protection

[weary saddle]

hows that possible

[dusk hinge]

its working dont ask me

[lyric geode]

Does he have shield?

[weary saddle]

naked pwar is dead pwar

[lyric geode]

Also, one question.

[dusk hinge]

shield weapon neck fingers and trinkets, everything else is unequipped

[lyric geode]

Well to be honest

[dusk hinge]

https://gyazo.com/872939e0ef2345584c01885f18d8c18c

his gear

[lyric geode]

Tank damage from CoS is a joke.

[dusk hinge]

sure but still he has only 200k hp and legit no armor

[lyric geode]

True true

[tender cove]

Show me a stream of you doing it with that gear.

ohh you cant?

[dusk hinge]

naowh is just insane I dont know

[lyric geode]

It doesnt mean that it isnt remarkable.

[dusk hinge]

he is taking less dmg with no armor than me with 405 in 18s XD

[limpid anchor]

You saying that naowh is just that good?

[tender cove]

kinda yeh and this is the type of shit that will get warrior nerfed

[lyric geode]

I still dont understand why he plays his dk

[limpid anchor]

Dk is really good atm

[lyric geode]

I want to believe that bdk is a dead spec.

[oblique garnet]

Its almost like all warrior needs is good shield

As long as the damage is blockable rest doesnt mean as much

[lyric geode]

I mean, given that SL bdk was a beast. To feel like karmic, i want bdks to be monk tier shit.

[broken tusk]

doesn't block + IP mitigate most physical damage anyway

[ionic fern]

There's a issue tho.

[broken tusk]

armor is just more of a bonus

[ionic fern]

Naowh is playing with top tier DPS'ers.

Doubt you can pull it off with your random pugs doing 40-50k overall.

🙂

[lyric geode]

I did 40k overall. But it was low key with battle stance up all the time.

[cerulean urchin]

brother he's still 200 ilvl thats SL lol

and he's living

[oblique garnet]

hes pugging and his dps are not good

[ionic fern]

Ok, that's on me - i don't watch streams. I just thought he's playing with his usual group.

[lyric geode]

Usually I am 35k

[cerulean urchin]

no he's full pug group

[dusk hinge]

thats right x) his Hunter cant even BL XD

[ionic fern]

Well, just looking at my last +20 cos.

[cerulean urchin]

Hunter doest even have BL pet

[ionic fern]

I had 5k EHRPS.

[dusk hinge]

he will fcking time this 20+ COS what the hell x)

[ionic fern]

So atleast he chose the right dungeon for it.

[oblique garnet]

smartly skipping the one mob that can actually kill him

[dusk hinge]

I told him to do my 20+ TJS 😉 dont think he will do it hehe

[limpid anchor]

He might die to the last boss tho

[dusk hinge]

i dont know

[oblique garnet]

why

it does no damage

[dusk hinge]

pally can pump him, others dont take that much dmg

[oblique garnet]

all you have to do is avoid

[limpid anchor]

Idk heal depended

For the aoe thing

[dusk hinge]

well the pulsating dmg is not avoidable

[limpid anchor]

Actually nvm

[ionic fern]

The pulsating does 0 damage tho.

[tropic cobalt]

Where do you guys get your M+ routes from?

[limpid anchor]

Shouldn’t be an issue

[limpid anchor]

My smart brain

[dusk hinge]

with enough stamina it does no dmg, yes

[oblique garnet]

he is perma sitting on dstance

[topaz leaf]

How do you live last pack though

[oblique garnet]

he will not die to last boss

[ionic fern]

You will also have IV for pretty much all of them.

[dusk hinge]

he depleted it x)

[limpid anchor]

What was the issue?

[valid terrace]

no kicks

[limpid anchor]

Buff war

We need more kicks :(

[dusk hinge]

spell reflect dark claws and stun them if you cant, then you get no dmg

last pack is skill check

[amber siren]

Rotate CD's, take spell block, kite if needed

[dusk hinge]

spell block is legit a life safer for TJS

[blazing condor]

just send whatever you can to ensure you live

you dont need shit for last boss

[weary saddle]

I know I am going to loot Whetstone from COS tonight. I can feel it. You know. The Friday 13th feeling.

[topaz leaf]

Thanks guys.

[limpid anchor]

Np

[toxic pewter]

spell block is amazing

[sudden gazelle]

Quick question; does anything really change for tanks in Raszageth from normal to heroic?

[flat jackal]

Do the champions (the first pack in halls) use a frontal or an out rangeable tank buster?

[limpid anchor]

No

Only that there are 2 grps on the 3rd platform, so every tank has to tank

[sudden gazelle]

thanks!

[granite leaf]

hey guys does anyone know how to get cooldowns like Dark Claws showing on enemy nameplates?

have seen streamers with it

[cosmic fractal]

"Spell CDs on nameplate"

[granite leaf]

https://wago.io/B-saNwgCJ this one?

[cosmic fractal]

Yup, was unsure if I could link 🙂

[granite leaf]

thanks 🙂

[solemn aspen]

for last pack of tjs, you can make them cast dark claw at the same time so SR >stun> SR again

[sullen drift]

should i craft shield with armor spikes or nah?

[dusk hinge]

can you destroy an crafted item to get the spark back? no right ?

[whole sapphire]

No

[sudden gazelle]

About to tank Broodkeeper heroic adds for the first time, anything i should know?

Only tanked the boss before

[solemn aspen]

3 eggs hurt

[sudden gazelle]

#healerproblem

[topaz leaf]

It won't reflect all of the dark claws right?

[solemn aspen]

it will if they cast at the same time

[vale wraith]

add spawn locations

[sudden gazelle]

thanks!

Anything important to interrup?

[ionic fern]

Adds spawn - go there.

That's about it.

[topaz leaf]

Didn't know. That's cool.

[vale wraith]

There are some interrupts but you should have them covered with the melee group

[sudden gazelle]

alrighty

[whole vortex]

Some adds have nasty stunning frontal, move away

[rough egret]

Hey chads any shield crafter here? 🙂 twisting nether

[untold notch]

Yo i have a question about Impending Victory. In m+ i noticed that not all kills resets its cooldown. Do i need to have killing blow on the target or what are the conditions for it to reset?

[lofty widget]

killing blow yes

[formal mason]

If anyone has any tips for mythic kurog that'd be nice. Got spider down last night and about to start prog on Monday. Not 100% sure of the differences and both me and co-tank feel like we are going in blind

[paper nexus]

guys howling rune or ap for weapon?

[formal mason]

Howling, always

[dusk hinge]

well

naowh timed his 20+ cos naked

with 4:33 left

[real ocean]

Cool will do the same today. If we deplete I‘ll blame healer obviously.

[sterile stirrup]

With the news about ruby Shell which training would be best for prot? The haste proc or aoe/ST dmg proc?

[near notch]

Can you range the piercing shard cast from the fury’s in azure vault?

[median tulip]

There's a trick to getting them lined up; you either need to aggress all of them at the same time, or stun them so the casts line up correctly. The first is easy to do if you either Heroic Leap into the pack (so they all get hit by the landing), or you charge something else in the pack (not one of the things you are trying to line the casts of, because if you charge one of them they are aggressed a fraction of a second earlier than the rest)

[icy bane]

Just use your stops on piercing cast

[near notch]

I don’t have enough stops for 4 fury’s I’m just curious if ranging it is an option

[trim hill]

You can LoS it but the range is pretty much too high that you can’t

[near notch]

Okay cool thank you

[bright lion]

Now that we know more about whelp shell, do we know how we might want to train it for M+? damage or haste both seem good

[autumn marsh]

Im taking the damage proc on it

I have enough haste procs atm

[flint kelp]

There's no shot u have a good boss movement chart like this? or is this pic supposed to be boss movement to keep from the adds? (the arrows in the middle is making me doubt sorry XD )

[strong forum]

Still TBD

[vale wraith]

The boss one we used was a generic one as well, I'll try and find it give me a sec

[flint kelp]

mvp ty ❤️

[vale wraith]

This is the boss one

[amber siren]

Not make or break but the earth ele adds with the frontal cone cast has a travel time so don't run back in front of them once the cast ends immediately or you'll still get hit

Just wait like 0.5 seconds

[flint kelp]

Ty so much. I feel as tho im running around like a headless chicken with the boss XD this'll help alot! tyty

[uneven mason]

CRIT

[sterile stirrup]

Probably yes, may get some more juicy shield slam outburst crits 😄

[uneven mason]

Moar crit

[dull niche]

does anyone have a Shockwave 4fun build? I was trying to think of one but I'm having a brain fart.

[manic ridge]

Morning all. New prot here. one questions, all the builds put points into Rend but none of the priority lists show using rend anywhere in the rotation. ( Icy Veins). Should I be using rend before my thunder clap to spread it?

[dull niche]

No - TC spreads it

[atomic spoke]

Thunderclap applies Rend

[dull niche]

don't even need it on your bars

[manic ridge]

ahh, it dosent nee to be applid first?

[dull niche]

Nope

[manic ridge]

makes sense, thnx

[atomic spoke]

If you have Blood and Thunder talented that is

[hasty sapphire]

Does Spell Block work for the last trash pack in TJS?

[manic ridge]

ya, i do. I was wondering if that was 2 wasted points 😛

[uneven mason]

So, big advice, go through and read the talents. Don't just copy a build and press W, this is how we get warriors who use whirlwind

[real ocean]

Yes

[spring scarab]

Sometimes I like to use whirlwind...makes me feel like a beyblade

[blazing condor]

whatever makes you happy

[quaint folio]

I only do M+ content and don't raid, and I currently have the elemental lariat crafted. What should be the second item crafted? I see a lot of posts that it should be the unstable frostfire belt because it interacts with the raid rings, but I don't raid and don't have those. Should I still craft that or is there a better emblishment item?

[blazing condor]

do you have good wep/shield?

having a high ilvl shield is important

[quaint folio]

I should have probably linked my gear. I have a 405 crafted shield , and my belt is my lowEst ilvl item. https://raider.io/characters/us/scilla/Matrixrage

[plush gate]

do I want the AA or NO weapon? ppl keep telling me different things

[steel mist]

guys , has anyone noticed even though there are alot of prot warriors but the lack quality to tank the spec

[obsidian path]

Fotm is strong

[real ocean]

I wouldn‘t know I only tank and dont see other tanks

[obsidian path]

It attracts a lot of people

[blazing condor]

^

someone said we were s+++ tier so everyone and their dog wants to play pwarr

[obsidian path]

Well

[blazing condor]

and everyone is gonna be shit at it cus they have never played pwarr before because we've always been "f---" tier

[obsidian path]

Prot is strong AND fun

[steel mist]

thats why id rather pick BRm or dk these days

[obsidian path]

They should

[rough egret]

BfA was strong for pwar

[pale rock]

How would macro that casts ravager where is stand look like ?

[rough egret]

You want on cursor or at player?

[blazing condor]

meant for past couple of years

[pale rock]

Player

[obsidian path]

/cast [@heavy mirage] ravager ?

[rough egret]

#showtooltip Ravager
/cast [@heavy mirage] Ravager

Yeah

You can have modifier to make it cast on cursor if you want

I used to he it at cursor

[atomic spoke]

until you cast it on a roof or pillar

then ull change it to plauyer

[rough egret]

Probably

[west bronze]

newish tank question... how often are yall rolling around outside of defensive stance?

[rough egret]

All the time

[blazing condor]

99% of the time

[west bronze]

LOL

i feel so stupid.

[blazing condor]

unless im either a) taking hella damage

[wanton flax]

Are these really our best trinkets from m+? This is from Protwar wowhead guide

[blazing condor]

or b) i know im gonna be taking hella dmaage

[rough egret]

I didnt reach the point to be in DS yet

Also im a casual doing 15 range of keys atm 🙂

So i can go full gas no breaks

[toxic pewter]

Every prot warr I’ve seen in public is in defensive stance at all times

It’s really awkward to witness lmao

[sturdy sable]

Yeah its embarrassing

[toxic pewter]

Be at like 100% doing half my damage

[jagged pier]

i mean they arent doing anything wrong

there job is to mitigate as much damage as possible

and u do more in dstance

[brittle silo]

so you're telling me that I can humiliate dps even more by switching to dps stance?

[jagged pier]

like your even more busted in d stance tbh

[sturdy sable]

Oh here comes Jakey completely missing the sarcasm

[toxic pewter]

I only go d stance when I know big dam coming my way

[jagged pier]

apb

[rough egret]

Ofc @brittle silo

[jagged pier]

is

never

sarcastic

[toxic pewter]

Yah I can say grass is green and you’ll disagree with me

It’s awkward lmao

[brittle silo]

who needs dps players anyway

[blazing condor]

right now the grass out my window is white tyvm

[jagged pier]

i nearly agreed with you yesterday until it endup being a pug

[toxic pewter]

Yah that’s fair

I still stand by that entire experience

Lmao

[toxic pewter]

Noted

[real ocean]

Poor mage in my academy key recently was outdamaged by me.

[teal heron]

boys how do we train our dragon

what are we after

[rough egret]

AA so nice

Lots od big pulls

[blazing condor]

"big pumper 4set and bl" in note on mage

[spring scarab]

A dps left my group yesterday cause I wasn't holding agro on the spiteful spirit : )

[real ocean]

It is yea.

[strong forum]

LOL

[jagged pier]

LUL

[brittle silo]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[blazing condor]

[real ocean]

Mage Kekw

[real ocean]

I had lots of meeles recently trying to meele their own down and die. Than be like: bro

[brittle silo]

I'm pretty sure that there's a sweetspot that u can do that. At least I used to in SoD

[real ocean]

Probably. But if you die from it the 5th time maybe dont

[brittle silo]

Oh yea ofc, I'm trying to understand the reasoning over there

[amber siren]

Nope, the list just hasn't been updated since launch

[fierce ravine]

just intervene them

ez

and they cant kill themself

[uneven mason]

Is it me or is spiteful just not an affix?

[sour scroll]

What are the best Trinkets from M+ ?

[spring scarab]

: (

[blazing condor]

had a rogue get smacked to death twice (+1 cheat) on bonemaw cus "wtf i cant cloak this??"

[amber siren]

Whetstone

Uhh

Blazehoof or idol?

[fierce ravine]

😂 lil bro thought he could magic immune

[uneven mason]

Probably whelp and whet

[blazing condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/463452854389047297/1037281694211919923/3x.gif

[sour scroll]

Thanks

[amber siren]

I wouldn't say whelp yet

[uneven mason]

He wins on adorablness

[real ocean]

On that note we did a sbg 19 yesterday and bonemaw would not phase a single time. Anyone had that befire? Like we smacked him to like 50% until the first inhale. And submerge came at like 10%

[amber siren]

Big true tbh

[flat sorrel]

Is blazebinders as good as wowhead makes it out to be for us

[amber siren]

It's decent if all you can get for trinkets is M+ if you're not raiding

[deep spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/unitedgamer-thats-cap-gif-24065532

[brittle silo]

how about horn of valor tho? Huge flat versa and primary stat on use for bursts

[flat sorrel]

Well I have a 402 decoration and 402 rumbling ring however wowhead has it over both of them. Was just curious of everyone’s thoughts

[uneven mason]

Tbh the best trinket is the storm one from raid because I need a trinket that randomly nukes shit when I'm trying to mount in nokud

[amber siren]

If you're just wondering what does more damage, simming is an option

[uneven mason]

This tbh

[brittle silo]

naaah, more like flexibility and overall usability

[flat sorrel]

More so was just curious of what had the best overall benefits

[deft mortar]

did a RLP 19 was ez

[uneven mason]

But simc doesn't give you snarky but hilarious responses like skyhold

[deft mortar]

skipping drake ads is good idea

well the fiery drake ad*

[blazing condor]

yeah i skip that one too

and the pat after

not by choice but usually cus we've ninjad so many mobs already that we can

[deft mortar]

I dont skip the big golems b4 first boss

they are very ez tbh

I cleave them with other packs

[uneven mason]

What I wouldn't give for DPS who moved out of ground effect

[deft mortar]

i mean

xD

that must be some scuffed dps players

[uneven mason]

Pug life

[deft mortar]

I set increasing limits to rating/ilvl every week to pug ngl

otherwise its pain

ilvl wont matter as much tho now..

[slim dove]

tier > ilvl

look at # of completed 15+ keys

[deft mortar]

after jan 23 set wont rly be a good way to distinguish either

tbf at that point everyone will be able to do 20s easy so anyway

i didnt know u did any content besides pvp Varughh

[slim dove]

i do like 90% pve and que a solo shuffle once a day

[fluid shard]

thanks for this! actually started on her yesterday and didn't realize you could pop more than 2 eggs. this will help!

[fallen lichen]

how do you survive the shield of light on 2nd boss HoV? shield walled the first 2, third one one shot me thru def stance+spell reflect

[slim dove]

demo shout, spell block, last stand

[fallen lichen]

yea i usually jump straight to other side, maybe i should stay closer first so i can demo

[slim dove]

yeah just let her ping you over herself.

reflect is up for every shield of light, i think demo shout is also

[glacial skiff]

Anyone know how much haste you need to run into the fray vs HR to get 100% uptime on SB in keys?

[mental scarab]

36% i think

[uneven mason]

Go with 40 for safety

[glacial skiff]

40 with or wthout ittf?

[jagged pier]

without

[wild hemlock]

LOL

[glacial skiff]

wellll fuck im so far off

[uneven mason]

40% unbuffed

[jagged pier]

its always without

[glacial skiff]

i have 19% lmao

[uneven mason]

Literally run hr and not worry about it, iirc the DPS gain in m+ isn't huge

[glacial skiff]

i really wanna find a way to fit bloodborne into my talents

[slim dove]

its garbage, dont bother.

[jagged pier]

bloodborune is 1.5% damage

[wheat zenith]

how good is that shit? How much ilvl would you want to have on trinket in order to switch? Consider only m+ trinkets

[jagged pier]

per point

[uneven mason]

What's the opportunity cost

[jagged pier]

spell block

or tough as nails

and something else

u need to loose

to go 2 poitns into bloodbourne

its literally pointless

[uneven mason]

Was going to say unless you're moving defensive points only bb is a DPS loss

[oak echo]

And even then those defensive losses won't be worth losing unless you're doing smol content

[feral wing]

Wait are we not defaulting ITF over HR?

[rough egret]

HR makes SB up easy

[plush relic]

In raids, yes

[rough egret]

im 10% away from 40 :/

[toxic pewter]

I hate playing with ITF personally

[rough egret]

Why?

[feral wing]

Nah in keys I mean. I never played HR yet

[toxic pewter]

in raids its fine, just feel much better with HR in m+

[feral wing]

And I don’t have problems with uptime

[jagged pier]

logs.

[spark cedar]

in raids even without the haste 40% breakpoint?

[jagged pier]

yes

u always run ITF in raid

because u arent tanking all the time

[sick sentinel]

if im only doing up to 15s 16s whats point of logging

[blazing condor]

?

same as the point of everything

[toxic pewter]

I use HR/battering ram build in m+ personally

[blazing condor]

analyze and improve your play

[sick sentinel]

i think enough 9f that information gunna be dead front centre

[amber siren]

Up to you if you want to log or not, but better data is helpful

[spring scarab]

I'm playing around with builds, "one handed weapon spec", how important is that? Especially if I'm going into an aoe build

[blazing condor]

its good

[sick sentinel]

i dont see a point or guiding light in logging

[jagged pier]

its a must take talent

u dont drop it

for anything

[slim dove]

... its 5% dmg and 5% leech for one talent point

how is this even a question

[amber siren]

People are new, better to ask than assume

[spring scarab]

^

[sick sentinel]

i just doubt it will be useful to me, it could be useful to you guys, but if i play correctly ill be able to time 15 everytime right

[strange chasm]

no idea how to do av 18+ on pug w/o skip avg dps 65k and we miss 1m30sec

[amber siren]

I mean if you theoretically if you play correctly you can beat any content

[sick sentinel]

so, and if im not gojng beyond that,i say whats point of log, i wont be improving much past that

[amber siren]

Because data is helpful

[slim dove]

its an absurdly tight timer.

pull harder, do more dam

nothing else to it

[amber siren]

I'm not arguing you should log, it's entirely up to you

But there's a reason logging is helpful

[strange chasm]

only way to pull more is 1st ring

[idle valley]

Hey guys I'm new to the discord and had a question.
Was pugging VoI and got to grimtotem. Kept boss facing the wall. Dps kept dying to cone...they kicked me saying I was wrong.

Was I wrong?
Thanks for any advice.

[toxic pewter]

I timed Av 19 with pug. I don’t bother with skips either

[strange chasm]

but it is liek imp to get 3 packs

[toxic pewter]

I don’t bother with skips most of the time

I focus on the fundamentals

[plush relic]

No, the boss frontal isnt supposed to hit anyone else but the one tanking it

[strange chasm]

tyra or forti ?

[amber siren]

If he's facing the wall and they get hit by the frontal, they're in the wrong spot

[toxic pewter]

Skips in a pug always annoying to be honest

[strange chasm]

tyra is ok

[sick sentinel]

i just think a log is gunna be better suited to some gives a crap about improving

[strange chasm]

i cant fit time on forti

[sick sentinel]

i just want the stupid mount

[strange chasm]

is liek 5-6 try today 😦

[toxic pewter]

Is your dps doing good damage

[strange chasm]

~ total over 65k each

i did ~ 29k

[limpid anchor]

Nah, if people run in front it’s on them

[toxic pewter]

Your damage seems a bit low I think

[limpid anchor]

Unless you turn during the boss or some shit

[strange chasm]

ye it is

[idle valley]

@amber siren thanks. Was really confused as the RL flamed me o.o

[restive cypress]

Azure Vault's timer felt really tight for me. Did a +18 yesterday with every dps being 70k+ and still went overtime by about 19ish seconds... jdimsa

[strange chasm]

i play rly deff

no dps trinkets at all

[amber siren]

🤷 pugs gonna pug

[limpid anchor]

That’s bad

[strange chasm]

i mean i dont have any

i got seed 418 and 1st hc one

[spring scarab]

Okay fair, adding into that do you find sonic boom or thunderous words better?

[sick sentinel]

tw yes

[jagged pier]

thunderous words is more damage

[restive cypress]

Thunderous Words always

[sick sentinel]

sb no

[jagged pier]

and better

[spring scarab]

Ok thank you!

[jagged pier]

because our not using your utility as a dps cooldown

[strange chasm]

i need only 12 more points 😦 to be happy

[spring scarab]

Should I go into uproar as well then?

[idle valley]

@amber siren absolute truth.

[toxic pewter]

I think working to get your damage to at least 40k dps would help you a lot

[strange chasm]

ye i know i try but my logs are bad i try ddo proper rotation butthere is time i got all on cd and 0 rage

i play like 3.5 week

[toxic pewter]

Could be good time to practice on dummy

[strange chasm]

problem on dummy is static dont need to move ect

on m+ swaping target avoids ect and ... ye brain farts

i feel i panic to much

[lyric geode]

Well, i reached this breakthrough by swapping battle with defensive stance.

[toxic pewter]

yah the stances are critically important to our gameplay

[strange chasm]

i run 70% in battle

[lyric geode]

I am quite nervous about higher keys though. Also it feels like cheating.

[strange chasm]

my biggest problem so far

was rlp 17 tyra

i did it in tiem but 1st/2nd boss is like

[lyric geode]

The problem with battle stance is that it incentive you to get less big pulls and it gets generally less dps from your group overall

[amber siren]

Uhh

Definitely citation needed on that one

[toxic pewter]

I pull the appropriate amount for what the situation calls for even in battle stance

I am in battle stance a lot of the time like 95%

[lyric geode]

You pump more but dds pump less

[amber siren]

You're nearly never pulling based on what the tank can survive, it's what the party can survive

[toxic pewter]

I view defensive stance as basically a defensive cooldown

[strange chasm]

i think my best is academy i did 18 in time

[toxic pewter]

and I swap back as soon as possible

[strange chasm]

and i love tree trash

[amber siren]

There are opportunities where DS is good, no doubt, but it's not something to camp in

[strange chasm]

but still cos/sbg 19++

tjs on forti is omfg

only timer is good there

[lyric geode]

Ofc, since bird tyr is such a hassle

[strange chasm]

i hope i will hit 2500 today

[lyric geode]

After I do KSH, I will take a break from wow until next season.

[strange chasm]

i think after 2500 i will go eazy life and roll dh/rog

[uneven ice]

Hi! Which is the best place to sim?

[blazing condor]

Raidbots

[outer thorn]

what should your lariat uptime be? im using single stat gems to guarantee haste proc but im seeing about 25% uptime but when I look at other logs with multistat gems they sometimes seem to have a combined higher uptime

[strong forum]

30ish

[outer thorn]

might just be variance then

[strong forum]

Yes

You can low roll and have 18 and high roll and have like 38

Highest I've had was 43 lowest I've had was 18 iirc

On a raidboss

On longer encounters it'll obv average out much more evenly

[strange chasm]

1 more q if i may is prot war 4 set is a big deal ?

[noble glacier]

do you guys prefer sophic or frozen devotion?

[strong forum]

In m+, decently so, in raid not so much

[strong forum]

You can sim it, but the higher ilvl you have the better sophic becomes

Frozen devotion is better if you're not as good of a player

Cuz it doesn't depend on you pressing buttons well

[noble glacier]

thanks ^^

[trim hill]

I used to agree but tbh if you use spell block well and rotate stops/reflect/shield wall when it isn't up the trash is pretty easy (assuming your group kicks well)

[uneven mason]

That last trash pack is vile

[strange chasm]

i played more aggresive cos19 42k dps

[primal totem]

Hop scotch the claws as well. Makes a huge difference.

[sharp bone]

make sure your group or yourself desyncs the trash on the last pack, so not all beams and claws hit at the same time

[strange chasm]

ye

spell reflect

[quaint folio]

I thought you were supposed to sync the claws so that they get all deflected at the same time

[uneven mason]

Then the 2nd cast oneshot

[sharp bone]

on their first cast yeah but afterwards even with spellblock its pretty much ggs in higher keys

[uneven mason]

Tbh TJS makes me want to run IO

[tropic tangle]

if you get them synced up, you can use AoE stops when spell reflect is down

reflect 1, shockwave 2, I think you can reflect 3, int shout 4, etc

more options if you have group aoe stops

[mild river]

A question: the alchemy trinket is considered embellishment?

[fluid shard]

Hey I haven't really done this in the past but would anyone look at my Heroic Kurog log and tell me if they'd recommend something (it went well, just looking for input if anything stands out)? I've been looking around here for a while and listening to people's advice and think there's always room to improve!
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/fzFakCHMNpgqXmhw/self#fight=14,14&type=summary&source=3,-2

[uneven mason]

Does it have the embellishments flag

[fluid shard]

there's also a Dathea kill in there in case someone wants to look at it!

[ocean bloom]

you havew some pretty large gaps in shield block uptime, id reccoomend just using HR instead of ITF until you can consistently prevent these gaps

[fluid shard]

good point, i can't read logs super good but maybe this was when i wasn't tanking? it's an easy swap though, i'll try it next week

maybe i want SB up at all time anyway

i won't lie i'm trying to push damage a little 😅

[autumn urchin]

sb increases shield slam dmg by 30%

while its active

[fluid shard]

yep which is why i'll try better uptime, thx

[weary idol]

In the time line view under buffs I noticed that there are a lot of times you dont have IP and SB up.

[fluid shard]

oh that view is neat, can you zoom out while viewing it that way

[uneven mason]

Shield block big DPS gain

[autumn urchin]

if boss is on farm ip uptime is w.e. if he wants to push dmg

[weary idol]

With the 4 piece adding in IP it might help but it does not add on time so it might not help at all?

[uneven mason]

IP is an offensive spend

[autumn urchin]

yes you can also spend on revenge if gcds allow it

[uneven mason]

Does anyone read anger management

[autumn urchin]

lol

[weary idol]

Yes it shows a lot of data

[tropic tangle]

Or violent outburst

[uneven mason]

[autumn urchin]

looking at ip uptime =/= what you are saying

[uneven mason]

True

[autumn urchin]

however yes

both

[uneven mason]

But IP should be almost 100%

[autumn urchin]

also ur 2 set uptime is kinda low

@fluid shard

[fluid shard]

so, SB up i can fix that for sure, now another question, when i go to ressource tab, and look at rage. is that view a good indicator of if i wasted rage, i'm not sure i'm reading it correctly

[autumn urchin]

make a WA for it somewhere on ur screen if u dont already have one

[lofty widget]

yes, you overcapped 14 rage in that SS

which is good

[rugged mural]

Heroic Dathea - Anyone able to tell me what the initial taunt swaps look like? I thought it was just taunt at 3 and first tank goes up to platform, but second tank just got slapped despite us killing adds quickly

[lofty widget]

we swapped at 4 and it was np

[fluid shard]

with the nerfs you can tank 5 and it's still ok so not sure what is getting you slapped

[limpid anchor]

Just taunt on add spawn

You can’t really die to the slam

[untold crow]

Can you remove an embellishment from a crafted item?

[fluid shard]

one of the things we changed on our Dathea is now we switch immediately to add on main platform, instead of dragging the add to the edge, the knockback works at all range and you want to interrupt the platform big add asap.

preventing the add channel is the top prio on Dathea

[rugged mural]

Ok, not sure what happened then. Other tank was a pally and died twice to Zephyr Slam. L2P issue maybe

[fluid shard]

done! good point, thx

[primal totem]

How did you scale out on that? Cause that view is fantastic

[warm plinth]

Yeah just right click it on recraft

[untold crow]

Thanks!

[limpid anchor]

Yes

[craggy pilot]

ey boys, i caved in, what do i need to put in it

[wispy canopy]

gems

[swift siren]

Does 2p set change our prio´s? Let´s say I´m not rage capped and have bot SS and revenge available.

[limpid anchor]

Gratz on the bait neck

[swift siren]

Do I prio revenge to keep 2p up?

I´d think not

[craggy pilot]

ended up having no other choice 😄

since i want something that works for both Arms + Prot

and i already crafted Engi Wrist

would be ilvl waste to craft 418 Allied Wrist

[astral bane]

So i only have the elemental lariat, considering either the primal molten defender with armor spikes, or the frostfire belt.... what do you guys think?

[craggy pilot]

shield without armor spike + frostfire belt + lariat

is what im sporting now

[amber siren]

Realistically no, it just adds the buff as part of the ‘rotation’, you don’t need to min max it

[lusty tiger]

is 50% uptime on 2pc ok?

[craggy pilot]

kekw

[wispy canopy]

👀

[astral bane]

thats a good idea

[wispy canopy]

but i would recommend some hast vers or vers hast and a primary haste

[untold crow]

With the lariat and a haste verse gem, will it proc haste verse? Or haste or vers?

[weary idol]

Select timelines, then buffs

[inland mesa]

Counts as an air gem so procs haste

[untold crow]

Oh i see!

[tropic tangle]

haste vers gem is a frost gem

it will proc vers

if you want to only proc haste, you should gem with haste as the second lower stat

[brave jungle]

Is there a document or similar that says when it is suggested to run SB and when to run Intervene? Please @ me 🙂

[queen fulcrum]

It's over

[tropic tangle]

gz, you're free from prison

[queen fulcrum]

Now for Boots prison

[topaz leaf]

I swear to god I just had the most toxic CoS run. I had like the only stun for imps and everyone kind of expected me to miraculously solo the imps with one shockwave. Then someone ass pulls the second imps like 20 seconds after with shockwave on cd and they start flaming me for not stunning. Dear lord.

[lyric geode]

What is your best dungeon? Meaning from all m+ dungeons from Legion up to Dragonflight.

[frosty gulch]

That’s kinda cruel lol

[limpid anchor]

Should have jumped in first to reflect, second stun, third fear

100% enough to kill the imps

[craggy pilot]

damn son gz

how many runs?

[lyric geode]

People just as well to imps to damage them. Watch your team wipe. Experienced that.

[queen fulcrum]

Only 31 so not too bad

[craggy pilot]

jeez

im on 57 still no trinket

fml

[astral crystal]

Yeah ppl have no patience for the spell reflect tech on impa

[topaz leaf]

Team was too close, they casted at random.

[astral crystal]

Imps*

[mossy goblet]

Hey question
On halls of Valor, the shieldbreakers who cast mortal hew and breach armor
Are both frontal or just mortal hew
Been getting mixed responses

[astral crystal]

You can dodge both

[topaz leaf]

And in pugs can you really expect the tank to pull that off? I dunno.

[astral crystal]

Just back step on fast

[lyric geode]

People flame me that the strat is shit. Maybe they are shit.

[astral crystal]

Cast

[mossy goblet]

So should my melee be watching for frontal on breach armor?

[astral crystal]

Hew is a cone though

Small cone

[lyric geode]

We have a say in Greece. Either the boat sails wrong or the wing blows wrong.

[tropic tangle]

Can't remember if Breach is frontal cone, but Mortal Hew is what will slap your melee if they're stacking on you

[lyric geode]

Only mortal hew

[mossy goblet]

That's what I thought
So my melee are getting hit by breach armor well it still says I have threat
Anyone got a reason?

[gritty glen]

Mortal Hew is a cleave. Breach Armor is a single target debuff.

[feral wing]

Is breach armor a fervent?

[astral crystal]

A what

[lyric geode]

Breach armor doesnt affect your dds any way.

[blazing condor]

fervent strike

[tropic tangle]

hmmmm, it may be?

[feral wing]

I thought I spelled it wrong

[tropic tangle]

fervent = if tank is out of range, it hits someone in range

[blazing condor]

which mob does it?

[lyric geode]

Shieldmaster

[blazing condor]

in HoV?

[lyric geode]

Yes

[blazing condor]

not sure dont think so

but they do have frontals right?

HoV is like what ive done the least

[mossy goblet]

yeah mortal hew forsure is a frontal

[gritty glen]

Valarjar Shieldmaiden

[frosty mango]

Use heroic leap to strategically drop stacks of it if you want a more pug friendly approach

[mossy goblet]

but somehow my dmg dealers are getting hit with breach armor and ive been very confsued

[frosty mango]

Don't be confused. They're idiots. Very simple problem to spot.

Don't stand in front of mob. Ever.

[lyric geode]

Problem is people are clueless.

[mossy goblet]

but people are saying its not a frontal

[lyric geode]

Mortal hew is

[mossy goblet]

is it a frontal ?

[obsidian path]

I've been using boon of the storm-eater to get killed by the tank that side-steped next to me
I ate the next mortals

[mossy goblet]

yeah

im talking breach armor

[lyric geode]

Breach armor is not

[frosty mango]

Don't stand in front of the mob and then it's not a problem either way

[mossy goblet]

but its hitting my dd

they say it turns and smacks them

[lyric geode]

Aggro problem?

[mossy goblet]

it doesnt say ive lsot threat

thats why im confused

[lyric geode]

Hmm

No idea mate

[topaz leaf]

I was talking about the imps in CoS.

[amber siren]

The HoV frontals afaik are possible to get hit just by clipping into their model

It’s bigger than just don’t be in front

[warm plinth]

Breach armor isn't a frontal

[amber siren]

Just mortal hew right?

[warm plinth]

Yes

[potent anvil]

@strong forum I got better at bdk

[warm plinth]

Nice

[strong forum]

[fallow osprey]

Someone drop earth elemental? Could have turned mobs

[unkempt palm]

Nice 😎

[quartz briar]

Is that AA?

[potent anvil]

Yeah

[unkempt palm]

What dungeon you guys playing spell block on? TJS, AV, RLP, NO, SBG?

[frosty mango]

Oh, shockwave and clench butt

[pulsar sedge]

You can technically find a use for it on every dung but like.. NO?

[toxic pewter]

Honestly I run it in every dungeon at this point and I find some use for it

I love spell block

[unkempt palm]

@pulsar sedge yeah I’m thinking ele boss area and teera moruk area and even on last boss phase 3

@toxic pewter I’m leaning to the same honestly but wanted to see what people are doing here

[toxic pewter]

At high levels it helps smooth out a lot of magic damage

[pulsar sedge]

I dont think you are loosing a ton by swapping and loosing Tough as nails

[toxic pewter]

Yeah that’s the way I see. Don’t get me wrong I like tough as nails

But spell block is really good

[unkempt palm]

Ok so far I’m seeing similar thoughts to me then

[sick sentinel]

do you guys under pull first 2 bosses of TJS as well on fortified vs tyranical week?

[pulsar sedge]

Everytime i swap it off.. Im going "Damn, would be nice to have Spell block up to mitigate that dmg"

[sick sentinel]

still a pretty easy key level but i wiped use on a 12 rlp to pulling 3 mobs too many at start

[toxic pewter]

Those big water elementals I usually pull one at a time

[unkempt palm]

Yeah I kinda prefer spell block and just stay in bstance

[toxic pewter]

Can los them but i find they do a lot of dam

[sick sentinel]

so im having slight doubts about what is on my current routes

[unkempt palm]

@toxic pewter I think most of that damage is the small mobs using splash

[pulsar sedge]

Cant really mess up TotJS tho

[toxic pewter]

Yah true

[pulsar sedge]

Only thing i see people skipping is the panda bros

[toxic pewter]

Do you guys pull both water elementals at first full

[sick sentinel]

see, without knowing, i would because cooldowns

[unkempt palm]

Have you seen pulling them and lust for first pull? Saw that before and found it interesting for fort

[gaunt oar]

Missive for Lariat?

haste/vers?

[pulsar sedge]

I tend to single pull, but i just pug. They are kinda derpa on avoiding the aoe lol

[toxic pewter]

Yah exactly same

[pulsar sedge]

Ill tank right on a corner to make it ez pz.. they still take it to the face lol

[sick sentinel]

i would pull 2 water guys togethger

dead start of tjs

[toxic pewter]

It’s sort of personal pref a lot like haste vers. Some enjoy haste crit

[sick sentinel]

on an average keyt

[trim hill]

In my experience people always fuck up the los so not worth

[pulsar sedge]

If i had a good group, maybe. But the dmg is huge if people arent LoS the pops

[trim hill]

You don’t need to do anything crazy to time tjs

[toxic pewter]

Yah it’s risky

[trim hill]

Unlike HoV or AV

[limpid anchor]

On +20 it’s alright to heal through it on fortified

[toxic pewter]

spell block in hov is really good too in my opinion

[sick sentinel]

i feel alot better this morning so far

[pulsar sedge]

When in doubt with pugs, let them zug zug and pull to where they can just kick and kill

[limpid anchor]

But heal won’t be happy

[sick sentinel]

hopefully key isn't too rough

[lyric geode]

for what adds?

[pulsar sedge]

All the casters

[toxic pewter]

Mostly hyrja on tyrannical

[lyric geode]

usually casters hit your dds

[sick sentinel]

there is a bunch of lightning dudes before first boss

[toxic pewter]

Yeah I mean lots of magic damage in there

I wonder if spell block helps against the dragon I don’t even know

[pulsar sedge]

Dunno, i always pop it there anyways ;D

[toxic pewter]

Same

I feel like it helps

[pulsar sedge]

No magic after dragoon anyways

dragon*

[trim hill]

I don’t think the 2 lightning dudes ever target the tank before first boss

[pulsar sedge]

Idk, i pop it when i do the triple at the start

That dragon is mean ;D

[trim hill]

I also don’t think hyrja blast can be blocked because I ram spell block there and the blast did the same damage but I could be wrong

[brave jungle]

Is there a document or similar that says when it is suggested to run SB and when to run Intervene? Please @ me 🙂

[tropic tangle]

it's blockable per the spreadsheet

[toxic pewter]

Just checked lightning breath is blockable

That alone it’s worth in my opinion

That dragon pull can go badly

[pulsar sedge]

I picked up intervene at the start of the xp, and honestly.. I always find a use for it shrug

[toxic pewter]

Yah I never use it but I’d be down to try interven again

[blazing condor]

intervene big qol

[toxic pewter]

So much damage going out

It actually makes sense

[pulsar sedge]

Any time you have ranged, it is usefull

Anytime your dps zug zug the thundering till last 2 sec, its useful

Hov.. Useful

[warm plinth]

The lightning breath is blockable with it

[toxic pewter]

Yes

[brave jungle]

So what do I remove to take intervene?

[minor aurora]

Yeah and the fact you can just block the wolf damage in HoV is insane

[pulsar sedge]

Pain and gain

[minor aurora]

Or drop the fear

[lyric geode]

Wolf hits like a truck.

[toxic pewter]

Does the charge / intervene macro still work

[pulsar sedge]

Not if you intervene the target @lyric geode

[lyric geode]

Wolves hit like a truck.

[pulsar sedge]

Then they just afk and take it, cuz you take it ;D

Ah, the wolves ;D

[lyric geode]

I was referring to the adds.

[minor aurora]

Boss wolf

[pulsar sedge]

#showtooltip charge
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists,nodead,harm] Shield Charge
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge

Thats the one i use

[craggy pilot]

will this ever Charge?

[pulsar sedge]

Yupp

[craggy pilot]

but it will always Shield Charge first

which sounds dumb

[pulsar sedge]

Not really. You want to use shield charge on cd?

[tawny kiln]

you want to charge first if you're out of range

[craggy pilot]

but you also wanna use Charge on CD

i mean when you get in range after Shield Charge, you cant Charge

[tawny kiln]

so that you start the fight with more rage

[warm plinth]

Oh good this conversation again

[blazing condor]

[pulsar sedge]

To each their own. Idc. He asked if the old macro worked.

[minor aurora]

Just take out shield charge then and use it when you feel like it

[plush pagoda]

Shield block is nice

[minor aurora]

If you don't want shield charge first

Ez pz

[pulsar sedge]

Or if you are nit picky about it, just swap shield charge to second? Then it will prio charge first, shield charge second

[minor aurora]

Voila

[gaunt oar]

Is there a haste cap/breakpoint?

[pulsar sedge]

40% when not using ItF from what was said

[craggy pilot]

when i convert M+ item to Tier set, will it keep the Stats or change stats? 🤔

[tropic tangle]

change stats

[mighty grail]

Maining pwarrior and loving it, but would like an alt tank, can’t decide if pala or dk. What are the pros and cons you think?

[craggy pilot]

and which tier piece is the worst for us?

[pulsar sedge]

Dk's are always nice

If i ever could steal an ability from someone.. I want grip ;D

[craggy pilot]

is it helmet? cus of the high mastery?

[uneven mason]

I'd rather just have gag order back

[south patrol]

What’s the % of stats haste and vers should I be going for for m+

[prisma crane]

most say gloves

[craggy pilot]

hmm ok

[prisma crane]

cuz helm still has haste right?

[craggy pilot]

was wondering to pick Gloves 418 from vault for Tier

[prisma crane]

cant recall

[craggy pilot]

helm has low haste high mastery

gloves is crit + mastery

high crit low mastery

[prisma crane]

tbh if the gloves are a bigger upgrade id just go that direction

[amber siren]

No magic numbers on stats

More stats is better stats than going for a specific one

[craggy pilot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/51Lx4YBbbanxQEULVWCh1N

im not sure tbh

haste mastery gloves eeek

[prisma crane]

yea but ilvl

[craggy pilot]

ye

its that vs 421 ring

and rings dont give main stat

so probably better to take Gloves

[prisma crane]

which ring?

[alpine solar]

is it worth to craft shield?

[prisma crane]

though honestly if not AA ring just do the gloves

[prisma crane]

in most cases very much so, but without context harder to give you a specific answer

[craggy pilot]

nokhud ring

[prisma crane]

idk it

[craggy pilot]

haste vers

[alpine solar]

@prisma crane fair haha sorry so im only 385 on this alt

[alpine solar]

372 shield atm

[craggy pilot]

i haqve 398 COS ring

[prisma crane]

solid, but up to you, you prob wont replace that ring, but gloves could get replaced, but only by 3 ilvl

in that scenario, still gloves though cuz itll make your time NOW better, which is better

[prisma crane]

prob best to still craft shield, its our most important slot and then you dont have to worry about it anymore

[alpine solar]

im debating farming offensive sword and making shield or just making wep and shield

atm only crafted i have are lariat and vers wrist

[plain turtle]

for M+ do you guys tank with sophic or frozen devotion?

[torn pebble]

If you don’t mythic raid (without getting lucky with 421 weapon in vault) - 418 weapon is highest you can get crafted

[plain turtle]

wouldn't shield be more impactful for prot than a 1h weapon?

[torn pebble]

Yeh, but with 2 sparks, do both

As he’s only crafted wrist and neck

[plain turtle]

i made a wrist a 2h for fury

but i'm finding myself playing prot more so i was leaning towards doing 1h and shield also

but doesn't the 1st mythic boss drop a 415 shield?

seems kinda doable to pug that

[craggy pilot]

thx bro i pulled the trigger

now just to figure out my valor 😄

[plain turtle]

oof yeah figuring out valor is my biggest issue right now

burning writ for weapon?

[tropic tangle]

yeah, at least get a rank 2 sophic or frozen

unless you're holding off to craft a 418?

[graceful kite]

No socket so meh

[plain turtle]

how do you choose which? sophic for raid, frozen for M+?

[craggy pilot]

i cant find someone to sell me Diamond

so i have 2/3 only 😄

[fallen apex]

Seeing that magnificent panda makes me want to dust off mine that's been sitting idle since Throne of Thunder

[tropic tangle]

frozen tends to be better ST, Sophic better in AoE. general consensus is Sophic is the way to go if you're good at pressing your buttons.

[plain turtle]

interesting

[tropic tangle]

can also sim yourself

[craggy pilot]

❤️

@prisma crane what will i easiest replace? 415 Big Toe, or 415 COS ring 🤔

neither i guess tho

so it doesnt rly matter too much

maybe COS ring gets replaced by Fire ring from HC raid though

and Big Toe gets replaced by 2-3 trinkets

[plain turtle]

isn't COS ring bis for multiple specs too?

[craggy pilot]

for Arms ye i guess

but for Prot it isnt i think?

isnt BIS Cobalt + Fire?

[plain turtle]

cobalt stays bis even at 389?

[craggy pilot]

think so

atleast what i heard

[graceful kite]

Cobalt is good for hard stuff

[craggy pilot]

cobalt is sick for Prot

as its just flat dmg

[graceful kite]

You dont have a socket in that ring

[craggy pilot]

=

?

[graceful kite]

What

Socket is worth a lot on rings

[craggy pilot]

which ring bro?

[graceful kite]

Nokhud ring

[craggy pilot]

i know

[high drum]

a fellow male panda enjoyer 🧎🏻‍♂️

[craggy pilot]

but i have no rings with socket?

wdym?

[ocean void]

Isn't the TOE trinket from SBG better now ?

[graceful kite]

So its not a great choice to pick

[craggy pilot]

i can put socket in it

if i get unlucky vault

it has leech though

[graceful kite]

Id just take gloves to convert em to set

[craggy pilot]

i alrdy took gloves 😄

im talking valor upgrade now

ring or trinket

[graceful kite]

And keep mplusing for socketed rings

[craggy pilot]

but valor is unlimited for next week right?

[graceful kite]

Not sure about that

Unlikely

[plain turtle]

do they get to a point where valor is unlimited?..

[craggy pilot]

feel like i just read it the other day

that valor will uncap next reset

[hard island]

Hey I'm struggling to sim which has higher value - shield spike or frostfire belt proc

[craggy pilot]

same in M+

shield spike is probably less in raid

[graceful kite]

Sim it, figure out if you will get the raid ring

[craggy pilot]

since u only tank ~50% of the time

[hard island]

That makes sense for raid

I'm struggling to sim it because I already crafted a shield with a spike on it, have lariate, and am looking at the belt now

Cant figure out how to keep the 418 shield in the sim but remove the spike damage

[craggy pilot]

hmm bloodmallet profile is Firering + COS ring on Prot

maybe Cobalt ring isnt so good after all

[graceful kite]

Cobalt absorb ring is good

[graceful kite]

Add a random 418 shield

With gear compare

[heady stratus]

Guys Do you know what is the script or mod in the plater that shows the spells cd of the adds ? like the Arcing strike here? Is the Lepantoe UI.

[hard island]

Ohhh, that's it. Thank you

[lavish token]

Most likely the "Spell CDs on Nameplate - Dragonflight Season 1" Weakaura or something similar.

[strong forum]

weakaura

i think its called nameplate CDs

[strong forum]

melandrus ring + fire ring is bis

[heady stratus]

Yeah ty

[craggy pilot]

ah ok ty

at what ilvl does it go above Cobalt?

i guess i just sim

[atomic laurel]

https://i.imgur.com/DOJ9RO1.png

opinions on where to spend valor, and whether or not to spend last spark on 418 weapon

[strong forum]

get a 418 shield

[atomic laurel]

would take off potion embell from ring and add fang to weapon

[strong forum]

and get the melandrus ring to 415

[ornate thunder]

Anyone running a maxed out ruby?

Wondering which study is best for m+

[atomic laurel]

not worth trying to grab shield off mythic eranog?

[strong forum]

its what, 411?

[sick sentinel]

no rubies for morshu yet

[atomic laurel]

415 crit vers

[strong forum]

418 is better

ilvl is ultra king on shield

and if you wanna upgrade more shit with valour, farm a whetstone

[arctic marten]

Is there a known amount of crit % needed to maintain 100% uptime on Wild Strikes?

[strong forum]

not reachable

even with 35% crit i dont have 100% uptime

[sick sentinel]

my valors is going in to shield

until shield is maxxed, then weapon, thanfullly got the rgiht weapon shield jus upgradin till somethin real nice comes along

[lone eagle]

Man, M Kurog slaps

Did an hour of prog on him last night

Any thoughts people who have killed it have?

[drifting needle]

We’re transition into last phase currently. Great fight

[lone eagle]

Legitimately find myself sitting in d stance for the end of the Fire section

Might be lack of healer CDs figured out

We just winged it last night to get some data for next week

[drifting needle]

I just have 1 healer cd and a wall ready for the enrage but you need to kite a few in later transitions like earth boi as he slaps

Timing wise he was only enraging at 5% ish so not too much tanking of it required

[lone eagle]

I shield walled the fire soak while tanking add

Will have to look at some logs to see CD timings people use

You find yourself in d stance a fair bit on that fight?

[past locust]

got a bollocking from a rogue for not running intervene on 16 Halls. is that actually a thing?

[alpine solar]

if we are going to craft a 1 hand wep is there a specific one?

or whatever we want to craft

[deep spruce]

Works wqell on the wolf boss

[lone eagle]

It's good but not required

[deep spruce]

means they dont need to run

but f that for one boss, especially on a 16

[lone eagle]

Would recommend in higher HOVs

[deep spruce]

and hes a rogue o.O

[lone eagle]

It's mostly useful if it goes on heals

[past locust]

ahhh

[lone eagle]

Esp some healers running while the bleed is out on grievous week

Can really set them behind

[zinc spruce]

How come those monsters after the first boss in shadow burial grounds can oneshot

some dude said that they do it if you interrupt them

[past locust]

death blast?

[zinc spruce]

nono

[past locust]

its in the name

[zinc spruce]

the other ones channelling

[past locust]

domination

shouldnt one shot

[zinc spruce]

i got flamed for stunning/interrupting them

[past locust]

makes it harder

un

[devout cipher]

they will hit and mind control people if you stun/kick them, otherwise they just channel and do nothing

[ivory briar]

is there any trick on reducing the damage from jade serpent kick in temple?

i just shreds me

[fluid shard]

i think you still want to hit them though, cause the add they control is linked to their threat

[warm plinth]

You shouldn't stun/interrupt them. They cast a ton if you do, both mind controls and rending voidlash which hits like a truck.

[fluid shard]

yeah we've been stacking on them AOEing but not kicking the dom

[onyx pike]

for m+ only is it worth it to go for the crafted fire proc waist when i have this ring? Or do I just replace the ring some time for higher ilvl and go with the normal crafted waist?

[warm plinth]

For both m+ and raid, you should make the frostfire belt

[onyx pike]

thanks, so the ring is THAT good?

[warm plinth]

It's free damage. A lot of it

[spice radish]

if you can get the other ring as well then yes

eranog's ring can proc diurna's ring

[oak echo]

Damn never thought of that

[rose oar]

got frostfire belt + ring

it's like 4,5% of my dps in m+

[spice radish]

then you do low dps if you get that much

[rose oar]

yea

i'm 390

and not that good

[spice radish]

it should do about 2 to 3% max

ring+ belt

[rose oar]

started tank 2weeks ago

[oak echo]

Do you still take the shield ring over like CoS ring though?

[spice radish]

yeah makes sense

cos ring is a dps increase only, not even bis stats. if you need a more "defensive" ring the 389 shield one, is as good as a 415 one

[rose oar]

btw how do you get it ?

craft ?

[rose oar]

oh okok

ty dude

[spice radish]

there is a vendor for this rep

you can wow head it has plenty of guides

i was using it to all my keys, swapped it this week for

its actually that good

[rose oar]

xddd

op i guess

[onyx pike]

the number of crafted items is not locked to 2 right? only the embelishments?

[spice radish]

2 embellishemnts 5 crafted

at least taht was on beta

[zinc spruce]

makes sense

for hov do u guys run spell block?

[spice radish]

no

[rose oar]

can i link you my charcter to see what pieces i have to change asap ?

[spice radish]

sure

[rose oar]

raider io ?

[spice radish]

yeah thats fine

dm it to me

[rose oar]

ok ty

https://raider.io/characters/eu/ysondre/Akuhh

again i just started playing tank

forget the shoulder

ofc

[spice radish]

hc leech ring

daaaaaym

[rose oar]

love this strongbox every weeek

[spice radish]

just get a better set of trinkets

[rose oar]

i'm so stressed to go raid dude

[spice radish]

baby steps

its only eranog and council you have to sustain

do these 2 everyweek

till you get the trinkets

[rose oar]

the totem one no ?

not that good ?

[spice radish]

these 2 are a great start

[rose oar]

ohh tought you got this one on kurig

kurog

[inland adder]

Keurig grimtotem is actually a great name

[rose oar]

xdd

[steady steppe]

Why? It's rly not that bad