#protection

1 messages · Page 286 of 1

steady steppe
#

It only gives normal raid gear

sick sentinel
#

Still going to be a minimum +20 upgrade so just trying to take the best path to bring it up to speed.

steady steppe
#

This p much happened with me I crafted a weapon and then I got a 415 weapon in vault

inland garnet
#

Hey what's the uptime of the allied bracers in M+ worst case scenario (ranged healer + 3 rdps)

mortal brook
#

30 yard range for the effect so as bad as they make it for you

inland garnet
#

Got it 🙂

exotic rapids
#

Decoration of Flame 376 vs Primal Turtel Shell 379. What would you pick? Shell does around 11% of my healing in a key. Decoration of Flame 4,7% heal and 2,3% dmg... Upside for Decoration is I can use it "at will"... Hope I get trinkets on a higher ilvl soon..

karmic plinth
#

sim with fire blessing on shell vs decoration of flane

#

pick which does better damage

exotic rapids
#

so you would not go for the defensive option with shell?

karmic plinth
#

at that ilvl you're better off going for something that will give you good throughput

exotic rapids
#

we cannot get shell any higher I guess, 382 i read somewhere but no idea where

karmic plinth
#

you dont need tankiness from trinkets when the spec itself is strong defensively

stark vine
#

Amy tips on first Boss RLP? Im ilvl 398 with 7% Vers with no set pieces. I spammed all my rage into IP, used spell reflect on CD on the cast and cried the rest of time.
Ever cast hit for like 160k

zealous grove
#

rotate your other CDs

#

and think about spell block

cold dragon
#

hey there. any site where i can check all the tank busters in m+?

mellow surge
#

Hey all, how much haste is too much haste? I have 30% haste should i try to get more or spec into versatility

noble sapphire
#

do subjugated souls reset aggro if dominate gets interrupted? I have had a couple times where someone gets 1 shot meleed in the first pull after 1st SBG boss, but it seems like i have aggro according to my plater's nameplate color

#

or do they have periods where they fixate randomly?

brave portal
#

dont interupt dominate, aoe them down (dont stun / interupt)

#

they do absolutely nothing when channelling until you stun them / interrupt

narrow vigil
#

Hey does someone know if you can remove embellishments when recrafting gear?

cold dragon
#

and it asks if you want to remove it

narrow vigil
#

ok great, ty!

noble sapphire
#

someone had an unfortunate death in a very close +20 so now it's bothering me. seen it here and there in the past too

warm plinth
zealous grove
mental berry
#

how do you guys deal with 2nd boss in ruby life pools?

#

on high keys it just feels pain even with defensive cd

mystic ember
#

Demo shout and dstance didn't feel enough for me on 2nd boss rlp. 115k ticks on the bleed.

noble sapphire
noble sapphire
mental berry
#

smart, will try that next time

median tulip
timid coyote
#

For the 3rd boss of temple of the jade serpent can you leap away to avoid getting bit by the tank buster?

deep spruce
#

Heard there's a way for tanks not to get webbed on last platform on Sennarth Mythic - anyone can explain what that is?

upper hollow
#

how lock gates are supposed to be used in Rasza heroic? don't you use static field?

timid coyote
deep spruce
upper hollow
#

oh for Tempest Wing in P2?

deep spruce
#

yeah that one

upper hollow
#

so you have to click on the external gate to return back in the inner one

sick sentinel
#

ruby life pools 12 today maybe probably if i can manage it

hazy pine
#

How bad is Lariat for Prot?

lofty widget
#

it's fine

#

in line with the other embelishments

hard birch
#

Hello, does anyone know if Demoralizing Shout reduces both spell and physical damage? (Retail/Dragonflight)

fading tide
#

Anyone playing ranged classes to mix it up from tanking?

sturdy sable
reef holly
#

Played holy priest late into SL season 3 and got ksm pretty easily without really watching any dungeon guides 😄

rigid relic
#

Anyone got a talent build for progressing on Razsageth HC?

hard birch
inland raft
#

Grieftorch or whetstone at dame ilvl?

restive cypress
#

I use Grieftorch for ST/Tyrannical and whetstone for fort/aoe situations

nimble laurel
#

Can you still dodge/parry while channeling grieftorch?

rough egret
#

Gift is meh right? From HoV

craggy pilot
#

anyone had any issues with Lashes Toxin when playin with Shaman?
just had shaman using Poison Cleansing Totem in a +20 where it didnt cleanse the poison

inland mesa
#

It cleanses a few stacks per tick, not the entire thing

craggy pilot
#

ah, so its basically useless then :<

#

need to rotate stuns i guess then?

past lark
#

Should be anyway

craggy pilot
#

if we have boomkin / resto shaman in grp, is it just better off having the boomie spec into Cleanse Poison?

#

cus that will cleanse all the stacks ?

inland mesa
#

Yes, always, but a monk or evoker or whatever else has full poison cleanse negates the fight

#

Should be, yes

inland mesa
#

And bitter immunity if needed

past lark
#

Tbh if you have rsham, should already be able to have them on lock. You do shockwave and rsham does double cap totem

craggy pilot
#

ye so double cap totem + shockwave + poison cleanse totem should be enough?

cold dragon
inland mesa
#

They're the same, they all cleanse completely for a reset

craggy pilot
#

i was getting like 50 stacks that ticked for 350k

waxen surge
#

sorry, prolly asking a question that’s been asked 100 times. what do y’all do against Kokia in RLP? on 15 tyrannical at 390 ilvl I was getting 1-shot to the searing ability. if I didn’t have 100% rage, it was guaranteed death. I only survived it when I had shield block + ignore pain twice, but sometimes even with that I’d still die. how are y’all cycling abilities for that?

inland raft
waxen surge
#

I wasn’t paying attention, is Wall up again that soon?

oak echo
#

hopefully it goes without saying but also make sure you're switching to dstance for it if you're normally sitting in battle

#

you can take the double shield wall talent

waxen surge
#

fuck, good call. I forgot about dstance

lime urchin
#

Oh boy

oak echo
#

make sure you're using reflect for inferno from the ele as that happens right before searing blows and helps smooth out the damage before you get smacked

waxen surge
#

ha, I managed to remember that one but not d-stance. whoops

#

but good tips, thank you. I think with the keys I’ve been doing so far I haven’t needed d-stance so I forget it’s an option

fading tide
#

How would I find the hunter discord?

oak echo
craggy pilot
#

for the bird boss, do we basically sit Dstance the entire fight? i feel like if i have to swap back and forth on the bleed, and the screech, im already in Dstance like 90% of the time

edgy grail
#

If you have to switch for everyone then sure

#

But you shouldn’t need to when you have CDs rolling

slim dove
craggy pilot
#

ye we just had it bug on 19

#

very fun

#

but man the Bleed ticks hardddd

slim dove
#

first, orbs didnt spawn, died on 7th screech, 2nd, boss didnt spawn until a few minutes after we got back to it. 3rd, second goal orbs didn't count towards 3/3 goal

oak echo
#

the wind goal bugs out if you wipe still i'm pretty sure

slim dove
#

Ah so you wipe once and its bricked, cool

oak echo
#

that's been my experience at least

slim dove
#

im still big mad about it lmao

steady steppe
#

.

craggy pilot
#

what it only removes 1 stack

#

hahahah thats horrible honestly

fallow osprey
#

Should be 1 per pulse no?

edgy grail
#

Yea basically worthless

fallow osprey
#

Oh this is lasher so worthless ya lol

oak echo
#

doesn't shaman still just completely remove it with their normal dispel?

craggy pilot
#

only Magic & Curse

oak echo
#

assume you meant doesn't do poison but rip

craggy pilot
#

oh ye

oak echo
#

they changed that for DF or am i like wildly misremembering that?

rough ibex
#

anyone have a good Plater profile to show important kicks/sticks as a different color, or larger, or glowing? Something to indicate it for M+

craggy pilot
#

i think the poison totem was better once

fallow osprey
#

Do you all get better results lusting vex or post-nerf tree?

oak echo
#

i just thought they always did magic curse and poison. either way that sucks that the totem doesn't work well

craggy pilot
#

ye totem is only useful for tree boss

fallow osprey
craggy pilot
#

and it doesnt even do shit on that lol 🤣

lofty widget
#

tree 1st vex 3rd

mortal brook
#

ive liked rushing ele lusting then having it for birb

#

clearing buncha trash till its up

#

tree is pretty chill to those two now

#

esp birb since its a ramp

fallow osprey
oak echo
#

i've still been lusting tree, clearing trash till there's like 3 mins on lust then going to bird trash + boss. i think vex needs lust the least of the 3

oak echo
#

though tree is pretty chill now

lofty widget
#

vex is rough on the group so you wanna get that down faster than bird imo

sick sentinel
#

critical?

lone eagle
#

Did you sit

sick sentinel
#

im not sure what happened there

lone eagle
#

You had to have sat

sick sentinel
#

i dunno, but thats when fury warrior OP took over again

drifting needle
#

Lust vex > tree > lust crawth (for tyr anyways)

#

Nurfed tree is whatever

sick sentinel
#

tree boss is everyone stacks , then i bolt the branc followed by pummel, shockwave and cowstomp

drifting needle
#

Or lust vex > trash > lust crawth > tree

sick sentinel
#

i just immeadiately sit the tree out with a bolt the second it spawns in

#

so it can never begin to cast for 4 s

weary saddle
#

stacking at tree works well

#

just abit hard to see the ancient branch

sick sentinel
#

i have that branch on lock down now

tender cove
# lone eagle Did you sit

They removed that ability because we were abusing vengance with it. Doesn't crit anymore. Or at least havent for a long long time.

weary saddle
#

i use disrupting shout also to mass aggro quickly

sick sentinel
#

im just very shocked how i got melee crit to death as tank in retail wow

lone eagle
#

It definitely works. Brew used it in Shadowlands

sick sentinel
#

what is this, 2004 and im a paladin with not enough defense rating?

tender cove
#

They specifically removed it in mop because we were abusing it, to stack vengance crazy high on pulls.. I'm to lazy but im 100% sure you can find blue post about it being removed. Maybe it got reintroduced but they def removed it.

mortal brook
#

You can sit to get crit still

lone eagle
#

They probably specifically made Vengeance not scale off crit damage

#

But sitting has continued to work since ever

#

Which is why in ToP people sat in the duel to speed it up

sick sentinel
#

ohhh, thats how the warrior died to something else nvm my bad

tender cove
#

Okok. Interesting, i just musta remember wrong, my bad. @lone eagle

#

but now im super interested, how the hell did you sit and why yogi?

lone eagle
#

Np, I just know because I popularized it for Brew parsing

#

Did it during Sludge prog among other things

tender cove
sick sentinel
#

ahhh i stood in, or took 2 arcane fissures in a row

#

440k total dmg

sick sentinel
#

so, once again, yogi is standing in the fire

#

pouring gasoline everywhere

tender cove
unborn sable
#

is there a very tonky build that is viable in some high keys? is prot just very reliant on healer?

mortal brook
#

Good here ♥️

unborn sable
#

getting bent in 19 AA bird and ruby 2nd boss

lone eagle
trim hill
#

Those are 2 of the only bosses the healer needs to actually heal you in addition to you using your defensives properly

lone eagle
#

but 2nd boss Ruby you can only do so much

#

You put up your defensives, you IV maybe

#

if they don't heal you, you die

sick sentinel
#

BDK is fine because they have tons of healing so they can live lord on fights

tender cove
#

For those that dont know. Thesteve is like the best and nicest person in the whole wow community. I will never forget you bro @mortal brook ❤️

mortal brook
#

No u

sick sentinel
#

live for absurd amounts of time with little to no player healing

lone eagle
#

BDK is just exceptional at bleed damage

#

because Blood Shield

sick sentinel
#

and movment abilities and pulling

#

but, they are wheelcair outside of DA and WW

#

and have to manage DR's properly and use them correctly, bdk don't just send shit dps cd's like we do

unborn sable
#

i only have 2pc but, damn. yeah those bosses gaping me. I am having 1-2 cds up for each peck but when i'm drained i'm drained. pug healer can't rely on external. Was with an evoker and refused to TD me until i was 5%

slim dove
#

second boss rlp and crawth are gaping everyone rn

lone eagle
#

Those fights are just tank healing fights

slim dove
#

happens when crawth effectively gets a 30ish% tankbuster dmg buff in 1 hotfix

lone eagle
#

Or rather

sick sentinel
#

final boss AA is a total push over if u get to it and have dps

lone eagle
#

they are healer fights in general

#

if healer sucks, you wipe

#

which tbh is pretty annoying, used to be pretty easy to carry a mediocre healer in SL

slim dove
#

Or if crawth bugs you just wipe kek

sick sentinel
#

only way you lose to final AA is if dps is dog shit and cant kill it before it wincons by time

lone eagle
#

That too

weary python
#

Man on heroic broodkeeper I had to drop into the fray for heavy repercussions and bolster. There's so much damage on that fight like what the shit.

jagged pier
#

U shouldnt have needed both

#

Hr and ed with bulwark is 100% uptime

weary python
#

Yeah well it was a progression fight that was hectic as shit so I took both to cover me. Maybe next week.

sharp lake
#

What loot spec are we supposed to be in?

oak echo
#

whichever one has the loot you want

#

if you want dps trinkets, go arms or fury depending on if you want a chance at 1h weapons

#

if you want tank stuff go prot

chrome falcon
#

bolster's not gonna give you any defensive value

weary python
chrome falcon
#

yeah that's what i meant

#

speccing defensively is correct

#

but bolster isn't actually any defensive benefit

lilac jay
#

after 142minutes we did a 21 jade temple just to realize that the first boss did not count lol

west kayak
#

Finally get the NO weapon "Strike Twice" and not really impressed by it... Thought it was supposed to be "The" Prot weapon.

mighty crater
#

Ouch

drifting pecan
#

Depleted a good 19 smbg cause of ppl getting dot on nerzhul 😦

#

So depressing

#

With like 8 minutes left 🤣

#

Do you lust on anger boss in tjs on a 20+ ?

brisk sandal
#

The dot from the purple wall with the adds? Yeah the hit box of it feels weird

neat sable
#

if you ever come close to bricking a smbg there is something very wrong with your group

deep spruce
#

Cos i watched gingi and meeres doing a 20 earlier, wiping on last boss and gingi dying on the second attempt, clearing it with 2 mins left

slim dove
#

last boss on tyr can be lame if it targets the same person 5x in a row with omen

craggy pilot
#

how do people handle adds on last boss nokhud in 18+? 🤔

neat sable
#

kick/grip them in and lust

craggy pilot
#

yea so kick before stuns right?

slim dove
oak echo
#

i play with a rogue/ww and we just cc the 2 on the right and kill 2 at a time

slim dove
#

otherwise, assign kicks and stops

craggy pilot
#

i feel DK would be a massive help

slim dove
#

dk cheats it ofc

craggy pilot
#

but is that too much to build grp around DK?

brisk sandal
#

I always say before the fight i will kick close right add, if the others dont get kicked well...

slim dove
#

ive had a fine time just hard CCing a pair of them

oak echo
#

yeah blind/para

craggy pilot
#

oh thats huge actually

slim dove
#

usually lust to get through it asap and help healer out, fight is free after that

#

spell reflect carries dps lul

scenic mural
#

What do you spell reflect on the last phase?

neat sable
#

the tank buster

#

reflects for full damage

slim dove
#

conductive strike.

oak echo
#

sometimes it won't be back up but you can reflect the thunder strike he does right after too

scenic mural
#

Holy fuck

#

I had no idea i was like this thing trucks

slim dove
#

first 2 you can reflect

#

3rd you eat and healer dispels

#

rinse repeat.

scenic mural
#

Im an idiot thank you

olive steeple
#

hey guys, need some advice about how to handle chilling tantrum on broodkeeper diurna. is it spell blockable? its the aoe pulse from the frost dragon

steel mauve
#

raid pops personals if needed in range of it and just kill it faster

lone eagle
#

like, the furthest outside

#

2nd to the outside is fine, it has a reasonably long path

#

but the outside one literally finishes its path and cuts you off for >5s lmao

oak echo
#

well it's a warrior expecting them to count to 2 is asking a lot

iron lagoon
#

Hey is strike twice worth upgrading or not that good ?

ionic roost
#

The outside one also stands still for ground effects twice

#

The only downside to the outside one is a bad malevolence bait will fuck you

sick sentinel
#

is there any argument to be made to run over the 10% hp, nokhud offensive

spice lotus
#

!embellishment

cinder storm
#

pins

inland mesa
#

I don't know if I make shield just to get a 3 ilvl upgrade or the ring next week with the spark. Ring sims higher but not sure how much 3 ilvl makes a difference on shield

foggy flame
#

Which one consumables to use for m+ ? Wowhead and icyveins have different suggestion.. ( food , flashk , item enchants , " prepots " , weapon enchants )

sweet summit
#

mainstat food
mainstat pot
eye of the storm/glacial fury phial
haste gems/enchants or sim it
frozen/sophic weapon enchant (sim it)

indigo lotus
#

Which stat are u going for as a prot warr? Normally it was haste / versa, but now some ppl are going for crit/mastery, is it 4p set bonus reason?

spark forge
#

what us best guys haste crit or haste verse? og i see people stack crit more

lofty widget
#

crit/vers is just preference with crit being slightly more dmg

#

but ofc ilvl>>haste>crit/vers>mastery

heady stratus
#

guys between lariat or frostfire belt, which is the best to craft in 418? The other will be in 405 few days.

limpid anchor
#

Sim it

foggy flame
#

What about Howling rune and Whetsone ? Which one is better ?

iron lagoon
#

Sorry to repost it, but is strike twice sword worth valor investments for m+ ? Or haste/versa better (or another one better)

fallow osprey
#

I think weapons in general are a very hefty valor investment, would focus on other slots personally

limpid anchor
#

Depends on the keys you are doing

blazing condor
#

they should just make every valor upgrade cost the same

#

its stupid

#

especially with a valor cap

#

go play 8 weeks to get a max rank 2h

limpid anchor
#

I wouldn’t valor into it bcs I can just get a 421 from vault, and it’s expensive af. So I just use the crafted web at 418

tropic tangle
#

weaps are valor sucks, you can use a conc primal infusion to make a 418

candid coral
#

i installed the Khakhan's prot warrior WA and i cant seem to get it to always be active. it only pops up when im in combat. Could anyone help me?

hazy thicket
#

load tab is what you need

#

there will be a bunch of options via checkboxes

candid coral
sick sentinel
#

got 392 ruby life pools chest just now

lofty widget
#

all-totem or grieftorch for keys?

kind rapids
#

Whats the best way to deal with the 3rd boss jade temple damage

plush pagoda
#

Reflect

kind rapids
#

She trucks

#

It's not reflectable or are you refering to the md reduction?

lofty widget
#

rotate cds with your healer, use IV after every hit

kind rapids
#

And stack up ignores

whole vortex
#

How do you deal with the orbs on last boss of Azure vault?

#

just leap away and hope for the best?

#

and if no leap just cry?

limpid anchor
#

Yes

mental scarab
#

Use thundering pre move

bold turret
uncut notch
#

Any tips for Hyrja?

#

Was having to wall each cast and was getting absolutely assfucked

#

The big frontal beam thingy

limpid anchor
#

Def stance and sr

#

Should be enough

#

But the first one she casts hits for more than the rest for whatever the reason

uncut notch
limpid anchor
#

Maybe im just going mad

uncut notch
#

Good shout

#

ty

bold turret
#

If your topped In def stance and using SR or demo shout I think you should be fine if you have max IP up

unkempt imp
#

Is there a pandemic window for shield block charges? Example if im tanking a mob for a long time can I just sent out both charges of shield block back to back or am I losing uptime by doing that?

sweet summit
#

duration is additive up to a cap of 3x tooltip duration
bolster ignores this cap during LS

last mason
#

i can either craft 418 gloves to replace 385 but limit my remaining tier to only shoulder and pants, or craft 418 boots to replace 395 but leave an extra tier slop option open

#

thoughts?

brisk gust
#

What do you spellblock in RLP?

upper hollow
#

tanknotes site is not updated, any alternatives for mechs?

sweet summit
steady steppe
#

lool whetstone

unkempt narwhal
#

What emblishments would you use? Lariat / Fang on Weapon / Flavor Pocket on Shield?

runic sparrow
#

belt + lariat

scenic turtle
#

Is the belt better than the helm? Guessing belt bonus is it's not a tier slot and no main stat so the ilvl hot doesnt matter as much?

steady steppe
#

upgrade lariat or shield first with concentrated infusion?

torpid junco
#

Shield more impactful from the ilvl increase

steady steppe
sick sentinel
#

this one is we have to split up right

steady steppe
#

ik shield would be better for the ilvl but lariat is better long term

sick sentinel
#

im a bit confused and it killed me last time, i wasn't paying attention when it killed me, not lookin at screen

torpid junco
#

@sick sentinel you probably died to the swirlieit spawns. You have to move immediately

#

It’s only thing that should 1 shot from that ability

sick sentinel
#

this one, killed me twice, i think i was told not to stand in the fires, so, i just gotta note what theey look like and not stand in them

wanton shale
#

i heard that turning off depths effects also makes the effects easier to see in AA, depending on the color of the ground and the color of the effect some ppl have trouble seeing it clearly

#

do yall know what graphics settings impacts trees/leaves? there are spots in CoS if I turn the view angle wrong way damn trees are blocking everything lol

#

i have a +14 key i wanna push to a 16 for weekly vault and see if I can get rid of those branches blocking some views

deft hazel
#

guys

#

idk what to say.. why do people die to bones every key now lmao

#

literally how many keys i did in this dungeon and people fall over on last boss lol

oak echo
torpid junco
#

I do agree it seems like more wipes lately on last boss shadow moon

oak echo
wanton shale
#

ahh cool, i'm color blind so i've always had more difficulty with some effects lol

oak echo
#

Like you can't miss the vex or arcane rain swirlies

deft hazel
oak echo
#

My favorite on that boss is the warlocks who just hard cast in the middle of the Lazer beams

deft hazel
#

never joining chill group posts xd ends up so much worse than it should

wanton shale
#

those skeles for last SB boss, do yall like doing the middle ones or the far sides? If the malevolent thing is baited in bad spot it gets kinda scary

#

the middle ones would give more wiggle room if bad bait?

oak echo
#

I pick one closest to the middle that won't go through a beam

wanton shale
#

ok cool gonna try that

sick sentinel
inner rapids
#

can anyone tell me why i cant loot or get the quest for expedition packs?
i did it on a horde char at the start of the expansion and now i cant do it on any other char and they dont shwo up

candid coral
#

hey guys, im pretty new to prot. is fueled by violence or brutal vitality a better pick for M+?

lone eagle
#

Fueled by Violence better in lower content

#

IMO Brutal Vitality better in higher content

blazing condor
#

people run both

lone eagle
#

once Brutal Vitality gets fixed completely, its pretty much default better in all content

candid coral
#

ok so im starting to get into the 12-15 key range. which are you going with?

lone eagle
#

I'd say just play Brutal Vitality

#

extremely small impact

candid coral
#

gotcha. ty

#

is the M+ build on icy veins a pretty good build over all? or is there somewhere i can see better builds?

gloomy turret
#

Bunch of info in pins if you haven't read it

#

Probably almost everything your asking is in pins already

candid coral
#

alrighty, ty

rough egret
#

At what point should i consider droping barbaric?

solar blade
#

never pick barbaric for m+

jagged pier
crimson snow
#

Hey all, anyone know what the best embellishments are to use? I want to use the food one as one, but not sure if I should get armor spikes as the second?

jagged pier
#

armor spikes is rubbish

crimson snow
#

whats better

jagged pier
#

pretty much any of them

ionic fern
#

They are all trash.

jagged pier
#

true

ionic fern
#

Just sim yourself.

crimson snow
#

hahaha its free effect at least, I'll do the fang one i guess

ionic fern
#

Also, the food one doesn't count as one of the 2 embellishments.

#

I think.

#

👀

crimson snow
#

really?

jagged pier
#

also that

sterile bough
#

does any1 know how does first boss the big 3 hits works? somtimes when he has the buff it slaps for full ip and half hp and somtimes for 0 is it just parry?

jagged pier
#

first boss of what?

oak ivy
#

have there been any blueposts about shield block/ip nerfs? heard somebody mention it n i'm quakin in me boots cuz im bad

jagged pier
#

not yet but wouldnt be suprised

blazing condor
#

pwarrs can no longer block physical damage okayge

#

too op

rough egret
#

Soo food on ring it is then 😄

sterile bough
visual musk
#

This discord will be on fire when prot gets nerfed. You will know

sterile bough
#

ye quite important information which dung

#

kek

agile pebble
#

What should i spend my valor points in?

jagged pier
#

i mean u can see the stacks above her head

#

so u know when shes gunna do it

sterile bough
#

thats what I asked about

#

her stacks somtimes deal 0 dmg

jagged pier
agile pebble
#

so i have to get my 2 BIS trinkets drop of at least ilvl base of 405

#

and upgrade them?

jagged pier
#

well that depends because your dps trinkets are from raid expect whetstone

agile pebble
#

i thought this was tank section

#

not dps

jagged pier
#

yer

#

thats still what u use your valor on

#

and auto attack ring

agile pebble
#

but my autoatack ring

#

is low ilvl

#

i should wait for a 405 ilvl one

#

as far as i know right?

jagged pier
#

402 probs fine

#

my point is u dont waste valor on armour and stuff thats easily replaceable

#

u only have a limited amount of valor

brisk gust
#

Lads are you playing Spellblock in 19+?

#

In RLP

jagged pier
#

I would

sudden palm
#

For sure

ionic fern
#

Yes.

brisk gust
#

where are u utilizing it except bosses?

ionic fern
#

Really easy

#

Whenever taking magic damage.

jagged pier
#

the dragons

ionic fern
#

Wild, i know.

jagged pier
#

the casters at the start

#

the casters at the end

#

cinderbolts in the middle

#

i know its really crazy but if theres magic damage imma probably use spell block

blazing condor
#

if magic

#

spell block

#

its a 2 min cd

toxic pewter
#

1.5

whole vortex
#

is the spell reflect WA in the pins broken?

chilly brook
#

Maybe a hotfix broke it

#

But I doubt it?

#

Idk I don’t personally use it

whole vortex
#

it didn't show me anything when I ran some keys today

#

and when I click the link now it's flagged for 142 alerts

chilly brook
#

Some of the dungeon hotfixes might have borked it

#

Only way to know is to ask @fierce juniper

fierce juniper
chilly brook
#

Might just need to reinstall the WA

#

And or make sure it’s up to date

craggy pilot
#

when do i get my whetstone guys?

chilly brook
cinder storm
#

It didn't work for me either, I don't really need it but its nice having the extra info

chilly brook
craggy pilot
chilly brook
#

You get it when you stop caring about it

craggy pilot
#

got my own 17 key today

#

invited a 3 man premade

slim dove
#

3rd academy today that big bird bugs

craggy pilot
#

and they got ring and left 😄

#

should have just done the 17 with guildies fml

craggy pilot
#

or did it work like the other guy said eaelier?

#

cant remember who it was

cinder storm
craggy pilot
#

seen Ring like 4-5 times

#

trinket once

slim dove
#

on this 3rd run

craggy pilot
slim dove
#

the cunt doesn't spawn any balls

craggy pilot
#

ye i had a lot of hope for Academy this week

cinder storm
#

Saw trinket last run today, ring twice, but my solace is I got ring first two vaults along with tier set

craggy pilot
#

as i learned about the poison and the poison cleansing totem from shaman

#

but then i figured it only removes 1 stack pr tick 🤣

#

maybe i should just upgrade my Blazebinder...

#

even though i dont rly like that trinket

tropic star
#

where do i find a list for bis crafting when i wanna start my warri tank career?

blazing condor
#

wep / shield / lariat

cinder storm
#

^

#

Wait, shield first

blazing condor
#

yeah was gonna say

#

in no particular order

#

but shield > wep

tropic star
#

embelish on wep or shield?

cinder storm
#

pins

#

but I did mine on shield, when food embelish drops I'll put it on weap

strong forum
blazing condor
#

bruh 47

chilly brook
blazing condor
#

thats just criminal

#

you're in the wrong court

tropic star
#

where do i find a bis gear for m+ list?

chilly brook
#

Not because it’s not fun but more because I’ve just been doing other things

rough egret
chilly brook
#

Oh and also why focus on so much m+ when I knew it was gonna get gutted

#

I’m sure temple will get nerfed again

#

Specifically dark claw

spice radish
#

@craggy pilot sup

#

still looking for it

jagged pier
#

same

prisma crane
#

whetstone?

#

feels like me during the Legion TW M+ in SL

#

this time around i've seen 4 whetstones and 3 rings

craggy pilot
#

what other dungeon trinkets could be worth getting though? 🤔

#

is the nokhud dmg trinket any good?

prisma crane
#

tbh this time around the raid trinkets feel so good

craggy pilot
#

yea, i only have 1 raid trinket though

#

the Rumbling Ruby

#

considering wearing my Granyth Enduring Scale 🤔

lucid dew
#

Scale and whetstone seem like the only worth dungeon trinkets

#

Scale seems worse than all totem though

craggy pilot
#

why do you want Scale though?

#

it seems kinda lackluster to me when i read it

#

just some random proc absorb, that you cant control

gilded mauve
#

I don’t understand what crafting is

lilac jay
#

What about idol of trumpling hoofs

raven zealot
#

how does this look for tanking rasz normal? doing it on my 380 warrior alt for the first time

visual musk
#

what am i missing on second boss of RLP. the searing wounds dot is clapping through IP...

rough egret
#

DR

#

wall it

visual musk
#

cant wall all of them tho. its 500k damage in defensive stance in 4 seconds

rough egret
#

Defender Aegis can help

visual musk
#

that might just be the play. fuck he hits hard

rough egret
#

yeah 😄

frosty mango
#

The health on use one

fallen pulsar
#

double shield wall, potion + last standing one of them, hold demo shout for the hit

visual musk
#

yea.. he slams the fuck out of me. i had full IP and still just fell over

frosty mango
#

It's not the best choice but it's better than what I had

fallen pulsar
#

you will need an external from the healer imo, to make it smoother to rotate through

#

an evoker can cleanse it once

#

shaman totem also works

brisk gust
#

How many chillstorms are you going through when u do RLP on Tyrannical?

quiet monolith
#

Are most of you using that macro that automatically fires and ignore pain before casting shield slam and only using that macro when it's a refreshed cool down?

#

Or I guess I'm asking for clarity if there is any reason to not use it on a proc

fallen pulsar
#

I manually IP, but I can put inputs for both at the same time with my binds/setup

rough egret
#

SR also helps as the elemental spread its dot at that time aswell

quiet monolith
#

I still plan to manually do it and have access to all of them individually but I do like the idea of having a separate button that I can know is always being efficient every time I get the flashing recharge

tropic star
#

!wa

umbral kernel
#

does crit auto attack generate more rage in prot ?

heady jetty
#

So, Avoidance, Leech or Speed? <.< Can't really figure out which enchants to do for tbh - Currently running speed but i see alot others using leech

umbral kernel
#

ty

heady jetty
#

just leech on everything then xD rgr

solar sandal
#

uh...how does elemental lariat work?

#

i saw in here people were saying lower stat or w/e was priority

#

but that doesnt seem to be the case at all

#

and it also seems to use gem sockets equipped elsewhere and not just on the lariat?

rough egret
#

All my gems are haste vers and im getting vers buff

chilly brook
#

It’s literally just on gems

#

Any gems

solar sandal
#

this was my gem setup for a raid pull

chilly brook
#

No crazy science to it

#

Why

#

Are you running

#

Leech gem

solar sandal
#

and here's my shit

#

what are you talking about?

#

there's no leech gem

chilly brook
rough egret
#

Thats enchant

solar sandal
#

are you mental?

rough egret
#

On wrists

chilly brook
#

Certainly looks like a leech gem kekw

lofty widget
#

i'd use that

chilly brook
#

Weird graphic for it tbh

rough egret
#

Flame is crit?

solar sandal
#

flame is crit

rough egret
#

Frost is vers?

chilly brook
#

But anyways Lariat just uses whatever gems you have slotted, not just neck gems

solar sandal
#

oh i guess it's taking the lower stat

#

but across all gems equipped

#

and not just lariat

#

i think that's what i got mixed on

chilly brook
#

Yea

#

It uses any gem

solar sandal
#

i read it as just the lariat

#

thanks guys

inland garnet
#

Is Shield of the Hearth hotfixed not to count as embelishment? Or

zealous grove
#

Whats the highest ilvl gear we've seen from aiding the accord? Idk if I bother doing it.

proud dock
#

any good strat for handling bleeds? dump rage into IP? with CDs

brisk gust
#

Any tips on how to Survive Searing Wounds?

#

RLP Second boss

plush pagoda
#

Pray

brisk gust
#

Took 70k dmg each tick and we wiped at like 20%

#

2 Times on an 19

final gust
#

funny rlp moment

ionic fern
#

That's about it.

past lark
past lark
brisk gust
#

Maybe play Battle-Scarred Veteranhere?

plush pagoda
#

Would BI remove it?

past lark
#

Yeah i figured lol

#

Save IV for it. Let a couple ticks go off and IV

#

And yes spam IP and shield wall as necessary

brisk gust
#

Is it healer fault or my fault here?

past lark
#

You should never be low besides for bleeds because you can spell reflect screech and cut the damage down considerably

#

If you’re a prot warrior and you die, it’s almost always your fault

#

RLP is a good dungeon for double shield wall talent, forgot the name

atomic inlet
#

hey guys 1 question

toxic pewter
#

for temple third boss is there any way to determine where the wave will spawn outside of the ring

atomic inlet
#

at end of tempel of jade thos adds who cast claws can i spell block them?

mortal brook
toxic pewter
#

so that is the same each time I take it

atomic inlet
past lark
#

Actually not 100% sure on that

final gust
#

yeah dark claw is spellblockable

#

also spell reflectable

atomic inlet
#

nice

past lark
#

Yeah was just gonna say

atomic inlet
#

damn they hit hard

past lark
#

You can reflect those

atomic inlet
#

i was in 19

atomic inlet
#

i got one shot

past lark
#

Haunting gaze is a different story though

ionic fern
#

Those were mine on 19

final gust
#

I pick spell block entirely because of those adds lmao

#

that last pack

atomic inlet
#

ye i had it didnt know what can spell block

untold adder
plush pagoda
#

Does bitter immunity work on searing dot

final gust
#

there's a thing in the pins

atomic inlet
#

is there a sheet or site ica n read for blockabl spells?

past lark
#

Yup without spell block you just blow up

atomic inlet
brisk gust
#

@ionic fern Why does it diff so much in dots on yours

sand mason
#

anyone have the swap stance macro?

ionic fern
#
  • IP.
#

🤷

mortal brook
past lark
#

I need to make myself a weakaura that says “YOU’RE NOT IN A STANCE, IDIOT” every time i respec from fury back to prot

final gust
#

I mean same

ionic fern
#

Just don't play fury.

final gust
#

kekw

ionic fern
past lark
final gust
#

mwahi is a quality mod

cinder storm
#

I think a wa can be created for CoS rp, after so many runs I feel the npc can be found after one clue, it is linked to the first npc being female or male and if they are left or right

#

Maybe I've just farmed cos too much, just got the ring

#

I tend to get the impostor with just one clue or maybe two

past lark
#

What are you, some kind of detective?

cinder storm
#

tis but a hunch

atomic inlet
#

can i find out wich spell is reflectable without a wa? just want to read about them isntead of wa

ionic fern
#

Yes

#

Pins

#

we already told you.

sturdy locust
#

Anyone know if i can Spell Reflect something cool on Broodkeeper?

ionic fern
#

PINS

sturdy locust
#

Right

#

I'm an idiot

#

Sry

ionic fern
steel mauve
#

does say at the top to check pins before asking questions

proper orbit
#

maybe its a bad habit from dps brain, but should i always hold a little rage instead of dumping all of it, sometimes outside of cds i just feel rage starved and cant get defensives up

steel mauve
#

@fierce juniper if we were to add a sound to any of the conditions for being active which one would it be? for the spell reflect weakaura

hazy sluice
#

charge harm / intervene help mouseover macro here? any1 😄

ionic fern
mortal brook
# ionic fern PINS

Hey I'm looking for the completely overhauled Genshii Spell Reflection Tracker WeakAura. The one that tracks incoming Reflectable and import Magic Damage spell casts for Vault of the Incarnates and all 8 Mythic+ dungeons.

Do you know where i can get the link?

hazy sluice
#

with 1 button charge mouseover for enemy and intervene for friendly

proper orbit
#

probably that too because im just kind of mashing with fury brain

ionic fern
#

Never heard of it.

mortal brook
#

ah heck, ty anyways

steel mauve
silk sandal
#

does anyone know if there is a way in logs to see how much IP comes from what sources? I am curious how much is comign from casts vs brutal vitality vs 4p

somber shell
#

should I drop the ritual shell in favor of the ruby whelp shell trinket?

#

I assume the shield from the ritual is trash at the level I'm at (~15-16s)

solemn magnet
#

Yes you should

deft hazel
#

gladge how should i prepare for a +18 tjs

#

im worried about that 3rd boss tbh

visual musk
#

have dps save lust and cds for 70%

#

same with healer personal

#

and health pot

craggy pilot
proper orbit
#

shockwave is a frontal

craggy pilot
#

ye thats what i thought

#

so dunno why it mentions shockwaves seperately

proper orbit
#

shockwaves stun too, maybe thats why

steel mauve
#

technically speaking a frontal would be any thing that immediately causes harm at the moment of cast, and a shock wave would be a triangular cone that expands from the boss so there is time to dodge after cast? otherwise they are the same thing

#

ya think most spells classified as shockwaves stun, so maybe that

craggy pilot
#

i kinda wanted to change it somehow so i could know the difference between snap frontals, and follow frontals

#

if you get what i mean

proper orbit
#

yea, dragon breath vs frontal from guy in sbg

craggy pilot
#

but dunno if shockwave / frontal is a good enough word for that

proper orbit
#

i kind of troll my group because i forget he follows me lmao

craggy pilot
#

yea was thinking about doing a "breath on me" thing

proper orbit
#

and i try to move out of it

neon elk
#

To how much can i take down Sw cd on ST asuming corect gameplay?

craggy pilot
#

1-1,5min i think

sturdy locust
#

How does Demoralizing Shout work with tankbusters that leave bleeds?
Do you have to use Demoralizing Shout before the tankbuster, and in that case does that reduce the damage of the bleed too?

lofty widget
#

while demo is up you take 20 % less dmg from the bleed

#

doesnt have to be up before the bleed is applied

sturdy locust
#

Allright.

#

Thanks 🙂

lone eagle
#

In general dots don't snapshot normally

#

This also matters in the reverse with raging

fair bane
#

is the tier set > ilvl? I don't raid, but got 2x in vault the last weeks, but they are starting to lag behind on ilvl.

old flame
fierce juniper
#

if that doesn't work for you lmk

prisma echo
#

Fellow prot warriors how are you dealing with Searing Blows on RLP 2nd boss? It eating me alive, i can survive maybe 1 or 2 but on third im lack of CD its also so much burst dmg its hard for me to mitigate. Any tips or lifehacks?

viscid latch
#

Dstance + Spell reflect?

steel mauve
fierce juniper
#

yeah that's exactly what I just added

steel mauve
#

ok, is it the one you linked earlier or did you update it after you linked it?

fierce juniper
#

same link, you'll just have to import the new version

steel mauve
#

ok got it, just had to change the sound, tyvm

tender pollen
#

is the cobals assembly tank ring still good ?

jagged pier
velvet epoch
#

What tinker are you guys running in your eng bracers? I was using brez for awhile but man its hard to pull it off in combat

prisma echo
#

Offtop question: what is now fastest way to lvl up alt from 60-70? Any experience from you guys?

tender cove
craggy pilot
visual sonnet
#

can you spell reflect the deathbolt cast in shadowmoon? im too afraid to try

tender cove
chrome falcon
#

what's deathbolt

#

oh the ghost adds? yeah

craggy pilot
#

and some as Frontal on me

#

in the wA

tender cove
#

thats the only thing I can guess at that makes sense. If not? no idea, sry bro.

craggy pilot
#

nah didnt notice

tender cove
#

For me, they would be the same

craggy pilot
#

im thinking maybe the difference is if they are wide arc or short arc

#

dunno

#

but would much rather know if the frontal is movable or not

tender cove
craggy pilot
#

like if i can sidestep or not

sturdy sable
#

Oh if its targeted or just casted

#

Better way of saying that

craggy pilot
#

yes true

tender cove
#

Not even sure I could tank properly without all those sound queues anymore xD

craggy pilot
#

yea i would like to have a WA with all of the frontals

#

where i could individually change the msg

steel mauve
#

could make it yourself, just take time figuring all the spells

craggy pilot
#

true

#

changed the Construct frontal from COS to be called "SLAM ON ME"

#

as it isnt rly a frontal anyway

tender cove
craggy pilot
#

and then i know Slam is the one that follows, and Frontal is the Queling

craggy pilot
toxic pewter
#

Is HoV timer really tight or am I just getting bad groups

craggy pilot
#

since its setup with custom options

tender cove
craggy pilot
#

it has this thing in the "custom options" was thinking if i could somehow add an extra, and make it called something like "BREATH ON ME"

#

for stuff that follows me around

#

since i feel that is usually breaths

#

or just make it say "TARGETED FRONTAL ON ME"

tender cove
#

That WA is extremely well done. Hats off to whoever did it. Haven't seen such nice comments in ages.

craggy pilot
#

was just wondering if i could just make all the ones use the Frontal Message, and change the Shockwave message to what i need

#

and then change the targeted ones into the Shockwave

craggy pilot
steel mauve
#

ya thats a really well made WA, holy shit

jolly harness
#

I've noticed from m+ logs that i don't use revenge anywhere near enough, do u guys use it when u get to a certain amount of rage? like 85%? I think i get too worried that i won't have enough rage to use on blocks, and that's why i don't use it enough 😛 You guys got any pointers on how you decide when to use it?

tender cove
tender cove
obsidian path
#

My issue with those messages is that it adds a lot of chat bubbles that clutter the space right where there isn't enough

craggy pilot
#

but i cant change the msg on a Spell to spell basis

#

its grouped up

steel mauve
#

ya the custom options tab is really nice, not sure ive seen a WA go that indepth with user friendly customization

tender cove
craggy pilot
#

i have a bit that have that lvl of Custom Options honestly

tender cove
obsidian path
#

I recently disabled chat bubbles to get a clearer vision in melee

steel mauve
#

click on tank calls in the group, go to actions and expand that custom box, is it there that you can change the typing of what spells are?

tender cove
craggy pilot
#

yeye i found that part, but im pretty sure it still uses the Messages from the Custom Options

craggy pilot
tender cove
#

Can you tell me exactly what you want to change? I've never used that WA before.

craggy pilot
#

oh hold on i think i found some way of doing it

steel mauve
#

you should be able to add a new breath category in the actions and label spells as breath

craggy pilot
#

i just hardcode it into the Code Editor

#

so it overwrites the options

#

i cant rly find any corelation between which spells are mentioned as SHOCKWAVE though

#

the Arcane Ravager Riftbreath from Academy

#

thats the one that jumps and does frontal right?

#

3rd boss Temple frontal is also noted as a Shockwave

#

halls dragon breath is also set as a Shockwave, which is snapped onto you

covert vector
#

guys; hittet fresh 70, could build "first" crafted item,- what should it be? sword? :x got 353 gearscore..

steel mauve
#

it was probably easier for them to do it that was as that is how their brain processes those abilities, but is different for other people

frozen quartz
#

does 4p refresh the duration of ignore pain

blazing condor
#

very important piece

craggy pilot
covert vector
craggy pilot
#

its probably a good reason when i hear it 😄

tender cove
#

thats the list of what i defines as shockwaves far as abilities goes

craggy pilot
#

i found that

tender cove
#

then you have triggers for each of them, shockwave, frontal, etc and whatevers is written in that is what triggers it

steel mauve
#

im willing to bet its some thing aws simple as, well thats how my brain perceives those abilities, or maybe they didnt even think of a breath mechanic as an option

tender cove
#

so if you adda new trigger called "breath" and you change the "SHOCKWAVE" to "Breath"

#

it will work as you want

craggy pilot
#

might as well just call all of them Frontal tbh

tender cove
#

or simply add a new line

craggy pilot
#

i just added it into the aura.env.captions in the top

tender cove
#

im sorry bro, im not even sure what we're trying todo. I'm just trying to help xD

craggy pilot
#

but currently just trying to figure what the spells called "SHCOKWAVE" have in common

covert vector
craggy pilot
tender cove
covert vector
tender cove
#

and you will see what it considers shockwave

craggy pilot
#

you can even make shield without embelishment

covert vector
craggy pilot
#

what kind of "account" do i need to make comments on WA though 🤔

tender cove
#

for example, Arcane Ravager: Riftbreath, is tagged as shockwave

frozen quartz
#

get food embellishment on shield so you can get the frostfire belt and lariat

craggy pilot
#

kinda wanna ask in the comments 😄

tender cove
#

but i dont even know what that is

frozen quartz
#

or weapon

craggy pilot
#

is why im confused

#

Riftbreath is the worm in front of Vexamus, that dashes to a target, and does frontal back on tank

#

and you sidestep it

tender cove
craggy pilot
#

Lightning BReath from Halls, is the one that is targeted, and follows you if you move

#

the "true" just means if it ignores what target the mob has i think

tender cove
#

Its referenced in the start of that code, to return an options value

#

and all of the spells are not in options

#

so it makes sense

#

But yeh, i'm def out of my depth here. hopefully someone who knows that they're doing can assist you bro

craggy pilot
#

ill try to log into WA and ask the author

#

oh i can login with my disc acc nice 😄

tender cove
#

I would say though, with how extremely well made that WA is. There is some obvious logic we are both missing hahah

steel mauve
#

pretty much any WA i actually need, i make myself and rarely ever have to dabble in custom strings

craggy pilot
#

did you make your own Thundering WA? 🤔

worldly wing
#

any advice on trying to get the threat onthe lashers on tree boss quickly when they spawn, been having issues with like thunderclap, and only 1 aoe taunt not being enough, and revenge doesnt hit them all

steel mauve
#

so i dont have the experience to understand much of that, i have basic coding knowledge from older style games and stuff, but rudimentery at best lol

craggy pilot
tender cove
jade trench
worldly wing
#

oh interesting, thank you on both, yeah ill try and space those cds out better too

compact jackal
#

From a 17 Shadowmoon. I'm thinking based.

craggy pilot
compact jackal
#

that's the easier option

#

still no idea why it's wanting me to make this 411

jade trench
#

Soon thats going to be a 21 AV, then you're screwed

craggy pilot
reef holly
craggy pilot
#

@tender cove from the author in the comments (responding earlier to someone else)

#

so maybe the idea is shockwaves are static, and frontals are following

winged grail
#

How big is the Block stat? I.e. impact of a shield on tankiness?

craggy pilot
#

big

#

its our most important defensive item

urban portal
#

nothing matters more than block

#

unless you are using the crit vers build

winged grail
#

Are we able to quantify the impact somehow?

#

I'll sim DTPS

winged grail
craggy pilot
tender cove
craggy pilot
#

its bigger than anything else, and more important

craggy pilot
tender cove
raven zealot
#

would it be better to run ruby considering mostly in m+?

craggy pilot
void bramble
#

Anyone have spell reflect wa that works on mythic and raid

craggy pilot
#

as i worked as software dev for 3 yrs

toxic pewter
#

anyone else notice eranog shield is like offcenter on back

tender cove
#

Change "Shockwave" to "Move out-bad-thingy" and submit a code change 😄

craggy pilot
#

lul

#

change Shockwave to Breath, and im happy haha

delicate kraken
#

Thank god they fixed those beams for last boss in CoS

#

Now I can actually see them

craggy pilot
#

or no, shockwave should be frontal, and frontal should be breath is what i mean lol

tender cove
craggy pilot
#

i could

#

maybe ill try that

#

and see if it helps me out

#

but theres also the option of "SLAM ON ME"

#

which i would also assume is snapped onto me, but is round instead of a cone

last mason
#

whats the meta lust timing for algethar tree now

grave socket
weary saddle
#

i just noticed this says parry, dodge but NOT BLOCK. so not good for protwar?

torn jay
#

You’re absolutely parrying more than once every 30s

violet flume
#

Anyone feel like prot has 10 million abilities?

#

Maybe I just need to play it more lol

weary saddle
edgy grail
#

But yea just gotta play more

violet flume
#

I feel like I need to take everything off my bars and do a tanking ui profile

warm plinth
sacred geyser
#

having an organized UI can help a lot for sure. bc prot has only like 5-6 skills that you use very often but a ton of buttons for cooldowns/situational stuff.

violet flume
#

Yeah I need to rearrange what I’m having on a modifier. Might be time to try an mmo mouse too

karmic plinth
#

Is there a way to hit more conductive strikes on last boss ? I feel like it only adds up with every other one

prisma arch
#

Is there a weakaura for Shield wall charges, since Atrocity ui for tanks is kinda shit

sacred geyser
#

whatever works. i’d say as long as your keybinds are like reachable on your keyboard just bind stuff in a way that makes sense for you. (for example: having similar bind for defensives or a key you always use for interrupts/mobility)

violet flume
#

I use 1-6 vxz and two mouse buttons and then shift alt and ctrl if needed

sacred geyser
slim dove
violet flume
#

Yeah I can’t move some abilities because I’ve had them there since vanilla. Like 4 is charge because charge was the 3rd ability you learned xD

crystal dirge
#

is there an actual strategy for temple 2nd boss? people timed +24 but it seems to just do an insane amount of dmg on lower keys too

prisma arch
sacred geyser
sacred geyser
warm plinth
cinder storm
prisma arch
crystal dirge
#

i see, thanks thanks

cinder storm
sacred geyser
#

has a rage bar, sb, and ip tracker

craggy pilot
#

what do people pop for Savage Peck on Crawth Academy? 🤔

#

it happens very frequently, and is chunking my HP on Tyr +17-19

strong forum
craggy pilot
#

i pop Reflect for every Screech i guess

edgy grail
#

He casts a lot it seems so you can bank a pretty decent IP

limber flame
edgy grail
#

I dont use anything on screech

craggy pilot
#

and the bleed is physical

#

and its rdy for every screech

edgy grail
#

Fair enough yea

#

I wouldn’t commit much else tbh

craggy pilot
#

like i still pop SR on every Trinket in last boss COS, even though its a joke

#

but theres nothing else to SR on that fight anyway

craggy pilot
#

it fucking trucks me on a +17

edgy grail
#

If you are inside cooldowns no

sacred geyser
#

i just try to have a big ignore pain for savage peck and use victory rush once the chunk comes in to make it easier on heals

edgy grail
#

If you need it outside of CDs sure

#

Yea victory rush is prettt good for the bleed

#

What ilvl are you?

craggy pilot
#

405

#

the dmg in Academy and AV just feels so much higher than other dungeons

#

the frontal on Azureblade also takes like >50% of my hp

#

even through SR

limber flame
#

spell block

craggy pilot
crystal dirge
#

vault actually feels super fine imo save for azureblade frontal

edgy grail
#

Pretty sure its every 2 iirc

craggy pilot
#

ye ok

#

so i guess i Last Stand one, IV next

#

then Wall

#

then IV again

edgy grail
#

I dont use anything if I have avatar and demo

sacred geyser
#

honestly the biggest difference maker is gonna be how big your IP is

#

dont sleep on a big ignore pain pool the mitigation is a big deal

edgy grail
#

Yea you can bank some rage for it

craggy pilot
#

still hits like a truck through IP though

sacred geyser
#

yeah but like 50% of a truck if its big enough 🙂

edgy grail
#

If you have 60k+ in IP you shouldn’t die

craggy pilot
#

this is probably bad example, since healer had alrdy got 1shot to frontal 😄

edgy grail
#

I mean

#

You got the debuff at 14% HP

limber flame
#

ye this just sounds like healer prob at this point

craggy pilot
#

but still it does like 500-600k dmg over 10sec

#

in a +17

sacred geyser
#

not a lot of counterplay there lol

craggy pilot
#

meanwhile in COS 1st boss everything is dodgeable, and i take literally 0 dmg

sacred geyser
#

but yeah the savage peck on high keys is gnarly asf just need big ip and defensive cds

#

and if healer dies to frontal 🤷‍♂️

craggy pilot
#

do people sit Dstance on that boss on high keys?

#

since i feel 10sec duration of a lot of dmg

limber flame
#

ill swap every so often

craggy pilot
#

then very slight downtime

#

and he does new one

limber flame
#

prob swap for screech/ so SR/D stance for screech. Healer really dont have a lot to do outside screech and peck

sacred geyser
#

i go into everything in battle stance but depending on how hard its hitting/how much healing you are getting you can swap to dstance

#

no shame in it brother that bird is cringe

craggy pilot
#

hmm ye ok

#

so its just healer check boss

#

i guess

sacred geyser
#

tank/healer check

limpid flame
#

Any calculation on how much ilvl 4set is worth?