick sentinel]

slowly climbing io

i'll get there,

[sterile bough]

on my 25 I forgot intervene as well and ppl just faced tanked it

doesnt deal much dmg

[safe mango]

Any recommendations on tips on how to improve as a new tank?

[crimson furnace]

run, leave, there is still time for u to play DPS

dont go down this path...

[sick sentinel]

???

prob evasion or something

[safe mango]

Lol I committed to trying to be our groups tank for this season. Just keen on getting better

[crimson furnace]

...welcome!!!

[safe mango]

Big mental shift from playing rogue most over a decade and warrior dps through SL.
Just looking for tips from more experienced tanks on what the found valuable to practice and how

[woeful sphinx]

How to train your ruby whelp shell for best effectiveness?

[willow pike]

i think you go for single target, but also heard in critcake stream "dont get baited with that trnket, its aboive average but not bis" or smth like that a few days ago

[primal jetty]

prob toss it in for a fight or two, see how it performed vs your previous trinket, and see from there

[sterile bough]

boomking and preist

[ember cradle]

what gems do we put in lariat

[sick sentinel]

boomkin can be a gamble

[errant brook]

Fierce Illimated and Energized Malygite.

[keen lark]

hey so im pretty new to tanking and in m+ im letting melee dps die because theyre taking aggro and i cant tell because the mobs dont run out of the pack. is there a good way to tell if youre about to lose aggro or even see who your current target is attacking. sorry if this is all really easy the new ui options arent named great for me

[vestal torrent]

download a nameplate addon like platr and use a custom profile

[keen lark]

without using addons?

[vestal torrent]

are you some sort of addon purist or

Because they are very helpful especially for tanking if you're starting out

[keen lark]

i use details and the map co ordinate thing but i strongly prefer not to if possible

[vestal torrent]

lmao

aight dude

[ember cradle]

I would give plater a try, it honestly adds more clarity

[vestal torrent]

enjoy that

but when you come to your senses here is the plater profile i like

https://quazii.com/shadowlands-plater-nameplates-profile/

[keen lark]

so the game itself just fully has no way to do this other than the tiny window in the bottom right corner that say whatever% threat on mouseover an enemy?

[fast widget]

Never played in legion, and never bothered in SL, but any tips for the Mage Tower?

[pallid quiver]

avoid getting knocked off the platform, don't stand in the decay aura for too long, reflect twisted reflection or whatever it's called in P2

oh, don't let life drain go off in P1

[north dew]

Is alchemy stone good for prot warrior on 418?

[pallid quiver]

Interrupt/Stun to prevent

[tepid raptor]

What is stat prior?

or just sim?

[urban portal]

Sim>>str>haste>rest

[sick sentinel]

do i have to pull small in first part of RLP now due to bolster

i tried that key but it was a disaster

[fast widget]

Cool, will check it out 🙂

[errant brook]

I'm only doing 15/16s so far (new toon), but I'm pulling small in there. Lotsa reasons.

[deep spruce]

No, not compared to some of the trinkets available

[errant brook]

I'd love to see a 13-bolstered Whelp, though. Mini-nyxia.

[glacial sky]

No, no real customization with name plates in the base game, they weren’t really updated on the big rework either. I don’t really enjoy maintaining addons either but plater is right up there with meters as a “necessary because the base game doesn’t provide this feedback” for me

[north dew]

i have no acces to the raid trinkets

[slim dove]

can still do ele alone then first 3

its sketch and if a single bolstered slam gets off its a wipe

[warm plinth]

There's a very lightweight addon called Blizzard Nameplates - Threat that adds the threat colors to the defaul tnameplates.

Probably the best you're gonna do

@keen lark I'm assuming you have this checked already and it's not good enough?

[lusty tiger]

This game without weakauras and a few addons is literal dogshit

The base ui is lacking fundamental data required for the average human to play a spec correctly

[warm plinth]

yeah idk. I appreciate that they're generally very open about addons though. They could be like FFXIV and just not allow them at all.

[spice sorrel]

Whats a good % versa to be at

[pallid quiver]

any

[lusty tiger]

0

[pallid quiver]

Having any amount of stats, regardless of what stats they are, is more important

Particularly ilvl

If it's equal ilvl, just sim it

[spice sorrel]

Thanks

[ashen vigil]

cap for haste ?

[warm plinth]

40% before things like ItF/other % buffs

[sick sentinel]

i'll attempt another rlp io key or some key

its tiny gains

gained all of, 19 points today

[empty spindle]

what trinkets are you guys running

[toxic pewter]

just realized they lowered cooldown for engineering wymrhole to 30 min (15 min with the 50% cd reduction) super nice quality of life

[empty spindle]

im running icon and torch kinda want wall of flames

[toxic pewter]

Running mythic decoration of flame and heroic all-totem

[empty spindle]

prot is my offspec so

been a little delayed to get it

[toxic pewter]

have you run mythic eranog this week yet

could be good chance to snag one

[empty spindle]

i dare say the next one that drops on our relcear will be mine

hopefully

👀

would you run torch and icon together preferbly?

torch for more dmg?

[strong forum]

Icon only if your group also has it

Otherwise icon isn't that good

Torch is super solid, need to keep in mind that you can't block during its channel

[pallid quiver]

something something healer issue

[empty spindle]

yeah learn that last night on the AV breakers bolstered by 5 😂

[warm plinth]

what do you mean by "that good"? Who said it was good?

[sick sentinel]

first 14

i told odyn to step on me and boy did he ever deliver

[fading tide]

how hard is 18 jade?

[sick sentinel]

Are we talking about the same thing because there is no chance a boomkin can face tank the fixate

priest with dispersion can believe that

[spark cedar]

Any tips for picking up dungeon routes faster or addons that help track it during a run?

[sterile bough]

mdt or memory

[sick sentinel]

MDT is as good as you'll get prob

[spark cedar]

But difficult to pull it up during a run tho so memory it is

[reef holly]

u get ksm yet?

[sick sentinel]

1830

[sterile bough]

how do i know what they pressed kek

[sick sentinel]

yogi is bearish

slower to move

yea but on a 25?

[sterile bough]

ye also suprised me

[sick sentinel]

i dont think boomkin has that kinda DR in entire kit

[sterile bough]

tought they would get one shot

[sick sentinel]

they usually do

ive still got a COS 13 in my bags

i had someone die from it just because I intervened half a sec too early

and that was like a 22 last week

[sterile bough]

so around 25 this week

[sick sentinel]

yea

i dont think boomkin can tank it regularly

prob some weird stuff

[warm plinth]

what was the group comp?

[sick sentinel]

that cos key im holding would put me around +80 if i timed, so why blow load on that early

[reef holly]

Just do it

[sick sentinel]

tomorrow cos

[paper herald]

How puggable is a 22? Wanna try my first 22 CoS and it's getting to the level that pugging it seems like a struggle.

[south plume]

Is the Grieftorch a bait for prot war in m+ ?

[odd nimbus]

i think it is,but between wetstone/puzzelbox/rumbling ruby/idol of trampling/blazing hoof i dont know which one should i use

i have 25 percent haste i think i should equip blazing hoof???

[warm plinth]

Are they all the same item level?

[odd nimbus]

kinda yes,they are all in the same 5 ilvl

[warm plinth]

I'd run trampling and whetstone personally

[odd nimbus]

for M+?

[warm plinth]

yes

[odd nimbus]

low haste dosnt hurt?

my haste without into the fray buff is 25 percent

[warm plinth]

No, as long as you're talented properly then your haste shouldn't really matter.

Yeah that's more than fine

[odd nimbus]

humm,do you talent into the fray all the time?

[warm plinth]

No

I talent into Heavy Repercussions

Because you need like 35% haste before ItF for ItF to be safe in dungeons

[odd nimbus]

oww

i find playing without itf pretty annoying.sometimes i have to wait for spells

i run itf and barbaric training

[round pendant]

man I hate primal council

[odd nimbus]

guess have to talent out of both of em yeah?

[warm plinth]

That sounds terrible

[round pendant]

swapping is so awkward when there's 4 mobs and I have to find the one I want

any advice for this?

[odd nimbus]

you can make macro or just take a focus off of stone guy

[odd nimbus]

elaborate please

[round pendant]

what

I guess I could make macros

[odd nimbus]

the stone boy,make a focus target of him so 50% of the job is done
or make two macros /target opelfang /cast taunt

something like that

[sick sentinel]

got 42 points today for 1842

wont be long now

[round pendant]

I focus the other tank

[sick sentinel]

bolster is a really free mechanic if you just kill the mechanics guy first

[odd nimbus]

get the co tank weak aura

[odd nimbus]

https://wago.io/dfcotank1/6

[odd nimbus]

please explain moreee

[fervent mauve]

Playing my port warrior as an alt. not raiding on it. Debating is the Idol trinket worth it / any good ?

[sick sentinel]

if its me im keeping it

[warm plinth]

i'm in a key atm

[mortal brook]

Use disenchant 👍

[sick sentinel]

i say they should put halls of attonement back in

that place is just so much fun

[odd nimbus]

commoon mate

[mortal brook]

You got duplicates D:

Shard em

[sick sentinel]

if i get a better ilvl version of the same item

i vendor the old one

unless its valor like itemt hat i can upgrade to a usable ilvl

like, it has a socket, or speed or leech on it

[dawn jasper]

At what m+ key level should I swap from Tough as Nails to SB?
I mostly pug so its hard to tell if I'm the problem or the group is the problem some times 😅

[sick sentinel]

that being said, generally speaking, i keep all trinkets i get, but i don't always either

many many many times in keys i run, i get gear, i give it away if its not something i want

[deep spruce]

It's not dependent on key level, it's dependent on the key

Spell block is super useful in a few dungeons, but not in them all, regardless of key level

[dawn jasper]

So when do you use it? I imagine RLP and..? 🙏

[warm plinth]

Barbaric Training is trash and is probably why you think you have nothing to press

[sick sentinel]

there is lots of trash spells that can be blocked

[deep spruce]

@shut summit watched your dathea kill video a few times as we started it this week, any chance u could share the weak auras you used there? The list of players with debuff and the teleprompter specifically?

[deep spruce]

TJS, AV

[dawn jasper]

Thanks heaps guys ❤❤❤

[sick sentinel]

I

my IO so far now

[deep spruce]

Yes there is of course times it can be used, but nothing really scary

[mortal brook]

Bruh, do a cos

[deep spruce]

Cos easiest key

[sick sentinel]

potentially scary on these weeks

[deep spruce]

Wtf

Also maybe branch out a bit bro and try something harder

What's the worst that can happen

You're like one of the most active people in this whole discord, surely you've picked up more tips from people to do higher than a 14

[warm plinth]

CoS is scary on exactly 0 weeks

[sick sentinel]

my plan is to get as many of those as i can to + 13 / 14 completed by monday/tuesday

if i could do ksm without having to do cos..........

life could be dream

[deep spruce]

I don't get it, at all

[warm plinth]

what in the world is scary about CoS

Name 1 thing

[sick sentinel]

i'll watch a video of what im supposed to do there again

[deep spruce]

When you're doin a 14++, u should really be in 16s

[deep spruce]

What exactly do u struggle with, off the top of your head?

[sick sentinel]

dps meter says i pulled 39.3k dps in that 13 AA i just ran

not being able to log on for 4 hours

no, really though, im not, sure, its the trash at the boss 2 and then you gotta find a guy and that takes a bunch of time if everyones stuipid

[deep spruce]

Take a dh

Problem solved

[sick sentinel]

then you got a mini boss and then a wall bosss, this is way i understnad it

[deep spruce]

A wall boss?

[sick sentinel]

but, just, yeah i hate the trash around the 2nd boss and then everything past that point

[deep spruce]

U need to watch some guides, cos ur missing out on the best loot and easiest keys

Whetstone and ring are yuge

[odd nimbus]

so with 25 percent haste your suggestion is to talent out of barbaric and itf?

about trinket idol and wetstone?

[sick sentinel]

\

[warm plinth]

Yes that's my suggestion

[sick sentinel]

doubled the healer heaing

[slim dove]

barb training is a trap. it leads to less overall damage.

[odd nimbus]

when do you talent out of into the fray?

[warm plinth]

It's more like when do you talent INTO ItF

Which is in raid where you're not tanking 100% of the time, and in keys once you have enough haste that it won't impact Shield Block uptime

which is around 35%

[odd nimbus]

shield charge with bulward doesnt solve that problem?

[warm plinth]

No

[void marten]

finally got the second one

[slim dove]

listen to ghash.

[odd nimbus]

yy

[slim dove]

im not gonna repeat what he said lol

[warm plinth]

Or don't listen to me

I really don't care 😄

[fallen pulsar]

Does haste increase the speed we get back shield block? Never understood how haste improves shield block uptime

[odd nimbus]

nah mate i just wanted to know the reasoning,i dont find a source to read these in that's why im asking

[warm plinth]

yes

the CD is hasted

[fallen pulsar]

Oh snap, good to know

So we want to be 35% pre howling rune/food? Or with it is fine

[slim dove]

35% pre itf

[fallen pulsar]

Roger roger

[sick sentinel]

how is it that titanic throw is worse than side arm, SA only mentions auto attacks triggering it and at 20% so every 5 swings x 2.60 weapon speed, 13 seconds between each SA

[dusky mica]

because heroic throw does no damage

[round pendant]

What can I respec for disrupting shout for dathea hc?

🤔

[dusky mica]

you mean remove?

[round pendant]

yes

[dusky mica]

stormbolt?

[round pendant]

wrong tree

[sick sentinel]

class vs spec tree

[dusky mica]

crushing blow thing

yeah sorry

post talent string so we can put it into wowhead

show of force you dont really need

bloodsurge and instigate not really essential either

thunderlord kinda useless in raid, mostly

Still a shame that shockwave is at the bottom of the class tree.

[lusty narwhal]

I got an extra spark today, are tinker bracers worth it or do i go double 2nd stat bracer?

[mighty valley]

probably show of force

[warm plinth]

not worth imo. especially as a tank

[lusty narwhal]

@warm plinth so go double stat?

[warm plinth]

yeah

[high trail]

our best race is dwarf, right? not dark iron dwarf

[fallen pulsar]

is there a rough estimate of how many targets are needed for bloodsurge to be better than instigate? or is it just better as soon as you're in consistent multitarget

like 3+ targets

[scenic mural]

either or, dwarf gets crit dmg but dark iron gets main stat on their cleanse

[high trail]

ty ty

[balmy pawn]

If you intend to run a Ruby Whelp Shell on Prot, is it better to train it for single target or aoe? Or is that content dependent?

[tulip kelp]

For raid or m+?

Honestly the whelp is pretty mid

[balmy pawn]

So all the hype about it keeping pace with grieftorch was, in fact, just hype? I am currently on Whispering Incarnate Iron (395) and Decoration of Flame (402). I have both a Bladebinder's Hoof and a Whelp Shell I could upgrade.

[amber siren]

It was a very loose interpretation of a single log where it procced many times due to it's high variance in PPM

It's not a bad trinket, it's just not amazing, very overhyped

You'd be either training it for ST or haste, unsure about good the crit one is

[balmy pawn]

ST for raid, haste for M+?

[amber siren]

Not for specific content, just whatever is simming higher

[last mason]

if u guys had a 402 belt but it was haste crit socket avoidance

would u craft a belt or legs to replace 418 legs instead

logic is belt is pretty good so could just upgrade it

[versed delta]

Is like Azureblade too difficult? Why do all the pug dps keep eating avoidable damage

[arctic marten]

It's a difficult fight with many mechanics

[worldly wing]

what what point do you want to stop trying to stack haste? im at 26% atm

[lofty widget]

40% before buffs like ITF

[low acorn]

[weary verge]

Yall running ST Whelp setup for M+?

[shell mortar]

Yep

[odd nimbus]

why?is it good?

[shell mortar]

Sims the best for me

And performs well in real scenarios too

[heady gyro]

Sims the best on 1 target?

[south zealot]

@strong forum this guy is citing your video as proof brewmaster is the worst tank 😂

thought it was pretty funny

[naive trellis]

Is 80% uptime on SB in M+ a good starting point or is it too low? Just pumped a +13 RLP at 379ilvl with 20% haste. Not sure if i should be aiming for higher? IP was about 60%

[trim bay]

Up time dont matter

Blocked hits does. You can check in logs.

But I can only assume if you had it up for 80 percent of the key it's average. Can easily get 95percenf from doing nothing

[zinc monolith]

is the rumbling ruby any good for trinkets... i got heroic version tonight and not sure if i should use.

[naive trellis]

Would i find it in details by chance or do I actually have to set up logs for myself? Not something I've ever done

[lime urchin]

No you need to log

[random hare]

is execute a button we use very often in higher m+? just starting out on prot pwarrior again and trying to manage keybinds

[toxic pewter]

Definitely want to bind execute ya

Basically bind everything except slam, whirlwind, and rend

[grave orchid]

hi! new to protection warrrior. If i am focusing for mythic+, which embleishment is recommended?

lartiat / unstable frostfire belt / armor spikes / potion

etc

[sand mason]

lariat for sure

Get the raid rings and the frost fire.

Frostfire does 1% damage, so does armor spikes, only down side is that belt doesnt have BiS stats, but upside is you get more damage from the rings once you get them

[grave orchid]

so short term lariat/armor spikes, long term lariat frostfire correct?

is armor spikes/frostfire not a choice?

[lofty widget]

sure it is

all the embellishments are more or less equal so it doesnt matter much which you pick

[grave orchid]

sorry i meant to mean, do ppl go spikes/frostfire or is it most of the time lariat+ another one of thoes two

[amber siren]

It’s whatever, only one you want to craft is the belt if you have the fire ring

Lariat isn’t important for us like it is for dps

[lone eagle]

Anyone have the clip of the demon hunter hunting out of the gate in a SBG and dying instantly?

Trying to find it for a convo

[lofty widget]

https://imgur.com/hYeI19O

[lone eagle]

tyty

[blazing condor]

smartest dps player

[toxic vortex]

afenar weakaura good to use or nah?

[astral harbor]

Hey guys, what do you think its better craft to me here ?

https://worldofwarcraft.com/pt-br/character/us/azralon/zenpan

Shield and Helm

Helm and bootts

[rough egret]

Shield

And then boots

[shell mortar]

On 1, 5 and dungeon slice (though a bit irrelevant)

Side note, my other trinkets are pretty dog

[slender terrace]

is 402>418 shield going to be a significant mitigation increase?

vs. just getting 418 weapon for dps

[shell mortar]

Another side note I have very high haste and crit

[amber siren]

Absolutely, there's a formula I don't remember off the top of my head but it's significant

[shell mortar]

Well what's the weapon ilvl increase?

[slender terrace]

405》418、

[shell mortar]

Ah, then pick either, depending on whether you like damage or survivability more

[amber siren]

Shield is without a doubt the most important slot, the only reason not to choose it is if you're expecting to get one from mythic

[uncut notch]

Anyone done the mage tower?

Keep getting oneshot by the blue phantom adds

[shell mortar]

More dam more good

[finite scarab]

just had this happen again to many times dh have small brain

[toxic vortex]

afenar weakaura good to use or nah?

[blazing condor]

no idea

[pallid quiver]

The claw ones? They shouldn't one shot you at all. If they are, you stood in the aura around the boss too long; that decreases your max HP

[uncut notch]

fucking hero

I knew i must be missing something

do stacks reset? i just dip out and back in or?

[pallid quiver]

Yeah, the whole dance of the first phases is to manage to kill the Inquisitor while managing stacks

[amber siren]

[pallid quiver]

They drop after like 6 seconds

So you hit boss, then kinda clean up things that are outside while waiting for stacks to drop (Eyes, those adds)

then hit boss

And you need to keep dancing while also preventing Life Drain from ever going off

Which is easy enough between Pummel and Storm Bolt

[uncut notch]

made it much further knowing about the debuff lmao

idk how tf your supposed to dps the boss tho

how many stacks should i risk? feels like i pick up 2 just charging in

[lofty widget]

i went to around 6-7 when i did it

[pallid quiver]

Safe bet is around 6; you're not really under that much pressure, so you can take your time

The only thing that happens of note the longer you take is that more infernals pop up, making you more likely to get yeeted

[toxic vortex]

what wpn should i craft for sparks ? as prot warr, or should i craft shield?

[pallid quiver]

You're effectively invincible outside of being one-shot P2 if you reflect the spell properly, so don't feel too panicked in blasting him ASAP

[pallid quiver]

Any non-embel weapon and the shield, if possible

Shield is more important up front, though, because it's the only source of block value, which is the main contributor to your tankiness

Shield and wep are the two slots that benefit the most from ilvl due to providing stats that don't come from any other piece of gear (Block value and weapon damage stats)

So if you can make both, it's preferable

[astral harbor]

whats best embelishment to put on boots ?

without the Alchemy one

and Spikes that i will put on shield

[grave orchid]

stupid question, the frost fire belt says it does frostfire damage. that counts as fire right (proccing rings)

[amber siren]

Yep it counts as fire damage (also definitely not a stupid question)

[astral harbor]

maybe the one that shots healing darts ?

[sick sentinel]

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[urban portal]

Lol 70k hp

Dead to next auto

[mental scarab]

Lul

[modest wind]

day [phone] of our 2p having a typo.

[toxic vortex]

what does "non-embel" weapon mean?

[modest wind]

you don't put embellishment on it

so it doesn't fuck up your slots

since you can only have 2 embellished item at once

( so like obsidian seared claymore )

[toxic vortex]

i can use obsidian claymore?

as prot

[modest wind]

no, it was an example

idk what're the names for 1h'd weapons

[toxic vortex]

ooh

hexsword or longsword would be fine?

or

[harsh spruce]

What embellishments are you using

[toxic vortex]

idk

[unreal sage]

Lariant and fire dmg belt seems decent

[pliant monolith]

hello guys, i only have "one piece" of tier set so i don't know what to think but i see everywhere that tier set don't change our rotation but when i look at logs like this one on AA 20 this week, the 1st is this dude that is just literally Smashing his revenge keybind, can someone tell me something about it thanks.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JGgrcZV97danPXyp#fight=3&type=damage-done&source=93

[unreal sage]

Point of ravage is reseting
cd on shield slam and ofc 2p

[toxic vortex]

where do i see it

[pliant monolith]

and he is 1st in damages by far

[lofty widget]

that guy is running a full pad build

[pliant monolith]

what is "full pad build" ? sorry i am french sometimes don't understand shorten words

[lofty widget]

he's only going for dmg

[pliant monolith]

it seem to work even if he died 3 times

[unreal sage]

And you guys not? Xd

[toxic vortex]

what weapon should i create for sparks ?

[pliant monolith]

spamming revenge and do that kind of damage can be worth

with 4p*

[lofty widget]

for one it's AA so your overall is higher than other dungeons

he's giving a lot of defense for like 10k more overall

also he's running barbaric training which is horrible to play with imo

[toxic vortex]

why i cant loot mobs at the ice portals?

theyre not grey or smth

[rough egret]

Is there any prereq. to drop bindings of tf?

[cold oracle]

When ppl say pad they mostly means that they sac useful stuff for just dmg that you wouldn’t want to do in real keys, for exemple not taking stun/fear and getting very small dmg upgrade talents instead

It’s fine to do so in some content just don’t full commit to it without thinking

[thin nova]

hi guys i have a problem with bird boss in academy. my problem is that at the latter stage of the fight i find myself with very little rage and no cds for savage peck

[limpid anchor]

no

[pliant monolith]

i can help you with this, did you took log of one of your run on crawth (bird boss)?

[thin nova]

yes

[pliant monolith]

let me 5-10 min i will post cds management visual of what i learned from best logs and that helped me so much that i don't even struggle a little on this boss

link please

[wintry ridge]

temple

[pliant monolith]

this is what it should look like

obviously, shield block + IP i don't have to show

i was diying even on 18 then learned this management and this is a look of a 20 timed tyranical fight

[thin nova]

ty

[pliant monolith]

there is never 2 consecutives dots you have nothing

if you have an on use defensive trinket you can add it

[dull venture]

it is normal that the prot-warrior ist falling from 3k dps to 600 dps from Wind Fury?

[tropic pond]

can anyone help me with this

i always having a problem to place the blue mob to los

even doin so up until now +19, its always frustate me that the only option is just heal through it

[severe prism]

CC left mob, pull and LoS above the stairs behind the wall

[strong forum]

Brew would rock in 5 tank cuz of mystic touch and their obscene dmg lol

[spice orbit]

I need to compare his IP buildup from 4set to my IP without set on a regular build 😄

[pallid quiver]

i don't understand how people cite evidence for things

do they like not actually engage with what they cite?

imma just go to bed instead of thinking about it

[daring light]

what phail/pots are you guys using?

for M+

[spice orbit]

what are you referring to tho?

[strong forum]

People on reddit making fun of brm because we didn't run it in our 5tank comp

[heavy temple]

How do you guys play the 3x void slash pack in higher Fort keys? Are they kite-able?

[strong forum]

Kill it

If no CD then run

[pallid bone]

cd a set , stun / fear a few sets check cd's if not enough run lol

[signal agate]

How Do i pull AA reasonably with the axes hitting for Ridiculous damage?

[heavy temple]

Is there no funny kite interaction? Like fervent strikes?

[strong forum]

Nah, fervents are mostly gone

Only some very janky stuff, very specific singular attack that I can't remember rn

[finite scarab]

how much should i be using exe?

[strong forum]

On ST, prio targets and 2 targets

[finite scarab]

stun and fear the cast

most are only single axe pulls so u can manage by ur self