but thats the goated stat spread
#protection
strong forum
whole vortex
4k Haste 
craggy pilot
according to bloodmallet
whole vortex
I'm giga behind on stats 
craggy pilot
strong forum
yeah something along those lines
sick sentinel
"only 15% versa, damn no wonder you died so much you gotta get more versa, i have 20% and i never die and when i look at the top warriors on raider io they all stack 40% versa" - old gm
strong forum
hes not very smart is he
warm plinth
Great now we're gonna have people in here going man I only have 5% mastery and I'm dying in 20s
sick sentinel
TBF, he's 2200 IO now
strong forum
Great now we're gonna have people in here going man I only have 5% mastery and I...
skill issue 😄
strong forum
TBF, he's 2200 IO now
2.2k is like all 15s done
sick sentinel
but he does premades with tank/healer/dps calls it "pugging"
strong forum
not exactly high
sick sentinel
its better than my score anyways
craggy pilot
hmm idk if ill even use Big Toe, since 2min with our 1.5min CDs is kinda weird 🤣
craggy pilot
so maybe Ruby + Whetstone is where its at for me now
warm plinth
Yeah, all 18s is 2496
sick sentinel
he's got a bunch of 16s and 17s over time
and he was telling me hes gunna do 20's.....
sure SBG maybe
keen nebula
Think I will setup with Icon+whetstone for now, till I get a heroic torch
and rumbling ruby for NO/Academy
craggy pilot
damn i want a HC Icon so bad
strong forum
why
craggy pilot
helps healers + dps who have icon
strong forum
icon is only decent if you have dps/healer icon in your group
strong forum
and nobody in m+ runs those
craggy pilot
but it kinda fell through
keen nebula
my group has healer and dps with it
warm plinth
Icon is probably not even good in keys. No one runs it in keys
strong forum
then its alright i guess
craggy pilot
cus im timing better keys in pugs than with my push grp..
strong forum
but like
sick sentinel
icon doesn't go crazy good if you have 5 people equip it in a key does it
craggy pilot
weird when trying to do comms during M+ makes me make more mistakes
sick sentinel
someone for science some day
craggy pilot
and made them do more mistakes as well
warm plinth
You personally don't get more stats if more than a dps and healer have it (in addition to you) I don't think.
But they would need it to get the bonus from you/the healer
craggy pilot
pugging seems so much easier at +18
fallen pulsar
man timers on higher keys are tight, couple wipes and key is basically dead. Been starting to run 18s
craggy pilot
man timers on higher keys are tight, couple wipes and key is basically dead. Bee...
depends on dungeon rly
tender cove
pugging seems so much easier at +18
im gonna start refusing any runs below +16
its just a fucking shitshow
topaz leaf
depends on dungeon rly
In AV it's 0 wipes and deplete. 
sick sentinel
im gonna start refusing any runs below +16
my key WAS a 12 o n tuesday, its now a 9 lmao
craggy pilot
since u cant mount
craggy pilot
its just a fucking shitshow
i feel ya, was trying to do 11+ on my alts 🤣
sick sentinel
all i needed was 2 12s on time and i could have crafted some shit
craggy pilot
people know 0 tech in 11+
tender cove
my key WAS a 12 o n tuesday, its now a 9 lmao
my healer started work again and we're not really syncing on time so been helping guildies and its half pug for the most part. Its driving me insane.
craggy pilot
they just W the dungeon and die to every mechanic
sick sentinel
but instead i got rode around on a wild god damn goose chase
craggy pilot
i have 4x 418 items crafted now 😇
tender cove
i feel ya, was trying to do 11+ on my alts 🤣
I did a +15 nokhud an hour ago, this drood, 2100 score, legit walked into the insanely big frontal from the trash at the hills. WALKED INTO IT and died
like, how?
it was bit funny cant lie but still annoying xD
sick sentinel
im extremely frustrated with wow now this week
craggy pilot
the frontals on birds is stunnable though :/
if you line them up, you can layer AOE stuns
and never have a frontal
tender cove
it was one left and we were going to next pack and he just walks into it and keeps walking in the cone xD
craggy pilot
nice 😄
sick sentinel
someone dropped the fire add in ...... you guessed it....... the middle of the fire......... (boss 2 RLP)
we didn't time
topaz leaf
tbh I hate these pulls on the hills. way too much shit on the ground.
craggy pilot
so many people dont know to stand on the side on 2nd boss RLP 🤣
craggy pilot
tbh I hate these pulls on the hills. way too much shit on the ground.
yea and it clips weirdly with the sides
sick sentinel
the fire add goes beside the boss in a clear spot in a spot thats not going to fuck over our movment
if we have to get out
melee gets to it faster, ites not killiing out group by walling us in
tender cove
if we have to get out
if you see its about to happen, casters clumping up? just pre move the boss, like a fuck ton, make boss go out of range and they will move.
works 8/10 times xD
craggy pike
thoughts on ruby whelp shell if fully trained?
sick sentinel
i don't want to log in to wow at all any more this weekend and probably not next week as well beside a vault
fallen pulsar
time to hopefully no implode inside a TJS 19
sick sentinel
after that crap
tender cove
just brush it off and go again bro.
I'm still salty about this mage fucking leaving on a +16 2 chest with 7 minutes left xD
like who fucking does that, even if its drama in the group
topaz leaf
yea and it clips weirdly with the sides
or last boss spamming lightning bolts under your feet. it's alright when melee, but goddamn it's awful when I'm playing ranged.
craggy pilot
or last boss spamming lightning bolts under your feet. it's alright when melee, ...
he only does that during the adds doesnt he?
or am i remembering wrong
been a while since i been in nokhud tbh
topaz leaf
nah phase 2 I think
tender cove
ye, its p2
can someone link me their cos route from a +16 or higher?
i wanna see what everyone else is doing for pulls
tulip kelp
I just press W in cos lol
tender cove
same, thats why i wanna get some different input
tender cove
yeh, that comes down to toys etc
but what about until first boss. Its harbor default?
i just wanna see someone mdt xD
tender cove
did you get stone yet? @craggy pilot
craggy pilot
did you get stone yet? <@270309256471773194>
craggy pilot
60 runs is all it took 😴
tender cove
ez 😛
warm plinth
first run nbd
whole vortex
That looks like 59 runs to me 
craggy pilot
first run nbd
you got a 408 first run? 😄
warm plinth
It was like a 392 or something, I upgraded it a bit
tender cove
i spent all mine on hoof and whetstone, then got grief in vault 😦
craggy pilot
idk i kinda like the idea of having a buff trinket and a dmg trinket, but 2min CD doesnt line up with ANYTHING for warrior
kinda sadge
maybe puzzle box is the play 🤣
lines up with every 2nd Dragon Roar in both spec
whole vortex
2 second cast while tanking 17 mobs
craggy pilot
hopefully you can block during 🤣
fallen pulsar
welp, all the DPS died to beam in TJS boss one, then left the key
whole vortex
Solving rubix cube while blocking and parrying attacks
sick sentinel
just do puzzle box 2s cast while boss is casting 2.X second cast .... DUUHHHHH 5head 6head
whole vortex
and they call warriors dumb
fallen pulsar
all normal in a day of M+
tender cove
2 second cast while tanking 17 mobs <:deadge:900279927138578432>
Haven't really noticed it being an issue, was actual issue with storm trinket, that 10 sec root xD
ohh, cast time, nvm.
sick sentinel
TBH after playing all of SL
craggy pilot
the Dathea trinket seems sick though
tulip kelp
I have over 100 points in phial mastery and I lose money buying mats and crafting phials lmao.. fucking scam profession
warm plinth
welp, all the DPS died to beam in TJS boss one, then left the key
sounds about right
whole vortex
I have over 100 points in phial mastery and I lose money buying mats and craftin...
should have maxed out multicraft bozo
craggy pilot
I have over 100 points in phial mastery and I lose money buying mats and craftin...
even if you factor in resourcefulness?
tulip kelp
should have maxed out multicraft bozo
multicraft is maxed too
sick sentinel
thats how infinity banner, and reprisal was feeling to me, like im trying to also do a rubix cube and a different smaller rubix cube while im trying to do my keystone
whole vortex
should have maxed out multicraft Resourcefullness
tulip kelp
even if you factor in resourcefulness?
Yep
craggy pilot
did i dream that they said Valor will be uncapped next week?
warm plinth
Yes
craggy pilot
cant find the wowhead post anymore
sick sentinel
it was too much going on with the mechanics and positioining.
craggy pilot
was 100% sure i saw a post about it 🤣
warm plinth
There was a fake blue post going around that said they were
craggy pilot
ah ok
would be sick tho
i would be insta 415
there was also some info about CC being 1 week early
and then it wasnt anyway 🤔
sick sentinel
my thoughts is infinite, or double valor at least, should be part way around 1/2 1/3rd way though seasons
warm plinth
Wowhead just interpreted what Blizzard said in a very weird way
sick sentinel
like, 1/3rd you get now valor, 2/3rd you get double. weekly cap, 3/3rd you get infinite, next season begins, start over at beginning
warm plinth
Eh, I think valor should be uncapped really early in Dragonflight
tender cove
valor rn is whack, wtf is 750 per week??
warm plinth
Like, once the race is over, it should be uncapped. Loot drops from M+ suck ass, and we are going to have rotating dungeon pools
tender cove
should be at least 2k per week
warm plinth
Valor has always been 750/week though. We even got more this time around with the first week being 1500
tender cove
Valor has always been 750/week though. We even got more this time around with t...
yeh but thats what, 1 item per week? Thats 16 weeks ignoring wrong choices. thats bit much tbh
warm plinth
Depends on the item
flat sorrel
How many people generally get the top 0.1% title in mythics? Is like like 1,000ish? For services that is
sick sentinel
3 upgrades on a shield
warm plinth
250-1000 per level
sick sentinel
750 valor is 3 shield taps
tender cove
ohh ye, weps are 1k even lmao
sick sentinel
so, you can easily pump shield for cheap
warm plinth
so you can upgrade a weapon and shield one level each week theoretically
craggy pilot
idk honestly if Valor was unlimited, i would have full 415 gear now
which also seems kinda op
sick sentinel
i just want to take things easy tonight at least, come back at it tomorrow clear head
tender cove
idk honestly if Valor was unlimited, i would have full 415 gear now
i'd settle and be content for a middle ground, its the extremes that sucks but I also dont really see an issue with uncapped valor tbfh
craggy pilot
im 410 with now 4x 418 from crafting, and spent all my valor on COS ring
still have my 389 Cobalt Assembly ring
tender cove
i'm only 397 xD
sick sentinel
still 393, but i also have 2 sparks and valor cap
warm plinth
idk honestly if Valor was unlimited, i would have full 415 gear now
Yeah but I mean, you're doing 18-20 keys if that's the case, right
sick sentinel
starting to get walled for gear upgradeds
craggy pilot
Yeah but I mean, you're doing 18-20 keys if that's the case, right
yes
warm plinth
because you need 2400 to upgrade to 415
craggy pilot
should be probably doing pure 20s with my gear
but didnt rly push anything to 20 other than SMBG
maybe i push one of these days
craggy pike
🫡
warm plinth
We did an 18 HoV yesterday. Trash is fuckin brutal in there
craggy pilot
We did an 18 HoV yesterday. Trash is fuckin brutal in there
true
slim dove
its not too bad on fort.
warm plinth
We ended up skipping one of the packs of the dudes in the center
craggy pilot
i think i need to change up my Fenryr route a bit
warm plinth
and doing sentinels instead
craggy pilot
and doing sentinels instead
i always do Sentinels 🤔
lean zephyr
i never do sentinels
warm plinth
we generally don't do any sentinels
craggy pilot
sentinels are free with movespeed
warm plinth
But they were easier than the pack we were trying to kill
craggy pilot
they take forever ye, but quite safe to 3x Sentinels when you have movespeed
slim dove
unless your 2x mdps
warm plinth
we tried this pack like, idk, 3 times 😂
craggy pilot
unless people stand in the circle 🤣
slim dove
then its literally ZZZZZZZ
fallow osprey
you join a group for TJS that's all melee for this week. are you like cool, or are you spooked
warm plinth
Thundercaller + Runecarver is fuckin spicy
slim dove
you join a group for TJS that's all melee for this week. are you like cool, or a...
its fine
craggy pilot
do people kill Wolfs in Fenryr area? they seem quite dangerous
lusty narwhal
is rumbling ruby any good?
craggy pilot
like REALLY fucking dangerous
craggy pilot
is rumbling ruby any good?
yes in AOE
warm plinth
do people kill Wolfs in Fenryr area? they seem quite dangerous
we do like 5? I think in our route
craggy pilot
lean zephyr
ya
craggy pilot
and idk what bears do
warm plinth
Yeah you just go fenryr the normal way, and then go back on the right side
Bears have a tank hit and then another tank hit that debuffs armor but with movespeed you just sort of kite them
and they won't do the debuff
reef holly
I wiped a group pulling the last two wolves into fenryr…
warm plinth
Having a group slow is even better but just the movespeed is enough to make them a joke
craggy pilot
I wiped a group pulling the last two wolves into fenryr…
i do that all the time 🤔
and i just sit Dstance until they die
reef holly
Group was mad because we could’ve timed if not for that
tender cove
and i just sit Dstance until they die
that doesn't fuck the group with jumps and fenryr aoe?
craggy pilot
my highest Fort halls is +17 currently though
craggy pilot
that doesn't fuck the group with jumps and fenryr aoe?
nah
the wolves get cleaved down slowly
with the boss add wolves
reef holly
Is it possible to pull the last 2 sentinels up to Main boss area and skip the center hall pack?
craggy pilot
Is it possible to pull the last 2 sentinels up to Main boss area and skip the ce...
doesnt sound like a good idea
since you need to pick up Beer after the Sentinels
sick sentinel
ya, that looks more or less correct to me
reef holly
since you need to pick up Beer after the Sentinels
Yeah I just learned the beer tech the other day
Cool thanks
tender cove
Yeah I just learned the beer tech the other day
what is this?
warm plinth
Is it possible to pull the last 2 sentinels up to Main boss area and skip the ce...
There's no time save between just killing the sentinels where they are vs pulling them up because you can't fight them on the way
And it's annoying
craggy pilot
what is this?
before you run up to the mini kings, you pick up beer
throw it on one of them, talk to the other
one will get attackable, the other gets "aggressive"
walk the attackable to the aggressive one, and they start fighting
so it dies faster
tender cove
ahh ye, the dps does that for me, just didnt know what they actually did xD
craggy pilot
then after it stops, you can talk to it, and fight 2 at the same time
ah i always do it myself
tender cove
thanks
craggy pilot
fucking hate when someone runs ahead and talks before i can get up there
so i lose the buff
reef holly
I just pull all the bulls in the center- nobody has complained yet.. 😄
reef holly
Probably a pain in the ass for melee dps tho
craggy pilot
nah
if you just let them do the AOE once
they have long CD
but if you chain stun the AOE
they just keep recasting
which can suck for melee yes
tender cove
do the stags give exactly 1% when eaten by dragon or is still the mdt 0.37%?
reef holly
What percent do you need before going up to the escalator?
tender cove
they give 16% up stairs
alpine night
Is it possible to pull the last 2 sentinels up to Main boss area and skip the ce...
You can do that and get a big add while you fight thoses 2 sentinels, been doing that for ever and also in 20/21 works well for a key that is way too close
lean zephyr
What percent do you need before going up to the escalator?
83.70
https://pastebin.com/guPFCibt this is the route i use, works well but not sure where i can get more time
craggy pilot
do the stags give exactly 1% when eaten by dragon or is still the mdt 0.37%?
i started not counting in %
tender cove
what is the butt pull range for the patroling sentinel between hyrjia and fenryr?
tender cove
4 what?
strong forum
It's the more accurate data on how much mobs you need to kill
1 deer in HoV gives 1 count
1 bull gives 5 count
For example
tender cove
And why is this better?
strong forum
It's easier to "count"
For making routes
Which isn't super relevant outside of ultra keys
tender cove
Talk to me like im stupid bro.
strong forum
And WF keys
Bro I can't go much simpler, keys require a different amount of "enemy forces" aka "count"
Each mob gives a different amount of count
tender cove
I dont get how keeping track of a unit worth 270 with varying counts for each mob i have to pull.
vs just 100%
indigo gulch
just to check in generally what phial you all are using ?
Phial of the Eye in the Storm or Phial of Glacial Fury
craggy pilot
vs just 100%
cus i dont have to think "is this worth 3.487362%"
i can think in 1-2-4-5-8
normal numbers
not mega comma numbers
strong forum
just to check in generally what phial you all are using ?
Phial of the Eye in th...
On average GF or tepid vers are better
dense ledge
% can be wrong, you need 83.7% before going to kings but looking at count is more accurate
tender cove
Bro I can't go much simpler, keys require a different amount of "enemy forces" a...
but then I need to know every single mob and their count? Or is there some addon for it?
strong forum
Mdt takes care of that for you
craggy pilot
but then I need to know every single mob and their count? Or is there some addon...
no, MDT tells you the count
similar to where you see %
strong forum
It'll display the count on the mobs mouseover info
And it's also listed for every mob in mdt
tender cove
Its called "forces"?
dense ledge
when you do a couple routes in mdt you will see that it is better to look at count
strong forum
Everybody says count
indigo gulch
On average GF or tepid vers are better
Got it.
strong forum
But the official word is "enemy forces"
craggy pilot
main thing is i know what stuff i can replace with other stuff
its super useful for 2nd area COS
because so much varies there
craggy pilot
my little cheat sheet for COS 😄
strong forum
It's just more accurate and easier to understand the value
tender cove
and how do I see this while doing a run instead of the %?
tender cove
I use warpdepelete or w/e its called
strong forum
Yeah then it displays both % and count
strong forum
Yes
indigo gulch
got it. thanks
dense ledge
oh
brisk sandal
guys the idol of trampling hooves did 8.5% of my dps on our 1st hc raz kill tonight, just a little more than deep wounds. This trinket is legit now after the buff it got?
tender cove
I like how i learn something new here every single day. Its both exhausting and fun xD
so now i gotta relearn everything, yay... 😛
craggy pilot
guys the idol of trampling hooves did 8.5% of my dps on our 1st hc raz kill toni...
depends a lot on what kind of DPS you did in total
tender cove
but it does make a lot of sense, just today in AA. I got lost because dps butt pulled and tried to make it up on the fly, was 0.44% off 😦
missed timer with 8 seconds
craggy pilot
but it does make a lot of sense, just today in AA. I got lost because dps butt p...
when counting in %, rounding errors can happen
dense ledge
maybe you didn't make the huge pulls and dps got angry
craggy pilot
but in AA theres a lot of trash right outside the boss room
dense ledge
craggy pilot
you can just pick % there
tender cove
maybe you didn't make the huge pulls and dps got angry
Generally i dont because i have monkeys for dps who doesnt know what stun or interupts are xD
strong forum
guys the idol of trampling hooves did 8.5% of my dps on our 1st hc raz kill toni...
How much dps is that 8.5%
Cuz uh.
My bet is that your overall dps isn't that high, if trampling hooves did this fucking much
It should be around 1.5k dps
tender cove
you can just pick % there
yeh, i counted it in my head and yelled "we're good, we're good"
but it wasnt xD
strong forum
From my guesstimate
craggy pilot
yeh, i counted it in my head and yelled "we're good, we're good"
wdym?
you can see your % before you go last boss?
and just pull 1 more pack?
brisk sandal
it was 1.47 million, yes true im offspeccing prot because our main tank was out
strong forum
I mean dps, not total dmg but yea
tender cove
and just pull 1 more pack?
inside boss room i turned but everyone screamed "after boss, after boss, it goes faster, dont have to kill whole pack"
craggy pilot
it was 1.47 million, yes true im offspeccing prot because our main tank was out
1.5mil dps holy shit this guy pumps ❤️
craggy pilot
inside boss room i turned but everyone screamed "after boss, after boss, it goes...
yea idk bro
strong forum
The thing about % is it depends on how much dmg you also deal in comparison right
wide charm
That’s only 8% of his dps
craggy pilot
after i changed my route in AA, it feels very simple
wide charm
So he omega pumps
craggy pilot
just need to learn what the adds in front of last boss does
radiant path
Does the strike twice proc also generate more rage as if it's an auto attack?
strong forum
Nothing else
craggy pilot
dense ledge
after i changed my route in AA, it feels very simple
can you post the route, I copied one but can't get to 100% before going to last bossi
craggy pilot
this is perfect 100.00%
but idk the last packs seem quite dangerous to pull multiples together
wide charm
Just pull all plants and lust as first pack imo
strong forum
But regardless @brisk sandal ye it's a solid trinket
craggy pilot
but they are rly good count
brisk sandal
ahh was a genuine question as to whether the trinket was good or not
craggy pilot
Just pull all plants and lust as first pack imo
i go vex first
brisk sandal
i only logged green so no i did not play well xD
strong forum
Just solid
dense ledge
but idk the last packs seem quite dangerous to pull multiples together
the patrol before last boss seems so inefficient
strong forum
Is aight 😉
brisk sandal
ok ty ty
wide charm
i go vex first
I do that on tyrannical
dense ledge
that's from a 24 with a boomie so not even sure those pulls work without one, have to go to pull 14 and kill the echoknight after boss
wide charm
Why skip the bridge packs ? They are not all that hard once you have the right cc
dense ledge
not sure, I was trying to include them after changing the route but can't really get the count right then
ripe whale
What embelished items are BIS for Prot warrior?
Heard obviously lariat and frostfire belt
strong forum
Any
craggy pilot
Why skip the bridge packs ? They are not all that hard once you have the right c...
idk i just feel the last boss trash is better than bridge pack
but dunno rly
flat sorrel
how do you guys normally sim for mythic+
strong forum
You don't
craggy pilot
bridge pack is kinda hmm, and it forces you to go Vex/Bird after each other
strong forum
You just follow the simple rule of the stat prio
tender cove
that's from a 24 with a boomie so not even sure those pulls work without one, ha...
how do you even walk those with so many skips?
dense ledge
rogue shroud
wide charm
not sure, I was trying to include them after changing the route but can't really...
I don’t skip bridges, take 2 less on pull 6 (at the top), don’t take the bottom left on pull 13 and only the pack in the entrance
strong forum
You can sim a few 5-10 target Sims to figure out some aoe options
ripe whale
so any of the embelished items are ok? just seen a few people running different stuff like the shield etc.
wide charm
I don’t like the end packs because of arcane missiles and my melees always dying lol
strong forum
Yes any embellishment is fine
Belt is only popular because it can proc the fire raid rings
craggy pilot
i made belt just because i could
strong forum
Lariat is popular cuz we all got baited
craggy pilot
dont even have fire ring 😄
spice radish
we did this on 24 btw
tender cove
rogue shroud
you have 2 rogues?
craggy pilot
Lariat is good because it can multi spec easily
same as Frostfire belt
and the Vers wrist is rly good also
i got baited by tinker socket on wrist 🤦
ripe whale
vers proc shield any good?
spice radish
no, its a meme
tender cove
Lariat is popular cuz we all got baited
how so?
strong forum
Mouth to mouth propaganda
tender cove
but whats bad about it? Or what is better so to speak?
craggy pilot
literally every discord and every streamer was spewing Lariat 🤣
strong forum
It's not bad
pallid quiver
It's not that it's bad,
It's that it's not as good as it was said to be
spice radish
is kinda better tbh, coz it gives you more vers than lariat
tender cove
It just exists
fair enough
spice radish
i would say, if you dodge the cr wrists somehow, the vers wrist is the best embellishment
pallid quiver
i'm crit gang, too
spice radish
crit is fine, for low keys and raid
tender cove
I have exactly 704 vers rating xD
craggy pilot
I don't do keys high enough where shit matters whatsoever
what lvl would that be?
+24?
strong forum
Nah not yet
dense ledge
we did this on 24 btw
thx!
spice radish
and i think there is a crit haste neck in raid as well
craggy pilot
crit haste is where its at honestly
strong forum
900 haste
Like crit/haste is fine until any key level
Aslong as its your max ilvl
Playing well has infinitely more impact than stats
dense ledge
you have 2 rogues?
shroud should be back up for both skips unless your key is low and you are zooming through
spice radish
true, but crit will almost never save you
strong forum
Neither does vers
pallid quiver
Crit's more likely to save you than vers, tbh
wide charm
How does vers not save you ?
strong forum
Cuz all the situations where vers is better than crit, is where you need to use CDs to survive
spice radish
you dont die to melee hits, you die to bleeds and magic
strong forum
If you don't pop the CD you're dead either way
wide charm
Makes you not die of certain oneshots
pallid quiver
How does vers not save you ?
Damn, if only I took 1% less damage, I would've lived this hit 🙂
wide charm
Damn, if only I took 1% less damage, I would've lived this hit 🙂
Ok and with 20% vers ?
wide charm
So ?
tender cove
If you don't pop the CD you're dead either way
just curious, does the more dps from crit factor into killing shit faster and thus taking less damage? Or is negligible since its only your own dps?
spice radish
10% is half an external
pallid quiver
just curious, does the more dps from crit factor into killing shit faster and th...
Crit gives parry
spice radish
and its perma
strong forum
Go 1 keylevel higher and all of your "only lived cuz of vers" is gone
pallid quiver
Which is a 100% damage reduction on any hit it mitigates
tender cove
Crit gives parry
What?
patent osprey
Go 1 keylevel higher and all of your "only lived cuz of vers" is gone
1 key level matters
weary saddle
today is wierd. in COS, I repeatedly get enforcer spawning on top of me, at the same time i am battling the mini-boss (eye guy, and shockwave dude), this previuously never happened before., am i doing something wrong
strong forum
The absolute use case for vers is "died despite correct play"
strong forum
And on dps obv cuz they are infinitely more subject to get 1shot by aoes
spice radish
with crit you mitigate by parrying hits that wont even hurt you
pallid quiver
Not sure what the what's about
tender cove
... Crit gives parry?
yeh, im aware, its been a thing for years, what does it have todo with my question?
patent osprey
#VerseLivesMatter
spice radish
like who cares on a prot war if you gonna parry a 10k auto attack
strong forum
What unavoidable magic dmg is there besides very few bosses
pallid quiver
yeh, im aware, its been a thing for years, what does it have todo with my questi...
It's part of the defensive component, as well as the damage component. It's all in the stat together
strong forum
That is only on tank
wide charm
What unavoidable magic dmg is there besides very few bosses
Ever heard about bleeds ?
void marten
i dont do high keys like most of you guys, i've just finished my first 20s and i'm sitting comfortably at 2.6k rio, but the only thing that hurts me in keys are either bleeds or magic damage which crit doesn't help
tender cove
It's part of the defensive component, as well as the damage component. It's all ...
I more meant since crit gives more dps than vers. but maybe was an odd question that sounded worthy to ask in my head, its late xD
pallid quiver
I'm not sure what the specific intent behind your question is, Freak, sorry
strong forum
Both are bosses
spice radish
sometimes you have to take a hit , and tank something you can avoid so you maximize the dmg of the group
what you say about parry and crit is just stupid
wide charm
That are unavoidable
AA, RLP, NO come to mind immediately
spice radish
and correct play is always the play that maximizes the damage and the quality of the group
not the one that makes you take less damage
pallid quiver
Correct play is you guys all not getting hit by things you can avoid, but
spice radish
thats just maths and theory which is way different that real life
strong forum
I'm absolutely going by practical use here
craggy pilot
That are unavoidable
you can avoid them by having Evoker 🤣
limber flame
just be dwarf
wide charm
You can avoid them by not playing the game also
strong forum
AA, RLP, NO come to mind immediately
And you use CDs for all of them
craggy pilot
sadge, went in LFR and lost all 3 tier piece drops :<
craggy pilot
And you use CDs for all of them
which bleed in NO?
spice radish
like there is only 1 warrior playing crit right now over vers
strong forum
Last boss
craggy pilot
oh P1
wide charm
which bleed in NO?
Last boss
craggy pilot
when we cant reflect 😄
spice radish
taht warrior flops on every mechanic that crit doesnt help
strong forum
M8
10% DR isn't gonna make you magically survive ebeyrhting
You're putting a bit too much trust into that
Yes vers is good
craggy pilot
i was in an AA today, and got no bleed from the Battleaxes, is it just cus my DPS was stunning it? 🤔
wide charm
No but will help you
void marten
why are you pulling it to the edges tho
strong forum
But it's not the end all be all solution
limber flame
crit gangf
void marten
10% won't save you from everything, but it'll help you with the things that other stats cant help
craggy pilot
i stand still fine with 4% vers 🤔
every time i die its because misplay, not because of vers
spice radish
the crit>vers is a personal and selfish play
strong forum
I've never said that
spice radish
it works in raid
strong forum
That crit is better
tender cove
This is so interesting to me. We have people with experince saying one thing and the math wizard saying one thing. I dont like when the parents fight xD
spice radish
and content that damage intake is irrelevant
wide charm
That crit is better
You said vers makes you tank less than c’est
pallid quiver
This is so interesting to me. We have people with experince saying one thing and...
but the math wizard has experience, too, and people are trying to argue points that aren't made
craggy pilot
This is so interesting to me. We have people with experince saying one thing and...
we already know that people with experience doesnt neccesarily mean they are good at the game 🤣
wide charm
Crit *
spice radish
would rather take 100x10k hits than 1x1000k hit
and that goes in every content of the game
pallid quiver
People took your statement of "Vers won't save you" as "It's complete useless in comparison to our GOD AND SAVIOR CRIT"
tender cove
but the math wizard has experience, too, and people are trying to argue points t...
im not qualified to be in this discussion tbh.
patent osprey
I've said that you can do crit/haste in all levels of keys
U can do Haste/Mastery in all levels of keys
craggy pilot
People took your statement of "Vers won't save you" as "It's complete useless in...
🤣
strong forum
Yes
wide charm
Where have I said that
Okay my bad, but that is the feeling I was getting
craggy pilot
Vers nerds get real butthurt real fast
strong forum
You can do that aswell
warm plinth
Yeah idk about you guys but taking 360k instead of 400k is an absolute gamechanger 🙄
patent osprey
U can do Mastery Crit 🙂 in all level of keys
strong forum
Eeeh
pallid quiver
ill take mastery crit if it gives me more str, thank you
craggy pilot
U can do Mastery Crit 🙂 in all level of keys
just do Mastery Mastery
strong forum
Haste is a huge factor
void marten
this is semantics tho isn't it, from what you said if on all the situations where vers is better than crit you'd need to pop cds anyway, it makes vers worse than crit
strong forum
But am I wrong with what I said
pallid quiver
this is semantics tho isn't it, from what you said if on all the situations wher...
The main argument of that point is, still vers won't save you
It'll help
wide charm
But am I wrong with what I said
Yes
spice radish
warrior will never die to auto attacks, thats just how the class works with block
warm plinth
So you're saying there's a situation where 10% DR from vers will save you and prevent you from needing a CD @wide charm?
craggy pilot
then you dont even need vers
void marten
But am I wrong with what I said
I can't say you are objectively wrong or right, but from my personal experience literally the only damage i take is either bleed from random mobs that I can't or won't kite due to boon/other stuff etc. or some magic damage shenanigans
spice radish
lets do 5 x 25 keys in order to get that 1 rng that you gonna parry the bleed that would kill you
wide charm
So you're saying there's a situation where 10% DR from vers will save you and pr...
Yes
pallid quiver
That's a fucking hot ass take if I've ever seen one
void marten
so from my point of view if
stat 1: helps me do more damage but doesn't help me at all with the stuff i have hard time to begin with
stat 2: probably worse on paper but helps me on my weaknesses
i would choose stat 2 wouldn't i?
strong forum
I can't say you are objectively wrong or right, but from my personal experience ...
Yes but in those situations you're not barely scraping by either when you survive
craggy pilot
What situation is that
bro Savage Peck in AA does 970k dmg, if you have 10% vers you totally survive that
strong forum
Like, it's not like you scrape by by 2% hp
craggy pilot
on a +25
wide charm
Idk your healer is overwhelmed, you have basically 10% more hp to live a pack, or a bleed will take maybe 1 more tick to kill you
strong forum
And you survived a mistake because of vers
That's incredibly unlikely
It helps, but it's not a sole factor you'll survive
warm plinth
Idk your healer is overwhelmed, you have basically 10% more hp to live a pack, o...
Why didn't you use a CD if your healer is overwhelmed?
strong forum
All im saying is people put too much emphasis on it
warm plinth
That's a gameplay mistake
wide charm
Why didn't you use a CD if your healer is overwhelmed?
It’s in the name, CD
craggy pilot
It’s in the name, CD
saving CDs for when youre dead, i like it ❤️
warm plinth
He's saving them for next dungeon obviously
wide charm
So you have all your cds up 24/7 ?
void marten
i remember running out of cds several times tanking crawth haha
craggy pilot
"fuck healer is struggling, guess i needed more Vers, rather than popping my SW"
void marten
even with 2x shield wall
wide charm
What if you just used it
pallid quiver
So you have all your cds up 24/7 ?
you, uh, rotate your CDs in proper play
strong forum
Yes crawth is the extreme example
pallid quiver
So they're, like, up for when you need them
pallid quiver
Magically concept, I know
cursive prawn
"fuck healer is struggling, guess i needed more Vers, rather than popping my SW"
You misunderstood, he meant its already on cooldown
safe moon
whats our best gems for lariat?
pallid quiver
You misunderstood, he meant its already on cooldown
then, like, you fucked up?
wide charm
You misunderstood, he meant its already on cooldown
He didn’t try to understand *
pallid quiver
Or there wasn't enough DPS?
warm plinth
Extreme examples don't prove something is wrong or right; it just proves the extreme example is extreme.
craggy pilot
You misunderstood, he meant its already on cooldown
there are other CDs though
his point was Vers would save you from having to use a CD in some cases
void marten
Yes crawth is the extreme example
i wasn't giving it as an example for why vers is better, i was trying to tell that you can run out of cds to other people haha
i don't think anyone should gear around crawth anyway
pallid quiver
you can, like, demo shout
or D Stance
Or use Healing potions
or IV
or LS
strong forum
Yes absolutley fair
wide charm
Extreme examples don't prove something is wrong or right; it just proves the ext...
This discussion has no use outside of extremes cause as said just play mastery crit in keys and you’ll be fine
pallid quiver
But people are taking the extremes as the status quo and spouting it everywhere
warm plinth
Then why are you guys so fucking hellbent on putting vers on a pedestal if by your own words, it's for niche cases
ripe whale
hmmm still dont know if i should go 418 shield vers proc shield or frostfire belt
wide charm
I don’t even have high vers, I’m just not a lunatic saying vers won’t save you from dying
craggy pilot
hmmm still dont know if i should go 418 shield vers proc shield or frostfire bel...
vers proc shield is not good
pallid quiver
I have not seen a single log from any player, regardless of key level, where vers was the single thing that saved them from dying
craggy pilot
make the regular shield
pallid quiver
So until I see that, it's lunacy to say otherwise
void marten
why are you guys so heated, this is a platform to discuss our opinions and experiences isn't it? probably nobody will change their mind, which is fine tbh
craggy pilot
I have not seen a _single_ log from _any_ player, regardless of key level, where...
how would you even look for that though?
strong forum
hmmm still dont know if i should go 418 shield vers proc shield or frostfire bel...
The vers proc is nothing special
Cuz the overall stats arent able to be chosen
pallid quiver
how would you even look for that though?
Look for when HP got low, track incoming damage abilities from there, and do the math
strong forum
You're better off with the vers bracers if you want that effect
It's 100% uptime on 1%
craggy pilot
@ripe whale
void marten
versa shield was my first craft and i regret it a lot
limber flame
bracers also crit/haste
void marten
pvp helm was 2nd and i can't even wear it right now due to tier set
it's not a good life
limber flame
the superior stat distrub
torpid fiber
Anyone else find the overall skill of pugs in keys dramatically lower this season? It honestly feels like a miracle that most of them don’t drown when it rains.
ripe whale
make the regular shield
my two choices are going to result in decent Ilvl jumps to. but i think shield with no embelishment would give me more survivability than the belt will even though the belt is a 23 ilvl jump and the shield is a 16 ilvl jump
craggy pilot
my two choices are going to result in decent Ilvl jumps to. but i think shield w...
ye shield is kinda huge
strong forum
Keys are extremely healer dependant in DF
Much more than in SL and bfa it feels like
limber flame
just lots of stuff for healer to do now
pallid quiver
Anyone else find the overall skill of pugs in keys dramatically lower this seaso...
There's a lot of factors that can go into that feeling, from being a new xpac so there's more players, to keys being with a higher cap so people feel the need to push higher than they did prior, to different dungeon designs/feelings
strong forum
Which is what makes pugging keys a nightmare in the mid range
Pugging on high end is more tolerable
But still a gamba
warm plinth
The base requirement for healers is higher, which means you have a lot less room for them to carry shitty pugs that stand in everything
Makes keys feel a lot rougher
pallid quiver
My biggest issue with pugging has constantly been people managing to pull mobs I didn't even think it was possible to pull
ripe whale
anyone know how much damage the belt does over a key? give or take. i know fangs does only like 1.2% of my damage (66.65mil total it did 1.07mil
limber flame
im still getting in pugs in the 19-20 level where dps just ripping their stops on pull or just randomly dr the mobs
mobs arent even doign anything, good time to aoe stun
strong forum
anyone know how much damage the belt does over a key? give or take. i know fangs...
All embellishments are ~1% (400-600)dps
torpid fiber
That all makes sense. It’s just rough going from timing keys over twenty with little issue to groups managing to brick 15s
limber flame
the duality of pugging
strong forum
It's a fresh season
People haven't done these keys for 2 full years
S2 won't be any different for pugging
Most average players won't ever learn all mechanics of these keys
pallid quiver
The amount of times I have to tell people about mechanics they should actually be dealing with would be instant red-flags if they were trying to apply for dedicated high key push groups
strong forum
It's still early
All the good players are doing their 20s for vault and log off, or are pushing keys already
limber flame
at this point in pugs im insta clearing the thundering off someone
strong forum
Yeah
limber flame
aint even dealing with the dps running 40 yrds from me
summer surge
Anyone using Unstable Frostfire Belt?
limber flame
if it aint last boss of AV that buff is nonexistent to me
strong forum
What about frostfire belt
summer surge
Is it worth crafting even though its crit/mast?
strong forum
If you have access to the fire rings from raid, yes
Otherwise, it's not better or worse than other embellishments
tender cove
why are you guys so heated, this is a platform to discuss our opinions and exper...
Tribe mentality, pretty common.
summer surge
If you have access to the fire rings from raid, yes
It's not an embellishment is it?
summer surge
Oh, doesn't come up as one when crafting. Still counts as one though? ok
A lot about this crafting system I still don't understand
strong forum
All crafted items with special procs or effects
Are embellished
The only one that doesn't count as embellishment is the extended food buff
sick sentinel
is it through death though?, if food embellishment is, its worth it, longer buff not really, you die, no food buff, RIP
thats 15 seconds alone in a key, 5 for the death, 10 for the food
warm plinth
is it through death though?, if food embellishment is, its worth it, longer buff...
Yes, it's longer buff and persists through death.
dark lark
The food embellishment is worth it for keys alone
sick sentinel
i think food should be pesists through 3 deaths
warm plinth
Frankly it's not worth it right now though with how ridiculous the price is.
dark lark
All you need is gold
warm plinth
Food isn't exactly expensive either
dark lark
Time during a key can be
sick sentinel
no, but time wise its extremely expensive
thats also 10 seconds of travel movment speed lost
deep spruce
Worth the 100k for the QoL improvement
warm plinth
I would argue that the time difference between eating food to refresh it and just continuing on without the food buff is probably insignificant.
If it was more affordable, sure, why not
But not paying 100k just so I can have a food buff the whole run
sick sentinel
I normally level up cooking, haven't looked at cooking learnding points yet
strong forum
It was worth a few weeks ago when people didn't know it didn't count as embellishment
When it was only a couple K
But now it's ludicrously expensive
Not worth it
sick sentinel
way back in BFA, i would stuff the guild bank full of literal hundreds of stacks of food buffs
dark lark
But not paying 100k just so I can have a food buff the whole run
God damn it's 100 on yours?
It's 30k on hyjal US
warm plinth
Yeah, it's 100k on my realm
dark lark
Sorry bud
warm plinth
Or was the last time I looked a couple days ago
warm plinth
Alchemical Flavor Pocket
dark lark
My only issue with it is I'm out of sparks lol
Did lariat, vers bracers, and 2h for raid
warm plinth
warm plinth
It's 30k on hyjal US
Looks like it should be that price on your realm as well? underminejournal lists it as a commodity which means it's region-wide.
sick sentinel
what slot can the food buff go on
dark lark
Looks like it should be that price on your realm as well? underminejournal list...
I guess the price jumped, last I checked which was last week it was 30k
Guess I'm just wrong
sick sentinel
i wonder what about engineer helm
warm plinth
Yeah, it skyrocketed because people realized it was not counting as an embellishment
Tinkers are not embellishments, so probably?
warm plinth
It'll drop eventually. It's just stupid that the only source is the community feast seemingly
tame sleet
where to tank kurog after he has all 4 altar buffs? in middle?
sick sentinel
Yeah, it skyrocketed because people realized it was not counting as an embellish...
remember; the trend is your friend around the bend until the end, or more loosely, be a bit more bearish since its seems so spikey movement regarding food buff prices if like you wanna make money on it
you will be able to flip it for a time, but it will crash or get flooded eventually once ppl figure out a farm to it
dapper shuttle
where to tank kurog after he has all 4 altar buffs? in middle?
What difficulty? Heroic/norm he should be dead into the 4th or before if dps is high enough
warm plinth
I thought about buying one when it was 10k but I had no idea how crafting even really worked at that point so I didn't bother
dapper shuttle
you will be able to flip it for a time, but it will crash or get flooded eventua...
Isn’t it locked behind the weekly quest for the feast tho?
sick sentinel
i can easily see people leveling up muliple alts and doing cooking on each toon to farm it
to make gold
dapper shuttle
Yea that’s true
sick sentinel
thats one of the very first things i thought of
dapper shuttle
That sounds so miserable lol
warm plinth
Why cooking? What does that have to do with it?
sick sentinel
you only need 3 things, 4, AH, mailbox, cook fire/trainer
and then its okay, craft 200 fish sticks
doesn't your cooking lvl play a factor in how the tuskar soup is done? you would think at least it would work like that
warm plinth
I don't think so. The quest is just to complete 5 tasks at the feast
Which are given to everyone
sick sentinel
oh, so they just have to be alts even and get really lucky
warm plinth
Basically, yeah
tender cove
Worth the 100k for the QoL improvement
Think i paid 3k for it xD
warm plinth
why would you say something so mean 😭
tender cove
why would you say something so mean 😭
haha. Lets just say my alts dont have it and won't be getting it either :p
weary python
If I start training my ruby whelp, what should I focus on?
warm plinth
Probably the ST nuke
weary saddle
I started spamming COS. Coz... you know u guys got me on whetstone dreams
tender cove
I started spamming COS. Coz... you know u guys got me on whetstone dreams
Having fun?
warm plinth
I started spamming COS. Coz... you know u guys got me on whetstone dreams
Are you trying to say you're having whet dreams
see what i did there
tender cove
no, what did you do?
warm plinth
Nvm Freak, I'll explain when you're older 😂
weary saddle
whetstone talk all of past week
tender cove
Nvm Freak, I'll explain when you're older 😂
ouuff, you get points for that one hahah
weary saddle
COS is harder with pugs. its hard to pull off some of the timesaving stunts without talking
tender cove
there is some addon that spams it pretty good
i dont have it but someone always does
weary saddle
btw fortified the eyeball miniboss is pretty fierce.
floral stream
anyone know if explosives can be hit with Titanic Throw next week?
warm plinth
anyone know if explosives can be hit with Titanic Throw next week?
If you target them, you can. If you don't, then no.
floral stream
titanic throw targets 5 random enemies
but it wont target them?
since it isn't AOE
floral stream
Boo.
vale schooner
So, revenge and thunderclap won't work on explosives?
warm plinth
Correct
vale schooner
Let's throw axes then 😄
tender cove
what about titanic throw
it has a 3 second cd and doesn't work unless you target it, which defeats the talent.
slender wedge
What effect should we use for the dragon ruby shell
i think for m+ the aoe dmg one
ruby whelp shell*
frozen silo
do we take spell block in AV?
tender cove
How do i update weakauras without them moving positions? Only some of them seem to have the toggle "size and position"
super frustrating having to move and replace for every single freaking wa I update xD
tulip kelp
I just failed my 20 cos cause had two brain deads.. insane how many bad people there are even with 2800 io
414 warlock did 58K overall lmao
sick sentinel
Thankfully they have the perfect and marvelous you to carry them to victory
tender cove
I just failed my 20 cos cause had two brain deads.. insane how many bad people t...
how do they even get there? boosts?
Im trying to get my 2400 for upgrades and its just tiny point here, tiny points there. Shouldn't they have learned by now, must be a fair amount of runs to reach that score, no?
whats the most embarrassing thing you've guys done in wow?
Mine has to be changing my burst macro to exclude /use 13 (decrotation, having it on own keybind), didnt find it very useful and switched back...but forgot to add trinket to the burst macro...So been running around, not using grief torch a single freaking time lol... With runs having 10-20 deaths. Imagine the dps loss xD
cedar trench
lone eagle
Thoughts on Rumbling Ruby in keys?
Don't see it talked about much, but the mix of AP and the AoE seem good enough for keys
tender cove
Thoughts on Rumbling Ruby in keys?
since fix its pretty strong ye
lone eagle
What was fixed about it?
tender cove
there is just better trinkets
tulip kelp
Thankfully they have the perfect and marvelous you to carry them to victory
Bro I suck but running from ghosts into extra mobs, not jumping and dying to lockdown, doing 58K as 414 and not stunning mobs is cringe af for someone at 2800
tender cove
What was fixed about it?
something about the shockwaves not hitting or triggering, cant remember
lone eagle
ic
Bloodmallet not everything but it seems to sim really well for 5 target patchwerk
sick sentinel
Bro I suck but running from ghosts into extra mobs, not jumping and dying to loc...
You know what's also cringe as fuck.
lone eagle
Do the stacks decay out of combat?
Don't have one but on next M Terros rekill could probably luck into one
warrior has dogwater trinkets; 402 Eranog trink and 415 Hunger of the Pack
tulip kelp
I’ve always heard it was pretty top trinket for M+
tender cove
I’ve always heard it was pretty top trinket for M+
I've had it in my bags for ages. Just assumed (from all the talk and questions here) that whetstone/grief is king.
but maybe that was before when it was bugged?
dire matrix
would you upgrade blazebinders hoof to replace all-totem
idk if its worth
double on use is z
got 415 whet rnb
lone eagle
Blazebinders feels like a sim trap
Routinely underperforms for me
All Totem is pretty based
Has some defensive value and the haste bonus is something people forget about when calculating its value
tulip kelp
Plus passive great for QOL
tulip kelp
I know grief plus whetstone is great but I can’t handle the grief cast
lone eagle
I've had it in my bags for ages. Just assumed (from all the talk and questions h...
On Dungeon Slice it outsims Whetstone
for me
lone eagle
Was testing a few combos of 415 eranog v 415 whetstone v 415 Rumbling Ruby
tender cove
On Dungeon Slice it outsims Whetstone
Im doing 10 sims now. I'll report back
tender cove
Im testing, hoof, ruby, whetstone, grief, bigtoe
tender cove
i know bigtoe will be one of them
dire matrix
toes no fun
wide pilot
for a 17av is it better to kill the frogs or kill the packs you wake up that are in stone then do the skip after the 2nd boss
dire matrix
id do the safer route
in a 17 your unlikely to find pugs coordianted enough for the harder pull
or even in a 20
wide pilot
feels like frogs are taking too long to kill this week
lone eagle
Personally I only do my version of the skip route now
dire matrix
entire room and aoe
lone eagle
But 17 depends entirely on how coordinated it is
dire matrix
or stairs +corridor and aoe
lone eagle
Stone guys are a meme on a 17
and you can basically stop them all yourself/survive any that get off
tender cove
Was testing a few combos of 415 eranog v 415 whetstone v 415 Rumbling Ruby
I got pretty different results. I did 3/3, 5/3, 10/3, 5/5, 10/10 targets/minutes. And then with lust and without on all of them.
lone eagle
On the 22 pug earlier, group sucked at doing... well, anything
And piercing shards definitely hurt
tender cove
Long as its 10 targets, doesn't matter duration, it says ruby and bigtoe
lone eagle
Interesting
tender cove
if you go down to 5 targets, it varies with some combos,
ruby/whetstone is a common on, get it in like 3 sims
lone eagle
Ruby perform better than expected overall though?
tender cove
much better, ill start using it for sure
lone eagle
Gives a little bit of AP too
Doesn't do that much for us since we're drowning in IP but
🤷
tender cove
if its 5 targets, it wants ruby + whetstone. If its 3 targets? it come down to lust, weather it prefers whetstone + hoof or whetstone+ grief
this leads me to believe, fortified weeks? probably want the big push with ruby and bigtoe and on tyr? you want the other combos
or maybe opposite since you pull bigger trash
but yeh xD
tender cove
Gives a little bit of AP too
should note that bigtoe is only 398 but i've had a 385 bigtoe that shows same results on 10 targets
cinder storm
anyone get a WA/Lua error that you cant press your buttons after dragonriding
tender cove
what does the error say?
cinder storm
I gotta get it again to go over it, normally I get it in outerworld but today I got it in nokgud
tender cove
I gotta get it again to go over it, normally I get it in outerworld but today I ...
try get buggrabber and bugsack
two addons to investigate lua errors in a nice format
tender cove
Gives a little bit of AP too
because ruby was overall so strong in every sim, i decided to run a new batch where I locked ruby as one trinket slot. Now all sims shows 5 target or below, whetstone + ruby. 10 targets and above? ruby + bigtoe
lust doesnt change results/combos anymore.
last mason
how much do people charge for insights
cinder storm
try get buggrabber and bugsack
ty, I ll give it a try
cinder storm
how much do people charge for insights
maybe 50k?
slender stirrup
looking for the highest dps spec i can get for prot warr any suggestions?
cinder nova
Never overloading another titan-forged node until they patch it
3 of 3 nodes I've been teleported not only to a node I've already mined
BUT IT WAS THE SAME NODE I WAS AT
cinder nova
Define successful
mighty valley
took me to a different location with one or more other nodes
vernal vale
Titan overload is bait. Just do hardened and fire since they get you extra resources
mighty valley
but i mean, even just clicking the overload gives you a decent amount of Order so it's not too bad even if the teleport fails
vernal vale
Titan teleport just feels bad
astral bane
is there some trick to deal with the adds on the 2nd floor of RLP? i.e. Fire elemental's inferno skill
in higher keys 17+ and higher
topaz leaf
what's the plater mod called that shows enemies' cd for like dark claw?
mighty valley
interrupt as many cinderbolts as the group can, after they cast burning ambition stun and murder them, purge dancers when they're dying. basically keep everything you can under control since the healer already has a full time job with the elemental
slender wedge
Is the ruby welp trinket bad?
unreal sage
2nd and 3"rd i guess
sudden kindle
ive been using decoration + icon, but wasnt sure if wetstone was better
unreal sage
All totem of master is master piece in my opinion
He is doing around 5-6%dps for me, consider this is tank trinket which great buffs
sudden kindle
yea i dont have alltotem yet
sudden kindle
whispering incarnate icon
unreal sage
Icons are So similar
sudden kindle
they look similar yea
unreal sage
So i think 1st and 2nd
slim dove
totem + windscar.
gritty totem
what level of keys you running
warm plinth
Decoration and whetstone
weary python
Is All-totem of the master from Kurog any good?
warm plinth
For keys it is
weary saddle
7 runs of COS no whetstone
full venture
i have my 418 lariat and 415 frostfire belt. what should i craft next ?
cinder nova
Unless you have a very weak slot, nothing really.
weary python
7 runs of COS no whetstone
I'm up to ~20-25 w/o a whetstone
weary python
i have my 418 lariat and 415 frostfire belt. what should i craft next ?
Weapon or shield
full venture
405 wep and my shields 411
cinder nova
Then maybe a weapon.
full venture
im still using assembly ring
full venture
yeah like 3-4% ov
cinder nova
Honestly, though?
I'd sell my sparks.
Lots of craftsmen can't get near cap and don't want to spend their sparks making junk gear just to upgrade.
storm apex
This might be a dumb question, but in the spell reflect spreadsheet does "Blockable with Spell Block" mean that it can have its dmg reduced with Spell Reflect? Or does it mean it dodges the whole spell?
cinder nova
Gotta read the entire spreadsheet.
Also helps to read talents.
We have a talent called Spell Block.
It lets us block - as in Shield Block - spells.
We normally cannot.
storm apex
I was looking for a spell like that, but i cant find it haha
cinder nova
It's an extra defensive we can employ versus damage that could otherwise be fatal, but it's pretty niche so it's used selectively. Usually we use it for massive (and I mean MASSIVE) magical damage that we otherwise lack ready answers to or is frequent enough that we need another CD in the rotation.
prisma crane
what safety component do i want on the res bracers if im already an engineer?
since i dont need the malfunction one
cinder nova
It's on the same node as Tough as Nails iirc.
cinder nova
R e a d y o u r t a l e n t s
unreal sage
For which dung are you taking shield blocka?
coarse gust
whats everyone thinking best buff for ruby trink for prot warrior is?
cinder nova
The worst habit you can have is just copy-pasting builds without knowing them. Take the time to place each node in a build and READ what each node does so you can get an idea of how it all fits together.
unreal sage
Im going for it on totjs and burials ground
cinder nova
Giving someone a finished puzzle doesn't teach them how to complete the puzzle.
Putting together the puzzle does.
I haven't needed it on SBG, but I've only done an 18 tyr
And an 18 Fort
peak bramble
Temple and rlp are good candidates
cinder nova
I can see AV. Obnoxious amounts of magic.
cinder nova
I loved finding out that Searing Blows is a bleed 🙃
unreal sage
Wow So we can go on tyranical week for that talent which is removing bleeda?