Cause I used demo shout + LS + healthpot + trinket and died through all that
#protection
grim nymph
strong forum
Sw - healer CD - SW - whatever you have left
shut summit
io with saving avatar for peck was huge for me on 22 we did
pearl bay
Can you leap away during the cast of 2nd boss RLP?
strong forum
Doesn't do anything
grim nymph
Nah, 300yd range
pearl bay
Okay ty
strong forum
Yeah IO is starting to become the play in AA
And high tyr rlp
Probably temple too
round cliff
IO?
strong forum
It's not much worse offensively than unstoppable force
tender cove
Yeah IO is starting to become the play in AA
How do you play around avatar in that case?
round cliff
fr??
strong forum
You just spend a little more rage on revenge
But the dmg difference isnt very large between the 2 talents
strong forum
How do you play around avatar in that case?
Send as normal until you need specific timings of SW for mechanics
tender cove
what key lvl does IO start becoming necessary
prob will vary from person to person, so when you need it.
warm plinth
He's talking about a very specific use-case, to be clear here
Not an in general you should use this talent
round cliff
ic
strong forum
Cuz nobody in the game, besides sense, has played IO
inland raft
Its “i with my gear/group comp ran out of things to press in my specific situation”
amber pelican
Hey, thinking about tanking for the first time ever and was wondering if there was any add ons or WA that tell me what I need for percent in m+? 🙂 thanks for the help!
tender cove
Hey, thinking about tanking for the first time ever and was wondering if there w...
Can set your own percents for each area/phase of any dungeon to your own liking.
Has anyone experinced the bug where you character starts to spin 360 real crazy?
and it wont stop until you /reload
You can control the spinning by forcing the camera with the mouse but it makes moving incredible hard and /reloading takes a good 15-30 seconds while in combat where you literally are spinning around like crazy eating hits
I get it at least once per day, often more and its driving me insane at this point
and there's no apparent trigger, it just starts
shut summit
no
haughty sleet
Crawth 20 touched me
tender cove
Crawth 20 touched me
your heart or inappropriate?
haughty sleet
Def inappropriately
tender cove
i sorta guessed haha 😭
haughty sleet
sick sentinel
am i suppose to do something about the peck on bird boss academy? im being told it cant be dodged blocked parried
like IP and other flat DR i guess?
reef sable
So do the fire rings from the raid proc off the crafted belt with frostfire damage?
sullen flame
I run double wall for that dungeon. Rotate CDs/Rush for it and you will be fine.
uneven mason
am i suppose to do something about the peck on bird boss academy? im being told ...
press buttons
odd nimbus
guys good tgrinkets for m+?
wanton shale
for bird boss in AA, do the balls all have to be thrown in within XX secs?
we had 3rd guy hold his ball to wait for right stacks and it seemed to bug cuz first 2 guys threw it in early
sick sentinel
well, if i get hit with fire, and then a peck its, GG for me
so, fire, i can learn to move out of
earnest rampart
Anyone in here AOTC?
I have AOTC 😄
astral bane
I have AOTC 😄
as prot?
earnest rampart
Yessir
sick sentinel
fire hits for 250k, peck hits for 150k, i have 400k hp almost i think
so thats 1 2 im dead
astral bane
I have AOTC 😄
so my question is, when tanking rasz, as off tank, mechanics line up where after the 2nd interrupt orb comes out, rasz does a melee+jaws immediately after. I have spell reflect up and shield wall, 9/10 times i get destroyed. wtf am i doing wrong?
additionally during that time, healers are scrambling to heal everyone and trying to get rid of their 2nd interrupt orb
foggy ruin
so my question is, when tanking rasz, as off tank, mechanics line up where after...
spell block it if ur struggling
sick sentinel
press buttons
so like press defensive buttons to reduce damage or i just keep pressing offensive buttons and let healer deal with it, i focus on not standing i fires
astral bane
does spell block work for orbs and jaws?
foggy ruin
part of it
earnest rampart
so my question is, when tanking rasz, as off tank, mechanics line up where after...
This during P1?
astral bane
yes P1
heroic
theres only so many button presses i can do, while trying to int 2nd orb, and brace myself for her
and all the damage from the other orbs
sick sentinel
what are the +1s here
astral bane
those are from a addon suggesting builds, ignore it
sick sentinel
ive never seen this talent tree calculator style
pawn is for talents now too? oh god
earnest rampart
yes P1
Hmmm I don't remember having mitigation issues during the orbs. I try and pre pop last stand with spell reflect . Having full ignore pain when it starts is good.
earnest rampart
theres only so many button presses i can do, while trying to int 2nd orb, and br...
Personally, I run 2x shield wall for the last phase breaths. Thats if you want to play it safe. Dont be afraid to just pop a SW there because add phase does so little dmg you will have it up by the time you will need it again
astral bane
k
any glaring issues with my talents?
i swapped to defender's aegis for the 2x SW
got rid of storm bolt for pain and gain
earnest rampart
k
Disrupting show wasnt super vital for me I found. I tried it for the casters in add phase but wasnt too impactful. You can also lose show of force if you want to be a bit more tanky and go for Battle Scarred Veteran. Again, I just drop dps talents for tankiness and work my way up to more dmg talents.
Definitely just a feel thing depending on the run.
ruby ridge
Finding crafter for recrafting my shield to 418 is like impossible task
Are there any good places where I can look for a crafter?
warm plinth
Not really. Trade chat is your best bet since crafting orders can only be fulfilled on same server
astral bane
@earnest rampart hows that?
earnest rampart
<@104773359732051968> hows that?
Lookin damn tanky! 👍
astral bane
actually dropped bloodborne for bolster
tender cove
People who just go afk in runs are the worst type of people... Doing azure on alt, going bit rocky cuz the healer is bad and the rogue dies twice. We kill 3rd boss 4man, np. Get to last boss and wipes at 5% with 1 min left...just heartbreaking.
sick sentinel
in what dungeons do you guys not use storm bolt
tulip kelp
fire hits for 250k, peck hits for 150k, i have 400k hp almost i think
Literally don’t step in the fire then.. if you’re stepping in the fire that’s the first thing you should stop doing before looking at which buttons to press
earnest rampart
<@104773359732051968> hows that?
My parse was pretty low, but definitely feel it out. I was more comfortable for our first clear if I didnt take much dmg and healers didnt have to worry about me
astral bane
mind showing me your build for it?
warm plinth
in what dungeons do you guys not use storm bolt
I always use storm bolt personally
spice radish
@sick sentinel if you have a rogue, you never do stormbolt
warm plinth
Why
astral bane
probably dont need storm bolt for H Rasz
sick sentinel
I always use storm bolt personally
im looking at sigglez build above, and it looks like he doesn't take it but everything else on his talents seems standard
astral bane
idk what i would use it for
sick sentinel
mm nvm
warm plinth
He's talking about heroic Rasz
astral bane
^
sick sentinel
ahh well, yeah, thatrs a total different ball game lol
warm plinth
<@456226577798135808> if you have a rogue, you never do stormbolt
this is a weird take tbh
what's the logic of that
astral bane
i guess you can use storm bolt for the interrupt orb, but i have shield charge or shockwave for that
spice radish
nah, stormbolt is kinda trash tbh
warm plinth
That's an even weirder take
spice radish
kidney is always better and can always plan on shield charge + aoe stuns
warm plinth
You do know there are multiple targets in a trash pack right
And Kidney Shot has a cooldown
spice radish
havent been in any case that i needed stormbolt
lusty grotto
ghash did you see the convo earlier
i also use stormbolt
my team has no rogues so
earnest rampart
mind showing me your build for it?
earnest rampart
probably dont need storm bolt for H Rasz
na shockwave + cs is plenty in my experience
warm plinth
ghash did you see the convo earlier
yes
astral bane
ill give it a shot
tender cove
What is the community obsession freaking out over pwarr being good for once? Why does everyone still think we're some immortal god making all other tanks obsolete and unplayable? I see literally every tank except monk doing 24s
fathom robin
which weapon enhancment is best? the stones? and if so which ones?
sick sentinel
I always use storm bolt personally
same, there are period where i get sick of it due to low dmg and stun DR
so, like, a ton of SL i didnt use any storm bolt
cuz, already, hed cowstomp and shockwave, so if any other dps or healer used a stun on trash, to prevent "xyz missle" my bolt was effectively useless and hit for 500 dmg and nothing else
spice radish
@tender cove dk/warrior can both face tank for a very long time. but the damage output of the pwarr is just soo far ahead than other tanks, that makes it the best tank by far
sick sentinel
im already opting out of inting shout
warm plinth
why
tender cove
<@320957287818854401> dk/warrior can both face tank for a very long time. but th...
Is it really by far? Wasn't there a discussion about pala having edge on st over warr?
sick sentinel
i think that is a total fail running int shout
it literal starts with int, what els i need to say
im not a mage, don't need int
spice radish
avg at about 70k dps per dungeon is kinda far than others who top at 50k ish
sick sentinel
that god damn intimidating shout button has been the bane of my existance
too many times i hit it thinking it would work out perfect and they don't go aggro other shit
too many times i have been betrayed by this button
no more, never again
spice radish
@sick sentinel free talent, very hard to dr, and a good range, would never try to go w/o it
sick sentinel
i can live with out if happily
warm plinth
so you don't take intimidating shout, you don't take storm bolt, then what are you taking instead?
tender cove
i can live with out if happily
I have not talented it once this expo.
I see the value. I just dont have another keybind so im like, fuckit
sick sentinel
I have not talented it once this expo.
hitting that button has instantly resulted in loud...... NOOOOOOOO fuuuucckkk
and broken heart for lack of a better term, whatever the feeling is when you've been betayaled
tender cove
I do have found myself in a new guild, playing with regular people again. And one is a rogue, so i might just give up stormbolt for it after reading the comments today tbh.
sick sentinel
i would like to drop bolt for bounding personally
i ran alot of bounding stride in BFA i tihnk, and for sure in SL, the 3seconds of movementspeed is invaluable situationally
never bitter immunity though, i think bitter immunity is for those 200% versa nerds
tender cove
i ran alot of bounding stride in BFA i tihnk, and for sure in SL, the 3seconds o...
I've played a bit with it this reset but I honestly dont think its that big. Can def live without it.
inland mesa
How is your int shout not breaking instantly when you hit it? It's just an aoe interupt and if your dps are hitting things they don't run anywhere
earnest rampart
i would like to drop bolt for bounding personally
W/e you gotta do to get bounding. I love that talent
sick sentinel
bounding is probably going to be nessecary vs final boss vaults
earnest rampart
Not vital or anything like that. It just feels really good to have for mechanics
sick sentinel
30 seconds leaper with 3s move buff vs 45 seconds virgin hop,
earnest rampart
I use it a lot for positioning.
sick sentinel
once you try bounding, never want to untalent it, i garuntee you
earnest rampart
same
oblique garnet
hitting that button has instantly resulted in loud...... NOOOOOOOO fuuuucckkk
That happens because you are not following the intimidating shout with your own thunderclap
sick sentinel
regardless, that is a button brings a pain that even i cannot ignoire
too much of a gamble imo
oblique garnet
No its just you making excuses for your own mistakes and im tired of pretending thats not the case
lusty grotto
late stop youre arousing me
spice radish
depends on the content, unless you are doing some gigachad content, talents dont matter at all, just go with w/e makes you feel better
sick sentinel
well, im going to stand firm on that its too much of a gamble last resort button
inland mesa
It's 0 gamble
spice radish
you can target the mob you wanna fear/cc
sick sentinel
too much risk, not enough reward
tender cove
too much risk, not enough reward
what is the risk?
inland mesa
You hit it, it interrupts everything you thunder clap, they don't move
sick sentinel
risk is they can be sent full blast in any 360 diirection for full duration and aggro another pack of mobs we dn't have cooldowns for
inland mesa
They don't though
tender cove
if you view it like this yogi, it essentially functions the same as disruption shout but you dont have to really give up anything for it, it just free real estate.
inland mesa
The fear breaks on damage
earnest rampart
risk is they can be sent full blast in any 360 diirection for full duration and ...
In my experience, I have been able to break the fear instantly 😄
oblique garnet
Literally only issue with int shout is that its capped so on high mob count it might not hit more than 1 priority target that you wanted to disrupt
Thats literally the only case
inland mesa
So you need to be fearing and you and your group stand there gawking at the fear circles over their head as they run away
oblique garnet
If you are somehow ninjapulling with it you are either full afk team or playing right next to a pack that would pull anyways
sick sentinel
base fear like the warlock basic fear is too much RNG
we all know fear and not the cower fear is always been a sussy form of CC at best,
inland mesa
It's really not
You're using it incorrectly
You cast it to aoe interrupt and it should break within a second
spice radish
ive done about 250 keys so far this season, never had such an issue
earnest rampart
base fear like the warlock basic fear is too much RNG
What part is the RNG, just curious. I think there is a statistically high chance that the fear breaks with dmg in the first global
inland mesa
If it lasts so long a mob runs into another group then you're doing something wrong
sick sentinel
What part is the RNG, just curious. I think there is a statistically high chance...
far as i know, when basic fear is applied to something, it chooses a path in any of 360 degrees and then either sends you in a straight line, or RNG path, and the direction you are facing is not always garunteed
oblique garnet
Only case which comes to mind where fiasco could happen is if one of the marksmen in hov disengages just before int shout goes off and is out of range of your abilities
But even that can be fixed with YOUR positioning
urban portal
Are we really trying to say that fears are inconsistent
It doesn’t really matter
It breaks in half a second
earnest rampart
far as i know, when basic fear is applied to something, it chooses a path in any...
They 99.99% time dont run at all in my experience
inland mesa
Apparently not if you're yogi
Then they are Olympic sprinters that ignore damage and be line for a new mob pack
sick sentinel
well, at any rate, its a button that im positive has caused me undue pain and suffering
oblique garnet
You can even use the fucking abiliry as a targeted spell since its your target + x
inland mesa
If you hit fear and they don't flinch and stop, you are playing incorrectly
spice radish
practice it
inland mesa
You can't blame the button though if you aren't using it correctly
oblique garnet
well, at any rate, its a button that im positive has caused me undue pain and su...
And we have given you all the tools to improve so that wouldnt happen but you just refuse to listen and put our advice to practice
earnest rampart
well, at any rate, its a button that im positive has caused me undue pain and su...
Fair enough, if that is your experience. Who am I to tell you different <#
inland mesa
I can go punch a wall, but then I can't be mad at the wall for being in the way of my fist
warm plinth
I fuckin hate when walls do that
tender cove
Why are we ganging up on lil yogi. He's like the little brother you love to hate. obvs he's gonna be stubborn even though its a weird hill to die on.
tender cove
depends on the content, unless you are doing some gigachad content, talents dont...
this is the right take tbh. Talents dont REALLY matter matter.
sick sentinel
i feel so much safer, knowing that i can't hit that button and it leads to wipe through ninja pulling though
tender cove
i feel so much safer, knowing that i can't hit that button and it leads to wipe ...
then thats what you play bro but just acknowledge its more a you issue than a talent issue and its all good.
sick sentinel
path of least resistance right?, and process of elimination
tender cove
path of least resistance right?, and process of elimination
ofc and unless you're unable to complete the content, just play whatever and focus on having fun and if you reach a platue, you adapt and change it up.
mighty valley
if you're not good at using an ability and not doing anything hard enough to where you should learn to use it, and you're just gonna use it badly
sure, save the point, i guess
tender cove
if you're not good at using an ability and not doing anything hard enough to whe...
exactly what i tried to say 😛
just dont hate the talent
wasnt that what bruce lee said? I dont fear the man who know's 10 000 different kicks, I fear the man who's practiced one kick 10 000 times.
steady steppe
Yogi always got some interesting takes that's for sure
eager lodge
is the seal of filial duty any good for us?
warm plinth
🤷
steady steppe
Yes if u have the crafted belt
mighty valley
it's a bonus defensive effect, not insane but if you can make it work with the crafted belt it's nice
leaden shuttle
how come im not being invited to any 2x4 farms? (never done any in my life so idk what to expect. just want some gold)
mighty valley
i do not know what that is
steady steppe
Are they full
leaden shuttle
i do not know what that is
premade groups -> custom
sick sentinel
probably going to attempt 12 ruby life pools tomorrow my key, see how it goes, but should be easy
leaden shuttle
Are they full
no im trying to join ones without any tanks and i get no invs
sick sentinel
only real conern is lightning channelers and red dragon location
mighty valley
i don't know the 2x4 part
buoyant narwhal
2x4 is when people farm content in 2 groups of 4 to avoid not getting mob tags
sick sentinel
maybe it changes at 10-15 keys, but i've not really found alot of pain on boss 1 ruby
buoyant narwhal
ssithux u might be too low ilvl, or trying to join a group already at 4 members?
sick sentinel
seems like a very standard boss, does a suck, does adds, does shit on ground dont stand in itt
spice radish
should try it on 25 tyra
mighty valley
all of RLP gets much harder as the key level goes up
woven steppe
Is there a spreadsheet or guide post showing all the m+ and raid spells of dragon flight that I can spell reflect?
mighty valley
yes, in the pinned posts
buoyant narwhal
first comment in pins
tender cove
seems like a very standard boss, does a suck, does adds, does shit on ground don...
remember to spell reflect frigid shard.
woven steppe
This one?
mighty valley
yes
woven steppe
Thanksss ❤️
tender cove
all of RLP gets much harder as the key level goes up
I'm doing my first 18 tomorrow, honestly not excited for it at all but at least its not grawth i guess xD
buoyant narwhal
lol
mighty valley
if you end up with a prevoker, remind them they have a bleed cleanse lol
spice radish
@tender cove rlp?
tender cove
if you end up with a prevoker, remind them they have a bleed cleanse lol
I playing with a resto drood now. Pretty much entire season will be with him unless he switches which i doubt.
tender cove
<@320957287818854401> rlp?
ruby life pools
spice radish
an impostor
sick sentinel
its more the second boss im worried about
incase ranged player sticks the add in some shit location inside the fire already established im about to run out of
tender cove
incase ranged player sticks the add in some shit location inside the fire alread...
my solution to this in pugs? Just drag boss excessive long to the left. Make it so they cant place it retarded xD
sick sentinel
but, thats a personal issue for ranged players
steady steppe
my solution to this in pugs? Just drag boss excessive long to the left. Make it ...
U mean against the wall?
mighty valley
you can use basically the entire ring, just move more than strictly necessary
so positioning fuckups don't ruin everything
tender cove
U mean against the wall?
Just keep kiting to the left. So far that ranged have to move and then they cant place it stupid and box you or the party in
steady steppe
Oh lmao
sick sentinel
i think part of the no fear thing too also is because in 2004/5/6 wow vanilla oldschool, i was a paladin and got fear undead but very rarely got to use it, and the times i was, it would go get its buddies and wipe us, same for warlock and priest fears and we were brought up to believe in not relying on fear for CC
group would say to me/them "don't fear", many times
buoyant narwhal
the aoe fear is awesome, different game entirely now lol
mighty valley
people weren't just cleaving every split second back then
tender cove
i tried to give you an out bro and you go right back to it. You're on your own now xD
steady steppe
LMAO
short elk
i think part of the no fear thing too also is because in 2004/5/6 wow vanilla ol...
This is def a thing - I have to remind myself to use my fear all the time
Even when I use it I get nervous lmao
lusty grotto
so crawth isnt taking wind 3rd ball after doing fire
i dunno if that's an issue for the rest of you guys
solemn current
Happened to me a few times last week
sick sentinel
so crawth isnt taking wind 3rd ball after doing fire
did u wipe ?
toxic pewter
yep happened to me also
spice gull
Hey, just a question thats probably been asked a hundred times, is there any easier way to pick up the caster adds in second floor in rlp? im thinking maybe disruptive shout but idk if any of the talents can be dropped for it
sick sentinel
after u wipe air phase doesnt work
eternal marsh
lusty grotto
hmm welp
sick sentinel
Hey, just a question thats probably been asked a hundred times, is there any eas...
some pulls of that ring the caster to interup is far end of group if you intend to charge pummel to get it to follow
spice gull
ah i see
sick sentinel
and it can be hit with stuns, wouldnt know about fear offhand
oblique drift
Any trick to getting around searing blows on Kokia Blazehoof?
Or dealing with it in general
tender quartz
There ain't no WA to show 2P/4P for my applicants in LFG right...
@oblique drift Save Rage, rotate CD's, it's a partnership with your heal. Ideally kill Add later so you don't get the weird Overlap. Iirc. Its what works best for me ( 17-18 range tho only )
oblique drift
I think the healer in my pug group was just not good perhaps
Looking at the logs they didn't really heal me much at all when I was getting hit with it
I was surprised because it kept killing me
oblique drift
I BARELY lived in defensive stance + shield wall, and without shield wall she just killed me every time she used it
tawny cypress
Is there any site that can calc rating you get for a certain key level + time?
If I know I'm going to deplete an 18, how do I know if it's more rating to leave and complete the 17?
e.g. 1s over and deplete an 18 vs 1s under and complete a 17? Whats the score diff?
woven trellis
i keep having people dying last boss RLP on the dragon, when he climbs on it, reset aggro, i mass taunt, my plater stays green
but my arcane mage dies when bursting 2 or 3 sec after my aoe taunt
and says he got meleed
oblique drift
the aggro feels buggy after he gets on
I have had similar things happen once or twice
round cliff
in 1 or 2 targets shouldnt shield slam outprioritize thunderclap even w/ unstoppable force
urban portal
sounds right to me
mighty valley
takes more targets than that to outpace the 3x rage gen
south zealot
indomitable if you’re a gamer
round cliff
instigate is strats??
modern brook
Sof is the right answer tbh
modern brook
Imstigate should probably just be surge on dathea
pallid quiver
Unless you want to be squishy, then Indom
tender cove
Show of force, battering ram or insitgate are your options. Pick one.
id drop sof or insta
mighty valley
if you drop show of force you can't get the two below it
uneven mason
How do I make use of this?
mighty valley
you can't just IGNORE the REALITY
uneven mason
allrighty
tulip kelp
I gotta craft a belt next week, should prob just go frostfire and remove fang from wep huh
stable valve
if you drop show of force you can't get the two below it
Disrupting shout connects to them too
tulip kelp
Even if I don't have ring now, just to give myself the option down the road
sand pebble
I gotta craft a belt next week, should prob just go frostfire and remove fang fr...
Thats what i did, ffb does same dam as fang then i put alchemical flavour packet on weap
steady steppe
U can only have 2 embellished items?
sand pebble
U can only have 2 embellished items?
Yes plus alchemical one as it doesnt count towards cap
dry tide
Does spell block negate lasher toxin on tree boss in academy?
atomic inlet
hey guys is cirtical strike better than haste/vers for mythic+? i saw some users like shushwar prio the cirit
sand pebble
hey guys is cirtical strike better than haste/vers for mythic+? i saw some users...
Whatever you have that gives a greater total of stats
lofty widget
Does spell block negate lasher toxin on tree boss in academy?
no
dry tide
@lofty widget Thank you
sand pebble
Crit big number, haste fast number, vers is just nice
urban portal
crit is more big numbers
hazy sluice
Thats what i did, ffb does same dam as fang then i put alchemical flavour packet...
What's that alch thingy ? Need to be alch for that ?
urban portal
not biggest numbers
sand pebble
What's that alch thingy ? Need to be alch for that ?
No. Alchemical flavour packet - increases well fed by 100% and makes it last through death.
tender quartz
^ biggest QoL ever
sand pebble
Yep
tender quartz
loving it so much and it doesnt count as emebellishment iirc
atomic inlet
Whatever you have that gives a greater total of stats
im stuck at 2 good weaopn
primal molten haste/vers
strike twice
tender quartz
everytime i tried the strike twice thingie it did like 1% of my overall
decided to throw it away and go 418 neck weapon shield
sand pebble
Highest ilvl, strike twice = free fang embelishment
atomic inlet
man im confuesed and dont know what to build with 2 infusion i have
sure i shoud get upgrade for my lower ilvl but i can alway spam run some dungen for those
fallen pulsar
Could say that about most things tbh, I’d say shield and weapon are most important, belt with ring also good
lofty widget
belt/shield/weapon 2 of those 3 imo
tender quartz
Shield is cheap to Valor Upgrade tho
atomic inlet
And get the free fire dam
idk the damage isnt enough for me
tender quartz
If you wanna craft something else
zealous grove
Well if damage isn’t enough for you idk what advice your gonna get that is 😂
sand pebble
Belt all the way if ring
fallen pulsar
We’re getting another spark in like a few days, tbh theres not too many amazing options
zealous grove
Get the shield then I guess 🤷
atomic inlet
i mean only 5k evry 2 sec and only proc 2 times in 2 minute
is that good? i think no
zealous grove
It’s basically ring > belt if ring > wep\shield > the other.
sand pebble
Its a perma dot
zealous grove
It’s free damage
tender quartz
Craft Weapon, upgrade to 418 later. Shield you can Valor Upgrade with 250 each, Weapon is 500.
lofty widget
i mean only 5k evry 2 sec and only proc 2 times in 2 minute
cause you dont have any fire dmg sources atm?
sand pebble
Belt is 2ppm its amazing
deft hazel
that ritual of bones purple trail is very misleading where it ends.. stepped into it and it did 1.4million in the duration i had it lol
fallen pulsar
I still charge em, but I go wide around the trail instead of going into what looks like the end
zealous grove
Idk how you can say it’s not good. If you’re gonna turn down gradual consistent improvements, you may as well not bother to gear, cause that’s what every new piece is. A small upgrade that collectively adds up to a lot.
sand pebble
It lands you whete the mob before you charged
sand pebble
Exactly
zealous grove
Eranog is better than brood.
deft hazel
Yeah I accidentally tipped a toe into it
the dot did to much you cant even do anything about it
sand pebble
Free perma fire dot on mob if you craft bekt
fallen pulsar
<:okayge:917646812519739433> the dot did to much you cant even do anything about...
I lucked out and only got it mear the end of the bone trail because were being slow, so the dot disappeared before it killed me
atomic inlet
Free perma fire dot on mob if you craft bekt
but losing haste vers belt hmmm...
sand pebble
Dont be scared by crit
fallen pulsar
I’ve had it not come down like 4 times already
lofty widget
what happened?
zealous grove
Any ilvl upgrade is basically better than bis stats
slim dove
goal literally not spawning
fallen pulsar
Crawth will sometimes not come down after the last add pack, thereby bricking the ley
zealous grove
And you’re talking about a 16ilvl bump
sand pebble
Any ilvl upgrade is basically better than bis stats
Bekt isnt about ilvl or stats, its used to proc fire ring
slim dove
Crawth will sometimes not come down after the last add pack, thereby bricking th...
yeah new bug, goals dont spawn
fallen pulsar
Oof
zealous grove
Bekt isnt about ilvl or stats, its used to proc fire ring
Yeah I know. But it also has the benefits of ilvl and the stats aren’t bad
zealous grove
I remember a discussion here the other day where people were saying haste crit > haste vers
sand pebble
Ilvl > whatever
fallen pulsar
Crit is more damage, vers is less damage but more survival
zealous grove
Crit is survival too tho.
sand pebble
Pwar doesnt need more survival though
fallen pulsar
I mean, less so than vers imo
cinder storm
I remember a discussion here the other day where people were saying haste crit >...
Crit is better offensively and defensively
fallen pulsar
Is it?
modern brook
Verse more specifically provides Dr to things that we generally do not have strong answers to
atomic inlet
Crit is more damage, vers is less damage but more survival
doesnt cirit help block
cinder storm
Not saying vers is bad but most people are doing content where they don't need to stack vers
sand pebble
Yeah, parry and leech from crits
urban portal
Crit is parry
modern brook
Crit just parties which owns
zealous grove
Crit gives parry. And you can parry stuff you can’t block
modern brook
Esp with the awkwardly high # of things u can just party and ignore in current pool
urban portal
I don’t think so
zealous grove
Ie crawths peck
lofty widget
nah
urban portal
I’m fairly sure block and parry are basically the same
lofty widget
cant parry that anymore
atomic inlet
i think cirit works good on dungens wich are mostly meles
sand pebble
Also tier/bv crits add bigger free ip
urban portal
Except parry blocks a debuff on you
zealous grove
cant parry that anymore
O. I thought you couldn’t block it anymore. Rip
lofty widget
you cant avoid getting the debuff anymore, so parry/dodge etc
modern brook
I’m fairly sure block and parry are basically the same
Parry and dodge are more closely relates
Block is just armor 2: the cooler one
scenic tusk
Is there any good YouTube guide for tanks for vault normal or heroic?
zealous grove
Is there any good YouTube guide for tanks for vault normal or heroic?
Taunt when DBM yells at you. Sleep.
???
Gear
atomic inlet
so im going with firebelt / sword
any other suggestion?
sand pebble
Anyway whatever stat itself doesnt matter, aim for most total stats, free dam from fire ring proced by belt that is higher ilvl is > losing haste/vers anyway you look at it
modern brook
Is there any good YouTube guide for tanks for vault normal or heroic?
Signs of kelani has an informative and concise guide to the raid but it doesn't focus on tanks specifically
scenic tusk
Ty all
dry tide
Anyone have any tips on surviving high key Academy tree boss
dry tide
Just rotating cooldowns like i normally would and i was doing a 19
zealous grove
Shammy can give you a poison cleanse totem or whatever they’re called these days. Idk what healers can or can’t dispel. Otherwise you just D stance, demo, SR, full stack IP before and have some rage to keep pumping it.
dry tide
Looks like most of it was melee damage from the lashers
zealous grove
Rotate stubs
lofty widget
should have sw for all the uproots
zealous grove
Stuns* would you fuck off phone I know what I’m typing
hazy sluice
Rotate cc
lofty widget
and can bring poison dispell to make it really easy, druid, paladin, evoker, monk
dry tide
ok maybe i just need to be better is all
zealous grove
Take the shield wall talent
zealous grove
Only time it goes really sideways for me is when boss is sub like 15% and there’s lashers from the inactive germ getting risen too
Although to be fair I’ve only timed an 18. Did a 21 tree though pre nerf. We just wiped at .1% 😂
wheat bronze
Yes
Originally it was bugged but there was a hotfix
Profession gear and Cobalt Assembly rings are now eligible for socket upgrades. This fix is retroactive and requires relogging.
dry tide
wish they would let us upgrade the assembly ring with valor
cinder storm
Idk, targetable bis items by doing world content doesn't sounds too bad for me
mighty crater
how do you stop the jade serpent temple 3rd boss jade strikes
384 ilvl and im getting basically 1shot on a 14
zealous grove
Defence stance, demo shout, spell reflect
mighty crater
spell reflect doesnt work on the jade one does it?
edgy grail
Run defenders aegis
zealous grove
20% damage reduction
edgy grail
It does for the initial hit
zealous grove
Then rotate your big cool-downs
lofty widget
IV after youre hit as well
mighty crater
ahhh
edgy grail
Spell block is good too
zealous grove
And tell your healer when you want your external so you don’t double up
edgy grail
As it covers 2 hits
mighty crater
yeah for sure - i forgot about the initial 20% on spell reflect
and i was using demo for dps instead of defensively
zealous grove
You’d be losing a whole set of cool-downs wouldn’t you?
mighty crater
defender aegis is a good point too
lofty widget
You’d be losing a whole set of cool-downs wouldn’t you?
or you just double pull before boss with cds and lust when theyre back up
zealous grove
True
Has anyone done the crawth strat where you wait to double up the buffs from goals
So you have 40% haste during the 75% dam window?
tender cove
I’m fairly sure block and parry are basically the same
in what sense? One blocks (reduced) a hit. The other avoided it completely?
zealous grove
Someone corrected that already 🤪
sand pebble
Has anyone done the crawth strat where you wait to double up the buffs from goal...
4 stacks, fire goals+lust 4 stacks, wimd goals is only strat ive done
urban portal
in what sense? One blocks (reduced) a hit. The other avoided it completely?
In terms of what’s blockable vs parryable is what I mean
Like everything parryable should also be blockable and vice versa
In 99% of the cases
That being said parry/dodge wouldn’t put any related debuff on you
fathom robin
Enjoying warrior, just got to 70 and ran a HoV 10 at ilvl 342. Was a nail biter and didn't time, but loving the warrior toolkit
sand pebble
342ilvl in a 10 hov, bring better dps and you will time imo
fathom robin
Yeah we had one dps that was about 25k
Looking at my sparks and thinking lariat first?
pallid quiver
every day, i run into another failed key at some point due to someone letting me just eat thundering in front of a boss, and then they go "omg tank y u die u so bad"
fathom robin
The is it shield or MH
pallid quiver
i hate this affix so much
sand pebble
Yes lariet amazing, shield biggest defensive upgrade though
urban portal
Thundering is bad yeah
Kind of stupid
Can just match it early and not use the buff at all lol
warm plinth
Looking at my sparks and thinking lariat first?
shield>weapon>whatever else
sand pebble
I run intervene specifically to clear thundering on bad dps
pallid quiver
It has no feel good and has very feel bad if your party decides to pop movement abilities to run from your ass because "oh i dont want to get frontalled"
pallid quiver
Can just match it early and not use the buff at all lol
i try, but the DPS and Heals fucking run for the hills in the keys I'm talking about
As in actually using movement abilities to avoid me
hazy sluice
I'm looking forward to Wednesday going from 398 to 418 shield
fathom robin
shield>weapon>whatever else
Good to know
pallid quiver
I run intervene specifically to clear thundering on bad dps
Does intervene guaranteed clear or can they leap/blink away from that spot to avoid touching you?
sand pebble
Its worked everytime ive used it
Whats that
Bait to side step behind add last second
pallid quiver
I simply have still yet to even attempt Dathea on Heroic
I don't think it's a worthwhile time investment for me to try and pug that
I just looked at the basic fight design and went
"fuck that"
Dathea, Brood, and Raz are my three on that list
pallid quiver
Brood should still not be hard to pug, probs, but I ain't riskin' it
Dathea and Raz deffo the big ones
inner rapids
Looking to make an alt tank (prot warr main) what do you guys suggest? Leaning towards prot pala but main gripe is mobility 😅
sand pebble
Looking to make an alt tank (prot warr main) what do you guys suggest? Leaning t...
Brew if you really enjoy a high skill cap
pallid quiver
Nerzhul is a champ
Kicks the ass of every last pug
deft hazel
idk if im doing something wrong with placement or what
pallid quiver
Skeleton wall too complex
deft hazel
didnt work
pallid quiver
If they're dying from the bone-zone dot and you're killing skelly
Simply find better players who don't run across the line early
sand pebble
^^ this
pallid quiver
or find warriors who don't have their charges put them on the wrong side of a stationary mob
deft hazel
pallid quiver
Personally, I try to slowly move from one edge of the platform to the other, giving ranged room to drop the sigils off where we were before, then we kill one of the edge skellies,
Rinse repeat
inner rapids
Brew if you really enjoy a high skill cap
Brew isnt a good fit
deft hazel
i was doing it my way by kiting boss around edge and they drop beam behind and we move ahead but i think it was complicating things. Because this way we almost always have skellys spawn near us and beams far away but didnt work
inner rapids
I enjoy having a shield
pallid quiver
because, hopefully, people will catch on and hit the right skelly
inner rapids
2nd prot warr 😂👌👌
deft hazel
Personally, I try to slowly move from one edge of the platform to the other, giv...
i was doing this sorta and didnt work
lol
pallid quiver
Like I was complaining about earlier with Thundering, some people will just actively do their fucking damnedest out of nowhere specifically to do mechanics incorrectly
sand pebble
Its funny when players scream sbg too easy then blizz fixes 1 bug then no one can complete it anymore because they cant avoid a mechanic
zealous grove
Giant purple death line is hard
deft hazel
Its funny when players scream sbg too easy then blizz fixes 1 bug then no one ca...
idk.. i never once did wall skip or seen anyone do it, so it didnt affect me
and i still think its easy i jsut dont get why people dead every pull to dot
lol
pallid quiver
The dot from ritual of bones wasn't scaling right iirc
deft hazel
even ranged dead
sand pebble
Yeah ive been killing skelly since wod never once cheesed it never had an issue so far
pallid quiver
so people could do shit wrong and take minimal damage for it
deft hazel
yeah i never cheesed it so didnt affect me
but its also on blizzard to fix it visually because the area it covers doesnt match what you see
sand pebble
Nerzul does like to troll with malovelence targeting after killing it though no floor space panic
deft hazel
Nerzul does like to troll with malovelence targeting after killing it though no ...
well what i mean is we kill skelly idont move people can move forward or backward but instead they jump left right up down to avoid it
they over complicate it
inland mesa
I dipped into the wall just to see on a 20, it's spooky
pallid quiver
Fight is dodge pizza slice, break wall
fight for my mage friend is drop rune of power, get a politely worded notice to fuck of from that spot from nerzhul, move, rinse-repeat
since he keeps ending up being the only ranged
sand pebble
Haha
viral elk
Pretty new. Done a few SMB. Do the purple rune pillars on Nerzhul do AoE damage? Does the group need to be far away from them?
sand pebble
Hold rune for after?
fallow harbor
The pillars do more damage the closer you are to them
inland mesa
Yeah aoe drop off from like 7 yards or something small
pallid quiver
if he's the only ranged, he gets one of the runes on him like every 5 seconds
it's hilarious tbh
simple dust
Gamers, could I please get some help on deciding what to take from vault? I got a 421 Nok ring which is a 6 ilvl upgrade over the one I already have, or a 421 Strike Twice which is a 3 ilvl upgrade over my crafted wep, but lose bis stats for worst, thoughts?
sand pebble
Gamers, could I please get some help on deciding what to take from vault? I got ...
Strike is a free fang embelishment
pallid quiver
Gamers, could I please get some help on deciding what to take from vault? I got ...
The weapon damage upgrade is worth more than any amount of "bis stats"
as a note for future reference
The extra strength is also the real bis stat, as well
rough egret
You can always sim aswell
sand pebble
True
pallid quiver
So even if secondaries change, more main stat is worth
rough egret
But there are few that would kill for that weap
pallid quiver
You should probably sim it, but it's most likely the wep
sand pebble
You also cant craft a 421 weap
rough egret
Just pick the weap
sand pebble
So unless mythic raid is nice to you, weapon imo
simple dust
Great responses gang, I did think the wep would probably be the better option, I just felt bad I spent like 80k on the wep haha
pallid quiver
listen, week 1 i crafted a shield
simple dust
Nah, I'm an M+ andy this tier, so it's the best I can get
pallid quiver
then the very next day i got an M+ Shield that was higher level
sand pebble
Well grats on bis weap
simple dust
🥴
pallid quiver
I opted to put a bit of valor into that shield
i got a higher ilvl shield from raid
game sucks
sand pebble
Haha always the way
dark plover
What do you guys pop on 2nd boss to survive the tank buster in Halls of Valor on high keys?
On 18+ I get hit for 500k, so need to pool IP, SR and make sure I use impending victory to get topper up before
But yeah Shield wall first and last stand second
wheat bronze
What do you guys pop on 2nd boss to survive the tank buster in Halls of Valor on...
Demo Shout + Spell Reflection + Ignore Pain is more than enough
Save Shield Wall if you don't have Demo or Ignore Pain
dark plover
Not for me but I have low versa I guess
lofty widget
SW every other, SR+D-stance the others
was enough for me on 20
can also call for externals
dark plover
Yeah I had to call for sac
wheat bronze
My biggest hit was 320k on the +20 I did earlier
tawny maple
What do you guys pop on 2nd boss to survive the tank buster in Halls of Valor on...
I just deathstrike
sweet summit
spell block is an option, however only useful for that one mechanic
undone verge
Heroic Broodkeeper slaps damn
also whats the swap on mythic eranog? I died like the first few pulls cause I got to like 9-13 stack ish lol We ended up doing like 7 stacks
jagged pier
U swap on adds
undone verge
yeah but if you swapped every time adds came out you'd hit like 20 stacks
jagged pier
No
undone verge
we did 7 stacks, and taunt when adds came out as long as it didnt reset stacks
jagged pier
The tanks get thats the add is the one tanking thats the taunt swap as they pick up the add
U dont ever go over 10
undone verge
I can confirm I hit 13 stacks earlier today after taunting at adds
jagged pier
Meh we always swap at adds never had an issue
Thats the intended way to do the fight
🤷
frozen comet
Does strike out weapon effect, the striking out, work with Devastator and Instigate?
urban portal
dont think so
edgy spear
Meh we always swap at adds never had an issue
Same. I start with boss, Bdk taunts when flamerift goes on me. I get aggro on the big add and when my stacks fall off i taunt back. Allows bdk stacks to fall off before next flamerift
undone verge
well yeah, thats basically how it goes taunting on 7, adds spawn, taunt swap, around when big add dies, other tank is at 7 stacks, swap then they get to 7 as next add comes out
zealous grove
what "basic" talent build are you guys running for ~+20s this week
wispy canopy
how are you dealing with RLP 2nd boss on tyranical fellow tanks, i can't take on a +16 she's detroying me even with cds.. am i dumb or what ?
delicate oak
whats the best stat for max damage? crit?
jagged pier
haste crit
delicate oak
thank you^^
jagged pier
how are you dealing with RLP 2nd boss on tyranical fellow tanks, i can't take on...
not much u can do but manage cds and pray your healers good
reef rock
I usually Shield wall one, Demo the next, call for external and then repeat
Spamming ignore pains the entire time
wispy canopy
ok thanks i'll pray for better healers next time
jagged pier
well u can also parry stacks of the debuff
polar cloak
what are people crafting with sparks other then necklace
pallid quiver
Weapon, shield, Frostfire belt if ring,
polar cloak
is there a difference between the sword and the axe ?
pallid quiver
Last I checked, you can pick stats on both and weapon specs haven't been a thing for a hot minute, so nope
polar cloak
i just see on wowhead it says sword and no mention of the axe so just wondering if there was a dmg differnce or speed thing
jagged pier
nope
pallid quiver
Weapon damage has been normalized for years now
polar cloak
not for the 2h weapons for sword axe mace
pallid quiver
All that matters is the secondaries in terms of differences
polar cloak
they different
pallid quiver
Those
Those are still the same
They'll do the same DPS, there's no difference
If they're same ilvl and same secondaries, they're the same thing
polar cloak
and we going with armor spikes for emblish
lusty grotto
not for the 2h weapons for sword axe mace
incorrect
polar cloak
what 2 emblish do we want
pallid quiver
It is, in fact, an option for a second embellish
pallid quiver
None are majorly impactful
Only one of note is if raid ring, belt is neat because it procs it
undone verge
Thats the intended way to do the fight
idk every single kill video ive watched has them swap at 7 and/or when the add comes out
like you definitely can go past 7 stacks, but thats overkill
lean zephyr
uh when we do it, the person who is planned to take the adds firsts will tank first till however many stacks the adds come out. don’t really think about the number of stacks since the boss does not hit hard even with a high number of stacks
undone verge
pretty much, like I said, its pretty easy to just taunt on add spawning, then taunt after it dies, then repeat
its like a 7/4 7/5 split then
sweet summit
🙅♂️
lyric geode
Guys
I have a 389 shield. But it seems blizzard decided to gift me with unluckyness
Shall I use valor to upgrade my shield?
lime urchin
Yes
lyric geode
Or wait for a 401 ilvl drop and spend less valor?
prisma crane
can you not craft one?
lyric geode
can you not craft one?
want to craft frostfire belt
prisma crane
do you have the fire damage ring?
prisma crane
then you should just craft a shield first
we get another spark in a few days anyways
the belt is only special, imo, when you have that ring, otherwise it's interchangeable with any other embellishment
prisma crane
well our shield is our single most important slot, but i suppose it's all up to you
prisma crane
can you give out handys down the corner in valdrakken for some cash?
lyric geode
can you give out handys down the corner in valdrakken for some cash?
Kewk
lime urchin
Sucky sucky 10 bukkie
orchid frigate
ok, tried rlp again and got wrecked to those searing blows. what shall i do when i run out of CDs? 😦
prisma crane
wait for DLC for extra CDs
lime urchin
You shouldn’t run out cds
prisma crane
but otherwise it's externals and rotating personal CDs better
blazing condor
I have a 389 shield. But it seems blizzard decided to gift me with unluckyness
shield is like 250 valor an upgrade
its worth it
lime urchin
And tell your healer to take 2nd searing blows with his cd on you
orchid frigate
doesnt help running into storming as you try to get out of the aoe explosion 😄
prisma crane
also @lyric geode its a decent amount of gold to do the random heroics when the purse for tanks is up, you get a couple k per run
worthy pollen
hi there, is there any build for lvling in dungeons?
prisma crane
just use the M+ one
leveling is so fast that it doesnt really matter to min max
just play what you want
worthy pollen
k
prisma crane
M+ one is in the pins
worthy pollen
i copied from subcreation
lime urchin
Because levelling is the same as pushing 23’s
sick sentinel
so do we know what exactly is shuwar doing
lime urchin
He presses many buttons
sick sentinel
no but like
how is he so ahead of everybody else in damage
78K +23 NO
98K +24 AA
sick sentinel
just sounds unreal
unreal lily
Damn he's a pumped
prisma crane
the higher the key the more the dmg
unreal lily
Pumper
sick sentinel
yea but by that much?
prisma crane
and its tyrannical, so its even more
lime urchin
Because he presses many more buttons than most of us dirty casuals
sick sentinel
hes consistently ahead of naowh by like 10k
prisma crane
the fucking last boss reflect is like 2M alone
steep wraith
Shuwar also gets windfury and monk every key
prisma crane
not an insignificant factor
solar blade
drop thunderlords for bleed dmg hm
jagged pier
meh not really
prisma crane
seems odd to do on a tyr week
jagged pier
like u play that on council
but in m+ thats garbage
u dont have enough block
your not taking punish which is huge for bosses
prisma crane
yea i mean i have a hard time believing he's doing that on most keys
sick sentinel
prisma crane
when you look them up that doesnt mean thats the spec they ran with
prisma crane
afaik that's not accurate, no?
prisma crane
or he does more than just M+
sick sentinel
its at least one of his frequent build
prisma crane
could be pvp for all i know
though BSV is strong in pvp
but heavy bleeds would make sense there
steep wraith
For cos, it's probably not that bad of a spec if you're maxing ST DPS
If that's where you found it against
prisma crane
but there's about a 0% chance he's not running punish on a Tyr wek
steep wraith
Don't really need block or punish in cos
prisma crane
that's terrible ST
sick sentinel
if the talent is accurate this guy tanked a 25 temple with this set up, which is impossible
theres no way lol
blazing condor
you can check the logs
sick sentinel
does he have logs?
steep wraith
He also streams constantly, there's a link in his raider io
lyric geode
shield is like 250 valor an upgrade
I dont want to spend 1750 valor for that
steep wraith
Go watch, it's clear what he plays where
blazing condor
he played spell block in that TJS at least
blazing condor
prisma crane
tank not dying more important than extra global of dmg
sick sentinel
that fight is a 100% tank healing fight, no one else takes any damage
enhance straight up outhealed a rdruid
insane
prisma crane
no
blazing condor
got lust on both drake and tempest
prisma crane
it outhealed regrowth
says only .5%
but that's gotta be overall right? im confused as to what that's showing
prisma crane
do enhance get free surge procs?
tulip kelp
It’s showing who healed jade serpent strike
prisma crane
so he just has them macro'd to shuh
prisma crane
where's the vod from that SS
sick sentinel
dude musve been pulling half the dungeon every pull
because his TC is like
3* everyone esles
prisma crane
its how you do those keys, big pulls into CDs
prisma crane
what date log are you looking at? can just find his vod
sick sentinel
on his 98k AA his damage looks like this
steep wraith
AA isn't really a fair comparison
prisma crane
he probably rotates his rev and TC to take advantage of SoF and obviously it's worth using your VO procs on TC as well
lofty widget
just using VO on TC instead of ss right
prisma crane
when that high of mobs you'd always use it on TC
sick sentinel
AA isn't really a fair comparison
comparing it with other's AA is
steep wraith
If his DPS are playing well, they won't be padding aoe on small mobs
prisma crane
also that
but mind you my key was only a 16 and i didnt try to min max and TC is pretty high
timid coyote
Hey, has anyone experienced a bug in Shadowmoon where the DoT from the wall applies even after the wall has disappeared?
sick sentinel
What does spellblock work on on these keys ?
blazing condor
Hey, has anyone experienced a bug in Shadowmoon where the DoT from the wall appl...
they hotfixed that i think
prisma crane
What does spellblock work on on these keys ?
check the spreadsheet in the pins
sick sentinel
check the spreadsheet in the pins
will do
the hotfix was that when the wall disappears, the damage dot also disappear. And that the damage wasnt scaling with key
people were cheesing it because of these 2 bugs
basically ignoring the wall at all
prisma crane
btw i just watched them do a the tree on a 24, he was second on dmg behind the monk, the rogue and enhance were def more focused on boss damage than anything else
its gonna make numbers go up
zealous grove
how hard is 20hov compares to 20tjs? We timed a 20TJS with 40 sec left... im doubtful about ability to time the hov?
zealous grove
is the play to lust the first pull up to boss
or cause its tyr you save lust for boss for the time save
sick sentinel
wolf is definitely more intensive than hyrja
hyrja is not that bad
im thinking to go wolf first for lust
prisma crane
we can cheese a core mechanic
sick sentinel
well yea
sick sentinel
the soak alone is still lethal tho
with hryja theres also a cheese but its risky af
orchid frigate
done about 40 m+ without shield dropping 😦
prisma crane
not saying that dog is easy, but its just heavy healer
orchid frigate
should i make a crafting order?
blazing condor
should i make a crafting order?
for what
prisma crane
the person doesnt have to move
zealous grove
o WHAT
zealous grove
holy shit
blazing condor
the shield 🙂
sure
prisma crane
so melee can stay in
forest fern
Yeah intervene is all attacks in the duration etc
orchid frigate
sure <:okayge:917646812519739433>
how much is a reasonable fee?
prisma crane
the harder part of the intervene strat is getting idiots to actually stay still when you do it
sick sentinel
you can pull position hyrja in a way that when shes stacking thunder buff, she casts the light dance spell, and when youre on the other side where shes stacking light buff, she casts the thunder aoe
blazing condor
depends on the level you wanna make but with your mats it shouldnt be too much. Idk depends on servers n stuff too
if you're doing public order you dont need much fee
orchid frigate
was thinking for a 405 shield
blazing condor
for personal order for a specific level the crafter chooses
shouldnt cost more than a few thousand at most
imo
but what do i know
orchid frigate
kk
sick sentinel
the way to do it is to start hryja on the middle to light side where shes stacking light buff, and quickly move her to thundering when shes about to cast the first spell, at the time of first cast if she has more stacks of light than thunder, she will casts the dance
and you just rotate normally from that point
people used to do this in legion
this guy fucked up the first time but fixed it on the 2nd cast
buoyant narwhal
We can Intervene people who get Fixated by the wolf in Hov and nothing happens as long as they dont move?
lofty widget
yes
lime urchin
Well as long as they stay close to you
buoyant narwhal
oh nice
quick harbor
best phial for m+ at the moment? is it glacia;?
mortal brook
Eye in the storm or glacial
lyric geode
I was deceived on how smooth we run the air elemental.
I should have talked to the pugs about the last boss on Nokhud
It really felt like nightmare
quick harbor
the way to do it is to start hryja on the middle to light side where shes stacki...
whats the benefit?
lofty widget
way less group dmg
quick harbor
right
deft hazel
last boss in nokhud a nightmare in pugs and I end up getting blamed
edgy spear
i've started just asking for CC on far right one
deft hazel
Yeah I asked to cc like left or right side and work on them separately, apparently it's a waste of time, until we wipe and lose lust and time spent on boss
Had a rough smbg, group was blaming me for how I moved boss based on beam location but they all kept dying to ritual of bones dot
haughty orchid
I can't really decide between using Granyth's Scale or Blazebinder hoof? Any thoughts on which one/when to use?
craggy pilot
what would i swap out for Bounding Stride here? 🤔
lofty widget
id swap pain and gain
craggy pilot
good for Embralskul at least
limpid anchor
Embraldkul? Is that the second in Rlp?
craggy pilot
last boss AV
limpid anchor
Ah
Well, doesn’t help much either tbh
1 jump is far enough without strife
You could use the shield avatar proc thing
For an extra cleanse :)
sick sentinel
Should I be opening my 5 timewalking cache as prot or fury?
ocean venture
What Horde races are you guys playing? I’m currently UD at m+17’ish is it worth swapping to highmountain or zandalari?
amber siren
If you have to ask, you're not playing at a level that matters
And even then the difference is so minor
steady steppe
Should I be opening my 5 timewalking cache as prot or fury?
Do u want dps trinkets or a 2hander
lofty widget
it wont have any real effect on your play, but if you think it looks better go for it
ocean finch
if I wanna remove embellishment on shield (just crafted waist and have lariat), is it a chance it will derank if I recraft for removal of armor spike?
silent anchor
if I wanna remove embellishment on shield (just crafted waist and have lariat), ...
no, crafting with embellishment lowers the rank
amber siren
It genuinely wasn't a dig - racials are at the point that they're near negligible
steady steppe
if I wanna remove embellishment on shield (just crafted waist and have lariat), ...
If u go to a different crafter with less skill yes
silent anchor
its crafting ability goes up without it
silent anchor
It genuinely wasn't a dig - racials are at the point that they're near negligib...
i think its the way u worded it which was terrible imo
amber siren
🤷
silent anchor
"if you have too ask, you aint playing at a level that matters"
kinda dickish, but thats my opinion
sick sentinel
Do u want dps trinkets or a 2hander
Well nobody wants a 2h right - but is the weigh up of the chance to get one of the good DPS trinkets the worth while choice?
ocean venture
it wont have any real effect on your play, but if you think it looks better go f...
Thanks!
steady steppe
Well nobody wants a 2h right - but is the weigh up of the chance to get one of t...
Idk it depends on what trinkets u have atm
lyric geode
I am pretty certain vault will give me shield, now that I have upgraded my own
lofty widget
Well nobody wants a 2h right - but is the weigh up of the chance to get one of t...
if you can get a shield upgrade from the box id open in prot, otherwise id roll for dps trinkets
steady steppe
I am pretty certain vault will give me shield, now that I have upgraded my own
415 skovald incoming
steady steppe
Crit mast shield isn't that good tho I think
lofty widget
a shield is a shield
clear fjord
I've been told that we can interrupt frost shield of RLP 1st boss with commanding shout, anyone knows the timing or has a clip of it? I've tryed and failed a couple of times.
sick sentinel
if you can get a shield upgrade from the box id open in prot, otherwise id roll ...
Thank you
sick sentinel
Idk it depends on what trinkets u have atm
M0 trinkets
Basically fresh ding m0 plate group geared up
So everything's gonna be a massive upgrade
steady steppe
I've been told that we can interrupt frost shield of RLP 1st boss with commandin...
Idk i know that wailing arrow used to interupt it but was patched recently
steady steppe
So everything's gonna be a massive upgrade
Prob just open on prot
sick sentinel
Okay dude thank you