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i did a 23 like 20min before, we had 5 Kicks and double wall saved my fucking ass
wall cd is literally more uptime in dungeons
Wall -> Spellblock 2x -> Wall -> Wall
double wall is when you need it back to back
y'all are ignoring the rage generation on impenetrable
who cares on the rage generation if you die in 10 sec
I'd like to use you twice in 30s
daddy

@chrome falcon
double wall cd per wall is 1;30, the other talen is 1min CONSIDERING you shield slam on cd
so as an example we go on a pack where u go dont use shield slam on cd so the realistic wall cd would be around 1;15
as for bosses if you have double wall, you can kinda of use 2 walls in a row while waiting for other cds
Also the big for double wall FOR ME perosnally is that if I play with one wall I tend to under use it and I think its case for most players who play this talent
and as u mentionied it gives 3 additonal rage per SS so after using 12 SS u have 1 additional IP
i slam wall constantly
People bringing up Rage gen while dying to 3rd Boss TJS / Bird on Academy
unless u need it for some reason
using reduct talent
who's dying to panda/bird
because i'm not
compare you wall usage to some1 who plays with double wall on logs
why š¤Ø
are you doing 20+ keys
all is key level dependant ..
yes
living the bird on 24 is fucking hard
i agree
which is why i'm always happy to have the correct talents
i mean i'll try it in my 22 academy i'm doing tonight but
i feel totally fine on that boss i've never understood the hype on it
maybe i just have good healer privilege
bird i run single wall
why would you do that if you have the correct talents already
cuz it gets reduced
cuz the fights long
and rest of the key i want single
tjs 3rd boss p2 is way faster
than 1 birb
on bird I think its better to run the 1 wall talent and 3 rage casue u pretty much use it on cd
true good point

idk i think on panda you just go wall -> spell block next 2 -> DS+SR -> rally+LS -> wall probably up again and you're kinda chilling but i haven't gone higher than 23 on tyr and my healer is goated
sure you send DS on pull as well
just use cds with sortest cds combined to have atelast 40% DR always and its all good then
all these nerfs to ignore pain. passive generation is fueld gonna outpreform
Is there a post or if someone could explain how exactly does the spell block talent work?
all what nerfs to ignore pain
Block was nerfed, no?
- Shield Block causes you to block all physical/physical ranged attacks.
- Spell Block enables blocking to also block spells.
- Press Shield Block + Spell Block = 100% chance to block spells.
Protection
Brace for Impact now increases block value by 3% (was 5% per stack).
Brutal Vitality now causes 10% of the damage you deal to add to your Ignore Pain (was 15%).
Shield Specialization now increases block value by 12% per rank (was 15%).
What does that have to do with Ignore Pain
It nerfed a talent that adds to IP, not IP
bv nerf?
ur right prot is dead go reroll brm.
Brutal Vitality could not exist and we would still be fine.
So it stops spell damage? Or spells cast on me in general? And is it better with ticking dmg or is it the same compared with a big spell dmg blast
It blocks spell damage. It works exactly like blocking, just with magic.
im just wondering if fueled will get more value I guess sim it to see
DoTs are not blockable.
How are you going to sim FbV vs BrV
Neither of them do damage
you will not be able to determined which is better
by feel alone
you're just gonna guess
So in the discussion above, spell block would only stop the first hit?
No, it works exactly like blocking.
exactly
If I press Shield Block, how many attacks do I block
20 seconds you can block spells
The tjs 3rd boss thing p2 thing
I block all of them for the duration right
i'm pretty sure this person doesn't understand what "blocking" means
Oh okay, in that context, yes
so, what classes and spells are best to CC adds on final boss of nokhud if i attempt to push that key again
It would only block the first hit (not stop it, block it)
i think the plan is we CC and leave 2 of the adds alone
BrV is likely still better because it interacts with tier, (this speculation comes from pins) @slow pawn
on either left or right side
The initial hit of Jade Serpent Strike would be mitigated. The DoT portion would not be.
I think I had hunter freeze trap one. Important note on the adds is that people kick them. I am able to do first two on either side with pummel and storm bolt, and then hope and pray dps know where their kick button is
Yea i understand how blocking reduces dmg, just wanted to be clear if it reduces main cast dmg or dot
never the dot
u cant block dots
if u could prot warrior would be even more cracked
Anyone else have some weird issue with thunderclap CD on weak auras?
Just have someone cc far right add, kick the second one on the right and use disrupting shout for the two on the left. ez gather
Sometimes it's greyed out and has 10 seconds, but it's glowing
I love disrupting
drop show of force ig
ye
i basically never do keys without disrupting these days
losing some damage is so worth it
that spell is just insane
I agree on this for pugs
i never run disrupting shout
what dungeons is it good in
So uhm, whats the opinion on the prot nerfs? isnt it just removing the 4set bonus? seems kinda bad imo
All top prot warriors are now re-rolling monk
it wont kill us, not even close
nokhud literally just for last boss (again depends on comp), algethar for the packs before elemental boss + dragon boss, halls it's quite good for thundercallers especially the double pull, TJS it's great for a lot of the packs, SMBG it's great for the dominator packs
but it will affect how the average pug sees us as being "weaker" now
Actually good points, I will run it today also
Some new nerf?
I wouldn't run it for the dominator packs unless you're doing something weird with them
What do you drop for disrupting shout though thats my main issue? Is show of force what you drop
You don't usually want to kick those
i dont think its super needed in most keys
inting shout vs disrupting shout, who wins
disrupting shout is necessary with pugs or if no comms to coordinate interrupt
if u got a co ordinated team for interrupts then no need disrupting
^
i can think of 100 things to drop for inting shout
i like disrupting for snap aoe aggro sometimes
but not alot for disruption
Should I craft Shield of the Hearth of Molten Defender?
Molten Defender
Molten Defender is better than Hearth
HELLO PROTECTION NERFED?
yes. time for protwars to reroll brewmaster
THE SKY IS FALLING, DOOM DOOM
cos brew is buffed
BREW BUFFED
brew is high dmg
Prot nerf, brew buff, obviously you play brew
Did anyone not expect us to get tuned? Honestly I was kinda happy blizz did not overnerf us. I was scared of the typical kneejerk reaction.
just that brew has so many buttons its like playing piano
hello, does anyone have a good omnicd profile of what they track when running m+?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wJIMdqsiHNw when blizzard nerfs pwar
kinda. BDKs were left alone S4 SL, thne again, that season was kind of an experimental season
installing it for the fist time and I can tell that based on the fact that storm bolt isn't tracked, there's probably things in other classes I might want to know about (ez example would be ring of peace for monks)
the BDK i knew, he came back to last 2 weeks of SL and tried to do KSM in 2 weeks
he got to like 1980
and then he couldn't do it because of one of the karazhans
i love how this huge narrative of monk buffs made it good has started even tho it was already really strong before the buffs
lower karawas cancer
Been saying this for all of df
Ppl just dont like putting in the work

will be the same with pala
when ppl start gearing them
literally been saying this all expansion
You could not pay me to play a BrM, purely personal opinion but I dislike the concept, the fantasy, and the playstyle. It's the one tank I could never embrace.
we run with 2 paladins, a ret and a holy, but the holy quit
now hpal is an everything but healer mostly
DH and druid evoker
brm with nf is chefs kiss
i fuckin hated the NF warrior one though, still think the way the warrior NF ability worked was confusing garbage
Brm or Pala Will end up strong, then comes brackenhide and people will only want that bursty aoe
Are tanks supposed to take the staff on broodkeeper to do the eggs?
I do not!
i have just the character in mind, he's a 60 brew atm rn
anyone have an ignore pain value weakaura that is in the form of a progress bar?
high quality transmog you got there
save lots of money cuz its hide everything and then mog hat and weapon (weapon not finalized) its like, 5 slots to pay for mog, so win win
oh, and to be perfect, have to farm out some BS low drop rate hat, is supposed to be a green hat purple feather, have to go wod i think
as in "remaining duration" or "remaining absorb"?
so, game ruined by arbiratary old world farms like how i have to do ampitheatre 7 days to get white branch back piece
I liked brew alot in s4. Idk if I'd reroll any class can get ksh. Warrior still overall way more fun
BrM just feels like playing a piano with the amount of buttons. I like brew, but damn.
you should, dps losing uptime to do mechs is dumb and the laser does no dmg to us.
Honestly, as long as prot isn't as weird as it was in SL, I'll probably still main tank with it.
In SBG should I just kite the skeles in SBG on higher keys or should i run the spell block or what can I do against that mega tank hit? On the first pack I can just survive both of the hits, but on the pack b4 first boss they just nuke me to oblivion
remaaining abosrb
Sl prot felt legit unfinished.
Nah, just it's leggo was overcomplicated vs other tanks where you press this and dmg goes brrr
On that pack where there are 3 of those , u can CC them, use bolt one one, if u have to then shock on another. On tyra weeks SR on a other is enough , the just slowly backpedal them . Or simply pop SW if u have to, u probably wont need it for another X mins in that dungeon anyway
Literally backstep
First pack and third pack
oh, i must filter that shit out cuz it seems easy to me
So pull them and then just backpedal X)?
I have one if you havent found one yet
When they do the frontal you backpedal and they miss, if you feel unsure spell reflect is enough
what trinkets are you guys running in M+? whetstone and what?
spellblock + demo chain to reflect chain to an external/wall, once spellblock is down you just kite, dont try to hit them while kitting coz if you are just in range but not close enough, will cast the ability to their closest target
Rly? I feel like i've tried that, I do that in hov and no and probably other places, I must've just been slow then
alltotem heroic because blizzard blessed me
Yep, I've been slow as well there, people won't judge you if you backpedal since you are moving already to the next pack or the boss
Kk ty for the help ^^
How do you track when to spell reflect on first boss in sbg
Kk ty
Track her dagger buff, if you see she's gonna cast AOE don't spell reflect but after
Same if she's going to summon add
So always just reflect after coming back into melee after a dagger drop or add spawn ?
Is prot war still getting the 10% dr during avatar in 10.5?
What about eclipse ?
Healers mechanic
Watch her buff, make sure she's not going to do anything for the next 2-3s and spell reflect, usually works like she buffs does a cast after cast spell reflect
Kk ty
I'm not sure that we even get that currently
thats with immovable object talent
not baseline
Why is barbaric training considered bad?
cool, new world quests
wastes your rage
so the feedback loop isnt as affective
So is that effect hidden or what?
no its a change to the talent
still 1/4 set bonus
Ohhh so its a change that is upcoming? Ok I misunderstood.. interesting
so, i should change that
no
its a datamine error thats existed since BETA
its not mentioned anywhere in the patchnotes or anywhere else in the game, its only mentioned on the datamine part of wowhead, nowhere else
probably a leftover from shadowlands tierset or something
cuz I do remember us having that effect iirc
some jumbled up š code
yes
Do we get the 10%DR on Avatar when talented into Immovable Object with 10.0.5?
No, this was never stated anywhere besides the datamines from wowhead, no mention ingame or by the official patchnotes.
This line of data has existed since beta and was mentioned numerous times and never implemented and probably never will.
I love your endless optimism that your pins will get read by people who want to know the answer
we try
Anyone have a WA or add on that warns people not to interrupt something when you pop up Spell reflect?
is frostfire belt good?
Don't want anything that will spam with multiple button taps.
Its just for us to use check pins emoji when they ask something š
its aight, bis when you have the fire rings
what is fire ring
there are 2 fire rings from raid, meaning, they have special effects that proc when you deal fire dmg
the only way for us to semi-consistently proc fire dmg is with the frostfire belt
Itās about having it there for the reasonable people
You canāt have only* Ws

hello q any one know it is possible to copy talent build via wowlogs ranking ?
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Flamecaps
they still work?
i think i gave that one a try! didnt work

oh shit i see its yours! ill send a screenshot of what it shows ofr me
thank you!! i must have tried a similar looking one that didnt work. this one works, thanks so much! š
Stupid fotm rerillers getting us nerfed
"we made the fun spec not garbage for once, so we have to fix that since people play fun things"

you didnt like reprisal? š„²
I love prot even at it's worst in 8.0
Yknow what I miss, Vengeance 
It's these fotmbois that getting us wrecked
Solo 25m garrosh #1 DPS
Was PWar garbage in BfA 8.1+?
Was PWar garbage in SL S3&S4?
Hell it was taken to WF CN. Couldn't have been that garbage at any point in SL really.
I remember our Guardian Druid swapping to P Warr at the end of CN and safe to say it did not go well as they had no idea how to play it š¤£
because the dps specs were worse and rally+shout is really good
So worse that they brought warrior DPS as well?
Nice try
And abusing leap
Anyway my point is I hope all the fotm go back to vdh/bdk now
So I don't have to hear about how bad warriors are when my buddy has to heal some BRM main that can't press buttons
ppl dont have an idea of how to play it now
Yeah I'm in a casual guild with two teams, start of DF there was 4 prot warriors shooting for main team, the difference between the 4 was hilarious
The nerf is kinda chill tho
delete this
nah we ded
What if I told you, there was shitty warrior players even before PWar became meta again.
Literally easiest to play it's ever been
Oh tru- time to delete Slimepp
yes
and ppl still have 50% blocked hits
The off GCD + rage management is too hard for prot pally mains
The guy wityh the logs yesterday who had 7 casts of Shield Block in an AA+18
Oh tru wtf
And somehow still timed it, because his healer was a god
Oh trust me I know I've been here for a long time it's shocking now because the spec basically plays itself as long as you're pressing buttons
Hmm
doing an unbelievably stupid "tier list - tanks when not pressing any buttons"
Bear wins
āConvokeā
bear only has like 3 buttons
if we're being literal, a bear that never presses any buttons never enters bear form
Warrior has 1.5 ironfurs worth of ironfur baseline
Without pressing a single button
I remember when the Fury Warrior in my guild decided to try tanking, and I had to point out to him that you couldn't Block attacks that came from behind you
Need the shield from tf2
Okay?
I'm sure there's silly simple things you don't know about other specs as well.
The Chargin' Targe? That's what the Battering Ram talent is, isn't it?
The sniper one that could soak a spy backstab
Oh! I never played Sniper. Or Spy. I was a Demoman main
Usual suspects stirring up drama again I see
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Says fatmonk
@ionic fern hi ily
I mean warriors are so good that @potent anvil is actually playing one
needs more nerfs clearly
393 ilvl now 
so were dead with the changes
yeah man, hyperdeadge spec š¢
This may sound like a dumb question but I am new to Warrior tanking. Are you suppose to use slam or whirlwind at all in M+ content?
no
because of this ? Brutal Vitality now causes 10% of the damage you deal to add to your Ignore Pain (was 15%).
@lusty grotto hey check this dude's name out; reminds me of someone
We're memeing dude. Prot war is fine
Thanks for the info
i know some of these words
We're joking
yeah, uninstall wow
dissassemble computer, throw it in the trash and light it on fire
its all over gaming is dead
You do not use Slam or Whirlwind in any content
possibly cobalt farm if you get a power for it, even then
There's no power for specific abilities weirdo
Cobalt farming isn't content, it's a chore
That's why you level a toon through Cobalt then you don't have to do it after
Easy
is there a reason to hit final rank
Never in any content
Xmog I think
Took 4 hours to cap wat
I'm sure it's been discussed here before - but I don't see any pins... getting 4 set, I just got my last piece last night, but the item level brings my overall item level down by 1. Is the benefit on the prot warrior 4 set better to have / achieve?
Like cobalt was stupidly easy as prot
That's fine
It's a good bonus
is any stable variant for hyrja trick with swaping storm and light phase?
Do you know if anyone has run any data on the 4 set bonus to show how much it adds?
Especially since they just nerfed brutal, which I mean hasn't worked all expansion
It adds free ip
Like ~ 5% leech, worth some ilvl
I'd drop a little ilvl for it in content that's constantly threatening me
Did anyone else laugh at the nerf to brutal?
Like slashing the tires on a car with no engine
"there now you won't go anywhere"
Eh, 7% more dmg. 7x0=0
Mmhmm
did it from 68-70 was easy peasy
take all the max health you can get and fire shoes and you are crusing
Precisely my point; it's in no way challenging, or interesting, or difficult. It's just... 4 hours of killing irrelevant shit and GG you're outta there
"warriors are near invincible vs blockable damage, let's make everything blockable, then nerf warriors are over represented"
i thought my cobalt farm was funny. i got to pull enormous while also being a tiny little guy
do u use defensive stance as prot in m+
start in bstance and use dstance as a defensive cd when you need it
e.g. hyrja, switch to dstance for her knockback tankbuster, then switch back
dont rly like that playstyle
At what key level do I truly āneedā tier set
at whatever level pugs start being big babies about it
Sounds like 22 then lol
it's a ~3-5% power increase, it's not make or break
So probably like 1 key level below the highest thatās been done then
yeah, the scaling between each key level is pretty wild
but anyway, catalyst is almost out
so it won't matter for long
For 1 piece⦠I have 0
either you've barely played or that's shockingly unlucky
they drastically upped the chances of seeing tier in vault from last expac
guessing you don't raid?
On average pugging like half the raid each week
whoever told me the stam hp you get from being tauren only calculated base hp lied š¦ I lost like 12k hp from swapping from tauren and now im sad
12k of 450k still isn't insane
oh no
now im gonna get 1shotted by everything
fopr M+ sim we sim without flask cuase phial of the eye of the storm is not implementet?
wat u switch to
i use glacial fury
zandalari
Oh cool
Is Ruby Whelp Shell any good for Prot warrios in M+?
It's listed under the gear table, but in the tier list of trinkets its down in the B tier.
but swapping to it i kinda hate the goofy run they have XD
dont worry u can regenerate now thats more powerful than 12k hp
message blizz immediately they can revert race change if it hasnt been too long
I did that before and they reverted it
what did you say?
basically said while I enjoy my new race I miss my old race, please revert my race change if possible.
And they did it
but it was within like 1 or 2 hours iirc
mine was a couple hours ago
its very rng
do it
https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/14386
If you are unhappy with the race or name you chose for your character these cannot be changed in-game, but Customer Support may be able to help if contacted immediately after using the service. Please note that assistance is not guaranteed.
I'll just hope my COS gives me a neat Whetstone then š
not gonna lie 12k hp for being Tauren seems pretty good O_O makes me want to change to them
Yeah it'll save you in all those instances where you dropped to sub-12k HP
i shit u not i died from like a 60 damage overkill one time
now that we know how it works it's gone from "seems really random and bad" to "it's pretty ok"
@toxic pewter that sounds like normal troll regen tho, zand regen gets interrupted on dmg
yah I am normal Troll, my favorite race and their racials actually really good imo.
why aren't we talking about the gnome master race?
berserking lines up well with cooldowns, 500 hp every 2 seconds in combat
i just dont really like normal troll posture for prot warrior
Tauren are taller than trolls
Tauren masterrace- sorry for your loss
na, Troll taller than tauren when standing up straight
trolls are ugly as fuck
I picked Tauren based on looks alone 
Where are mechagnomes on your chart
apparently it does
na not in my book
wrong
tauren look the coolest for prot warrior tank
troll master race
I think mecha are the same height as the regular ones
tauren gotta look up at a troll face LOL
so they didn't put them in there
This is correct
I need every chart to include mechagnomes though
Mechagnomes get a bad rap, but I like them
Their racials are better
apparently their in combat stat racial wasnt updated for lvl 70 so like the value is the same at 60 as it is at 70
some guy on reddit was complaining
abit gay?
i don't even really know exactly how the summons works
but it sure looks impressive when you do it
big lightning flash and 3 clones appear, start following attacking shit, its cool
Trolls apparently slouch as a sign of respect to the people they're interacting with (so they aren't towering over them)
So they likely won't give trolls that option
this transmog is sick. slay king
maybe he is gay. the rest of the party is thirsting for him though regardless
yeah I love me some dwarf man nips
I want that shield so bad
Damn now I wanna race change from maghar to based dwarf
Really wish it was easier to get the elite version of this set
The lion shoulders and stuff are so sick
i want a gold hammer weapon 1 hand more fitting of a paladin of the light completely gold
Never played BFA and now I need to convince 10 people to queue for old content just for a chance at a slot, v sucks
i don't like it moving around but its blue matches the blue ribbons on armor
can't you solo it?
Been playing all of DF in Defensive Stance. Am I missing out? Running 17-19 keys right now.
yes, extremely yes
if you cant solo (or duo at worst) raids in bfa, uninstall game
missing out on about 14 % dmg yeah
Easily, but you literally require 10 players to actually be allowed to queue the content
I must tower
I'm not sure what you're trying to get into but just walk into the portal?
ahh
rp realms are more into xmog it seems to me, maybe make an alt on one of them and see if more people are interested?
best weapon enchant for m+ and raiding
ever since BFA i've been pretty big into transmog
but, i skipped wod legion, so i missed out on boatloads of raiding and dungeon mogs

Any orc players can tell me how much atk power you get from racial at max level?
is there a max amount of haste for prot before looking at other secondaries?
about ye mucu
Dwarf or dark iron dwarf
40%
Technically 40% would be a falling off point but you should always sim for damage regardless.
ok thanks. Sitting at 35% had one source say 30% just wanted to make sure i wasnt messing up
That's 40% before something like Into the Fray though
can you spell reflect this ?
thanks 40% buffed but pre talents
no
No, use shield block. Need to be dispelled for the magic portion
strongest CC spells for final boss of nokhud? i would need 2 good ones that wont break easily
it does both magic and physical dmg
its spell blockable
All long-term CCs break easily.
i mean like a long form hard CC like sheep or sap, i think if sap works thats the best
You can't sap in combat
Or if the target is in combat
Blind, Sheep, Imprison, Freezing Trap
damn, so, what does work on those adds, sheep i know, hunter trap i know,
rest is ??
monk paralysis
They're humanoid I believe, so just about everything works on them
on an alt, prot warr has 0 interrupts having cleared to granyth in a +15. Is it a meme that interrupting is a healers job too?
doesn't help that now there is 5 targets who can create explosive potentially each
rather than just 1 guy
Did you go to Granyth first?
Tree boss in AA no challenging shout on 2nd round of adds this week how to handle threat?
Because if you went Granyth first, there's only like 4 mobs with an interrupt
shocking disclosure
So maybe he just didn't get the kick; interrupts are only tracked in details if they actually got the interrupt.
maybe if i try nokhud again, i will see about running disrupting or intimidating shout
shocking disclosure or throw down rav on them as they're spawning
Are people still going to prioritize 20+ ilvls on a single piece for the 4 piece bonus after these changes?
ty
An item in the Potions category. Added in World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. Always up to date with the latest patch (10.0.2).
theres another potion too that increase main stat by X for Y seconds, i have a few of those
can i challengeing shout before they sprout out of ground and still get threat
or am i supppose to wait till they pop out of ground to gain threat
now we just need 1 min pot CD and we got prolonged power back :prayge
mhhhmm steamed haste
Are the Legguards of Preparation worth crafting?
oh.. search makes it look they are
I might be a bit slow!
Does the boss tank on broodkeeper ever touch the action button to zap eggs ?
what flask for prot warr?
new targets as in, brand new, never attacked first time
hmm seen those on top m+ guys.. so I'd rather get another embellishemnt then...
you know in doom 1 how there is like an imp and he doesn't see you, and then you shoot your gun so he turns, around, and then he is forever aggroed to you untill death or end the level
same type of stuff going on
I mean, in the end, your embellishments are not going to make or break a damn thing so you can make whatever your lil heart desires.
I'm bad tho, so I like to get the best stuff to hide it. agressively transmogs bulwark
Does 16and above drops primal focus aswell? Or only the higher version?
so its not like, you can keep swapping targets and keep up the buff
Ah yes, the basic bitch bulwark of azzinoth mog that reduces damage taken by 50%
you get me!
that would be awesome if it did work like how i described
I couldn't remember so I asked a friend; you only get the higher one.
Thanks
can u remove am embellishment?
yep
it may be basic bitch mog but it just looks so good
unless it's fixed part of that item
Whatās easier to pug, broodkeeper or dath?
is it true that armor spikes doesn't count as embellishment on shield ?
my droptimizer show's that i should equip one more, using lariat and armor spikes atm
4 more days of adrean weald amphitheatre
Where does the nerf put us? I.e. Will we get more nerfs or are we fine now
No
Only drops concentrated
ohhhhh i just need 3500 anima and i get the matching back mog
Mb didn't see it got answered
Ty ty
Broodkeeper seems more forgiving of lower gear, more about execution, dathea seems like it's more punishingly tuned but will get easier with more gear
ive heard prot 4set isnt that great is that true?
it feels just okay to me
best weapon enchant for m+ and raids?
the higher M+ you go the better sohpic dcev becomes
dev*
and since most dps is boss dps in raids sophic as well
stuck in shadowlands forever
Is it possible to have a focus kick macro that if the focus is not set works like a normal kick?
I enjoy 4set a lot because it creates a new application of IP which is where the real strength of it comes in
#showtooltip
/cast [@focus,exists][]Pummel
I found that one here:
#showtooltip
/cast [@focus, harm, nodead] Pummel
/cast Pummel
can I just add the exists to the arguments?
Like:
/cast [@focus, harm, nodead, exists] Pummel
-> Everyone waiting next week for the 4 piece to get the extra buff from the set. Oh wait prot warrior nerfed so 4 piece makes no diference
such a troll
how are warriors going to be after that nest nerf?
we are gonna start heading into mythic vault, and ive been loooking up the fights and im wondering if some one can give me clarification on teros, the group soak thing, for heroic you soak it with players, but on mythic it specifically states it damages all players, im confused on the wording
@copper basin we still good and solid
pins
This is just a needlessly more complicated version of what I posted
nvm now that i read it again i understand the wording, no matter what it hits the entire raid, reduced by the amount of people in the soak, regardless of if you soak it or not
Decoration of flame (415) and icon (421) is a good combination for m+?
it's okay
any tips for Liu Flameheart below 70% healing absorb?
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Serpent strike is a non-factor. Jade Serpent Strike is not reflectable
but SR still gives you 20% magic DR
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theres not an easy addon/weakaura for reflectable spells is there?
im aware of the google doc
there's a weakaura
Original WA: https://wago.io/IkerOKywU Tells you when to reflect in Dragonflight dungeons and raids. Triggers only when
?
yup
it isn't perfect tho i found
will often tell you to reflect when it isn't actually casted at you
so i do still keep and eye on cast targets that is shown with plater
Probably just looks to see if a reflectable spell is being cast
But doesnt do target tracking
thats totally ifne
honestly i just wnated a way to know whats reflectable aside from rote memorization of the document
i mean it should if it's grabbing the unfiltered combat log events it will see DestGUID and DestName
Iām not saying it canāt be done, Iām just saying the WA probably doesnt implement it
yeah u are correct just took a peek and it only checks caster target
blizzard cant handle prot being strong must nerf
Pretty sure this one is more up to date than the previously linked one:
does that one have fake reflect callouts like the other ones
looked at the comments and appearently it does
How bad do we feel the nerfs are
Not bad
Not even close to doomer mode. Monks, DKs, and paladins all really solid rn too.
huge reroll
Would you recommend reroll to shaman for tanking with these nerfs?
Just to remain meta
I would recommend hunter, pets tank better than prot warrior tbh
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To check Ignore Pain uptime, we goto Details!, then click on Buff Uptime, right?
Any idea what the nerf to spell block is with the block nerfs?
i would say 6%
as its the same calulations for magic damage expect for crit blocking
BOLD CLAIM SIR
One could say, block claim
One could, but one shouldn't
and i dont think anyone has actually looked into the spell block stuff
either way more less
in the end
it wont matter
Well yeah but for magic damage itās not 6%x0 like for physical
what gems are you guys using for lariat?
Any zaldarali tanks out there is the Crit loa the best one for tank?
haste crit and main stat crit
if i was i would be in cirt loa
like i was in BFA
I went belf but Iām very close to going back zandi. The one true race.
Gonk is bis cuz name is funny
exactly
Gonk
Why swap

Quick question: 3 trinkets - 392 Horn of Valor, 389 Decoration of flame, 382 All-totem of the master. What combo of the three should I choose for M+? My intuition tells me decoration + totem, but i'm just not sure
Cro spending more on race changes in the last week than I've spent in the past 6 years
i got a free race change today
i was gonk on all 13 chars i think i respected him enough
telling blizz i regretted going zandi
my brain cant comprehend this. Can i get a screenshot? This is what I have now https://i.imgur.com/lxFd3ic.png
All-totem + deco imo
how u get free
so they gave me a race change
Touche, touche
Your intuition is correct.
ohhhh hell yeah I am glad it worked out for you
instead turning me tauren they gave me a race change while leaving me zandi
so im gonna try zandi for a little
then maybe swap
Zandi looks best
thank you Nomeratur, Arty
dude thats even better treatment than I got lol
but it sounds like its a one off so
Taurens and their helmet suck
Imho, you should go Vulpera
Wtf
Such a fantastic race
i mean
their racials look super good
but they so small
i like looking at my tr ansmogs
but so smol
vulp is best horde race for keys tbh
They actually look good in this seasons tier imo
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im not to worried about keys tbh, i just fill my vault up with +20's or higher for gear thne stop, i dont push io anymore since its just me and a buddy pugging
fuck that
So are the nerfs going to up the value of Vers in M+?
Still Haste > Crit or Haste > Vers for M+ and Haste > Vers for Raid?
I don't affect your talents, it doesn't affect your gear, it doesn't affect whatever is possible
gotcha. Thanks
We won't be able to do the level of keys where vers will be needed after these nerfs, sorry.
for our lariot/gem slots should we be going hate/crit~ or should we do what will give us the highest dps simmed?
cause without trinket my signet is higher dps than fire ring
398 sig 408 fire ring
I'm just asking because I was about to recraft some nice pieces. Guess I'll just stick with Haste > Crit since I mostly do M+
What trinket
blazing hoof
That's a once every 2 minutes proc
i personally stack full mastery 
It doesn't do shit for the fire ring lol
sounds sussy
then these are weird sims
Frost fire belt if you have rings is bis
You've not given any info besides "does it work"
i have 1 ring,
THE one ring
Belt is 400-600 dps
Fire ring proc is 600-900 dps with the belt
to rule them all
im doing iron man numbers
but ring is less damage than melandrus unles i swap trink
Hmm
In what scenario
wHey guys what piece would you craft with my last spark?
āDungeon sliceā
I need more info than that my guy
easy way to make sure itās working is to sim again using an identical crafted belt that isnāt frostfire
Boots, belt or ring
i did partchwerk, and then 5 target hectic add cleave no buffs
Boots over wrists?
I'm just going by ilvl here
might as well do belt on the off chance you get fire ring
Oh. Didnāt realize he linked his guy
and wipe off fangs
im up to 413 ilvl now at least
jsut trying to decide what trinkets I want to use
why does blazebinder need to be 2 min cd
boon+whetstone/all totem
would you drop fang off weapon and get frostfire belt?
I don't know if I will raid much on thsi guy to get rings
Then it's not a big deal
The rings are nice to haves
But when it comes to embellishments all will do
simply hit eranog ring off the dungeon event chest early, that was my strat
guys, quick Q: is it worth getting the 4p by sacrificing 2ilvls??
2 ilvls? hell yeah it is worth it
410 with 4p
412 without
its M+, yhea
only in content that threatens you consistently tbh
yeah prob worth then
awesome, cheers, tyty!
but catalyst in a few days anyway, solving all your problems
soon ā¢ļø actually happening !
Bros how do I tank heroic primal council l?
Same as normal basically
u press your buttons
I never did normal
well if u struggle that much u are supposed to swap olifang and ember whatever every mechanic
Swap fire guy and earth guy with Cotank after every earth guy tankbuster
wtf autocorrect
Don't even need to swap fire guy
I never did any of this raid just mythic plus but I want a 2 H lol
Literally, just swap earth guy after each mechanic from him
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u got it just be sure clear frost debuff in the fire
if your raid fucks up the ground too much move to empty space but donāt go a billion miles from pillars
Ye clear frost debuff at 6 stacks
By going into fire
Doesn't have to be exactly 6
Just make sure to not get 10
Ty for quick run down
What buff in AA?
Eh, you can just go practice it on M0. It's not that hard to get down
Just make sure you don't have armor spikes equipped or you'll probably 1-shot her 
It's also not really required to do. It's just a bonus if you do it
What do you mean Desync?
She casts the ultimates on the wrong sides, so she has the wrong buff.
i tried some 21s and healers cant cope with the storm
Is that helpful?
It means they do less damage
Oooh!
She gets buff stacks the longer she's on one side that make the ultimates do more damage
Whats the best addon/WA to mark targets in M+... Prefferably an auto marker if possible
You can just google auto marker WA if that's what you're after
couple iv tried don't seem to do anything in the dungeons so i assumed they were outdated
You have to hover over the mobs to mark them. It won't actually just mark things
There are ones that auto mark mobs
What is the recommended train for ruby whelp shell for M+?
tell me... are we fucked tuesday?
Yeah lets all swap to brewmaster
Already leveling my alt tank. Prot is a glass cannon at best now

Did you time?
Is it really that bad lol?
yes prot is dead reroll brm
i see a lot of ppl running 2 set over 4 set cuz of higher item level pieces
is 4set not important enough?
What was his/her/their io?
We are rolling brewmaster they are gonna b op
Nice
How do you check IP uptime?
click on the player on details then go to auras iirc
On details I click on "Buff Uptime" is that it?
that works also
Ok, I just wanted to make sure, says 92% for HOV.
Want to make sure it's an accurate reading.
IP uptime isnāt a metric worth tracking
It depends
I guess if itās close to 100% thatās a sign to go do harder content
You want it as high as you can reasonably achieve
There are fights where you canāt keep it up even when you press it every time you can
Itās just so content and context dependent that thereās no benchmark to shoot for or anything
And it doesnāt really change your rage spending prios regardless
I personally keep tracking of it to make sure it's up, before I was 30% uptime. I get better over time.
Ok in that sense yea you need to track it with a wa or something lol
āAm I overcapping rageā is the real metric
Honestly canāt wait for streamers and pros to play bds so I can reroll
Prot hurts my finger
i got 372 ancestral protectors stone. i read that hads up time 30% did anyone tried it?
Why canāt you reroll now
Itās not fun when I canāt get into groups
Thatās the optimal way playing this game rn tho
it really isn't
I donāt know how yāall put up with the mid-key meta, itās insane
you aren't some top 0.1% player
what level is your brewmaster everyone?
play what your good at and what you enjoy
I am tho lol
āI NEED meta specsā says dps player putting up 15k
yeah but your not
Ok let me check
hey guys, is it worth getting armor spikes on shield compared to the well fed buff thing?
"i had no CDs!" - every hunter that dies in every key

Armor spikes is a little worse than other embellishments since it needs tanking uptime
No
Itās the same 1% as everything else in m+ basically but worse in raid
Honestly wish vanguard lasted a little longer sometimes lol
@mighty valley ok, thank you
like brewmasters lasts like 15 sec iirc
Yo actually you right Iām like 0.3%
you should have like 85% or more uptime on it just playing a regular rotation.
Where does execute fit into our rotation these days in regards to vanguard
I need to do my AA still lol
Youāre never gonna be a real pusher until you charge your phone
You execute where you would normally execute
Hey, is the frostfire belt worth a craft even if I dont have any raid rings to proc?
yah but what if vanguard about to drop off do i execute or revenge
All my friends are raid proging rn so I can only pug
It's about the same as the other embellishments
this is cope
add players after good keys
make your own group
I just want you to charge your phone man
Itās about to die
because your friends are raid progging
And where do you think I know them from
so will prot be viable for lower keys still?
0.3% IO but room temp IQ smh
Pugging
weāre all dooming as a joke prot is going to be fine
You donāt go to Craigslist to find people to push with
you literally wont notice these nerfs outside of very specific encounters.
i use gumtree instead humble
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I have someone in my friend list noted as the moan sfx wa guy
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