Unrelated to warrior but when do you guys estimate valor cap removal?
#protection
pseudo garden
radiant robin
is it just me or was pugging never worse than now?
split stratus
Did they change the Omen of Death ability on Ner'zhul ? We used to bait it far from the group with a single caster being far from the group. But during our last run, we had multiple casts in melee instead of range.
daring marlin
is it just me or was pugging never worse than now?
Many kicks required. People suck at kicking. It's pretty shit.
slim dove
toss in explosive and dps expecting it to be solely healer/tanks job to hit them ever and yeah, pugs are gonna be ruff
rough solar
Did they change the Omen of Death ability on Ner'zhul ? We used to bait it far f...
If you have more then one ranged they all need to be out baiting
split stratus
If you have more then one ranged they all need to be out baiting
Oh so it's not about distance, it's about class ? Thanks !
tender cove
Oh so it's not about distance, it's about class ? Thanks !
if you have 3 melee? Its always going on healer. If you have 2 melee, it always goes on the only ranged. If you have 2 or more ranged? its random.
split stratus
if you have 3 melee? Its always going on healer. If you have 2 melee, it always ...
That's really good to know, thanks !
livid snow
Is there any point in going battle stance? This is kind of unclear to me, 10% damage vs 3% crit seems like it wouldn't be good no?
tender cove
Is there any point in going battle stance? This is kind of unclear to me, 10% da...
View it as a defensive cooldown. its 15% damage
vocal nimbus
you gotta be in battle stance 99% of the time
pseudo garden
For me D stance is for bird boss and Boulder lady....maybe ice whelp lady too
topaz drift
Is there some kind of ilvl to key level comparison anywhere? i recently leveled and revisiting lower keys with a bit more gear (380 rather than 340) and its a totally diferent experience. Reaching 14s in 380 i feel things starting to hit hard again - i realize its possible and i should improve , just wondering where the ilvl key ranges sit in terms of mitigation vs scaling (rather than skill level, CC, group play etc)
livid snow
Then I've been tanking very wrong, then again only just started playing prot.
tender cove
Its 15% damage reduction. If you feel you need it perma? You sit it in perma. If not? Its just like any other cooldown such a shield wall. About to take a big tank buster? You press it and then go back.
livid snow
Yes but defensive stance gives 10% damage increase while battle stance gives a 3% crit chance increase. This is what I was confused about.
At least that's what my tooltip says
tender cove
Is there some kind of ilvl to key level comparison anywhere? i recently leveled...
Pretty hard to say on an personal basis. It will come down to your skill rather than gear. Just look at naowh tanking 20s naked.
sour scroll
Yes but defensive stance gives 10% damage increase while battle stance gives a ...
Its a 10% DEcrease.
vale summit
Def stance reduces the damage you do
tender cove
Yes but defensive stance gives 10% damage increase while battle stance gives a ...
Its 15% damage reduction from defensive stance, while also doing 10% less damage. with the 3% crit, it equates to about 14% more damage.
livid snow
wait I need to go back to school to learn English again
reading is hard lmao
thanks for pointing out I'm stupid hahaha
also thanks for help, problem with me being stoopid solved
tender cove
It happens to everyone 😛
low acorn
I’m not ESL and I can barely read English lol
livid snow
Well it's not my native language
ocean prairie
what's our best phial for m+?
livid snow
But stances don't have any effect on rage generation?
mighty valley
Nope
mighty valley
like 10%+ good
livid snow
yeah also nice to not nerf whetstone by 10%
tender cove
wait, whetstone got nerfed?
mighty valley
although personal buffs rarely affect trinkets
sick sentinel
Does prot warrior have any talents/passives that will proc execute?
mighty valley
sudden death
also you can search "execute" in talents to find everything that interacts with it
same for other ability interactions
sick sentinel
thank you! ❤️
slow epoch
do you recommend me eye in the storm phials or versa ones for m+ ?
spice orbit
Eye
dense ledge
worth picking disrupting shout in rlp to try and group stuff quicker when trying to avoid pulling an extra drake?
pseudo garden
You don't need it to avoid drakes
Just learn the way flamegullet moves you'll be fine
dense ledge
just so hard to get on the platform mid pull in my pugs since they don't use interrupts
lone eagle
Are you skipping storm dragon?
lone eagle
Honestly not really worth to skip, you just lust it on Fort
dense ledge
don't have a set route
lone eagle
It's completion efficient as far as ST mobs goes
And it was nerfed
Flamegullet worth skipping but Thunder dragon is pretty easy if your healer has a pulse
Thunder dragons pathing is also horrendous
Much easier to butt pull it at like 6 points on it's route
dense ledge
do you have the patrol route of the fire guy?
hybrid fossil
just look it up on yt - the skip is pretty easy
lone eagle
The easiest way to avoid it is do the right pat and first right elemental pack when you come up
Also helps with lust timing on fort
Then you turn, do storm and go around circle
Makes it so once your 4th ele is dead you can just book it through fire drags spawn once he lifts up (which is the far right side ele from the boss orientation)
Standard route you'll want to grab his little fire eles as you pass through and don't stop until you're close to boss
dense ledge
damn, thanks for that
white harness
About jade serpent p2 pandaren lady, im colorblind and can barely see the waves go off in p2 only. Should i heroic leap inside while it goes off?
round pendant
Which should I recraft to 405? 🤔
wispy canopy
shield
daring marlin
I saw that
void chasm
nah
daring marlin
warm plinth
About jade serpent p2 pandaren lady, im colorblind and can barely see the waves ...
Yes, if you want to die 🙂
void chasm
tbf it uses a very similar picture as a belt im using so yeah i glanced and replied
warm plinth
About jade serpent p2 pandaren lady, im colorblind and can barely see the waves ...
Stand inside boss. She throws her stupid fire bullshit based on where the closest person is when the circle appears. Then just run at an angle and you'll be safe.
round pendant
About jade serpent p2 pandaren lady, im colorblind and can barely see the waves ...
I'm not colourblind, that shit is just really hard to see and react to imo
huh.
That helps
reef holly
Standard route you'll want to grab his little fire eles as you pass through and ...
Cheers for this
chrome falcon
Stand inside boss. She throws her stupid fire bullshit based on where the close...
so it's just compass directions with one of them pointed at the closest player?
warm plinth
It's toward the player and a cross from there
no one can recraft my shield
uneven mason
If you were on Stormreaver...
heavy temple
would anyone be willing to review some of my logs, please?
uneven mason
would anyone be willing to review some of my logs, please?
We never pass an opportunity to point out others failings.
AHEM I mean, sure
uneven mason
Is this a "how do I do more damage" or "I'm getting murdered whatsup"
heavy temple
how do i play better
golden acorn
i have a general how do i do more damage
uneven mason
i have a general how do i do more damage
press shield slam instead of revenge
golden acorn
is it press revenge more
round pendant
Is it worth getting a crafted 405 ring? my current lowest item is this stupid 382 blaze ring
heavy temple
hm?
golden acorn
4pc was a scam
marsh axle
4pc was a scam
why?
golden acorn
i thought it meant press revenge more
strong forum
no
strong forum
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qPyNxbtmd6nK3vMD/#fight=1&type=damage-done
your CPM is low, youre not pressing your buttons often enough
rend should NEVER be your top dmg
never ever
literally all of your main buttons arent being sent enough
uneven mason
literally all of your main buttons arent being sent enough
It's his build as well
strong forum
revenge, shieldslam, thunderclap and ignore pain
uneven mason
it's just a bit off
strong forum
for example, in my 37min NO21
i had 55 avatar casts
you only had 38 casts in 38 minutes
that alone is a massive difference
uneven mason
ITF was only about 40% uptime at 5stacks
So HR would be a step up
Bolster isn't needed
BLock uptime isn't shabby though, 79%, so another 10-15% there for a gold star
heavy temple
Ok thanks guys
heavy temple
This key sucked ass cause we had 0 knocks
chrome falcon
hey nomer do you ever drop shockwave in keys
i haven't done it yet but thinking about it every now and then
uneven mason
You need to use SW more
heavy temple
And was running around 24/7
strong forum
in my comp i could've gotten away with not playing shockwave
strong forum
but in normal groups id never not play shockwave
unless it was 100% communicated with the group that it wasnt needed
chrome falcon
yeah like i think in nokhud you can drop it for sure
and be pretty chill
as long as you have people to stun the horn guys before first
you don't really need it for much else
strong forum
nokhud is one of the keys where shockwave is insanely strong tho
there is so much shit to stop
24/7
uneven mason
This key sucked ass cause we had 0 knocks
You're leaning on LS more than SW, LS is a "Meh" CD at best
strong forum
especially around 3rd boss
strong forum
not just cones
literally everything
deathbolts, necrotic eruptions, frontals, swift wind
uneven mason
SS should be like 14ish CPM?
uneven mason
fucking deathballs
weary python
Any idea why this sim is telling me that my current gear is a DPS increase? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5howZM9rbhVBEigKBBMbpp
uneven mason
Margin of Error
strong forum
order
weary python
order?
strong forum
the order of trinket use
heavy temple
You're leaning on LS more than SW, LS is a "Meh" CD at best
I'm pressing ls to not have to worry about sb
strong forum
matters
uneven mason
I'm pressing ls to not have to worry about sb
Run HR and press SS more
SB becomes a not thing
strong forum
you can compare your log with mine
i did 78k dps in that nokhud if you count spellreflect
without SR i did 73.6k
heavy temple
Yeah, but why hr, isn't itf strictly better if sb uptime is good?
strong forum
?
weary python
But isn't the order of the trinket the same as what I have equipped?
uneven mason
If you can assure 5 stacks the majority of the time
silent anchor
Shit tons of rage wasted on that log too
strong forum
yeah but your SB uptime isnt good
uneven mason
Yeah, but why hr, isn't itf strictly better if sb uptime is good?
So ITF is good if you can maintain the stack cap 80%~ of the time and have 36ish% haste unbuffed
strong forum
ok, you blocked 91% of melees
uneven mason
he's ok
strong forum
but playing ITF is so unsafe idk
uneven mason
on that front
strong forum
its at best a 7% aoe dps gain
weary python
@strong forum So with that sim it's telling me to fire off Grieftorch first, then use the windscar?
strong forum
much less if you cant guarantee 5stacks of ITF
strong forum
<@192743144276623360> So with that sim it's telling me to fire off Grieftorch fi...
ye
you just use grieftorch before CDs
to not waste anything
uneven mason
Yeah, but why hr, isn't itf strictly better if sb uptime is good?
SO key points,
More buttons pressing, just in general you're not pressing buttons. SS > TC > REvenge for GCD, hit IP more, you overcap and that's WITH the expanded cap
weary python
How do I tell the sim to do that then?
heavy temple
SO key points,
More buttons pressing, just in general you're not pressing button...
Ok thanks alot
weary python
I guess it's kind of weird that it's telling me that
I figured since that's the gear I have on it would be a +0
uneven mason
Ok thanks alot
You also left CDs off CD, PRESS THE BUTTON
strong forum
ya idk whats going on there
uneven mason
SW is a 50s CD with fast play
Running Thunderlord you hsould have a ton more DS casts as well
either put the taletn in a better spot, or remember to slap DS
BUt you have the cornerstone down
strong forum
yeah youre not putting thunderlord to use at all
uneven mason
91% blocked hits is solid
strong forum
i dont play with TL and have the same uses as you do
youre literally wasting an entire talent point there
uneven mason
youre literally wasting an entire talent point there
Just saying he has overwhelming rage as well
uneven mason
I suppose
strong forum
and yeah, youre still overcapping almost 15% of your rage
when it should be closer to 1%
urban portal
Overwhelming rage can hypothetically be a dps up
strong forum
ye
uneven mason
and yeah, youre still overcapping almost 15% of your rage
This means hammer that IP button
urban portal
Just that the 2 points can be hard to fit
uneven mason
Just that the 2 points can be hard to fit
It's a utility point for QOL
Intervene or bitter iirc
urban portal
Game feels unplayable without stride
strong forum
yeah
uneven mason
I'm in that boat for sure hah
Warrior without stride is like "shit, am I on my DK?"
urban portal
And pain and gain is still minor hps
marble bridge
Evening folks - I've looked through the pins and dug around a few other places but haven't been able to find a weakaura or plater profile that will let me know what to do with boss abilities (reflect, block, tank bust) (in M+ I don't raid) does anyone know of a WA or plater profile that does such a thing? Thanks!
strong forum
85-95
strong forum
Evening folks - I've looked through the pins and dug around a few other places b...
thats extremely complex, way too complex to display
marble bridge
thats extremely complex, way too complex to display
beauty ty - good to know I'm not wasting time. Typically I rely on memory but I'm geting old
strong forum
anything thats a shot with a bow or a swing with a weapon/fist is usually blockable
anything that sounds like frostbolt/firebolt and is single target and targeted at you, is usually reflectable
uneven mason
Moral of the story is press SB when in combat
strong forum
those are the basic rules of thumb for those scenarios
acoustic edge
Question on rage management. Is there any tips or trick to it? I find myself overlapping a lot. Is there like a min amount or rage you try and keep and anything above that just hit rev/ip? Or just constantly dump?
uneven mason
Question on rage management. Is there any tips or trick to it? I find myself ove...
press IP
Its off GCD
warm plinth
Question on rage management. Is there any tips or trick to it? I find myself ove...
Constantly dump unless it'll make you unable to refresh Shield Block
uneven mason
just slap IP
strong forum
dont drop below 30 rage unless you know better
spam the fuck out of IP if you run into danger of capping rage
use revenge as a tool to reset shield slam
uneven mason
my WA turns red when I'm over 65 rage
marble bridge
Thanks!
acoustic edge
Hm I find I’m not hitting revenge enough I feel. I actually always feels gcd constraint dunno why
silent anchor
Do you guys spend SR procs on TC in aoe?
acoustic edge
my WA turns red when I'm over 65 rage
Good idea I think I’m going to add this too
silent anchor
Sweet.
uneven mason
Hm I find I’m not hitting revenge enough I feel. I actually always feels gcd con...
yeah, Reveng is just what you press when SS and TC are not available
to try and reset SS (and do some damage)
white harness
seeing on the talent builds that tough as nails got replaces by spell block recently, does it help on some particular tyrannical bosses or just overall a better choice?
m+ that is
warm plinth
Talent builds where?
white harness
m+ subcreation
warm plinth
There are a few dungeons where it's worth taking Spell Block
Outside of that it's not worth it
uneven mason
seeing on the talent builds that tough as nails got replaces by spell block rece...
just depends on the dungeon, it's a niche use ability
white harness
I'd say so too, now its like 90% of the builds on the site, perhaps im reading it wrong thanks
uneven mason
~~Top key pushers don't know everything~~
fading tide
How am I supposed to tank the last boss on Vault?
daring marlin
~~Top key pushers don't know everything~~
strong forum
around the edges of the room
and keep running away from the orbs when they get close
fading tide
Do I stand still or move him?
fading tide
Just heroic leap away or walk and build up the debuff?
daring marlin
Aids boss
strong forum
awful boss
daring marlin
Orbs should only ever chase healers
supple tusk
for most of the fight you can usually just leap and flip the boss 180 when orbs get close to keep him in place and still dodge, but if you're unlucky you'll eventually just have to kite a bit
fading tide
Cool thanks for the tips
void chasm
@white harness where are you getting the talent builds from?
uneven mason
Orbs should only ever chase momentum DH
strong forum
orbs shouldnt exist
fading tide
Idk why I’m running this instance it’s not fun at all
warm plinth
Orbs should only ever chase momentum DH
LOL
strong forum
AV is awful
daring marlin
That too
warm plinth
First boss is like 2nd boss of Underrot but they somehow made it worse
er, 3rd boss of UR
fading tide
I’m just trying to get a 2H to mess with arms off spec when it gets buffed
uneven mason
First boss is like 2nd boss of Underrot but they somehow made it worse
Mushroom boy
First boss is fairly simple aslong as you don't have a lot of bugged trees
that just don't die
supple tusk
AV is awful
ngl AV is kinda growing on me with the 3-bosses-back-to-back meme route
but mostly for the novelty of the route being completely meme 
daring marlin
Mushroom boss was way worse
south zealot
third boss sucks
south zealot
it’s boring and you either win or lose
daring marlin
This man spittin'
final gust
I can't stand 2nd boss lmao
void chasm
i need to get it on like a 14-15 for rating
fluid shard
I was trying to cap this KSH this week but god the affixes burn me out
void chasm
the seasonal mount just requires KSM achievment or all dungeons +15 also?
fluid shard
Just ksm
south marlin
Where are the coming nerfs listed? cant find anything for prot here: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/news/23892227/dragonflight-1005-content-update-notes
fluid shard
Totjs, lust jade phase or last boss?
wooden widget
craggy pilot
does Revenge kill Explosives if i have it target when i cast it? 🤔
or can i only kill Explosives with SS?
strong forum
No
You can only kill them with auto attacks, shield slam, shield charge and heroic throw
pallid quiver
Shield Chargng an explosive is big sad
strong forum
And i guess wrecking/shattering throw too, but lmao
open bluff
you can only cast aoe on explosives if it requires a target and it’s the primary target (eg brm keg smash works)
craggy pilot
You can only kill them with auto attacks, shield slam, shield charge and heroic ...
rip
craggy pilot
Shield Chargng an explosive is big sad
shield slamming an explosive is also big sad
feel like we are kinda bad at melee Explosives then
pallid quiver
If you're at a point where you're using aoe abilities, you can just target them while pressing revenge/tc
open bluff
No
strong forum
Vdh is even worse at explosive
slim dove
you can hamstring/slam them also
pallid quiver
So your autos will get them
slim dove
like regular ass boring slam
pallid quiver
Since you don't need to target the actual mobs for those, you only lose aa damage
craggy pilot
you can hamstring/slam them also
wait hamstring works?
slim dove
wait hamstring works?
it does damage and its targetted.
slim dove
aren't they 1 hp?
craggy pilot
might be, didnt notice 😄
daring marlin
prot pally with blessed hammer was prolly the worst at explosive
deft mortar
since its tryannical week
idk if I need so much talents on revenge
im thinking Sudden Death + Battering Ram
instead SoF + Thunderlord
SoF still more overall dmg I think
craggy pilot
instead SoF + Thunderlord
thunderlord to battering ram is an easy choice
deft mortar
y
craggy pilot
SoF for Sudden Death idk rly
slim dove
desyncing shouts from ur cds is wack
craggy pilot
i never run Thunderlord after i swapped to Battering Ram
slim dove
thunderlord is GARBO
deft mortar
Im also thinking immovable object
craggy pilot
i had a guy tell me that he liked Thunderlord because he doesnt see Demo Shout as a dmg CD, he sees it as a high uptime defensive CD
craggy pilot
Im also thinking immovable object
?
craggy pilot
you dont rly "wall better" you just get free wall when you Avatar
which doesnt always line up with when you need it
deft mortar
it does with little managing
astral bane
how do you guys deal with the tree boss' lasher DoTs?
lapis kiln
Avatar should be used on cooldown
craggy pilot
how do you guys deal with the tree boss' lasher DoTs?
get dispelled
craggy pilot
if you do 1 Shockwave on all the Lashers, your DOT wont stack up insanely
daring marlin
1.5 min trash
craggy pilot
but healer should be specced into Poison dispel
astral bane
get dispelled
is it considered poison?
daring marlin
Tyrannical week ez
craggy pilot
is it considered poison?
yes, some healers can dispel it if they talent for it
craggy pilot
Shaman cant though, so dont invite Shamans to AA without a DPS priest or something like that
daring marlin
squint
deft mortar
Tyra week act half the dungeon health pool might be in bosses
craggy pilot
its annoying to talent in Tyrannical week
???
i just use same talents
i dunno what ur issue is lol
daring marlin
^
lapis kiln
Anyone tried selling 60-70 carries in cobalt as prot?
deft mortar
U know mages switch specs based off tyra vs fortified right
daring marlin
we're mages now?
craggy pilot
U know mages switch specs based off tyra vs fortified right
most DPS classes do
but are you a DPS class?
or a tank?
daring marlin
shit bro I can respec now
daring marlin
titanic throw let's go baby
craggy pilot
only thing i respec for is Temple
daring marlin
we kiters
deft mortar
these guys are going for completion instead beat timer
Idk if I should build defensive instead than
meh no threat anyway
moved stance button from N to V
much more accessible
craggy pilot
i love having everything timed on 18+ some on 19
but still not getting invited to peoples 18+ keys 😄
void chasm
https://gyazo.com/765c7f678cf23a7c09020a4d45e47c05 Opinions on the stat weights atm?
oblique quarry
more haste is always better from my xp
mighty valley
stat balance matters so little
just chase ilvl upgrades, choose haste when identical
or gems/enchants etc
void chasm
iv been looking at haste>vers>mast>crit as priorities otherwise
limber flame
crit = vers
mighty valley
vers and crit might as well be equal, mastery lags behind
dense ledge
2nd bossi in rlp is such a pain, how do you properly bait? frontal behind/sides of bossi and add similar?
mighty valley
any direction you're not planning to walk
sides or behind boss, so long as it's not exploding on terrain
limber flame
2nd boss just targets furthest person for the add right?
mighty valley
they're probably talking baiting for boulder
next copper
Add is based on ranged. They never bait it well.
Most groups don't even bait the boulders well.
wraith wigeon
Okay I feel stupid but....didn't Thunder Clap have 2 charges for Prot as well as other specs?
sick sentinel
no more keys for yogi, that's a lie, but , i dion't really want to do more now
die to dumb stuff
we have had explosives all week so far, and for a long time on the rotation, i dunno how you don't kill the explosives
astral bane
fuck crawth and his peck
slim dove
sick sentinel
thank you
i might just start putting on d-stance for the entire of shit bosses that kill me
some fights just take so much more than another
craggy pilot
jesus christ the bleed on last boss Nokhud slaps on Tyran
void chasm
when do i spell reflect for the elemental boss on NO? can't seem to get it right tbh
craggy pilot
when do i spell reflect for the elemental boss on NO? can't seem to get it right...
when you run out of melee range
he casts Wind Burst or something
void chasm
3m dmg on the last boss with it though
pallid quiver
You have time to see him start the wind burst cast, so you can wait until he's actually casting it so you don't get spell queued or something
craggy pilot
ye sometimes you run out, and he doesnt cast it cus hes in the mid of a Storm cast fx
fading tide
Tier gear is the best to put my valor into right?
dusk tulip
with 4pc do you think it'll be worth running the heal off of deep wounds talent rather than the add to Ignore pain in the choice node?
since your uptime on ignore pain through the tier set is pretty juiced
inner rock
no more keys for yogi, that's a lie, but , i dion't really want to do more now
I have found pugging yhis week to be x5 worse than other weeks and i dont understand why
void chasm
i think its the explosive
between trying to interrupt, tunnel dps and move from bad people forget explosive or the latter
cloud umbra
bait add in front of boss boulder behind
sick sentinel
sanguine artificially inflates timers too lets not lie to ourselves
craggy pilot
with 4pc do you think it'll be worth running the heal off of deep wounds talent ...
more uptime = more value from Ignore Pain talent
dusk tulip
3rd a brew monk? i seen their dam rn jeeeeez
sick sentinel
its literal like blizzard puts oil on the tracks and then you crash your lap t8me is longer so its harder and more fun.....
not quite how what i said works...
dusk tulip
more uptime = more value from Ignore Pain talent
I was primarily thinking since the 4pc is like a baby version of that talent anyways but i've been too nervous to test 😭
fading tide
Bros I need a break from maghar. What race looks good for warrior besides Orc
craggy pilot
I was primarily thinking since the 4pc is like a baby version of that talent any...
the deep wounds talent kinda sucks though
so not worth
sick sentinel
basically not gnome or fox ismy vote
dusk tulip
Thats a shame ty for the info tho c:
craggy pilot
whats the idea behind 4 tanks?
just for fun or what?
my problem of telling "low dps tanks" to go dps, is that they will just do low dps dps
meanwhile the high dps tanks will do high dps dps
if that makes any sense 🤣
on avg when im in raid, i add about +15k dps to our avg raider, doesnt matter if im tank or dps...
our current tank is doing like 25k dps in Raid
while i do like 40k
and our avg dps do like 40k dps, while i do 55k in Arms 😄
reef holly
I have found pugging yhis week to be x5 worse than other weeks and i dont unders...
My experience has been the same. Explosives kill any big pulls I want to do because healer(or anyone else) can’t kill all the orbs in time. So I try to chain pull, but then get yelled at by dps to pull more. So I pull more and then we all die to explosives.. rinse and repeat. I am done for the week
craggy pilot
My experience has been the same. Explosives kill any big pulls I want to do beca...
what key levels?
void chasm
13+ tbh
reef holly
what key levels?
13-15
craggy pilot
just keep going
you will get good grps eventually
have 0 problems with Explosive in my +18s today
reef holly
That must be nice
craggy pilot
the point is
sick sentinel
sanguine can healthe samw big dragon to full 4 times, he wipes the party and then everyone gives up and leaves
dusk tulip
the key to explosives imo is communicating with your healer early
craggy pilot
even if you dont time a key, it might be some people failing a few times here and there
dusk tulip
ask if they're okay to do most or if they need help
reef holly
I’ve done about 10 keys and gained literal 20 pts in IO
craggy pilot
if you just keep going, you will get a lucky grp eventually
dusk tulip
if they need help then you can go from there
sick sentinel
thats possibility too, not likely but ive seen dumber shit happen mid key
craggy pilot
i just heroic throw whenever they have the right distance
otherwise i let DPS do it
reef holly
the key to explosives imo is communicating with your healer early
Yeah this is a good point- I need to do this
craggy pilot
"let dps do it" is where my issue is
thats just other players mistakes
that happens in any key
people fuck up from here and there
its normal, and human behaviour
just keep going forward, and youll get there in the end
untiming a key does not mean people are shit
just means they made a mistake
you cant play 100% flawless runs every time
void chasm
very logical way to think about it
reef holly
i just heroic throw whenever they have the right distance
Yeah but man i think I timed 2 out of 10-12 keys
BRUTAL
craggy pilot
i stopped thinking like "someone inting my key" and rather think "oh a small mistake, hope this wont happen next time"
reef holly
I’m not a leaver either, I’ll stick it out
craggy pilot
learn from mistakes
sick sentinel
what im feeling towards current wow is an its me not you situation
fading tide
I did an Academy 10 cause I’m trying to get the 2H from it and it was an absolute nightmare. Now@I won’t go below 16. The higher the key the better the run most times
void chasm
im not getting accepted for much higher than 14 atm for pugging
1800 rating 395 but no dice there
craggy pilot
im not getting accepted for much higher than 14 atm for pugging
you have a key yourself though
sick sentinel
its great game but itsboring, and i dont mean the bad boring like shadowlands
sick sentinel
its a good type of boring if anything
craggy pilot
then ull be warmed up
reef holly
I did an Academy 10 cause I’m trying to get the 2H from it and it was an absolut...
Yeah I’m not hardcore gamer like the rest of y’all probably are, but I timed 20 last season of SL and it was probably the smoothest run I’ve ever done 
And the highest
craggy pilot
usually higher up means people have tried the dungeons many times
so they know their way around
reef holly
Yeah that makes sense. I try not to get mad at depletes, but when your 13min overtime on a 13 key, that is tiresome
sick sentinel
i will likely stop wow when sub is up
reef holly
i will likely stop wow when sub is up
How many hours You play a day?
dusk tulip
Another thing that helps is knowing when something goes wrong to wipe and go again sometimes you lose more time trying to fix a mistake than you'd lose just quickly resetting
void chasm
Yeah that makes sense. I try not to get mad at depletes, but when your 13min ove...
just had a 10minute overtime for NO 13...
we got to 3rd boss with like 16-18 minutes and wiped like 7 times..
mighty valley
3rd boss???
reef holly
Another thing that helps is knowing when something goes wrong to wipe and go aga...
Yep. Also, if you pug 100% like I do, plan your route with all butt pulls in mind. No fancy “walk in between these two packs”
mighty valley
damn, that's not one of the bosses i see people struggle on
dusk tulip
i only just learned today they get a damage buff if they're apart 😭
orchid mural
Trinket opinion: I have Blazebinders Hoof, 411, (use) Whetstone 402, (use) and All-totem of the Master 408. Should i use two on-use trinks do u think?
reef holly
i only just learned today they get a damage buff if they're apart 😭
Just learned this now 😂
urban bane
o_o;
reef holly
Just learned this now 😂
Although I always charge the arrow shooter when she leaps away
So the other dude follows me
dusk tulip
I normally just keep them together bc monkey brain like big cleave number
slim dove
Trinket opinion: I have Blazebinders Hoof, 411, (use) Whetstone 402, (use) and A...
use whetstone + all totem
void chasm
we wiped to Gale arrow a lot. DPS kept dying to that
dusk tulip
but i dps'd one earlier and got slapped by the bow womans quick shot
void chasm
or the earthbreaker from the boss
reef holly
Honestly never wiped on that boss
sick sentinel
the real reason i gaveuo tonight is because i did 13 hov, we got to hyraj, and she hit me for 327 k with kb attack, i have about 425k before buffs
reef holly
the real reason i gaveuo tonight is because i did 13 hov, we got to hyraj, and s...
That’s the reason your quitting?!
mighty valley
did you use a cooldown
reef holly
Did you press shield reflect?
torn jay
my guy you have IP, shield wall, SR, demo, maybe spellblock
reef holly
Shield reflect is fine for me- I think I’m around 425k hp
Doesn’t hurt at all
But also I’m in d stance
dusk tulip
speaking of spell block i'm just letting jesus take the wheel in my 15-17 range but finally have the time to commit to some m+ pushing, what dungeons warrant the spell block talent? i was thinking AV and maybe RLP
toxic pewter
av rlp tjs hov
tender cove
the real reason i gaveuo tonight is because i did 13 hov, we got to hyraj, and s...
winners never quit and quitters never win. Just remember that.
I legit have more untimed keys this week than timed. Pugs are just rough at times and sometimes its your fault. Don't put too much weight on it.
dusk tulip
Tanking can be the single most stressful thing in wow
mortal brook
Watch me quit on next weeks affixes
tender cove
Tanking can be the single most stressful thing in wow
I get on average one death threat/told to die of "x" reason a month lol
urban bane
speaking of spell block i'm just letting jesus take the wheel in my 15-17 range ...
tjs fer shur
dusk tulip
Sometimes you can play perfectly but anyone can make a small mistake and bam next thing you know everyones dead and you're being called slurs by the outlaw rogue
tender cove
Yes and they're so ignorant to their own constant mistake but you do one little fuckup? one mispull or w/e, the sky is falling for some people. Its equally sad and hilarious, wow is weird like that.
tender cove
Watch me quit on next weeks affixes
You're not allowed to quit. I dont want to imagine a wow without you in it 😦 ❤️
mortal brook
Ya boi doin 4 dungeons and callin it a week
tender cove
what even is it next week?
dusk tulip
haven't even looked at next weeks affixs
mortal brook
Fort bolster
tender cove
ugh
dusk tulip
and storming gross
mortal brook
Hecker like nokhud with a miniboss in every single pack
tender cove
both bolster and raging feel so unrewarding, you're about to kill it, you can finally breath and nope sorry, get fucked xD
dusk tulip
i'm just thankful theres no inspiring this time round with how many nasty kicks there are
void chasm
so with the warrior nerfs and the week of affix's we just throw wow in the bin?
dusk tulip
I don't think the warrior nerfs will end up being that huge tbh
tender cove
so with the warrior nerfs and the week of affix's we just throw wow in the bin?
I'm just gonna reroll my 2nd warr. I feels he's going to be stronger.
dusk tulip
I want them to buff prots damage >:c
Brew master monks out here doing more damage than some DPS specs 😭
reef holly
I'm just gonna reroll my 2nd warr. I feels he's going to be stronger.
I think i will level my mage, wait an hour to get in a key, talk shit on the tank 10 min into the dungeon, and then leave
tender cove
I think i will level my mage, wait an hour to get in a key, talk shit on the tan...
People invite mages? 😒
reef holly
you’re right- I’ll level my warlock
tender cove
Brew master monks out here doing more damage than some DPS specs 😭
i'd be content with brew taking the fotm spotlight, let em have it and leave us alone.
dusk tulip
i don't think i've seen a single prot paladin or Vengence DH when i've pugged keys as dps
tender cove
i don't think i've seen a single prot paladin or Vengence DH when i've pugged ke...
pally is pretty fun tbh and feels pretty strong. Its a bit more spikier than warr but it also has a tool for almost any situation, just bubble, spellward, bop, freedom etc, it feels pretty nice
tender cove
why play the non S+ tier "tanks"
its a crazy thought i know, it really is...but... some crazy weirdos like myself play the game because its fun
deft mortar
Must be fun not being able to join groups xd
tender cove
I almost always run my own keys so wouldnt notice anyhow
plenty of people join me though
void chasm
https://gyazo.com/29869e23e42d094bbb01728fe47e7439 Fun team comp
tender cove
https://gyazo.com/29869e23e42d094bbb01728fe47e7439 Fun team comp
at least you got lust covered 😄
void chasm
one for each boss almost
tender cove
inb4 they randomly just fat finger it
slim dove
https://gyazo.com/29869e23e42d094bbb01728fe47e7439 Fun team comp
test levels off the charts.
deft mortar
When do we get a warr healing spec with shouts man
that team could be 5 warrs
fkn shame
wanton cave
how high are people going without 2-4 set?
void chasm
i was doing 14's without 2 set
hardy ridge
how high are people going without 2-4 set?
Can do 20+ without it
fluid shard
I’ll say it again bc not everyone knows, on hyrja, you can hit IV as you get knocked from her shield blast, much less stressful on the healer
frosty mango
Can do 20+ without it
You could absolutely do a 20 without set
slim dove
tier much bigger deal for dps then us.
fading tide
What was glad stance like
slim dove
memes
wanton cave
Can do 20+ without it
so the IP/Damage reduction doesnt really make a change to much?
frosty mango
What was glad stance like
Basically what tanking as a prot warrior is right now
slim dove
no, theres very few bosses that we are genuinely threatened by.
lone eagle
so the IP/Damage reduction doesnt really make a change to much?
Currently doing 22-23s the last week and this week on a basically fresh swap pwar
Picked up 2 set
But no 4 yet. The test for timing keys is entirely route, positional and DPS atm
slim dove
But no 4 yet. The test for timing keys is entirely route, positional and DPS atm
also healer skill.
wanton cave
ok, thanks just im struggling to get teir since everyone wants it i currently only have 1 set is all
slim dove
but healer can't be a troglodyte
wanton cave
then im doing something wrong im no way near 40-50k dps
lone eagle
AV and HoV can be DPS limited
wanton cave
at 398
slim dove
AV and HoV can be DPS limited
yes, sorry i should specify those two are outliers with very tight timers.
lone eagle
Missed a 22 HoV by 12 seconds earlier with 3 deaths 😭
DH would just blow CDs then instadie to non threat issues
Then not release
slim dove
nah im making a joke all DH players are room temp IQ
slim dove
https://imgur.com/hYeI19O
mortal brook
tank?
slim dove
my dh does this on purpose now to test my reaction time
pliant helm
Hey, what are the best ways to spend spark?
golden acorn
i wanna make my own frostfire belt but noooooooooooo recipe doesnt drop
tender cove
https://imgur.com/hYeI19O
Almost how my first 17 looked on warrior haven't never figured out voidslash actually hurts on highers keys. Wasn't instant deleted but not very far from it
mortal brook
Hey, what are the best ways to spend spark?
weapon shield lariat and whatever non-tier pieces that you're missing. frostfire belt if you have raid rings
pliant helm
Bet ty
lament zealot
Can you sidearm shit not in combat with you?
tender cove
weapon shield lariat and whatever non-tier pieces that you're missing. frostfire...
allknowing Stevegod. Will sparks be the currency for creation catalyst?
mortal brook
nah no new currency for it
just do a weekly quest
finish quest, get a charge for each of your characters
1 charge a week
mortal brook
correct. also crafted gear cannot be catalyst'd
tender cove
only m/r gear?
void chasm
yup
mortal brook
and primal infused or trophy gear
void chasm
So whats the consensus on which phial is better out of the vers and primary stat
mortal brook
eye in the storm for fort or target heavy places like hov/aa, low target/tyr its vers or elemental chaos yep.
or corrupting rage if you have a mixed relationship with your healer
oblique quarry
what would you guys say the best horde racial is for prot?
void chasm
eye in the storm for fort or target heavy places like hov/aa, low target/tyr its...
love annoying my healer
faint mural
mortal brook
what would you guys say the best horde racial is for prot?
goblin jump, arcane torrent, nose for trouble. its all minor or situational gains tho
void chasm
maghar would be pretty decent right?
mortal brook
the secondary onuse isnt any stronger avg stat than others like orc, panda, troll. but if you think they look pretty, have at it tbh
night galleon
whats the best healer to take for storm boss in nohkud
everytime we get a druid they cant heal through it
night galleon
idk
maybe dps arent using defensives during storm
just always seems like someone dies during it
pallid quiver
can also be DPS hijacking orbs that healer should be grabbing, too
the increased healing can make getting through the storm a lot easier
oblique quarry
yeh, healers also sometimes just don't get orbs which is wild to me
mortal brook
if healer isnt grabbing orbs its a heck. if ppl are grabbing orbs too soon and resetting their stack, its a heck
night galleon
that must be it
i knew i was picking up too many orbs
but really i shouldnt be
im having to move out into wind range because there are like 6 orbs coming at boss on my side and everyone is on the other side for some reason
grand saddle
Any consensus on ruby whelp shell
mighty valley
it's ok
hybrid aurora
I would rally the first storm. After that, healer should have full stack.
hybrid aurora
im having to move out into wind range because there are like 6 orbs coming at bo...
You can Spell Reflect wind
Big dam
astral bane
whats your guys' go to strat for last boss in NO? how to deal with the adds
hybrid aurora
CC one side
mighty valley
im having to move out into wind range because there are like 6 orbs coming at bo...
tell your team to spread out around the boss
hazy sluice
I would say chest with more ILVL no doubt
lapis kiln
My thoughts also 20k hp plus main stats hard to bead
beat*
have you tried the 4 piece tier set?
mighty valley
this'll be solved next week anyway
mighty valley
i've been enjoying lfr raszageth lol
actually had to teach people how to do the fight
and then watch them learn
pallid quiver
you hold w and mash buttons, right?
mighty valley
there was one rogue that was in line for the breath every single pull and just got vaporized
everyone else got better though!
agile schooner
does odyn give you the same color mark every time? Feels like every time the fight goes to 2 runics my 2nd one is the same as the first time
Checked a couple YouTube runs and saw the same thing
agile schooner
ok thanks
hazy sluice
Is the mage tower doable right away or do I need to farm some weird low ILVL gear ?
mighty valley
dunno if anything's changed but i did it in normal shadowlands gear at the time
hazy sluice
Yeah the only worry I have is some weird scaling issues
naive panther
fire damage ring and fire damage belt doing about 700 dps each in sbg 21
belt 20 dps higher
void marten
whats ur overall dps
naive panther
only 44k in that one, we did last boss twice, so that hurt it pretty badly
so both of those were 1.6%
modern folio
i made a little weakaura to help me with reflecting last boss of nokhud. this will tell you exactly when to pre reflect so you are able to reflect every one of the conductive strikes instead of every other
https://wago.io/8gCSiPeQw
thought some might appreciate it, also it needs testing 
naive panther
Every one? So just doing it early enough on first?
modern folio
yup the timeline go's 22-17-22-17
so if you prereflect 2 sec before the 1.5 sec cast you can do every single one
it's def tight
forgot i use naowh's media package for the "reflect" sound but just go to conditions in the WA and change it if you don't have access to his media package
solar sandal
does anyone know what warrior WA set naowh uses? it looks like the hijack one but it's not really. like the design on that one more than what i'm using but dont really feel like custom editing it all myself if i can just find it
modern folio
he uses his own i'm pretty sure
solar sandal
ok that makes sense
amber siren
i made a little weakaura to help me with reflecting last boss of nokhud. this wi...
That's so cool! Thanks
rough egret
does anyone know what warrior WA set naowh uses? it looks like the hijack one bu...
Sou need to sub to his twitch to get it 🙂
modern folio
also working on a reflect WA that doesn't spam you with reflect when it's not cast on you(using the targeted spells WA from the korean guy and butchered it into a reflect WA)
haven't done any testing yet tho so will post it if it actually works 
tame jasper
also working on a reflect WA that doesn't spam you with reflect when it's not ca...
hm only boss I have this problem is the water boss in TJS
void chasm
hey what sim options are best to use for M+? mainly the fight style
ive heard in previous expacs that only patchwerk was "correct" for simming, does that still hold true or have they updated them to calculate better?
heavy temple
SO key points,
More buttons pressing, just in general you're not pressing button...
Hey, so I was testing a bit on the 5 target dummies, and was trying to follow SS>TC>Rev and overcapping rage into IP. And i really only pressed revenge, when SS/TC was not usable.
I had only 15 Rev CPM, while the sim was showing closer to 30 CPM. The thing I dont get is, the sim only has only 5 IP CPM, while I was still struggling with overcapping at ~14 IP CPM.
What intrigues me is, that I cant cast Revenge for like 6/7/8 GCDs due to back to back SS/TC being ready.
The sim also seems to prioritize Rev over TC/SS. I'd assume this is to do not overcap, and spend more rage on Rev over IP?
limpid anchor
Hey, so I was testing a bit on the 5 target dummies, and was trying to follow SS...
Its only during Avatar with uf
Outside of that rev would do more
heavy temple
Outside of that rev would do more
So you'd press revenge to not overcap, while TC is ready?
long stone
Hey, what do you think about the nerf? Problem or naaaaah
lofty widget
pins
long stone
Don’t think 6-7% is a Problem am i wrong ?
unreal sage
Don’t think 6-7% is a Problem am i wrong ?
In terms of survivabilitywe still have tool named Def stance, rnow this is barelly used
But if smth will go wrong with survavebility you still can pop it up more constantly
Which is really Such a waste right now
Everything is about dps, warrior is hyper tanky, have a lot of cc and is doing tons of dmg
Is 7% a huge difference? Normalny propably Yes but warrior is way above most of other tanks So i belive this is nothing we cant deal with
jagged pier
Its mot way abobe most of the other tanks
Bdk and monk and equal/ better
For brood and raz monk and bdk are better than warrior
Pala also id being slept on massivly
unreal sage
I ment m+
jagged pier
Only tank thats behind in terms of suvivbility is druid
Yer in m+
Monk and bdk are equal
Probably paladin as well
unreal sage
So im Just wrong
jagged pier
Pretty much yes
Now ppl have had time to actuall gear other tanks
They are see that balance in terms of suvivability actually really good
Some the theroycrafters have been saying since launch btw
But no one listens to them because they arent big streamers who make teir lists
unreal sage
Leader boaed is almost all Brown, there is some dk, s ik this is albo because of "tank tier lista" which was made at start of expansion
And everybody was Running "Best tank"
jagged pier
Oh wow leader all browm almost like thats because everyone saw tanks with no gear in beta
Now tanks actually start getting gear they are equal
We where capped at 398 or whatever in beta for m+
And yes tier lists effects what alot of ppl play it literally cant be stopped but this narrative of prot being miles ahead is wrong
mortal brook
5 strong tanks, nice to see
jagged pier
:sadbear:
unreal sage
We where capped at 398 or whatever in beta for m+
Good Point
flat jackal
is double shield wallt he play for 3rd boss of TJS on tyran?
- immovable object
doing a 23 and im sweating
analog coyote
M+ tanking is def harder than melee dps
stone condor
did they change something because i quite have problems with my sb uptime
jagged pier
Nope
mortal brook
hi
upper hollow
Hi guys, is Raszageth heroic how do you mitigate Thunderous Blast in P3? Is Spell Block talent nedeed?
jagged pier
Not needed no
SR Sw
If your in Wf group u have SW everytime guarenteed
But external and sr also works fine
Spell block u can take as well
serene stirrup
hey guys i'm in the process of choosing a tank, i see that war is toooo OP. are the nerf hammering it ? Is it worth to take DK instead of war which can be nerfed anytime soon ? thanks a lot for your help 🙂
jagged pier
Warrior has just been nerfed
And again is not OP
Bdk in terms of survivbility actually is equal
Its damage is behind
Utility it had more for sure than warrior
lyric elm
Spell reflect 
lyric elm
All tanks are good now so pick what you think is fun
serene stirrup
All tanks are good now so pick what you think is fun
tbh it depends on community perception. If the community thinks your class is garbage you won't be able to play solo 😒
jagged pier
Thats literally never and not been an issue
random flame
Definitely not as much as a tank
random flame
People crave your tanky powers
mortal brook
All tanks are good now so pick what you think is fun
5 tanks very good rn. just like all 3 secondaries are very good
lyric elm
Prot war is a good beginner tank anyway so go ahead if you think it's an issue
indigo wharf
New weekly nerfs brutal vitality change something, or still better that heal from bleeds?
karmic plinth
still really strong with tier
serene stirrup
Tbh i love both war and Dk, i used to tank a lot in legion and Bfa. I'm still wondering. War is strong now but i guess Dk will scale like a monster after s1
i love both
lyric elm
Think vdh will scale hardest but don't overthink it lol
Every season it's random which classes are meta
serene stirrup
Every season it's random which classes are meta
yes ! i also love BrM 🙂 but too much to do for the same result lol]
lyric elm
Yes many buttons
serene stirrup
Maybe i'll lvl up war and dk and see how it goes...i just need to find the time to do so lol
narrow cradle
Quick question, when using Execute, should I wait to have 40 rage ? Or just use it whenever I have more than 20 ?
wet jackal
hi guys, im new here. does anyone know what 2 embellishments is the best for m+?
lofty widget
Quick question, when using Execute, should I wait to have 40 rage ? Or just use ...
whenever. the dmg scales linearly with rage
so 2x 20 rage executes does the same dmg as 1x 40 rage
mortal brook
at double the gcd
lofty widget
more chances to get ss resets
narrow cradle
whenever. the dmg scales linearly with rage
Thanks, that was my main concern ^^ Thank you for the answer !
hardy fractal
yeah i do feel prot pal is slept on bigly
unreal sage
how does that special apperance for 2500 rio works?
mortal brook
IT DOESNT CUZ ITS BUGGED
jagged pier
^
mortal brook
lone dirge
guys i know this is probably have been asked a lot but im new, im about to craft sword and shield i saw people getting crit mastery on sword or crit versa on shield. i thought our main stats were haste versa no? is there a cap and whatstats should i craft
warm plinth
Where did you see people doing that?
lone dirge
in top warrior runners in raider io
people have like 33 haste and 20+ mastery crit the have weapons and shields with crit master
warm plinth
Uh, on crafted items?
warm plinth
Stats on weapons and shields are irrelevant but if they were crafted you'd still do haste and either crit or vers because you can.
lone dirge
jakey can you check whisp
uncut ibex
should we sync avatar with demo shout if we're not playing with thunderlord?
or only roar / ravagar
ravager*
polar wedge
do you have tips for the bird boss in Algethar? is there a hidden way to not getting destroyed by his beak attack? Rotate my cds isn't enough as in tyrannical it can be quite long
vivid cedar
is it normal to have nothing to press (for like a couple seconds) while you're low on rage and shield slam and thunder clap are on cd?
jagged pier
is it normal to have nothing to press (for like a couple seconds) while you're l...
your probably dumping too much if you running into this
jagged pier
do you have tips for the bird boss in Algethar? is there a hidden way to not get...
healer job
or be dwarf
or bring evoker
polar wedge
evoker can rmeove bleed?
vivid cedar
oh so I shoulnt be on 0 rage constantly
so I dont just press IP 3 times if i have full rage?
astral crystal
evoker can rmeove bleed?
yes
polar wedge
hmmm
I was in 19 it was very hard
but ok
but between a poison dispell and this what the worst? ^^
jagged pier
so I dont just press IP 3 times if i have full rage?
no u press 1
to stop overcapping from the next SS
vivid cedar
oh ok, so in that case if im sitting at like 80 rage and press IP but SS and TC are on cd, do I press revenge or something
vivid cedar
more than IP?
vivid cedar
no wonder im doing no damage
im only level 67 so still huge noob basically
im finding it a little difficult to try and keep SB and IP up at all times basically while focusing on moving the add packs and pressing other abilities but i probably just need more practice
jagged pier
it comes with talents and practice
vivid cedar
when should I be switching stances? if I should at all
whole vortex
When you need to take a tank buster but have no big defensive CDs available
go D stance and pray to jesus
then go back to battle
vivid cedar
lmao
lofty widget
never while lvling and only for tank busters if youhave to for high keys
whole vortex
Get used to not relying on Dstance, instead plan defensive CDs and don't overlap them unless you have to
that way you'll have another 15% DR in your backpocket
to pull out in emergencies
vivid cedar
what do i pop if i need a something more than IP & SB besides shield wall?
whole vortex
Need a little more? Spell Reflect or Demo shout
need more use both
then you have last stand and rally for more HP if needed
night python
do yall just tank diurna in def stance the whole time? I tried doing eggs and kept getting destroyed
timber terrace
That's a bad take tbh you should sit in dstance everytime you feel like you can die and with experience you'll know when you can/should go battle stance
lofty widget
do yall just tank diurna in def stance the whole time? I tried doing eggs and ke...
on heroic you can chill in b stance, dunno about mythic
night python
I was in normals 🥲
timber terrace
Telling beginners to go battle stance nonstop when they're probably struggling to play anyway is just dumb
night python
My second day tanking with warrior, i did every other boss fine, but diurna just blows me up. Can't figure out what to do, I guess I'm not pressing IP enough
whole vortex
you will learn a lot faster in Battle stance
timber terrace
On lower difficulties on diurna her hp will most likely be capped by the number of eggs your damage literally doesn't matter
whole vortex
if you're still learning you're probably also in low stakes content
better learn early
timber terrace
15% dr is massive while 15% more damage on a beginner tank is gonna amount to nothing all you're gonna learn is to int your group
lofty widget
15 % dr is really not massive :p
timber terrace
hazy sluice
My IP gets eaten up on big pulls so fast in 20+ keys that I use revenge way more less than I should do i think.
lofty widget
hey, whatever works for you
urban basin
Yo guys, for some reason I always die on 2nd Boss in Ruby. Even through SW. Does anyone have any tips for me?
hazy sluice
Revenge is overall mostly on place 4 or something
Also I get a lot SS resets and tend to spend them instant and IP if it would overcap rage
I dunno man. Feels weird to prio revenge over anything for me
timber terrace
That's not for me tho that's for someone that just picked the spec and you're telling him to trade his survivability for 3-4k dps
whole vortex
He asked when to stance weave, I gave an answer
urban basin
Are you tanking near wall?
Nah, not tanking near a wall. Could it be that i need to stay in melee to the boss as long as possible?
can u block that tank buster hit combo
lofty widget
yes
urban basin
maybe i cant block if not n melee?
lofty widget
you can
plush storm
Is there a way in logs to easily filter Ignore Pain gained from BrV/4p vs actual casts of IP?
hazy sluice
Yo guys, for some reason I always die on 2nd Boss in Ruby. Even through SW. Does...
Bring evoker to dispell bleed. Bleed is what makes u die
Or dwarf it
Spellblock and SR doesn't help since it's a bleed
lofty widget
you can have wall for every other, then tell your healer to give an external for the others
lean gale
Stance Swap in def for it and maybe pool some rage for ip
lofty widget
shouldnt be necesarry, they nerfed it quite a lot recently
digital frigate
Bring evoker to dispell bleed. Bleed is what makes u die
this is the best advice here
urban basin
Just to clarify, sry to bother you so much: If I am not in melee to the boss I cant block his attacks, correct?
lean gale
+20 sbg with a average healer it can be a pain
digital frigate
Made that encounter easy
lofty widget
Just to clarify, sry to bother you so much: If I am not in melee to the boss I c...
yes you can block if youre not in melee as long as you face the boss
lean gale
Question to you guys: I have Whispering Incarnate Icon and Decoration of Flame. Would you play Ruby Whelp Shell or Blazebinder's Hoof in favor of any of the 2?
Decoration of Flame feels so lackluster to play
lean gale
Icon i play for raid
jagged pier
yer but in m+ its meh
jagged pier
what ilvls are your trinkets?
lean gale
Both 402 but i have Valor.
sturdy locust
392 Puzzle Box, 385 Blazebinders Hoof, 402 Rumbling Ruby, 402 Bonemaw's Big Toe.
Which trinkets do you think i should run for M+?
I'm thinking of running 402 Rumbling Ruby and 402 Bonemaw's Big Toe.
jagged pier
Both 402 but i have Valor.
yer what about the raid trinkets
lean gale
yer what about the raid trinkets
Decoration 415 and Other 408
jagged pier
whats your ruby trained too
lean gale
6 Single Target atm
jagged pier
its tough
the raid trinkets due to ilvl are just better
if they were all 415
i would run ruby and hoof
unless
the healer and dps have icon as well
sacred flare
How do you deal with the tank buster on the bird boss in AA
grave flower
The bleed?
lean gale
the healer and dps have icon as well
Which would you drop in favor for icon?
lofty widget
it's pinned
grave flower
Dwarf, evoker, rotate CDs
jagged pier
Which would you drop in favor for icon?
hoof probably
but i dont actually know how good it is
never had one
lean gale
hoof probably
I want to farm the CoS trinket maybe, and want to know which trinket is worth to play alongside and upgrade. i have much valor
sacred flare
what about flame
lean gale
All totem is good?
grave flower
I have whet and all totem and it feels so good
jagged pier
its the bis m+ trinket
lofty widget
all totem is nutty
lean gale
or whetstone and boon
Sorry for that but what is boon?
grave flower
All totem is crazy good
jagged pier
Sorry for that but what is boon?
dathea trinket
grave flower
Boon of the storm eater
lean gale
Thx!
blazing condor
i got all totem from my weekly quest chest
lean gale
So safe the valor and try to get CoS with All totem
jagged pier
actually considering open chest as prot against as mythic all totem is in my loot pool now
grave flower
Boon just feels bad to me. I have a 408 boon and I really don’t like the 10 second root.