prot war has such an easy time in mage tower - so much mobility to kill all the eyes and not worry so much about anything else
#protection
wild kayak
naive trellis
whats the general rule of thumb between using Dstance and Battle?
edgy spear
Bstance as default. Switch to dstance if you can't live stuff otherwise.
wild kayak
prot war get d stance?
bold turret
people doing triple pack at start of HoV in bolster week?
amber siren
Fuck no
edgy spear
people doing triple pack at start of HoV in bolster week?
Sounds like a great way to get an omega huge dragon
limpid anchor
Sounds like a great way to get an omega huge dragon
Just focus dragon
misty sail
slim dove
Did on a 21. Funnel dragon, it's fine.
strange chasm
if i may ask for fast review : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dJXjAkwLnv9fKZVz/#fight=27&type=casts&source=50
what i fuqed up expec rev usage
deep spruce
what i fuqed up expec rev usage
Only 11 thunderous roar?
jagged pier
if i may ask for fast review : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dJXjAkwLnv9f...
your over using revenge under using everything else
strange chasm
ye i know
jagged pier
your wasting a tone of rage
strange chasm
thats why i type e xp rev usage fuq up
strange chasm
nah
deep spruce
Yeah sorry bro, language barrier
viral oracle
your wasting a tone of rage
Where can I see this statistic in logs, seems interesting
strange chasm
so less rev and more cast for everything else
cinder sail
Poor lad didn't do a thing right 
jagged pier
so less rev and more cast for everything else
yes
strange chasm
ty for your time will try work on that
viral oracle
Resources tab i believe
Ok thanks, need to try to find it
Does that statistic mean that u are capping over max rage basically?
So all the rage past 100 is recorded as wasted?
hasty wraith
Are there any desired CPM you want to aim for in relation to all the main rotational spells? If you don’t consider variance on SS procs obviously
lofty widget
So all the rage past 100 is recorded as wasted?
yes
viral oracle
Is it better to waste rage still than miss GCD on SS? I suppose so
hasty wraith
Is it better to waste rage still than miss GCD on SS? I suppose so
IP is off gcd
lofty widget
that's what it's there for
viral oracle
Ok yeah, that's where that ip ss macro comes handy
subtle sparrow
Is there an addon for filtering out raids with 2 tanks and dungeons that already have a tank?
In the LFG tool
lofty widget
premade groups filter
subtle sparrow
Thanks
deep spruce
So all the rage past 100 is recorded as wasted?
ye
deep spruce
Is it better to waste rage still than miss GCD on SS? I suppose so
Macro IP and SS together to prevent that ever happening
Ah, u wrote that actually my bad
subtle sparrow
Has anyone gotten any sparks from random content? Is the drop rate low?
placid sierra
deep spruce
What are u asking, sorry?
deep spruce
Check pins
quiet minnow
Macro IP and SS together to prevent that ever happening
damn really
should check this prot section more
lofty widget
that macro replaces your IP bind btw, not your SS bind
dire sparrow
is our 4 set super strong?
whole vortex
It's 5% leech
dire sparrow
cool thanks
jagged pier
its not just 5% leech
its enable BrV to do even more
its insane in aoe
and meh in ST
uneven mason
premade groups filter
Tell me more
lofty widget
let's you sort groups
so you wont see groups with tanks, or if you pug with a dps you can set that as well
bitter ravine
that addon is dope AF btw
cunning salmon
Do you guys think we are in a good spot after the nerfs or do you think blizzard will knock us down a peg before S2?
hardy snow
Do you guys think we are in a good spot after the nerfs or do you think blizzard...
we are garbage, we must reroll to monk now
cunning salmon
Lolol
Honestly only asking cause my main is guardian but now that I finished 2600 io my alt warrior might become my main
Can’t be worse than guardian
hardy snow
just play class which you like to play most
quartz briar
IS nay haste too mich haste
bitter ravine
since there is no borrow power each class lives and dies by how good their talent trees are and they keep improving upon those
quartz briar
any*
lofty widget
IS nay haste too mich haste
40 % before any buffs
quartz briar
Nice so like 40% b4 ITF
lofty widget
yea
quartz briar
ty I hadn't been paying attn and hit 34% and was like 👀 Did I goof
uneven mason
Do you guys think we are in a good spot after the nerfs or do you think blizzard...
They'll keep nerfing us until community perception is that prot is dogshit tier
This is universally the law at blizzard, prot warriors are only allowed to be good in the last season when nothing matters
gloomy sphinx
This is universally the law at blizzard, prot warriors are only allowed to be go...
I mean…bfa?
uneven mason
Is a perfect example
gloomy sphinx
Not if being good only in the last season lmao what?
toxic gyro
Bfa? We were good entire bfa
uneven mason
Perception
plush tendon
Bfa? We were good entire bfa
S1 wants a word with you
toxic gyro
Except s1*
plush tendon
and it wasnt great in raid
uneven mason
Like we were considered shit until after battle
toxic gyro
No cares about raid lol
toxic gyro
We were good enough to clear raid
uneven mason
I mean that patch
toxic gyro
And we were meta in m+
uneven mason
We literally got 1 shot by throw stone in s1
We were no where close to meta for the first major patch
You've got some insane Rosey goggles
toxic gyro
I mostly tanked in m+, can’t speak from raiding perspective
I was 95% dps in raid
Only tanked couple fights like council, bc our dk tank was getting shit stomped by Kimbul.
Or one of the council 🤔
uneven mason
I tanked both and while we were secret strong for several things, in m+ it was incredibly challenging because bleeds and unlockable damage abounds.
Oh and IP in the GCD? Fun
toxic gyro
Whichever was hitting hard and putting bleed on you.
strong forum
Everybody hated on pwar in bfa for raid
"but magic dmg"
People lost raid spots and got kicked out of guilds because they were pwar in bfa
Like the disconnect was insane
"op in m+ but dogshit in raid" wtf kind of logic was that
gloomy sphinx
"op in m+ but dogshit in raid" wtf kind of logic was that
Logic for the brain dead
strong forum
Hence why I strongly disagree when people claimed "paid for your sins in bfa", pwar still got absolutely memed by the community for the other big pillar of the game and everybody forgets about that
brazen summit
if anyone has new talentbuild for raiding ?
strong forum
Pins
toxic gyro
Good point, as I said I didn’t know how it was in raid because I was dps. I only had perspective from m+point of view.
brazen summit
thanks
gloomy sphinx
I always laughed when people in my bfa guild wanted me to tank keys but wouldn’t let me tank raid
plush tendon
Prot War was pretty cool in EP... though I was forced to play Blood for Azshara
something about gripping adds
strong forum
I always laughed when people in my bfa guild wanted me to tank keys but wouldn’t...
I had to continously annoy my RL for like 3months and also required 3 tanks to quit before I got to show him how good pwar was
plush tendon
Meanwhile our guild was gonna double prot war... but I went blood for S4 cause I was like "wow, look at the maut wep, it must be stonks!'
I was wrong
gloomy sphinx
I had to continously annoy my RL for like 3months and also required 3 tanks to q...
Actually fuggin dumb
gloomy sphinx
Meanwhile our guild was gonna double prot war... but I went blood for S4 cause I...
But in the end…your stonks were negative
cosmic basin
Is our 4 set worth dropping if for example helm/shoulders are 398 and i can just craft them at 418?
plush tendon
Is our 4 set worth dropping if for example helm/shoulders are 398 and i can just...
depends? Raid maybe, M+ probably not
toxic gyro
Prot War was pretty cool in EP... though I was forced to play Blood for Azshara
Don’t even say that name… my guild was strict af about timings, so in p1 monkey 🙈 range dps had to use their cds bc they’re dumb and we were pushing boss to fast and had to hold dps for like 20-30sec. I remember not using my cds at all sometimes and running soaking far puddles…
plush tendon
Azshara can suck a nut
gloomy sphinx
Honestly Azshara is like top 5 my favourite final bosses
toxic gyro
Did u tank it or dps
plush tendon
it always came down to the console, and everytime we were looking at the kill pull... we forgot to do it
plush tendon
Honestly Azshara is like top 5 my favourite final bosses
you're high
gloomy sphinx
Did u tank it or dps
Tanked it
toxic gyro
Probably why. As melee dps it was one of if not the worst fight ever
plush tendon
hes gaslighting you
tanking that was a pain
and if I ever have to do that p1 again... I may lose it
gloomy sphinx
Tank on pwar with pally co tank, I wouldn’t say it was a horrible pain honestly
sick sentinel
Honestly Azshara is like top 5 my favourite final bosses
still have my ep aotc mount i never paid for
strong forum
From what I recall, most people call azshara one of the worst bosses in wow history
quiet monolith
how should i be simming myself as prot war, just for dps ?
sick sentinel
gm rl of the guold same guy probably hates me
strong forum
You can only sim for dps yes
quiet monolith
im ready to make my first big boy crafted item
and i want to make sure im doing it right
strong forum
If you don't have a 418+ shield, get a shield
quiet monolith
i have 405 shield, and figuring i just bump that up to next tier?
plush tendon
how should i be simming myself as prot war, just for dps ?
sim for damage, youll be good; general stat prio Haste>crit=vers>mastery; want a bit of each though in most cases
uneven mason
"op in m+ but dogshit in raid" wtf kind of logic was that
The reality was that we had amazing DPS in m+ and exceptional damage reduction in raid but our rage budget was so complex you had to plan 15 seconds ahead or you got destroyed
quiet monolith
what about your shield, makes it so important?
plush tendon
what about your shield, makes it so important?
it gives block
sick sentinel
40% chance for max rank like 99% for rank 4 is my experience so far
plush tendon
which is like, what we do
toxic gyro
Block and armor
strong forum
The reality was that we had amazing DPS in m+ and exceptional damage reduction i...
It's the same situation as brewmaster was in in 10.0
Its amazing in raid but nobody even wants to give it a chance!
And it's certainly good enough in keys
gloomy sphinx
From what I recall, most people call azshara one of the worst bosses in wow hist...
I get why it could be considered on if the worst, and honestly I didn’t think it was good initially, but after 100 pulls it grew on me /shrug
plush tendon
Ive been eyeing brew
toxic gyro
M+ community for pugging is terrible atm
sick sentinel
Block and armor
Block and armor up.... and then die to a dragon breathe immediately after... just pike saturday cartoons
errant leaf
brew's dmgs are cracked
plush tendon
But brew only laughs at what pwar struggles with
thats what my Blood DK does to 😦
strong forum
What's 2nd boss rlp lol?! Just CB and dodge it lmao
plush tendon
oh bleed on Crawth EZ mode
sick sentinel
bdk takes dmg, laughs in deathstrike
toxic gyro
Vast majority of the groups won’t invite you for a key unless you did same key lvl or higher and you’re meta.
strong forum
Bdk just ignores everything ye
Bdk is better in 6/8 keys than pwar
If not for spell reflect and dmg output
It would be meta
plush tendon
Blood is in a healthy spot
toxic gyro
Block and armor up.... and then die to a dragon breathe immediately after... jus...
That’s what we have dstance, reflect, demo, wall, and last stand for
plush tendon
a little more damage wouldnt hurt
sick sentinel
it has everything that pwar has but also a pet, brez and grwbby hands and anti magic sjit as well
strong forum
Well it doesn't have an aoe stun, bshout or rally
sick sentinel
i mean..... its not fair honestly
strong forum
Those are big points
strong forum
Only bad ones
plush tendon
even though they know how to track runic power
slim zinc
Yup
uneven mason
It's the same situation as brewmaster was in in 10.0
Its amazing in raid but nob...
Yeah IMO BRM was fun doing the few keys in mine
plush tendon
You say that, but you know healers are just looking at their frames
and they see this one guy going up and down and instinctively are like wtf is going on!
uneven mason
Good healers just ignore bdks
I have a wa that watches their rp
sick sentinel
i can fuckin live with my IV though as it is or even if they decide to nerf it again
slim zinc
you say that but when I heal I only try to do damage and get mad when people take damage
plush tendon
and when I was playing Prot in SL, healers loved me cause they are like 'wow.... your damage intake is so smooth... my heart attack is gone'
sick sentinel
iv 30 second deathstrike, 20 second in mythic +
cuz your constantly sniping some add reseting it
strong forum
and when I was playing Prot in SL, healers loved me cause they are like 'wow.......
And yet people went apeshit when they played with a pwar in DF
Despite us being pretty much the same defensively, apart from leech
plush tendon
And yet people went apeshit when they played with a pwar in DF
I didnt pug much, but yea, I imagine the pug world was poop
I was playing prot for my guild keys; then arms so that our Prot Paladin could tank
was a good time
uneven mason
And yet people went apeshit when they played with a pwar in DF
It only took 3 expansions for the "mitigation model" to get noticed
strong forum
plush tendon
but when isnt the pug world not poop
sick sentinel
I didnt pug much, but yea, I imagine the pug world was poop
i say this in the nicest way possible
you have no odea how bad pug world is
its the pitts
plush tendon
I just dont see the point; why play without the bois?
uneven mason
Bfa 95% tankbuster reduction "pwar is shit because it can't heal"
sick sentinel
i dont have to play with the boys
errant leaf
gotta find some bois first
sick sentinel
i just wanna find some pepegas the exact same as me and go in and win
and then we never see eachpther ever again
thats what gaming is about to me, meeting new people
hazy thicket
I'm honestly finding that the community perception has been harmful in a way that I didn't expect. I was getting trucked on 3rd boss TJS earlier, and people in the group were giving me shit when I was dying while heal absorb was still up, because they assume prot warrior is immortal
iron prism
Anyone run into an issue with web blast on mythic senarth hitting non tank players? She will randomly change targets mid cast off our demon hunter. Both tanks in range
slim zinc
I'm honestly finding that the community perception has been harmful in a way tha...
Most of the community lives in a world where 1, maybe 2 tanks and healers can do keys over 15s and half the dps specs do less damage than tanks
sick sentinel
i get the same enjoyment out of playing with friends, randoms or even solo
its about me, and maybe my group, found a way t9 ovsrcome where it normally seemed monumental task or impossible
plush tendon
Anyone run into an issue with web blast on mythic senarth hitting non tank playe...
happened once; hasnt happened since
not really sure what triggers it tbh
hazy thicket
Most of the community lives in a world where 1, maybe 2 tanks and healers can do...
In my experience there are plenty of DPS players who can't keep up with the tank 😁
sick sentinel
dps is the hardest role
quiet minnow
do you guys macro ava/rav/roar
plush tendon
do you guys macro ava/rav/roar
no
sick sentinel
million other bastards coming for your gear if you are dps
iron prism
not really sure what triggers it tbh
We are struggling to find the cause, happening multiple times per pull. I know dathea has some weird interactions with melees and zephyr during succ but that doesn't seem to be it here
plush tendon
We are struggling to find the cause, happening multiple times per pull. I know d...
the one time it happened was right after a grip
sick sentinel
i macro no button to no other button
plush tendon
so I know what you are referring to.... I just dont know how to was triggered
woven trellis
step 1, be a random johnny dps tagging in a pug
step 2, be carried by other dps players doing mechanics, interrupts, control
step 3, think tank takes no damage because its broken
step 4, pug again, but now you with other johnnys
step 5, die blame the tank
plush tendon
maybe one of you just wasnt in range fast enough?
sick sentinel
i just, hit buttons
plush tendon
maybe throwing a taunt out during grip would work
plush tendon
are you macroing any of your cds together?
no
strong forum
No
plush tendon
They dont really line up
strong forum
Don't macro things together
sick sentinel
are you macroing any of your cds together?
press.
plush tendon
and you want to press things on CD and in the proper order
plush tendon
like Ravager can be thrown during or before you charge in
plush tendon
not with AM
sick sentinel
im just smooth brain pwar
plush tendon
lets be real, warriors only know how to zug
sick sentinel
fire is cozy and melts ice, so stand in both same time, cpunter act eachother, yogi tip
gloomy sphinx
lets be real, warriors only know how to zug
Unga bunga
fallen lichen
Anyone else had Molten boulder in rlp just straight up blow in your face? Just bricked a 20 where the boulder rolled about 2 yards from boss, couldn’t see any objects blocking it.
weary saddle
chest enchant - waking stats (+150 STR) or sustained strength (+111 STR, 300 STAM)?
plush tendon
Anyone else had Molten boulder in rlp just straight up blow in your face? Just b...
Happened to me? No. Happened to not paying DPS and Healers? yea. It can hit like the edge of the sidewalk and explode
really need to be mindful about baits and positioning on that fight
plush tendon
chest enchant - waking stats (+150 STR) or sustained strength (+111 STR, 300 STA...
Waking
weary saddle
thanks
plush tendon
Cheaper and more primary
sick sentinel
oh, oh, hmm wtf i did sustained str twice
plush tendon
Waking seems to be the more popular choice
there really isnt a huge difference
but I think more people prefer the extra 40 strength over the 300 stam
sick sentinel
at least 2 times i used rank 2's (chest sustained str) rank 1, 5 gold, rank 2, 35gold rank, 3, 6500 >.>
not like i have 418 or 421 chest
strong forum
The stam enchants are absolute whack
Might aswell not have an enchant at that point
sick sentinel
say that to my, i dunno wtf he was, but very end of TJS, over killed by 40, and then he was madge
high drum
Yes Chef!
viscid plaza
Well shit I've had Sustained Strength on my chest for a hot minute. Guess I could swap and see the difference haha
sick sentinel
i never really follow a guide when it comes to enchanting my gear
enchant gear is very 12345 6789 10 for me
this is the enchants ive done, addon doesn't like DF i think
quiet minnow
someone recommended macroing ip to something earlier, i think it was shield slam?
or shield block
celest portal
For m+ is it worth training whelp shell to do aoe? or single target
pulsar sedge
Shield slam.
viscid plaza
ST
lofty widget
someone recommended macroing ip to something earlier, i think it was shield slam...
Macro shield slam to IP
celest portal
sweet
echo canyon
is 4p good?
viscid plaza
macroing abilities is the fastest way to starve your rage. innit?
lofty widget
Doesnt replace a keybind tjo
quiet minnow
ok so you're still casting ip seperately, just also with ss
lofty widget
macroing abilities is the fastest way to starve your rage. innit?
This particular one just lets you snipe SS while pressing IP
pulsar sedge
The point is if shield slam procs when you are pressing IP, it will instead do the more important slam
tropic tangle
it'll do both since IP is off the GCD
viscid plaza
noted. I'll do that then
uneven mason
macroing abilities is the fastest way to starve your rage. innit?
You macro ss after IP to avoid losing a reset
viscid plaza
Thanks you beautiful bastards
quiet minnow
so just /use ignore pain /use shield slam eh?
uneven mason
/cast
iron prism
maybe one of you just wasnt in range fast enough?
Thought that too, but was happening outside of pull in, just randomly
quiet minnow
beautiful ty
pulsar sedge
Oops, hjad that backwards
quiet minnow
rava and roar dont desync do they? or am i missing a talent
quiet minnow
also im assuming, but just checking, wowhead is good source for up to date build?
rough egret
Just got ruby whelp, is the choice still fire bolt/haste?
quiet minnow
ty for answering my questions today friends, i really appreciate it
pulsar sedge
Yes, i believe they did update wowhead for 10.0.5
errant leaf
Macro shield slam to IP
who tf does that ?
pulsar sedge
? Nothing wrong with it
You use a normal shield slam and an ignore pain with shield slam. it snipes SS resets
uneven mason
Microoptimization
errant leaf
super wierd imo but ok
viscid plaza
You seem super passionate about that Ooo
errant leaf
sometimes when ur not on ava/cds and u play 130 rage build you wont be able to stack as much as u want
pulsar sedge
?
strong forum
viscid plaza
Shield Slam generates rage.
This is just using the free slams we get when we're bulking IP
strong forum
^
rough egret
130 rage build is real?
viscid plaza
Like we're using IP all the time anyway.
strong forum
If you forego pain and gain and bounding stride, you can get overwhelming rage
But playing without bounding stride causes me physical pain irl
sick sentinel
130 rage build is real?
no, because we don't gain enough rage constantly to make it work
errant leaf
i feel like u have less control on ur rage that way but ok
sick sentinel
itd have to use bolster
errant leaf
i play 130 rage in academy
sick sentinel
and we don't take bolster
errant leaf
with no cc at all
strong forum
i feel like u have less control on ur rage that way but ok
It replaces your ignore pain keybind, not your shield slam keybind.
errant leaf
kinda troll but
pulsar sedge
Eh.. We are spam bots.. Never had a time i consistently cap on rage
strong forum
Big difference
subtle sparrow
How do you deal with Violent Outburst if you macro IP and SS?
errant leaf
i think i misunderstood here
viscid plaza
i feel like u have less control on ur rage that way but ok
Dawg one generates rage and free procs, what's happening is you replace IP on your keybind so when you use IP you get the shield slam procs if they're up;
proud dock
out the two, do u take inspiring presence or intervene ? i typically take inspring, seems more useful in general
pulsar sedge
You have a normal SS and a IP that does SS too. Nothing changes
viscid plaza
So it both uses IP and generates rage from the SS proc
strong forum
out the two, do u take inspiring presence or intervene ? i typically take inspri...
Neither
proud dock
is pain and gain the better option then?
errant leaf
ok I thought u were pressing ip on every ss
strong forum
Intervene is only good in HoV
Inspiring presence only in raid
strong forum
is pain and gain the better option then?
Ye
sick sentinel
my baseline m+ talents
proud dock
oh ok cool, i thot inspiring wud be helpful for high aoe output in keys
sick sentinel
can swap out all the normal stuff, spell block for tan, battering ram for thunderlords
quiet minnow
my baseline m+ talents
thunderlord just not that vluable in m+?
pulsar sedge
Not compared to battering ram
quiet minnow
ok
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC8jBHvy9G8 protection warrior summary in dragonflight
viscid plaza
XD
quiet minnow
is spell block that much better than the dmg you're getting from togh as nails/
i can imagine its def good for tjs
pulsar sedge
If you need spellblock, then yes.
errant leaf
spell block is very key related imo
uneven mason
How do you deal with Violent Outburst if you macro IP and SS?
You almost always want to spend outburst on ss
sick sentinel
spell block i have learned is another "don't die button"
which is super important to me
sterile bough
its your choice I'd say 900k dark claw pre mitigation and spell block blocks around 50% is a bit better than 3% overall from tough as nails
pulsar sedge
True, but you can just walk backwards away from dark claws anyways
errant leaf
if u dont need spell block you better go for buffed bleeds than tough as nails imo
sterile bough
True, but you can just walk backwards away from dark claws anyways
as on lower keys it might be true casue the pack is dying realy quick, as on 24 tyra when i did the last pack, I had to run away after like a minute or so and the mobs were still at 20%
pulsar sedge
If you are talking bloodborne.. its a pretty bad talent
strong forum
if u dont need spell block you better go for buffed bleeds than tough as nails i...
Bloodborne is not a dps increase over nails.
viscid plaza
How do you deal with Violent Outburst if you macro IP and SS?
Only want to Clap on 5+ targets so its usually better to burn it on SS
plush tendon
yea, the math doenst check out on bloodbourne
cedar trench
Bloodborn requires two points to do the damage of nails with one point
plush tendon
and although we Zug, we also do mathz
subtle sparrow
Only want to Clap on 5+ targets so its usually better to burn it on SS
That many, I was figuring like 3+
pulsar sedge
Gotta love trap talents lol
cedar trench
Gotta love trap comments tbh
strong forum
The only key where bloodborne may beat nails is AA
inner rock
If you forego pain and gain and bounding stride, you can get overwhelming rage
I feel like an old school dk without bounding strides. Warr mobility is a myth with current abilities (i guess we have a bunch of charges, but they're a ton of mechanics you cant charge through safely)
strong forum
Cuz of the ultra pulls
sterile bough
How do you deal with Violent Outburst if you macro IP and SS?
dont do such an abomination
viscid plaza
5+ is the only time it's a good choice over SS for VO
strong forum
How do you deal with Violent Outburst if you macro IP and SS?
Not any different
It just prevents you to overcap rage
So, very handy
cedar trench
Did you get any info out of the SOS run Andy did @strong forum ?
quiet minnow
anyone know spell block spell id
subtle sparrow
Not any different
I guess I was overvalueing thunder clap with VO in m+
quiet minnow
cant find in premade aura wa
sterile bough
@strong forum do u know if its possible to macro SS/TC together? I mean for pure ST casue the resets are random from devastator if u know what I mean\
strong forum
I think so, but idk how to write that
But idk if that's smart to do, you'd need an entirely new keybind
sterile bough
But idk if that's smart to do, you'd need an entirely new keybind
I have atleast 7 left from my monk
prot warrior legit has no keybinds
strong forum
subtle sparrow
Should be a spreadsheet with all the abbreviations pinned :P
strong forum
Prot war has the 2nd most keybinds of all tanks wdym
Only brew has more
I use 35 combat binds for pwar
48 in total
cedar trench
Only three rows
quiet minnow
I use 35 combat binds for pwar
bru is there even that many keys
sterile bough
all keybinded except one
cedar trench
Smh
sterile bough
also i had some macros on the side bars
quiet minnow
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=386014/spell-block
tyty
sterile bough
for focus
subtle sparrow
TBC warlock, Curse → Shadowbolt.
quiet minnow
TBC warlock, Curse → Shadowbolt.
bring it back
cedar trench
I’m using like around 45ish binds
edgy grail
Yea Im a warlock main
strong forum
In cata I legit had 60 keybinds for warlock pvp
edgy grail
So for all my other toons I have like a whole row left
strong forum
And I didn't even play with focus and Arena frames shit
So missing like 15
Absolute keybind insanity
viscid plaza
bru is there even that many keys
1-4 f, shift f, ctrl f, g, shift g, ctrl g, shift 1-5 and q-r, ctrl 1-5 and q-r then ctrl shift 1, 2, 3, and 4
That's what... 30?
hardy hamlet
123456
qertzyxcvfg
- shift alt and ctrl modifiers and potential f keys
so many keybinds
cedar trench
Ctrl+Alt+S is one of my BIS Keybinds
lusty tiger
In cata I legit had 60 keybinds for warlock pvp
MFin piano man
viscid plaza
I also make sure across all characters that the keybinds do the same thing if the functionality exists
quiet minnow
1-4 f, shift f, ctrl f, g, shift g, ctrl g, shift 1-5 and q-r, ctrl 1-5 and q-r ...
ctrl+shift+1? man you guys got some crazy hand dexterity
viscid plaza
shift 2 is execute, shift e is kick, shift 4 is a movement ability
quiet minnow
im gunna have to practice
cedar trench
Ctrl and shift one finger
deep spruce
Shift+Spacebar is the GOAT keybind. That's my shield wall 💪🏻
viscid plaza
ctrl+shift+1? man you guys got some crazy hand dexterity
My hands are massive, dawg, ctrl shift 1 is two fingers, pinky and middle
quiet minnow
My hands are massive, dawg, ctrl shift 1 is two fingers, pinky and middle
yeah so are mine thast actually exactly the problem lol
im stuck clawed up
cedar trench
Same with Ctrl and alt with pinky and thumb
viscid plaza
I also use a 68% keyboard
quiet minnow
ctrl is very hard to hit because i have to fold my pinky like crazy
viscid plaza
so everything is cramped together
strong forum
Shift+Spacebar is the GOAT keybind. That's my shield wall 💪🏻
I spam jump while doing my rotation, if I bind anything to that I'll literally ruin myself
viscid plaza
But I guess I have decent dexterity, i play guitar haha
cedar trench
Shift space is actual BIS mount macro
subtle sparrow
A friend of mine used the F row keys with one of those old keyboards where the F row was on the other side of the planet. Probably helped that he was a piano player.
quiet minnow
i waste a goat keybind in V for autorun
quiet minnow
its been my autorun since vanilla i cant change
strong forum
Perma
viscid plaza
mb4 for my autorun
deep spruce
I spam jump while doing my rotation, if I bind anything to that I'll literally r...
I rarely jump, but I also don't use space for a modifier on many
cedar trench
Can’t mount in combat problem solved
proud dock
u think its safe to keybind scroll wheel (without modifiers)? is there ever a time mechanic wise u need to scroll in or out?
viscid plaza
and for healing I use, save for a few spells, all click cast so it's just a matter of remembering what's what.
deep spruce
Just look at my jumping ass
Lol that's insane 🤣🤣
proud dock
im thinking maybe tight spaces?
cedar trench
I use scroll up and down
deep spruce
u think its safe to keybind scroll wheel (without modifiers)? is there ever a ti...
Yeah it's safe, not many people still have zoom in/out on scroll
quiet minnow
in TJS, does spell block block jade serpent strike/
cedar trench
And modi versions too
viscid plaza
https://youtu.be/4bPg2AovRIY
my mans said "35 keybinds is not enough I have to ALWAYS be pressing something"
strong forum
Yeah
tepid raptor
How bad is this nerf for us?
viscid plaza
in TJS, does spell block block jade serpent strike/
Nope just the regular pre-jade serpent strike
strong forum
I NEED to spam
cedar trench
If your hands don’t hurt by the time you’re done with wow for the day you haven’t got enough keybinds
strong forum
How bad is this nerf for us?
Irrelevant
subtle sparrow
How bad is this nerf for us?
You have to reroll druid now
viscid plaza
Irrelevant
strong forum
We take 6% more phys dmg, that's it
quiet minnow
https://youtu.be/4bPg2AovRIY
also damn you listen to that junkyard techno stuff i know a guy who makes that kinda music never ever heard anything like it again till now
idk what oyu call that genre
viscid plaza
It didn't change playstyle and barely changed survivability
quiet minnow
just sounds like the future
cedar trench
Sound is sound just need something happening in the ears
tepid raptor
Havent played since 2 years but came back cuz tank warr is nice, but in what way is prot superior?
Dps and damage taken?
viscid plaza
Havent played since 2 years but came back cuz tank warr is nice, but in what way...
Every way but mobility
strong forum
It's super consistent, very good dmg, block remains like always. Have alot of CDs
viscid plaza
Survivability is insanely high, damage is good, the self-sustain is bonkers
SMOOTH damage curves
tepid raptor
We back at clapping ftw?
viscid plaza
like you don't take massive spikes like druids or monks or DH do, it's smoother to heal, I run both
tepid raptor
Damn nice, SB pogging then? We should do fine ST?
strong forum
We're #1 St dmg tank
viscid plaza
Yes
cedar trench
Bathe in the glory lads for next season, only blizzard knows
sick sentinel
Except bleeds
even then, we have 3 possible outs for bleeeds, talent, race, evoekr
cedar trench
Nvm they don’t know
strong forum
Next season will suck for pwar
Halls of infusion and brackenhide are literally anti-pwar
subtle sparrow
Which talent removes bleed?
strong forum
Stoneform
cedar trench
I hope they get slammed with the change hammer
sick sentinel
bitter immunity
cedar trench
He’s talking about BI
strong forum
Bitter immunity doesn't remove bleeds
tepid raptor
do proffessions help anything with ur spec now? I've heard it should impact the gameplay more now
pulsar sedge
Bitter doesnt remove bleeds.
strong forum
do proffessions help anything with ur spec now? I've heard it should impact the ...
No
tepid raptor
Only gearing maybe..
cedar trench
Not even then really
strong forum
You can order any kind of gear, you don't need to make anything yourself
haughty haven
Alcomy potions last longer is the only thing that professions have any effect on.
tepid raptor
Yeh alchemy is a given proffession
rough egret
Any advice before i enter NO19 ? 😄
tepid raptor
Clap
cedar trench
Gl
rough egret
Woho
toxic gyro
Use spell reflect 👍
pulsar sedge
Bait those casts on storm boss!
rough egret
Yeah
strong forum
You can outrange arcing strike
You don't need to tank that hit
Only reflect conductive strike on last boss
cedar trench
8 yards just like void slash
sick sentinel
i have to place a marker on girl on duo boss or i get fucked up
strong forum
It's shorter than void slash
sick sentinel
i always fuck it up without, every time
strong forum
Ye but it also say 8 for dark claw
cedar trench
Fair
strong forum
But that's just 1 step
sick sentinel
cuz, its so much easier to just save leap and charge for the marked girl
strong forum
Void slash you need to proper run away
cedar trench
I always feel like it’s so inconsistent with the range on all three
rough egret
cuz, its so much easier to just save leap and charge for the marked girl
You can just follow the leaps she does 🙂
strong forum
The voidslash mobs have large hitboxes
cedar trench
Yea true, everything also wiggles constantly as dwarf too
rough egret
The swirls do 0 dmg
cedar trench
So thay probably doesn’t help
sick sentinel
this weekend is extremely free if people kick spells and attempt to kill mobs evenly
just saying
strong forum
Where they try to get closer to you
But they're already in range
So they shimmy around
sick sentinel
very very asy push conditions RIGHT NOW
sick sentinel
like, keys are stupidly easy right now gogo
strong forum
All Player race hit boxes should be the same
To prevent classic cheese
Where tauren had a larger melee range
round pendant
So they shimmy around
That shit is so annoying lol
cedar trench
Yea it’s not as bad as the dragons in rlp but they definitely always just readjust
Jaina used to wiggle a lot too
Hated that
inland raft
anyone know anybrew's reasoning for enduring alacrity over something like battering ram? seems lowish value
sick sentinel
Where tauren had a larger melee range
i played rogue in 2005 wow so i got to experience doing, go stealth, distract ONE elite guy from a pack so he desyncs, go to sap a mob, sap fails and im out of stealth
and probably pick pocket too, life was good
median tulip
anyone know anybrew's reasoning for enduring alacrity over something like batter...
I use it in Raids. But Battering Ram is nailed on in M+
cedar trench
He said they mathed it out that you needed a certain amount of tc hits to make TL better or something, idk probs talking out my ass
uneven mason
So they shimmy around
Glad I'm not the only one experiencing this
strong forum
To quote myself "the best case scenario for TL is that it allows you do get demo shout for boss mechanics which you otherwise couldn't survive"
uneven mason
Last boss rlp was doing a jig in me
strong forum
That's what I told Andy
cedar trench
Yea that’s pretty much what he said
strong forum
But such a scenario doesn't exist
uneven mason
But such a scenario doesn't exist
Because defensive stance exists
cedar trench
What’s that
inland raft
ya i played with tl for a while and never felt like i got a demo shout where otherwise wouldnt have in terms of boss mechs plus ya theres always other tools
uneven mason
Literally if Demo would allow you to survive you should just be pressing defensive for the burst
strong forum
Literally if Demo would allow you to survive you should just be pressing defensi...
It's always in combination with dstance obv
strong forum
SOS is the real tech
We did the math, it doesn't beat any other talent still
cedar trench
Yea I talked with asa briefly, the rage gen felt nuts but outside that was meh
strong forum
In my case I'd lose BV for it, but all teh rage I'd gain from ravager I'd get from BV instead
So it's a net 0
But you don't get the dmg amp for CDs
median tulip
stacking Avatar and Booming Voice for Battering Ram and TRoar is fun
sick sentinel
dmg reduced by 30%
median tulip
I don't play Thunderlord for the defensive benefits, I play it for the offense
cedar trench
It wasn’t so much the damage tbh IMO
rough egret
I like the synergy of DS with SC
subtle sparrow
I see some people stacking crit over vers, crit is just damage right?
echo canyon
craft shield of hearth or molten defender?
strong forum
Molten defender
echo canyon
why ?
viscid plaza
I think I have Thunderlord, so I'm going to drop it for Battering Ram I think
rough egret
I see some people stacking crit over vers, crit is just damage right?
More dam and parry
sick sentinel
what if they instead nerfed the dmg of base ravager to 70% and then if you take that talent, you get 30% dmg to make it what it used to be
strong forum
Cuz hearth is bad
cedar trench
Mouse over your crit in game and read it
rough egret
😄
buoyant narwhal
You can outrange arcing strike
which boss does Arcing strike, dont think ive been outranging it so can improve on it
median tulip
But thunderlord is a dmg loss over battering ram
sick sentinel
thunderlords is bad some how
strong forum
https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682
What are you gonna remove for it lol
rough egret
which boss does Arcing strike, dont think ive been outranging it so can improve ...
Its mob
sick sentinel
TL is not very good, even in mythic +
strong forum
which boss does Arcing strike, dont think ive been outranging it so can improve ...
It's the melee mobs around the totem packs at 2nd boss
sick sentinel
its good, but its not B A S tier
buoyant narwhal
ohh nice thanks!
median tulip
What are you gonna remove for it lol
Enduring Alacrity
cedar trench
Wut
toxic pewter
With latest nerfs did that effect ITF/HR dynamic at all? Would it seem ITF is even more greedy to play in m+ or am I missing something
strong forum
Enduring Alacrity
That doesn't answer my question
strong forum
Cuz outside of 25s, you shouldn't even have that talented
Like, you can't play TL + Battering ram without giving up a better talent
echo canyon
need a better shield @viscid plaza ^^
viscid plaza
need a better shield <@100723186454269952> ^^
Molten Defender
strong forum
Unless you for God knows why, don't play punish
cedar trench
I’m a double bloodborn gamer
viscid plaza
That's why you make the molten defender because it's better to spend your 2 embellished slots elsewhere
cedar trench
viscid plaza
Id be making a helm, but I like the potion duration increase I put on my molten defender haha
strong forum
Sure
echo canyon
so molten defender whitout embellished?
cedar trench
People use helm?
round pendant
need a better shield <@100723186454269952> ^^
Hearth has an embellishment which means you can't get a better one like with the belt or the helm, so defender is better
viscid plaza
Some folks do, I'm sure there's a better embellishment but I don't know all of them. I just know the helm is better than the shield
viscid plaza
Confused by what?
round pendant
Lariat + Hearth = no belt or helm
cedar trench
Hearth has an embellish so it’s better than molten? Or am I having 3am dyslexia
round pendant
Dyslexia
viscid plaza
Hearth has an embellish so it’s better than molten? Or am I having 3am dyslexia
Yeah molten is better
round pendant
I wish shield spikes were an enchant and not an embellishment :(
rough egret
training the whelp does not increase dmg/healing/stats of particular ability, it just change the proc chance of the spells right?
subtle sparrow
I've been doing HC for 3 hours, didn't notice that when I used catalyst on a gear piece, I lost the gem
oak echo
training the whelp does not increase dmg/healing/stats of particular ability, it...
yeah the values are just based on ilvl
rough egret
thanks
prime robin
when simminng are you all just looking at dps or is there somethingn else to compare?
cedar trench
Can’t sim anything other than damage
prime robin
and in most cases are prot wars just taking the dps increase?
plush tendon
pretty much; you can follow the stat prio of I level>haste>crit=vers>mastery
cedar trench
Generally yes within reason
plush tendon
and for trinkets, theres a general list of what we like
prime robin
gotcha, im wonderinng if i craft my 418 shield or craft 418 wep and upgrade crystal bulwark to 415
cedar trench
Whichever option gives you more stats
plush tendon
Shield>Wep
cedar trench
In combination
late wasp
pretty much; you can follow the stat prio of I level>haste>crit=vers>mastery
I'm seeing some warriors enchanting Mastery, is there some breakpoint where adding Mastery for the AP is the play?
late wasp
I went really hard into Haste/Vers
plush tendon
might be playing fury or arms main spec
late wasp
and I keep seeing people doing otherwise
plush tendon
for my prot specific gear (one hand sword and shield) i went vers/haste and for things like lariat I went haste/crit
late wasp
There's probably a whole laundry list of things I'm just being bad at
hard quartz
the only real breakpoint is at 30% stat you start getting a diminishing return so it may give better ROI to invest in the next best stat ?
plush tendon
but gear is frankly a small portion of what will make you better; as long as you equip highest I level, youll be alright
more often then not, its your gameplay that will account for the largest increase in surv and damage
median tulip
I enchant for Mastery because I have very little on the rest of my gear and all stats matter
rough egret
what 405 would you craft? its either belt / second ring , but belt is giving me 340 more haste due to set piece with hands 😄
dapper vapor
rough egret
yeah.. i have
cedar trench
Nah don’t craft a trinket
cedar trench
I’d play seed but yea hoof probably the play for dam
proud dock
is boon a trap for m+? too risky for 10sec?
cedar trench
Depends if you can use brain to decide when it’s safe
proud dock
is it cancelable?
strong forum
No
ionic roost
Depends on the key tbh
cedar trench
Don’t think so
cedar trench
Same argument for a guzzle, just depends how you use it
strong forum
Yeah that's cap
That a 20ilvl upgrade on belt is a dps loss
Ah nvm
It's cuz set bonus
cedar trench
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7e5zNhE2nwZiFJnb2terxr 🙂
Should be able to run an actual droptmizer sim if you have it
rough egret
its running 🙂
mint imp
strong forum
ST
strong forum
do you guys chain pull at all in fort/bolster?
Don't chain pull
whole vortex
it's not as terrible a sin as it used to be, now that bolstering fades
still bad practice
edgy grail
Its still awfully slow
strong forum
Haste is also usable, but St is the most consistent of an inconsistent trinket
whole vortex
I feel like bolstering is just slow in general
most dpsers aren't careful to kill stuff evenly
nova cloak
Thanks
edgy grail
It sure is slow, no reason to make it slower
proud dock
anyone else notice sometimes shield charge goes on CD but doesnt do anything. typically like when target in in midair or something. it doesnt exactly behave like regular charge
strong forum
Never noticed that no
proud dock
i think it occurs usually like when target is not exactly in the same horizontal plane as ur character
proud dock
by do nothing i mean it doesnt move me into target even tho theres enough gap between me and target that a regular charge would have moved me
strong forum
OH
You mean that
Ye it doesn't move you if it's not >8yrds
But it still does dmg and everything
proud dock
but i swaer its like more than 8 yds
nimble laurel
Does anyone want to give me feedback on a 21 NO run from yesterday? I still think I need to Revenge more.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/q6tcfZyHDdKvhFG3/#fight=5&type=damage-done&source=2
sick sentinel
Bring back permanent bolster
it could have a longer duration, up to 1 minute i think
but never permannet
also it caps at 10 bolsters
nobody wants to see SBG spider, 35 bolsters
strong forum
Does anyone want to give me feedback on a 21 NO run from yesterday? I still thin...
You should send more SS
flint needle
What item should i upgrade first to 418 ? https://i.imgur.com/VZzdJD8.png i have legit no clue Ring, wep,shield belt and lariat is craftet
inland raft
10 bolster spotters in siege of boralas the good days
bitter ravine
sux we wont see anything like bolstered spotters in siege anymore
strong forum
Does anyone want to give me feedback on a 21 NO run from yesterday? I still thin...
You can compare to mine
nimble laurel
You should send more SS
I agree. Perhaps I am making the wrong decision. During Avatar on trash pulls, I am trying to use TClap on every CD. So my rotation is TClap -> Revenge -> TClap -> SS -> TClap -> S-Charge/T-Roar/Ravager. I'm just struggling with having enough GCDs.
inland raft
There is a target point where that becomes play isnt there but forget what it is
nimble laurel
is SS prio in AOE for rage gen to enable more Revenge?
nimble laurel
yeah, Avatar CD and SW CD, too
nimble laurel
Wow. I was only at 59k in details
strong forum
What item should i upgrade first to 418 ? https://i.imgur.com/VZzdJD8.png i have...
Shield > weapon > belt > ring/lariat
nimble laurel
why does your log show the whole group as tanks
strong forum
Cuz we are
lusty tiger
nimble laurel
lol....
strong forum
Sadly then Band is broken up, otherwise we'd get alot more content now
Cuz I've gained 8ilvl since this run 😦
flint needle
Shield > weapon > belt > ring/lariat
ty <3
south zealot
Sadly then Band is broken up, otherwise we'd get alot more content now
oh damn
sadge
nimble laurel
So.. I will try prioritizing SS over TClap on pulls <= 5 mobs, even with Avatar, and see if that nets me any higher dps.
Wow, I expected that I was spending too much rage on IP, but you literally cast it ~100 times more likely due to your SS rage gen
Your revenge casts >100 more
an extra 10% uptime on Avatar as well
hybrid fossil
what are the pros and cons for into the fray over HR?
oak echo
ITF gets you more damage mostly. HR gives you a much smoother SB uptime. with ITF you'll have gaps without high enough base haste and pretty much requires you to take bolster
oak echo
i suppose i also assumed you're talking M+. in raid you basically always take ITF
hybrid fossil
yeah only m+
brisk sparrow
talking m+ is sophic or frozen devotion ahead? seems like there are basically 2 camps^^
oak echo
frozen is more damage, sophic is good and brings some defensive value
wind lotus
noob question, how does refreshing SB work? if you use both charges back to back, does the duration get added or one overwrites the other
sturdy sable
Actually at higher ilvls i think the become comparable
wind lotus
or pandemic refresh rules
sturdy sable
Sophic v frozen
oak echo
or pandemic refresh rules
purely additive and caps at 24s (assuming you're using enduring defenses)
if you have bolster and use last stand it'll add 15 regardless to if it goes over the cap though
inland raft
To get more technical it caps at 3x base and bolster ignores that rule
oak echo
^
waxen patrol
Guys any tip for my last spark craft? im farming my concentrated primal focus to put all my craft at 418 rn
blazing condor
shield
blazing condor
oh didnt see arrows
well
recraft that shit to 418
if you have lariat and belt and have wep/shield i'd just fill lowest ilvl slot
catalyst it
inner rock
ITF gets you more damage mostly. HR gives you a much smoother SB uptime. with I...
Is the takeaway tldr, if you arent at risk of dying from unblocked physicals ever, always take ITF?
waxen patrol
nice will prob go for boots or bracer cuz that helmet will be a pice of set soon
actually i need to see stats for set piece helmet
frozen rose
Imps in court of stars,
It the right move to let their first casts go off, and they’ll all hit me? And reflect? Assuming I have aggro on them all
For some reason I feel like I’m not the only one targeted by those casts
inner rock
Yeah when i charge in, first casts are all on me. I find if they get interrupted without follow up cc people tend to die. Imo, far better to tell your group to let first casts go off.
waxen patrol
@blazing condor bro what do you think about that enginering bracers, that can have a chance to brez?
blazing condor
they seem fine from what ive seen in keys
havent tried
but not anything thats needed
waxen patrol
humm prob ill try this, since my actual bracer is a piece of shit haha
will lost one line of stats but gain a chance to brez
thin mulch
offensive warrior stat priority? for crafted gear enchanting and gemming.
limpid anchor
Haste crit
thin mulch
ty
versed delta
God damn, did the pug DPS all take stupid juice this week
naive panther
prot war pumps so hard
so i did a nok 20 as fury finished at low 70s, didn't time, the war tank did 36k and wasn't smooth. then just did nok 20 as prot and hit 71k, timed easy, top dps was only 88k though. probably why my dps was higher? dps was a bit lower from them than it should be
fury feels like you're slapping cause so many rampages and so much rage and bladestorms etc, but still at least for me underperforms hard
wind lotus
purely additive and caps at 24s (assuming you're using enduring defenses)
so no real danger of wasting shield block charges from spamming it?
naive panther
maybe my dps would have been higher if they had better ST, cause the long boss fights hurt it
potent anvil
20 academy 
hybrid fossil
should i use the belt if i dont have the raid ring?
pallid quiver
pins, but all embellishments are roughly equal in performance
deep spruce
20 academy <a:LETSGOOO:770741530805796874>
Any logs for this by any chance? holy shit
hybrid fossil
pins, but all embellishments are roughly equal in performance
ah, right. sorry. I have all other items wasnt sure if its good if u dont have the ring. but nvm then 🙂 ty!
potent anvil
Any logs for this by any chance? holy shit
Oh, I don't really log m+ sorry. But uh, it's pretty much just pull big and hope dps don't die to bolstered mobs lol
cloud umbra
prot destroys in academy haha
surreal lake
Fresh lvl 70 - whats the best crafted item to craft first? I got the quest t kill raszageth so i'll get a primal infusoin and hopefully have around 70-80 chaos - main sword best to get to 402/405
?
vestal torrent
Fresh lvl 70 - whats the best crafted item to craft first? I got the quest t kil...
Pins
Check the guides
surreal lake
you mean the icy-veins/wowhead ones?
lofty widget
Shield is prob the Best defensive option to start with
cloud umbra
unless you do mythic raiding acuse i think a shield drops off the first boss
whole acorn
is it just me or do we actually have to spend points in our stances now? (1st day online in 10.0.5)
sick sentinel
yeah, unfortunately, wow is a game of "weapon slot matters"
lofty widget
is it just me or do we actually have to spend points in our stances now? (1st da...
Swap to fury then back to prot, its a bug
surreal lake
ah thanks shield it will be then, when keeping in mind i'll eventually make 5 (and evnetually more) crafted items, should I make the shield that has the embellsihment versatility or just the one with plain stats?
sick sentinel
already 8/8 dungeons for week, i gotta do some higher keys though
farmin for 405 material
lofty widget
ah thanks shield it will be then, when keeping in mind i'll eventually make 5 (a...
Nah just regular, embellishments Are better spent elsewhere
Although theyre All fairly equal so dont stress it too much
reef holly
already 8/8 dungeons for week, i gotta do some higher keys though
Jump into 15s
Or 16s
I finally got a pug friendly AV route that I’m happy with
That place sucks
surreal lake
Nah just regular, embellishments Are better spent elsewhere
sweet thanks and i guess i can use aurora on it too
magic swan
yall like frozen devo? or sophic?
sick sentinel
my loot has been on fury this entire time now
i want that AV versa trinket just to say i have it
frosty mango
seems like it does a lot of damage
silent comet
It does until you're rooted and it kills you
frosty mango
sounds like a healer problem
quartz brook
Yo guys, what talents do you use now so far? May you share them with me please? can't see anymore talents on raider.io dunno why
modern brook
trim kettle
hey is there any good guide for mage tower?
marble bridge
hey is there any good guide for mage tower?
I just tried it and got wrecked - been able to get through the solo content easily as a tank - feel like I'm missing something essential here
jagged pier
the mage tower is the easiest its ever been
but the point of the mage tower
its to learn the mechanics
and progress through it
uneven mason
the mage tower is the easiest its ever been
forgot it was back
toxic pewter
What do you get for actually doing mage tower
trim kettle
is there specific gear i will need to do it
or can i just enter with my current df gear
toxic pewter
Ok I’m gonna do it this weekend
astral crystal
It’s much easier since the nerfs
uneven mason
does it scale you?
jagged pier
does it scale you?
ye
oak echo
What do you get for actually doing mage tower
unless you're doing it for the meta achievement to get the spellbook mount, all you get for doing it on warrior is this appearance.
full venture
you guys think cobalt rings gunna out perform a 418 crafted ring still?
toxic pewter
unless you're doing it for the meta achievement to get the spellbook mount, all ...
Cool thank you for telling me
finite scarab
any tips for surviving piercing shards in a 20 av
finite scarab
haha lol
oak echo
but intimidating does work as a stop and maybe that's why i said it
finite scarab
i have a 20 tjs and a 20 av in my group and i dont know if im more scared of the piercing shards or the last pull of jade
oak echo
in av do you do the 3-4 shard pulls? or just the ones on the ring
finite scarab
the 3-4
astral crystal
Int shout does work on them
oak echo
so on the first pull, assuming you're lusting there. not much to do besides getting stops and using CDs. on the 2nd one with 4, you can also LOS around the pieces of wall that stick out
median tulip
Does the frost fire belt only apply its effect to your primary target when using AoE abilities, or can it be any target hit?
deep spruce
build suggestion for mage tower? M+ or raid ST build/defensive or whatever
sterile bough
in av do you do the 3-4 shard pulls? or just the ones on the ring
thats how I did it
finite scarab
can they drop from m+?
deep spruce
can they drop from m+?
yea
sturdy sable
I hear your better off doing dirt piles for sparks
sick sentinel
i want to run some AV and i cant see how to do it on that page
oak echo
just click share at the top
lavish oracle
https://keystone.guru/route/the-azure-vault/a0bn3OM/the-azure-vault-temporary-ro...
Wait, why skip the frogs?
silent fog
Hello there ! One quick question, how do you manage the toxin from the lasher on the Overgrow ancient in AA ?
oak echo
bring a poison dispel
you won't manage it without that unless you kite them the entire time they're alive
sick sentinel
how much of your dps does side arm average
silent fog
you won't manage it without that unless you kite them the entire time they're al...
okay thanks
zealous willow
Tough as nails is not used anymore?
oak echo
you use it in most dungeons still
sterile bough
Wait, why skip the frogs?
annoying to kill + to make it somehow efficient u need to chain them which is almost impossible with bolstering
lavish oracle
They felt okay in an 18, just kinda pulled them such that the breaker in each section died before the other mobs
sterile bough
guess on 18 is fine casue even with scuffed cds ppl can kill it somehow fast