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Still going to be a minimum +20 upgrade so just trying to take the best path to bring it up to speed.
This p much happened with me I crafted a weapon and then I got a 415 weapon in vault
Hey what's the uptime of the allied bracers in M+ worst case scenario (ranged healer + 3 rdps)
30 yard range for the effect so as bad as they make it for you
Got it 🙂
Decoration of Flame 376 vs Primal Turtel Shell 379. What would you pick? Shell does around 11% of my healing in a key. Decoration of Flame 4,7% heal and 2,3% dmg... Upside for Decoration is I can use it "at will"... Hope I get trinkets on a higher ilvl soon..
sim with fire blessing on shell vs decoration of flane
pick which does better damage
so you would not go for the defensive option with shell?
at that ilvl you're better off going for something that will give you good throughput
we cannot get shell any higher I guess, 382 i read somewhere but no idea where
you dont need tankiness from trinkets when the spec itself is strong defensively
Amy tips on first Boss RLP? Im ilvl 398 with 7% Vers with no set pieces. I spammed all my rage into IP, used spell reflect on CD on the cast and cried the rest of time.
Ever cast hit for like 160k
hey there. any site where i can check all the tank busters in m+?
Hey all, how much haste is too much haste? I have 30% haste should i try to get more or spec into versatility
do subjugated souls reset aggro if dominate gets interrupted? I have had a couple times where someone gets 1 shot meleed in the first pull after 1st SBG boss, but it seems like i have aggro according to my plater's nameplate color
or do they have periods where they fixate randomly?
dont interupt dominate, aoe them down (dont stun / interupt)
they do absolutely nothing when channelling until you stun them / interrupt
Hey does someone know if you can remove embellishments when recrafting gear?
yeah you just right click it
and it asks if you want to remove it
ok great, ty!
I don't interrupt it, but I'm trying to figure out why people get meleed randomly and it's just a random theory thinking it may be related to someone stunning it
someone had an unfortunate death in a very close +20 so now it's bothering me. seen it here and there in the past too
The adds' threat is tied to the dominators themselves. You need to make sure you're getting threat on them.
There’s a powder on the AH you have to buy if you’re sending an order.
how do you guys deal with 2nd boss in ruby life pools?
on high keys it just feels pain even with defensive cd
Demo shout and dstance didn't feel enough for me on 2nd boss rlp. 115k ticks on the bleed.
thank you! TIL Sometimes i don't get aggro on the far back one since I thought it doesn't do anything if left alone
2 charges shield wall talent, to start
smart, will try that next time
The powder is from a vendor at the obsidian fortress @narrow vigil
For the 3rd boss of temple of the jade serpent can you leap away to avoid getting bit by the tank buster?
Heard there's a way for tanks not to get webbed on last platform on Sennarth Mythic - anyone can explain what that is?
No it always hits
how lock gates are supposed to be used in Rasza heroic? don't you use static field?

lock gate through the pushback circle ring thing
oh for Tempest Wing in P2?
yeah that one
so you have to click on the external gate to return back in the inner one
ruby life pools 12 today maybe probably if i can manage it
How bad is Lariat for Prot?
Hello, does anyone know if Demoralizing Shout reduces both spell and physical damage? (Retail/Dragonflight)
Anyone playing ranged classes to mix it up from tanking?
Last time i played a ranged class it was engineer in wild star
Resto druid- dps classes take too long to get invites to mythic +
Played holy priest late into SL season 3 and got ksm pretty easily without really watching any dungeon guides 😄
All damage
Anyone got a talent build for progressing on Razsageth HC?
That's what I thought, but wanted to make sure. Thanks!
Grieftorch or whetstone at dame ilvl?
I use Grieftorch for ST/Tyrannical and whetstone for fort/aoe situations
Can you still dodge/parry while channeling grieftorch?
Gift is meh right? From HoV
anyone had any issues with Lashes Toxin when playin with Shaman?
just had shaman using Poison Cleansing Totem in a +20 where it didnt cleanse the poison
It cleanses a few stacks per tick, not the entire thing
Should be anyway
if we have boomkin / resto shaman in grp, is it just better off having the boomie spec into Cleanse Poison?
cus that will cleanse all the stacks ?
Yes, always, but a monk or evoker or whatever else has full poison cleanse negates the fight
Should be, yes
are they better than boomie?
And bitter immunity if needed
Tbh if you have rsham, should already be able to have them on lock. You do shockwave and rsham does double cap totem
ye so double cap totem + shockwave + poison cleanse totem should be enough?
any idea why this WA might not work for me ? https://wago.io/SpellReflectionTracker
They're the same, they all cleanse completely for a reset
i was getting like 50 stacks that ticked for 350k
sorry, prolly asking a question that’s been asked 100 times. what do y’all do against Kokia in RLP? on 15 tyrannical at 390 ilvl I was getting 1-shot to the searing ability. if I didn’t have 100% rage, it was guaranteed death. I only survived it when I had shield block + ignore pain twice, but sometimes even with that I’d still die. how are y’all cycling abilities for that?
Wall, healer, wall, other cds, prayer to whatever deity you feel might be listening
I wasn’t paying attention, is Wall up again that soon?
hopefully it goes without saying but also make sure you're switching to dstance for it if you're normally sitting in battle
you can take the double shield wall talent
fuck, good call. I forgot about dstance
Oh boy
make sure you're using reflect for inferno from the ele as that happens right before searing blows and helps smooth out the damage before you get smacked
ha, I managed to remember that one but not d-stance. whoops
but good tips, thank you. I think with the keys I’ve been doing so far I haven’t needed d-stance so I forget it’s an option
How would I find the hunter discord?
for the bird boss, do we basically sit Dstance the entire fight? i feel like if i have to swap back and forth on the bleed, and the screech, im already in Dstance like 90% of the time
If you have to switch for everyone then sure
But you shouldn’t need to when you have CDs rolling
fight bugged for me 3 seperate times last night
first, orbs didnt spawn, died on 7th screech, 2nd, boss didnt spawn until a few minutes after we got back to it. 3rd, second goal orbs didn't count towards 3/3 goal
the wind goal bugs out if you wipe still i'm pretty sure
Ah so you wipe once and its bricked, cool
that's been my experience at least
im still big mad about it lmao
yea it shredded me when i tried with a resto sham
.
Should be 1 per pulse no?
Yea basically worthless
Oh this is lasher so worthless ya lol
doesn't shaman still just completely remove it with their normal dispel?
doesnt dispel curses
only Magic & Curse
assume you meant doesn't do poison but rip
oh ye
they changed that for DF or am i like wildly misremembering that?
anyone have a good Plater profile to show important kicks/sticks as a different color, or larger, or glowing? Something to indicate it for M+
i think the poison totem was better once
Do you all get better results lusting vex or post-nerf tree?
check quazii youtube video
i just thought they always did magic curse and poison. either way that sucks that the totem doesn't work well
ye totem is only useful for tree boss
Luckyone profile is nice, but you might want to increase the size of the nameplates after you import
and it doesnt even do shit on that lol 🤣
why not both?
tree 1st vex 3rd
ive liked rushing ele lusting then having it for birb
clearing buncha trash till its up
tree is pretty chill to those two now
esp birb since its a ramp
Oh I definitely want it for bird is why
i've still been lusting tree, clearing trash till there's like 3 mins on lust then going to bird trash + boss. i think vex needs lust the least of the 3
run with 2 x shield wall talent
though tree is pretty chill now
vex is rough on the group so you wanna get that down faster than bird imo
Did you sit
im not sure what happened there
You had to have sat
i dunno, but thats when fury warrior OP took over again
tree boss is everyone stacks , then i bolt the branc followed by pummel, shockwave and cowstomp
Or lust vex > trash > lust crawth > tree
i just immeadiately sit the tree out with a bolt the second it spawns in
so it can never begin to cast for 4 s
i have that branch on lock down now
They removed that ability because we were abusing vengance with it. Doesn't crit anymore. Or at least havent for a long long time.
i use disrupting shout also to mass aggro quickly
im just very shocked how i got melee crit to death as tank in retail wow
It definitely works. Brew used it in Shadowlands
what is this, 2004 and im a paladin with not enough defense rating?
They specifically removed it in mop because we were abusing it, to stack vengance crazy high on pulls.. I'm to lazy but im 100% sure you can find blue post about it being removed. Maybe it got reintroduced but they def removed it.
You can sit to get crit still
They probably specifically made Vengeance not scale off crit damage
But sitting has continued to work since ever
Which is why in ToP people sat in the duel to speed it up
ohhh, thats how the warrior died to something else nvm my bad
Okok. Interesting, i just musta remember wrong, my bad. @lone eagle
but now im super interested, how the hell did you sit and why yogi?
Np, I just know because I popularized it for Brew parsing
Did it during Sludge prog among other things
yeh, i used to spam sit macros to get crit too. I miss vengance with a passion xD
I almost came to visit you yesterday but then changed my mind again 😦 ❤️
How you been?
is there a very tonky build that is viable in some high keys? is prot just very reliant on healer?
Good here ♥️
getting bent in 19 AA bird and ruby 2nd boss
pwar probably has the easiest time out of anything but BDK on those fights
Those are 2 of the only bosses the healer needs to actually heal you in addition to you using your defensives properly
but 2nd boss Ruby you can only do so much
You put up your defensives, you IV maybe
if they don't heal you, you die
BDK is fine because they have tons of healing so they can live lord on fights
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No u
live for absurd amounts of time with little to no player healing
and movment abilities and pulling
but, they are wheelcair outside of DA and WW
and have to manage DR's properly and use them correctly, bdk don't just send shit dps cd's like we do
i only have 2pc but, damn. yeah those bosses gaping me. I am having 1-2 cds up for each peck but when i'm drained i'm drained. pug healer can't rely on external. Was with an evoker and refused to TD me until i was 5%
second boss rlp and crawth are gaping everyone rn
Those fights are just tank healing fights
happens when crawth effectively gets a 30ish% tankbuster dmg buff in 1 hotfix
Or rather
final boss AA is a total push over if u get to it and have dps
they are healer fights in general
if healer sucks, you wipe
which tbh is pretty annoying, used to be pretty easy to carry a mediocre healer in SL
Or if crawth bugs you just wipe kek
only way you lose to final AA is if dps is dog shit and cant kill it before it wincons by time
That too
Man on heroic broodkeeper I had to drop into the fray for heavy repercussions and bolster. There's so much damage on that fight like what the shit.
Yeah well it was a progression fight that was hectic as shit so I took both to cover me. Maybe next week.
What loot spec are we supposed to be in?
whichever one has the loot you want
if you want dps trinkets, go arms or fury depending on if you want a chance at 1h weapons
if you want tank stuff go prot
if you're solo tanking the boss bolster is super unnecessary yeah just hit SS when it comes up
bolster's not gonna give you any defensive value
I'm solo tanking during phase 1 not during phase 2
yeah that's what i meant
speccing defensively is correct
but bolster isn't actually any defensive benefit
after 142minutes we did a 21 jade temple just to realize that the first boss did not count lol
Finally get the NO weapon "Strike Twice" and not really impressed by it... Thought it was supposed to be "The" Prot weapon.
Ouch
Depleted a good 19 smbg cause of ppl getting dot on nerzhul 😦
So depressing
With like 8 minutes left 🤣
Do you lust on anger boss in tjs on a 20+ ?
The dot from the purple wall with the adds? Yeah the hit box of it feels weird
if you ever come close to bricking a smbg there is something very wrong with your group
When were u last there?
Cos i watched gingi and meeres doing a 20 earlier, wiping on last boss and gingi dying on the second attempt, clearing it with 2 mins left
last boss on tyr can be lame if it targets the same person 5x in a row with omen
how do people handle adds on last boss nokhud in 18+? 🤔
kick/grip them in and lust
yea so kick before stuns right?
in pugs, cc a pair
i play with a rogue/ww and we just cc the 2 on the right and kill 2 at a time
otherwise, assign kicks and stops
i feel DK would be a massive help
dk cheats it ofc
but is that too much to build grp around DK?
I always say before the fight i will kick close right add, if the others dont get kicked well...
CC as in Blind?
ive had a fine time just hard CCing a pair of them
yeah blind/para
oh thats huge actually
usually lust to get through it asap and help healer out, fight is free after that
spell reflect carries dps lul
What do you spell reflect on the last phase?
conductive strike.
sometimes it won't be back up but you can reflect the thunder strike he does right after too
Im an idiot thank you
hey guys, need some advice about how to handle chilling tantrum on broodkeeper diurna. is it spell blockable? its the aoe pulse from the frost dragon
kill the dragon faster
raid pops personals if needed in range of it and just kill it faster
Had an 18 where this warr was convinced he had to focus the outside skeleton
like, the furthest outside
2nd to the outside is fine, it has a reasonably long path
but the outside one literally finishes its path and cuts you off for >5s lmao
well it's a warrior expecting them to count to 2 is asking a lot
Hey is strike twice worth upgrading or not that good ?
The outside one will stop and leave a space until the rest of the line gets to the same distance then continue
The outside one also stands still for ground effects twice
The only downside to the outside one is a bad malevolence bait will fuck you
is there any argument to be made to run over the 10% hp, nokhud offensive
!embellishment
pins
I don't know if I make shield just to get a 3 ilvl upgrade or the ring next week with the spark. Ring sims higher but not sure how much 3 ilvl makes a difference on shield
Which one consumables to use for m+ ? Wowhead and icyveins have different suggestion.. ( food , flashk , item enchants , " prepots " , weapon enchants )
mainstat food
mainstat pot
eye of the storm/glacial fury phial
haste gems/enchants or sim it
frozen/sophic weapon enchant (sim it)
thanks the fast reply !
Which stat are u going for as a prot warr? Normally it was haste / versa, but now some ppl are going for crit/mastery, is it 4p set bonus reason?
what us best guys haste crit or haste verse? og i see people stack crit more
crit/vers is just preference with crit being slightly more dmg
but ofc ilvl>>haste>crit/vers>mastery
guys between lariat or frostfire belt, which is the best to craft in 418? The other will be in 405 few days.
Sim it
What about Howling rune and Whetsone ? Which one is better ?
Sorry to repost it, but is strike twice sword worth valor investments for m+ ? Or haste/versa better (or another one better)
I think weapons in general are a very hefty valor investment, would focus on other slots personally
Depends on the keys you are doing
they should just make every valor upgrade cost the same
its stupid
especially with a valor cap
go play 8 weeks to get a max rank 2h
I wouldn’t valor into it bcs I can just get a 421 from vault, and it’s expensive af. So I just use the crafted web at 418
weaps are valor sucks, you can use a conc primal infusion to make a 418
i installed the Khakhan's prot warrior WA and i cant seem to get it to always be active. it only pops up when im in combat. Could anyone help me?
you're the man, ty
got 392 ruby life pools chest just now
all-totem or grieftorch for keys?
Whats the best way to deal with the 3rd boss jade temple damage
Reflect
rotate cds with your healer, use IV after every hit
And stack up ignores
How do you deal with the orbs on last boss of Azure vault?
just leap away and hope for the best?
and if no leap just cry?
Yes
Use thundering pre move
I’ve heard the orbs follow highest healing so try to limit IP usage and SR the dragon strike so reduce damage intake
Any tips for Hyrja?
Was having to wall each cast and was getting absolutely assfucked
The big frontal beam thingy
Def stance and sr
Should be enough
But the first one she casts hits for more than the rest for whatever the reason
oh shit i didnt even think to SR
Maybe im just going mad
If your topped In def stance and using SR or demo shout I think you should be fine if you have max IP up
Is there a pandemic window for shield block charges? Example if im tanking a mob for a long time can I just sent out both charges of shield block back to back or am I losing uptime by doing that?
duration is additive up to a cap of 3x tooltip duration
bolster ignores this cap during LS
i can either craft 418 gloves to replace 385 but limit my remaining tier to only shoulder and pants, or craft 418 boots to replace 395 but leave an extra tier slop option open
thoughts?
What do you spellblock in RLP?
tanknotes site is not updated, any alternatives for mechs?
check sr sheet
What emblishments would you use? Lariat / Fang on Weapon / Flavor Pocket on Shield?
belt + lariat
Is the belt better than the helm? Guessing belt bonus is it's not a tier slot and no main stat so the ilvl hot doesnt matter as much?
upgrade lariat or shield first with concentrated infusion?
Shield more impactful from the ilvl increase
this one is we have to split up right
ik shield would be better for the ilvl but lariat is better long term
im a bit confused and it killed me last time, i wasn't paying attention when it killed me, not lookin at screen
@sick sentinel you probably died to the swirlieit spawns. You have to move immediately
It’s only thing that should 1 shot from that ability
this one, killed me twice, i think i was told not to stand in the fires, so, i just gotta note what theey look like and not stand in them
i heard that turning off depths effects also makes the effects easier to see in AA, depending on the color of the ground and the color of the effect some ppl have trouble seeing it clearly
do yall know what graphics settings impacts trees/leaves? there are spots in CoS if I turn the view angle wrong way damn trees are blocking everything lol
i have a +14 key i wanna push to a 16 for weekly vault and see if I can get rid of those branches blocking some views
guys
idk what to say.. why do people die to bones every key now lmao
literally how many keys i did in this dungeon and people fall over on last boss lol
What do you look at instead of your screen in a fight
I do agree it seems like more wipes lately on last boss shadow moon
They recently made a ton of them way brighter if you haven't been in there the last couple days
ahh cool, i'm color blind so i've always had more difficulty with some effects lol
Like you can't miss the vex or arcane rain swirlies
way 2 frustrating, its like i tell them exactly what not to do and they do it and wipe over and over lol
My favorite on that boss is the warlocks who just hard cast in the middle of the Lazer beams
never joining chill group posts xd ends up so much worse than it should
those skeles for last SB boss, do yall like doing the middle ones or the far sides? If the malevolent thing is baited in bad spot it gets kinda scary
the middle ones would give more wiggle room if bad bait?
I pick one closest to the middle that won't go through a beam
ok cool gonna try that
responded to something here, it was poor form
can anyone tell me why i cant loot or get the quest for expedition packs?
i did it on a horde char at the start of the expansion and now i cant do it on any other char and they dont shwo up
hey guys, im pretty new to prot. is fueled by violence or brutal vitality a better pick for M+?
Fueled by Violence better in lower content
IMO Brutal Vitality better in higher content
people run both
once Brutal Vitality gets fixed completely, its pretty much default better in all content
ok so im starting to get into the 12-15 key range. which are you going with?
gotcha. ty
is the M+ build on icy veins a pretty good build over all? or is there somewhere i can see better builds?
Bunch of info in pins if you haven't read it
Probably almost everything your asking is in pins already
alrighty, ty
At what point should i consider droping barbaric?
never pick barbaric for m+
u shouldnt be running it in the first place
Hey all, anyone know what the best embellishments are to use? I want to use the food one as one, but not sure if I should get armor spikes as the second?
armor spikes is rubbish
whats better
pretty much any of them
true
Just sim yourself.
hahaha its free effect at least, I'll do the fang one i guess
really?
also that
does any1 know how does first boss the big 3 hits works? somtimes when he has the buff it slaps for full ip and half hp and somtimes for 0 is it just parry?
first boss of what?
have there been any blueposts about shield block/ip nerfs? heard somebody mention it n i'm quakin in me boots cuz im bad
not yet but wouldnt be suprised
Soo food on ring it is then 😄
sbg
This discord will be on fire when prot gets nerfed. You will know
What should i spend my valor points in?
trinkets
so i have to get my 2 BIS trinkets drop of at least ilvl base of 405
and upgrade them?
well that depends because your dps trinkets are from raid expect whetstone
but my autoatack ring
is low ilvl
i should wait for a 405 ilvl one
as far as i know right?
402 probs fine
my point is u dont waste valor on armour and stuff thats easily replaceable
u only have a limited amount of valor
I would
For sure
Yes.
where are u utilizing it except bosses?
the dragons
Wild, i know.
the casters at the start
the casters at the end
cinderbolts in the middle
i know its really crazy but if theres magic damage imma probably use spell block
1.5
is the spell reflect WA in the pins broken?
it didn't show me anything when I ran some keys today
and when I click the link now it's flagged for 142 alerts
Some of the dungeon hotfixes might have borked it
Only way to know is to ask @fierce juniper
It should still work, a hotfix generally won't break things unless they somehow changed a spell ID or something.
Never
It didn't work for me either, I don't really need it but its nice having the extra info


3rd academy today that big bird bugs
on the first time you pulled it?
or did it work like the other guy said eaelier?
cant remember who it was
my brother from another mother
i have 47 runs in COS now
seen Ring like 4-5 times
trinket once
damn sadge bro
the cunt doesn't spawn any balls
ye i had a lot of hope for Academy this week
Saw trinket last run today, ring twice, but my solace is I got ring first two vaults along with tier set
as i learned about the poison and the poison cleansing totem from shaman
but then i figured it only removes 1 stack pr tick 🤣
maybe i should just upgrade my Blazebinder...
even though i dont rly like that trinket
where do i find a list for bis crafting when i wanna start my warri tank career?
wep / shield / lariat
embelish on wep or shield?
That's more m+ than I've done all xpac lol
bruh 47
Truuuuueeeee
where do i find a bis gear for m+ list?
Not because it’s not fun but more because I’ve just been doing other things
so if I play like this, its ok right? 🙂
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUkRRARpFRRBBNVUVEVERFVYVVQDQBA for M+
Oh and also why focus on so much m+ when I knew it was gonna get gutted

I’m sure temple will get nerfed again
Specifically dark claw
yes
same
whetstone?
feels like me during the Legion TW M+ in SL
this time around i've seen 4 whetstones and 3 rings
what other dungeon trinkets could be worth getting though? 🤔
is the nokhud dmg trinket any good?
tbh this time around the raid trinkets feel so good
yea, i only have 1 raid trinket though
the Rumbling Ruby
considering wearing my Granyth Enduring Scale 🤔
Scale and whetstone seem like the only worth dungeon trinkets
Scale seems worse than all totem though
why do you want Scale though?
it seems kinda lackluster to me when i read it
just some random proc absorb, that you cant control
I don’t understand what crafting is
What about idol of trumpling hoofs
how does this look for tanking rasz normal? doing it on my 380 warrior alt for the first time
what am i missing on second boss of RLP. the searing wounds dot is clapping through IP...
cant wall all of them tho. its 500k damage in defensive stance in 4 seconds
Defender Aegis can help
that might just be the play. fuck he hits hard
yeah 😄
I have a fully upgraded pvp trinket I use explicitly for that garbage ass boss
The health on use one
double shield wall, potion + last standing one of them, hold demo shout for the hit
yea.. he slams the fuck out of me. i had full IP and still just fell over
It's not the best choice but it's better than what I had
you will need an external from the healer imo, to make it smoother to rotate through
an evoker can cleanse it once
shaman totem also works
How many chillstorms are you going through when u do RLP on Tyrannical?
Are most of you using that macro that automatically fires and ignore pain before casting shield slam and only using that macro when it's a refreshed cool down?
Or I guess I'm asking for clarity if there is any reason to not use it on a proc
I manually IP, but I can put inputs for both at the same time with my binds/setup
SR also helps as the elemental spread its dot at that time aswell
I still plan to manually do it and have access to all of them individually but I do like the idea of having a separate button that I can know is always being efficient every time I get the flashing recharge
!wa
does crit auto attack generate more rage in prot ?
So, Avoidance, Leech or Speed? <.< Can't really figure out which enchants to do for tbh - Currently running speed but i see alot others using leech
Leech.
ty
just leech on everything then xD rgr
uh...how does elemental lariat work?
i saw in here people were saying lower stat or w/e was priority
but that doesnt seem to be the case at all
and it also seems to use gem sockets equipped elsewhere and not just on the lariat?
All my gems are haste vers and im getting vers buff
this was my gem setup for a raid pull
Thats enchant
are you mental?
On wrists
Certainly looks like a leech gem kekw
i'd use that
Weird graphic for it tbh
Flame is crit?
flame is crit
Frost is vers?
But anyways Lariat just uses whatever gems you have slotted, not just neck gems
oh i guess it's taking the lower stat
but across all gems equipped
and not just lariat
i think that's what i got mixed on
Is Shield of the Hearth hotfixed not to count as embelishment? Or
Whats the highest ilvl gear we've seen from aiding the accord? Idk if I bother doing it.
any good strat for handling bleeds? dump rage into IP? with CDs
Pray
funny rlp moment
Plan CD's.
Inform your healer.
That's about it.
Wait as in it takes all of your gems equipped into account and gives you stats based on lowest?? So not just what i have in my neck
Is this being asked because of bird boss in AA
Maybe play Battle-Scarred Veteranhere?
Would BI remove it?
yes
Yeah i figured lol
Save IV for it. Let a couple ticks go off and IV
And yes spam IP and shield wall as necessary
Is it healer fault or my fault here?
You should never be low besides for bleeds because you can spell reflect screech and cut the damage down considerably
If you’re a prot warrior and you die, it’s almost always your fault
RLP is a good dungeon for double shield wall talent, forgot the name
hey guys 1 question
for temple third boss is there any way to determine where the wave will spawn outside of the ring
at end of tempel of jade thos adds who cast claws can i spell block them?
I think NW, SW, SE, NE of boss
so that is the same each time I take it
so its possible?
Actually not 100% sure on that
nice
Yeah was just gonna say
damn they hit hard
You can reflect those
i was in 19
i got one shot
Haunting gaze is a different story though
Those were mine on 19
ye i had it didnt know what can spell block
O_O
Does bitter immunity work on searing dot
there's a thing in the pins
is there a sheet or site ica n read for blockabl spells?
Yup without spell block you just blow up
Pins.
Blockable/Reflectable Spells Sheet - https://tinyurl.com/ReflectGuide
this one need user password
@ionic fern Why does it diff so much in dots on yours
anyone have the swap stance macro?
CD's. 🙂
- IP.
🤷
I need to make myself a weakaura that says “YOU’RE NOT IN A STANCE, IDIOT” every time i respec from fury back to prot
I mean same
Just don't play fury.
kekw


I think a wa can be created for CoS rp, after so many runs I feel the npc can be found after one clue, it is linked to the first npc being female or male and if they are left or right
Maybe I've just farmed cos too much, just got the ring
I tend to get the impostor with just one clue or maybe two
What are you, some kind of detective?
tis but a hunch
can i find out wich spell is reflectable without a wa? just want to read about them isntead of wa
Anyone know if i can Spell Reflect something cool on Broodkeeper?
PINS
does say at the top to check pins before asking questions
maybe its a bad habit from dps brain, but should i always hold a little rage instead of dumping all of it, sometimes outside of cds i just feel rage starved and cant get defensives up
@fierce juniper if we were to add a sound to any of the conditions for being active which one would it be? for the spell reflect weakaura
charge harm / intervene help mouseover macro here? any1 😄
Staying alive is your main goal.
You should almost always try to keep 30 Rage just in case.
That said, maybe your issues stem from not using your abilities in proper priority?
Hey I'm looking for the completely overhauled Genshii Spell Reflection Tracker WeakAura. The one that tracks incoming Reflectable and import Magic Damage spell casts for Vault of the Incarnates and all 8 Mythic+ dungeons.
Do you know where i can get the link?
with 1 button charge mouseover for enemy and intervene for friendly
probably that too because im just kind of mashing with fury brain
You mean the one you can provide feedback on?
Never heard of it.

ah heck, ty anyways
#showtooltip
/cast [harm] Charge; [help] Intervene; [target=mouseover, help] Intervene
does anyone know if there is a way in logs to see how much IP comes from what sources? I am curious how much is comign from casts vs brutal vitality vs 4p
should I drop the ritual shell in favor of the ruby whelp shell trinket?
I assume the shield from the ritual is trash at the level I'm at (~15-16s)
Yes you should
https://wago.io/ltENrybhU/27
anyone use something like this, and know whats the difference between a Frontal and a Shockwave? 🤔
shockwave is a frontal
shockwaves stun too, maybe thats why
technically speaking a frontal would be any thing that immediately causes harm at the moment of cast, and a shock wave would be a triangular cone that expands from the boss so there is time to dodge after cast? otherwise they are the same thing
ya think most spells classified as shockwaves stun, so maybe that
i kinda wanted to change it somehow so i could know the difference between snap frontals, and follow frontals
if you get what i mean
yea, dragon breath vs frontal from guy in sbg
but dunno if shockwave / frontal is a good enough word for that
i kind of troll my group because i forget he follows me lmao
yea was thinking about doing a "breath on me" thing
and i try to move out of it
To how much can i take down Sw cd on ST asuming corect gameplay?
1-1,5min i think
How does Demoralizing Shout work with tankbusters that leave bleeds?
Do you have to use Demoralizing Shout before the tankbuster, and in that case does that reduce the damage of the bleed too?
while demo is up you take 20 % less dmg from the bleed
doesnt have to be up before the bleed is applied
is the tier set > ilvl? I don't raid, but got 2x in vault the last weeks, but they are starting to lag behind on ilvl.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/garrosh/ilyamurometz Anyone around to give some advice on this vault?
It's funny that you ask that because I just pushed an update that adds an option to play a sound on spell cast
if that doesn't work for you lmk
Fellow prot warriors how are you dealing with Searing Blows on RLP 2nd boss? It eating me alive, i can survive maybe 1 or 2 but on third im lack of CD its also so much burst dmg its hard for me to mitigate. Any tips or lifehacks?
Dstance + Spell reflect?
i was using one that was similar to yours, and i set it up for the condition of the bar showing up it would play a sound so i just used SR when ever it made the sound
yeah that's exactly what I just added
ok, is it the one you linked earlier or did you update it after you linked it?
same link, you'll just have to import the new version
ok got it, just had to change the sound, tyvm
is the cobals assembly tank ring still good ?
its physical so SR wont help
What tinker are you guys running in your eng bracers? I was using brez for awhile but man its hard to pull it off in combat
Offtop question: what is now fastest way to lvl up alt from 60-70? Any experience from you guys?
I always thought frontal meant its not exclusivly hitting the tank, as in "danger for dps".
but doesnt shockwave mean the same?
can you spell reflect the deathbolt cast in shadowmoon? im too afraid to try
I tried looking at the wago but I dont see where it mentions frontals and noting shockwave separately, what is the context?
yes
some frontals are mentioned as Shockwave on me
and some as Frontal on me
in the wA
Have you noticed if those being announced as shockwave also have a stun component to it?
thats the only thing I can guess at that makes sense. If not? no idea, sry bro.
nah didnt notice
For me, they would be the same
im thinking maybe the difference is if they are wide arc or short arc
dunno
but would much rather know if the frontal is movable or not
how do you mean?
like if i can sidestep or not
yes true
The dungeon WA i have with the soundpack tells me to move. So I mostly go on that.
Not even sure I could tank properly without all those sound queues anymore xD
yea i would like to have a WA with all of the frontals
where i could individually change the msg
could make it yourself, just take time figuring all the spells
true
changed the Construct frontal from COS to be called "SLAM ON ME"
as it isnt rly a frontal anyway
Can't you import that WA and just make some edits for the spells you want?
and then i know Slam is the one that follows, and Frontal is the Queling
could do yea, but not 100% sure how it works
Is HoV timer really tight or am I just getting bad groups
since its setup with custom options
I'm not the best with making WA's but i'm usually able to make some edits. I'll have a look and see if its some easy fix for ya.
it has this thing in the "custom options" was thinking if i could somehow add an extra, and make it called something like "BREATH ON ME"
for stuff that follows me around
since i feel that is usually breaths
or just make it say "TARGETED FRONTAL ON ME"
That WA is extremely well done. Hats off to whoever did it. Haven't seen such nice comments in ages.
was just wondering if i could just make all the ones use the Frontal Message, and change the Shockwave message to what i need
and then change the targeted ones into the Shockwave
you mean in the code i guess?
ya thats a really well made WA, holy shit
I've noticed from m+ logs that i don't use revenge anywhere near enough, do u guys use it when u get to a certain amount of rage? like 85%? I think i get too worried that i won't have enough rage to use on blocks, and that's why i don't use it enough 😛 You guys got any pointers on how you decide when to use it?
yeh but not only that, he's made custom options for almost anything so you can make most, if not all those edits but yourself without having to go into all the code
its impressive, very impressive tbh.
My issue with those messages is that it adds a lot of chat bubbles that clutter the space right where there isn't enough
yea i can enable/disable
but i cant change the msg on a Spell to spell basis
its grouped up
ya the custom options tab is really nice, not sure ive seen a WA go that indepth with user friendly customization
if you open it up and go into the child group "tank calls" you can change it there
i have a bit that have that lvl of Custom Options honestly
open up which?
and every single line of code seems to have excellent comments on what it actually does
I recently disabled chat bubbles to get a clearer vision in melee
click on tank calls in the group, go to actions and expand that custom box, is it there that you can change the typing of what spells are?
yeye i found that part, but im pretty sure it still uses the Messages from the Custom Options
yes i got that far already 😄
Can you tell me exactly what you want to change? I've never used that WA before.
oh hold on i think i found some way of doing it
you should be able to add a new breath category in the actions and label spells as breath
i just hardcode it into the Code Editor
so it overwrites the options
i cant rly find any corelation between which spells are mentioned as SHOCKWAVE though
the Arcane Ravager Riftbreath from Academy
thats the one that jumps and does frontal right?
3rd boss Temple frontal is also noted as a Shockwave
halls dragon breath is also set as a Shockwave, which is snapped onto you
guys; hittet fresh 70, could build "first" crafted item,- what should it be? sword? :x got 353 gearscore..
it was probably easier for them to do it that was as that is how their brain processes those abilities, but is different for other people
does 4p refresh the duration of ignore pain
shield is a good shout
very important piece
yea no clue bro, just makes no sense what the idea behind "shockwave" is
ah, good point tbh
its probably a good reason when i hear it 😄
thats the list of what i defines as shockwaves far as abilities goes
then you have triggers for each of them, shockwave, frontal, etc and whatevers is written in that is what triggers it
im willing to bet its some thing aws simple as, well thats how my brain perceives those abilities, or maybe they didnt even think of a breath mechanic as an option
so if you adda new trigger called "breath" and you change the "SHOCKWAVE" to "Breath"
it will work as you want
might as well just call all of them Frontal tbh
or simply add a new line
yes i know, i got that far lol
i just added it into the aura.env.captions in the top
im sorry bro, im not even sure what we're trying todo. I'm just trying to help xD
but currently just trying to figure what the spells called "SHCOKWAVE" have in common
so, go for shield then? 😉
nah np bro, we got to the same conclusion at the same time haha
you can reference the spells that are tagged as shockwave
what kind of embelishment?
and you will see what it considers shockwave
armor spikes, flavor pocket, or anything rly
you can even make shield without embelishment
aye thought that,t hanks!
what kind of "account" do i need to make comments on WA though 🤔
for example, Arcane Ravager: Riftbreath, is tagged as shockwave
get food embellishment on shield so you can get the frostfire belt and lariat
kinda wanna ask in the comments 😄
but i dont even know what that is
or weapon
also good point, thansk!
Riftbreath and Lightning breath (Halls) just has nothing in common
is why im confused
Riftbreath is the worm in front of Vexamus, that dashes to a target, and does frontal back on tank
and you sidestep it
but that doesn't return a true value, so its not tagged as shockwave?
Lightning BReath from Halls, is the one that is targeted, and follows you if you move
the "true" just means if it ignores what target the mob has i think
We're a bit above my paygrade but the true values relates to the options menu and weather or not that should override it.
Its referenced in the start of that code, to return an options value
and all of the spells are not in options
so it makes sense
But yeh, i'm def out of my depth here. hopefully someone who knows that they're doing can assist you bro
I would say though, with how extremely well made that WA is. There is some obvious logic we are both missing hahah
pretty much any WA i actually need, i make myself and rarely ever have to dabble in custom strings
did you make your own Thundering WA? 🤔
any advice on trying to get the threat onthe lashers on tree boss quickly when they spawn, been having issues with like thunderclap, and only 1 aoe taunt not being enough, and revenge doesnt hit them all
so i dont have the experience to understand much of that, i have basic coding knowledge from older style games and stuff, but rudimentery at best lol
AOE taunt, Ravager, Thunderous Roar
same, i know scripting and basic coding from work related stuff but its "make edits" level and not "make stuff" level 😄
Yea asked this the other day. Apparently you have to Ignore Pain earlier as it counts towards threat.
oh interesting, thank you on both, yeah ill try and space those cds out better too
From a 17 Shadowmoon. I'm thinking based.
i went from a 17 COS to a 19 Shadowmoon 😄
Soon thats going to be a 21 AV, then you're screwed
just make sure you dont pop everything at one wave, so you starve yourself for the next one
Challenging shout first one, ravager next, run around spamming revenge in next
@tender cove from the author in the comments (responding earlier to someone else)
so maybe the idea is shockwaves are static, and frontals are following
How big is the Block stat? I.e. impact of a shield on tankiness?
I'm 3k5 haste, 2k7 crit and 2k7 vers
wdym?
awesome and isnt that what you wanted to have announced anyhow? 😄
its bigger than anything else, and more important
yes, i just didnt know this was what it meant 😄
maybe ill try to keep an eye on the naming of them
At least we can title ourself juniors devs now haha
would it be better to run ruby considering mostly in m+?
i would hope to not title as that 😄
Anyone have spell reflect wa that works on mythic and raid
as i worked as software dev for 3 yrs
anyone else notice eranog shield is like offcenter on back
You dived into that code like it was nothing bro. You're a junior dev now xD
Change "Shockwave" to "Move out-bad-thingy" and submit a code change 😄
Thank god they fixed those beams for last boss in CoS
Now I can actually see them
or no, shockwave should be frontal, and frontal should be breath is what i mean lol
cant you do that in the options?
Just change the shockwave one to Breath?
yes
i could
maybe ill try that
and see if it helps me out
but theres also the option of "SLAM ON ME"
which i would also assume is snapped onto me, but is round instead of a cone
whats the meta lust timing for algethar tree now
i just noticed this says parry, dodge but NOT BLOCK. so not good for protwar?
You’re absolutely parrying more than once every 30s
Anyone feel like prot has 10 million abilities?
Maybe I just need to play it more lol
i see thx
We have quite the array of cooldowns
But yea just gotta play more
I feel like I need to take everything off my bars and do a tanking ui profile
This is one of our best trinkets for M+
having an organized UI can help a lot for sure. bc prot has only like 5-6 skills that you use very often but a ton of buttons for cooldowns/situational stuff.
Yeah I need to rearrange what I’m having on a modifier. Might be time to try an mmo mouse too
Is there a way to hit more conductive strikes on last boss ? I feel like it only adds up with every other one
Is there a weakaura for Shield wall charges, since Atrocity ui for tanks is kinda shit
whatever works. i’d say as long as your keybinds are like reachable on your keyboard just bind stuff in a way that makes sense for you. (for example: having similar bind for defensives or a key you always use for interrupts/mobility)
I use 1-6 vxz and two mouse buttons and then shift alt and ctrl if needed
check out dorki’s ui he has really nice shield block and ignore pain weakaurus linked on his youtube
3-5% overall dam every key, that's just dmg procs..the haste proc is nuts.
Yeah I can’t move some abilities because I’ve had them there since vanilla. Like 4 is charge because charge was the 3rd ability you learned xD
is there an actual strategy for temple 2nd boss? people timed +24 but it seems to just do an insane amount of dmg on lower keys too
Looked at his weakauras and cant seem to find it
imo the best keys to bind stuff with are gonna be (1-5, Q, E, R, T, F, Z, X, C, V)
ill find it for ya 1 sec
Healer keeps superiority the whole time, gets giga heals
Yeah I meant 1-5.
Yeah, give superiority to healer
Yea thats what i used, but apparently i cant find his shield wall wa :/
i see, thanks thanks
You precast it on first, after spear he will cast another regardless of range, should be up for most at least
should be called "Dorki Warrior Resources" or something
has a rage bar, sb, and ip tracker
here it is https://wago.io/gk069kAOm
what do people pop for Savage Peck on Crawth Academy? 🤔
it happens very frequently, and is chunking my HP on Tyr +17-19
Get the buff on your healer and the boss is a joke
i pop Reflect for every Screech i guess
He casts a lot it seems so you can bank a pretty decent IP
Nothing really, so just gotta pool IP
I dont use anything on screech
nah might as well use SR since Screech is magic
and the bleed is physical
and its rdy for every screech
like i still pop SR on every Trinket in last boss COS, even though its a joke
but theres nothing else to SR on that fight anyway
but should i sit in Dstance for the bleed?
it fucking trucks me on a +17
If you are inside cooldowns no
i just try to have a big ignore pain for savage peck and use victory rush once the chunk comes in to make it easier on heals
If you need it outside of CDs sure
Yea victory rush is prettt good for the bleed
What ilvl are you?
405
the dmg in Academy and AV just feels so much higher than other dungeons
the frontal on Azureblade also takes like >50% of my hp
even through SR
spell block
is it rdy for every cast? 🤔
vault actually feels super fine imo save for azureblade frontal
Pretty sure its every 2 iirc
I dont use anything if I have avatar and demo
honestly the biggest difference maker is gonna be how big your IP is
dont sleep on a big ignore pain pool the mitigation is a big deal
Yea you can bank some rage for it
still hits like a truck through IP though
yeah but like 50% of a truck if its big enough 🙂
If you have 60k+ in IP you shouldn’t die
ye this just sounds like healer prob at this point
not a lot of counterplay there lol
ye as i said, bad example since he got 1shot just before this lol
meanwhile in COS 1st boss everything is dodgeable, and i take literally 0 dmg
but yeah the savage peck on high keys is gnarly asf just need big ip and defensive cds
and if healer dies to frontal 🤷♂️
do people sit Dstance on that boss on high keys?
since i feel 10sec duration of a lot of dmg
ill swap every so often
prob swap for screech/ so SR/D stance for screech. Healer really dont have a lot to do outside screech and peck
i go into everything in battle stance but depending on how hard its hitting/how much healing you are getting you can swap to dstance
no shame in it brother that bird is cringe
tank/healer check
Any calculation on how much ilvl 4set is worth?


how should i prepare for a +18 tjs