would a WA spell reflect alert for 3 stacks of Deathspike on Bloodfury give enough notice?
#protection
nimble laurel
warm plinth
It blocks all spells for 20 seconds. Meaning blocks, not prevents/makes you immune to.
You still need to keep Shield Block active for the duration to guarantee blocking.
warm plinth
You know what Shield Block does right
sick sentinel
we block autos?
warm plinth
Yes, but block means you're reducing them, not like...not taking them. It's not like dodge or parry where you completely avoid the damage.
warm plinth
Does Spell block work?
Only on the initial hit. DoTs cannot be blocked.
warm plinth
It's an option
It still mitigates the initial hit which can help you stay stable while you/the healer work to get the absorb off.
It's a good option in the dungeon anyway because of the trash in the 3rd/4th boss room
So you'll get use out of it regardless.
deft hazel
i did so much dmg to explosives but my groups dmg to explosive was mia
rapid rover
Probably dumb question but does IP mitigation work as blocks 50% of the shield damage then the rest of the damage bleeds through for 100% or if you have IP shield it blocks 50% until the next attack on an unshielded warrior.
I assume its the prior.
Trying to gauge how valuable 4set is.
warm plinth
Probably dumb question but does IP mitigation work as blocks 50% of the shield d...
Say you have a 50k absorb via Ignore Pain. You take a 25k hit. 12.5k goes to the absorb shield leaving you with 37.5k remaining on your Ignore Pain. The other 12.5k goes to your HP.
rapid rover
Ahh that makes more sense.
warm plinth
If you had a 50k absorb and took a 150k hit, it would mitigate 50k (since that's all the IP you have) and you'd take the other 100k, since you didn't have enough to mitigate the entire half.
rapid rover
Ah cool. So 4sets handy but not absolutely game breaking
warm plinth
It's much stronger in keys than it is in raid.
rapid rover
Managed to get my first piece outside of the vault last night so should hit 4set upon reset from either vault or crafted
warm plinth
The beauty of the 4-set is that it will create its own IP if there isn't one, and it synergizes beautifully with our Brutal Vitality talent.
rapid rover
Yeah smart so basically constant ip without the rage cost
warm plinth
Yeah, not that you won't press IP anyway to prevent rage overcap but it's a solid defensive gain just the same.
rapid rover
Trying to break into 20+ but hovering around 18s
cinder nova
Finally got AOTC with a 4/8M pug alt group
Their RL was doing like 28K as PPally tho, kinda disappointing
I'm just glad to have the kill tho
amber meteor
how are you guys living the searing blows in ruby
lone eagle
Super late reply to this
While others covered the basics, I'd take a look at your IP keybind
my intuition is that if you are capping rage that constantly your IP isn't on as accessible a keybind
warm plinth
how are you guys living the searing blows in ruby
Rotate CDs and pucker your butthole, or bring a prevoker that isn't half brain-dead and coast
lone eagle
It should ideally be something you can hit constantly off the GCD
gloomy turret
wall, demo + IV- reflect, LS, healer - healer external +demo + IV.. Wall, Reflect + IV
lone eagle
Whether that's a mouse button, or R or something
gloomy turret
theres always a combo of something u can use togethor
quaint forum
How often is Thunderous Roar used? On CD?
gloomy turret
can use rally in one if no external.
warm plinth
Everything is on CD
lone eagle
How often is Thunderous Roar used? On CD?
basically on CD but you can more or less line it up with Avatar most times without trying too hard
warm plinth
unless shit is dying soon
lone eagle
if you have to wait like 30s, prob too long unless adds are spawning soon or something
but if its like 3-4s of waiting, its prob worth to wait for the avatar to come up
If you don't take Thunderlord you can more or less guarantee every one is buffed by demo shout as well
although if you have 1m CD version talented you might not
quaint forum
Fair enough, brand new to tanking, so just wanting to get stuff right haha
noble loom
should i upgrade my 392 unstable arcane loop crit/haste/avoidance or just keep my cobalt ring instead and wait for something better?
i'd be waiting till tuesday to do any upgrades though
tame jasper
should i upgrade my 392 unstable arcane loop crit/haste/avoidance or just keep m...
First upgrade gear that gives you mainstat and armor
Before upgrading rings that only gives you secondaries and stamina
ionic fern
wall, demo + IV- reflect, LS, healer - healer external +demo + IV.. Wall, Refle...
Reflect does nothing, since it's a bleed, not magic damage.
You can run double wall for that boss and if you have it, Eranogs absorb trinket.
quaint forum
Is DBM better than BigWigs for tanking?
lofty widget
it's preference
rough egret
Ability is there, like imagine how would you counter attack that makes you bleed, parry it 😄
quaint forum
Doesn't DBM tell you when to taunt? Figured that'd be useeful for someone newer
lofty widget
yeah it does in raid
clear pasture
is 4pc worth 13 ilvls?
warm plinth
Like on one piece I'm guessing? @clear pasture
inner rock
I would never have guessed you could spell reflect dragon strike on TAV last boss in a million year. Just happened to hear the sound effect.
clear pasture
Like on one piece I'm guessing? <@189987894763454466>
upgrading 402 shoulders to 411 heroic tier and downgrading 395 chest to 382 raid finder tier
ionic fern
I would never have guessed you could spell reflect dragon strike on TAV last bos...
There's a whole list of things you can reflect in the pins..
warm plinth
Worth it, in keys at least
ionic fern
@warm plinth you're the leveling expert..
What's the fastest from 50-60?
little sigil
anyone elses Genshii's ignore pain tracker broken since today? numbers seem to be fucked constantly/doesnt update properly
warm plinth
<@255696891000389633> you're the leveling expert..
What's the fastest from 50-60...
WoD intro/starting area if you haven't done it yet on the toon
Otherwise I'd probably do Aszuna in Legion
warm plinth
Questing is always the fastest my friend
ionic fern
Hoped there was some "Oh, go cheese this and get 60 in 2 minutes".
warm plinth
There's people advertising 10-60 PLing but I don't know how they're doing it. I know people do 60-70 at the cobalt assembly place but I have no idea what they're doing for 10-60
Unless Freehold is somehow more accessible again but I kinda doubt it
warm plinth
50-60 is hella fast anyway
ionic fern
I played so poorly in the AA 23 we did yesterday that i decided to level a BDK.
warm plinth
I was doing it sub 1 hour in pre-patch
ionic fern
warm plinth
oof
limpid anchor
Doesn't DBM tell you when to taunt? Figured that'd be useeful for someone newer
I think it just encourages hand holding and reduces your flexibility
And all the taunt swaps are „ swap at 5“ „swap at 1“
Shouldn’t need a voice to tell you
warm plinth
I remember doing Harjatan back in Legion and DBM telling me to swap at 2 stacks 
gilded tide
Anyone know % of how good prot warrior 2 set / 4 set is
worthy haven
The age of prot warrior is ending, and the age of brewmaster is beginning...SHITS ABOUT TUH GO DOOOOOOOOOOWN
warm plinth
2 set is well, 4%
limpid anchor
Anyone know % of how good prot warrior 2 set / 4 set is
About 4%
warm plinth
4 set is a survival bonus so putting a number on it is...difficult to say the least
It's worth dropping ilevel for in M+ though
warm plinth
5% leech is kinda misstating it though, since it also has giga synergy with Brutal Vitality
gilded tide
It’s deffo worth it to get that’s the main thing
remote venture
Are people just memeing the prot warrior nerf is bad? It don't look so bad for me. Playing around +12 keys
lofty widget
check the pins
ionic fern
The age of prot warrior is ending, and the age of brewmaster is beginning...SHIT...
We can only hope.
worthy haven
Perception
But honestly I love being the dark horse, so the knowledge that from Tuesday the brew population is probably going to double annoys me
My haste on my monk is like 260, my crit is 4400 😄
harsh spruce
What % you on?
remote venture
I dont know how brewmaster is beginning its been very strong from launch
I heard it was the weastest from Dorkis ranked video but it was moved up again. So it was never weak
jagged pier
I heard it was the weastest from Dorkis ranked video but it was moved up again. ...
it was never weak just hard to play
warm plinth
tier videos, very trustworthy
harsh spruce
I’m currently 30%
jagged pier
which is why u should never just follow ppls tier lists
they dont spend enough time on each class
worthy haven
Nah I know it won't change that much, people who main warrior are too deep into the season, and also brewm is very hard to learn
jagged pier
in beta 99% of the prots streamers were playing prot wrong
worthy haven
To be fair tho, it does such ungodly amounts of damage that even if you fuck up the dps rotation massively, you still slap
ionic fern
in beta 99% of the prots streamers were playing prot wrong
Even now 99% of prot warriors are playing wrong
remote venture
it was never weak just hard to play
He mentions that Brewmaster is hard to play as well.
ionic fern
.
jagged pier
well yer true mwahi
jagged pier
He mentions that Brewmaster is hard to play as well.
hard to play ergo they dont spend time learning ergo they dont know how to play it ergo they say its bad
we saw it in SLs with prot
worthy haven
The key to learning a tank spec well, is to play that spec and nothing else, 4-16 hours a day, everyday, for years on end
ionic fern
hushed lintel
thats a bit dramatic isnt it
worthy haven
You log yourself 3-4 thousand hours on brew, you'll really be cookin
Honestly tho to me, maintaining shield block and not capping rage is 10,000x harder than hitting all of the brew buttons
harsh spruce
Maintaining shield is easy macro it 😉
jagged pier
hushed lintel
how so? shield block is natuarlly maintained, your rage dump button is off the gcd
worthy haven
Some things make sense to some people, some dont
jagged pier
please tell me your not just spending your rage into IP
harsh spruce
When I cast shield slam I also cast shield block 🙂
hushed lintel
if i have a shield slam proc, thunder off cd and 80 rage im spending it into IP
worthy haven
To me hitting one of 5 CDs when needed just makes more sense
hushed lintel
until they are needed and you have none ofthem
worthy haven
And brew has roll, which is the best ability ever
hushed lintel
(as is the case with my bear)
limpid anchor
Pwar is easy and people still ply it wrong
Kinda funny
That some need macros for sb
Yea
worthy haven
But dude, you come on down and hangout with me in the pug life, you will see some shit
remote venture
I started to be more in Battle Stance and use reveange after I got the 2 Set-Bonus. Not that issues with health
worthy haven
Had an ilvl 394 havoc DH today do 20k overall in a nokhud
ionic fern
I started to be more in Battle Stance and use reveange after I got the 2 Set-Bon...
You're always in battle stance..
worthy haven
^ doesn't pug
limpid anchor
How does that make a difference?
worthy haven
^ just lied about pugging
jagged pier
im in BS when i pug
limpid anchor
I pug 20s and im perma bstance
I pug hc raid and perma bstance
Mythic raid as well
remote venture
You're always in battle stance..
Well, I am want from 0% to 95% so that is more
limpid anchor
And considering our performance, its a pug
ionic fern
Well, I am want from 0% to 95% so that is more
What?
remote venture
When I don't feel safe with the incoming dmg
ionic fern
Then you look into your own play.
worthy haven
You guys are probably all telling the truth I don't play prot warrior so idk how realistic that is
ionic fern
And analyse logs.
limpid anchor
You guys are probably all telling the truth I don't play prot warrior so idk how...
DEF stance is a def cd
ionic fern
You guys are probably all telling the truth I don't play prot warrior so idk how...
Only times i go into Dstance is:
On high tyrannical Hyrja,TJS 3rd boss, RLP 2nd boss.
pallid quiver
I'm more likely to forget to change into D Stance than to ever stay in it for an extended period of time
remote venture
Yes, I am using that Def stance as an def cd now
woeful trellis
Hoped there was some "Oh, go cheese this and get 60 in 2 minutes".
I can boost you in cobalt no prob
ionic fern
I need 60 to go into Cobalt tho, no?
limpid anchor
Takes forever as non dh tho
pallid quiver
I only generally go into it in pure pugs when:
DPS decide we're doing a 5 pull instead of a 3 pull, even though they don't know what an interrupt is
Bosses Mwahi mentioned
Healer blew literally all of their mana in 3 seconds somehow and I need to buy them time
limpid anchor
It might be toxic, but if the first pull is already tragic I leave
Dont see any reason to try and carry pugs
pallid quiver
yeah, usually they pull it behind me back because i'm too stupid to realize what's happening, i get aggro, then they leave mid-pull
worthy haven
I was told by a hunter who was doing 11k ST DPS that I can't hold aggro so I'm a shit tank because the first boss of RLP targeted him with chill bomb
pallid quiver
then i get the dm's anyway
ionic fern
It's never the DPS'ers fault.
They have it hard..
They need to focus on doing their rotation and looking at the DPS meters.
worthy haven
I LOVE those Dams
DMs*
Anytime anyone shit talks me, I feel like I just a Xmas present
ionic fern
Almost 0 affixes to deal with outside of Explosive(mostly done by healers regardless) and Spiteful..and yet they complain.
pallid quiver
I just like, don't see the point unless you're being a complete asshat
ionic fern
ionic fern
Requires too much brain power i guess.
And if you ask them to Interrupt as well...
That just errors them out.
pallid quiver
I've had pugs displace mobs into sanguine to heal them because they had their CDs up and want to pad
I really should just leave keys more
ionic fern
If i see DPS'ers doing suboptimal DPS/not interrupting etc.
I just leave.
I'm not there to waste my time.
🤷
pallid quiver
I just assume DPS is there to do suboptimal DPS in pug life
woeful trellis
I need 60 to go into Cobalt tho, no?
Find a mage and take the flight point and ride to it 😋 I did my rogue in 4 hrs from 10-70
pallid quiver
it is way too much effort to find DPS who out-DPS me
ionic fern
Find a mage and take the flight point and ride to it 😋 I did my rogue in 4 hrs ...
Wait..Mage can do portal to Valdrakken?
And i can fly there?
warm plinth
It's never the DPS'ers fault.
They have it hard..
They need to focus on doing th...
Okay but in my defense, looking at the meters increases my DPS by approximately feelsgood%
woeful trellis
Yes 😁
ionic fern
wet crow
is anyone running barbaric training for m+?
jagged pier
no
warm plinth
That explains how they're doing the PLing huh Mwahi lol
Barbaric Training is stinky
Stupid bad talent
ionic fern
That explains how they're doing the PLing huh Mwahi lol
"PL"'ing?
jagged pier
ew
warm plinth
powerleveling
ionic fern
Oo
jagged pier
its literally a 99 dps difference for me which is in the margin of error
worthy haven
I'm gonna be so sad when cobalt powerlecsling is nerfed by blizz
I've got a guy who jce bought 7 from now, because he's just a god, I've got 6 more characters to go but I don't like to blow all my gold at once
warm plinth
how long does it take?
worthy haven
That dude's best for me, was 60-70 in about 80 minutes
warm plinth
Not bad, was it expensive?
worthy haven
He's among the most expensive I've seen he does 350k for all levels, 250-285k seems to be more of the standard now
warm plinth
350k for 60-70?
worthy haven
Then I dinG 70, pay 400k for an m0 world tour and I'm ready start running keys within 3 hours
warm plinth
350k is a lot of gold for me
limpid anchor
As if DF wasn't an expensive expansion already.
It isnt if you boost
worthy haven
I made stupid ass money selling glass the first 3 weeks of the xpac
ionic fern
It isnt if you boost <:okayge:917646812519739433>
😦
worthy haven
I'd log on, afk craft 800,000g worth of draconic vials, pop em all on the AH, come back 2 hours later to a mailbox with 2M gold
woeful trellis
I do it in 50 min 60-70
worthy haven
That was a great few weeks, everyone out there chasing after ilvl 379 loot like a bunch of jackasses, and I'm just rollin in money in town and within a few hours of M+ launching you outgear that stuff anyway
I'm poor now
woeful trellis
Inbound "I'm NA".
😦
woeful trellis
I would do for free if u where eu
woeful trellis
Ah that’s good 😁 I’m home 5pm
worthy haven
I've only got like 700k left, I bought like 15 store mounts, 5 leveling boosts, and 8 months of game time
I feel like such a dumbass though if I had known the market was going to disappear that quickly and that hard, I would have never bought the mounts
That's like 3 million gold for mounts I will literally never touch
woeful trellis
Yeah no prob, make sure u have wm on before u search a mage
sick sentinel
how often should i stay in defensive mod
sick sentinel
oh, got to find a macro to swap btw
blazing condor
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
blazing condor
sick sentinel
trying to push some 16 keys as 380 ilvl prot :p vers pots the way to go right?
atomic laurel
what are soft/ hard caps for DR for prot warriors in specific secondary stats? mainly haste
lofty widget
40% before any buffs
digital frigate
Wait, really?
What you need boost for
mighty valley
including into the fray if you're running that
as in, turn it off before checking if you're at 40% haste
(you're not right now)
ionic fern
What you need boost for
Leveling.
ionic fern
Streamer?
mighty valley
cool, no major diminishing returns
limpid anchor
How do people get so much haste
ionic fern
I always feel left out after joining some YT videos or providing feedback about some content and then they ask "So what do you want to have shoutouts for? Twitch? YT? Twitter?"..and i'm like "....i don't use those".
limpid anchor
Im at 38 with itf
ionic fern
atomic laurel
with itf im at 50%
pallid quiver
I always feel left out after joining some YT videos or providing feedback about ...
Just scratch some drawings on a cave wall somewhere and tell them to shout those out
woeful trellis
I always feel left out after joining some YT videos or providing feedback about ...
Im Long enough in skyhold that I know, that’s the least I can offer you 😁
ionic fern
blazing condor
I always feel left out after joining some YT videos or providing feedback about ...
shoutout skyhold 
especially me
neon fossil
Isnt that a old Nerf?
jagged pier
I always feel left out after joining some YT videos or providing feedback about ...
same KEKW
ionic fern
Isnt that a old Nerf?
Yes.
neon fossil
So, why are they stating it again in the Jan 24th nerfs lol
ionic fern
shoutout skyhold <:peepoHappy:673436349805625364>
"I want to give a big shoutout to Skyhold for making me answer the same questions 20 times a day and argue with random people who do feelycrafting".
ionic fern
So, why are they stating it again in the Jan 24th nerfs lol
Ask them?
lofty widget
cause thats when they go live
blazing condor
"I want to give a big shoutout to Skyhold for making me answer the same question...
simple fix: dont answer
force some poor stormforged to work overtime
ionic fern
Well, it's more at times when no one is on/looking at Discord (believe it or not, SF and Mods also have a life) that things get messy.
Then we get the good old "Vers is good" vs "Haste is good" arguments going on.
While neither of them provide any solid information..with the Vers guy going "IT REDUCES DAMAGE" and the haste guy going "I DON'T KNOW WHY HASTE IS GOOD BUT THE MODS/SF SAID SO!!"
And i'm just silently watching and..
leaden grail
quick question: if a spell is said to be blockable but magic-type, does that mean I can block it with spell block active only?
ionic fern
quick question: if a spell is said to be blockable but magic-type, does that mea...
Yes.
blazing condor
yes
leaden grail
thank you
blazing condor
np very buff perry the platypus
leaden grail
perry is life
sweet summit
SF and Mods no not have a life stop lying to them
blazing condor
the only people who want to be internet janitors are people with no life
sweet summit
ionic fern
the only people who want to be internet janitors are people with no life
Agreed.
jagged pier
"I want to give a big shoutout to Skyhold for making me answer the same question...
or or, they complain cause your io isnt as high as the top ppl
so theres no point in u giving advice
blazing condor
ask question to reassure my already existing beliefs
answer goes against my belief
this cant be right, they must be wrong
and thats why humans suck
thank you confirmation bias
hazy thicket
Especially on contradictory information
blazing condor
honestly you 100% can cus vers or no vers is not gonna matter
for the people asking
cus they do 20s at most
blazing condor
yes
blazing condor
thanks mwahi
will gem and enchant everything now
recrafting all my gear
new missives
ionic fern
You're welcome.
hazy thicket
Quick screen shot that to be used out of context forever
I'm going to be really sad when the day arrives that I'm looking at my depleted keys and thinking 'maybe vers is the answer'
blazing condor
just do it today
hazy thicket
No I'm having too much fun with 40% crit
Honestly it's current ly favourite thing to be on a dungeon and have the 'holy shit I think I just parried X mechanic' moments
blazing condor
serotonin
hazy thicket
Because ofc I've not put any time into finding out what can be parried
ionic fern
Same.
Crawth be like:
Evoker dispell
SW
Dwarf dispell
Parry
Evoker dispell
Parry
SW
sweet summit
parry 
jagged pier
limpid anchor
At what keylevel does the bird do dmg?
median tulip
All my gems are Mastery
blazing condor
none if you have 200% vers
edgy spear
I did a 20 last night and that motherfucker did 60k dps to me on average for the whole fight. 70% of it the peck
limpid anchor
Im Full crit and at least on 20s its chill
median tulip
The only reason I gem Mastery is that the rest of my gear has so little on it and Mastery sims out for maximum DPS
limpid anchor
Mastery is gonna be bis anyway after the nerfs
Vers? Nah. Haste? Nah. Crit? Get out
median tulip
Please tell me you are memeing
ionic fern
At what keylevel does the bird do dmg?
Idk, 22 was pretty chill.
edgy spear
Can you really parry the peck? I dont think i've seen/noticed that
limpid anchor
No
pallid quiver
Can you really parry the peck? I dont think i've seen/noticed that
You used to be able to
they fixed that, so now it can be a problem
limpid anchor
Just saying that it does no dmg
ionic fern
i have a 22 in my bags
Get past mana boss and you're gucci.
Unless you mong last boss.
blazing condor
surely you cant do that
limpid anchor
The mana boss is thr most difficult
blazing condor
limpid anchor
Get past mana boss and you're gucci.
Whats your route?
blazing condor
do you even need lust on tree anymore
limpid anchor
do you even need lust on tree anymore
No
ionic fern
surely you cant do that
blazing condor
if you go mana first then tree then you have lust on crawth
blazing condor
tldr: you did not pass the semester
cedar trench
every AA i've done this week has had people placing puddles EVERYWHERE
limpid anchor
if you go mana first then tree then you have lust on crawth
But Thant you dont have it for last
blazing condor
i haven't done keys for like one and a half weeks so idk whats worth or not
limpid anchor
That’s why we went tree - mana - back over tree to bird, rest of trash
pallid quiver
Every time I go into AA, I hope everyone else dies because it makes the fight easier.
dry spear
i got the mythic eranog shield and a good 421 weapon. should i still open as prot to get a 421 shield or open as arms for trinkets? got DoF 415 and WII 421. maybe the windscar trinket would be a good dps boost?
edgy spear
every AA i've done this week has had people placing puddles EVERYWHERE
You try to play it well and move boss all the way to a wall in the hopes that your mong pug brains will figure out that you play the fight in one end of the room and then move to the other when it fills up
ionic fern
Whats your route?
Shroud to mana boss->2 packs on boss platform->1 pack on boss platform->Mana boss->Whole mana boss worm area->Shroud over next bridge->Whole area there->Elemental boy->Bird boy->Tree area->TreeBoy->Big pulls on last boss area.
edgy spear
but the hunter like being on his african safari so shit is all over
ionic fern
We lust mana boss , Crawth and last boss.
ionic fern
On a 22 it lined up with lusts like that.
cedar trench
Ya thats our pathing too pretty much
ionic fern
We did figure out that you can LoS the mana bombs on mana boss..
So that's something.
edgy spear
I assume you LoS mana bombs when he is about to cast them?
ionic fern
It's 3 people who get it..so 1 ranged DPS LoS'es it..and the healer knows who he needs to pre-hot/heal for it.
Makes their life easier.
blazing condor
cant you hold boss near the edge for that
cedar trench
blazing condor
and have everyone do it
ionic fern
Pretty sure someone still gets it?
ionic fern
At least our Rogue did.
cedar trench
i can try and find the clip of them doing it on 24
edgy spear
cant you hold boss near the edge for that
I think the arcane bombs spawns will fuck you then
If he's on a wall its gonna spawn a bomb or two on top of him pretty much
ionic fern
I think the arcane bombs spawns will fuck you then
Jep.
Also..apparently the stairs make the swirlies invisible.
😦
Learned that the hard way in the 23.
median tulip
every AA i've done this week has had people placing puddles EVERYWHERE
I think the problem has been that the third boss was such a pushover in comparison to the others that people aren't as good at the mechanics, and now they're pushing into high keys and haven't learned that fight very well yet
cedar trench
stairs after tree also makes the spinnys not hit you if you're below them
ionic fern
I think the problem has been that the third boss was such a pushover in comparis...
There's a shit overlap with Fissure into Mana bombs..which (luckily) can be solved by letting the boss eat a orb.
edgy spear
mana bombs only seem like a big issue on the Mana bombs-Fissure overlap
ionic fern
But that was pretty much a guaranteed one shot on at least one DPS.
woeful trellis
So los the new way? Not letting one Ball to Boss first wave to have better timings
cedar trench
honestly, i wouldn't be doing this unless your someone will get oneshot and you're in a coordinated group
edgy spear
Does letting a ball through on the first wave cause a nasty overlap later in the fight? Right now it's about 1:40ish for the overlap without letting one through
limpid anchor
Why would you let a ball through?
cloud tide
need weak aura for prot
ionic fern
need weak aura for prot
Wago->Protection
cloud tide
wha
ionic fern
Why would you let a ball through?
It gives him Energy causing it to de-sync the Fissure+Mana Bomb combo.
limpid anchor
So is that actually the play?
woeful trellis
^ someone in pug told me and it worked well
ionic fern
So is that actually the play?
Yes.
limpid anchor
Okay nice
edgy spear
Well either that, very good defensive usage or LoSing mana bombs
limpid anchor
ionic fern
You let 1 orb go through after the 2nd fissure.
ionic fern
Well either that, very good defensive usage or LoSing mana bombs
Defensives run out eventually. 😦
sick sentinel
on azura vault, as alch what can i do?
marble cipher
nothing?
afaik there's only some sort of inscription shenanigans there, but, not even sure about that
blazing condor
isnt there an evoker thing there?
or maybe thats the inscription thing youre talking about
you can press the tome to rig the traps
cedar trench
inscriptino and evoker can click on something
marble cipher
don't know, might as well be evoker, it's soemthing with a book yeah
cedar trench
but it doesn't do much
blazing condor
yeah i know there's a tome to the right of the two mana dudes before first ring
you can pull big after 2nd boss and use traps to deal damage
but its not that impactful
marble cipher
cue MDI where they'll abuse it in ways nobody ever thought off 🤣
glad sorrel
Does letting a ball through on the first wave cause a nasty overlap later in the...
After the 2nd fissure u need to let 1 orb through so 3rd fissure isnt synced with manabombs. Assuming u got all orbs before
thorny stone
Does letting a ball through on the first wave cause a nasty overlap later in the...
Just tell the party to los everything
uneven ice
Hi! I just used the raidbot droptimizer, and i tells me to look for the puzzle box trinket.
Edited: i'm stupid, the ball thing is on another trinket
amber siren
Puzzle box isn't the soccer ball, it's the on-use mastery with a 2 second cast time
jagged pier
thats not the ball trinket
uneven ice
The puzzle box one is good, then?
amber siren
Is it telling you replace Whetstone or is it telling you to replace your other trinket?
amber siren
Oh right I see
jagged pier
what lvl of item are u simming from dungeons?
uneven ice
M+ 11
harsh cedar
Which dungeons do you all take Spell block in?
uneven ice
The ones i can do without stressing to much (i'm to old for this shit xd)
jagged pier
well sims are personal to char
in general whetstone is better
but your char must be very low on mastery or somthing
uneven ice
Actually i think i have too much mastery
jagged pier
that adding 3k mastery to u would be a big dps increase iguess
amber siren
If you had a lot it wouldn't be overvalued so much
jagged pier
cool i have 33% and puzzle is a down grade as i said its personal to the char
amber siren
Ive got 31% mastery with 7 slots with some form on it
jagged pier
theres isnt a rule of thumb of what is best
amber siren
so 26% definitely isn't high
uneven ice
Ok
amber siren
Plus no cast time
rough solar
Will Sennarth hit dps if tanks get out of melee range during Ascend phase?
jagged pier
Will Sennarth hit dps if tanks get out of melee range during Ascend phase?
we web blasts the second highest on threat
from what i know
but not being in rnage of the boss should never be an issue
its easy to stay in range
rough solar
We just started progress yesterday on Mythic and it's messy. After the warlock portal I sometimes have to dodge tornado and step away from the boss and could end up out of melee range for a few seconds. Haven't noticed him hitting anyone else yet, but can't be sure of it.
edgy spear
First ramp you can place the gate at the bottom of the ramp, but on the subsequent ramps it's better to place the gateway halfway up, so it takes you to the top
jagged pier
u can literally just walk with the boss and the last 2
its even better if your the one tanking the boss
u get ahead of the spreads that u need to do
steel mauve
Senn has such a huge hit box its almost impossible to be out of range of her
orchid laurel
looking to start tanking is prot war still safe choice with the inc nerfs
mortal brook
the incoming nerfs are less than half a key's worth of consideration
orchid laurel
im sorry im not sure what you mean
steel mauve
You wont notice them
jagged pier
guys we are supposed to be dooming
orchid laurel
ahh thanks, what is the likely hood of them being further nerfed
jagged pier
your getting it wrong
whole vortex
steel mauve
And if you are top 50 world, chances are you can play any tank as viable any ways
tulip berry
which one should i go ? first one is 147 vers and 227 mastery, second one is crit haste with 37 vers per player in group
strong forum
Ilvl
jagged pier
ilvl
tulip berry
kk thanks ❤️
strong forum
If I were you I'd try to upgrade the crafted bracers
Since you committed the spark to them already
jolly path
the guides say to aim for 100% uptime on shield block, but I always run into a spot after some time where I just can't. Any tips?
lofty widget
what are your talents? 100 % uptime is pretty easy atm
lime urchin
play battering ram instead of BSV
jolly path
does that change at a certain point? subcreation has around 73% of prot taking itf.
lime urchin
dont look at subcreation for builds amigo
lofty widget
also take punish and battering ram over BSV and thunderlord
you always take HR in m+, otherwise you have to play itf+bolster but thats worse than just putting 1 point in HR
and for most cases impenetrable wall is better than defenders aegis
jolly path
Hmm okay, so those running ITF are using Bolster to play around it?
strong forum
Ye
marsh axle
also take punish and battering ram over BSV and thunderlord
hello! question, why punish over thunderlord? is it just to have an easier play style? or is there some significant advantage? both seem to provide pretty good benefits
strong forum
Cuz punish is always 9-12% DR on your prio target and 3% St dmg increase
TL is 20-40% CDR on demoshout
light vale
Why wouldn't you just take both and drop bsv for keys?
lofty widget
cause battering ram is better than TL
jagged pier
because battering ram is a thing
strong forum
Cuz battering ram is more dmg than TL
echo scarab
but more demo shouts synergies with booming voice though?
marsh axle
Cuz punish is always 9-12% DR on your prio target and 3% St dmg increase
TL is ...
thanks!
echo scarab
Noted
jolly path
I'm quiet but reading through this and making/trying changes. I appreciate the help.
brittle owl
hi quiet
tender quartz
Ah yay finally got my last 20 out of the way with Ruby. Cleanest run I've had, like, in the past 6 years 😊 Thanks for all the tips and input especially @jagged pier
strange chasm
i dont get it im watching streams i use wowanalyzer for rotation all those people got so eazy life ss rev tc and again
sometimes 2 x rev in time
but for me it dont work
after liek 2/3 cycle i lock myself into cd
no rage
amber siren
you're running barbaric training im guessing?
strange chasm
no i dont
jagged pier
i dont get it im watching streams i use wowanalyzer for rotation all those peopl...
logs
strange chasm
i only have 2 p
i dont have any new logs
i was working on imp ss count
now on avg n+
i got liek 320-340
casts
amber siren
🤷 that was my best guess
young mango
Maybe there is Not enough shit Hitting you?
jagged pier
has nothing to do with anything
we cant tell u without logs
🤷
sned your old logs
your still probably making the same mistakes
jagged pier
well theres your issue
u are pressing your main rage generator
and your wasting all your rage in IP
strange chasm
i think it is old one
jagged pier
this is from today
strange chasm
so in short to much ip
jagged pier
not enough revenge
not enough SS
too much IP
u also waste around 5% of your rage
limpid anchor
Unbind IP 
strange chasm
thx for your tiem and info will work on that
late garden
Is revenge more damage than whirlwind
jagged pier
yes
limpid anchor
Whirlwind is 360
jagged pier
and a SS proc chance
late garden
In AOE? I'm asking for a friend so just want to make sure.
jagged pier
yes in aoe
high drum
remove ww from bars
lofty widget
you never press whirlwind
late garden
Thanks guys
limpid anchor
remove ww from bars
But when you run away from mighty foe, how will you hit them
limpid anchor
Tactical retreat
limpid anchor
Sometimes you gotta take your little legs in the hand
Run
And spam ww
That’s just how it works
eager phoenix
Weird
limpid anchor
That seems fishy
high drum
if i cant bring my motorized cart then im not tanking simple as
remote venture
My friend shared logs when they had an prot warriro that spam Slam and WW 💀
high drum
he pays his 12.99 a month
late garden
Does protection warrior want auto attack ring
lofty widget
sure, it's free dmg
limpid anchor
And bis stats
jovial steeple
Would you guys go with double haste/crit Ring? (Azure vault and autoattack ring) you aim for an specific amount of vers?
sterile bough
Ilvl>haste>other stata
lofty widget
sim it. no specific amount of stats will make you survive
jovial steeple
Okok. Just asking because i currently drop so much vers for crit
lofty widget
doesnt matter
sterile bough
Both are equally good stats
jovial steeple
Ty 🙂
dire matrix
dense temple
Sim for damage if ur dying it’s not a stat issue
chilly escarp
is the gorund udner the elemental boss in nokhud deadly?
sick sentinel
i know a semi famous smak on area 52
urban bane
you probably dont want to stand in it.
chilly escarp
just checkign thats where the dot i got came from assuming it is
vivid cedar
you guys think prot will still be the most represented tank at high level after nerf?
pseudo garden
I mean it's still going to be a great tank
Maybe dk sees more play at high high end?
uneven mason
you guys think prot will still be the most represented tank at high level after ...
It's still fun and has the best kit, of course these 2 things are always true, we might lose some fotm rerillers because it's slightly harder to get away with the "zero buttons" style that the sharters tend to fall in
uneven mason
just checkign thats where the dot i got came from assuming it is
What's the dot called?
Does he have a dot?
I know the damage buff...
lusty tiger
Should never be near the center because you should be baiting windblast every time you have spell reflect up
lofty widget
lusty tiger
2nd boss NO is insane- also last is pretty good too
vivid cedar
It's still fun and has the best kit, of course these 2 things are always true, w...
I just hit 70, dipping my toes into tanking and I'm finding prot war challenging but quite fun. is it normal for tanks to keep up a buffs like SW+IP or is prot warrior harder in that way?
lusty tiger
No
uneven mason
Ok Yea not a dot but ticking aura
eager phoenix
you guys think prot will still be the most represented tank at high level after ...
maybe it evens out a bit but gearing takes time even with catalyst and "infinite sparks" so will the top guys toss out their decked out chars and in some cases need to chisel out new strats?
uneven mason
2nd boss NO is insane- also last is pretty good too
2nd boss is pretty easy as long as you're handling orbs properly
uneven mason
Ohhh Yes
young mango
2nd Boss in no is a heal Boss there is nothing deadly for us
uneven mason
I just hit 70, dipping my toes into tanking and I'm finding prot war challenging...
Sw is shield wall, and is our major cooldown, but you should have it available about every pull (1 min cd approximately)
vivid cedar
SB my bad
uneven mason
That's what I thought
lusty tiger
Yes to sb,
No with a catch for ip
uneven mason
Yes as prot you need to make sure you have sb up anytime you're getting meleed, and face the pack
vivid cedar
ive tried a bit of guardian druid before and that seemed a lot more like just spammign ironfur which didnt seem quite as involved unless i was just doing that wrong
uneven mason
IP we use to avoid capping rage
uneven mason
ive tried a bit of guardian druid before and that seemed a lot more like just sp...
No, that pretty close
craggy pilot
what do we think of quazii for tips? 🤔 he seems god awful at playing Warrior
uneven mason
The note on IP is that we can stack it up for larger bursts of damage
lusty tiger
I only listen to ikarikaze for all my warrior tips
sick sentinel
i listen to orange names and (not including you) ignore all the brown red names that go "RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE"
craggy pilot
he seems to have a lot of dungeon knowledge, making video tip guides on M+ dungeons
but man when i see his warrior DPS i just cringe
he is doing 20k boss DPS in a +22 🤔
lofty widget
probably fine as long as its not warrior specific tips
craggy pilot
some of the tips seem giga tryharding though
lofty widget
perma d-stance in a 22, letting block drop, not using cds etc 😄
craggy pilot
like a bunch of bosses going out of your way to try and line of sight a small mechanic
uneven mason
he seems to have a lot of dungeon knowledge, making video tip guides on M+ dunge...
I mean dungeon knowledge is absolutely a huge chunk of being a good tank
sick sentinel
last key i ran says 29.5k dps here 396ilvl
craggy pilot
this guy is 410 yogi, and hes doing less dps 🙂
sick sentinel
then again, only running 11-13's for infusions
craggy pilot
413 even 😄
sick sentinel
i had some guy whisper me on one of the halls of valor baby keys we failed timer after, i think a dps warrior whispers: "wow you do so much dmg!!!"
uneven mason
I'm in the boat of "mechanically very good at warrior stuff" - Can't get the playtime to push keys since my team didn't return for dragonflight
sick sentinel
prot bad asss !!! after i solo'd odyn from like 5% hp
craggy pilot
I'm in the boat of "mechanically very good at warrior stuff" - Can't get the pla...
feel the same way
pseudo garden
Damn that must have been a long boss fight like 20min for odyn to get to 5% :p
sick sentinel
but i am completely non scared of halls of valor now, maybe on a 15+, but i love that key so much
craggy pilot
but cba pushing other dungeons currently
uneven mason
I'm not even double digits on my war
charred hemlock
Can someone explain to me why the talent Spell block is good in m+ ? Is it to mitigate some boss mechanic only ? Majority of spells are cut in m+( doing 19-21 atm )
sick sentinel
im told that cos is OMEGALUL easy, but i haven't tested it
dusky canopy
Just curious what do you guys average for IP CPM just looking to compare and judge if I send it to much or not
Feels like I could be revenging more sometimes
lofty widget
Can someone explain to me why the talent Spell block is good in m+ ? Is it to mi...
it isnt "good in m+", it just has a few use-cases, notably 3rd boss TJS and 1st boss RLP
uneven mason
Warm wait I think I did some 12s, but can't even pug ATM because one of my coworker left and I have 15 extra accounts to manage now (zero keys this week)
sick sentinel
i only did cos one time 2 weeks ago on a 11 with 3 other players (dk and ret i some time mention, healer)
charred hemlock
it isnt "good in m+", it just has a few use-cases, notably 3rd boss TJS and 1st ...
Thx a lot 🙂
sick sentinel
with voice
uneven mason
Can someone explain to me why the talent Spell block is good in m+ ? Is it to mi...
The trash pack just before sha as well
sick sentinel
so, i TANKED it i saw it, but i don't really understand that key properly stil....
uneven mason
Because dark claw slaps
craggy pilot
Can someone explain to me why the talent Spell block is good in m+ ? Is it to mi...
some spells are not reflectable, but blockable, where you need Spell Block to be able to block them
unlike Prot Pala who just Spell Block baseline
its only good for very specific spots
uneven mason
unlike Prot Pala who just Spell Block baseline
Yeah but then you'd have to be a windchime
sick sentinel
where spell block is good, it is very good
dusky canopy
Because dark claw slaps
Holy shit! You can spell block dark claws?
craggy pilot
Yeah but then you'd have to be a windchime
windchime?
prot pala? 😄
jeez watching Quazii tank is sad
his SS is up so much
and he doesnt press it
oak quarry
Boys and girls are we talking about high serpent jade keys with the third best boss ever ?
lofty widget
goes to show why its such a popular tank
oak quarry
cause I do need some tips
dusky canopy
True but tbf the man’s doing low 20 keys
craggy pilot
goes to show why its such a popular tank
you can survive +22 without pressing the most important button 🤣
uneven mason
cause I do need some tips
Don't get kicked in the face
sick sentinel
i run HR spellblock in all my keys
uneven mason
you can survive +22 without pressing the most important button 🤣
This sadly
dusky canopy
I feel like I have near 100% uptime on my IP if something hitting* me
craggy pilot
I feel like I have near 100% uptime on my IP if something hitting* me
you dont have to strive for that
uneven mason
Legitimately I cry angry tears when I see no ip, capped rage and sw get used once the whole dungeon
craggy pilot
uptime on IP doesnt matter too much
dusky canopy
I don’t strive for it but you have so much rage it’s easy to do
uneven mason
I feel like I have near 100% uptime on my IP if something hitting* me
IP just happens from our rage spend
dusky canopy
Exspecially when avatar and ravager are out
lofty widget
well tier means you pmuch always have IP up
so uptime becomes less relevant
a less relevant metric*
not that it was relevant before
dusky canopy
Right it happens passively pretty much trying not to cap rage lol
uneven mason
Yeah the concept of offensive spend even when IP is capped is lost on people
uneven mason
Always pump IP
craggy pilot
i guess if you have DPS doing 80k overall, then you will be fine in any key 🤣
uneven mason
If you have 65 rage, press it
dusky canopy
Even when capped pump ip
lofty widget
80k kinda low for dps
uneven mason
i guess if you have DPS doing 80k overall, then you will be fine in any key 🤣
This is why the top runners rely less on their tanks
craggy pilot
is it possible to see healing taken in logs?
uneven mason
80k kinda low for dps
Overall considering st dips
dusky canopy
Biz and Critcake doing 100k overalls right?
uneven mason
is it possible to see healing taken in logs?
Yes
lofty widget
ehrps
uneven mason
ehrps
This
I love this stat because it got me my mythic prog spot as protection back in BFA
uneven mason
Literally against the bdk and prot paladin in our heroic runs my warrior needed 12% less ehrps
craggy pilot
and less dmg in AA 🤔
uneven mason
C'mon now not everyone can be Nom or Sense
craggy pilot
nah but why even play Warrior then 🤔
uneven mason
Because you can survive keys by binding sb to w
pine vapor
pretty sure hes better than most of us 🙂
crimson quarry
Devil's advocate, he also has a stream to talk too simultaneously
uneven mason
Pretty sure his team has very strong backs
lofty widget
having a good team and knowing what to kick etc is infinitely more valuable than being slightly better at your class
uneven mason
2 different things tbh
This is certainly important
pine vapor
I dont know when this mentality came that tanks need to do high DPS, anywhere other than pushing the highest of keys
craggy pilot
if he is good at keys, must mean he is good at warrior 🤷♂️
craggy pilot
I dont know when this mentality came that tanks need to do high DPS, anywhere ot...
never said that
pine vapor
if the man is teaching you how to run +20 keys, judge him on how well you know it after his videos
lofty widget
cause what else would you do? just sit on your hands?
uneven mason
having a good team and knowing what to kick etc is infinitely more valuable than...
Right you'll find that top pushers are individually not the best at their specs, but they have far better execution of mechanics
pine vapor
if hes teaching you how to do highest of DPS and push keys, judge him on that
craggy pilot
but saying if youre good at warrior, you will do higher dps than 30k
pine vapor
@craggy pilot its so gear dependent though too
craggy pilot
<@270309256471773194> its so gear dependent though too
wdym?
he should have better gear than 413?
pine vapor
ilvl above all, but you might end up with 35% haste and no crit
and that has a huge dps impact
craggy pilot
we have yogi doing higher dps in 386 bro whats your point
craggy pilot
ilvl above all, but you might end up with 35% haste and no crit
🤔
this is a weird take tbh
pine vapor
because your dmg is only ilvl dependent? lol
uneven mason
<@270309256471773194> its so gear dependent though too
I did 42k overall in a rlp....with far worse gear
pine vapor
your secondary stats dictate a lot of your dmg
lofty widget
pretty much yeah
craggy pilot
your secondary stats dictate a lot of your dmg
a little yes, but not a lot
uneven mason
So, I'm pretty sure that's not the issue
lofty widget
all our secondaries are very close to each other in terms of dps and surv
pine vapor
ok, look at logs of a 10% crit tank and 20% crit tank
lofty widget
except haste which is slightly ahead
crimson quarry
What about Lepan, he's a baller prot to learn from ?
pine vapor
youll see dps
craggy pilot
ok, look at logs of a 10% crit tank and 20% crit tank
you can do that bro
pine vapor
I have
pine vapor
which is why im saying it makes a diff 🙂
uneven mason
which is why im saying it makes a diff 🙂
Not that big a difference
Like if they don't have that 10% crit they have that stat somewhere
pine vapor
yeah in something like the haste cap
craggy pilot
haste cap?
uneven mason
Cap...
craggy pilot
come again 
pine vapor
Like its simple math. 100 shield slams with 20% crit vs 8% crit
lofty widget
lol
warm plinth
ok, look at logs of a 10% crit tank and 20% crit tank
What? You realize that those would be two different people?
pine vapor
diminishing returns?
uneven mason
lusty tiger
Tank should be doing 50k at least in aoe dungeons… 50k active
pine vapor
starts at 30%
craggy pilot
What? You realize that those would be two different people?
bro its the gear, not the person 😄
warm plinth
What are these takes bro
If I have 8% crit instead of 20% crit, then that means I have a.) more haste, meaning more rage, faster GCD, b.) More mastery, which means more attack power, or c.) more vers, which is more damage.
uneven mason
What are these takes bro
~resilience~ versatility will fix it
pine vapor
If I have 8% crit instead of 20% crit, then that means I have a.) more haste, me...
all stats have diminishing returns
lusty tiger
Crit immune ftw
warm plinth
No shit
What's your point
Do you know how small the diminishing returns are? You'd need 40% of a stat (from rating) to even care about the diminshing returns
pine vapor
that having more in other stats brings less than balancing out your lower stats in terms of dps
lusty tiger
all stats have diminishing returns
Only non prot mains say this
pine vapor
no for haste its 30%
lusty tiger
Zzz
pine vapor
lol
warm plinth
Bro
craggy pilot
🍿
warm plinth
Diminishing returns kick in at 30% rating of a stat
craggy pilot
what did i start 😄
warm plinth
For the first "tier"
uneven mason
Not 40% DPS difference for comparable ilvl
warm plinth
Do you know what that means?
lusty tiger
🤔
pine vapor
do you lol?
craggy pilot
do you lol?
not answering the question 😄
warm plinth
That means that at 30% haste from rating, that means that I get .9% haste from 170 rating insteead of 1% haste. HOLY SHIT
oblique kayak
warm plinth
THE DIFFERENCE
uneven mason
warm plinth
HOW IMPACTFUL
lusty tiger
Ok guys I hit 30% haste time to mastery stack because I only have 10%
warm plinth
It means it takes 17 more rating, SEVENTEEN. To get 1% than it did before 30%
uneven mason
Ok guys I hit 30% haste time to mastery stack because I only have 10%
Get that boss dps
lusty tiger
craggy pilot
ok different question, which packs do you guys pull in the 3rd section of Nokhud? i see a lot of tanks pull the low count Desecrated Boars 🤔
uneven mason
Ok folks funtimes over, let's get back to making fun of paladins
craggy pilot
is it just me or is that pack giga not worth?
deep spruce
It's like 2%. Giga not worth indeed
lusty tiger
Me kick for hole party and heal/brez pug healer who ami?
deep spruce
But it's also easy af
uneven mason
ok different question, which packs do you guys pull in the 3rd section of Nokhud...
Yeah skip
warm plinth
Now, don't get me wrong here, stats absolutely have an impact on damage, or why would we sim at all? But no one out there could get a 90 parse instead of a 50 parse because of their stats.
deep spruce
So pull it with something else
craggy pilot
or do the boars just die insta 🤔
lofty widget
pull it with something else
uneven mason
You need 94% Todo the backdoor?
lofty widget
yea
craggy pilot
So pull it with something else
i pull like this, which already gets me 100% count 🤔
i could pull it, and skip the 2 casters in pull #18 🤔
uneven mason
Pulling too much somewhere else
craggy pilot
craggy pilot
Pulling too much somewhere else
i pull pretty much only what i have to in first+2nd area
inland raft
Can pull those two casters with pull 14 anyways
uneven mason
Yeah, I honestly hate that trash
craggy pilot
Can pull those two casters with pull 14 anyways
usually pull them with pull 18, cus it has no casters in the left pack
craggy pilot
Yeah, I honestly hate that trash
which?
uneven mason
Green balls in my face
craggy pilot
never really fully understood what most of the stuff does in 3rd area nokhud
but doesnt seem to hurt that much on +18
like the wake undead or whatever the fk
lofty widget
most important things are kick casters and move mobs out of the big green swirley
urban bane
i've never looked at an upcoming week's affixes and thought "huh seems rough" until this week. >.>
wooden widget
Guys how do I desync hyrja? First 20 my groups gotten
lusty tiger
Stunning mortal strikes can be nice too
inland raft
If you leave undead mobs in it it can get spicy
craggy pilot
most important things are kick casters and move mobs out of the big green swirle...
what does the swirley do?
its Chant the Undead u mean right?
lofty widget
gives the mobs 20 % DR
craggy pilot
ohh
urban bane
Guys how do I desync hyrja? First 20 my groups gotten
here's the copypasta i found, but i havent tested this extensively yet
wooden widget
Awesome ty!
urban bane
going to test this in some m0 just to get used to it.
warm plinth
Guys how do I desync hyrja? First 20 my groups gotten
Pull to sanctify side (far enough that only the beam from that side is on her). Wait until just before expel light would show up (~5-6 seconds) on someone, then leap across and go far enough that she will move to the new beam without stopping. If you did it right, she'll do Sanctify on that side. If you didn't, then it's easier to just play it normal than try again.
wooden widget
Ty ty
warm plinth
It's easier to do by pulling her to one side than doing it from the middle imo
The timing is easier to get down
urban bane
Good to know, I'll make note of that
warm plinth
You can do it from either side first also. If you want to start on storm side first to end up with a sanctify if you fail, that's fine too.
urban bane
and then you just swap sides as usual from there on, yer?
warm plinth
Yeah at that point you just let the shield yeet you like usual
craggy pilot
oof, just checked Quazii uptime of 2set, and its like 40% 😄
jagged pier
👀
warm plinth
that's certainly a number
sand mason
I’m 2700 and struggle to get above 60% uptime. Trying to get to that 85% but damn I suck lol
torn gulch
i am trash and i have it at like 60-ish
craggy pilot
they are cancelling the Iron Spear every time on last boss Nokhud, is that just Alliance Shadowmeld and Rogue Vanish? 🤔
lofty widget
or feign, yeah
warm plinth
Yessir
lofty widget
meld OP
warm plinth
Takes RNG though. I've held vanish an entire fight before and not get picked
Feels real bad
torn gulch
did anyone tried a 405 or a 418 darkmoon watcher? the description sounds interesting
craggy pilot
Takes RNG though. I've held vanish an entire fight before and not get picked
lol
they did 22 nokhud, and went overtime by 27 seconds
with 1 death 🤔
holy shit
torn gulch
tbh damage looks so so
i am looking now at a 25 NO where the dps is a as follows: 126,126,114,72,23
timed with like 3 min left it seems
hidden ether
How big are they pulling for that kinda damage
craggy pilot
probably big
torn gulch
pretty big
craggy pilot
its Tyrannical
wide charm
i have this in nokhud 22 with 1 death for half of first boss and 1 dead for 30% of 3rd boss
strong forum
kinda sadge dmg
craggy pilot
is he just not pressing buttons
yes
thats what we talked about like 5min ago 😄
but yes
craggy pilot
hes not doing SS and Revenge
craggy pilot
i have this in nokhud 22 with 1 death for half of first boss and 1 dead for 30% ...
timed?
torn gulch
70k dps for the tank in 25 NO
urban bane
from what ive seen i think he also hardlocks dstance
torn gulch
not bad
strong forum
i did 78k in 21NO 
craggy pilot
by a minute or so
nice
strong forum
was last week tho
wide charm
even 56k is kinda sad tbh
not saying i would have omegapumped but doing 2 bosses with 4 people hurts overall
jagged pier
yer but u also could double pull pack normal groups dont
jagged pier
uneven mason
Triple lightning totem packs
torn gulch
wtf