protection

[sick sentinel]

to make up later

[warm plinth]

You just pull a bunch in the first area, a couple extra packs in the twins area, and the 2 minibosses at the end

[wheat zenith]

Thanks, so I guess I wont pick that hoof(have to farm whet)

[sick sentinel]

its not terrible, its one of the better options infact

...........

that doesn't change that how it works is total jank......

[onyx pike]

u guys think the hoof trinket is worht it on 421?

got a shitty vault today.

I'd be running hoof/ruby then

or take shoulders (off pcs) to turn it into set

[sick sentinel]

like, if i had to make trinket tier list, i would place it as an A and no more

it has haste, and it does damage, fire damage even too i think if you have rings, what more could you want!

its no S, dmg value is too low and takes too long to get started

[daring marlin]

Hoof owns

Definitely top 3 trinket idk what you're saying

[warm plinth]

which hoof trinket

[sick sentinel]

im never placing that before whetstone, ruby, alltotem, boss 1 flame wreath thing, grief and others

[crimson furnace]

I got the ruby whelp today at 421, was the best option out of a total of 6 -- have it maxxed at 6 with the ST damage and at the end of the dungeon I had ST dmg and Lobbing fire Nova as well, for a total of 6M dmg, almost as much as my 405 windscar (the 473 strenght is welcomed as well)

[warm plinth]

blazebinder?

[daring marlin]

Yeah

[inland raft]

usually only tank m+ and dont raid, on broodkeeper is there a certain time adds spawn and location or just random?

[buoyant narwhal]

That fire proc absorb ring is poo compared to the fire proc damage ring i imagine? Thinking about taking the gloves as current gloves are 398, ring Sims better but thats because i got a bad ring but feels weird to take the absorb over potentially getting the fire damage one eventually

[sick sentinel]

those trinkets i listed + a few i forgor are literal S and S +++ trinkets

[glacial ivy]

Hello everyone, does anyone know if our blizzard in game io is also transfered if we transfer our charachter to diffrent realm?

[daring marlin]

Blazebinder hoof is S+++

[craggy pilot]

whats with that lightning cursor 🤣

[warm plinth]

It is, yes

[craggy pilot]

do people actually play with that?

[warm plinth]

Yes they do

[strong forum]

Can you share the log

[warm plinth]

I tried it and was annoyed with it in 5 seconds

[buoyant narwhal]

😂 I seen Quazii using it so just testing it lmao

[craggy pilot]

yea im annoyed with it before i even tried it

[buoyant narwhal]

actually helps a little in big pulls tho

[strong forum]

So I can add it to our database

[warm plinth]

I just use the circle cursor WA

[daring marlin]

I just use circle

[sick sentinel]

noooo blazbinder 420 haste trinket is S+++++++ only for the meme factor

[craggy pilot]

i have static circle for when im in combat

[daring marlin]

What are you even saying

[craggy pilot]

https://wago.io/H1ZiNu_Yf/

[sick sentinel]

its strong, but no god dman way i put it as S trinket

[warm plinth]

Did I just read an ebay review

[daring marlin]

It's haste, strength and damage

Shit is amazing

[warm plinth]

Guys I got two alchemical flavor pockets without realizing it 😮

[sick sentinel]

anyone have a nice shield block weakaura

[craggy pilot]

lol

give one 😄

[warm plinth]

Now I just have to decide if I want to sell or use

[craggy pilot]

i just have a line showing the duration 🤔

[warm plinth]

are you on Tichondrius NA?

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxTMzMApaeg

[craggy pilot]

im EU :<

[sick sentinel]

i'll stop

[warm plinth]

RIP

[crimson furnace]

im going to do another 21 soon and will share it, in the meantime I was randomly hitting the AOE dummies to proc the ruby again, managed this:

[sick sentinel]

hope your hungry

[warm plinth]

Last I heard, it wasn't working properly on dummies anyway

[crimson furnace]

i'll save my next run!

[atomic root]

Hi guys, i need bit of help with my vault, i can choose between ruby whelp shell 415 or boots 415, i currently have 395 boots and my trinkets are 395 Blazebinder and 398 Seed, what do u think is a better pick?

[warm plinth]

Garfield is my spirit animal. I had a dog as a kid named Pookie after his teddy bear

[craggy pilot]

how much did it proc in your dungeons? how many times?

[lone eagle]

Wondering if its worth swapping to Sudden Death in high tyran keys

[teal crown]

Hey, I know this may sound pretty noobish, but what do you guys do about explosives in meelee?

[craggy pilot]

i had it proc 18 times in Enha shaman, for something like 2mil dmg at 408

over 40 minutes

[warm plinth]

That's...kinda tough? Seed is pretty meh but whelp shell isn't very good until you train it

[lone eagle]

Feels like bosses live forever on 22-23s

[craggy pilot]

Heroic Throw, or let healer handle it

[lone eagle]

And my ST dps feels like poopy at that key level

[buoyant narwhal]

Absorb ring from Brood or 411 tier gloves? (gloves would give me 3p). Ilvl upgrade is roughly the same over both current slots

[crimson furnace]

ring!

[teal crown]

Thanks, that's what I've been using, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything better.

[craggy pilot]

pick the Whelp if you wanna try out the training thing, otherwise go Boots

[lone eagle]

Ring harder to get but 405 also not particularly exciting

[warm plinth]

I wonder if VDH can actually 1-shot explosives with throw glaive this season 😂

[teal crown]

haha

[sick sentinel]

why not 411 hands

that seems good to me

[atomic root]

Yeah, that's why im asking ur opinion here, bc tbh i don't know what to pick, i read a little about the whelp but im not sure if it's an actual upgrade

[teal crown]

Healers are having a tough time this season as well.

dps need to get their act together.

[warm plinth]

well, once trained it would be better than the seed for sure

[uneven mason]

Can't even 1 shot their demon who is supposed to die in 1 hit

[warm plinth]

LOL IKR

[crimson furnace]

u can get 415 with valor and tun in into set pice, gettng the ring is waaaay harder

[craggy pilot]

i would go hands, dont know how good the Shield is 🤔 do you even have Frostfire belt?

[warm plinth]

Tooltip be like "throw glaive does lethal damage to the demon".

VDH like

https://tenor.com/7HU3.gif

[atomic root]

thank you

[uneven mason]

It's legit sad

[teal crown]

I've not had it fail to kill the demon, but I'm not 70 on it yet, just tanking normals for level.

[atomic root]

but do you think it's a better upgrade than the boots?

[sick sentinel]

i like invitiing the odd demon hunter to party

[warm plinth]

Probably

[sick sentinel]

DH sometimes is really solid melee dps pick

[warm plinth]

Lot of bad ones out there sadly

[sick sentinel]

its for when u want the dps a rogue has and nothing else

[warm plinth]

Or just ones with terrible situational awareness that pull everything

[high drum]

MOMENTUM

[warm plinth]

Momentum go brr

[high drum]

what a mistake

[warm plinth]

I hate momentum, I hope it burns in hell

[buoyant narwhal]

i dont have the belt yet but i could make it

[sick sentinel]

i mean, all DH has to do for me is stay alive and hit eye beam or whatever they do

[warm plinth]

I won't play havoc again until they remove fel rush from the rotation

It's fuckin dumb

[sick sentinel]

DH last i played it was late SL tank mode

no fuckin idea if it was before or after DF talents

they are fun is what im saying

[warm plinth]

yogi

you playing intimidating shout yet

[sick sentinel]

after NOT GUD 12 final boss adds phase

i broke the CC and interrupted, because, i figured, this must be the correct way, we kill the adds and EZ

i may reconsider int'ing shout

[crimson furnace]

new update to the WA, jsut noticed that it has the 3 targets as well there

[odd tree]

depends, sold one the other day for 100k on A52

na

[warm plinth]

yeah, just deciding if I care about the gold or if I just wanna use 1 for rogue and 1 for war

[fallen pulsar]

Is there any prot warrior specific tips to make the add phase of nokhud last boss smoother? Feels like my healer always gets sniped by the casters or I run out interrupts and then they cast down the healer anyhow. Obviously interrupting more as a group/long CC like poly would help, but say I’m pugging and can’t trust the hunter to understand how to count let alone to frost trap an add.

[sick sentinel]

its the problem that hitting intimidating 100 times, 97 times it goes right and they don't run away

its the 3 times they do manage to, and do some BS

and i'd just rather not have the gamble entirely

[warm plinth]

Unfortunately you're kind of at the mercy of your group. We generally CC a couple of them if we think we'll have trouble but if you don't think the group has enough brain cells then not much you can do

[fallen pulsar]

Rip

[warm plinth]

Play BDK and use grippy arms :kekw

[fallen pulsar]

[tacit gorge]

should i sim or what would u do?

[sick sentinel]

i just figure, how is it, between 5 players, not 1 is going to have a secondary non stun CC cd

or, better yet, interupts and shit

[fallen pulsar]

I mean, pugs are a hilarious bunch even on 18s

[sick sentinel]

and then so im prioritizing intimidating shout extremely lowly based on that i could possibly invite

[fallen pulsar]

The evoker healer as an example complained about lack of interrupts but never used their interrupt

[daring marlin]

You can spec for aoe taunt+interrupt for two on one side, have someone cc far one and kick the other. Usually how I gather them.

[fallen pulsar]

Yeah, I’m considering that as well for nokhud, but dunno what talent to drop, I guess show of force/the execute choice node

[daring marlin]

AoE kick is a godsend. I use it often.

[sick sentinel]

get a DK with grabby arms

[warm plinth]

Your mom's a DK with grabby arms

gottem

You guys wanna know what's weird

I can't hear out of one of my ears rn

It's bizarre

I have an ear infection btw; I didn't go deaf. But I wanted to share this random tidbit

[sullen flame]

It's a good dungeon for slappy hands, interrupting shout, and wailing arrow. Don't run that place with 2+ ranged interrupts and it will go smoothly.

Hunters can also pre-trap the very far add and kick in the other one pretty easily. Just removing one add helps immensely.

[uneven mason]

Wtb a talent that lets us grab 1 npc by the leg and smash them into their friends as an interrupt

[brave jungle]

What would you choose? Finger is with Leech btw

[warm plinth]

Class fucking fantasy right there

[sick sentinel]

its about if you are in a group of Norman the normies x 5 x you are all pugs, everyone has to CONNECT WITH A SEPLL LOCK OUT THINGY

and then get in position that the mob will run to tank, and group

[fallen pulsar]

Too cool, not allowed

[sick sentinel]

and then you can simulate DK grabby hands budget edition

[warm plinth]

Remember when we had a mass grip

[icy bane]

Should be like garrosh from HOTS where you can pick someone up and just check them at someone

[warm plinth]

and then before it even went live, we didn't anymore

[sick sentinel]

heroic shield charge leap

new ability

[warm plinth]

Okay but like, run your fingers across your ear

you can hear your finger scraping across it

And I can't on one of my ears rn

It's wild

I know this is very prot war related

[indigo gulch]

just to check what u all using? intimidating shout or storm bolt

[warm plinth]

Both

[icy bane]

Both

[unkempt imp]

Allied wrists vs lariat go!

[sick sentinel]

thats called a go to the fuckin doctor m8 lol

[icy bane]

Both 1% damage

[sturdy sable]

Sim yo self

[warm plinth]

I did already. I got antibiotics

[icy bane]

Whatever your worst slot is

[sick sentinel]

GL friend

[warm plinth]

Thanks

[uneven mason]

I remember the version that made it to beta had already been neutered to be useless, oh a randomly targetting leap that only grabs mobs I'm in melee range of...... Yea so, if I'm in melee range, why do I need to grip?

[warm plinth]

Yeah 😦

[sullen flame]

Lariat and brez wrists

[unkempt imp]

Let's say they = damage would wrists be better defensively due to vers consistently?

[sick sentinel]

is brez only on wrist?

[icy bane]

Yes

[sick sentinel]

am 20000% engineer

[sullen flame]

For non-engineers yes. Engineers can also put it on helm.

[icy bane]

Bracer got no haste tho

[sick sentinel]

rip, i did versa bracers, and i only have 1 more spark till next week

[warm plinth]

rekt

[sick sentinel]

also just did 405 food belt,

[warm plinth]

worth it

[unkempt imp]

Is there no brez item for engi? Has to he the slotted thing?

[lofty widget]

has to be the tinker yes

[sick sentinel]

i don't know what other item i want, but rings is looking good possibly, just something with a dps embellishment and haste

[warm plinth]

People should be happy

They finally gave us tinkers 😏

[sick sentinel]

wrong, tinker creates a garage that makes like, 20 adds

has goblin rockets and bunch of other stuff, i remember it all from wc3

[indigo gulch]

if have to choose between intimidating shout and storm bolt? which will be better

[fallen pulsar]

I honestly dunno what to make with 4th spark lol, don’t need another embellished item, I guess I’ll just farm out 10 more of the mythic essence and look at what my lowest ilvl slot is

[blazing condor]

storm bolt probably

[sick sentinel]

chaotic netural shout, lawful good, bolt

[blazing condor]

for the focus cc

[formal grail]

415 horn, 389 rumbling and 402 decoration... not sure what trinkets to use (m+ only, have diurna dmg rign and frostfire belt)

[slow shale]

Depends on the dungeon you are running, and what affixes are running..

[indigo gulch]

okay thanks.

[sick sentinel]

i cant recall why i stopped pursuing the boots with the dmg embellishment, probably poor secondary stats

[viral shell]

Not sure how good the set bonus is (pretty good I see) but is the upgrade worth more? Can also get tier set leggos. ( +4 ilvl, better stats)

[blazing condor]

not worth to lose 2 set

catalyst will be out soon(tm) though

[icy bane]

Ye id just take them to catalyst next week

[warm plinth]

Fun fact you can add the tm icon by just typing :tm: Soon™️

[sick sentinel]

but, thats what i want mostly, is 2 sets, a set that is haste + versa and set that is haste + crit, and i wouldn't give a shit about mastery too much

[blazing condor]

"tm" these nuts™️

[sick sentinel]

dragon deez nuts, how soon we forget

[gusty crane]

Is anyone knowledgable about embellishments

[icy bane]

If you have raid rings, frostfire belt

If not, all embellishments are around 1% damage so it’s preference

[gusty crane]

I already have that one, but at 405

and in the vault I got a 421

[dire matrix]

you can do the alt code too

[gusty crane]

so Im looking to replace it until I can upgrade later

[frozen silo]

we prioritize shield over main hand for survivability right? in terms of spark use

[icy bane]

Ye

[frozen silo]

tyty

[brave jungle]

Guys what would you choose?
Finger is with leech 😇

[gusty crane]

So I have the elemental lariat already, and was thinking of getting the armor spikes, but I realized I dont have armor crafted to put it on, only a 1H wep and a ring...... :<

So now I have to either get some other embelishment or just wait for another spark I guess

[sick sentinel]

is neck a hard spot to get a good haste neck

is thats also big reason so many lariat

[unreal sage]

Do you think fire absorb ring is ok? Have Best sim on it So im going to take it anyway but im curious if that absorb is big deal?

[sick sentinel]

it sucks to farm one out so ppl just say screw it

[warm plinth]

You can also do uh :registered: and :copyright: I think it is for ®️ and ©️

[blazing condor]

thats cool

ty ghash

[warm plinth]

Now the dog does know

[blazing condor]

at least a little bit

[formal grail]

i suppose if you want another crafted piece, a shield could be big right?

[sick sentinel]

somebody in this discord server taught me win shft S for screenshot any crop

[icy bane]

Shield is your best defensive stat stick, should prio craft shield if you’ve been unlucky with drops

[sick sentinel]

thats been very handy

[formal grail]

ya stil lstuck with 389 shield

[sick sentinel]

i might go after hands at some point, diamond hands

[south marlin]

What would you guys pick between these 2? (Seal of Diurnas chosen or tier chest that can be upgraded)

[buoyant narwhal]

Definitely the ring

make the frostfire belt and pewpew

[devout basalt]

Duders, will revenge take out an orb if you hsce it targeted?

Have*

[lofty widget]

no

[devout basalt]

Balls.

[warm plinth]

But the auto attack that you hit it with while revenging will

[devout basalt]

Ok thanks

[stable valve]

Any tips for how to blast on Council?
That and Diurna (I’m solo boss tank for my team 😭) are my only sub 99s still

Council I think I just need to pick up barbaric training and cast IP less

[regal pier]

Guys is the 4-set for prot insane? Because that top prot warrior is only running 2 set

[hazy sluice]

Nope

[torpid junco]

any tips on tanking 1st boss ruby? just got slapped on a 21

[uneven mason]

If you can get it without dropping a ton of ilvl it's fine, also don't rankings chase for information

[modern brook]

spel block and cycle cooldowns

[strong forum]

4pc is very good in m+

Meh in raid

[uneven mason]

That nuke though

[oblique quarry]

Do any of you guys use a mouse over for explosive other than heroic throw? I wouldn’t mind using something for mele range orbs but don’t think revenge would work and don’t want to waste SS

[regal pier]

Yea thats what I would use it for is M+

[dire matrix]

you can melee them

[stable valve]

Are you running spell block?

[dire matrix]

if u just target them

[uneven mason]

Ss produces rage regardless of what you hit

[dire matrix]

think he meant dmg waste

[modern brook]

its still al ot of wasted damage, yeah

[oblique quarry]

Yeah, don’t want to waste the dam

[dire matrix]

slam a mob

[modern brook]

but i mean better to waste damage than wipe on fake pulls

[dire matrix]

auto the orb

[uneven mason]

True, ask your DPS to do it?

[modern brook]

autoing orbs is actually goated

plenty of globals spent doing stuff that hits the whole pack

[dire matrix]

click orb tc/revenge/not slam

[plush tendon]

werent we able to victory rush orbs?

[modern brook]

that was patched like

[plush tendon]

at one point

[modern brook]

season 4 BFA

[plush tendon]

I miss those days

[oblique quarry]

I don’t mind auto attacking them just fell in love with azure striking them on my evoked and wondered if I could do something similar

Thanks gamers

[modern brook]

like

Explosives didnt die in one hit, when that was patched out

[regal pier]

explosive is a healer mechanic

[plush tendon]

I honestly can no longer remember

it was so long ago

[modern brook]

throw is as close as you can get tbh

[plush tendon]

I was just a young lad

[oblique quarry]

Just like to help in pugs, I trust no one haha

[warm plinth]

It wasn't patched. It just got changed/got bugged and they never fixed it or told us it was changed.

[modern brook]

honestly just AA the ones close to the pull that you can hit safely and let your healer deal with the ranged stuff

when he inevitably fails you hthrow comes in clutch

[plush tendon]

or, better idea, pull everything in the AA tree area at once, tell your rogue hes on orb duty and let the DH and Boomkin pump

[oblique quarry]

Lmao, sounds like a plan

[plush tendon]

what could go wrong

[dark pulsar]

its been 10 days since this char has hit level 70. It's been a hard grind. Finally I can go shower

[slow lake]

Hi fellow chads, new to tanking and prot. Is it ok to come out of defensive stance and pop some cds on mobs ? Or should I focus on staying healthy

[plush tendon]

stay in B Stance

[modern brook]

you should ideally be in bstance for as long as you arent taking damage

consider D stance a cooldown

the cost being damage instead of an actual cd

[plush tendon]

Theres a macro in the pins to swap between the two, but for 98.7% of the time you are playing, you are in B Stance

[regal pier]

Been playing since launch and im 404 @dark pulsar show me your way

[slow lake]

Wow that’s huge, thanks boys

[modern brook]

just prepare to be yelled at by people who only vaguely understand how the class works

[strong forum]

It was never patched out but oopsie blizz forgot to turn off scaling on orbs

[dark pulsar]

@regal pier my 407 shami also played since release^^
All you need is play 18 hours a day for 10 days (2 vaults) and a lot of fucking loot luck

[limber fable]

What's the best way to snap aggro on the adds in the first boss of av and the tree boss ? For tree Ive been using aoe taunt for the first , and then shocking and TC for the second but I'm still struggling . Same for av, I just don't know how to grab the adds quick enough

[strong forum]

That's more playtime than I have currently on my main lol

[modern brook]

18 hours a day yeesh bro

[strong forum]

Idk just press button, I've never had issues with that

[modern brook]

semantics 😠

[regal pier]

@limber fable ive seen a lot of people using whetstone for snap aggro for that boss, aoe taunt, and then saving ravager/thunderous roar

[modern brook]

in total fairness

[regal pier]

you can just clap/revenge adds that are still planted in the ground

[modern brook]

people are using whetstone for damage

[strong forum]

No that's just a fuck up on blizz side, why isn't explosive hp just plain 1 ,why does it scale at all

[modern brook]

game sucks

[strong forum]

Makes no sense for it to have multiple hundred hp

[smoky dock]

Question just simmed rumbling ruby, windscar whetstone and all totem of the master. It is saying best aoe combo is ruby and windscar for mythic plus wouldnt windscar and totem be top?

[stable valve]

Was messing around on my vengeance alt last season and learned that throw glaive didn’t one shot them

Was so so so annoying

[strong forum]

Ruby oversims because it assumes you always hit all targets perfectly

All-totem has defensive benefits

[mild jolt]

advise? im currently leaning into the Broodkeeper Ring
Just need another leg piece ( i wear carfted neck and pants)
2/4 Set pieces

[smoky dock]

Gotcha and that would make more sense thank you

[strong forum]

Ruby is just pure dmg and on average does less or the same raw dmg as all-totem

[stable valve]

Is that including the tiny bit of AP as well?

[strong forum]

Yes

[modern brook]

ring looks best imo

i think you have 4pc already?

[smoky dock]

Side note for windscar has anyone macro it to avatar or just clicked it separate.

[regal pier]

bloodmallet says the seal of fillial duty but where do we get the fire damage from? just decoration of flame?

[plush tendon]

click it seperate

[stable valve]

So heroic for heroic go totem, but probs replace w/ mythic ruby

[plush tendon]

dont want to miss casts of either if you can help it

[mild jolt]

nope, only have 2/4 currently, but raid is today, and next week is a save t piece with catalyst

[stable valve]

Frost fire belt

[strong forum]

Starting next week you'll be able to catalyse gear into tier, you proc the ring with unstable frostfire belt embellishment

[limber fable]

Oh I didn't realize aggro started then, I was doing it after they were up. Wow... I'm dumb. Okay thanks !

[modern brook]

yeaah i mean you can probably safely save this box for post raid

[strong forum]

Aggro starts when they pop out

Not when theyre planted

[modern brook]

but w/ cata coming i tihnk the ring is better than a teir ilvl downgrade

[regal pier]

yessir

[stable valve]

Aggro is after. But you can set bleeds up on them

[limber fable]

Ahh okay that makes sense

[stable valve]

Similar to adds on raz for first intermission

[mild jolt]

ill need to craft the belt and farm legs xD What embellishment ? never bothered about that.

[grizzled forge]

we gonna talk about how many explosives spawn on adds on first boss of azure vaults or?

[modern brook]

Underrot last boss desensitized me to explosives on add bosses

[plush tendon]

Yea, but that was free sustain

[white canyon]

Is there a rule about when to take into the fray vs the shieldblock extender talent? im at 4k (30%) haste rn

[strong forum]

HR is safer and better on bosses

Itf is more aoe pad

[plush tendon]

what.... HR is better on bosses....

fuck

[strong forum]

In m+ yes

[uneven mason]

Thunder, thunderclap hooooo

[strong forum]

Cuz you don't have 5 stacks at all times

[plush tendon]

how bout raid?

[strong forum]

Raid is itf all the way

Unless you're diurna boss tank

[plush tendon]

[strong forum]

Then you also play Hr

[plush tendon]

naw, im not silly

the other tank can do that

[modern brook]

what if u have 0 melee because your guild is hogging all the ranged DPS

[strong forum]

Then ITF sucks

[modern brook]

[white canyon]

so the higher u go in keys u start prefering hr to itf?

[plush tendon]

Ill trade you some rogues for a warlock

[modern brook]

Bro

[strong forum]

In my keys I never play ITF unless it's like a cos where tank dmg doesn't exist

[viral shell]

Unless I am mistaken. You trade in gear for catalyst next week, you get a set piece of the same ilvl?

[strong forum]

Yes

[modern brook]

I've gotten more weapons this teir than the last two expansions combined already

being the only rogue in a raid OWNS

[strong forum]

You turn you item into tier

[plush tendon]

we have... 4 rogues

[white canyon]

tyvm @strong forum

[plush tendon]

11 people on the Zenith tier

its terribad

[strong forum]

If not for crafting I'd still have 385 weapon and shield 🙂

[viral shell]

Ty

[plush tendon]

I snuck my DK into Heroic clear and got my 4 set

[modern brook]

just reroll to rgoue :^)

[strong forum]

Ah nvm actually I got piss 402 weapon and shield from hc raid

[plush tendon]

it helps the first two bosses drop a shield and 1h and 2h wep

[modern brook]

My war also using piss 402 still 😦

MY warrior has to be the single most item-edged character in the game

[plush tendon]

we saw like 8 shields drop in the first two weeks

[modern brook]

I have 4 teir helmets

[plush tendon]

so you the one stealing all the Zenith tier

[modern brook]

yes zenith teir and ranged DPS in my guild is all i have

[violet spruce]

Frostfire belt

[mild jolt]

thanks a lot, i was aware of the belt, but not sure about some other ways

[modern brook]

if an item/trinket says "fire damage" it'll proc the ring

[strong forum]

I got 3x 421 tierchest from vault back to back to back.

[modern brook]

My first box had tier helm, my 2nd box had 3 necklaces competing with lariat, and another tier helmet 🙂

My two piece got sent to an alt later that week :^)

[nimble glen]

should i gem haste crit or haste vers? currently gemmed haste crit

[strong forum]

Focus on haste

Rest you can do however you like

[uneven mason]

CRIT

Criiitttt

[toxic gyro]

Def gem vers

Let’s the war begin again

[uneven mason]

Fuck vers that meme stat should diaf

[toxic gyro]

😂

[grizzled chasm]

everything was peaceful, until the mastery nation attacked, we need it for our offspec, they said

[uneven mason]

We don't need the offspec

[jagged pier]

i mean no meme mastery isnt bad

[grizzled chasm]

Man doesn't raid tank you know

[solid granite]

The village of the hidden multistrike will not participate in this war

[uneven mason]

Legit want to cry, st DPS as prot vs st dam as fury is like 5k diff tops

[jagged pier]

mastery isnt from raid tanking

[grizzled chasm]

My main spec is fury so i gem mastery, thats what i meant

[strong forum]

Poor you

[toxic gyro]

Doesn’t sound right

[strong forum]

I heard fury plays even worse than Normal

[uneven mason]

It really is just yuk

[jagged pier]

do i spend my rage

no

no u dont

[toxic gyro]

Feels bad to use crushing blows and execute while you’re rage capped

[uneven mason]

Feels very wet noodles st

[grizzled chasm]

I dunno maybe for veteran warriors, but I'm having more fun with fury atm than I have with any spec since balance druid in WoD

I've only been playing it for like 5 weeks at this point tbf

[regal pier]

If you enjoy fury right now you revel at the thought of chaos

[uneven mason]

I'll have to give arms a try

[strong forum]

Isnt the rotation literally just "only rampage when enrage boutta fall off" and "execute when ready" and "crushing blow X4000"

[grizzled chasm]

yes

[jagged pier]

yer

[uneven mason]

Yes

[grizzled chasm]

Idk I'm having so much fun

[solid granite]

Sounds like a macro-rotation, ngl

[forest tulip]

while ill do what i can to help, is it the dps' job to destroy the explosive orbs?

[toxic pewter]

I find arms more fun

[strong forum]

Healer job

But you'll help out when the healer can't

[toxic gyro]

If they buffed rampage, spec would def feel better

[grizzled chasm]

I made our BM hunter and Unh DK cry by beating them on terros without even getting PI

[uneven mason]

until fingers fall off

[uneven mason]

That is the point of CB, to buff Ramage by 100%

[solid granite]

exciting..

[toxic pewter]

has anyone done RLP since nerfs and stuff is it easier

[grizzled chasm]

yep

[strong forum]

Ofc it's easier huh

[toxic pewter]

Interesting

[strong forum]

That's what nerfs do

[toxic gyro]

Yea it is, but overcapping rage feels so bad

[uneven mason]

No the lower damage made it harder to...

[toxic pewter]

I guess I meant like how much easier

[strong forum]

About tree fiddy

[uneven mason]

Yeah I think that what is throwing me

[solid granite]

ignoring the trash, about 25%

[toxic pewter]

Honestly should make dungeons more difficult imo

[toxic gyro]

Other than that spec plays nice and we have our burst back

[uneven mason]

Like not capping rage is ingrained in us for the last 18 years

Now it's like - whoa, don't press that until you need to burn stacks or enrage

[unborn forge]

Is the shield of the earth https://www.wowhead.com/item=192081/shield-of-the-hearth worth getting instead of the regular shield?

[solid granite]

if you wanna feel how 'precious' rage can be, play guardian :p

[uneven mason]

Until they fix the class tree my bear is in storage

[solid granite]

mine is boomie rn

although catweaving in raid still owns

[jagged pier]

no

[uneven mason]

Which makes me sad, because normally bear is my #2

[keen ember]

Noob prot warrior question: Is there a cast sequence macro that will cast the stance your not in to go from Battle -> Defensive or if in Defensive -> Battle?

[unborn forge]

so better to craft the regular shield them

[stable valve]

Check the pins

[solid granite]

mine is brew.. <sad brm noises>

[jagged pier]

yes

[unborn forge]

thx very much

[uneven mason]

BRM was awesome (for damage)

[solid granite]

still need a tank tho if you bring a BrM

[keen ember]

ty

[uneven mason]

I mean, you could tank

Just also kite

[solid granite]

BrM needs SL 4pc as a talent to feel good again imho

[uneven mason]

And uh, scream for externals

[warm plinth]

Blizz be like Inspiration Catalyst, Inspiration Catalyst, Inspiration Catalyst, and then 6 days before it comes out, Revival Catalyst bitches

[solid granite]

You mean the t-setifier / t-set catalyst?

[warm plinth]

yeah

[solid granite]

as if the affix matters

[warm plinth]

Yeah I mean, I don't care that they changed it. Just weird that they changed it

[cinder nova]

@strong forum GIBE

[granite pivot]

Hi, do we know if ruby whelp shell is worth for prot?

[solid granite]

probably because 'inspiration' already does exists

[warm plinth]

Yeah the crafting thing right

[toxic gyro]

Pretty good trinket, not the best

[warm plinth]

Depends on what you have really. It's probably like middle of the pack overall

[solid granite]

yeah, and crafted items can't be catalyzed, so it may be confusing to use a crafting-specific term

[warm plinth]

True, that's a really good point

[strong forum]

Ah, right

[toxic pewter]

As far as I can tell most dont really like that shield.. I personally would craft a 'regular' shield with my preferred stats and embellishment over that one

[warm plinth]

yeah, the proc is nothing special and you can't customize the stats on it either

[meager crescent]

You guys run d stance for tanking brood?

[toxic pewter]

If I am solo tanking her I wont lie I do find myself in d stance a good bit

[meager crescent]

Yeah I solo tank her. It seems a little rough

[toxic pewter]

Yah I stay in d stance the entire time

jsut because my main goal is not dying

[strong forum]

https://wago.io/-17S-4R7I

[warm plinth]

Now we can all play as good as Nome

[sleek current]

Is raidbot able to sim ruby whelp shell, or do I basically have to disregard all my sims.

[strong forum]

you need custom strings for now

[past locust]

how much dmg are yall doing overall in m+. im roughly doing around 40k and feel its too low

[dapper venture]

depends on the dungeon

[sleek current]

Thanks, where can I find these custom strings. Has some friendly neighbourhood Warrior done us a solid?

[strong forum]

60-80k

depending on key

[past locust]

jesus im short

just did 40k in SBG 16

[strong forum]

okay true i forgot smbg

50-80k

[past locust]

ah jesus

[strong forum]

active dps / details

with a clean run i can prolly squeeze out 60k in smbg

[split stratus]

Hi, I'm usiing https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/mythicplustimer to replace the default mythic+ timer my in doesn't hide it at all. Do you guys use this addon ?

[meager crescent]

He means for every key I think

[strong forum]

it doesnt count spell reflect

[meager crescent]

Oh nvm

[strong forum]

and smbg specifically highest ive done was 52k

[warm plinth]

I use http://www.wago.io/M+Timer

[strong forum]

there should be an option in the addon, to hide default timer

or in elvui

i had that same bullshit for months

[split stratus]

Already enabled :/

[high drum]

warp deplete gang

[strong forum]

only to find out its an option somewhere

[high drum]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/warpdeplete

[warm plinth]

He said with a clean run

[strong forum]

so

?

[atomic inlet]

is cirit mastery a good stat for m+?

[strong forum]

who says i cant reach a new high on logs

[warm plinth]

what's special about this one compared to others?

[split stratus]

This one looks cool and up to date, thanks mate !

[high drum]

dunno, i just use it

[atomic inlet]

i staucked between these two

[high drum]

puts tooltips on mobs for either % or count

configurable

nice n small

[warm plinth]

Gotcha

[atomic inlet]

i have a 408 tier chest already

[silent anchor]

HELP1!!!!!

[warm plinth]

The WA I use does the same, though this looks a bit better. Maybe I'll try it

[strong forum]

i respond with my dps, not average dps 😄

[toxic pewter]

what gloves do you have

[atomic inlet]

402 hast vers sbg

[strong forum]

you want a bit of mastery, its not a bad stat to have a bit of

[strong forum]

prolly chest if you dont already have

[silent anchor]

it would give me 4 pc

[atomic inlet]

have a 408 same chest

[silent anchor]

but grieftorch >_<

[toxic pewter]

oh dang 4pc

hell yea

[meager crescent]

Are we still using grieftorch?

[strong forum]

in normal keys and in all of raid yes, but in push keys its dangerous to run

you need to play well around it

[strong forum]

then the choice is yours

[atomic inlet]

402 glove

[strong forum]

its literal max ilvl chest

not gonna replace it before next tier

[silent anchor]

i think 4 pc is the better choice

[strong forum]

chest has bigger stat gain

but its up to you

[past locust]

i mean when are you gonna do mythic Kurog(?)

[strong forum]

you wont replace either chest or gloves for the rest of the tier

unless ofc mythic kurog

[past locust]

and when you do get mm kurog. when is it actually gonna drop

[strong forum]

or isnt kurog chest also 421?

[toxic pewter]

yes it is

[strong forum]

yeah so lmao

[atomic inlet]

i havent been able to do any mythic cause i dont have a good guild

so no

[strong forum]

only helmet and shoulders are 424

[past locust]

so take chest

[toxic pewter]

nothing better than that chest

[past locust]

if all failes

sim yo self

[opal flame]

Pls how would you rank [Burgeoning Seed] [Battle Scarred Scale] [Decoration of Flame]

[strong forum]

meh, dogshit, alright but nothing hot

[past locust]

just had both whetstone and melee ring drop for me in same run xD

[strong forum]

sick

[opal flame]

ty

[crimson snow]

Hey all, I have a question regarding focus macros: I currently have R bonded as interrupt and ctrl+R for storm bolt. I was wondering if it’s possible to have a focus interrupt macro with the key modifier as ctrl when a focus target is active?

[craggy pilot]

Frozen Devo is best on M+ right?

[strong forum]

no, sophic is

[past locust]

i thought sinful was?

[strong forum]

wrong expansion

[past locust]

aww 😦

[warm plinth]

No, mods don't work if you have a keybind for that button combo already.

[crimson snow]

Thank you

[vocal lintel]

What is better from vault for prot : 408 Whispering icon vs 421 Horn of Valor?

[warm plinth]

For you Horn, for your raid, possibly icon depending on how many other people have it

[vocal lintel]

Mostly looking at Mythic plus

[wary plume]

would it be insane to swap out indomitable for enduring alacrity? bit more haste

[warm plinth]

Then Horn

[wary plume]

for raids where i dont need much healing

[vocal lintel]

@warm plinth Thx!

[toxic pewter]

I personally would never get rid of indomitable

[warm plinth]

I wouldn't, but I don't really see why not if you're just on farm. It's such a tiny difference though.

[wintry anvil]

How many wolves do you ya'll pull at the same time on 17's HoV before Fenrir?

[warm plinth]

2 or 3

They're scary 👀

[toxic pewter]

2 then 3

[sick sentinel]

2 then 3, all 5 and people are dying

[warm plinth]

Except you, then you have to solo the pack

[toxic pewter]

yeah even during tyranical, pulling all 5 is a bad idea

[forest lantern]

got a 418 horn of valor in my vault this morning. current trinkets are 405 whetstone and 395 enduring scale. would you drop the scale and run 2 on use trinkets?

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[sick sentinel]

Scale is booty

[toxic pewter]

Yeah I would probably do it but I dont like having 2 on use personally

[forest lantern]

Yeah same.

[toxic pewter]

is there anything else you can take

[warm plinth]

I just cheat and macro one to an ability so I only have to worry about casting one XD

[forest lantern]

got a 392 ruby in my bags, is it worth training the whelp? havent checked since more information came out about that trink

[errant leaf]

guys how good is the all totem ?

[warm plinth]

Really good in M+, decent in raid

[errant leaf]

solid enough to skip +30 ilvl on bracers ?

[strong forum]

Probably

Bracers you can farm anywhere

Totem you can't

[unreal sage]

Quick question, is absorb from fire ring solid?

[errant leaf]

thing is i got nm ilvl on all totem and 418 bracers

[strong forum]

Well normal all-totem is eh

[strong forum]

Pretty solid with the belt ye

[unreal sage]

Gr8

I mean hc one

[flint grove]

spiteful storm any good?

[unreal sage]

Mine hc totem is doing up to 7%dps

Depend of key

But preety solid

Especisly if this is tank trinket

[mighty valley]

spiteful storm great damage in single target

worth in raid or if tyrannical bosses are v scary

[warm hill]

i know it's likely minor but which is best howline runes or the primal whetstones?

[strong forum]

Rune

[ornate thunder]

Can you reflect the entire imp pack in court with one reflect?

[blazing condor]

yes

go in first though

so your whole party isnt in combat when they start casting

[stark cradle]

@ornate thunder yes but you need to go in first and tell group to stay back

[sick sentinel]

Make sure the party doesn’t come in until cast starts

[stark cradle]

most of the time they wont listen and someone will die

[sick sentinel]

Or it gets messy

[neon elk]

So, geting used to grieftorch, and i gotta ask. Wtf is wrong with its CD ? I have both WA for it and put in on bars, and a lot of time it is redy and when i press it it says item not redy yet, its like its own CD is delayed by like 3sec ?

[strong forum]

That reflect is almost entirely pad

On imps*

It's not an actual gain for timer

[strong forum]

You're using whetstone

Whetstone CD animation on other trinkets is bugged

[compact jackal]

I missed it

[silent anchor]

Show of force or sudden deth for ST with 2pc?

[compact jackal]

have we had a vault winner today yet?

[strong forum]

It's 25sec CD cuz it refreshes the 20sec trinket CD each time whetstone deals dmg

[compact jackal]

Anything to beat out the disgusting 421 shield or 418 Strike Twice w/ leech?

[neon elk]

Och thats stupid

[strong forum]

Sudden death in raid, show of force in m+

[neon elk]

As fuck

But im glad its not me going crazy, thanks .

[dapper venture]

surely this isn't worth it for the 4 piece or am i tripping?

[strong forum]

It's funny each time somebody asks

[warm plinth]

It's easily worth it

[dire matrix]

whats best talent to drop for aoe silence on dathea?

[strong forum]

But never mentions that they're also using it after whetstone

[sick sentinel]

thunderlord

[strong forum]

Booming voice imo

[silent anchor]

thanks

[dapper venture]

heard ppl say 4 set isn't worth dropping ilvl but no credible source, thats why i ask here heh

[strong forum]

You don't run thunderlord in raid

Ever

[sick sentinel]

if hes asking that he prob has it

[strong forum]

It's giga in m+

[dire matrix]

no

no i dont

[strong forum]

Meh in raid

[dire matrix]

being disparaging to people asking a genuine question is cunty

[sick sentinel]

then show of force or whatever that one is called

[strong forum]

I drop booming voice, keep sudden death + disruptive shout

Cuz sudden death is a solid 3-4% dps gain on boss dmg

Booming voice isn't

[dire matrix]

ty nom

[strong forum]

Unless you wanna pad on adds ofc

Then booming voice is better

[dire matrix]

i mean its mythic

[sick sentinel]

i think you keep booming voice if you need adds damage

[dire matrix]

rather just kill the boss

idk if we need pad

[strong forum]

A man of honor

[dire matrix]

boss dmg logs are where its at

[inland adder]

Has there been a rule of thumb for how much ilvl approx it’s worth? I know prob not but I am also running into this

[dire matrix]

🙏

[strong forum]

This guy gets it

[fallen pulsar]

do people take shockwave/AoE interrupt for heroic Rasz for the burst balls

[dire matrix]

i literally have a 98 eragnog but r1 boss dmg

[strong forum]

I'm dropping 39ilvl on 2 pieces combined to get it

[dire matrix]

i kill the boss idiots can pad

[warm plinth]

Not really, but it's a fair bit for M+

[strong forum]

26 on gloves and 13 on legs

Very much worth it defensively

[inland adder]

This for raid ur taking?

[strong forum]

M+

[inland adder]

Talking

[warm plinth]

For raid I wouldn't drop ilevel for it

[strong forum]

For raid I don't run 4pc if I'm serious

[inland adder]

Ok that’s sorta where I’m at but I’m a bit new to prot.

[strong forum]

Dmg intake isn't high enough in raid to warrant the ilvl loss

[proud dock]

wait, u guys saying its worth ilvl drop for m+ for 4pc?

wtf sum1 trolled me yday

[warm plinth]

Yes

[strong forum]

Yes

People seriously undervalue the 4pc idk why

[warm plinth]

It's kind of incredible how often people open their mouths to say things when they know they don't know wtf they're talking about.

[proud dock]

19ilvl on legs and 36ilvl on chest, worth getting 4pc?

thats wat im dealing wit

[strong forum]

36ilvl on chest is steep

That's a bit much

Idk about that part ngl

2 biggest slots and quite the large drop

[proud dock]

lel sadgers, its a crafted chest

[strong forum]

Yeah in your case

Don't think that's worth

That's too much

If you said like 13ilvl on each

[proud dock]

ah ok now i dont feel as bad

[strong forum]

But 36 + 19

[sick sentinel]

36, is so much stats

[unreal sage]

Is live 3ilvl in Total

Like

[strong forum]

It's almost 5 ilvl overall

For him

13ilvl on 1 item = 1 overall ilvl

iirc

On the biggest stat slots

[modern brook]

16 slots in total so just under yeah

[rotund wharf]

Hey guys, is there a way to simulate trinkets for protect?

[strong forum]

Only offensively

[lunar delta]

I feel the same, idk if it’s worth to lose 1 ilvl overall (418 to 398 tier) for 4 pc

Feel like it’s steep

I can be wrong

[strong forum]

1ilvl is fine

I'm dropping 2 to get it

26 on gloves, which isn't a big slot, and 13 on legs

Pretty sure that's worth defensively, the trickle IP gain of + BrV value is definitely large in aoe

Cuz your IP gets eaten quite alot the higher you go

[steep wraith]

16 ilvl = 1 overall, 16 item slots

Trickle IP is definitely big, get to spend lots more rage on revenge when you don't have to spend 35 on IP constantly to get it back up and working

[inland adder]

Does trickle IP from 4pc reset the duration of active IP?

[sweet summit]

nop

[daring marlin]

Feels good when someone one-taps a 418 crafted piece

[queen cave]

Are there some who have the ring from broodmother, and can send me some logs on how much it procs and such?

[hidden arch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KnQPGVabCB467xDt#fight=37&type=healing&source=11 - note i've got the frostfire belt to proc it

[bold nimbus]

Is the incarnate trink good if none in the grp is using it ? Atm is my highest ilv trink 408 paired with winscar 405 ( got idol at 398 with avoidance as backup)

[queen cave]

do you have it from some m+ ?

[hidden arch]

i can upload some from last night i think

[uneven mason]

They've just realized that tanking should be fun and not like playing football with bricks

[queen cave]

i'd like to see. thx!

[uneven mason]

So the other tanks are getting buffed

Rather than putting prot in the dirt

Also we didn't we've been nerfed 4x already

Just enough that warriors who are completely garbage are noticable

[wary haven]

Warrior is in a great spot

Don’t think anything needs to be changed

[hidden arch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1pPndLDQv4GBH9Rr/ - last two entries in here are HOV/COS

[wary haven]

Some other tanks could use buffs if anything

[quartz jackal]

Guys how do you manage the jade essence debuff from the 3rd boss in temple? Im kinda struggling with this boss

[jagged pier]

[toxic gyro]

I think you missed last season of sl 🤦‍♂️

[uneven mason]

They're getting them, although druids are fine for survival, but obnoxious AF to play

[queen cave]

tyvm! ❤️

[uneven mason]

Tbh with the type of utility that can make or break a run we shouldn't be as high as we are, but because of fotm there are just a lot of warriors playing and community perception really screws with what someone will bring

[hazy sluice]

on nokhud third boss is it viable that everyone stacks on tank on the wind arrow?

[modern brook]

yes

the tornados spawn on your cardinal direction, not on you

so if everyones stacked

you insta dodge every nado

its a tight stack tho

Source is We did it last tyr week

iunno if its been changed since then

[uneven mason]

It's the intended way to deal with the mechanic

But yeah it's legit a sardine can stack

If one dude is out of place they're gonna eat 3 nado

Squish

[brave jungle]

What do I take? Finger in vault has Leech

[quiet monolith]

Does anyone have a nice single macro for charge/shield charge ?

I thought I saw one a few days ago

[toxic gyro]

What stats does the ring have ?

[brave jungle]

Most Mastery then Crit - and leech

[toxic gyro]

I would probably take gloves and make them into tier next week

[brave jungle]

I can do it next week even if I got the gloves from this vault?

Cause that sounds solid

[echo scarab]

Hey guys, how good is the All-Totem of the Master?

[toxic gyro]

Should be able to

[echo scarab]

Couldnt find much about it

[toxic gyro]

Really good for m+

[echo scarab]

Pog

Ty

[brave jungle]

Just saw this, so yeah

[tender cove]

does it always spawn a proto drake on boss?

or is that when fucking up eggs?

[echo scarab]

thanks man

got it in 408

[toxic gyro]

There you go

[echo scarab]

😏

[brave jungle]

Can I see somwhere what dungeons I should run specifics like Spell Block and Intervene? 🙂

[atomic nest]

Odd question how many items drop in lfr anyone know?

[oak echo]

I don't think it ends anything early it just allows them to not run away

Intervene buff has same duration as the chase

[daring marlin]

Spellblock could be useful in RLP

Assuming high enough key anyway

[heady jetty]

Which chest would you opt for? xD

[fallen pulsar]

For broodmother? Only if you dont kill the eggs with timers

[rancid ember]

Haste/mastery imo. You don't need the vers.

Haste>>>>

[harsh cedar]

Btw. Anyone know if there is a way to check for that 1% M+ IO title and where it currently draws the line?

[heady jetty]

Yea - Doesn't matter much i suppose

[rancid ember]

Outside of ILVL just get Haste prio generally.

[silk sandal]

so now that its been 6 days since the ruby whelping stuff, has anyone tested it and is it real?

I missed a day in training so I cant test it yet, but also its 405 and i dont want to put valor into it just to test =X

[fallen pulsar]

Theres a title for being in the top 1%?

[harsh cedar]

There was in SL. Shrouded hero or something like that

[silk sandal]

0.1% not 1%

[lofty widget]

it's 0.1 % and you can see it on raider.io

[pastel atlas]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS26lkSc_eaulHX7-UY8Uu-7DAHvkScxh3npd0kQn3uvvWsgsQm9ducLUi4R2mb7ieNluVilyq5sQe5/pubhtml#

[silk sandal]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus/cutoffs/season-df-1/us

[sick sentinel]

thats for people that like to play keys where the tank can get 1 shot by any old cleave

bit too intense for me

[chrome grove]

Pushing the highest and hardest content available can be very rewarding, and no one is doing keys where the tank gets 1 shot by cleaves

[sick sentinel]

i mean, at that point, you physically couldn't

[patent osprey]

Ive definitely been 1 shot by the lieutenant in azure vault by the 2nd boss cleave ability

On a 25 fort azure

[sick sentinel]

went to run 11 hov and it fell apart on the 2nd boss

first the other warrior was very angry on some trash that ppl cleared it and its a 30% dmg buff, then i did not get cleared on said boss and we blew up somehow, mage or whatever was "oh hows your not clearing early working now???"

[vast goblet]

11 is super low

[oblique kayak]

with any cds up?

[sick sentinel]

its pugs,

[patent osprey]

Think just spell reflect cause gotta use the big ones for breath 🙂

[daring marlin]

mfs hurt

[oblique kayak]

yeah that sounds right - Was Oneshotter on a 22 with SR/IP/SB up

[sterile bough]

is there any way to check 4p healing?

[lavish oracle]

5% of your damage, I suppose?

Or is it behaving funky

[viral oracle]

How much is the 4-set piece worth? I have 22ilvl higher legs available but it would break 4-set bonus, worth?

[sick sentinel]

TBH, i usually run spell block, so i whenever i get to hyjarr part and then i get to the part with the gold balls/squigly i ht spell block

[oblique kayak]

m+ - no

[sick sentinel]

that may have been part of it, could have aten tons of those balls while stunned

[rancid ember]

Were you 1 shot by Lt or the Boss? I'm confused XD

[vast goblet]

maybe he pulled the Lt into the Boss 🙂

[patent osprey]

just the LT

in that boss room

[spare turret]

Are you having trouble with getting aggro at the tree boss of AA?

[patent osprey]

Just have either Dragons Roar, or AOE Taunt + Ravager for each set

[spare turret]

kk

where i can see how many explosives has my dps kill?

[urban portal]

addon for details

[neon elk]

There is also a WA , something like "explosives counter" , it has also a button to report kills.

[tacit vapor]

hey i got a question about prot warrior 4p, does it apply/refresh ignore pain or only add to an existing ignore pain?

[strong forum]

apply, doesnt refresh

[tacit vapor]

so if you dont have it active it would apply a ignore pain but if you already have ignore pain active the duration doesnt get refreshed, just checking i understood you correctly

[strong forum]

Yes

That's how it works

[tacit vapor]

thanks for the info ❤️

[novel sentinel]

is the all-totem of the master trinket actually any good? I see some people using it but it felt underwhelming in my own testing

[dire matrix]

i have obtained

the ruby whelp

time to train

[safe sluice]

Good afternoomn everyone, I am looking to have the Primal Molten Longswod crafted, any idea if the rank of the Primal Molten Alloy matters?

[lofty widget]

i got my rank5 with lvl 2 reagents, so shouldnt

but depends on crafter i think

[safe sluice]

xurrently debating between lvl1 and lvl 2

but big price gap and its my first crafting order

[novel sentinel]

level of mats gives more skill when crafting, but as long as they get within inspiration range it doesn't change much

[jagged pier]

its the bis m+ trinket

[dire matrix]

what do i train my whelp in

aoe?

[novel sentinel]

really? what about it is actually good? because it just seemed poor in all categories when I used it

[safe sluice]

so not worth blowing all the extra gold on lvl2?

[jagged pier]

what it does good damage and applys buffs and debuffs u dont see

[novel sentinel]

as long as your crafter can get within inspiration range, but only they can know that

[safe sluice]

and they can know that prior to actuallly making it?

[novel sentinel]

I guess it's the bit I don't see that's making it then because it looked real bad

[novel sentinel]

yes but they need to have the mats to be able to tell without prior experience attempting it

[safe sluice]

okay so I could send them a personal order and they could tell me what ilvl it would be?

[novel sentinel]

yes

[safe sluice]

ok sweet

thanks dude

[dire matrix]

are we training aoe or st

whelp

[dull saddle]

Did the IP tracker aura that is pinned break for anyone else? I updated WA to latest today and I am getting lua errors on the custom trigger

[cinder nova]

HYES

[safe sluice]

is anyone using the M+ trash % tracker Weakaura? I had it "work " once...every other time its jsut an inverse of the mob% tracker blizz has in

[strong forum]

Mine works just fine

So idk

I don't have my version as an isolated weakaura but in my weakaura pack there's a working one included

I just hid the icon and made it a small text

[broken crag]

what's the best tank comp for mythic kurog with the options of prot war, veng dh, and bdk?

two of the three

[wary haven]

What resources do you guys use for learning dungeon routes? I use the mythic plus tools addon, but I feel like there might be some things I’m missing knowledge wise

[tropic cobalt]

Asked the same quetion and naver got an answer. But found Quazii on the tube and kinda build routed from that.

[smoky dock]

Keyguru

[oak echo]

I'll usually like watch what other people are doing either from streams or vids and try to understand why they do the pulls they do and adjust based on what I think my group is capable of in comparison

[smoky dock]

Wouldn't say it's the best one out there but it's the one I use to get ideas and such.

[sick sentinel]

bunny mount eh new 6 month thing, see about if i get that or not

[dull saddle]

I edited mine to make it a bar instead, but it's now breaking since updating WA

[lusty narwhal]

so whats the best buff to level up on ruby whelp shell now that we know a lot more about it?

[strong forum]

The dmg procs are the most consistent

They can't proc at inopportune times

Heal is awful

[lusty narwhal]

so level single or aoe oone?

[strong forum]

St is safer bet

Imo

[lusty narwhal]

is the trinket still relaly good even if you do single target? i feel like aoe/buffs you get more out of it

but i know nothing about it so

[strong forum]

The buffs are 16% uptime

On 20% haste /15% crit

[lusty narwhal]

does it still get fucked and target mobs out of combat in M

M+ with ST?

[lofty widget]

played with a ST-levelled shell tonight in raid, not impressed 😦

[lusty narwhal]

hmm

[zinc spruce]

would u guys ever play this page on a m+

or is it too greedy

[lusty narwhal]

juggernaut seems way worse than punish

[zinc spruce]

ye fixed

was about to say

xd

[lusty narwhal]

i dont think id ever drop shockwave

but i mostly pug so

[sick sentinel]

Shockwave and stormbolt are too good

[strong forum]

Literally suicidal

That way you're literal paper plane

[zinc spruce]

HAHA

yeah..

okay

[sick sentinel]

Can run that when your carrying buddies alts through low keys I suppose

[strong forum]

It's max dmg on ST

But likec

No

Just no

Actually it might no even be max dmg

[vocal bridge]

Someone has the correct spell order for wind on raz as prot ?

[pulsar sedge]

If you were trolling low keys, shockwave build would do more than that

[strong forum]

Nah that's a pure ST dmg build

But losing Impenetrable wall is rage loss

[lusty tiger]

For all the pure st encounters there are

[strong forum]

And 1 point in nails is more St dmg than bloodborne

[strong forum]

I mean, eranog, terros, sennarth, kurog

Dathea is 90% St

Diurna boss tank is 100% ST

[sick sentinel]

arms getting huge changes i seee

[fading tide]

How do I make sure the third boss of Jade temple doesn’t duck me up

[strong forum]

Yeah massive arms stonks

[strong forum]

Rotate CDs, SW 1x -> spell block 2x -> SW 1x -> whatever is left

[autumn urchin]

is nails ST dmg factoring tank swap

[fading tide]

SB works for jade or just fire?

[strong forum]

Hm, now that I'm checking my logs

Bosses like eranog and terros are afk too much

[strong forum]

Doenst work for any

That boss is pure magic dmg

Full 100% magic dmg

But you can deflect the fire ones

To not take any dmg

Jade you can't deflect

[pulsar sedge]

Good to use IV right after you get hit by jade palm so you can help the healer as well.

[fading tide]

So what’s the point of using SB then?

[pulsar sedge]

That or pray ;D

[mighty valley]

i know it probably seems obvious and jade strike still trucks but... make sure you're not getting hit by the followup circle or wave

i swear a lot of people are panicking and getting hit by extra shit

[pulsar sedge]

Nomeratur — Today at 2:15 PM
Rotate CDs, SW 1x -> spell block 2x -> SW 1x -> whatever is left

Pretty sure he didnt say SB

[warm plinth]

Well besides increasing your damage, the boss still melees

[strong forum]

Free dmg

[fading tide]

SB isn’t spell block?

[strong forum]

No.

But you need SB up to have 100% chance to spell Block

SB is shield block

Spell Block is spell Block

No abbreviation

[warm plinth]

Can't use spb because we don't have spirit bomb amirite

[strong forum]

I don't think so

[vivid marsh]

hello! one question from a noobie warrior tank, for mainly mythic+ purpose but also raid (casual) what do u recommend for weapon enchant frozen devotion o sophic devotion? thanks!

[strong forum]

Sophic

[pulsar sedge]

Sophic is the general all round winner

[strong forum]

If you know how to press buttons, and it has defensive gains

Frozen is better dmg wise you're not as good yet

Enchants are a bit more affordable now

[pulsar sedge]

Im pretty sure sophic is cheaper than frozen

[strong forum]

Sophic devo r3 is like 20k

[warm plinth]

Both panda and dragon form melee

[strong forum]

Huh...

[vivid marsh]

in my server price is 1:1