protection

[errant cipher]

that was my thought just wanted input

[craggy pilot]

did someone say something about Guardian druid being omega bugged after 10.0.5? 🤔

or did i dream that

[errant cipher]

250 to upgrade is nice

im just fishiing for rlp or av shield first

[odd tree]

weren't they bugged before?

[craggy pilot]

idk

my guildie is saying Feral is mega bugged

game crashes when he does Vanish

[odd tree]

sounds like a skill issue

[errant cipher]

does the crafted 1h matter at all which one? or just cosmetic

[oak echo]

cosmetic only other than making sure you get a str one lol

[errant cipher]

that would be so sad lol

[urban bane]

i remember when guardian first got its, what was it, a 50% buff? all the cool kids said it was now the best tank

[sonic eagle]

is filial duty bis for M+? 418 in my vault

i can run both seals

[craggy pilot]

are Guardian Druid mega dmg in ST? 🤔 my guildie 10 ilvl lower than me is simming 45k, and me 48k with 410

seems like theyre quite good tbh

[turbid plaza]

does anyone know if the puzzlebox makes us vulnerable as if we were turning our back to the boss or something like that? yesterday I used it while tanking terros mythic and he slapped me for 85% of my hp bar with SB up

[craggy pilot]

you can test it on the target dummy

pop SB, and use the trinket

look in the combat log

[timber terrace]

Channels prevent dodge parries and blocks unless they mention it in the tooltip like chi burst

[daring marlin]

Can't block while casting/channeling.

[timber terrace]

It's the same with grieftorch

[fallen pulsar]

Pro strat is to cast when not maintanking or pop shield wall and channel/cast

[turbid plaza]

makes sense, lol I didnt know

[shy sluice]

do we train aoe dmg proc for the welp?

[fallen pulsar]

St or haste seems to be best

[turbid plaza]

yeah will do that from now on until I get another trinket, I main fury but my guild needed a replace for one of our tanks

[shy sluice]

if you only do m+ st is useless huh , so either go for aoe or haste?

[onyx smelt]

Is belt worth without eranog ring?

[valid heart]

I am wondering the same, currently using armor spike but Wowhead now recommends waist now. Which do you guys use?

[prisma crane]

iirc going aoe is useless regardless, so you're better off going for the ST or the stat buff

but im not sure there's any consensus yet

[fallen pulsar]

Yea, still ~1% dmg which is in line with other embellishments

[left hollow]

So I'm here, and I need some help fixing my UI and stuff.

[timber terrace]

That's a bad take tbh single target is where you gain the most time in m+

[left hollow]

I talked to some of y'all last time If I recall

[valid heart]

Would you recommend it over armor spike?

[fallen pulsar]

I use it, and I dont like armor spikes. So I would. But in general I went for biggest ilvl upgrades with my crafts and belt was a weak slot for me at the time

[prisma crane]

fwiw there's a #ui-addons-manager channel, not trying to ignore you but its more focused there

[left hollow]

mk

[valid heart]

Aight, i will prob craft it then and remove armor spike on shield

thanks

[prisma crane]

that said, please take slam and rend off of your bars as prot

you should never cast slam, and rend is auto applied with tclap

[modern brook]

Sb on 8 is wild also

[fallen pulsar]

I have a seperate hotbar with no keybinds attached to it for slam, ww, and rend. Put it on the corner of my screen. As a memorial for those terrrible buttons

[prisma crane]

you also appear to have bitter immunity, which isnt always bad, but generally rarely, if ever, used, so you may want to consider tweaking your talents

[prisma crane]

could be a mouse button

though mine was on 6 forever

[turbid plaza]

hey, I feel attacked. I use it in 7

its mouse button tho xD

[hybrid aurora]

virtually all my abilities are mouse buttons. Need one hand free at all times.

[reef holly]

Do you have a MMO mouse?

[reef holly]

[amber siren]

[wintry anvil]

Anyone get a graphics glitch where their prot warrior just goes completely invisible?

[fallen pulsar]

I honestly love my mmo mouse

[hardy hamlet]

Uh boys

Am I dumb, or did Avatar have a DR on it before 10.0.5 which it has now lost?

[hybrid aurora]

With an MMO mouse, i could play Lost Ark with one hand. Much more important in that game...

[torn gulch]

my shield is invisible

[fallen pulsar]

I literally would be unable to play without it lmao

[fallen pulsar]

Never did

[reef holly]

Samesies

[fallen pulsar]

Was a beta thing that was removed

[left hollow]

what's that?

[torn gulch]

a mouse with a lot of buttons, mine has 20

[hardy hamlet]

Alright what the fuck I just played 2 months of Prot warrior thinking I have 20% Dr in Avatar

[hybrid aurora]

all your number keys on the mouse

[fallen pulsar]

Rip

[reef holly]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g600-mmo-gaming-mouse.910-002864.html

That’s the one I use

Made the game way better IMO

[fallen pulsar]

I use the corsair scimitar. So i can adjust the buttons location

Makes it more comfy on the thumb

[hybrid aurora]

Naga Andy here

[torn gulch]

i had one but the scroll broke too fast so i changed to a logitech g600

[turbid plaza]

the third clic on the G600 is what makes me unable to switch to another one

[fallen pulsar]

Rip, I moved away from the g600 because it had double click issues

[pliant geyser]

i use the g600 but i messed up the click wheel somehow so now i have to press it really hard

[fallen pulsar]

Like, clicking once always registered as double clicks

[torn gulch]

yea you can do a full modifier to the third click

[hybrid aurora]

yeah, i feel like that stuff can usually be customized

[reef holly]

I mainly use buttons 1-6 with shift and ctrl modifiers for all spells. Mouse buttons for things like taunt/heroic throw/ravager/avatar/all shouts/leap/interrupt/self heal/IP/last stand/rally cry

[hybrid aurora]

I've used a naga since 2008 and havent gone back. Not sure I could actually play this game without it at this point.

[vast goblet]

had to go naga for wireless

[reef holly]

[fallen pulsar]

The only keyboard binds for abilities I use are q e and r

[turbid plaza]

i hate using modifiers with keyboard

[fallen pulsar]

Everything else is on my mouse

And I use shift and ctrl for modifiers

[pliant geyser]

this is like my 2nd or 3rd g600, i love them but i feel like they wear out pretty quick

[vast goblet]

you just use modifiers for the mouse buttons?

[turbid plaza]

for me is all the keys around WASD

[torn gulch]

well i played as a clicker until the beginning of shadowlands: 5x5 grid with CSGO mouse sensitivity and i was doing 20+ keys in BFA

:))

fun times

[fallen pulsar]

The absolute chad

[reef holly]

I couldn’t figure out how to do modifiers+mouse buttons

[vast goblet]

fuckin prot has so many damn buttons i had to start using shift modifiers again with my mmo mouse lol

[reef holly]

Doesn’t work for me

[torn gulch]

took me 2 months toswitch

[hybrid aurora]

I've played with some good clickers, but I've played with way more bad clickers 😛

[turbid plaza]

I even made the first 3 buttons on my mouse F9, F10 and F11 so I could use 1 2 3 on my keyboard

[hybrid aurora]

Think of how good the good clickers would be if they started using kbs

[vast goblet]

you gotta bind the mouse button to something other than a mouse button

then you can use modifiers on that

[fallen pulsar]

I need ctrl and shift modifers because I group certain types of abilities to a specific button. So I have empty slots on certain modifers or main keys

[torn gulch]

you'll be surprised but my performance only improved slightly when i switched but i can say i am not fully accustomised to full binds even after an xpac

but i am trash at this game

[vast goblet]

yeah i do that with stuns/cc and cd's

[torn gulch]

it is what it is

[fallen pulsar]

Like, 1 is my most spammed ability, shift+1 is my most important resource, and ctrl+1 is my most important cd

[tired pivot]

do we keep the gem socket when turning non-tier set into tier set

[vast goblet]

group em all on the same button and use modifiers

[hybrid aurora]

It takes a while to develop the muscle memory. Ima boomer, so i doubt id be able to drastically change my playstyle and perform.

[fallen pulsar]

9, shift 9, and ctrl 9 are all mobility skills for me

[hybrid aurora]

I'll def play WoW on Nervegear when it comes out

[torn gulch]

yea especially if you play alts you put skill classes on same binds
all my chars have kicks on F for example and stuns on SHIFt and CTRL F if i have multiple

[vast goblet]

I got my charge/leap on v cause thats where my thumb naturally rests

[fallen pulsar]

Yeah all my characters use the same bind patterns

[grim grotto]

would u pref upgrade a 415m+ shield to 418 crafting or upgrading like lowest item ( shoes 402 ) to 418?

with crafting*

[vast goblet]

402-418

[pliant geyser]

anyone using the g600 mouse - do you know of a reuseable pads replacement for the bottom thing.......like if you have to take it apart ever the pads become kinda crap and you have to replace

[vast goblet]

get mouse skates

they have em on amazon

[pliant geyser]

are those reuseable or throwaway like the normal pads

[vast goblet]

yeah if we're talking about the same thing

youre talking about the part where the mouse meets the matt

[turbid plaza]

usually some of the buttons or the clics start to fail before I have to replace the pads

[atomic inlet]

guys ring with leech or gem slot?

[strong forum]

Depends on what kind of ring we talking about

[vast goblet]

i feel like gem would beat leech everytime

if its the same ring otherwise

[pliant geyser]

would you happen to have a link because all i see are the rubber ones that you only can put on once and if you ever have to take it off they become unusable kinda

[pliant geyser]

my mouse wheel button is messed up and so i have to press down on it pretty hard, and so im wanting to take it apart and fix/replace that part, but in the process ill make the mouse pads messed up and have to replace (or just leave them off)

[atomic inlet]

this ring

[neat parrot]

has anything changed in talents after nerf?

[strong forum]

What ilvl, vs what are you using currently

[vast goblet]

superglides are all the rage right now

theyre glass.

[atomic inlet]

doesnt matter both 415

want to upg one to 415 dont know wich

[strong forum]

Meh if its 415 its farmable

But so is socket

Idk flip a coin

[vast goblet]

secondary stats are goinng to beat out leech everytime

[pliant geyser]

can they be taken off and replaced repeatedly? like if in the future i get a new g600 and have to fix that one as well i could swap em to it possibly?

[vast goblet]

i doubt they make anything like that

I guess you could reapply them by using some adhesive

[elder palm]

I haven't tanked since BFA, back then someone made a doc with all the best casts to spell reflect in m+. Does anyone maintain that or have another one?

[modern brook]

Pins

[hybrid aurora]

someone made a WA in the pins. Super nice.

[vast goblet]

theyre all applied with adhesive so once you take them off you would need to use more adhesive

[elder palm]

oh a WA, that's gotten better then since BFA

[neat parrot]

has anything changed in talents after nerf??

[lusty tiger]

So there’s this kodo pack that patrols around the second boss of NO

His little handler homies do +50% magic damage auto attacks. How to i sew my bumhole back closed after them?

[analog wolf]

Do i catalyst hands or helmet as 4th piece? (same iLvl)

[hybrid aurora]

spell block to keep your butthole from opening in the first place?

[fallen pulsar]

I just spam IP and use SR

Spell block in nokhud?

[pliant geyser]

it looks like they dont carry the g600 ones for some reason, or im missing it so rip that

[lusty tiger]

I did then kite then did again- still wrecking me more then I’d like

[dreamy island]

Do I need to change loot pref to Fury/Arms if I want the Whetstone from CoS?

[fallen pulsar]

What key level

[lusty tiger]

17

[fallen pulsar]

Hmmmm weird

[onyx smelt]

Trading a 418 haste Vers belt for the unstable 418 one (crit/mastery) really doesn’t seem worth the embellishment use

[fallen pulsar]

Never really felt in big danger on that pack in fort, I’ve done it on 17 too

[onyx smelt]

The ring ends up doing like 1% of your dmg

[lusty tiger]

Let’s see I’ll snapshot the time line in the log

[hybrid aurora]

I think 1% dam is more than youd get from going crit/mast to haste/vers

I think all our stats are fairly close in value, unless you're severely lacking in the haste/vers dpt

[onyx smelt]

I think I currently have like 4400 haste

Or 4600

[strong forum]

i got 4k haste and im still nowhere NEAR the DR

kinda wild

[lusty tiger]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zHZRbFw8XVL76KdY/#fight=last&type=damage-taken&source=3&start=9778156&end=10058454

[hybrid aurora]

yeah, i think you can sacrifice some haste for the dam. Im at 4135 and feel totally fine.

[zinc spruce]

which one? i think whisper

wrist is nice too 🤔

[hybrid aurora]

I would say your decision should be between whetstone and whispering

[zinc spruce]

yeah..

[hybrid aurora]

i would say the whetstone is EASIER to farm

[strong forum]

icon is only good if your group also runs it

[hybrid aurora]

isnt it still pretty decent outside of that? that one is like 446 vers stat stick plus the strength.

[zinc spruce]

anyone got issues with addons? they all seem out of date n stuff even after updating

[sonic snow]

so i'm rolling a prot war alt and jumping into heroic vault. what ilvl do you think i should get to for heroic before i switch fully from bear?

[hybrid aurora]

I was doing heroic at 380 something

[rustic fox]

just curious, im ilvl 385 and sitting at 33% haste, when is the diminshing returns not worth stacking haste?

[sonic snow]

word, thats what i thought too. 385 atm and figured i should be fine for most of it

[hybrid aurora]

30% i believe

[rustic fox]

thats what i had thought as well ty for confirming 😄

[hybrid aurora]

especially up to brood and raz, you're gucci

[amber siren]

40% without buffs for haste

[fallen pulsar]

Did you pull the thunder beast trio into a totem camp?

I usually handle them separately

[jade tartan]

Guys

What exactly happened in the trees?

[dim depot]

anyone got the best mythic + talent build

[fallen pulsar]

@dim depot

[lusty tiger]

i didnt

[hybrid aurora]

I usually do them separately too. Use that pack so my group can get cds back before boss.

[fallen pulsar]

Shows stormcallers in the damage taken, but could just be a timeline thing

[lusty tiger]

its a timeline thing

[fallen pulsar]

Idk, I dont see anything weird with the damage there, might just need to use your cc on em

[lusty tiger]

the middle clump is the fight

[fallen pulsar]

Maybe stormbolt one

Shockwave after

[lusty tiger]

yea i didnt rly cc them

wtb kidney shot

[onyx smelt]

Anyone know how good the whelp trinket is?

[amber siren]

It's OK? Proc is decent, but as far as I know the PPM is still all over the place

[onyx smelt]

So probably not worth taking out of vault I’d assume

[fallen pulsar]

Yeah you could get many procs in a short time, or non in a very long tome

It’s fine for raid prog I would guess since kill times take longer. And in theory can do a lot. But it’s very rng. Would take other option over it

Also ok in m+ but will sometimes just be doing nothing for a while

[unkempt imp]

Any1 know if I catalyst 415 m+ gloves will I get the mythic appearance of the tier set?

[fallen pulsar]

I think so

My shoulders got mythic appearance but were 418

I think 415 is mythic ilvl tho

[dull osprey]

Hi there, im new in this discord and had a question about how to handle the 3rd boss of ToJS. I completed a +20 AA (crawth was rough but not too bad) but temple has been awful for me. I know how to rotate between cooldowns but was wondering do you guys had any techs or specific strats for this boss? Haven't really found anything super enlightening yet

[fallen pulsar]

Pins, but spell block timing lets you have it for 2 absorbs

If you do it too early it will only spell block one

[dull osprey]

checking pins now, didnt see the icon

[cinder storm]

Pray your healer is smart

[fallen pulsar]

Rotate IV for first absorb, LS second, IV third, hp pot/healthstone

Lust that phase

[cinder storm]

Have dps hold CDs until 70%

[fallen pulsar]

Yeah p1 and p3 are free. P2 is a big tank ripper

So getting through it as fast as possible is important

[hybrid aurora]

can always lust p2 as well

[dull osprey]

do you consider IV alone to be good enough for a jade kick?

[amber siren]

Make sure you use LS after the hit has gone out so it heals the absorb

[bold turret]

I run double SW in temple

[fallen pulsar]

Your healer should also be doing the hp absorb

[dull osprey]

double shield wall could be big brain too

[fallen pulsar]

Iv covers a lot of it

[dull osprey]

i also wasnt sure spell block would work on it, since spell reflect doesnt

[fallen pulsar]

Check pins for spell reflect/block list

[bold turret]

Spell reflect works as a DR (damage reduction) still use it

[fallen pulsar]

But you should be spell reflecting

Yeah it lowers the damage

Its a magic damage DoT so 20% less is still useful

[cinder storm]

If you don't hear the spell reflect sound, chances are the spell is getting deflected

[dull osprey]

holy fuck how did i not know spell reclect had a DR component

[cinder storm]

Or memorize the spreadsheet

[dull osprey]

im trolling

[fallen pulsar]

Congrats, you now can laugh at a lot of magic damage every 20 seconds 🙂

[cinder storm]

Guys, running with a disc priest now is cracked

[dull osprey]

yeah ok this is all super great info, i think the last trash pack this week is gonna be the wiper

[fallen pulsar]

Good luck friendo

[cinder storm]

If disc end up having a kick or a brez they'd 100% be SS tier

[amber siren]

Do holy/disc priests not have a kick?

[fallen pulsar]

I dont think so

[deft socket]

For M+ would you run Hoof or Rumbling ruby? Same ilvl. Other trink is whetstone

[amber siren]

Damn

[fallen pulsar]

I think they have silences

[amber siren]

Ohhh true

[amber siren]

Safest bet is to sim

[lusty tiger]

what is the "tierlist" for ST tank damage? my buddy says he thinks BDK has terrible ST

[tired kettle]

How is the mage tower going for u guys?
Wiped for an hour straight with the best pull being 48% Phase 1
Any tipps, tricks recommendations?
BTW Using only DF gear not legion legos etc since its a new char

[jagged pier]

those dont work anyway

[slim dove]

legendaries are disabled iirc so dont bother going to farm them

[tender cove]

all the builds for pins have to be redone

just so you know

[jagged pier]

unfortunatly the mage tower is literally a get good thing

u need to learn the mechanics etc

[agile elbow]

Not all of them.

One of them works afaik

[reef holly]

Ok guys- icon or hunger of the pack? Same ilevel, I only do mythic +

[agile elbow]

🙃

[reef holly]

Sim says icon

[toxic mesa]

i was planning on crafting the versa proc bracers, but i have 421 hasteversa bracers in my vault, should i take those and craft the unstable frost belt instead? (my other embellishment is lariat)

[gritty swallow]

icon like the council trinket?

[buoyant narwhal]

Seal of Diurna's is a no brainer here i guess? I can craft belt, only other option is legs which would replace current tier of 389, but wont allow me to get a 4 set if i catalyse my 415 shoulders anyway

[reef holly]

Whispering incarnate icon

[gritty swallow]

i would worst case scenario sim and say youre the only person in the group with it

and go from there first

[reef holly]

Ahh I didn’t know I can specify myself only in group

[gritty swallow]

because the trinket gets better if healer + dps have it but if youre pugging cant be sure everyone will be using it

at the bottom of the sim in the option panel you can select that no one else in the group has one

[fallen pulsar]

Sim your vault. 395 ring is pretty meh imo. Especially if the 415s are a big upgrade for you

[reef holly]

[strong forum]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6EXLdxQg4d4bwxNNYJhtkw @craggy pilot

i got an upgrade

[chrome heath]

Yo, thunderlord talent work using?

worth*

[fallen pulsar]

Whats your upgrade? Also damn, I’m 4k behind in sim. But only 3 ilvl lower

[toxic pewter]

What you guys think of Mastery after recent nerf

[jolly granite]

do we play versa flask? is it the best choice for m+ and raid?

[strong forum]

i pugged first 2 bosses mythic and got the ring

[fallen pulsar]

Pog, congrats!

[broken wraith]

Question, anyone else missing access to both Defensive and Battle Stance with the patch as free talents?

[toxic pewter]

Negative, both battle and defensive stance are 'free' and already selected for me

[broken wraith]

What I'm looking at

[fallen pulsar]

Reset talents

[toxic pewter]

Interesting lol

[warm plinth]

The talent trees bugged out. Just redo your talents

[fallen pulsar]

Patch scuffed talents for people

Just hit reset and everything “should” go to normal

[broken wraith]

Oh gawd

[warm plinth]

Just shift click

[fallen pulsar]

Nah just dont talent dstance

Enjoy the free point

[warm plinth]

Lol

I think mwahi said you can just swap specs too

[broken wraith]

Guys, I think I am stanceless

[fallen pulsar]

Rip

[broken wraith]

Yep, will try a full reset in a moment, just enjoying the absurdity of it.

[remote dawn]

can we change crafted items in T-set?

[marble bridge]

No just looted

[remote dawn]

merci ❤️

[coarse flower]

can we farm infinite sparks this week?

(like 3+ today if i needed to before raid?)

[lofty widget]

in theory yes, you probably wont get that lucky tho

[warm plinth]

Yes, and no. You technically can farm infinite sparks, but the drop rate is so low that you're still only going to average about 1 every 2 weeks.

Why do you need 3 sparks before raid anyway

You can already get 5 guaranteed sparks

[modern brook]

How could you possibly need 8 crafted slots for raid

Yeah what gnash said

[broken wraith]

I think I fucked up

[coarse flower]

what content drops it?

[modern brook]

40%Dr pog

6%crit pog

[slim dove]

[toxic gyro]

👀

[warm plinth]

Everything

But why do you need 3 sparks before raid XD

[warm plinth]

Maybe this game isn't for you

[gaunt oar]

Can't decide...

Take the legs?
Take the shoulders and cata my current helm?
Take the helm?

[broken wraith]

Bigger = Better right??

[coarse flower]

do you think rares would drop it?

[broken wraith]

I wonder if I can make it go higher.

[coarse flower]

yea im missing weapon(2hand), shoulders and boots

[modern brook]

Then you need 4

[coarse flower]

holy shit true

[modern brook]

Just bully a raid tank into gquitting

Save yourself the headache

[slim dove]

you aren't farming 4 sparks this week.

Dont bother trying

[broken wraith]

The only mmo I can't break today.

[tired pivot]

hey, how do I pull this pack without pulling the big tree

https://i.imgur.com/DTMkeS7.png

[buoyant narwhal]

The legs sim 2% better, but i cant figure out how to do the sim as if i had the frostfire belt to show the rings true dps increase

[errant cipher]

What stats should i craft on mh

crit haste haste vers?

[oak heart]

haste vers is good

[fallen pulsar]

I believe you’d need to parse the simc output and insert another item with the frostfire’s id and stats that matches the syntax

Idk if raidbots has an easy “add item” button

[cunning knot]

If you're running Bloodborne on Council, is it a must-have then to go FbV rather than BV?

After the nerf

[lusty tiger]

isnt bloodbourne not good?

[cunning knot]

Most people run it on primal council

[errant cipher]

frozen or sophic?

[coarse flower]

just got told that people have farmed 3+ already today

so it seems winnable

[errant cipher]

how do you farm them

[short vale]

how to reliably farm them? I did m+s all day got none 😦 (saw like 3 drop tho for randos)

[coarse flower]

source seems legit

[proven tide]

i went for Frozen that seems to be what the higher players have gone for

[coarse flower]

i did my first +20 this week and got it from the first dungeon

im trying different content to see

[short vale]

unlucky

[errant cipher]

on NO are people still pulling big pat?

[hybrid aurora]

which big pat?

[short vale]

ye why not?

[errant cipher]

bolster

[errant leaf]

guys i got burgeonning seed in vault (trinket from TAV) anyone using this can enlight me on if its good or garbo ?

[sick sentinel]

fort + bolster i would assume

you'd need to lust on the pull i think

[tired pivot]

it is not BiS

it is okay

[errant leaf]

does stacks fall when not in combat ?

[proven tide]

so because of the affix htis week everything neds to be pulled in single packs?

no chain pulling right?

[sick sentinel]

still not able to log into my warrior

[tired pivot]

not sure, but I have seen people pushing highest keys with it

[sick sentinel]

so im installing wow again

everything else but my character works

[reef holly]

U in China?

[sick sentinel]

only my warrior, and my warrior i tried to do COS

[proven tide]

🤣

[sick sentinel]

i hate it, i alt f4'd

here we are

[hybrid aurora]

you hated doing COS on your pwar?

[tired pivot]

CoS was the dungeon I hated the most too, when m+ launched

route felt too random

until like 3rd run or something

[cinder storm]

Yesterday we did cos and everyone's frames rates dropped to almost zero, don't know of they have fixed WA's errors by now

[sick sentinel]

i hate that dungeon because i am not capable of understanding how the 3 boss thing works and the i spy, and probably the last boss

[hybrid aurora]

oh man

[sick sentinel]

also some weird gondola boat trip at the start

[hybrid aurora]

COS is one of two free dungeons this season

[sick sentinel]

85gb download, but i put a ticket in about my warrior at any rate

[cinder storm]

Last boss is a line, that's very visible, and it's super free if all clones are stacked

[sick sentinel]

so, what that dungeon is, your telling me,

is that its god damn siege of boralus all over again

[late saddle]

That dungeons easy af

[cinder storm]

No, far from sob

[late saddle]

liek easiest this season in my opinion

[cinder storm]

More like a freehold

[sick sentinel]

the whole front part of the dungeon is weird and easy and then the 3rd boss sucks, and then the 4th boss is a total make or break wall boss

cuz, thats kinda how i view it

[late saddle]

theres only 3 bosses

[cinder storm]

Freehold had nasty mechanics that as long as you knew how to work around them, they were negligible at best

[sick sentinel]

im talking about in siege

boss 3 is water giant and boss 4 is squid main boss

[cinder storm]

That's reverse academy

[sick sentinel]

i don't understand what determines if you go vex first or tree

[hybrid aurora]

are you pulling the 3rd boss with all her lieutenants?

[craggy pilot]

you picked your vault?

[strong forum]

no

[slim dove]

vex first for lust timing

[strong forum]

i got it to drop

[slim dove]

you dont lust tree anymore.

[sick sentinel]

i probably very muich did that yes

main nasty mechanics in freehold was grapeshot, seaspout and standing in final boss fire, one of the mobs does a spell that eats like 70% of its hps

so many dead to grapeshot, so many dead runs on that boss

[cinder storm]

People getting eaten by sharks

[sick sentinel]

TJS boss 1 main attack does 250k+ a tick, just a warning, probably 90% hp at 15s

[slim dove]

? yes dont stand in water jet

[sick sentinel]

well, its storming this week

soo 100% plan on a dps to get hit by tornadoe, loss of movement control cuz forced jump in air, water spout, dead

i can tell you for sure that will happen

[next yacht]

Hello,is ruby whelp shell any good for prot warriors?

[slim dove]

skill issue idk

[neon fossil]

Guys, regarding this catalyst charge. If I use it on an alt, will it also consume it from my main?

[slim dove]

wasn't much of an issue last storming week

[sick sentinel]

im just telling you what WILL happen in keys this week

ive been to the circus alot, seen all the clowns

[heady gyro]

just be a good tank and clear them before the jet comes out

[sick sentinel]

tank thrown into water jet, tank dies, group has sated debuff cant lust again

[craggy pilot]

what did you even get? i cant see 😄

[sick sentinel]

TAENK YOIU SUCK group disbans

[strong forum]

eranog mythic ring

[craggy pilot]

fk me 🤣

[light fulcrum]

quick question: was there a Change made to Avatar? Cause it was no longer skilled in my skilltree.

[strong forum]

they only changed the spellID of it

nothing that affects the actual game

[light fulcrum]

okay, thx

[tacit widget]

i guess the nerfs arent that big to make a difference in warri beeing very strong?

[hybrid aurora]

trying to figure out if I go fury or arms for OS. Can i play fury with 2 one-handers?

[sweet surge]

Is Grieftorch decent as prot for M+? Do you still block/parry/etc during the channel?

[hybrid aurora]

not really noticeable tbh

[fallen pulsar]

Yes, no

[uneven ice]

Hi! One question: is it worth to spend valor in Strike Twice? Or is better to craft a weapon and invert valor on other items?

[sweet surge]

idk if I should get it over a 10ilvl upgr on belt

[fallen pulsar]

Best idea is shockwave to do a stop on all things and channel if you need safety. On bosses need to ensure a tank buster isnt gonna happen as you channel

I would do it

But I love greedy damage

[halcyon dust]

No

[icy bane]

Just get whetstone + all totem bro for trinkets

[fallen pulsar]

1/2 way there

[sweet surge]

I have whetstone, All totem has never dropped. Is that good?

[icy bane]

Storm eaters boon pretty good for smb/HOV

[fallen pulsar]

All totem is really good and so is whetstone

[icy bane]

Yeah four proc chance pretty good in m+

[fallen pulsar]

Both dont put you in danger to use

[woven trellis]

can someone explain to me again why lariat is better than an other emeblishment

[strong forum]

its a variable slot

[icy bane]

It isn’t

[strong forum]

the effect itself isnt better than any other

its just you can choose your stats on it and procs secondaries

[bright citrus]

how much does 4 piece for survivability? I've looked at logs and I see other warriors with much higher ip uptime but similar amount of casts.

[strong forum]

4pc doesnt affect how you play or how often you send IP

its just ALOT of passive trickle healing

[woven trellis]

aside the choose your stat things (because u can do that on other spark item as well) does the proc secondary of choice a real reason why itd be better than another option?

[strong forum]

especially in higher keys

[icy bane]

Amounts to Like 5% leech right?

[bright citrus]

would it not show up as better up time in logs?

[strong forum]

no

cuz you spam IP regardless

[woven trellis]

so u actually think 4p is very good?

[strong forum]

yes

its not just 5% leech

because it enables brutal vit

[woven trellis]

so its worth it to get a lower ilvl piece in order to get 4p?

[strong forum]

yeah

for keys

in raid, not so much

[woven trellis]

how much lower ilvl we talkin about

[strong forum]

i dropped 26 ilvl on gloves and 13ilvl on pants to get 4pc

[woven trellis]

oof ok

i just have to drop 7 ilvl on glove to get it

ill do it i g uess lol

[strong forum]

yeah lmao

[icy bane]

Catalyst 421 pants into tier was huge

[strong forum]

send it

[woven trellis]

im going to push 20 and higher more regularly and im wondering if i should use decoration of flame 402 instead of my boon 395 or incafrnate 395

im scared of dying in booning even if i know a lot of good windows now

[strong forum]

decoration of flame does nothing really well

its not a good tank trinket and not a good dps trinket

it does something

[woven trellis]

lets say its more absorb during harder busting boss like bird

right

[bright citrus]

I have a 398 decoration of flame and 408 totem from Kurog, is the totem better then?

[strong forum]

all totem

by far

[bright citrus]

as far as being more defensive?

[distant crystal]

when we got to sennarth i was snooping through top havoc parses and the #1 was using decoration of flame

lol

[icy bane]

Goat totem

[strong forum]

totem is pretty much the best tank trinket for m+

[strong forum]

thats the biggest example of pwar needing help

[remote hawk]

Would you much rather use the nokhund trinket over decortion?

[strong forum]

hell no

i wouldnt use either

[woven trellis]

is storming a problem with booning btw

im just wondering

[remote hawk]

I got normal decortion and got a 418 nokhund in vault atm

[upbeat star]

398 Ruby Whelp Shell w/max haste or 408 All Totem?

[strong forum]

anything else

[remote hawk]

Got nothing better atm 😦

[strong forum]

all-totem

[bright citrus]

I think my trinkets are my weakest pieces, I've been trying to nail down what to use but sims are all about damage.

[icy bane]

More damage good

[upbeat star]

Thanks

[strong forum]

there are no good "full tank trinkets"

its all about dmg

[remote hawk]

I got a windscar that I refuse to remove. Love that shit

[woven trellis]

god id use windscar everyday ye

but no whetsone on my protwar so far

[strong forum]

for a normal group whetstone + all-totem is pretty much bis in keys

[slim dove]

totem fucks

would reccomend

[icy bane]

Whetstone all totem gang rise up

[strong forum]

boon can get you killed

[bright citrus]

I don't have windscar, I do have a 415 hoof and 408 all totem.

[strong forum]

grieftorch is a bit easier to use

[icy bane]

Waiting on my mythic all totem

[strong forum]

then use that

perfect

hoof is the 2nd best trinket from m+

[woven trellis]

i had to turn down a hoof 418 in vault cause i had 421 tier piece chest hanging

it was so hard

[remote hawk]

Fuck. Rlp farm here we come

[strong forum]

like, if you absolutely want to use decoration of flame, do it

its not a bad trinket

[bright citrus]

what about for raid? I don't have incarnate yet.

[strong forum]

but its not particularily good either

[drifting socket]

Why is it listed as bis on wowhead

[strong forum]

cuz its easy to get and the closest thing to a mainly defensive trinket

but its not bis for m+

[remote hawk]

I mean. I got nothing better. And my vault was shit. The 418 nok trinket was the best 😅 u less I take the random 415 helm to remake it to tier next week

[drifting socket]

All totem listed all the way down as B tier

[strong forum]

all-totem is whack in raid yes

does fuckall there

[drifting socket]

Ah okay

[strong forum]

cuz you dont parry as often

as in m+

[woven trellis]

except from hoof what would u consider the best m+ trinket nome

[strong forum]

so you only get very infrequent procs

whetstone

[woven trellis]

i mean

trinket u get in m+

and a last choice

welp?

hoof welp wetstone?

[icy bane]

Whetstone, good, hunger of the pack, whelp

[woven trellis]

good?

[icy bane]

That supposed to be hoof lol

[sullen flame]

Whetstone, hoof, scale, hunger of the pack.

[upbeat star]

For raiding trinkets?

[remote dawn]

6

[remote hawk]

Witch one is hunger ? What dungeon?

[sullen flame]

HoV

[icy bane]

Halls

[remote hawk]

Ahh

[icy bane]

You got enough people with icon? Icon + whetstone

[upbeat star]

Gotcha

[strong forum]

for raiding its grieftorch > whetstone > icon > boon

[prisma crane]

no, if anything boon is good for storming because you'll clear any tornados that hit you without moving

[thin cedar]

anyone have any tips on mage tower with the new talents and what not

[strong forum]

go max single target dps

idk what they changed tho

but pick up stormbolt and intim shout

[prisma crane]

if we get full access to all talent points i'd assume the MT is easier than when it came back in SL

[strong forum]

go HR instead of ITF cuz you wont have uptime on stacks

[strong forum]

you dont know how they tuned it

cuz in SL it was super easy

[prisma crane]

fair, but just something as minor as war machine being default helps a TON

[high drum]

also make sure you have icon if your other tank doesnt

even if its a normal mode one

[sand mason]

If you have 35% haste with algathar buff, should you run ITF?

[strong forum]

yes

or

[prisma crane]

we also have access to an additional interrupt if needed

[strong forum]

hm

[sand mason]

Thought so. I had infinite sb uptime and felt like I didn’t need hr

[prisma crane]

and way more leech and easier SB uptime when scaled down

[sand mason]

More haste for more rage woulda been very very nice tho lmao

[prisma crane]

plus spell block is probably fairly useful as a recovery option

[pallid quiver]

It's even easier

I hit it last night

[prisma crane]

that's what i'd assume @pallid quiver

[strong forum]

ya ill stream it now

for fun

[pallid quiver]

Didn't even build for ST

[strong forum]

see how it is

[pallid quiver]

Just had my standard M+ build set

[prisma crane]

we just have more useful tools at our disposal now

[pallid quiver]

Biggest problem was i got chucked theough the rock wall at one point and died because i couldn't charge back through

Quality game

[jagged pier]

well if your gunna do it i dont have too

[lean gale]

would you play both fire rings or 1 and melandrus?

[jagged pier]

1 and melandrus until mythic broodkeep ring imo

but up to u

[prisma crane]

idc about the absorb, but if it's mythic maybe just cuz 431

[jagged pier]

well yer kinda

but at 431 the shield is pretty big

[pallid quiver]

but is it more dps? because parsing is the real endgame, obviously

[lean gale]

i have the dps fire ring and melandrus

[pallid quiver]

It's why you gotta kill your dps

Grieftorch uptime, baybee

it's a good thing i continue to be without grieftorch

[prisma crane]

im assuming at some point mastery is going to be better for dps if you've purged it from most of your other gear

[craggy pilot]

anyone know anything about BM hunters proccing Fire rings? 🤔

[polar raptor]

Anyone know how the coloring of tier gear works in m+? Finally started getting some tier, first piece was normal tier, second piece was heroic tier, but now I have colorways for transmog for both normal & heroic for the first piece. Is this normal or bug?

sorry talking about getting it via weekly vault not raids

[thin cedar]

like on MT i just did druid and it was so much easier than this is lol

[prisma crane]

theres a weapon enchant irrc

iirc*

fires bombs

[strong forum]

@jagged pier

i 1shot it

with no fucking sweat

[prisma crane]

see, easier

just watched it

[strong forum]

i used 1 orb

total

[jagged pier]

yer i was watching

[strong forum]

lmao

[prisma crane]

i think you used 2

[strong forum]

ye first one was just becasue

[prisma crane]

one as an inq stop

[strong forum]

on varuud

or w/e his name was

[pallid quiver]

I accidentally used 2 orbs

[prisma crane]

we just have a WAY better toolkit

[pallid quiver]

It's so easy now

[strong forum]

im so annoyed

its so piss

i coulda gone way faster

but i played safe

[pallid quiver]

coward, never play safe, gotta go fast

[jagged pier]

could have done a me from SLs

XD

[pallid quiver]

that's my excuse for being bad at recognizing the infernal ground animation

[strong forum]

i mean i ate like 7 or 8 slams

nothing does anything in there

but you dont 1shot the eyes anymore with heroic throw, so thats weird

[sick sentinel]

response

[hard shell]

hello guys

[solar mirage]

For hov

Can u range the dragon breath

Leap outta it angle

[strong forum]

you can range it

but its like 50yards

or was it 30?

[tulip kelp]

Spell block is great for it

[solar mirage]

Spell block cd get reduced by anything in our kit?

[warm plinth]

no

[solar mirage]

Okok ty

[sick sentinel]

they claim to have put me in a safe spot, but we will see

[strong forum]

its 25 yard

so you can outrange it with leap

quite easily

[sick sentinel]

apparently durotar

[tired pivot]

https://i.imgur.com/DTMkeS7.png

Does anyone know how to make this pull

I always chain the tree by accident

[tulip kelp]

Do you do that or just eat it? Feels like it would fuck up dps unless it’s just dragon left

[remote hawk]

Spellr3flect to take 20%less dmg and ip/demo and tank it ? Or well move to the side after first tick

[tulip kelp]

I think the hov dragon breath follows you

[warm plinth]

It does, yes

[strong forum]

if you have SW, you just eat it

[marble bridge]

Do you need all 5 flowers? Can't you take the 2 with the previous ones? Jump down after that?

[strong forum]

and yeah SR for all of it aswell obv

[tired pivot]

for good %

[tulip kelp]

Yeah I’ll save SW for first one when I do that big pull and then rotate

[craggy tree]

Same thing happened to me.

[tulip kelp]

But basically I eat them all just wanted to see if other people are ranging

[opaque hearth]

shit vault for me, I could get 4 piece or a gem socket, the 4 piece is 389 though, and I have heroic non tier legs now.

[marble bridge]

I'm only running mid M+ but I don't pull those 2 I pull them as a 4 pack with the front 2 and then jump down. Tend to be fine % wise. Sometimes have to grab an extra frog.

[opaque hearth]

is our 4 piece worth having over a gem and higher ilvl ?

[tired pivot]

I know my routes my man

[warm plinth]

127%

[tired pivot]

I am just wondering how to pull that

since I never did it before

[warm plinth]

yes

[tired pivot]

jesus that is an insane amount of haste

[warm plinth]

Tell me how you really feel XD

[tired pivot]

I have 2k less than you

[strong forum]

i had 4k haste 1 item ago

now its only 3.6k

[tired pivot]

ilvl sadly king

I want to be stacking haste too

[tulip kelp]

Don’t do it

[warm plinth]

@tulip kelp would you like a cheese curd

[tulip kelp]

Sure

I love cheese curds

[warm plinth]

I just got some cheese curds and I would like to share them

[tired pivot]

I will honestly start doing this in lower keys

for some fun time

[coarse flower]

ok winnable, farmed 2 sparks in 2 hours

2 more to complete the farm

2 more and i can reroll to arms 🙏

[warm plinth]

what are you farming them in?

[fallen pulsar]

yeah mage tower was pretty breezy

[dense ledge]

garbo vault, pick the cloak?

[coarse flower]

i tried like 20+ rares and it didnt drop one; ive only gotten 1 from M+ and another from dragonbane keep chest

someone from my raid got it from killing mythic dathea

[warm plinth]

good to know, ty grass

[coarse flower]

idk how meme it is, but there was a limit group on JPC's stream farming +20 SBG/COS for spark drops but not a single one dropped for them in 3 hours

[slim dove]

rng is rng

[coarse flower]

yea

[inner rock]

I suspect the wq weeklies will have highest drop rate, m+ is too farmablw

[slim dove]

sounds like youve gotten astronomically lucky with 2 sparks

[strong forum]

wtf

i thought the droprate was 1 every 2 weeks

[slim dove]

its legion legendary system

[strong forum]

ye but like

you couldnt grind 2 legiondaries in 2 hours

[jagged socket]

https://i.imgur.com/qKUKVzq.png
Should I craft Hands (418) or get hands from Sennarth Mythic (415) no chance yet to recieve tier hands in mythic. currently equipped 5/5 tier

[coarse flower]

i never played in legion idk

[slim dove]

Tru, I think my luckiest was 2 in 1 day but that was a twelve hour session doing raid + m+

[coarse flower]

i think this was intented meant to be farmable anyway, if not theyll hotfix it like the dragonflight rare farm

[strong forum]

luckily i dont want anything to craft with sparks anymore

so im gucci

[coarse flower]

and im not taking that risk im just not sleeping and farming this

NA bros already farming this while i was asleep

[strong forum]

like i have only 1 item i want crafted besiudes the boots i crafted today

and thats wrists

so i dont need to rush that shit

[coarse flower]

yeah i crafted engi wrist for brez but i hard trolled

i want the vers wrist as well

idk Ive pressed it twice and it backfired twice

[strong forum]

im pretty set

[coarse flower]

im scared af now, i need to level my engineering

[coarse flower]

gimme ring

[strong forum]

yoinked it today from pug

[coarse flower]

what is consensus on this trinket?

[jagged socket]

but are the tinker slots, embelishments?

[slim dove]

dont you want to craft boots?

[strong forum]

i have crafted boots

[slim dove]

10/10 in m+, raid its meh

[strong forum]

i just dont have mats to get it to 418

[slim dove]

ahh

[strong forum]

same with neck

i need to do 14 keys to get it to 418

cba

all-totem is bis for keys

[coarse flower]

yeah i figured it was good for keys, i want to use that +incarnate

but literally no one uses it

[strong forum]

if your group also has icon

then its good ye

[slim dove]

whetstone + all totem imo

[strong forum]

otherwise just whetstone it up

[coarse flower]

ye sending it bro

[jagged pier]

giga bis for m+

[slim dove]

wish i could commit to mythic raiding

[coarse flower]

i thought it was just damage, but it looks like the buffs are kinda insane

[tulip kelp]

Would you use spark on shield if you had 415? I have pretty similar gear to you and trying to decide if I should use spark on shield or just save it for 2hander for arms

[coarse flower]

the earth one is ridiculous phys dr and the wind(i think) is ALOT of haste

[strong forum]

ilvl is king on shield

especially now that they nerfed our blockvalue a bit

[tired pivot]

damage is insane, buffs have 1 dead buff out of 4

[tulip kelp]

So 3 ilvl is noticeable?

[strong forum]

air is 12% haste
earth is 4.4k armor
ice is 15k hot
(heroic totem, so mythic is 30% more of all that)

[tulip kelp]

It’s like 7 str and 200 block rating

[devout lake]

well, people, did they changed a lot the prot warrior this patch?

[strong forum]

its not noticable, but your most important defensive item

no

[coarse flower]

im capping i didnt read heroic

[tired pivot]

nothing changed for prot

[strong forum]

sounds like 20-30% yea

[tulip kelp]

So in your situation if you had 415 shield would you farm a spark to craft 418?

[strong forum]

i wouldnt farm it cuz i personally am a lazy fuck

but if you want to use your next spark, it should be shield

its your single most important item

shield alone is what makes you block 42% of all phys dmg

[tired pivot]

right after slutty transmog

[strong forum]

if your shield is 300 ilvl, you only block like 10% of dmg

if its 418, you block like 42 or smth

single most important item

if you dont push crazy content, sure

[tulip kelp]

So going forward do you still open vault as Prot every week?

[strong forum]

yes

i dont want any dps trinkets

so ill always loot as prot

to get 421 weapon/shield

[tired pivot]

I would fuck for the CoS trinket

[tulip kelp]

Fair enough

I guess I wanted 421 2hander for arms but maybe should play it first lol

[tired pivot]

miniscule

[prisma crane]

more than nothing

[tired pivot]

but we are all chasing those miniscule upgrades

[strong forum]

should be about 3%

effective

[chrome lance]

wow this mage tower is fuccking me up.... my best try is 60% on inquisitor...

[strong forum]

huh

[tired pivot]

o yeah

mage tower is out

[strong forum]

i uploaded my run on youtube

if you wanna check it out

[chrome lance]

please!

share link

[strong forum]

its in #promotion

my block value in the overworld is 41.26%

[chrome lance]

❤️

[strong forum]

how much does your 415 shield block

without buffs

[warm plinth]

People have such weird takes on vault

[strong forum]

humble brag

[tired pivot]

I have been running without a tier set until this week

[slim dove]

418 overworld no buffs 41.55

[warm plinth]

How is a 421 weapon "garbage"

Tell me

[tired pivot]

I got my first 2 tier pieces in the last week vault, and this week vault

[warm plinth]

ANd it's good stats

[sick sentinel]

versa mastery

[warm plinth]

like

[sick sentinel]

is how

[warm plinth]

who cares about strike twice

[daring marlin]

Inquisitor is the hard part for us IMO. Second guy falls over.

[strong forum]

actually we cant compare overworld

cuz higher ilvl = fucky scaling cuz pvp

need to go inside a dungeon

[prisma crane]

i do, i picked it on the MDI realm, it's like going grocery shopping for gear, it's fun

[warm plinth]

lol

[sick sentinel]

best shiled in the entire game

[chrome lance]

yea, i noticed that infernals stack up real fast... and the aoe is killing me

[warm plinth]

well, yeah if I had the option I would take it. But like, there's no chance I'd be upset about literally any 421 weapon

[strong forum]

i took it slow with inquisitor

so i got 3 infernals

instead of the usual 2

before phasing

[daring marlin]

Just watch your feet and gtfo his AoE at 6 stacks. Should be ok.

[chrome lance]

i had 3 infernals when i am at 70%

[daring marlin]

I also took him slow cuz fuck that.

[warm plinth]

wat

[tired pivot]

my block is 34% with a 418 shield equipped

[strong forum]

yeah youre doing something severely wrong then

[tired pivot]

unequipped everything else

[warm plinth]

Nothing else affects your block mitigation

Besides shield and talents

[strong forum]

and pvp ilvl scaling in overworld

[tired pivot]

that

[warm plinth]

Well yeah ofc

[tired pivot]

so I removed my ilvl

[strong forum]

just go into a dungeon that should show your real shtuff for m+ atleast

why doesnt yours show against current target

[daring marlin]

Vulpera 🤢

ducks

[strong forum]

ye so mine is a little over

7% better

effectively

roughly

ye

[sick sentinel]

hey warriors I see streamers sometimes using Rumbling Ruby and sometimes using Whetstone. Whats the breakpoint, deciding factor here?

for m+

[strong forum]

ruby is pure aoe

whetstone is extremely good on single target, and stops getting better after 5 targets

[sick sentinel]

i was reading something, or watching some video, i think llarold which they were saying something about a block cap?

[strong forum]

block cap is 85%

just like armor

[sick sentinel]

i dunno wtf a block cap is exactly or if its fake news

[strong forum]

block is essentially just 2x armor

btw

[chrome lance]

hey what consumables did you use?

[strong forum]

chance comes from mastery***

!

[strong forum]

i used tepid vers and forgot to use a potion

was my first attempt this xpac

[chilly brook]

Block cap just means you can never block more than 85% of damage

I.e. a single hit of 100 can only be reduced to 15 and no lower

From block

[strong forum]

how much of an increase is the jump from 45.81 to 48.43

effectively

thats total increase

[chilly brook]

Wrong

[proud dock]

how many stacks of bolster is a lot (where we better kite)? like 5+?

[chilly brook]

If the baseline is 100% then yes you’d be correct

[daring marlin]

BTW if you have the heirloom trinket from WoD you can use that

[strong forum]

depends entirely on keylevel and mobtype

[sick sentinel]

depends what your bolstering for 1

[daring marlin]

It definitely helped me a lot this go around rofl

[chilly brook]

Just being semantic

[strong forum]

nah not based on the cap

its just 10% of 45 is 4.5%

[chilly brook]

Nah

[sick sentinel]

if you give, 1 1 stacks of bolster, to an giant elite melee dragon that does cleaves

GG you played your self

[proud dock]

idk maybe like a main target in a 20+

[chilly brook]

It’s using his block reduction as the baseline

[lusty tiger]

Block nerfs are cringe when 1st pack hov mobs are hitting me for almost 30k per swing after block

[sick sentinel]

but its like, anything bolster, its how much you can handle

[chrome lance]

dont have it :/

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/silvermoon/zlobnik

this is my char

[proud dock]

oki

[chilly brook]

Can’t take warriors crying about blockable damage seriously sorry

[warm plinth]

Block cap means you can't mitigate more than 85% of the incoming damage with a block (including crit blocks, which are the only time you'd actually hit that cap anyway)

[sick sentinel]

aside from weapon i think thats a cool mog

[chrome lance]

it dropped and i didnt transmog it back

[warm plinth]

Spell Block is not included though because for some reason they didn't code it with a cap. So it can go beyond the 85% reduction.

[chrome lance]

it should be the green 'lightsaber' from tazavesh 😄

[lusty tiger]

Why blocking is now less valuable that’s cringe

[chilly brook]

Still bar none best at dealing with physical damage

[daring marlin]

Must be why I took zero damage on a hyrja blast last week with spellblock up. 🤣

[chilly brook]

By a significant margin

[daring marlin]

On a 20

[lusty tiger]

Yes

[warm plinth]

yeah that would do it lol

ez crit block

[daring marlin]

I was just like "you fuckin' wat m8"

[warm plinth]

😂

Getting ready to hit that IV afterward

[chilly brook]

Meanwhile my funny resource bar goes to insta red as soon as I’m in a pack

[warm plinth]

And just nothing happens

[chilly brook]

[lusty tiger]

Eww

I feel that though

What happened to monk physical mit

[chilly brook]

Idk monk is fine

[warm plinth]

Nothing happened to it

[chilly brook]

People just need to learn how to press CDs

[sick sentinel]

transmog is the true end game of wow

standing around in main city looking cool

[chilly brook]

I do cry in my passive damage nerf tho

[lusty tiger]

Lol

I think it makes sense though- it makes the spec more rewarding now right?

[daring marlin]

I gotta stop being lazy and gear my pally and level my dk

[chilly brook]

Kinda

It’s an aoe nerf but a single target gain

[daring marlin]

I usually play the three plate tanks but the last few expacs LOL

[lusty tiger]

Hmmm

[sick sentinel]

what item could they add to the trader post that would make the most players the most angry

[gloomy turret]

Got my 4pc now finally.

[sick sentinel]

some other old tcg eapon probably

[chilly brook]

It also makes people who already struggled with the class much worse in terms of output

[gloomy turret]

And bout to craft my 418 frostfire belt

[mortal brook]

WE STANDIN AROUND LOOKIN COOL HERE?

[daring marlin]

gross feet

[mortal brook]

pepehands horde druids

[chilly brook]

Although tbh

[daring marlin]

Other than that 👍

[mortal brook]

no good feets

[sick sentinel]

YES blzizard plz if u hear our messages

[chilly brook]

I’m considering coming back to warrior

[sick sentinel]

give

horde

shoes

[chilly brook]

Mainly because Arms changes

[sick sentinel]

we need shoes on the horde side

badly

[slim dove]

it owns

[daring marlin]

Arms always owns

Just owns less at times

[mortal brook]

[sick sentinel]

somethin is off

[strong forum]

hm?

[daring marlin]

I mogged to the RaF set with the torch and a buckler

fun times

[sick sentinel]

i think its mostly good but i think the horns is too much orange and too much over the top

but thats just 1 mans opinion

[strong forum]

the hairstyle requires it

otherwise its a massive forehead

[daring marlin]

5head

[strong forum]

but this hairstyle owns

its so fucking good

if you can work around the 5head

[daring marlin]

hell yeah brother

[sick sentinel]

yeah, dwarf is pretty good for a mog maker

[mighty valley]

is this one of the hairstyles where the ponytails fly around when you're casting

[sick sentinel]

they got boots and full helms

[strong forum]

only very slightly at the bottom

[sick sentinel]

they also have real fingers too

[daring marlin]

I almost wanna go dorf or DI again to say fuck them debuffs

especially bleeds