Pin that for the ppl in the back
#protection
sturdy sable
strong forum
Don't hold onto CDs to line it up with avatar
Don't hold onto avatar to line it up with CDs
strong forum
Just, send it
uneven mason
They're all so short that even a 3s delay is a DPS loss
fallen pulsar
Just, send it
Based, was wondering this before. I often cdr avatar so much that it no longer syncs with demo
strong forum
Roughly
lusty tiger
Might steal this
uneven mason
#1 rule for being good at prot - Press Your Fucking Buttons
sudden osprey
in M+ there are specific pulls i get 2 avatars off when we go big dick
toxic pewter
so wait are people running bloodborne these days
toxic pewter
20% more dam to bleeds
unkempt imp
No shit are ppl really just macroing avatar into their abilities???
uneven mason
Bind to mouse wheel and fly
lusty tiger
Squeaky bat?
sturdy sable
so wait are people running bloodborne these days
Im pretty sure its still a dps loss
uneven mason
Squeaky bat?
GCD clipping bug iirc
fallen pulsar
20% more dam to bleeds
Uhhh I assume yes? But I dont remember which node it is on the talent tree
uneven mason
Haha
fallen pulsar
Might be one I always have on or off
sturdy sable
Uhhh I assume yes? But I dont remember which node it is on the talent tree
Far right by spell block
amber siren
Bloodborne is 2 points wasted
oak condor
where do i find the spell reflect wa thingie that was pinned?
fallen pulsar
Did it get unpinned?
inner halo
Trinket wise - 1. Is Burgeoning Seed any good? My current ones are decent, but just got this at high lvl. 2- If it is good, do I wait for 5 stacks to use it, or use it on CD even if I don't have 5 stacks?
amber siren
It is not good
novel pewter
Casual here and there's a chance I could fill in for one of the tanks on N Raz tonight, any tips/tricks? I assume the recommended Wowhead build for Raz is a solid choice to run? Most of my current tanking experience is up to M+10
inner halo
It is not good
Thanks, thats what I was hoping/expecting.
sturdy sable
Casual here and there's a chance I could fill in for one of the tanks on N Raz t...
Dont get blown off and dont eat breaths
sudden osprey
that tank buster is spooky if you are not used to it
oak condor
where do i find the spell reflect wa thingie that was pinned?
any got it? 😄
inner halo
Did it get unpinned?
not seeing the WA pinned anywhere.
fallen pulsar
Casual here and there's a chance I could fill in for one of the tanks on N Raz t...
Idk what the wowhead talent chart is but I’d drop pain and gain for wrecking throw or w/e it is called and use it on each shield in phase 2
After getting the damage buff btw
sick sentinel
healing
damage
buff
current standing
its ehhhhh
if you put 6 all into one
its decent?
i think?
fallen pulsar
All 6 in one is suppoesed to be very good
novel pewter
thanks err'body
fallen pulsar
Fire shot level 6 is competitive with grieftorch in single target according to wowhead
fallen pulsar
The wowhead article goes into more detail
sick sentinel
yea ive read it
fallen pulsar
Simply train two whelp shells
sick sentinel
wanted to try it myself i have a 405 one
fallen pulsar
Ezpz
amber moth
I tried to do the haste buff one, but it went to the healing one...
sick sentinel
apparently you cant
fallen pulsar
Oh rip
amber moth
Simply train two whelp shells
Its based on character, not shell
sick sentinel
its a currency in the backend
fallen pulsar
Make 2 end game geared warriors
Idk whelp shell is basically in: much testing to be done mode for now
It’s main issue is consistency
(And random pulling mobs according to the article)
sick sentinel
im prob just gonna put all of it into haste and forget about it tbh
fallen pulsar
I think getting one thing to level 6 is best, but not sure what is best overall
fading quiver
anyone have any tips for not getting ur butthole gigablasted on mythic grimtotem?
fallen pulsar
The raidwide?
fading quiver
I tried a lot of things out first night, we pretty much settled that its best for our DK to tank most thing for the fight and I only taunt for the tank buster
since dks just ignore magic damage pret much
some pret sketch logs in some of those pulls
dont judge
wary haven
Warriors innate lack of magic damage does seem to be a problem for most bosses. I find myself crushing ignore pain to mitigate as much as I can. Not sure there’s much else you can do
wary haven
Warriors innate lack of magic damage does seem to be a problem for most bosses. ...
Most magic dmg heavy bosses*
fading quiver
im looking at logs and i see people just waiting to use shield wall late in the phases when magic damage is high
and spamming spell reflect
some people even taking the double shield wall talent for more uptime late in phases
late wasp
Does anyone remember the weak aura that would have a pop up that said how much you reflected?
wary haven
I wonder if spell block would help?
fading quiver
dont usually see historic kill logs with people taking it
cinder storm
53th CoS run, got my chest
oblique kayak
was this known ? https://www.wowhead.com/news/how-to-train-your-ruby-whelp-shell-very-high-damage-or-stat-trinket-330947#trinket-performance
fallen pulsar
I feel like flame dominance is high? I could be wrong but I think by like 20-25 stacks you move the boss, how much energy does he have when you move him? (Unsure if mythic procs dominance more often)
Seems like he got to 29 stacks of flame dominance
fading quiver
in mythic grimtotem you take flame until 95% boss energy
so like the entirety of p1
fading quiver
because if you move him to another alter he spawns a huge add
but you can time it so that as hes spawning the add post 95% in the second alter he goes into intermission insteada
real jank
fallen pulsar
Yeah I mean that strat will stress you in terms of magic damage, so idk, spell block and shield wall for late in the phase
Spell block lasts a long time too
fading quiver
long cd too
fallen pulsar
Right thats why you hold it for when the damage matters
Should catch 4-5 flame dominance casts depending on your timing
dusty frigate
Hey, dumb question maybe but i didnt really play Shadowlands. If i have a helmet with a socket and when the creation catalyst thing comes out does it keep the socket if i transform it into a set item?
fading quiver
Yes
dusty frigate
thanks
fading quiver
I have a feeling spell block doesnt work
cant find a log of anyone using it
i assume low parsing warriors would have it because more defensive build, but even then they dont take it
modern brook
fallen pulsar
Could also be healing? Your prevoker and 2 resto druids also gray parsing healing, but only looked at one pull
sturdy sable
Naw just call for an external couldnt be the healers not healing /s
fading quiver
I feel like the "new" tank philosophy is that if you're struggling to live as a tank its your fault only
fallen pulsar
Also disclaimer, am pretty new at log analysis so take things I say with big grains of salt
sturdy sable
I feel like the "new" tank philosophy is that if you're struggling to live as a ...
Yep and its flat out incorrect at times
fading quiver
no problem Nando, (I was hoping [SENSE] was around to give me some tips since he seems to be doing something right)
fallen pulsar
Sense in next level lol
fading quiver
very regular and clean CD use
fallen pulsar
But I dont see him post here often
fading quiver
like, this is threat for our best pull
I dont want my cotank to hate me lol
Even with my barely tanking, my EHRPS is still waaaay higher than his
its just brutal
(hes also tanking the add full time)
I feel like a dps that just taunts for tank buster
sick sentinel
About to do a 21 jade temple just started playing prot last week how I survive the tank buster on the third boss?
jagged pier
tulip kelp
Could it be because healers aren't anticipating the extent of the damage? He's doing an insane amount of healing could be an issue of communicating to healers you're about to taunt so they can be ready?
fading quiver
About to do a 21 jade temple just started playing prot last week how I survive t...
spell reflect p1, potions for p2, move out for p3
and save all defensives for p2
sick sentinel
Should I take spell block?
fading quiver
if you want
you'd only really use it on that boss and maybe last trash pull
also not tyrannical so...
fading quiver
Could it be because healers aren't anticipating the extent of the damage? He's d...
i think our healers are struggling a little with the movement
i think with our dance strat they might even be running out of range of me
i really wish we had a pally healer
scariest part:
they kinda far
void bramble
alright, I saw you guys talk about this a couple nights ago, so if I have 402+ bis rings I should be wearing them over assembly right?
sturdy sable
alright, I saw you guys talk about this a couple nights ago, so if I have 402+ b...
Sim it
void bramble
i think our healers are struggling a little with the movement
this mythic?
fading quiver
yes
void bramble
@sturdy sable how do I sim it for tanking?
I didnt use the cobalt ring on the Heroic Raz kill we had last night, but every m+ dungeon I use it and its about 10% of my overall healing
fading quiver
you sim it for damage
no tank sims
an absorb ring shouldnt really be the reason you live/die
sick sentinel
was this known ? https://www.wowhead.com/news/how-to-train-your-ruby-whelp-shell...
tldr another QED?
oblique kayak
do we know what we want to train our welp in yet?
uneven mason
you sim it for damage
Your IP casts drop off when you have the DoT on Kurog, why?
sick sentinel
haste 4head, no but seriously i have that trinket but only a s a 376 non valor
so it s not even an item on my radar currently
fading quiver
Your IP casts drop off when you have the DoT on Kurog, why?
it disappears as soon as I press it
uneven mason
I mean the casts
You're literally not using your #1 magic mitigation tool
while bleeding to death
inland mesa
uneven mason
Of course it vanishes (it's getting used heh"
I see for one you had a ton...
which dropped the dmg alot
silent anchor
guys using sophic or frozen dev?
blazing condor
what determines the shield on the last miniboss before last boss in RLP?
the amount
uneven mason
I could be casting it more
Your co tank is just really good at BDK TBH, I'm looking at his RP use and how he's banking up to gain massive benefits from bloodshield during DoT uptime, combined with AMS, he has no fucks to give about the elemental damage.
short plover
what determines the shield on the last miniboss before last boss in RLP?
The shields the little adds have
uneven mason
I could be casting it more
Speaking of more casts
Shield Wall
You have 1 used in 3min
short plover
If you pull in side mini adds right before he casts shield he gets a massive shield and is very hard to break
short plover
I know from experience as well
fading quiver
You have 1 used in 3min
i was trying different things a lot with when to use SW on this fight, I started using it + last stand on each of the sundering strikes but eventually I tried to hold it until as late as i can in the phase
because thats where I was dying
uneven mason
Because your healers were probably getting behind the curve
short plover
Isn’t SW like close to a minute CD w the cdr?
uneven mason
right
fading quiver
The talents I see most taking if any are double shield wall talent
since intermissions is not scary at all
uneven mason
Also your healers both have guardian spirit and neither cast it...
just saying
- priests
fading quiver
It was our first night on it, we're all still learning the fight so cant expect optimal play. Just wanted to get some ideas of what others are doing on it
uneven mason
You could probably benefit from some CD use, the damage you take from strike seems above normal
visual bobcat
what are people training ruby whelp shell to do?
uneven mason
Crit
short plover
It was our first night on it, we're all still learning the fight so cant expect ...
Is weave of warped fates still worth? Seems like you lose a lot taking that over another str trinket
fading quiver
Is weave of warped fates still worth? Seems like you lose a lot taking that over...
Was just using this to see deeper into the pull
short plover
Gotcha
topaz raptor
would the alchemical flavor pocket be best on sword or shield? see some people say ring but i didnt craft one yet.
fading quiver
You could probably benefit from some CD use, the damage you take from strike see...
on the initial hit or dot?
Logs I see are like this:
using shield walls during the dot and not on the initial
I've generally just used spell reflect on the initial hit
mental scarab
we sue spell block for ruby life pol?:P
fading quiver
we sue spell block for ruby life pol?:P
its prety must have on tyrannical since you cant block anything from first boss
mental scarab
ah orighty
fading quiver
also good on second boss magic bleed that trucks
visual bobcat
whole place is a lot of magic damage
sick sentinel
i just did my first 20 SBG timed, and this is details. I fell i still miss a lot of dps.... 402 ilvl with lariat and 1h 418
does someone have some tip for a noob?
fading quiver
were you in battle stance?
cosmic chasm
Dps in battle stance
Switch to defensive when you're getting trucked
Makes a huge difference
sick sentinel
that 10%?
cosmic chasm
20%
sick sentinel
😮
i see only Defensive Stance decrease dmg 10%
and its about 2-3k, i fell like i miss 10k overall
pallid quiver
Battle is like a 11-12%-ish increase after the crit
sick sentinel
Battle is like a 11-12%-ish increase after the crit
true
pallid quiver
But before that;
cosmic chasm
That would put you around 30k and sbg doesn't have huge pulls
pallid quiver
Do you have logs? There's likely something wrong with your base cast rotation if your numbers are that low
sick sentinel
2.8k rogue btw
sick sentinel
Do you have logs? There's likely something wrong with your base cast rotation if...
yeah tis what i fell but i dont have
pallid quiver
Otherwise, all I got for you is send CDs on cooldown, don't miss SS resets, make sure to spend rage properly on revenge/avoid overcapping with IP
short plover
Could be talents as well
pallid quiver
If you can, set up DBM or something to go ahead and set up auto-logging so you can submit those. It lets us check your talents, CPM, rage usage, CD utilization, etc
sick sentinel
really thanks, i will 😄
do u have some tips for inc pulls?
i use shield charge mainly to pull
pallid quiver
never use shield charge to pull
It's a damage CD
You're losing rage, too, by not using base charge to start a pull
sick sentinel
oh yeah sure
pallid quiver
On top of that, if you're going into a pull and staying in the pull, as in not getting any more mobs, you want to throw Ravager in before you charge in order to get a bit of extra rag gen and aggro, as well as to get its CD rolling
After that, your general goal is to:
- If you need aggro, SS/TC before continuing
- Demo Shout
- T Roar
- Shield Charge
And spend IP as necessary to avoid overcapping during all of this
also avatar as you charge in
hybrid fossil
hey guys, which embellishment should i use for the shield?
pallid quiver
That's generally the best compromise between damage and actually keeping aggro on a pull with all CDs available
lucid pendant
None
topaz raptor
the food one i think is best for shield
pallid quiver
hey guys, which embellishment should i use for the shield?
The food one that's not actually an embellishment, yeah
lucid pendant
Lariat/belt crew
pallid quiver
If you already have it,
none unless you somehow can't get other embellishments
in which case armor spikes i guess?
topaz raptor
im using lariat / sword (fang) but im removing that because i just made the waist with the special embellishment
hybrid fossil
ah nevermind - i already have 2 embellishments
sick sentinel
On top of that, if you're going into a pull and staying in the pull, as in not g...
people do this but not for this reason btw
hybrid fossil
hm - is the belt better than the shield then?
pallid quiver
If you have the raid rings, yes
pallid quiver
Either of the raid rings, I mean
sick sentinel
you use ravager to pull packs for sync'ing up spell reflects
pallid quiver
If not, it's roughly like the other embellishments in performance, iirc
orchid garden
sure, i'm owning
short plover
you use ravager to pull packs for sync'ing up spell reflects
Does that work for imps in CoS If they cast it before the rest of your group gets in combat?
hybrid fossil
why is that a bad choice? i like the additional stun as well
pallid quiver
Shockwave is good
short plover
Or does it on SR one fire blast
sick sentinel
Does that work for imps in CoS If they cast it before the rest of your group get...
for imps you need your group to stay out of cast range
35yrd or something
30
ish
pallid quiver
Turning it away from a stun into "Use on CD to int your group by making mobs stun immune in order to get damage that's less than Unstoppable Force/T Roar" is
less than advisable
short plover
And it reflects all of them?
sick sentinel
yes
short plover
That’s sick, I didn’t realize that was a thing
fallow osprey
If the casts are synced up*
strong forum
did you wipe or
sick sentinel
i dont think so
sand torrent
is it worht to go into lfr for the 4p bonus ?
strong forum
damn then
spicy overall
how did you do so much reflect dmg, highest ive had is like 900k
did you solo imps or what
sick sentinel
i did all 3 packs of imps
short plover
Does it one shot imps? Lmfao
uneven mason
And it reflects all of them?
Yup first time I witnessed this magic was in mt hyjal, the necromancer waves would all sb at the same time
sick sentinel
no
strong forum
it doesnt no
sick sentinel
at 20 21 its like
strong forum
it does like 20% of their hp
strong forum
but usually you just stun them once and the group burns them down
pallid quiver
It's usually slower than just interrupting the cast and blasting them, ye
strong forum
in 2seconds
sick sentinel
you reflect first casts, shock wave 2nd, at which point your team should arrive
chrome falcon
it's definitely faster to just do the pull normally
pallid quiver
I think it might be a personal DPS loss, too, waiting for the cast
sick sentinel
no its not
chrome falcon
unless you're like leaping in when your group couldn't be there anyway
but still you can just let them run to you
sick sentinel
what i usually do is start a pack normally, leap to the imps mid pull, and merge the pull
sick sentinel
they all patrol so its not forced in anyway
the imps will come to you mid pull
just make sure to engage them out of range
chrome falcon
what i usually do is start a pack normally, leap to the imps mid pull, and merge...
i guess but then you might miss spell reflect on the succ
which is like 600k on 20+
cinder storm
It's faster if your team arrives on time and they kill them or stun their second casts, otherwise it's probably a wipe on some
short plover
I’m guessing theres a way to do this in SBG as well with the death blasts?
chrome falcon
i run disrupting shout in cos anyway so
sick sentinel
It's faster if your team arrives on time and they kill them or stun their second...
shock wave disrupting shout etc
either way, ravager pull is most relevant for the last pack of temple
TJS
pallid quiver
i run disrupting shout in cos anyway so
I've thought about this a bit; how's it working out?
sick sentinel
if you ravager pull that pack
chrome falcon
i never leave home without it
chrome falcon
all 3 of them guarantee to cast dark claw together
this isn't 100% consistent in my experience so i insta shockwave all 3 when i can
sand torrent
i should more read into the prot section getting good infos
mighty valley
do you just drop SOF for disrupting
sick sentinel
this isn't 100% consistent in my experience so i insta shockwave all 3 when i ca...
with ravager pull its 100% unless you didnt hover all 3 of them with the initial hit
mighty valley
i already drop TL T_T
sick sentinel
which can happen if youre off a lil bit with the cast circle
sand torrent
but what about my question from earlier where i thought about going into lfr to get my 4p for prot m+ if its worth or not
chrome falcon
TL sucks
mighty valley
yeah i dropped TL for Ram
chrome falcon
that shit is mediocre as hell
pallid quiver
but what about my question from earlier where i thought about going into lfr to ...
LFR pieces way too low, most likely
azure light
sick sentinel
ram is for tyrannical
pallid quiver
Like, 4P is super useful
chrome falcon
holy shit someone asked for vault advice and actually posted their character
pallid quiver
but LFR pieces are like, M0 level or something
chrome falcon
that's wild
uneven mason
but what about my question from earlier where i thought about going into lfr to ...
Lfr is garbage ilvl, 4p isn't worth any ilvl
pallid quiver
It's been happening, Matta
you just gotta be in here at the crack of servers up on tuesday
azure light
the sim says trinket is best, but it feels so bad to take 415 trinket when i have tier legs upgrade etc
chrome falcon
idk @azure light what kind of content are you doing
how soon can you get 415-418 shield
azure light
idk <@270310715590443010> what kind of content are you doing
mythic prog and m+
azure light
how soon can you get 415-418 shield
trying to get a crafted one, just hard to find a crafter
chrome falcon
the biggest upgrade for you rn is the shield
sand torrent
Lfr is garbage ilvl, 4p isn't worth any ilvl
ok 
have to wait one more week before i get my 4p then
chrome falcon
but that should get replaceD ASAP anyway
sick sentinel
trying to get a crafted one, just hard to find a crafter
what server
azure light
ye man the shield front has been bad, also insanely unluck with everything
azure light
what server
Doomhammer 
chrome falcon
not people who are doing mythic prog
sick sentinel
oh yea youre on your own
uneven mason
ok <:sadga:869134702970273812> have to wait one more week before i get my 4p t...
You're literally missing nothing
chrome falcon
our 4pc sucks
azure light
i have 10 set, so i prbly shouldnt talk XD legit gotten so many tier pieces this tier
chrome falcon
because we never die
vernal sky
is Flame of Decoration good for m+?
sick sentinel
4pc is not that great but feels pretty good to use
mighty valley
"insanely unlucky" says man with 4pc, auto attack ring, two good trinkets
sand torrent
You're literally missing nothing
my guild told me because im fury main in raid "u will get it last" 
hybrid fossil
is the belt worth for m+ due to kiting? or what is the reason for the belt?
mighty valley
the belt activates the raid ring
azure light
"insanely unlucky" says man with 4pc, auto attack ring, two good trinkets
i mean, thats all grinded for though
uneven mason
is the belt worth for m+ due to kiting? or what is the reason for the belt?
Who the fuck kites
azure light
spellblock fucks^
mighty valley
how do you grind for raid trinkets
left bloom
@azure light is that doomhammer EU or NA?
sand torrent
Who the fuck kites
kiting is for the weak
azure light
<@270310715590443010> is that doomhammer EU or NA?
EU
sick sentinel
unless youre doing like 22 TJS
mighty valley
also grinding is luck based, people can do COS a thousand times and never see the ring
uneven mason
Yeah ok tha kites, but outside of that
vernal sky
dark claw can be stunned too
left bloom
Fatburger-turalyon can craft shields
sick sentinel
i dont think you need to kite dark claws
pallid quiver
how do you grind for raid trinkets
You "grind" with the raid lead
azure light
unless youre doing like 22 TJS
ur kiting those mobs if u dont have spellblock..?
vernal sky
fast cast but doable
sick sentinel
ur kiting those mobs if u dont have spellblock..?
even if i dont have spell block i have other cds
hybrid fossil
can dark claw be reflected by spell block?
azure light
i doubt ur surviving a high key without spell block on that pack
azure light
can dark claw be reflected by spell block?
no, but it can be reflected by spell reflect 😛
chrome falcon
i doubt ur surviving a high key without spell block on that pack
you can with perfect play and high group co-ordination
woven trellis
guys i need some brainstorming about the most efficient way to mark mobs in key, which add on on macro, then which keybind
sick sentinel
dude try it
chrome falcon
spell reflect -> shield wall -> bunch of stuns -> spell reflect
sick sentinel
well yea that too
chrome falcon
it's doing
sick sentinel
but i never intentionally kite the dark claws
woven trellis
SPELL BLOCK BLOCKS DARK CLAWS LOL?
fallow osprey
guys i need some brainstorming about the most efficient way to mark mobs in key,...
Have you tried M+ Automarker? It’s a weak aura
woven trellis
Have you tried M+ Automarker? It’s a weak aura
ye but my guild is always complaning about it because i cant decide which marker will be what
sick sentinel
hey man trust me
try it on a lower key or something
ravager pull the TJS pack
make sure to hit all 3 of the dark claw mob
at the same tick
they will 100% cast at the same time
unless your group stuns them
grave wedge
395 ilv no tier, whats a reasonable key level ( wanna see how much i should be pushing without becoming a healing nightmare)
fallow osprey
395 ilv no tier, whats a reasonable key level ( wanna see how much i should be p...
I would just push your own keystone and see for yourself since there are a lot of variables here
tropic tangle
alternatively push your own key until your IO lets you get into 16s
woven trellis
dorki tanked 23s at ilvl 395
oak echo
Let that be the healers problem then. Don't hold yourself back unless you find out you can't go further
buoyant narwhal
Are these the best sockets for ur lariat?
STR + Haste
Crit+ Haste
Crit + haste?
grave wedge
okay yeah i pug alot of shit so the runs go as expected with pugs and io climbing. 16 seems to be comfortable for me its the highest ive done but it didnt feel hard last week. so at this point its a group thing and mechanics to keep pushing io up for 16s im sitting just below ksm atm
actualy i was doing the 16 at 390 but i got a better shield helm and trinket last night so im gonna push hard this week
sounds solid guys ty
buoyant narwhal
ye thx
sick sentinel
ok i got a lot of hate here for saying stuff like this but sim arent gonna prepare you for situations where you dump literally every last point of rage into IP and it still won't hold up. And the people telling you defensiveness comes from play are doing 17,18s with 410 and 4p
neon elk
ye but my guild is always complaning about it because i cant decide which marker...
Its pre set to set specific mark for specific mob, based on prio, if same mob are same its random, based on what you mouseover first .
Imho, what is what isnt that important , learn what has most prio , lets say its X, and then tell your rogue to aleays sit X , etc etc prio by prio, going from most efective class to least ( like going rogue>>war>>priest etc) .
Alternatively, u can open setings of that WA and go mob by mob yourself and select markers u want
buoyant narwhal
😂 😂 Sending it full haste
woven trellis
Its pre set to set specific mark for specific mob, based on prio, if same mob ar...
oh nice okay
sick sentinel
there is a reason ~7 out of 10 top warrior are running shield cobalt ring at high level keys
which sim wont tell you ever
neon elk
Not shield one
grizzled chasm
This is real good for prot right?
neon elk
Also for me 415s rings are better than dmg cobalt
jagged pier
This is real good for prot right?
maybe
grizzled chasm
oh
strong forum
after you trained it 6 times
whole vortex
We just don't know yet
grizzled chasm
Hmm okay
strong forum
but we are gathering more data
sick sentinel
i messed up my whelpling 😦
hushed lintel
hey lads, how do we proc fire rings reliably? the crafted belt?
grizzled chasm
what should I train it in
strong forum
yeah thats a fucked up whelp
strong forum
hey lads, how do we proc fire rings reliably? the crafted belt?
only belt
strong forum
what should I train it in
fireshot
hushed lintel
but is it enough?
grizzled chasm
epic
whole vortex
i messed up my whelpling 😦
😬
sick sentinel
altho
hushed lintel
bruh, wish we had cowl
sick sentinel
if its 1 to 1 ratio
strong forum
you get 40% value
whole vortex
I started training my dragon for ST today, by the time I'm done training we'll know if it's actually good or not
strong forum
we made an elaborate wowhead post about it mooman
and even opened up our bear troupe discord 😄 to gather more data
blazing condor
monka
wheat ore
anyone know what is best to train on the ruby welp trinket?
wheat ore
hmm, might just try the aoe then
strong forum
mine is currently 5fireshot 1lobbing nova
sick sentinel
yea same imma just do aoe dummy
strong forum
ill set it to 4-2 tomorrow
sick sentinel
whats your % overall with that setup?
strong forum
mine is only 372 and i just restored it today
but it did like 3% on eranog
1k dps
sick sentinel
oh neat
opal topaz
strong forum
sophic or frozen
sophic is better on aoe
frozen is better if youre low ilvl and not as good at prot yet
frozen berry
Think I have a 392 Ruby in my bank I need to check it out
You think the aoe or single target dps?
wet gate
which buff are prot getting for the ruby trinket?
frozen berry
Or the haste
wet gate
i would think aoe or haste right?
sick sentinel
i have mixed feeling about 16% uptime haste proc
wet gate
16% uptime in how long of a fight?
neon elk
Can i full train it in one day?
sick sentinel
its 1 rppm 12 sec proc
wet gate
or you mean whole encounter? like m+ run?
hazy sluice
Jo 1h embellishment as ok as wrist? Got a good wrist with socket and think about crafting 418 with embellishment to replace it
sick sentinel
the thing about that in a M+ setup is
you could have it proc at near end of a pack
and by the time you pull the next
its off
lol
strong forum
each embellishment is ~1% dmg and/or stat gain on average
it doesnt matter much Pleppy
wet gate
hmm yea good point
hazy sluice
Yeah so nvm then I go for ir
strong forum
and by the time you pull the next
thats the issue with RNG yes
wet gate
i guess aoe for m+ is prolly the safe choice then
sick sentinel
yea i would assume so but its all value dependant
strong forum
the aoe proc does 20% less dmg on ST, but starts beating the ST proc as soon as 2 targets are present
the ST dmg is consistent
so thats its +
the aoe shot is also 1-1 split
the typical BFA split, splits even among enemies, increases by 15% total dmg each time up until 5 targets
hence why im trying a 4ST 2AOE split from tomorrow onwards
wet gate
ah nice
strong forum
cuz i think thats a solid spread for m+
wet gate
i think ill just go full aoe and then once people figure out meta will switch
oak echo
hence why im trying a 4ST 2AOE split from tomorrow onwards
I item recovered mine and turned out this is how I'm set up after I trained it today
strong forum
neat
so go slam some keys and bosses
and give us the data in the bear troupe discord
the link to it is in the wowhead article
harsh cedar
Not worth going for the haste training?
strong forum
needs to be figured out
cant just say it day1
we need people to go for it
and report back
median tulip
This the Ruby Whelping we're talking about?
strong forum
yes
harsh cedar
True true. It would almost double my haste during procs, so that is kinda cray cray
strong forum
it is huge for classes who dont need to line it up with CDs
like rogues, enha shaman, BM hunter and so on
but it remains RNG
lost ocean
Hey all - are there any prot warriors out there that do coaching / watch gameplay to help improve?
jagged pier
yes
fallen pulsar
Is bear troupe a guild or a community
jagged pier
strong forum
community
lost ocean
@jagged pier is that you saying....you? Lol
jagged pier
yer i can
strong forum
not in game tho
jagged pier
not tonight tho
lost ocean
I'll shoot you a DM
jagged pier
just PM me and ill get round it it tomorrow
lost ocean
Sounds good!
quick iron
Question for those that also have the 4-set, have you noticed doing anything beneficial? it feels very negligible and I feel like it would be better to just have gear with stats
strong forum
it does alot of trickle absorbs
and it enables brutal vitality
but its alot of trickle
so you cant just point it out, but it is definitely quite strong defensively
jagged pier
do u want stats and effect or just stats?
neon elk
In those situations where u dont swim in rage ( ST, no CDs, no BL, unlucky procs) for big hits like 2nd rlp or bird in AA etc, defensive wise, is it better to press revenge for 2pc or to spend rage on one extra IP?
median tulip
i mean stats suck
HashtagAllStatsMatter
strong forum
its bis assuming same ilvl
higher ilvl wins
but if its your highest, take it
stats arent that important
strong forum
In those situations where u dont swim in rage ( ST, no CDs, no BL, unlucky procs...
depends on dmg intake
but usually youd want to revenge
to get reset chance on shield slam
is better in the long run
treat revenge as your reset button for SS
median tulip
Serious point though, is that it's very easy in Dragonflight to overdo the stat priorities; Just because Haste and Crit are very good doesn't mean you can entirely avoid Versatility and Mastery
neon elk
That makes sense, was comparing only 2pc vs IP and totaly forget about another SS proc chance
strong forum
if you over IP you wont get as many resets and die
SS resets is what keeps you alive
unironically
neon elk
Yea totaly forget to include that, thanks
lucid raven
Worth upgrading Potion Stained Cloak that has speed on it? No clue what our BiS cloak is
lyric elm
So is the whelp meme bait or actually good now
People have been shitting on it so much
strong forum
its better than initially tested
it looks to be one of the better trinkets in the game
but we need more data
lyric elm
Yes but we can get started on training it I guess
strong forum
yes
median tulip
So is the whelp meme bait or actually good now
It takes a week to build up its priorities. It's like the opposite of SIM bait
quick iron
man opinion on whelp seems to be see sawing
strong forum
mine was trained since before m+ released but its bugged on training dummies to not respect the weightings
lyric elm
So it's trained by putting it on an enemy or? That's it?
sick sentinel
oh btw
for haste proc
on the table you said the npc in inn etc etc but later in the article it says you guys arent sure which npc
was that just an edit error or
@strong forum
strong forum
lyric elm
"You can train your whelp by targeting the following entity, and using the trinket:" this is so obscure lol
how are you supposed to figure this out..
strong forum
by testing it
sick sentinel
yea so the mote in inn is not 100% confirmed?
strong forum
very little is 100% confirmed
sick sentinel
okok
sick sentinel
i used my cd today ill do it tmr
lyric elm
I will do the mote for 7 days then and report back to you if it works
sick sentinel
mine is 405 too
modern folio
so what do you guys think of this trinket from brackenhide i feel like it's a beter defensive option then any trinket in the game atm sadly it doesn't have a dmg part to it
strong forum
best defensive trinket in the game
modern folio
even at m0 it's better then mythic eranog
strong forum
even at 372
lyric elm
so what do you guys think of this trinket from brackenhide i feel like it's a be...
its op as fuck
ancient lantern
i used mine on the fire thingy in the valdraken inn and got 1/6 in crit training
i'm pretty sure
neon elk
And all trinkets share same training? Like can i train low ilvl one for X and then another higher ilvl trinket will have same perks?
ancient lantern
i think i targeted the right one but still got the crit training
ancient lantern
but i'm getting haste procs sometimes
strong forum
yes
sick sentinel
laaaaaaaaaaaame
prisma crane
actually its a good thing
or you'd have to retrain it every time you get an upgraded one
strong forum
is it?
strong forum
it having a lower CD would be alot better
sick sentinel
from heroic etc
prisma crane
unless you wanted to just swap them around if you have multiple
strong forum
so you can properly set shit up
sick sentinel
and train it in a day
sick sentinel
yea
stone condor
with the new discoveries on the rubywelp trinket is it now better for prot warry
tulip kelp
There's no shortcuts when it comes to training your dragon
prisma crane
but imo if they had different CDs the training would be tied to the item instead of the character, and im not sure they even have that tech
sick sentinel
i think from what i read in the article
the trainning progress is stored as currency in backend
like literal currencies like VP etc
so its character bound
strong forum
with the new discoveries on the rubywelp trinket is it now better for prot warry
well ofc, its better than previously known
lyric elm
Looks like this for me now https://i.imgur.com/q5IuCdX.png
prisma crane
so then theoretically that WA could be updated to retroactively collect the data you've already put into it if the game tracks it somewhere
lyric elm
I got the "sleepy" when I targetted the mote
sick sentinel
thats pog my has 2 healing and 2 crti buff lol
lyric elm
The fire shot I got from dummies
prisma crane
ah so it already does, nvm
strong forum
i dont want to clutter up this discord alone with just ruby whelp, so if you wanna report your findings you can do that in our community specifically for this trinket
you can find the link to it in the wowhead post at the "next steps" section
prisma crane
i dont think its too big of a deal, its something ppl will be here to ask about anyways
as they had been even prior to this new article
now to see what ilvl mine is in the restore...
lyric elm
Hehe. Ye got the same ilvl
lyric elm
Good thing trinkets are cheap to upgrade
neon elk
I traded 402 to friend like 3 days back cuz he had AA box and it was driving him crazy and wanted literaly any replacement
dusk hinge
can some1 tell from what I got chunked so hard ? got nearly no dmg whole key, dunno what I missed there
https://gyazo.com/5c8d64cbc2d3973474f82e80fbc1b80c
was it the battleaxe slash ?
neon elk
Yea looks like slice from axe @dusk hinge
sick sentinel
surge
neon elk
Axe was already casting it as he was backing to it, and he even got debuf exactly as his hp droped . But its maybe both
dusk hinge
maybe because I turned around ? cuz I did a 18+ right now and this didnt happen
is it blockable ?
sick sentinel
no no
warm plinth
I'm not 100% but pretty sure the initial hit is blockable
dusk hinge
sorry for bad quality xD
warm plinth
Yes it was a combination
sick sentinel
play it on 0.5 speed it becomes clearer
dusk hinge
ye I see
quick iron
wont attack things you arent aggrod afaik
graceful kite
Its time to restore 405 shell bois
lyric geode
I did the usual path in RLP and i was 98%
weak goblet
Hello fellow prot warriors. I'm just looking for some advice on high key Jade. The third boss when she does jade serpent kick with the heal absorb tends to put me down quite low. Any mitigation suggestions for this? outisde of the usual CD;s? there's only so many you can take
lyric geode
did they change something in RLP?
strong forum
Hello fellow prot warriors. I'm just looking for some advice on high key Jade. T...
Pins
graceful kite
did they change something in RLP?
Bosses got nerfed
lyric geode
I have a path that I did, I revisited every pack
graceful kite
Trash still slaps tho
lyric geode
it was 98%
graceful kite
Yep
lyric geode
and on MDT it shows 100%
graceful kite
it was 98%
U missed some scorchlings mb
dusk hinge
what shell ?
lyric geode
U missed some scorchlings mb
No
I killed them all
I am certain of it
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The usual path on RLP
lean zephyr
maybe some count is off, it happens with mdt. some of the trash in nok around the twins has incorrect count too
lyric geode
But I already done this path previously without any difference.
toxic pewter
what route you guys go in AA these days
lean zephyr
what route you guys go in AA these days
vex -> crawh -> tree -> drag
lyric geode
Next time I will pull the primal juggernaut
toxic pewter
vex -> crawh -> tree -> drag
Ok that is what a party member said is best
weak goblet
"use CD's" was the answer
toxic pewter
gonna try that next
lyric geode
Tree->Vex->Dragon->Dragon
weak goblet
good stuff
toxic pewter
Big tree pull on fort
do you lust this pull
warm plinth
We've been doing Vex>Tree>Bird and lusting Vex and Crawth
cinder storm
If you run without a poison dispel ( like I do ) I prefer lust on tree
dusk hinge
I was doing Tree > Bird > Vex on forti
toxic pewter
yah we lusted tree just now
dusk hinge
we lusted tree and vex
toxic pewter
but a big pull could be good with lust fore tree trash
neon elk
do you lust this pull
Yea, based on group u can do 3wasps+all blossom and lust .
Or if key is high enough and u u sure just lust bosses and go vex tree bird
dusk hinge
This was my route today on my timed 18+
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neon elk
Since nerf i see BL on tree as total waste, no matter of week
lean zephyr
i did this on 21 tyr
dusk hinge
you did 2 skips ?
lean zephyr
ya
cinder storm
Pugs will 100% stun astral bombs
prisma crane
so i go vex, tree, bird, finish
graceful kite
Since nerf i see BL on tree as total waste, no matter of week
I do 1st pull, bird and last
prisma crane
i dunno i think they are pretty free
i agree, they're super easy
toxic pewter
theyre easy but a lot of health they said
graceful kite
Acually im pulling 2 packs on the way to vex now
toxic pewter
but yeah id rather just kill them
cinder storm
Range class can LoS jump and they do pretty much nothing for the wyrm
west bronze
how many talents are really interchangeable for M+ in yiour guys' opinions?
graceful kite
theyre not scary and no need to run around
prisma crane
theyre easy but a lot of health they said
balanced by being able to do a lot of them at once
lean zephyr
yup
toxic pewter
balanced by being able to do a lot of them at once
yah true
i pull all the little ones
prisma crane
yea i always do all 4 sets
lyric elm
RLP might be the most popular key for a while now @strong forum
keen rose
I normally just kill everything on my way to the next boss cuz I'm terrible in managing % :p
strong forum
RLP might be the most popular key for a while now <@192743144276623360> <:keks:9...
Yes
wanton shale
It was just mega nerfed?
cinder storm
It was just mega nerfed?
Nah, people looking for garumon now
cinder storm
any active raid guild ?
Check #promotion
left cobalt
It was just mega nerfed?
The whelpling trinket got figured out how to do good dmg apparently comparable with grieftorch
hollow mural
graceful kite
does anyone know if we'll be able to convert crafted gear in catalyst?
not sure what i should spend 4th spark on
lyric elm
does anyone know if we'll be able to convert crafted gear in catalyst?
You can't
graceful kite
damn
lyric elm
Spend sparks on non-tier set items
graceful kite
so its belt-wrist-ring time
keen rose
I hate as a tank that every dungeon in this expansion doesn't have a linear path
graceful kite
for a socket
graceful kite
Check up exactly what the slots are
well it was head wrist belt rings in sl
gritty glen
I hate as a tank that every dungeon in this expansion doesn't have a linear path
Some do. RLP, TJS, SBG are very linear.
graceful kite
Some do. RLP, TJS, SBG are very linear.
vault is very linear too
graceful kite
its linear in terms of should i get some extra trash somewhere
keen rose
Some do. RLP, TJS, SBG are very linear.
Yeah yeah there are a few exceptions, was talking more about the actual expansion dungeons
chrome falcon
I hate as a tank that every dungeon in this expansion doesn't have a linear path
this patch has easily the most linear dungeons of any season
3 of them are literally straight lines
azure vault is also basically a straight line
tropic tangle
yeah, these are much more linear than most Slands dungeons
keen rose
I hate tanking the nokhund ofensive
graceful kite
Yeah yeah there are a few exceptions, was talking more about the actual expansio...
well uldaman neltharus vault hoi rlp are linear
chrome falcon
why
graceful kite
5 out of 8
mighty valley
nokhud might as well be linear since you just clear three areas and then fly directly to final boss
tropic tangle
shit, nokhud ez. 2 pats + weapons on granyth, pats and totems for elemental, then just hit 95% in the graveyard area before doing side route to balakhar
naive hatch
Do we take spell block for any dungeons currently? AV maybe?
mighty valley
RLP + TJS
graceful kite
Do we take spell block for any dungeons currently? AV maybe?
whats to block in av
mighty valley
are probably the most spell block happy dungeons
naive hatch
does spell block prevent jade serpent strike?
keen rose
nokhud might as well be linear since you just clear three areas and then fly dir...
Yeah but managing % since you just fly from boss to boss is kinda hard
graceful kite
it blocks the hit
very useful on high tyrs
and block stuff from sha
so fort too
pallid quiver
Yeah but managing % since you just fly from boss to boss is kinda hard
you really just sit and kill trash for like 20 minutes
graceful kite
Yeah but managing % since you just fly from boss to boss is kinda hard
its a weird problem
pallid quiver
It's honestly the most linear dungeon, I feel, since there's "area to kill trash, do so, kill boss"
and
nothing else
graceful kite
you just kill stuff until u have 94.6
strong forum
Yup
graceful kite
I actually pull random packs
keen rose
Idk I prefer a closed 1 path dungeon xD
pallid quiver
I think they need to do something with Nokhud; it's not fun to run
graceful kite
only checking if there are no 2mystic packs with pugs
pallid quiver
You're like sitting there just clearing trash for like 25 minutes
graceful kite
i think they should fix the academy
so its stops destroying itself every second run
im so tired of the teleporting winds not working
pallid quiver
Idk I prefer a closed 1 path dungeon xD
how about a 0 path dungeon, because that's nokhud
chrome falcon
You're like sitting there just clearing trash for like 25 minutes
yeah this is kinda my problem with nokhud
pallid quiver
there's just 4 areas in the map
pallid quiver
and you exist there
keen rose
how about a 0 path dungeon, because that's nokhud
That's exactly why my tiny brain doesn't like it
toxic pewter
last pull of TJS you guys CCing any mobs
pallid quiver
Well, the trash before last boss does 🙂
that's why we say fuck that and just never see them
graceful kite
none of the trash does *anything*
corruptors like to stay 20yrds away from others because theyre casting
to annoy you
graceful kite
last pull of TJS you guys CCing any mobs
nah i bigball
tho i only did a 20 tjs lol
so not an expert
pallid quiver
last pull of TJS you guys CCing any mobs
excuse me while i tell my mage friend i run with to learn how to poly elementals, then I'll get right on that
graceful kite
shas are not recasting tank hits now if you stun them
same for leg sweeps and other stuff
toxic pewter
excuse me while i tell my mage friend i run with to learn how to poly elementals...
pretty sure hunters can trap them
graceful kite
so you can time it and feel nice
toxic pewter
so you can time it and feel nice
ok good to know
pallid quiver
Warlocks can also banish the single one of them that's an elemental
because most sha are abberations
but one of them's an elemental for some reason
I forget which one, but
graceful kite
isnt haunting an aberration
pallid quiver
I think so, yes, but one of the sha in the last pack's an elemental
Whichever one is on the farthest right is, iirc
pallid quiver
Yeah, so it at least reduces the amount of damage coming in if you do so
graceful kite
would be weird if haunting wasn't an aberration since paladin can kill it with turn evil
median tulip
none of the trash does *anything*
There are the annoying archer types that we can't do anything about and then the healer calls us a bad tank because other people are getting shot. Those are fun. Not.
Nokhud is without doubt the worst dungeon this season
It does very much feel like "hey, we have to put in a dragonriding instance"
graceful kite
Well it was fun for the first time
cinder storm
LET FLY x 300
tulip kelp
Man kinda lame you can't get piercing howl without zerker rage
unborn ocean
Hey we have a war tank in our guild who is getting destroyed on 2nd ruby pool boss, any idea how to mitigate that ? We were thinking that it was normal as its magic dmg but some pug told us it never happened to him
Do we just have to rely on heal or ? :S
graceful kite
Hey we have a war tank in our guild who is getting destroyed on 2nd ruby pool bo...
Cycle defensive cds on tank hit, use reflect, take spell block if its hard to survive
strong forum
It's a bleed
graceful kite
Lol
strong forum
Spell Block and spell reflect don't do anything
graceful kite
Really
strong forum
Yes
graceful kite
On a fire boss
strong forum
And a bleed
graceful kite
Im actually laughing now
unborn ocean
😮
strong forum
Yeah it's so dumb
You can dwarf it, evoker cleanse it
But other than that, plan your shield walls and externals
graceful kite
I tried to only use reflect in 21 today and almost died
strong forum
And just get healed
graceful kite
Thought wow and they say its nerfed
steel mauve
searing wounds "obviously its a physical bleed guys" some blizzard employee some where
graceful kite
Searing wounds sounds opposite to bleed
tropic tangle
actually even more bullshit, because if you seared a wound, it would not bleed
steel mauve
we're not using logic logic, we're using blizzard logic
graceful kite
Thats dumb
strong forum
🙂
tropic tangle
blizz has even correctly identified the process with mage cauterize
graceful kite
Im actually doubting your words
strong forum
Feel free to check any log
steel mauve
its even in the dungeon journal guide thingy
slim timber
That’s half the reason it’s believable.
tulip kelp
You sure you doing 21s? I'm actually doubting your words
graceful kite
We can reflect a dragon hitting with its claws tho
graceful kite
You sure you doing 21s? I'm actually doubting your words
I have a screenshot!
tropic tangle
longest hammer ever
high drum
she has big arms
cinder storm
for all the rp they added in DF, what was the thought process there
oak echo
Imagine if you could just leap out of it
strong forum
It's probably the longest targeted attack in the game that isn't just "instance wide"
graceful kite
I think i should drop some haste now
I have 40+ with itf
And sims tell me to use crit mast rings
cinder nova
Yeah, pretty sure the sim is memeing on you by assuming ITF isn't just additive non-DR haste.
tulip kelp
Im actually doubting your words
tulip kelp
Lol just messing.. just sayin super easy to just look up the spell in wowhead
tulip kelp
strong forum
Also took me 1 wipe to realise on tyr week aswell
That i chunked despite Spellblock up
Was like "huh it doesn't show any blocking happening"
Very cringe moment
graceful kite
What dps u do in rlp nome
strong forum
I've not done rlp in 4 weeks, but I'd assume minimum 50k
graceful kite
Oh
strong forum
Today I pugged a key which disbanded at 2nd boss
I finished first boss with 71k overall dps for the dungeon
Before starting on 2nd boss trash clearing
If that helps you in any way
true hound
Well, that's a lot of whelp damage
graceful kite
Just interested
graceful kite
I did around 60 today
strong forum
Sounds reasonable
cinder storm
My key is currently rlp 19 and I don't want to pug it, not my favorite key
but at least, if it depletes, it depletes fast
true hound
Mate, I'm sitting with a rlp 20 and have <400 ilvl, no 4set and only 20% haste with buffs. I'm not setting my foot in that dungeon
strong forum
Well it is fort, so it would be doable with a good group
But I fully understand that
tulip kelp
^
true hound
Yeah, if I had been dwarf maybe and an evoker to help remove bleed on second boss.
strong forum
If a dps is dead on a boss it gets super spicy instantly