derp
#protection
flint grove
next burrow
yes
cedar trench
im trolling, you'll have it
prisma crane
and, i can live with the rage cost if you just remove the target requirement
not being able to use it when nothing is near you is annoying AF
flint grove
im trolling, you'll have it
well sir you got me good
cedar trench
just move to something then
flint grove
i just spent 30 seconds looking
flint grove
ahhaahahhaahhahaha
prisma crane
not always an option
cedar trench
is always an option
warm plinth
not being able to use it when nothing is near you is annoying AF
https://tenor.com/7HU3.gif embed you pos
flint grove
SB double wall lets have it
warm plinth
fail embed, gg
prisma crane
its not always an option
cedar trench
yes it is
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
thats definitely a 1 hand long sword at that point, he's holding it with 1 hand so its 1hand
fallen pulsar
considering the size of certain one handers in wow, checks out
wish we could use 2h weapons for tmog tho 😦
titan's tmog
fallen pulsar
the 1h specialization node becomes a choice node lol
more attacks with less damage or slow big attacks
sick sentinel
you can now equip 2hand weapons with shields, increasing dmg by 5%, but if you do so, you move 5% slower
fallen pulsar
I think everyone would do that if there was no swing speed penalty lol
I'll gladly take a 5% move speed nerf for it at least
sick sentinel
i think if blizzard wants us and expects us to actually play in defensive stance more than 20% of the time at absolute most, it has to have some kind of block related thing, or interupts get reset if they fail
plush tendon
if blizz wants us in D Stance, they take off the 10% damage - modifier
fallen pulsar
mmm, we have plenty of stops already, so thats not enticing either
oak heart
or remove the damage done reduction part of it
sick sentinel
thats the impilication that you are playing more defensively, so you aren't doing as much dmg
if its like, we get the block value we lost into defensive stance, maybe then its a real debate if to use it
fallen pulsar
tbh if I'm in dstance I should get a 50% move speed buff. Then I'll use it. To move between trash 😛
warm plinth
The fact that we will never take defensive stance (because they will never not have a damage penalty) is why it was dumb to bring back stances.
plush tendon
^
sick sentinel
if it was 50% move speed i would literral never take it off
that is game breaking over powered, just trust me
the game will implode
fallen pulsar
I just want to be able to run old content without feeling like a snail
can I have a glyph of infinite heroic leap on instanced content below level 61 if I'm max level
warm plinth
Whirlwind provides a 100% movespeed increase. Now Nando can spam his whirlwind to his heart's content in old content
dark prairie
how big are the prot nerfs
warm plinth
pins
fallen pulsar
roughly about 7% reroll chance on your main
inland raft
Brm new meta boys
plush tendon
Brew looking cool; too bad warrior is much cooler
fallen pulsar
I'm thinking of leveling a brew alt, their damage looks sick. But I suck at managing stagger properly
sick sentinel
how big are the prot nerfs
its not a huge deal,
plush tendon
basically means we take more damage from attacks we block... and we already take little damage from blocked attacks
warm plinth
idk managing stagger isn't really much of a thing anymore
plush tendon
so 7% of 0 is still 0 XD
warm plinth
purify is on its own CD now so
plush tendon
I would try gearing a brewmaster just to try it out.... but thats like a lot of M+ and getting tier
warm plinth
Yeah they changed them over to shuffle in ...SL I think? So Ironskin Brew got removed and now you just have purifying brew (before, purify and ironbrew shared charges)
plush tendon
seems like a chore right now
fallen pulsar
I'm basically done for the season, so I have extra free time. Reached KSH, and only need to prog Heroic Rasz. So I have a lot of extra time gameplay wise now
plush tendon
Besides, Prot gameplay just feels good
fallen pulsar
yeah prot is a lot of fun
plush tendon
even if they werent the meta, kind of hard not to play it
fallen pulsar
I love pressing buttons
royal iron
How far do I have to jump back to see the upcoming nerf discussions?
oak heart
check pins
royal iron
Thanks
limber fable
We still sit in battle most of the time and just swap to defensive on heavy damage mechanics/bosses right ?
Or do we do enough damage to just safely sit in defensive. This if for +20s and above
fallen pulsar
depends honestly. You can mitigate lot of big damage without dstance
limber fable
Is it the worst to just sit in Def ?
limber fable
Ah okay . I'll start swapping more
fallen pulsar
if you're taking immense damage, then sure go dstance until it slows down
but being in bstance as much as possible matters a lot
cloud umbra
just go defensive for the known hard hitting stuff and swap back
opal flame
Ah okay . I'll start swapping more
I just parked in in Bstance and it's honestly the same. When I start to take damage, the rest of the group is already dead
fallen pulsar
yeah, usually the group will die before you ever do even in bstance
opal flame
I have crafted shield and mainhand, should I open vault in dps spec for the whetstone? Only play m+
cloud umbra
isnt the whetstone still on the tank spec too?
warm plinth
yeah, open in arms
jagged pier
isnt the whetstone still on the tank spec too?
no
warm plinth
It's not a main stat trinket but it's still purely DPS, thus it's on DPS loot table
limber fable
I just parked in in Bstance and it's honestly the same. When I start to take dam...
Fair enough
modern brook
We still sit in battle most of the time and just swap to defensive on heavy dama...
Consider dstance a defensive cooldown
And instead of waiting for 2 minutes
You pay for it in damage
If you're not being threatened, sitting in dstance is wasted damage
limber fable
I gotta hotkey a swap macro
modern brook
If your gear/key prog is such that you have to sit the whole key in dstance that's fine
Just make sure it's a cognizant decision and not just afk zzzzz prot op
P sure there's a macro in pins as well that does that btw
The hot swap
tender quartz
Okay did I misunderstand Glacial Fury? I'm looking over Terros Logs
Does it not fall off after the 15 seconds?
opal flame
P sure there's a macro in pins as well that does that btw
yes it's this:
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance```Yeah thanks
naive panther
There's some bosses on Tyr I'll sit distance like Crawth. But even third in temple you just swap for jade serp strike. I might go bstance on crawth when bleeds off me. But most trash I'm bstance, unless there's frequent big hitters can't stop, and at that point I'd just kite a sec if walls down, I've utilized wall pretty frequently almost more than even going dstance on trash.
limber fable
yes it's this:
```#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance...
Thanks !
somber shell
is anyone running spear of bastion in M+ this week to help move away when bolstering gets wild?
plush tendon
no
limber fable
There's some bosses on Tyr I'll sit distance like Crawth. But even third in temp...
That makes sense. 20 Tyr Crawth at 410 ilvl is the boss that is spurring me to re-evaluate my entire playstyle
plush tendon
the key with bolstering is to pull things with similar health amounts, so that they die at roughly the same health % to minimize bolstering
if thats not possible, then funnel damage becomes important
somber shell
what about crackling thunder maybe? heh
I guess the loss of rend application is just too painful
limber fable
the key with bolstering is to pull things with similar health amounts, so that t...
Dps should focus high health mobs too when possible . I know when I was mm I just kept smashing the highest down
plush tendon
oddly enough, this strategy is what dps should be doing everyweek
packs should go down at the same time
somber shell
dont be afraid to face tank a bolstered mob
fair, and I'm not, just thinking creatively about talents this week, haven't used spear in DF at all.. was wondering if it wouldn't be too painful to pick it up, but it looks like it would be
plush tendon
Dragon's roar is just better
somber shell
yes
plush tendon
spear is fine if you like it, but using it as a kite tool is sus
somber shell
and I have MM alt, I use a lot of proactive binding shots and keep highest health target focused... all dps should do stuff like that
plush tendon
besides, what are the potential dangerous bolstered mobs?
somber shell
I just want some of that SL S1 kite meta feel
plush tendon
big shas in Temple, those big serpents in AA, and those book throwers in AV are what come to mind for me
somber shell
besides, what are the potential dangerous bolstered mobs?
most stuff that dangerous is alread micro-kitable, true
plush tendon
actually, AV might be super sus after second boss since those roar dudes
have so much health
somber shell
like the skeletons in SBG or the arcing slash dudes in NO around tempest
heh good poitn
the big elementals in TJS could be annoying as well
vast goblet
actually, AV might be super sus after second boss since those roar dudes
just skip em
get your % before that
you can skip all the trash after the second boss
somber shell
ugh - not in a pug
blazing condor
yeah that part is gonna be ass
cus even if the bolster drops you can get unlucky with a roar
plush tendon
just skip em
yea, but then we cant skip the second ring XD
gonna take some experimenting this week fo sure
and that trash after second was sooo good
vast goblet
i cant stand that section
blazing condor
its better pulls than the rest of the dungeon
plush tendon
maybe its sub rogue time?
lusty tiger
my group will be trying the skip all frogs and jump downt to the two guards before the 3rd boss this week
naive panther
I'm not sure why dps struggle on that. They just need to follow tank. Only get one big charge guy at a time but get frogs into or threw a doorway.
tender quartz
Why do peopel run Glacial Fury on Singletarget in Raids? Habit or did I misread the flask. Thought it's done after 15s
naive panther
But they seem content on getting gang banged by 1 or two mobs 60 yards away
But does sound like aids on bolster
sacred remnant
What do you use instead of Spell Block on keys where its not needed? Is the alternate selection (shieldblock thorns) very good or is there something else we could use?
solar shadow
the other talent on the selection
modern brook
TAN
urban portal
What do you use instead of Spell Block on keys where its not needed? Is the alte...
thorns is good
solar shadow
AA
solemn current
SBG if you don’t want to kite the void slashes much
forest bay
It's nice to have as a backup for AV bosses
solar shadow
there is a sheet that shows you everything you can spell block, i think it's n the guide
strong forum
Just because you can spell Block it, doesn't mean it's good
In AA its absolutely useless
For example
solar shadow
Can you not block the beam on Vex?
strong forum
Sure but what's the point
lofty widget
it does no dmg tho
solar shadow
On what key? it definitely wrecks on 22+ tyran
you do have reflect for every one though, so could be overkill for sure
lofty widget
tried on 22, was chilling with just reflect
solar shadow
thorns DPS is huge for tree pulls
strong forum
Is kinda whack
solar shadow
so i can see it being not worth
lofty widget
besides, if youre taking Spel lblock for one thing it aint worth it imo
sacred remnant
i can see TJS being worth for a lot of the pulls
strong forum
Tjs absolutely
gilded mauve
Guys which items should I upgrade first with valor point ?
strong forum
RLP also good for first section
solar shadow
blocking Dark Claw is giga
sacred remnant
and NO you can use for arcblades and the 3rd area casters
lofty widget
outrange arcblades
strong forum
Arc blade you can outrange
sacred remnant
ah ok
short vale
and NO you can use for arcblades and the 3rd area casters
U can outrange
strong forum
Nokhud is wasted to use spell Block
forest bay
I was thinking the same for RLP, having spellblock for first section and first boss
sacred remnant
then its a waste yes
solar shadow
big pull dungys like NO/AA probably benefit the most from thorns no
meaning spell block loses value
sacred remnant
agreed
strong forum
Nails is always solid dmg
limber fable
Isn't block good for 2nd boss in ruby ?
sacred remnant
i think spell block is needed on high key tyr for first boss in RLP
strong forum
Doesn't work
forest bay
no
strong forum
On 2nd boss rlp
forest bay
2nd boss rlp is physical
mighty valley
searing blows is not magic
rain yew
Spell block should be baked into spell reflect imo.
sacred remnant
2nd boss rlp searing blows always recks me any tips?
lofty widget
check the pins
mighty valley
spell reflect is already one of the best defensives in the game, overloading it more ain't it
solar shadow
2nd boss rlp searing blows always recks me any tips?
run evoker healer, race change to dwarf kek
mighty valley
make sure your healer's aware
forest bay
LS + IP can cover it well
sacred remnant
same with tjs 3rd boss jade kick wrecks me
solar shadow
last night I had a dream where a horde can toggle to be alliance and it would race change you and give you dwarf racial
sacred remnant
i feel rage starved on tjs 3rd boss and i just fall over
forest bay
don't use defensives in phase 1 on TJS 3rd
whole vortex
use buttons better
forest bay
just use spell reflect
solar shadow
3rd boss TJS not fun, you basically save everything for 2nd phase
sacred remnant
p2 i mean not p1
forest bay
you can just SR it
rough egret
Where are the us vaults pics? So i can hype myself for tmrw
sacred remnant
jade is p2
sacred remnant
you can just SR it
is this true? id ont think so
solar shadow
Jade requires CD and. your DPS to blast thru it asap, coordination with healer is big IMO
analog sparrow
Where are the us vaults pics? So i can hype myself for tmrw
Server still down
solar shadow
cant afford to overlap CDs on Jade phase
rough egret
Server still down
Ah 10.0.5.
forest bay
HP pot is big when you have a lapse in defensives, cause it'll knock out a bunch of the heal absorb
mighty valley
you can still use sr for the %dr in jade phase, it just doesn't deflect entirely
forest bay
yes of course
solar shadow
HP pot is big when you have a lapse in defensives, cause it'll knock out a bunch...
ya this is huge, consider hpot a CD on that fight
mighty valley
pot & IV is huge, ask for healer external on another
forest bay
I haven't run that high of a TJS yet, is it ever an option to lust and blow cds on P2?
cause that feels the most dangerous
solar shadow
another big tip on TJS is that, you dont need to run into the boss immediatly
plush tendon
you can
forest bay
oh can't lust cause you need it for last boss
solar shadow
you have like 5 seconds before boss will come to melee you
dont charge the boss immediatly after kick, gives healer much more time to top you
solar shadow
thats not really problematic
mighty valley
lots of lust timing options for tjs
solar shadow
its better than you dieing
solar shadow
DPS take absolutely no damage in that phase unless they are stupid
lofty widget
why do you die by charging the boss huh?
mighty valley
if the boss moves a lot, more of the ground gets covered in green shit
kiting is a giga last resort
solar shadow
by charging the boss, you give it more melee uptime on you and less tiem for healer to top you when youre already like 10%
its not kiting
lofty widget
her melees are insignificant
solar shadow
this provides like, 2 extra GCDs for your healer, which is HUGE, trust
speaking from experience as a pres evoker
sacred remnant
this provides like, 2 extra GCDs for your healer, which is HUGE, trust
sometimes if i dont charge for IP ill die
pug healers arent the best
mighty valley
if you're in range to die to a melee, sure, don't go into melee range immediately
solar shadow
find it hard to believe your rage from charge is the differeniator there, are you saving ravager to top your rage before a jade strike ?
forest bay
I think in higher keys, asking your DPS to hold any >1min CDs for second phase would help a lot
I find the problem with that boss isn't living the first few, it's that you run dry
hazy umbra
Hey mates, i was wondering what are the recommended crafts ? Should i use the lariat ?
lofty widget
1 melee from the boss isnt gonna kill you, but charge+SS might save you
solar shadow
specifically for the one where you dont have mitigation like wall or external from healer, its a big difference maker and requires you to do nothing but stand still
lofty widget
plus the boss doesnt move
solar shadow
youre likely 20-30% hp with a gigant heal absorb on you
forest bay
Hey mates, i was wondering what are the recommended crafts ? Should i use the la...
Check pins, most embelishments end up being ~1% lariet is nice cause it has 3 sockets
hazy umbra
All necks have 3 sockets
forest bay
oh I'm dum
limber fable
I saw someone pop iv every other I think before running out of the circle . I've tried iv health pot iv for the 3 in phase 2
mighty valley
lariat is a bigger diff for offspecs if you do that, belt unlocks fire ring, otherwise all embellishments are roughly the same value
plush tendon
Lariat is nice cause you can choose stats, slap 3 gems in there (including a prim stat so you never have to remake) and the embellishment is decent
mighty valley
that boss must be kinda a joke for bdk, right
plush tendon
but truthfully, we've been bamboozled by the Jewlcrafting cartel
solar shadow
yeah death strike snipes the shield insta
brewmaster can also snipe it with celestial brew
plush tendon
that boss must be kinda a joke for bdk, right
the three bosses that prot warriors hate, blood is swag on
sacred remnant
i have 2p tier rn, is 4p a huge jump?
mighty valley
it's decent defensively
hazy umbra
You can spell Block it and take no initial damage, works for 2 in à row if cast at the right timing
plush tendon
oh thats a nice bleed you have there crawth, good thing my blood shield absorbs it
forest bay
i have 2p tier rn, is 4p a huge jump?
It's noticeable for survival IMO
plush tendon
need to parry some searing blows, look at this dancing weapon of mine
dusky canopy
What’s the most popular uses for Dath trinket?
forest bay
it also helps keep BrV up
dusky canopy
Seems really bait
hazy umbra
Yes so i just craft the slot i have the worst item on, thx
dusky canopy
Immobile for 10 whole seconds
solar shadow
What’s the most popular uses for Dath trinket?
doing big fucking dam
lofty widget
popular uses? its very good dmg
plush tendon
its giga dam
solar shadow
can you charge in Dath trinket? I know you can shadow step and use transcendence on monk
forest bay
What’s the most popular uses for Dath trinket?
Give it to your rogue
plush tendon
giga danagerous
scenic mural
The trinket pumps and is easirr on tanks than dps
plush tendon
its perfect
hazy umbra
Immobile for 10 whole seconds
Good in raid imo
plush tendon
❤️
lofty widget
you cant
mighty valley
you just need to know if the pack does any truly lethal ground effects
lofty widget
just SW if there are
dusky canopy
Use it when off tank?
strong forum
naowh trolled and depleted like 20 keys with boon 
dusky canopy
Probably can’t block during it?
hazy umbra
Probably can’t block during it?
You can, juste rooted
dusky canopy
Ohhh shit
scenic mural
You still cast spells diring it
mighty valley
dps using it on last boss NO is the bane of my existence
hazy umbra
In mm+ its harder to use
hazy umbra
Harder, not Hard 🙂
lofty widget
like, oh boss just did his big thing? time to boon
hazy umbra
plush tendon
whetstone does a similar job
strong forum
i aint playing boon anymore
plush tendon
and is much more versatile
lofty widget
no mainstat on whetstone tho
lofty widget
i used both for a time, but double on-use, and all totem is pmuch same dmg as whetstone+ defense as well
hazy umbra
Does good damage
strong forum
im just whetstone+totem
hazy umbra
And azur vault cause Def cd are Nice aha
strong forum
in pretty much all keys
strong forum
no mainstat on whetstone tho
unironically, i run it also because it has mastery, otherwise id only have 460 mastery
and i dont like my chances with only 15% crit block chance
increasing your effective critblock chance by 30% is quite worth at that level
hazy umbra
When ill get the chance to have it i think ill use ot too 🙂
I love the azur vault trinket though but it seems like im the only one aha
strong forum
ye it doesnt do a whole lot
sacred remnant
I use whetstone and world boss main stat + haste proc trink
395 trink
havent had good luck with trinks
lusty tiger
been running blazebinder + whetstone
viscid plaza
I've been running Blazebinder + Granyth's and it's been pretty rad
I don't care for the lack of control on the scale, but to be honest it procs quite a bit and helps passively, which is nice.
mighty valley
bis trinkets are the ones the game lets you have
lost alltotem to my cotank last raid, but she's great so it's ok
toxic pewter
shucks
bold olive
lost alltotem to my cotank last raid, but she's great so it's ok
Wholesome. 
quiet monolith
does anyone else have trouble with the spell reflect weakaura?
ive reinstalled it multiple times
it makes no sound and has no displat
viscid plaza
Genshii's? I thought it was discontinued/no longer maintained.
timber sphinx
I don’t know if it’s just me… but I feel like I lost agro on big pulls.
Well is not like I lost agro, it’s more like when I pull and the DPS instantly attack, sometime I lost agro from a few mobs and I need to use my taunt.
Anyone have the same problem? Any advice?
naive panther
totem+blazebinder for me for now, would use whetstone likely if I had it, was using bone toe before I got blazebinder, blaze sims high,and feels like i'm trucking when it's up.
woven trellis
is there actual M+ tank trinket u might want to get in your vault orÉ
viscid plaza
totem+blazebinder for me for now, would use whetstone likely if I had it, was us...
I hit SO HARD with hoof on, it's great
woven trellis
?
weary python
All you need is grieftorch. Just grieftorch.
naive panther
blazebinder is nice, but if something else 421 popped up i'd replace it
oh I'm still doing prot for wep and shield
naive panther
but I wouldn't take any of hte prot trinkets from vault
uneven mason
m trying to figure if i do arm or prot vault today
Do you need a shield? - prot, otherwise arms
woven trellis
i have 418 shield and wep sparks
naive panther
could do fury if you have shield and need 1h
uneven mason
I'd do arms
uneven mason
Get a juicy trinket
woven trellis
ikr
unkempt imp
Would you use totem over whispering?
woven trellis
but i was wondering if we had a tank trinket as good as hakkar in bfa
that i could hope to get
or not
i mean i have boon and icon 395 rn
woven trellis
ye ill go arm
viscid plaza
Boon's scary, I don't wanna stand still haha
woven trellis
its fine
u get use to it
u find good windows
even in sanguine i learnt some windows
viscid plaza
I haven't been able to raid much so I have 2piece, I'm hoping for a third piece in vault then to convert and have 4p this week
woven trellis
your dps are only going to thank you for not moving during 10s anyway
cuz they dumb
and dont want to move for dps
uneven mason
Standing still as prot feels wrong
woven trellis
at least once a day
i have someone telling me than real tanks dont move
that theyve played with Naowh or anything and that they facetank packs for 30 sec
its like the flat earth thing
uneven mason
You face tank packs while moving to the next pull
woven trellis
they wont llisten to any rational thoughts
they rly want to believe that there is a world where they can dps on dummies and dont have to learn how to dps while moving
harsh trellis
I try not to move for big pulls if I dont have to so dps doesnt have to worry about moving
woven trellis
ye im doing that as well
harsh trellis
but generally youre constantly moving ever so slowly
uneven mason
I try not to move for big pulls if I dont have to so dps doesnt have to worry ab...
This is why I run with melee
woven trellis
but i know when i get good dps that theyre perfectly fine with moving
uneven mason
Yea
hybrid aurora
you just move everything out of your spriest friend's shadowcrash. Always gets a good reaction in disc.
harsh trellis
if youre sitting there with 1 mob on your and its not a boss fight youre wasting time.
Yeah make sure you move out of the healers gound effects
Druids put this green shit down
fuck that
just move out of it
woven trellis
i always run in circle AROUND Death and decay
harsh trellis
lol
woven trellis
on the outer edge
hybrid aurora
If people are gonna kick when im spell reflecting, they dont deserve to have mobs in their aoe
warm plinth
Yeah make sure the mobs are just barely out of it
woven trellis
so the DK can just chill in it
warm plinth
Oh
hazy bronze
you just move everything out of your spriest friend's shadowcrash. Always gets a...
DH essence break too apparently
warm plinth
I went the other way with that
harsh trellis
also just now looking over the patch notes, not that we are going to be affected that much but itd be nice if blizz made other tank classes stronger rather than effing with prot war
hybrid aurora
also just now looking over the patch notes, not that we are going to be affected...
Unfortunately, this is not the methodology they have ever used
slim dove
also just now looking over the patch notes, not that we are going to be affected...
they literally buffed brew in the same patch.
harsh trellis
they literally buffed brew in the same patch.
Only saw mistweaver notes for monk
didnt see anything for brewmaster
hybrid aurora
brm got some much needed buffs. I still think they need to rework the spec a bit. It went from being a 2 button class to ultra bloat. They've always had issues with magic damage too, which was a much more glaring issue in this season's dungeon pool.
slim dove
Maybe i misread. Regardless, reroll brm, prot is dead, etc etc.
steep condor
prot is dead!?
woven trellis
yes prot is dead
harsh trellis
prot is dead!?
Yep it was a good run.
woven trellis
reroll warlock
slim dove
DEAD
hybrid aurora
prot still wont die
slim dove
6-7% more dmg from blocked hits? its over lads
harsh trellis
we are just rearranging deck chairs on the titanic at this point.
woven trellis
i still find the shield block thing bothering
hybrid aurora
we'll go from taking no physical damage to taking no physical damage
harsh trellis
lol
steep condor
haha deck chair comment had me lol'ing
left hollow
Prot Warrior is stupid OP this expac, it's funny ngl and cool
slim dove
the funny part its not op
was for a bit in beta
after the 5th nerf, prot is just strong and more importantly, fun
daring marlin
BrV needed to be nerfed multiple times. TBH 30% into IP was pretty fuckin' wild.
fallen pulsar
ye, I thought 15% was fine though, especially since we'll be losing tier eventually
fallen pulsar
ye for sure
daring marlin
Maybe they'll revisit with next patch. shrug
hybrid aurora
wonder what changes prot will get in s2
fallen pulsar
I'm saying, BrV is way stronger because of the synergy
warm plinth
We haven't even had a first tier tier set in a long time.
fallen pulsar
with current tier
slim dove
wonder what changes prot will get in s2
4set: you can now block spells
also same patch, spell block (talent) removed
zinc monolith
looking at class hotfixes for 10.0.5 i saw the prot nerfs.. it seems very small..... am i correct in that... whats everyone elses opinion. is this nerf pretty small and meaningless
fallen pulsar
M+: must be 4set warrior, or kick
slim dove
looking at class hotfixes for 10.0.5 i saw the prot nerfs.. it seems very small....
ITS DEAD
hybrid aurora
you are correct
zinc monolith
yeah like my block being 3% from a talent instead of 5% is pretty meaningless for me personally
hybrid aurora
I've gotta find an outlaw rogue to run non-meta comp with me now
because outlaw dead too
hidden ether
All i am seeing for warrior is arms things
harsh trellis
All i am seeing for warrior is arms things
Protection
Brace for Impact now increases block value by 3% (was 5% per stack).
Brutal Vitality now causes 10% of the damage you deal to add to your Ignore Pain (was 15%).
Shield Specialization now increases block value by 12% per rank (was 15%).
Developers’ notes: Protection Warriors are currently dominating tank populations. While we do want all tanks to feel powerful, our data and overall perceptions of tanks put Protection Warriors ahead of the pack. We’re making some small talent adjustments that are overbudget to help address this.
uneven mason
looking at class hotfixes for 10.0.5 i saw the prot nerfs.. it seems very small....
I'm confused why they're nerfing us, just buff the other tanks ....oh wait they are, seems very right hand doesn't know what the left is doing
hybrid aurora
Protection Warriors are currently dominating tank populations - so if we're going to disappoint players, it has to be a large enough sample size to get big forum engagement
uneven mason
"perception"
fallen pulsar
idk the nerf is so minor that it just feels like throwing a bone to the loud complainers
since it's not immediately obvious how much of a nerf it is to people not playing
hybrid aurora
i doubt we'll notice the nerf, just like the last one
uneven mason
They're starting to add up
fallen pulsar
meh
hybrid aurora
I feel like VDH took the biggest hit in the last tank nerf. So much so that their recent buff was not enough to negate it.
fallen pulsar
I think we'll still be strong and feel fine lmao
uneven mason
Like we're getting just as demolished as the other tanks by actual tank mechanics
lusty tiger
They do owe us a cracked tier set imo
fallen pulsar
this only matters to blockable damage
uneven mason
I feel like VDH took the biggest hit in the last tank nerf. So much so that thei...
BRM would like a word
fallen pulsar
and we only get wrekt by non blockable damage
like crawth
or RLP bleed
so this doesnt change much
hidden ether
Yeah the IP nerf is a big hit on that one though
fallen pulsar
in our big struggle points
strong forum
brm is literally fine
fallen pulsar
its not that big
hybrid aurora
BRM would like a word
BrM came into the expansion in a less than optimal state. I'd say VDH was feeling really good going into DF and then got brought down a few pegs.
fallen pulsar
just less passive gen
nimble abyss
Developers’ notes: Protection Warriors are currently dominating tank populations due to setting off our fun factor alerts. While we do want all tanks to feel powerful, our data and overall perceptions of tanks put Protection Warriors ahead by a six-pack. We’re making some small talent adjustments that are overbudget to help address this and bring them down a bottle, because we still havent figured out how to bring others up and nerfing is easier to say than we made other tanks bettererer... .... .FIXED
strong forum
its just people doomposting 24/7
cuz they are too used to dumbfuck ez brm
especially after sl s3/s4
hidden ether
I just dont want tanks to go back to the kitting meta, that was awful
uneven mason
BrM came into the expansion in a less than optimal state. I'd say VDH was feelin...
BRM was already getting destroyed and then they removed their 10% mitigation
lusty tiger
The rework from bfa->slands made brm cringe so they got a completely cracked tierset
nimble abyss
Kiting should never be a tank mechanic....change my mind
fallen pulsar
disagree, to an extent
hidden ether
Kiting should never be a tank mechanic....change my mind
Kiting should never be a tank Default
hybrid aurora
i hated playing vdh in df s1. Kiting meta.
uneven mason
...
reef holly
Unpopular opinion- I don’t mind kiting
lusty tiger
Uptime…
uneven mason
I think kiting is great fun in the spring
fallen pulsar
Do I want to kite literally everything? No. Does kiting as an occasional mechanic make tanking more interesting? I think so.
harsh trellis
we just went full circle from moving to not moving to back to moving .
strong forum
kiting is a cheap cop out of ignoring mechanics that are BEYOND overtuned.
and it shouldnt be a thing
that you need to kite a mechanic
fallen pulsar
Ye if I'm kiting because the ability is overtuned, then it's less fun. If I'm kiting because it's an intended mechanic to kite then it's good imo
lusty tiger
why should my melee character not be allowed in melee because autoattacks
fallen pulsar
Because target dummies are pretty boring? Needing to interact with the game in more ways than standing still and being a rotation bot spices things up imo
somber shell
Ye if I'm kiting because the ability is overtuned, then it's less fun. If I'm ki...
There needs to be more telegraphing of these kitable mechanics, like the arcing slash in NO trash, or the dark claw in TJS, or whatever those skeletons on SBG do. A lot of stuff can be sidestepped or microkited but there's no indication really.
hybrid aurora
I don't think kiting is the answer to that. Our toolkit has plenty of stops, utility, cds to make things interesting
prisma crow
the higher the key, the more i feel like me doing explosions is griefing
fallen pulsar
I think kiting can be interesting, I dont think blizz normally handles it well though
lusty tiger
there are ranged mobs, charging mobs we can charge, casters, kick immune... but autoattacks is a tank only mechanic that incentivizes 0 interaction
somber shell
the difference on some of those mechcanis, right now is: back up 5 years, life, stand still die
lyric grail
Speaking of kiting. Anyone have a list of abilities that you can strafe/backstep like Void Slash in SBG, Severing Slash in AA, Ice Cutter in Azure Vaults, etc.
somber shell
and they're just non-kickable casts that doen't really imply the danger they present on fortified / high keys
cinder storm
My healer made me laugh I promptly died from three void slash
I like adds that have positional mechanics
dapper vapor
Human or Dwarf?
fallen pulsar
Dwarf bleed cleanse is better imo
than human stun cancel
but play whatever you like aesthetically more
nimble abyss
Yeah, stoneform is nice
lavish oracle
Might be a stupid question but if you reflect the first part of the tank combo on the last boss of nokhud, could a dps warrior taunt and reflect the 2nd part for 500% increased damage?
fallen pulsar
the only times I want human racial is when my pug group fails thundering lol
but that shouldnt be happening
nimble abyss
I know, should be easier now with the hotfix I imagine , now they can clear and not run up to me and i can stay charged
lofty widget
Might be a stupid question but if you reflect the first part of the tank combo o...
in theory, yes
undone wind
On last boss of NO P2, is it better the reflect the first or 2nd hit of his tank buster combo?
lofty widget
1st
mighty valley
On last boss of NO P2, is it better the reflect the first or 2nd hit of his tank...
conductive
lavish oracle
in theory, yes
I've gotta try this
fallen pulsar
really? I though thundering would do more damage to boss
strong forum
hell no
fallen pulsar
than the conductive
amber siren
thundering only does massive damage because conducitve gives it 500% bonus
strong forum
thundering strike does like 50k
mighty valley
thundering only shreds if you have the debuff
undone wind
conductive
is that 1st?
strong forum
conductive strike does millions
fallen pulsar
ahhhh
strong forum
fallow beacon
conductive is 1st yes
fallow beacon
you will start topping damage if you relfect conductive on that fight
fallen pulsar
ye its conductive -> thundering
lofty widget
in a 21
nimble abyss
I keep telling myself to try it, but in the midst I forget 😦 cause im old
quartz briar
There needs to be more telegraphing of these kitable mechanics, like the arcing ...
I think ff makes their markers so easily visile for stuff like this, I don't think the aesthetic lines up but something closer to that would be nice
rain edge
yo, 406 ilvl with 415 wep, just wondering, frozen devotion or sophic devotion?
mainly m+ but also some raid
fallow beacon
sophic
torpid junco
Same exact helm; would you wear 421 ilvl or 415 ilvl with indestructible and a socket
strong forum
421
nimble abyss
^ 421 definitely
torpid junco
Crafting prio just weakest slot at this point ?
fallen pulsar
assuming you have: 2 embellishment, a good weapon, and good shield
then yeah probably
strong forum
im still using 385 boots 🥹
fallen pulsar
oof
stoic pilot
torpid junco
I should get 2 set 😞
fallen pulsar
I'm excited to have 4 set without sacrificing ilvl in m+ this week 🙂
currently use a 16 ilvl weaker shoulder in m+ to maintain 4set
nimble abyss
https://raider.io/characters/us/mugthol/Kuzo
curious, did you get your scale to drop or vault? We run nokud every chance we can , 3 of us have trinkets we want from there.. but no trinkets for any of us after weeks of multiple runs
torpid junco
I got scale from vault
solar shadow
you will start topping damage if you relfect conductive on that fight
wait so don't dispel?
strong forum
why would you farm scale
strong forum
wait so don't dispel?
? you dont get debuff if you reflect conductive
fallow beacon
wait so don't dispel?
you spell reflect and dont get the debuff
solar shadow
? you dont get debuff if you reflect conductive
i mean, let debuff sit, reflect second
naive panther
Yeah I luckily got heroic shoudler last night, was going to change my 421 shoulder today, but now I'll just change my 421 chest to get 4 pc
strong forum
i mean, let debuff sit, reflect second
thats terrible to do
fallen pulsar
no it turns out, thats bad
fallow beacon
take tiny hit from thundering
fallen pulsar
and I am therefore prot trash
solar shadow
was wondering if 500% would apply to. your reflect
strong forum
thundering does 50k
fallen pulsar
scoop me up and throw me out
torpid junco
You can reflect every conductive strike
strong forum
no it wont
reflecting conductive
gives the boss the dot it does
and does MILLIONS of damage
solar shadow
ah i see
strong forum
thunder strike does 50k
solar shadow
dope
fallow beacon
also yeah dont farm scale, doggy doo doo trinket
warm plinth
bring war friend, reflect both big brain
strong forum
very risky
lofty widget
mordretha flashbacks
solar shadow
taunting! shield wall! dies
warm plinth
Eh, I did it with a friend; it was pretty safe. I taunted while conductive was casting, he taunted while thunder was casting
ezpz
solar shadow
optimal DPS strategy is running grieftorch and sacrificing your party
torpid junco
What m plus trinkets would you run over scale ?
nimble abyss
lol love that
strong forum
literally any
warm plinth
What m plus trinkets would you run over scale ?
trampling hooves, whetstone, blazebinder's
lavish oracle
bring 5 prot warriors
🧠
fallen pulsar
how to feed someone a top warcraftlogs parse. Step 1: grieftorch, Step 2: Tactical deaths
warm plinth
inb4 WCL has to add a new column for grieftorch casts
pallid quiver
I'm telling you, I'm not allowed to have a grieftorch
strong forum
parsing will be dominated by grieftorching ye
lavish oracle
Dragon games equipment is a lot better now that you don't have to have your head up your targets ass to kick the balls
warm plinth
Me with grieftorch: turns mob around quickly when frontal happens
void marten
are halls of valor nerfs live on eu?
fallow beacon
servers are up in 3h from now ye?
sick sentinel
i am happy they are nerfing professions
uneven mason
i am happy they are nerfing professions
Wat
torpid junco
How come more people don’t run the talent that gives you 2 charges of shield wall?
sick sentinel
knowledge requirements is reduced
warm plinth
How come more people don’t run the talent that gives you 2 charges of shield wal...
You get more Shield Walls with the other talent. You only run 2 charges of wall if you need shield wall twice in a very short period.
oak echo
How come more people don’t run the talent that gives you 2 charges of shield wal...
you bring it for certain bosses in m+ but otherwise it's not as good
torpid junco
Feels like I’m tyran you do
warm plinth
Depends on the dungeon
torpid junco
In
uneven mason
knowledge requirements is reduced
That's a buff
oak echo
even on tyran i don't use it outside of RLP or TJS i'm pretty sure
sullen girder
you guys ready for that badass flail transmog for our prot looks from the trading post?!
sick sentinel
nothing has changed with profs really overall
torpid junco
You can get more stuff with less points in profession treee ?
sick sentinel
no
uneven mason
Skill to obtain the unlocks
warm plinth
They are reducing SKILL requirements to open specialties. Which if you're already 100 in your profession, it means literally nothing.
SKILL
sick sentinel
nothing has changed
oak echo
yeah all they did was allow you to explore the tree faster while leveling it up
warm plinth
Exactly
uneven mason
They are reducing SKILL requirements to open specialties. Which if you're alrea...
Yeah I'm 75 smithing because all the shit I can skill up on takes sparks, and reforging doesn't provide skillups
Even though it says it can
nimble abyss
took BS to 100 with master hammers, takes a ton of mats but was the only one of my toons able to go to 100 without using sparks
uneven mason
took BS to 100 with master hammers, takes a ton of mats but was the only one of ...
That's an obscene amount of ore
uneven mason
Like I priced it out at 75k to just get 25skill
oak echo
i do wish they made getting to 100 more accessible on a lot of the crafting profs but it's not the end of the world if you're not already someone who's investing a ton of energy into the system anyways
gusty crane
Can you heroic leap to interrupt the adds on razageth
nimble abyss
ah I have a farmer toon I break out when no M+ / questing going on, mindless routes but tons of ores/awakeened. Not for everybody mind you, but i find farming mats relaxing lol.. now rep grinds.. that will make my head explode.. go figure
gusty crane
I could swear I saw it happen but it makes no sense
rotund thicket
Can you heroic leap to interrupt the adds on razageth
you have a log?
nimble abyss
i do wish they made getting to 100 more accessible on a lot of the crafting prof...
Yeah thats the problem, unless you're willing to spam your work in trade chat instead of playing the game, then you get no work other than the occasional guild order because nobody is going to put thier spark up in public order without the ability to put a minimal quality request.. yet bliz stated public orders are working as intended.. So i'm guessing blank on all my toons except for my inscriptionist who can fill out 20 orders for draconic treastise..
cyan shale
We ever get a verdict on Ruby Whelpling? I have that and Puzzle Box. Not sure which one to run until I get better.
median tulip
Is it me, or does the last boss in Azure Vault have two tank buster moves?
oak echo
just the dragon strike which you can reflect a little more than half of them
slim dove
just the dragon strike which you can reflect a little more than half of them
can reflect them all if you fire off reflect before she starts casting it.
quaint folio
Is it me, or does the last boss in Azure Vault have two tank buster moves?
Other than that claw strike, I don't recall what the second tank buster is
slim dove
Risky but worth imo
round pendant
what should I unspec for Intervene 🤔
median tulip
Other than that claw strike, I don't recall what the second tank buster is
He does an Arcane damage and knockback thing that really hurts
oak echo
can reflect them all if you fire off reflect before she starts casting it.
not all but close yeah. sometimes if you push the crystal %s at the wrong time you won't have reflect up in time
lofty widget
what should I unspec for Intervene 🤔
pain and gain most likely
pliant geyser
so even for 6+ mobs should i be doing slam every single time its up prio, even if it resets and im doing like slam>slam>clap>slam and or is there some point at which i should prioritize clap and revenge so long as i have enough rage, and throw in slam every now and then?**
uneven mason
Can't you just out range the strike
oak echo
on AV dragon? no it's like 100 yards
i've leaped to africa to move the boss and he'll still cast it and hit you
lofty widget
so even for 6+ mobs should i be doing slam every single time its up prio, even i...
pulls like the one before tree boss in AV you can do TC>rev>TC>rev
otherwise you still hit SS on cd
pliant geyser
okay thats what i was thinking
uneven mason
Not pressing ss sacrifices a lot of rage
earnest nymph
I know the pin covers that BrV will likely still be better if you have 4set, but if you don't have 4set do we think FbV will be the play? I'm not going to have 4set till next week at minimum
pliant geyser
i wonder what the average tipping point for that is though, like if ever youre over 6 or over 8 mobs
lofty widget
6 or 8 is way too low
like 20+ probably
not a realistic amount in most cases
and usually there are prio mobs which you wanna SS anyways
hidden ether
What are your guys thoughts for the week? good push week or no?
uneven mason
I'm hoping for legs and then I can convert my shoulders
oak echo
it's fine if you can manage bolstering but some pulls will definitely suck
hidden ether
atleast its not bolstering tyr
fallen pulsar
yeah if bolster is done well, I dont think its terrible. But done poorly it will be oof
lofty widget
I know the pin covers that BrV will likely still be better if you have 4set, but...
doesnt matter much, probably still BrV
pliant geyser
how do you guys feel about the nerfs? i feel like it wont be that noticeable, but im not super sure
fallen pulsar
lusty tiger
Risky but worth imo
is there a dbm timer?
hidden ether
I cant think of any major pulls that would be an issue, maybe a few in RLP's?
viscid plaza
Yeah gotta get your folks to focus down things together I think.
oak echo
but most of those pulls are small in target count at least
viscid plaza
I think it's going to be more of an issue for the 9-14 crowd where you still have to, for some damn reason, teach people the mechanics.
Higher and coordinated groups will probably have no issue from bolster imo
hidden ether
Cant do the big pre first boss pull on RLP or HOV unless your group is really good at killing same
hidden ether
Sometimes I feel like healers forget we exist, ill be at half health waiting for VR to come off CD with zero heals incoming
viscid plaza
we're strong like ox and smart like rocks
oak echo
healers don't have it very easy rn. if they think they can ignore the tank they will 100% of the time
stone condor
i want to craft elemental lariat but i already have weapon and belt and someone told me i can only have two
oak echo
you can only have 2 embellishments, not 2 crafted pieces
earnest nymph
you can only have two embellished pieces
viscid plaza
i want to craft elemental lariat but i already have weapon and belt and someone ...
you can only have two embellishments
earnest nymph
there isn't a limit on regular crafted pieces
viscid plaza
I have two rings, weapon, and shield because i got m+ bis neck and said yolo
fallen pulsar
yeah I''m not jealous of healers in high keys lmao there's so much unavoidable damage that need to be healed for the DPS to not implode
solar shadow
so you guys saw the changes? we spam cast Slam now, i'm very excited
fallen pulsar
and they usually get pushed into doing the mechanics nobody else wants to deal with
earnest nymph
honestly my crafting methodolgy was to craft whatever was the most impactful mainstat pieces that didn't occupy tier slots
then lariat
solar shadow
Protection: casting Slam now provides 100% block chance during cast
viscid plaza
so you guys saw the changes? we spam cast Slam now, i'm very excited
huhhhh!?
lmaooooo
fallen pulsar
`Protection: casting Slam now provides 100% block chance during cast`
what lol
modern brook
my guy joined the server to throw that one out there
undone verge
That would be hell lol
modern brook
oak echo
this is why nobody trusts class discords
fallen pulsar
I dont think so
solar shadow
nah im trolling
earnest nymph
I figured
solar shadow
imagine the possibilities
earnest nymph
none
fallen pulsar
.1 seconds of 100% block seems terrible
viscid plaza
imagine the possibilities
sweats in rage starved
oak echo
can't imagine because the wording of it is so awful it doesn't make sense
ocean yoke
how am I gonna press slam if I'm using whirlwind though 
earnest nymph
it wouldn't change anything at all
solar shadow
how am I gonna press slam if I'm using whirlwind though <:sadge:8202023633598546...
big L for whirlwind enjoyers across the globe
fallen pulsar
I think whirlwind needs this buff: Whirlwind provides 100% speed boost when pressed 😎 🏎️
solar shadow
WW has a very satisfying sound effect, don't ask me how i know
stone condor
if i have more embellishments which ones are chosen then
fallen pulsar
?
viscid plaza
i have the potion one and armor spikes
oak echo
you just don't get to wear them if you already have 2 equipped
viscid plaza
and the alchemical flavor pocket because it doesn't count against the total
fallen pulsar
you cant equip more than 2, it'll stop you
oak echo
you have to remove a piece or recraft the embellishment off of it
earnest nymph
^^
stone condor
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/tarren-mill/Meeresrestin explain this then
fallen pulsar
what the sword?
earnest nymph
I see two embellishments
fallen pulsar
well fed buff doesnt count
stone condor
ah
fallen pulsar
it's not marked as an embellishment
stone condor
nice
fallen pulsar
ye, its super nice to have
viscid plaza
Like i just said haha
fallen pulsar
makes my raid and m+ food last forever
solar shadow
I'm name changing my warrior from Burgahw to Burgahww
viscid plaza
Alchemical Flavor pocket superiority
fallen pulsar
agree
viscid plaza
it's on my sword too
viscid plaza
I like the headcanon of eating a little snacky snack off my hilt while I'm blocking
oak echo
how much did yall spend on flavor pocket or like what was your limit on saying "this is definitely not worth it"
viscid plaza
it's a dinner plate
COSPLAY GOD
oak echo
i can't justify it yet lol
viscid plaza
how much did yall spend on flavor pocket or like what was your limit on saying "...
I found one
sturdy sable
I just got mine
fallen pulsar
20k to never have to re-food mid m+? hella worth it for me.
fallen pulsar
mine was 20k lol
viscid plaza
Worth tbh
modern brook
u can just not die for free
earnest nymph
I mean
earnest nymph
food is insanely cheap
viscid plaza
u can just not die for free
dont be ridiculous
earnest nymph
I bought 1000 for like nothing in the first couple weeks
fallen pulsar
but 10 seconds of my life every death isn't free 😦
dense coral
Hey Gamers, should I gem something else then 88+ haste after 32% or. still go for Haste ?
solar shadow
Hey Gamers, should I gem something else then 88+ haste after 32% or. still go fo...
Haste + Vers is higher stat budget, probably that
strong forum
food is insanely cheap
now its 110k
earnest nymph
for what
solar shadow
I'm not sure that single stat gems are ever worth it
strong forum
food embellish
modern brook
one stat gems are generally worse cause its smaller stat budget
lofty widget
it's 150k on my dead server...
earnest nymph
right
strong forum
unless you mean LITERAL food
lofty widget
hoping it just drops
earnest nymph
yes
fallen pulsar
got mine on the cheap then 😎
modern brook
just sim yourself
earnest nymph
that's what I was saying, the food itself is super cheap
dense coral
Thanks ❤️
modern brook
as per literally every gear question
fallen pulsar
food itself is cheap
strong forum
yeah the food embellish is absolutely not worth it anymore
earnest nymph
^^
oak echo
yeah i missed out on getting it before everyone realized it's not a real embeliishment =/
it was like 40k that one week and i waited on it
modern brook
it got changed
dense coral
Got mine first week for 10k
oak echo
it comes from the weekly feast quest
dense coral
hehe ❤️
uneven mason
Who can make them?
viscid plaza
it comes from the weekly feast quest
ohhh
uneven mason
Or it's a drop
viscid plaza
That makes sense
fallen pulsar
flavor pocket superiority 😎 never have to waste 10 seconds
viscid plaza
flavor pocket superiority 😎 never have to waste 10 seconds
eh I still have to waste 10 seconds waiting on my party to eat 😦
fallen pulsar
sounds like they should have gotten a flavor pocket
viscid plaza
Yes.
fallen pulsar
-pulling intensifies-
modern brook
every single perosn who has ever said "i dont have to wait 10s between pulls" has been the singular cause we arent just pull timering insta after each pull
my guys FRATERNIZING talking like his flavorpacket is saving time
mean while we're on minute fucking two of a work story
deft hazel
I type "r" and of they don't respond in 2 secs I pull 
modern brook
and i killed two feasts myself
viscid plaza
XD
lusty tiger
"inc"
fallen pulsar
i spam w to edge forwards, if after the 10th step nobody has done anything, we charging in
oak echo
meanwhile the group is like "what does r me-- oh shit"
hybrid aurora
r = roblox, yeah?
fallen pulsar
nono, it means runescape
oak echo
i spam w to edge forwards, if after the 10th step nobody has done anything, we c...
this but with healer mana. if i don't see you drinking after a few back and forth strafes IMMEDIATELY after dropping combat that's my queue
fallen pulsar
as in, looking for runescape gf
urban bane
no no it is a programming language for statistics
strong forum
r is ricardo
deft hazel
lusty tiger
r for rub my...
uneven mason
eh I still have to waste 10 seconds waiting on my party to eat 😦
I reamed the last dude who bitched about not being able to eat after a wipe/res like bitch that 67 vers didn't stop your dumbass from standing in stupid before
deft hazel
urban bane
we dont speak about that <@128424443625078784>
ok uh.... no no it is the Pearson correlation coefficient
fallen pulsar
stop hitting college flashbacks of cursed topics
earnest nymph
guys... r is a letter ffs
shrewd saffron
hello friends! I'm wondering if someone could peep some logs for me and help me understand prot warriors better
Idk if this is the correct place to do that, if not sorry
lusty tiger
hello friends! I'm wondering if someone could peep some logs for me and help me ...
drop em in
shrewd saffron
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/k9g8XFQpDtaLMcyP Guild is just going into endgame heroic, and starting mythic
I'm not the prot warrior in question but i feel his healing is low, and as one of the healers he feels way rippier than i would expect
fallen pulsar
is he sitting in dstance?
his cpm is low
needs to press his buttons more in general
lusty tiger
especially shield slam
fallen pulsar
he's probably rage starved from how little he's slamming
tell him to take off interrupting shout and thunderlord
and put in at least champions bulwark for shield charge
would take off 1 point of overwhelming rage and spec into 2nd point of cruel strikes.
lofty widget
cant do that
fallen pulsar
champions bulwark not being talented is the biggest offender imo
lusty tiger
yes
fallen pulsar
increases shield block, and generates a ton of rage
which gets turned into healing
shrewd saffron
winter glade
This build for raz is very questionable at best lol
fallen pulsar
also, his blocked hits is low, only 78%
so he's not having shield block up
which mitigates a lot of damage
shrewd saffron
what about the eranog kill? We had a lot of unrelated problems on raz
fallen pulsar
and increases his damage
winter glade
Hes also running tough as nails on raz instead of spell block which is bad
lusty tiger
im p sure you wanna look at the 2nd hits column, since the first one counts swings that get parried or dodged
fallen pulsar
same critique talent wise. he runs the same talents
lofty widget
he just needs to hit his buttons on CD
lusty tiger
but still low
tender cove
so guild is inviting me for azure 20 weekly but im bit worried about last boss tbh.
Can you just plant on ledge now with change to thundering?
lofty widget
thats gonna solve like 90% of his problems
tender cove
whats the idea with the ledge? all balls just clump up on me?
lofty widget
whats the idea with the ledge? all balls just clump up on me?
yea they spawn a lot closer to the boss
so theyre easier to get to
earnest nymph
not the balls, the shards
lofty widget
shards, right
fallen pulsar
he's generally not pressing enough buttons and also not pressing the correct ones. His talents could also use work
tender cove
how do you deal with the balls then?
lofty widget
pray they dont target you
earnest nymph
don't move more than you have to, heroic leap, healer dispel
lofty widget
although with the nerf to the slow you can outrun them even at 10 stacks
winter glade
The balls you can hang on the ledge but they some times come up to you, you can leap away until they get close, than dispel and run back
tender cove
what dispel?
next burrow
Yoy cut off half the map, so they only spawn on one side, @tender cove after a while they will clump up u run to the other side, if healer doesnt dispel use thundering buff
winter glade
so more button presses, specifically shield slam
Yes, he seems to not be using his buttons like at all? Which can be caused by his spec, he looks to be really rage starved. he needs to shield block and shield slam alot more
fallen pulsar
sidnote: do you have to time a 20 to get the teleport stone? or just finish it
earnest nymph
time
winter glade
Yes time it
lofty widget
what about the eranog kill? We had a lot of unrelated problems on raz
waht his casts should be vs what his casts are
basically missing half his buttons
hybrid aurora
and ports only work per character, so you'll need to refarm them on your brewmaster this week
earnest nymph
I am finally leveling my monk which was my main for a few years prior to this patch since they were kinda DOA on DF launch
solar shadow
See you guys in the brewmaster discord, Burgahww out 🫡
winter glade
woo Nando, prot is not even close to dead lol
fallen pulsar
(its a joke)
mighty valley
i don't want to go, can't we just rename this channel brewmaster
shrewd saffron
waht his casts should be vs what his casts are
which one of these is "should be"
fallen pulsar
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sturdy sable
Yeah I'm pretty sure everyone is being sarcastic @winter glade
winter glade
I couldnt tell since ive seen some people actually saying that
fallen pulsar
the one with double the actions per minute