regular dorf has better cusomisation
#protection
strong forum
sick sentinel
regular dwarf is way more traditional anyways
daring marlin
Panda animations are good
chilly brook
Panda animations are BiS
daring marlin
too bad you can't wear helms
warm plinth
Panda dance
warm plinth
torpid hawk
daring marlin
All the homies love haymaker
sick sentinel
good for sanguine keyts
daring marlin
You got this ezpz
torpid hawk
You got this ezpz
i did that just to trigger ppl 🙂
daring marlin
🤣
torpid hawk
prot magetower is joke
steady steppe
is it worth to have both proc rings?
daring marlin
I always found is significantly easier on prot pally tbh
daring marlin
Even when they had to do double the damage of other tanks
sick sentinel
i can never ever unsee this
daring marlin
In Legion you could legit kill Inquisitor from range 
sick sentinel
i gotta get to wherever a elemental storm is
farm out points, to buy ring of shame
unless i somehow learn that the ring actually has lower stats for its ilvl cuz it has an effect
torpid junco
is downgrading a piece of gear 30 ilvl worth 4 piece?
slim dove
4pce stronger then it appears imo
just got it finally this week and it feels great with brutal vit.
steady steppe
should i take filial if i already have diurnas chosen and belt to proc it
sick sentinel
still just gunna do low keys for next few ones so i can craft another 405
week looks fun so far
chrome lance
@strong forum not sure what i am doing wrong. but i bearly got him to 49% and my dps is around 1.5k...
strong forum
dps gets inflated by the infernals
cuz they take more dmg
so dont look at that
but make sure to stun the drain life
stay in the puddle until like 6 stacks
kill the eyes
bright citrus
did we ever talk about what trinkets were best for prot in the raid if you don't have whetstone or incarnate? we were talking trinket buts but I got pulled into a meeting and missed it.
strong forum
did we ever talk about what trinkets were best for prot in the raid if you don't...
whatever sims highest
sick sentinel
oh right, thats why i love shamans, they have a very short CD on kick
mighty valley
there's like... no correlation
bloodborne is still the absolute tiniest big pull aoe dps optimization in exchange for talents that are more broadly good
strong forum
pick whatver you like more
mighty valley
it's "whatever gear you get"
jagged pier
there is not debate pick your favourite
woven trellis
ye but sometimes i have to pick missives
so i actually have to make a choice
which i hate
strong forum
i pick crit cuz its more damage
mighty valley
do you like the parry noise
mighty valley
generally crit then? but just sim every upgrade i guess
strong forum
then crit is your best friend
split stratus
Lashers in AA don't bolster, right ?
thorn sage
How good is tier for tanking M+? My vault has a 10 ilvl upgrade as one of only good pieces, but I would lose 2 piece tier until near future when I use catalyst
lofty widget
in m+/raids?
B-stance
mighty valley
Lashers in AA don't bolster, right ?
no, typically non elites can receive bolstering but don't cause it
lofty widget
Lashers in AA don't bolster, right ?
no
mighty valley
the AA small birds absolutely do bolster the alphas tho
sick sentinel
monsters spawn by bosses will not bolster said boss
visual agate
trinket preferences anyone? I have 402 whet, 421 incarnate, 415 Deco of Flame and 411 Torch. What combo is your fave?
woven trellis
wet incarnate for m+ grieftforch incarnate for raid?
mighty valley
your torch prob outdoes your whetstone but takes a bit more thought on when to activate in m+
visual agate
hmmn so whet for ease torch for maximization
mighty valley
incarnate isn't great for m+, more worth for raid if you're activating everyone else's icons
visual agate
incarnate isnt that good in m+ even as a stat stick?
our other tank has incarnate already
mighty valley
it's ok, you can sim it, and double on-use can be awkward which is your only other option
hopefully you can replace it with an alltotem or something soon
visual agate
I have a 405 all totem
but i've always heard it wasn't good for some reason
so whet/totem?
mighty valley
if they were all same ilvl whet/totem would be the no brainer but honestly you should probably just sim the damage
and if there's only a small difference, take into account the defensive bonus of totem
strong forum
but i've always heard it wasn't good for some reason
cuz nobody spent the 2 minutes to figure out what it does lol
visual agate
cuz nobody spent the 2 minutes to figure out what it does lol
guilty tbh lol
strong forum
🙂
visual agate
I just kept it thinking... it might actually not be bad
but everybody was like nahhh
strong forum
ive always said it was among the best trinkets
cuz i figured out what it did in beta
round pendant
why am I doing equal damage to the dps players in m+
strong forum
but yeah, people are catching on now
round pendant
ugh
strong forum
its really good in m+
mighty valley
people see the words "dodge" and "parry" and assume that somehow means it must not be meant for prot
strong forum
most people assumed it only did dmg
cuz checking your buffs
when you proc something is hard
round pendant
I really dunno how to survive against that last pack in TJS
I shield wall, then I spell block
they're still alive
strong forum
you kite once youre out of CDs
visual agate
I also have a 415 Strength of the pack >.>
round pendant
Tbf this damage seems kinda mid
ocean bloom
I usually try to stun the 1st 1 or 2 of the busters then Wall > Spell Block > Last stand > Wall
round pendant
the 36k is me
visual agate
^^
round pendant
was a 13 key
visual agate
if that is a high key you are playing with... oh
round pendant
I've NEVER seen anyone do 70-100k in a pug
strong forum
ya ok in 13s you cant expect much
visual agate
^
round pendant
It's so miserable
strong forum
the 13 ive done i topped dps
visual agate
^
onyx vessel
visual agate
well if you're doing 13s you wont see that kinda damage unless its a carry lol
round pendant
I just want to have fun 😢
I played with 2 people who were doing 60k and it was quite nice with packs actually dying
but no one ever does more than 40k in these keys
onyx vessel
the key i did with a guild i was in was sub 30k in a 14 slog of a jade
i was barely behind 2 dps at 25k
round pendant
On one hand this week is easier than last week
onyx vessel
round pendant
but not when people can barely dps more than a tank
visual agate
ahh so if I sim dungeon slice with only incarn proccing off tank All totem of the master is better than 421 incarn
round pendant
the sad thing is, that DK in the screenshot is my friend and he gets salty if I tell him to pump harder
mighty valley
ahh so if I sim dungeon slice with only incarn proccing off tank All totem of th...
dungeon slice doesn't really work for us from what i've heard
strong forum
dungeon slice is whack
onyx vessel
guess i pumped too hard almost beat them in a key i was carrying them
strong forum
you can sim entire dungeons soon or already
by importing your route from MDT
and sim that
visual agate
you can sim entire dungeons soon or already
oh wow
pallid quiver
I consistently out DPS one of my friends who plays Mage atm, regardless of key level. He outgears me, even
I just can't figure it out
visual agate
okay now it's saying torch/whet is my best...
onyx vessel
i do like 40k as a dps and im dogshit at 400ilvl
mighty valley
my mage guildies are only just starting to beat my 40-60k, slow to learn movement etc for these dungeons
onyx vessel
fury this xpac too hard for my dumbass
pallid quiver
I really need to just sit and watch him play
mighty valley
fury is just dump all your CDs in sequence then press rb/rampage til they're back
onyx vessel
make him stream it and watch him do some dumb shit
pallid quiver
i dont know how much dps i do as fury because i still only have 372 two handers smh
I'm at the point where I'd do more damage with SMF
onyx vessel
379 2hs drop from captain lancer 43% drop rate
i simmed as fury 2 1hs was like 1k dps loss
my 1hs are about same ilvl
visual agate
dont play SMF lol
onyx vessel
very weak
pallid quiver
i prefer the aesthetic of smf, but like
muh damage
pallid quiver
I've been arms lootspec
onyx vessel
im sitting on 405 379 tho
pallid quiver
Ever since I got a 421 wep and had my 418 shield
onyx vessel
so yeah maybe smf may be like 100~ dps over it with 421 weapon + w.e the other one is over your 2 379s
sim it
42ilvl over still probably about the samee
silk pond
Can you block web blast?
mighty valley
the list is in pins, but yes
lunar scarab
with the 4pc set from revenge does the IP shield block 50% of one hit or 50% of the shield but you receive 100% of the remaining damage?
mighty valley
pallid quiver
IP works by redirecting 50% of damage intake to the absorb. If the damage goes over the absorb amount, it just goes back to your HP
It is not a 50% dr
strong forum
if the hit does 500k, and you have a 50k IP, you will take 450k and be left with 0 IP
if the hit doe 50k and you have a 50k IP, you will take 25k and be left with 25k IP
pallid quiver
^^^
onyx vessel
hit does 500k
mighty valley
and the IP from tier works exactly the same as a normal IP
sonic rock
Any changes with patch to talents/playstyle?
strong forum
no
sonic rock
Not rerolling til they remove valor cap
urban bane
something can stop the prot train. "shield block duration has been reduced by 75%"
coarse flower
something can stop the prot train. "shield block duration has been reduced by 75...
bro anyone else remember when prot warrior couldnt block shoots
proud dock
do u craft the fire belt only if u have the fire ring? using weap embelisshment atm not sur eif it worth swapping the embellish without the ring (atm, farming for it)
pallid quiver
If you already have your embels and no fire ring, I'd just sit on them; they're all roughly the same performance level, so it's not cost effective to fuss with them
daring barn
Just crafted a 418 mace. You guys think Sophic or Frozen is better?
onyx vessel
the reflect helm is pretty good tho for m+
sophic for general frozen for m+
so frozen all day
woven trellis
what talent do u take out if u want to go battering ram
onyx vessel
reduces dmg of any kind
pallid quiver
so what makes ignore pain so good if all it does is give you a shield?
It does smooth your damage intake, but it's a rage dump off the GCD
onyx vessel
rather then block which is only physical
pretty good defensive tool that most tanks wish they had
onyx vessel
spell reflect^
urban bane
i was like "... deez butts?"
hard quartz
SB does trivialize parts of Jade ❤️
pallid quiver
SR especially, yeah, actually
onyx vessel
spell block is pretty good too
pallid quiver
i was talking about shield block
hard quartz
oh that old thing
proud dock
is there a way to sim/check out how much difference there is between each embellish?
onyx vessel
probably not
warm plinth
There is but they've already done it for you in the pins. They're pretty much all right around 1%
jagged pier
is there a way to sim/check out how much difference there is between each embell...
gear compare
pallid quiver
is there a way to sim/check out how much difference there is between each embell...
If you mean for your personal case, you can sim between different embellishment aetups to check for damage differences, but the more direct comparisons have already been done by TCs
proud dock
gear compare
thanks
pallid quiver
If you want to look at the math behind it, you'd want to check in with Nome or Mwahi (i dont know who actually was involved in figuring out, sorry), but I assume that's not your interest
onyx vessel
cant really go wrong with lariat tho
unborn forge
what is **FbV ** in our talent tree?
woeful trellis
getting rid of 1h embi and go for lariat?
unborn forge
thxx nice
grave wedge
I dont recall having rend on my bars but its there today. We dont cast rend as a spell correct?
slim dove
tc applies rend.
woeful trellis
they switched spell ids rend = avatar
grave wedge
thank you
woeful trellis
so drop it and get avatar again
grave wedge
i was trying to place it lmao
round pendant
do I have to get the souls for frostfire belt every time I want to recraft?
woeful trellis
nope
round pendant
This guy is charging me 25k to craft it
woeful trellis
u only need the steel 🙂
round pendant
that seems like a scam considering I paid 10k for my lariat
inland garnet
getting rid of 1h embi and go for lariat?
Oh nice, Haste ~ Tempo :)))
in the german client
woeful trellis
yeah 😄 but i still dont know if i should do it 😄
oblique sun
I have this in my vault and i don't know what to pick.
I have the helm already but ilvl 398. I have none of the trinkets. (I have better cloak) Would you say one of the trinkets are more worth than 13ilvl upgrade on set piece?
woeful trellis
totem is strong af in m+
oblique sun
I mainly tank m+, just reserve tank in raid so yeah, m+ focused
inland garnet
Why don't u consider the helm to be 415 ilev? with a bit of valor
oblique sun
dodge or parry = counterattack frontal damage on mobs
Yeah that's also an option Taurine
I'm currently at 2050 rating though so would need a bit more to upgrade it
inland garnet
I don't play with these trinkets but because they aren't upgradable and because you can get higher ilev alternatives from spamming m+
Helm looks like an obvious pick
severe fractal
when they say BrV what does it mean ?
median tulip
when they say BrV what does it mean ?
Brutal Vitality
woeful trellis
to trinket totem
grave wedge
sorry dont mean to side jack this topic but that totems sick af. And im thinking of going after it would you take that or Rumbling ruby both heroic ilvl
limpid anchor
@strong forum where did they say that about 1 spark every 2 weeks ?
jagged pier
the drop rate we think will be around that
median tulip
I have a trinket problem: I have All-Totem, Rumbling Ruby and Windscar Whetstone, and can only equip 2 of them
tacit widget
how much haste should i Aim for?
severe fractal
x2
novel shore
do you ever take heavy repercussions in m+
craggy pilot
do you ever take heavy repercussions in m+
always
lofty widget
that's default pick
cold pollen
do fireling proc bolster in RLP ?
chilly brook
do you ever take heavy repercussions in m+
Do you uhhhh not look at the guides?
lofty widget
do fireling proc bolster in RLP ?
no
median tulip
how much haste should i Aim for?
You don't really aim for any amount; 20% is (IMO) the absolute minimum viable, and 30% feels a lot better, but anything is good, really
novel shore
Do you uhhhh not look at the guides?
no, i have 3 alts, i try.
craggy pilot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5qfKqjpoDQs6hwxcGghLX6
what would i take here? 🤔
shoulder is higher ilvl, but chest sims higher...
415 chest + 405 shoulder
402 chest + 418 shoulder
im pretty sure my best option is 418 gloves => CC tier
chilly brook
no, i have 3 alts, i try.
It doesn’t take very long
And it answers questions like that
Far faster to just import the talent build than ask a question trying to talent it out yourself lol
novel shore
relax.
tacit widget
You don't really aim for any amount; 20% is (IMO) the absolute minimum viable, a...
thanks for the help!
chilly brook
I’m very relaxed
But also the discord is a supplement to the guides not a replacement
median tulip
thanks for the help!
You're generally going to want to max your Strength by equipping your highest ilvl in all situations, regardless
tacit widget
thats for sure but im at a point where i just min max substats even more now since sparks can drop
chilly brook
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5qfKqjpoDQs6hwxcGghLX6
what would i take...
Shoulder maybe, I mean honestly up to you at that point
median tulip
thats for sure but im at a point where i just min max substats even more now sin...
Don't overdo the minmaxing for specific stats; you do need to have some of even the "bad" stats. I find it feels most comfortable with a rough ration of around 3:2:1:1 Haste:Crit:Mastery:Vers
drifting socket
is web blast from sennarth blockable?
chilly brook
I don’t think you’d go horribly wrong either way they’re both large ilvl upgrades
craggy pilot
Shoulder maybe, I mean honestly up to you at that point
ye it looks like the Chest is simming higher, but the Shoulder might be the long term 🤔
chilly brook
Makes sense
mighty crater
How good is the Brood Absorb ring?
chilly brook
Chest is a higher stat budget
mighty crater
Assuming we make belt to proc it
torpid fiber
are crafting orders still disappearing along with the mats?
craggy pilot
Chest is a higher stat budget
ye might be why it sims higher 🤔
mighty valley
But also the discord is a supplement to the guides not a replacement
in fairness half the questions we get here are stuff like "isn't this trinket good, it's on the arbitrary wowhead 'bis' list"
strong forum
<@192743144276623360> where did they say that about 1 spark every 2 weeks ?
That was the assumption, but apparently dirt has a fucking high droprate of them
cloud umbra
is it 5 pieces of worn crafted gear max?
strong forum
You can wear as much as you want
cloud umbra
ok. I saw that article wow posted last july stating itll be 5 max, but didn't know if it was ever going to be implemented
craggy pilot
You can wear as much as you want
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vuYgLmFehY3o9FFhobMfEV
picked my vault Nome
now time to clear HC
strong forum
Noice
craggy pilot
hopefully Kurog is nice to me
412 ilvl
and i can upgrade my Whetstone a bit more this week 😄
strong forum
I legit need nothing now from raid besides grieftorch and maybe broodkeeper ring
craggy pilot
I legit need nothing now from raid besides grieftorch and *maybe* broodkeeper ri...
from HC?
strong forum
Ye
strong forum
Cuz it is
craggy pilot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wrk2wmaoyHySpWEkYpzNBC
im so confused with this Wrist simming... Does the engi wrist stats not sim correctly?
cant be right that a 411 wrist is 2.1% better than my 418 just cus of 290 crit...
same with the 402 BOE simming 1.9% higher 🤔
rose pilot
is boon good as tank in m+?
strong forum
If you don't plan it's use, you can very easily get killed using boon
torn pebble
anyone got the ruby trinket / what whelp did you train>?
proud dock
can the frostfire belt procs on more than 1 target simultaneously?
strong forum
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wrk2wmaoyHySpWEkYpzNBC
im so confused wi...
That does seem off indeed
craggy pilot
That does seem off indeed
even Nome agrees 🙏
strong forum
Besides being a spicy trinket, boon does absolute bonkers aoe dmg
craggy pilot
maybe i should just recraft my Engi wrist with pure Crit 🤣
but that would be dogshit in Arms 🤔
simming 2.5% better with pure crit
i did a dumdum
picked 418 > 415 in vault
and now i still have 3 set and not 4 set
🤦
but currently only playing M+ on warrior anyway
doing entire raid on my Enha shaman
also today i learned i can do shit during Boon 🤣
thought it would stun
strong forum
Nah
It just pulses dmg around you and roots you
But it's not a stun or channel or anything
craggy pilot
lul
severe fractal
what do you guys think about my stats, are they well distributed ?
craggy pilot
can you attack during bubble? 🤔
slim dove
yes
median tulip
what do you guys think about my stats, are they well distributed ?
That's a lot of Vers
swift parrot
what do you guys think about my stats, are they well distributed ?
i think that is a lot of vers
median tulip
you must have... 3.5k vers rating?
severe fractal
4250
i must admit i just followed pawns advice
vers = better for tanks
but now i feel my damage is low compared to other tanks during raids
median tulip
Vers is ok, but 4250 is just slightly overdoing it IMO
warm plinth
Pawn is garbage. Vers is not something you should stack.
median tulip
By which I mean I have about 1600
daring barn
Does anyone take Bloodborne for raid? Seems like it would be good but idk what to drop for it. Was thinking Instigate
severe fractal
i see the error of my ways then i have just 1500 crit
median tulip
Tier > iLvl > Haste > Crit > Vers=Mast
median tulip
I have found a 3:2:1:1 ratio of the secondaries to be the most comfortable array
chilly brook
and rethinking how i can get dem stats more balanced
Who cares about stat balance
Just equip ilvl
Press buttons better
Profit
cyan lichen
Hello, floks... I have a trinket dilema... I´ve been very unlucky on drops.
I have:
Dec of Flame 376
Battle Scared Scale 372
Rub Whlep Scare (+1 ST)
Burgeoning Seed
Wich 2 do you think its a better combo?
severe fractal
ok
craggy pilot
Hello, floks... I have a trinket dilema... I´ve been very unlucky on drops.
I ha...
idk about BSS, but i would probably go Ruby+Decoration
what ilvl is your Ruby?
cyan lichen
392
torpid junco
been hearing sparks are dropping from raid and dungs?
tacit widget
what stat should i let lariat procc for haste or crit?
median tulip
Hello, floks... I have a trinket dilema... I´ve been very unlucky on drops.
I ha...
Got the ring from Eranog? DoF & Whelp
alpine solar
Is it possible to tank mythic raid at 395 or should I wait till atleast 400
steel mauve
I did fine at 395
alpine solar
Gotcha ok cool
steel mauve
The only time i wasnt was when i did the dumb and kept standing in lava pools on eranog to interrupt the add instead of letting our 60 shamans do it
But thats what defensives are for, to get away with shit 😉
compact anvil
what do you guys think is better overall, sophic devotion or frozen devotion, i don't need to worry about surviving as much, just tryna pump
split stratus
The goto phial for M+ damage output is Glacial Fury ?
wary ivy
What’s the command for the sim sheet?
gilded tendon
median tulip
what do you guys think is better overall, sophic devotion or frozen devotion, i ...
I believe Sophic will outperform Frozen as gear increases
strong forum
There we go
You can just sim enchants
Frozen seems to still pump even at 415 ilvl
But I like sophic more idk
torpid fiber
can you put armor spikes and food buff on shield?
craggy pilot
no
strong forum
Only 1 or the other
daring barn
Just simmed them both and frozen was 300dps higher on a craft 418 mace
craggy pilot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aXrtij2vMrGMPCF9LQeX46
why does some of the items show - instead of a % up or down?
like Allied Wrist, does it not know how to sim it? 🤔
slim dove
frog skip a must for this week in azure vault?
cba 10x bolstered frogs, but bolstered furies are also ass
split stratus
Any idea why Phial of the Eye in the Storm is not simmed on https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/protection/phials/castingpatchwerk5 ?
How does it compare to Glacial Fury in M+ ?
strong forum
Eye in the storm is our best aoe phial
split stratus
Damned I just stacked like 200 Glacial Fury kek
pallid quiver
Glacial Fury does more in ST
split stratus
Nice I'll keep them for next week then, thanks
pallid quiver
I perma use Glacial Fury to get bosses down faster because pugs like to commit suicide on bosses
Wisespeaker Mari got hands
His laser beam is so very unpredictable, can't ever tell where it's going to go next smh
strong forum
You can't go wrong with glacial fury dw
pallid quiver
And Dora at the end of AA? Literally impossible, plz understand poor dps and heals
They aren't invincible like we are
split stratus
kek thanks guys
mighty valley
Seriously? I've never seen a last boss AA wipe
pallid quiver
Oh, I've never wiped
sick sentinel
strong forum
Yes, and let's keep it that way
pallid quiver
But the entire rest of the party has died almost every AA key I've had
strong forum
Grats
mighty valley
yogi with a boon... what will he do
strong forum
Boon is bis aoe pad trinket
But it roots you in place for 10seconds when you use it
So use with caution
sick sentinel
prisma crane
its really good on the tree boss in AA, just use immediately after the second set of roots spawn
easy threat and dmg
strong forum
Looking pretty sexy
sick sentinel
3m cd tho
pine hatch
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aXrtij2vMrGMPCF9LQeX46
why does some of t...
you have 2 embellished pieces on already so it skips simming other embellishments
craggy pilot
you have 2 embellished pieces on already so it skips simming other embellishment...
ah makes sense
looks like i cant craft anything that makes any sense
i could 402 -> 418 cloak for 0.5% dps 🤔
but maybe ill just save for 418 2h wep
sick sentinel
i still enjoy my valarjar trinket, but this one is good too
woeful trellis
craggy pilot
Windnarbenschleifstein 🤣
mighty crater
WINDNARBENSCHLEIFSTEIN
sick sentinel
https://tenor.com/view/agk-angry-german-kid-german-kid-gif-22327274
nome after 3 rings vau lt
strong forum
WINDNARBENSCHLEIFSTEIN
Windscarwhetstone
prisma crane
obviously i know what it is in english but its fun to see the literal translations
strong forum
1-1 exact same word
craggy pilot
1-1 exact same word
but why no space 🤣
strong forum
Bouttaintimidateyouboy
prisma crane
1+1* exact same word 😉
strong forum
1+1* exact same word 😉
1 to 1
sick sentinel
you know what the german word for spy is? spion, attention is achtung, life is leben
thats about the most i know
urban bane
Bouttaintimidateyouboy
do what to my what?
urban bane
prisma crane
i know what you meant by 1-1
rancid iris
that 'bout taint imidate you boy''
craggy pilot
when im in melee on warrior, and click a spell, it auto targets a nearby enemy. But when i do it on my evoker it doesnt 🤔
is there any way to do that in a macro maybe?
prisma crane
welcome to caster shit
craggy pilot
welcome to caster shit
😢:
prisma crane
also, only works on warr for stuff that doesnt require a target afaik
cant SS and do it
so just use an aoe
craggy pilot
pretty sure if you SS without a target, you get one
prisma crane
you could probably use that action targeting though
split stratus
On TJS 3rd boss let's say the P2 is taking to long and I'm stuck between 2 puddlesm it's better to walk on it than taking the kick itself, right ?
prisma crane
ooooh weeee, if anyone still has auto attack bound...
mighty valley
you could probably macro something but when i play casters i just instinctively slap tab-spell hotkey
prisma crane
On TJS 3rd boss let's say the P2 is taking to long and I'm stuck between 2 puddl...
leap
prisma crane
you could probably macro something but when i play casters i just instinctively ...
yea same, but gets me in trouble sometimes....
heady stratus
guys how can I get this cds with timers for raid? is a wa?
mighty valley
oh absolutely, but those are comedy moments
prisma crane
pugs dont appear to have the same sense of humor lol
i just make sure to play with a hunter
everyone blames the hunter
strong forum
guys how can I get this cds with timers for raid? is a wa?
It's method raid tools
prisma crane
anyone else still call it ERT?
strong forum
And you gotta write them yourself
heady stratus
It's method raid tools
Yeah I use the note, but the timers ?
prisma crane
so happy they kept /ert working
strong forum
Custom setup
woeful trellis
whats the play this week AA with lust etc
strong forum
Surely with playing around you can find it
prisma crane
i'd assume all of tree room again
woeful trellis
yeah i would lust bridge pull
strong forum
So you can Lust first pull, then Lust bird then Lust last boss?
woeful trellis
yeah or bigpull before last boss
sick sentinel
What are the best talents for Raid now?
tulip egret
So all the pieces I’ve been crafting at 418 with haste verse has been wrong ? 😵
proud dock
they fixed LOS tech on vex right?
strong forum
What are the best talents for Raid now?
The same as they've always been
strong forum
So all the pieces I’ve been crafting at 418 with haste verse has been wrong ? 😵
No it's not wrong
severe fractal
modest gulch
I need a macro resource if anyone has something, I have too many buttons to press.
grim grotto
warm plinth
gear compare
strong forum
I need a macro resource if anyone has something, I have too many buttons to pres...
Can't help you there buddy
We don't have any macros that reduce keybinds
prisma crane
on a related note
anyone have a decent macro for interrupt to focus and to just work normal if no focus?
i know they're out there im just shit at writing them
modest gulch
function keys are already stretching it. 12345qezxcrfv + modifier for second row
prisma crane
sick of relying on my quick selecting on 100 moving nameplates lmao
potent anvil
So you can Lust first pull, then Lust bird then Lust last boss?
I still do Dragon second and bird last, while also skipping birds or doing them with boss. But, uh... that's my hidden tech route 
modest gulch
sick of relying on my quick selecting on 100 moving nameplates lmao
.
/cast [@focus] Pummel
/cast Pummel
strong forum
I still do Dragon second and bird last, while also skipping birds or doing them ...
Yeah well, just you wait until mdi
craggy pilot
function keys are already stretching it. 12345qezxcrfv + modifier for second ro...
you can pust your stances in the same macro
severe fractal
I need a macro resource if anyone has something, I have too many buttons to pres...
#showtooltip Recklessness
/use Avatar
/use Blood Fury
/use Berserking
/use Ancestral Call
/use 13
/use 14
strong forum
function keys are already stretching it. 12345qezxcrfv + modifier for second ro...
Sounds about right, I use 45 keybinds
modest gulch
you can pust your stances in the same macro
Having trouble with that because if I hit the macro a second time it cancels the stance
severe fractal
literally uses all your shit
prisma crane
.
/cast [@focus] Pummel
/cast Pummel
thanks, i was looking for one that works more like an if/then macro, but that one should at least work for now
strong forum
Having trouble with that because if I hit the macro a second time it cancels the...
Use the one from pins
craggy pilot
Having trouble with that because if I hit the macro a second time it cancels the...
use the one in the pins
also where is your Avatar? 😄
fallow nova
Question - if set bonus is about to fall off in an aoe situation and thunderclap is off cd, do you prioritize revenge or thunderclap?
craggy pilot
and demo shout
craggy pilot
Question - if set bonus is about to fall off in an aoe situation and thunderclap...
i would TC
modest gulch
thanks, i was looking for one that works more like an if/then macro, but that on...
it will always hit your focus target if it exists and obviously can't cast twice, but the logic isn't explicit.
potent anvil
Yeah well, just you wait until mdi
I'm hoping academy is in time trials tbh. This is what it looked like when I did it for the first time. But its way faster now
craggy pilot
since it gives revenge
prisma crane
it will always hit your focus target if it exists and obviously can't cast twice...
yea, makes sense, ty
craggy pilot
it will always hit your focus target if it exists and obviously can't cast twice...
wait i need this holy shit
fallow nova
since it gives revenge
Makes sense
craggy pilot
and ill do a mousebutton @finite dirgeover /focus macro
strong forum
I'm hoping academy is in time trials tbh. This is what it looked like when I did...
Not even +3 smh
prisma crane
and ill do a mousebutton <@256603980623380488>over /focus macro
yea, with how hectic random shit gets, especially on weeks like last wk w/ explosive it's pretty nice to have
inland mesa
Wait I thought you had to do all 3 bosses to get to dragon o.O
solar shadow
ok do you take the trinket or the ring
craggy pilot
yea, with how hectic random shit gets, especially on weeks like last wk w/ explo...
ye but also on pretty much all packs
severe fractal
trink
craggy pilot
where theres a focus target, and a kick target
severe fractal
ring can get from m+
prisma crane
where theres a focus target, and a kick target
mhm
split stratus
Just to be sure, skittish, necrotic and teaming are not a thing anymore, right ?
potent anvil
Not even +3 smh
And this is what I mean about skipping the wind ele and doing crawth with birds
astral crystal
how h o w
potent anvil
So uh.. I got some good tech
craggy pilot
And this is what I mean about skipping the wind ele and doing crawth with birds
what?
the
fuck
astral crystal
share or report
craggy pilot
is it giga bug or what?
mighty valley
is this... insane on bolstering week
potent anvil
My MDI route.. cant share atm or it'l get fixed
potent anvil
Not even m0
dusk tendon
hey guys, as im trying to learn rn im trying to get a weak aura that would announce in my guilde chat (to not spam pple) what spell i reflect but with a clickable spell ID int he message, anyone has smth like that ?
astral crystal
robust lark
Ppl were talking about them earlier...so I bit the bullet. Logitech g600 mmo mouse is on sale for $36 on Amazon just saying.
prisma crane
congrats!
i would say im not a fan of logitech anymore, but of all their mice that's the one ive had the least issues with and the price isnt outrageous anymore
will take some time to get used to, this is certain, but you'll get it
potent anvil
is it giga bug or what?
Kind of a bug. There are just event checks that can be bypassed. Doesnt require some m0 prep.
prisma crane
can slowly add binds to it as you get comfortable with others
robust lark
I wanted the Corsair but this is half the price and I've already got all other Logitech peripherals lol
solar shadow
ngl logitech gpro wireless is goated cant tell me otherwise
modest gulch
use the one in the pins
They really don't eliminate any buttons though.
split stratus
502 hero is the real MVP
robust lark
Yes
prisma crane
yea i used to be crazy into logitech until i've had 2 product failures in under a year and their GHUB software might be the worse thing ive ever used
craggy pilot
They really don't eliminate any buttons though.
? wdym?
damn playing DPS evoker is weird when used to Warrior & Melee
astral crystal
Kind of a bug. There are just event checks that can be bypassed. Doesnt require ...
does it have anything to do with doing dragon before bird?
craggy pilot
cant even spellqueue my main dmg ability cus its channeled :>
potent anvil
does it have anything to do with doing dragon before bird?
Nope. That's another skip you can do entirely lol
prisma crane
cant even spellqueue my main dmg ability cus its channeled :>
in the little time ive used my evoker that alone is the hardest thing to adjust to
its why i like my ele, lots of instants and spam casts, i can handle that
craggy pilot
every time i start a pack, i do Flame Breath into Eternity Surge, and i never have a target and i just spam click Eternity Surge with nothing happening 🤣
craggy pilot
its why i like my ele, lots of instants and spam casts, i can handle that
also ele has Spiritual Walk or whatever
which you can cast during cast
prisma crane
yea
potent anvil
does it have anything to do with doing dragon before bird?
The route idea pretty much has good lust timings. At least when I tried it. Need to actually do it in time trials if academy is one of the dungeons.
craggy pilot
would fix so much
craggy pilot
anyone know if i can do tab-target in a macro?
modest gulch
? wdym?
My initial problem is I have too many keybinds, and I'm trying to better manage stance to maximize dps. So I guess I eliminated one button with the stance macro,
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
prisma crane
no clue why demo has to be on the gcd
craggy pilot
My initial problem is I have too many keybinds, and I'm trying to better manage ...
do you want help with reducing the keybinds or? 🤔
prisma crane
someone mentioned similar items with shift modifiers and i liked that, like charge and shift charge to shield charge
craggy pilot
someone mentioned similar items with shift modifiers and i liked that, like char...
yes
modest gulch
I'd like to do a bunch of stuff like this where, before casting specific abilities I make sure I'm in a particular stance.
#showtooltip Shield Wall
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance
/cast Shield Wall
prisma crane
also, dont pass on the scroll wheel
craggy pilot
I'd like to do a bunch of stuff like this where, before casting specific abiliti...
no
that is bad
prisma crane
i have 9 things on my scroll wheel lmao
mighty valley
i don't see the benefit of the mod keybind macros over just having two keybinds, can anyone enlighten me
prisma crane
i would assume to reduce bar bloat but that's about it
craggy pilot
i don't see the benefit of the mod keybind macros over just having two keybinds,...
i did it back in the day with Slam/Whirlwind, when i dont need to see the CD of either spell
but for Prot i dont
mighty valley
you need to see the two CDs anyway right?
prisma crane
not always, but yea, its why i have intervene on my bars but don't have it bound
i wanna see it
modest gulch
that is bad
could you tell me why, sorry its not obvious to me other than if I am currently in defensive stance with that macro it drops me out of defensive stance.
prisma crane
because you dont always need D stance when you shield wall
craggy pilot
could you tell me why, sorry its not obvious to me other than if I am currently ...
when you Shield Wall, you are already almost unkillable, so dont need to be in DStance also
its like putting 2 bandaids on a wound
modest gulch
when you Shield Wall, you are already almost unkillable, so dont need to be in D...
Counter point. If you're going to use Shield Wall why wouldn't you want to maximize DR? Example is Heroic Raz where the more damage you take the more damage the raid takes.
I could see it being overkill for M+ low keys
craggy pilot
then in that case you press both buttons
prisma crane
^
craggy pilot
but usually on a pack in M+, if you pop Shield Wall, you survive it just fine
and do more dmg
prisma crane
you're not technically wrong Kan, it's just giving up control in favor of ease
and i would prefer control
plus most of us are dps whores, D stance we use begrudgingly when we need to
naive panther
I only pop both if needed.
robust lark
They yelled at me about this earlier I've swapped out of defensive stance for like 5 minutes total since Christmas and now have to change my evil ways.
modest gulch
I have too many buttons I'm maxed out on control, and I'm trying to automate a little bit.
I'm in the same boat Sham, my parses are shit because I never used battle stance
I'm trying to manage it
robust lark
We have been doing it wrong then
modest gulch
yea
prisma crane
i use D stance so little that i dont even have it bound lmao
lavish barn
hi all does anybody have a weakaura that announces the linked spell in chat that you reflect?
prisma crane
i click that shit like it's 2005
craggy pilot
hi all does anybody have a weakaura that announces the linked spell in chat that...
i have it gimme a sec bro 🙂
modest gulch
that is crazy man, I'm only currently only doing like +17s and Heroic Raz + 2 mythic bosses and I am honestly terrified of not being in defensive stance haha
prisma crane
i think it's false safety
lavish barn
i have it gimme a sec bro 🙂
thanks would be great
prisma crane
99% of the time you dont need it and just think you do
woeful reef
so you just roll battle stance all the time in m+ or only when youre popping sw?
prisma crane
you'll learn when you do though
modest gulch
yea it feels like a mental block
robust lark
I edited the weak auras for tracking shield block and ignore pain to give audible queues when the auras hide (when sb and ip drop off) and it's helped me a lot maintaining my uptime on both the last day. Hearing "iiiidot" when I let shield block drop is motivating
prisma crane
so you just roll battle stance all the time in m+ or only when youre popping sw?
B stance almost all the time
pretty much only D stance on something like Crawth or 3rd boss in TJS
craggy pilot
so you just roll battle stance all the time in m+ or only when youre popping sw?
all the time
radiant laurel
Or last pack in TJS after you get aggro
woeful reef
any trash packs you d stance on or just roll out
patent scroll
The one time I swapped to D stance in M+ was for 21 Hyrja beam when I was unsure how hard it would hit
modest gulch
trying to think of an ability that I do not use on bosses that I could spam as a substitute for a battle stance confirmation key... like hamstring maybe?
prisma crane
last pack you just reflect first, then you can SW if you want
then you can spell block
and most of the shit is dead by then
patent scroll
But like, Battle and just use your CDs if you actually need to
craggy pilot
thanks would be great
prisma crane
trying to think of an ability that I do not use on bosses that I could spam as a...
unless you pvp you dont need hamstring
craggy pilot
trying to think of an ability that I do not use on bosses that I could spam as a...
confirmation key? what?
modest gulch
I use it to prevent the add that spawns in SBG from moving away too far and into the tombstones on the ground when the boss isolates you to kill your add, not a very important use case but its all I can think of
robust lark
I have my stance swap macro bound to 2.
craggy pilot
unless you pvp you dont need hamstring
i hamstring the add on 1st boss Nokhud 🤔
and 1st boss SMBG
prisma crane
he wants something to auto b stance because he's auto d stancing
plush briar
https://gyazo.com/66752035144e21edb6402ae35582c637
worth picking up more vers making them all more balanced or just keep sending the haste lol
craggy pilot
he wants something to auto b stance because he's auto d stancing
lul
prisma crane
i hamstring the add on 1st boss Nokhud 🤔
i just shield charge it and storm bolt if needed
craggy pilot
i have a WA that rotates when im in Dstance
lavish barn
https://wago.io/VmO_GaXE_
thanks but this one only announces the name of the spell right? it doesn't link it in chat
the description etc
modest gulch
Neilsen, what I mean by confirmation key is a key I can press... which activate another ability... but would also shift me into Battle Stance if I happen to not already be in battle stance... but would serve its other function also
craggy pilot
thanks but this one only announces the name of the spell right? it doesn't link ...
it does
prisma crane
https://gyazo.com/66752035144e21edb6402ae35582c637
worth picking up more vers ma...
haste baby, haste
craggy pilot
thanks but this one only announces the name of the spell right? it doesn't link ...
this one is good also
shows how much dmg you reflected
modest gulch
Example:
#showtooltip Shield Wall
/cast [stance:1]!Battle Stance
/cast Hamstring (OR ANY ABILITY)
plush briar
haste baby, haste
i figured haha ❤️
craggy pilot
Neilsen, what I mean by confirmation key is a key I can press... which activate ...
sounds kinda dumb also tbh
just click the stance key?
modest gulch
I'm running out of keybinds lol
craggy pilot
why does it need to use a global?
prisma crane
Example:
#showtooltip Shield Wall
/cast [stance:1]!Battle Stance
/cast Hamstrin...
you're trying very hard to fix a problem you've created in teh first place
modest gulch
sounds about right
urban bane
what is that macro lmao
potent fulcrum
Hey, it might be a stupid question but I have nowhere to ask. Im kind of handicapped and can't really press buttons efficiently. My biggest issue when playing prot war is pressing Ignore Pain and Shield Block separately. Is there a way I can macro it to some other spell and not lose too much or something similar?
prisma crane
if im honest, you're probably better off just always sitting B stance and just do like i do and click D stance the few times you've learned you might need it
craggy pilot
sounds about right
these are my keybindings
prisma crane
like P2 3rd boss TJS or for Crawth, etc
craggy pilot
35 keybindings
doesnt rly feel that bad tbh
but i have stuff like Kick on G, panda kick on Shift+G
modest gulch
ok I'm just not thinking about this correctly then. I need an additional modifier to hit that number reliably.
fading tide
the wowhead m+ guide is so much different from the previous one
craggy pilot
ok I'm just not thinking about this correctly then. I need an additional modifi...
i use Ctrl, and Shift
modest gulch
right now I only use ctrl
craggy pilot
and i have Victory Strike bound into my Charge
modest gulch
so 26 total, + F1 through F4
frosty mango
Hey, it might be a stupid question but I have nowhere to ask. Im kind of handica...
If you're not handicapped in a way that prevents the effective use of your feet, look into usb foot pedals. About 30 bucks and can open up a lot of options for you
round pendant
Is there some tips I can get to avoid getting poopoo dps players in my pugs?
So far it's: avoid hunters
craggy pilot
i use 1-6
Ctrl + Shift
QERGTY FVZX ½ (might be tilde for you)
frosty mango
Is there some tips I can get to avoid getting poopoo dps players in my pugs?
What key level?
craggy pilot
and F1 F2 F3
round pendant
What key level?
I'm trying to get my rating to 2k so around 15s
13-15
is all I really wanna do rn but seriously the dps just throw
had a CoS run where some warrior just kept standing in all the frontals
prisma crane
most do yes
woeful reef
So far it's: avoid hunters
I dont understand but i have had a lot of hunters that perform way worse than they should with their rating and ilvl, its by far the biggest standout
round pendant
10 deaths to him, mis timed by not even joking, 16 seconds
frosty mango
I'm trying to get my rating to 2k so around 15s
At this point in the season, sub 2k players at 13-15 keys are going to be a big crapshoot. Unless you wanna look every one of them up, there's not a whole lot you can do
prisma crane
i have a 421 Whetstone if it helps
frosty mango
I would go as far as to say you aren't gonna find many solid players sub 16, since that's what drops concentrated essences and the vast majority of "good" players arent running anything below that
dusky ether
guys should I go for the frostfire belt or the helm?
prisma crane
also fwiw CoS or SMBG you might as well take about 4 levels off the key, since its the ones the players who know they arent that great will sign up for the most
dusky ether
for my second embelishment
prisma crane
guys should I go for the frostfire belt or the helm?
its in the pins, but belt gives you options with the ring
plus its not a tier slot
woeful trellis
Windnarbenschleifstein! Pog 🙌
frosty mango
also fwiw CoS or SMBG you might as well take about 4 levels off the key, since i...
+1 this. Also as a solid tank you can carry these keys largely yourself
pallid quiver
ive done my time in cos, i got whetstone and the ring
craggy pilot
so 26 total, + F1 through F4
from the screenshot it looks like you have 36
round pendant
Yeah CoS is really easy but not when dps are constantly throwing themselves in fire AND doing shit dps at the same time
craggy pilot
should be more than enough tbh
it looks like you have a LOT of grey talents bound to random shit
dusky ether
CoS took me a while to get the pulls for the 2nd boss right
round pendant
I accepted a 2.2k guy and he was god awful AND toxic
dusky ether
I was going to the docks for trash but found someone always pulls
so was just wasting time getting extra %
craggy pilot
im pretty sure he doesnt spawn on the same spot
dusky ether
and that enforcer spawn I found if I pulled the boss right back to that open door
he can spawn on the same spot
it's wiped me too lol
modest gulch
from the screenshot it looks like you have 36
yea I need to get dumb shit off there like fishing
craggy pilot
pretty sure the problem is if you pull the bottom enforcer, to the top enforcer
the top enforcer can spawn after
thats what i did in the start
woeful trellis
Theirs a wa for next enforcer I don’t find it rn
craggy pilot
now if i just have the bottom enforcer in the bottom, i never have issues
like this
round pendant
I should probably figure my routes out rather than winging it, even tho I generally end up near the final boss with around 100% count anyway
when I watch a video people just do the same shit as me anyway
warm plinth
All the dungeons this expansion are pretty linear
frosty mango
For cos it's largely irrelevant
warm plinth
You can literally press W through any dungeon this season and get full count I'm pretty sure.
modest gulch
All the dungeons this expansion are pretty linear
Agree, I have zero routes downloaded... but I'm only doing +16/17 atm
round pendant
I was doing baby pulls today because people were dying and it's bolstering and the guy blames my route, not the fact he died 3 times on the same pack at the start of CoS lmao
craggy pilot
just pull the dragons to fix % 😄
frosty mango
You can pull literally only what's in front of you and then before second boss you can just grab whatever to fill %
round pendant
I've not had any % issues outside of HoV tbh
frosty mango
HoV and AV are the only dungeons where route and pack size can really screw you
robust lark
Do you avoid the first big guy that goes left and right right after first boss in HOV? Or pull him for %
frosty mango
HoV timer is almost impossible unless you do one specific route with a lot of heavy pulls
frosty mango
Do you avoid the first big guy that goes left and right right after first boss i...
Avoid him, go right and drag that pack up the stairs into the next pack
slim dove
HoV timer is almost impossible unless you do one specific route with a lot of he...
its a joke after nerfs.
modest gulch
ok here is a decent one, anyone please feel free to give feedback.
#showtooltip Ravager
/cast [@cursor] Ravager
/cast Avatar
/use 13
Ravager, 1.5m cd
Avatar, 1.5m cd
Decoration of Flame, 2m cd
Specifically for aoe pulls in M+
robust lark
Cool that's what I usually do. I get hunter pack in Fenrir side but don't know if I should be avoiding it too
frosty mango
HoV now you can save a lot of time by double pulling worgs
Where you couldnt before
robust lark
Yeah nice true
round pendant
I haven't done HoV this week but
is that triple pack at the start scary af now?
with bolstering
robust lark
I got it on a 15 last week in time with no struggle so I think I should be fine this week hopefully
round pendant
I think HoV timing was only an issue past like 17 tbh
slim dove
the tankbuster was removed.
round pendant
I would do so many dungeons if I didn't get burnt by braindead puggers every time
slim dove
they still leap.
frosty mango
No more ferocious bite oneshotting dps
round pendant
Is it normal for a dps to sim literally 3k more dps than me at the same ilvl lmao
frosty mango
bite never targetted dps
A lot of dps would get trucked by it because they'd cc them after leap then stand there
warm plinth
ok here is a decent one, anyone please feel free to give feedback.
#showtooltip...
Avatar is a BASE CD of 1.5 minutes. It is reduced by Anger Management to much shorter than that.
frosty mango
So it would start wrecking closest melee
frosty mango
if your dps are rooting wolves after leap in 20s
I mean, still gotta tell people not to stun dominators in smbg 20+
modest gulch
Avatar is a BASE CD of 1.5 minutes. It is reduced by Anger Management to much s...
Do you think it would be wise to keep it on CD or wait and use it to burst down an aoe pull?
frosty mango
Alas here we are, lol
alpine solar
is whelp shell any good for us?
mighty valley
s'ok
frosty mango
"I will hold my interrupt for the dominator"
robust lark
Lol
prisma crane
those will be the only times they interrupt in a dungeon btw
frosty mango
I feel this. I'll wait until the very end and yet they will kick it in the last .5 seconds
Next 18 casts will go off
modest gulch
wouldn't the solution to be to use Method Raid Tools and just track their interrupt cooldowns?
only use SR when their shit is on cd
void marten
boy i feel strong now
odd tree
I run mostly with a group of friends and those clowns will still kick when I call spell reflect
modest gulch
Nice pyke holy fuck bro
void marten
also i suggest dirt farming for spark
maybe i got very lucky but i got a spark in 15 minutes
modest gulch
bois don't tell anyone else
warm plinth
Do you think it would be wise to keep it on CD or wait and use it to burst down ...
You can't reduce the CD of Avatar if you don't keep it on CD.
robust lark
I told my guild about world boss 50% progress thing and bliz patched it 20 minutes later, one of them is a snitch
void marten
but i think even without raid rings, frostfire is better than shield of hearth
read my mind tbh
modest gulch
Are you using the companion wrists pyke?
frosty mango
i can probably get even higher ilvl if i drop belt and equip shield
That chest trolling you bro
modest gulch
I've used these so fucking much but I pug a lot and have to compensate for shit players
void marten
Are you using the companion wrists pyke?
no
void marten
Are you using the companion wrists pyke?
but i'll get engi wrists
modest gulch
what are those?
void marten
That chest trolling you bro
agree
modest gulch
I dropped the tier chest for dathea, is that not considered the best play in terms of stats? Haste/Vers?
modest gulch
Thanks Nielsen, I just wrote that ❤️
void marten
I dropped the tier chest for dathea, is that not considered the best play in ter...
hands are worst
i drop them for those
feral dune
also i suggest dirt farming for spark
wait like the sparks for crafting?
regal star
Hey do we change any talents for new patch?
void marten
but tbh my trinkets are garbage
restive crown
what's the best trinkets for raiding/m+? is the wowhead trinket grading accurate?
void marten
i couldnt get a whetstone or grieftorch
modest gulch
lol when I searched goldsteel
UBRS is back on the menu I guess... in all seriousness where do those drop?
void marten
sbg
modest gulch
ty
void marten
what's the best trinkets for raiding/m+? is the wowhead trinket grading accurate...
manic grieftorch/whetstone for offense(99% of the time), all-totem for mixed, whispering incarnate is also decent if your raid needs versa buff
feel free to correct if anyone disagrees
modest gulch
bout to test out these macros in a NO+17
craggy pilot
bout to test out these macros in a NO+17
did you fix your keybinds?
modest gulch
some of them, it's a constant working progress imo
harder better faster stronger lfg
craggy pilot
try to send your screenshot again plz
hot rover
sorry if its been asked a bunch, but is there updated imports somewhere?
for talent builds
hot rover
wowhead raz build was out of date
craggy pilot
main difference from wowhead is dont run Thunderlord
dense coral
What should i update first with my first concentrated infusion. Weapon/ Shield / Belt
craggy pilot
wowhead raz build was out of date
how so?
craggy pilot
What should i update first with my first concentrated infusion. Weapon/ Shield ...
shield
hot rover
the copy gave me an error saying it was out of date
craggy pilot
the copy gave me an error saying it was out of date
ah probably because of the Avatar change 😒
sick sentinel
oh blizzard
dense coral
Ty
craggy pilot
the copy gave me an error saying it was out of date
just click the talent tree view inside wowhead, and copy it over by looking at it
main thing from wowhead talents is change Thunderlord to Battering Ram
and ur good
fading tide
just click the talent tree view inside wowhead, and copy it over by looking at i...
thats for m+?
safe mango
It's interesting that we are taking battering ram instead of thunderlord. I would have thought better availability of a defensive like demo shout would be a good thing
Ah nvm
Thought it was m+
craggy pilot
Battering Ram is also good in M+
Thunderlord is kinda bait
the defensive value is small
foggy drift
We using sophic for m+ or frozen ?
shadow furnace
Returning after awhile. What's my best move for grouping ranged up, e.g., moving a caster over to the pack.
craggy pilot
We using sophic for m+ or frozen ?
yes
mighty valley
Battering ram does a lot of things - snap threat, SS resets
craggy pilot
there is arguments for both
safe mango
How come the defensive value is small though?
mighty valley
thunderlord often doesn't even get you additional relevant casts, timing just awkward sometimes
craggy pilot
How come the defensive value is small though?
its 10-15 sec less CD on demo shout, which is only 8sec 20% DR
compared to a 40% uptime on 20% AS+AD
warm plinth
Hey do we change any talents for new patch?
No
safe mango
I'm new to tanking this season so trying to work these types of things out
craggy pilot
I'm new to tanking this season so trying to work these types of things out
you have more than enough Defensive tools already
Demo shout is not a big Defensive CD
use it together with your Dragon Roar
craggy pilot
Demo Shout + Dragon Roar
wait 45 sec
Demo Shout
wait 45 sec
Demo Shout + Dragon Roar
you wont get this if you have Thunderlord
it will desync
safe mango
I guess for almost all circumstances you will have it up for almost every pull in a dungeon
mighty valley
you save it on some boss fights where you need any defensive you can get but mostly you send it on CD for damage
feral dune
how do i get to battering ram everytime i click off thunderlord i get stuck at the place 1 point to move down
craggy pilot
how do i get to battering ram everytime i click off thunderlord i get stuck at t...
take punish, and remove Battle Scarred Veteran
safe mango
You have the middle capstone that's why
craggy pilot
how do i get to battering ram everytime i click off thunderlord i get stuck at t...
also this talent build looks like youre on your way to Temple of the Jade Serpent
feral dune
got it ty ty
feral dune
also this talent build looks like youre on your way to Temple of the Jade Serpen...
cause of spell block?
safe mango
Spell block juicy on some things
craggy pilot
cause of spell block?
spell block and double wall
safe mango
HoV and TJS build isn't it?
mighty valley
yeah, tough as nails + imp wall are more generically powerful if you don't literally need spell block to live
craggy pilot
i run Impenetrable Wall + Armor Spikes on everything other than Temple
but its rly a personal choice i guess
Impenetrable Wall makes ur Shield Wall CD insanely short
feral dune
i don't really know the differences came over from bear main and just picked a random key build off wowhead
steep condor
is allied wrist of companionship good for m+ as well as raid?
warm plinth
Use the build in the pins for keys
craggy pilot
is allied wrist of companionship good for m+ as well as raid?
yes
craggy pilot
yes
free stats
its same same as other embelish
all of them ~1%
Lariat + Allied Wrist means you can go Prot + Arms without swapping
feral dune
this the other side do i need the 1hand spec node?
craggy pilot
this the other side do i need the 1hand spec node?
YES
mighty valley
ditch the point after shockwave
feral dune
wait is it actually troll?
mighty valley
intervene is only particularly useful occasionally
it's nowhere near as good as 1h spec
feral dune
i don't ever use it
craggy pilot
this the other side do i need the 1hand spec node?
also i dont run Intervene, so could put that in Sidearm
