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Pretty much everything works on the crystals
Except shit that says "only works on x, y, z"
no
but that might be for their self buff?
yeah all displacements work i just dont remember fear
oh we're talking about the shards
yeh
I just prefer staying in dstance there because if even one gets off it's a bootypucker
just desync them
im pretty sure it works since I just did it in a 20 last night but maybe I overlapped fear with something
so that the frontals just hit after the last one's debuff faded
like 2 disruptions and they're usually dead anyway
That's really the only place I think, bstance the rest
Actually the last pack of tojs
I dstance
I'm a man
running from that pack is troll
solo stunning is really good to desync tank busters
i run if we have a hunter or rogue to md
but face tanking that shit on fort weeks is like
idk
im a bitch i guess
get in, use every cd, run for your life
also running has worked every time and been clean
so that's also why we do it lol
just long enough for dps to kill any 2 of the little bros
facetanking them IS running to your grave
Decoration Flame vs Windscar Whetsone (Same Ilvl) For m+?
yes we're warriors
Shockwave first fear second stun desync the pair
that's what we do
If they're still alive your dps are sleeping
Whetstone. Survival is for wimps
Whetstone
I've the waist
otherwise ghash is correct
so don't really need trinket to proc them
more fire procs is more dmg
oh ok
the pack just needs to die faster, running from pack with fear/frontal going off can just fuck the dps and if the big guy summons adds, and you’re in the middle of running your dps more fucked
How better is prot war defensive wise to blooddk
i just went into AV and it looks like you can fear these guys
Do you guys have any macros you find crucial to your play?
Windscar def hits more than the ring + deco combined
but it only feared 1 of them instead of an aoe fear
Windscar is 5kish dps on its own
how are people feeling about the Blazebinder?
I have a macro where when I press Avatar, it spams YOLO in /yell chat
yea its what i feel as well
i feel like the trinket trolls me 50% of the time
i have a macro that yells SR in every channel
just goes off right when theres nothing near
thats about it
In all seriousness, I do have an @ player macro for Ravager, and the stance and IP/SS macros
in the pins
ok nvm intim shout does work on the crystalline guys
it's just not listed in the mdt notes i guess
DUH
The only thing I look at that info for is to see if they have stealth detect and even that isn't alway right
always
for the most part, if the mob is level 70 any cc works on it
I have a macro that casts the upgraded heroic throw when I charge. Throw is off the GCD and it makes it super easy to grab packs of 3 off a single charge
if it’s 71 you can’t cc it
Throw isn't off the GCD. Charge is.
Whichever 😂
Hi guys, ive been told that IP is getting a 11 second cd on the ptr... I cant find anything about it online, please tell me this is someone playing a horrible joke on me and not reality...
Ok fellow prot warriors why the fuck i get 6 orbs on AV last boss if i have 0 stacks. Is this because healing threat and me outhealing healer? any advise what to do there how to avoid orbs beside HL?
Orbs and stacks have no correlation. They just chase after whoever has the highest healing threat.
Hey, still new to prot. But I think my damage is low. Weapon is now 392 and shield is 385. Overall 393. In dungeons I’m nearing 30k overall in general. In some I do more. But I feel like I should be higher. Thoughts on what I may be doing wrong?
isnt it priority? Healing threat then stacks? Thats why they are sometimes on dpses?
embrace battle stance, reject defensive stance
it was best advice i get from this discord defensive stance = gay
Generally, using defensive instead of battle, using too much IP and not enough Revenge, not using damage CDs on CD
take hleap cdr talent, charge away to shards, save avatar for when it gets bad, and use thundering to run away and then clear after
healer shouldn’t have to dispel you, should be using those dispels on dps
The healer should be dispelling whoever the orbs are chasing
Either themselves or the tank
This was my feeling. Should I be stance dancing then or only in defense when in trouble?
is there not a pin for this?
Use defensive stance like a defensive. On tankbusters
d stance when in trouble
Or hard hitting packs
Learn the fights and DStance for tankbusters
defensive stance is also good for opening up big pulls
prevents getting bonked to back hits
hello! odd question, On advisor melandrus, his slicing maelstrom, whenever i block, i hear the sound effect of something getting blocked, is this an audio bug? i did check the block/reflectable chart, and it says no.
I prefer to use BStance for opening on packs (for threat) and use Shield Wall to handle the defensiveness
not all of them
first pull of rlp for example
I am in defensive stance while pulling
then switch as I pull everything and pop an actual defensive
it gives a good amount of safety while not really costing much in damage
and the guy wanted to charge people for the addon 
I have no issue with that. It's not like mob info is the reason people use the addon anyway. I just had an issue with how he went about it. It was reactionary and out of anger.
What is the best way to find a raiding guild these days?
warcraft logs has a recruitment tool, there is a massive recruitment discord which is honestly really good, and several other websites have recruitment functions on them
Can you share the recruitment discord?
I've given up hope of them tuning last boss AV anymore
they need to just remove it from the game
it's so bad
remove orbs and it's fine 
there are so many things they could do
but I'd rather them just remove the fight entirely
it's overdue
i can get behind that 
erga deadge

For M+, should I be enchanting myself with Leech or Avoidance?
Not particularly. Sorry it's been awhile 😂
Well you have your answer
Leech
Thank you!
Avoidance is better for dps/healers than for tanks
And bracers/cloak are the only slots I can enchant it with, correct? The rest are just random stats when the item itself drops
Correct
Thank you!
Any advice for how to deal with the trash between the first and second bosses in AV? Specifically the trash on the rings. It's consistently the hardest part of any dungeon for me.
De sync the frontals
Use stuns and/or fear
Don't get pounded twice
And make sure your dps is kicking root and sleep
With your help
I think it's more having control over the pulls that I struggle with there. It seems incredibly difficult to move some of the mobs around, and I don't understand how to handle the pats.
What key lvl?
I love that instead of fixing the dot going away after the wall disappears on the last boss in smbg they just buffed the dot essentially 1 shot you instead the other day
Just in general. I'm mostly doing around 15 and 16 at the moment, but it's a consistent issue.
ticks for 200k every 1s on a 20 tyr lol
Idk should be free on that key lvl even if u stand in everything
Just don't face ur team with Piercing Shard
That's super dependent on gear, but yeah I know about the frontal
It's moving stuff around I struggle with
what do you mean
Well then its only interuppts/CCs, avoid the marks on the ground
if you start going left you wont have issues
leave shards for last
they dont do frontal right off the bat, so you can adjust as needed by moving the back to avoid the solo + crystal pat
moving back and then facing away from group of course
The big guys seem almost impossible to move to me
the big genie looking guys?
Yeah
those shouldn't be there for shards though
and honestly they arent hard just move back and theyll move to you eventually
I don't know, I guess I don't understand the timing or something
i think youre just confused
Almost always the pats end up getting pulled
the pat with the genie guy shouldn't be an issue
You don't have to move it + u can kill the pats with the guy
theres no shards with those
you just have to kick roots/sleep
that's it
absolutely no frontals on that side
It seems like people still die super frequently
well that's their fault for not kicking root/sleep
Well, I'll try the always go left strat, I do think that will help me some for sure
Is BrV fixed yet? lol
whats the consensus on the tier set, worth getting or not over ilvl?
can maybe look into the ring skip route if you dont like doing those. i think it's time efficient anyway?
I mean, 4pc is basically 5% leech
Don't you end up effectively fighting harder trash?
mmmm
Also, there definitely is one pull with both the genie and golem
first room i guess?
genie doesnt do anything
and it's 1 shard piercer so kinda also w/e
The problem I have is moving him
The pat that walks into him is two golems
Unless you go right first, but then you face the same issue really
i mean idk if you're asking how to do this without doing mechanics or like how to do this properly...
maybe i'm confused
but shard guys dont really matter
its not 2 golems
you cc them til they're dead
if they get a cast off you'll be fine anyway just dont point at your group
big genie guy drops circles on the floor
just move...
One golem one elemental my bad
I should probably have full vers haste gems with lariat so I proc for hast > vers right?
like there comes a key level where you have to actually know how to handle trash correctly
how do you deal with the 3rd boss of academy the beak destroy me and i find myself lacking rage
I'm not the one dying, but it seems like virtually always there's at least one DPS who dies
the one on the right is the patrol to th e left
if youre worried about that pat
youre doing it wrong
There's a bottom pat too, and that one has a golem
THAT"S GOING RIGHT
But it walks into the genie
ss your mdt route lol
didnt we just talk about this?
i think there may be some larger problem at work here
whats the best lariat setup for us
by the time you reach that genie, you will have ALL the room to the back
the patrol doesnt agro if the genie is up
Okay, but that's my original question, how do you move the genie?
cause if the genie is stuck where he is, hes not within social agro
wait why do you want to move the genie
you wait
if you dont want to double pull the pack
Really? That does not seem to work for me
and if you want to double pull the pack, just pull the pat to the genie
the genie does absolutely nothing
I mean that waiting doesn't seem to work
and again
👆
youre making this way too complicated
just forget about the dumb genie
you can hand hold ring trash really fuckin hard as a prot war lol
and even then, if youre worried about a single shard....
Hey just gonna keep asking. Do we use Vers/Haste gems over Haste/vers if we are using lariat to proc for haste?
It's more that if I try to walk away, DPS usually pull and get insta gibbed
no, vers is yucky
?
my dude, that's their fault
crit/haste* but yeah haste should be the lower stat
kk
I mean maybe it's their fault, but I'm looking for a way to remedy this since it causes me problems
well you cant
intersting most warriors i have seen are running haste vers
if you're worried they butt pull
IF they pull it
just pull the patrol in and stack all 6
Lariat procs based on the LOWER of the two stats on the Gem
Yeah I just worded it the wrong way around
i actually didnt know this and that's dumb. gotta redo <.<
If I walk back they pull the pack, if I pull the pack myself then most groups can't keep up with the interrupts
but to clarify the main reason you guys value crit over haste is because crit gives us more dps?
you can interrupt so much by yourself
dps and parry
just because most higher tier warrior I saw (stream warcraft logs etc) all have haste vers stat priors
is big bird still bugged? or was it ever bugged, just buffed?
It's a deliberate move by Bliz to get away from people stacking one stat to rule them all; it's why we have dual-stat gems at all, and why dual-stat gems (and food) give more overall stats than single-stat equivalents.
you saw nerftank which is a doofus
check the other warriors
D: thats mean
almost all top warriors on warcraft logs are running vers/haste or Haste/vers .D
anyone that couldnt keep up banner for long in s3/s4 is a doofus
ok let me go through this again
ok fair
should i use victory rush to try to break the healing absorb from jade serpent strike?
forget warcraft logs
if you want to live 😄
debatably so
yeah i'd rather just die sometimes on that boss
but then your group gets mad and it's a whole thing
spellblock/VR every other one
at this stage of an expansion, "top tank in the world" means "had completely free time over christmas to do nothing but M+"
Is the trinket from COS one of the Bis trinkets for prot?
big cd / heal external every other other one
it's bis on like everyone 🤣
shit is wildly op
even here in the top 5 2 have hast vers lariats xD
The Windscar Whetstone? It's excellent for M+ purposes
you can spell reflect jade serpent strike?
I think it might just be prefrence
can you check the rest?
you get mitigation on it
Alright cool thanks!
does it mitigate the absorb too
i did helm and lariat
Which is a fair enough comment. Nimchips comment was just "top warrios run it" and the top warriors run both
Lariat and Wrists of teamwork or w/e they are called
they dont
bro
other tanks doo too
cccCool 😄
how are the wrists?
.....
brother in christ are you a top 20 dps warrior?
for 3 expansions or more
they are
ah here it is
prot warrior*
they are doing 30s, are you?
They are frankly kinda unnoticable. It's a Vers buff. Which is nice, but not gamebreaking.
because i know shit
that's not what you were saying
HOW ON FUCKING EARTH CAN THE HIDDEN ARTIFICAT NEVER SPAWN
None of the embelishments are that good
Seriously I remeber why I shouldnt go on warrior discord lots of people who thing they know best
@warm plinth
yeah that's kinda what i expected so i made the helmet thinking it'd proc more than it actually does
you see this shit lol
Genuily he worst class discord imo
you weren't saying what they are doing is only because they run r1 keys, you said they're dumbasses
also disappointing damage on the reflect =/
totally different
yeah thats a fair answer
but this guy just says falst statements
they are
check the #1 warrior
why is he running NOT versa
that is demonstrably false man
go get it 💪
we know for a fact nerf cant play well
I'm genuinely thinking in a few weeks I might make something with the one that extends the potion duration
Just so you know you have such a bad rep on here that other class discord warn from going on here
join warrior discord to get advice
gets the advice
"no, you're wrong"
maybe change your attitude

fantastic
that or food is like the go-to right? they seem pretty safe bets. was considering picking up a ring to deal with my lack of haste. they....dont seem unique equipped? but maybe? idk
you call saying bad facts advice?
no
Is the 1h sword worth the craft?
he just called over 30% of the top 20 warrior dumbasses
waht is the diminishing return on hate for prot?
get strike twice
no, you're just being a dumbass lol
no i called Nerf a dumbass
Hey guys, fresh 70 prot warrior here 🙂 im using the mythic build from icyveins is that a good starter build for heroics?
What is strike
youre just an idiot, can you leave already?
bro as I said others running haste vers too
nokhud weapon
vers is only necessary at HIGH keys
the m+ one? yes 🙂
did you even check the link you sent
thanks
?
Yes thats or the ones in the pins
otherwise haste crit does more dmg since you dont need survivability
ok then just run vers, cya
🤷♀️
yep thats the one
thats facts
I thought he was leaving
stormed out without storming out.
top pwarr has one each of crit/haste and vers/haste
you sent 3 randoms, 1 being dratnos, that's more than enough
Nim lets tone it down yer
🤷♂️
thoughts on disrupting shout anyone?
I'm a JC; the JC Crafted rings are unique-equipped
kinda started running it a lot
This is hard yikes
too expensive to get imo
unique to each other? or themselves
read this
There are two different craftable rings either way
situational but probably has good uses. Safer play if you don't wanna rely on your teamies
dps loss tho
Themselves; you can have one of each, no problem
look at this @lusty grotto and read
wait that's kinda dope 😮
bro
BRO
tbf they are running vers/haste and not haste/vers
weren't you leaving?
but they're all running that combo
also they both come with a free socket, which is nice (especially if you have a Lariat)
I keep scrolling up and up and I just see the same thing over and over
yeah def making one next week then. unsure if i wanna replace melandrus since mine has a socket too =/
prolly not worth actually. crit/haste anyway
very good in some dungeons, nok/rlp for sure. tjs/av/HoV debatable
i'm wondering how much of a damage loss it actually is
btw thanks for giving reasoning why they are running this and accualy linking stats not just showing opinions
sim it 
trying to pull up my talent tree i used in the 20 av i did
does it matter if it saves lives lol
Extremely situational and not of super much use for most M+ dungeons, as it's an interrupt and not a silence. Most use cases you would have for it can be solved with LOS'ing the mobs, saving the talent point
still waiting on them leaving
they already left
So, I'm running Spell Block for TJS but, I'm pretty confident I'm not getting the most use out of it. Where do you guys recommend it's a perfect, makes the difference moment?
good
I'm still here so
3rd boss for sure but its better to overuse it than to hold it too much
you must be new
you can use it on water boss trash for bolts/tainted waters thing
2nd boss is good
Take the arguement outside
works for haunting gazes
etc
pack before last boss for sure is good for spell block
works on dark claw too
Not really, you’re just being a dick for no reason
with all the dark claws + haunting gaze
Anytime you're taking magic damage of note, euch as dark claws you don't have reflect for, Haunting Sha casts that aren't the fear, Helping the CD rotation in third boss, etc
Stop trying to reatart it leave it
Yeah, felt really good there. I did 44k HPS on that pack. We pulled the whole lot as we were very short on time.
huge
16% uptime on it over the course of TJS so, I was definitely using it a lot.
3rd boss jade phase LOL
Hateful gaze
Dark claw
3rd boss
we're not the ones that started it man
but you continued 
Right i dont care
Thanks everyone, greatly appreciated.
guy claims top warriors run haste vers
a fight doesn't start with the first person
links 3 randoms including dratnos
i link entire io leaderboard because i know how this argument usually goes
goes on the typical "youre not them" charade, blah blah
no use trying to change opinions on someone who believes they're riht
just gonna be a shitfest
everyone throwing shit at eachother for the sake of throwing shit
a guild mate told me that we will get a buff in the next patches. is that true ? cant find anyhting about it
obviously mention nerf is an idiot and has been an idiot since legion
only one person has been throwing shit this whole time lmao
Wait this vers conversation is still going on?!
yeah the guy that left
Very unlikely.
No if anything we will get a nerf
Uhm what is that item called where food buff goes through death?
I would keep the JSoM
I gotta tell ya this CoS prison is getting boring now 
the playerbase would be hella upset if we actually got buffed
Just hope we aren't in the class notes.
just get it 
But we would be happy
Ironially it's boots not dropping that's bugging me more
i prefer not being viewed as s+++
yeah i got some random other crit/mastery ring with a socket and idk
would rather have the crit/haste option from craft ring
Why would the player bases be upset at arms buffs?
prot buff
they shouldnt
Lol s++ is enough right
but there are always outliers
at least subcreation is putting other tanks with us in S
so we're not just in S with A and B both emtpy like it was 2 weeks ago
class feels great rn but i miss SL warr where we were seen as absolute dogwater even though we were great
other tanks are pretty good, people are just blinded by "meta"
I prefered it when we were really good but all the idiot streamers didn't realise it, so we could just get on with owning shit without having to deal with endless variations on "but such-and-such a streamer says X" when the streamers don't know shit
We are supposed to take the least healing warrior is literally designed that way
i like making my healer feel redundant by pulling packs when they're still on the runback
and having no issues
It's literally down to how hard it is to perform basic functions
Healers are there to keep the DPS classes alive
ruby life pools - how are people living?
the will of god
i...think we were more ridiculous in bfa
and defensives
so we're probably fine
The amount of times ive answered this question lol

Hello so i just started using prot warrior finished leveling it to 70 and right now am 355 ish ilvl and during most keys i've done today (got to do a 10 CoS in time so i'm happy)but i often find myself in situations where i really struggle to get rage and on those moments i dont have shield slam or thunderclap up to use is it just bad spells managment or is there something i'm not understanding i checked a guide for the basic but still dont know much about the min maxing side of it 😄
Stack defensives, pump ip like hell
double wall, demo, healer defensives, parry RNGesus (cause crit is superior to vers)
Cooldowns and a Preservation Evoker to cleanse the bleed
are you taking Bloodsurge?
easier to tell with logs. Probably not running right talents or just overusing spenders like revenge or IP
When DF launched I just kind of half assed a spec, but I’m trying to actually look at builds now. What’s the benefit of shield charge
Read your talent tactition
good aoe damage, you get free revenge proc as well as shield block duration
its a great ability
also works as a stun if ever needed ig
genereates good rage
Is it meant to replace standard charge?
shield charge hits like a damn truck
you use both
It's used as a damage cd
This. It hits like a truck, especially with Battering Ram and 30% crit chance
So you pretty much only ever use it in melee range
i feel like shield charge is like 90% crit lol
double shield charge talents 👌
b/c it is lmao
that shit hits almost as hard as my shield slam
but aoe
yes i am this is the talent tree i was using for most runs
oh pretty standard
shouldnt have rage issues then
most likely using rage generation while maxed im guessing?
You can drop BSV for Battering Ram
there's definitely talents i'd move but shouldnt be having rage issues
you can always weave charges if you need more rage but you're probably spending too much on spenders
but def take both shield charge talents
i'm still not used with the talent names so what is BSV? 😄
or not using demo shout / pressing Shield slam / thunder clap enough
do you also running booming voice?
keystone middle talent bottom
yeah i run booming
oh battle scarred veteran?
i've never felt like i needed it and not had it tho
y
anyone know how this 2500 rating item they give you works? like is it a transmog or wat? this gleaming incarnate thunderstone
Battle-Scarred Veteran, middle talent on the bottom row
then def yes to thunderlord I'd say
i mean i get the reasoning for it
but show of force is like
just more damage?
idk
you take both
i simmed a bunch of different little things
ok got it thanks 😄
it adds some effects to the tier set transmogs permanently afaik
is there a way to turn it off
What you are running - assuming you make that change - is almost exactly what I run on Fort weeks. On Tyr weeks I prefer an Immovable Object build
this is what i was running for a long time, dunno where i'd have gotten a free point for it
not sure. i just got it yesterday myself. and saw a SS of it like last week
i think for warrior it added some stuff to the helm? i forget
shockwave capstone is yucky
ok sounds good i'll check that out too, really like how you can have alot of talent builds saved, defo a life saver
I don't run the bottom left talent in M+
and then youre using shockwave to do damage, which puts DR up
using your stun as a damage cd instead of utility feels bad
and the only way it outperforms roar is to literally use it on cd
i also dont know who thought it was a good idea to rename Dragon Roar into Thunderous Roar for their expac about DRAGONS
maybe that's where they drew the line for "too much"
i cant anymore anyway b/c i only get 1 talent out of that row with thunderlord and i take bsv for high keys now
i really wish talent trees didnt wipe the bottom half if you took out a point to change in the top half
that is incredibly annoying and like the first thing someone should have noticed in QA
<.<
yeah..i've just gotten in the habit of removing capstones to put in the talent i want, then removing the talent i'm replacing to put the capstone back
annoying but better than redoing 10 points
Ugh. I guess I’ll have ro learn more keybinds.
I’ve been avoiding it for years. I have HL and taunt on mouse buttons
Get more mouse buttons
Shield charge itself is a new ability though
purple wafting devotion weapon enchant is cheaper on my server atm than the blue sophic writ - with the bigger proc from epic enchant and speed boost would yall say that's about even trade?
looks almost like a pricing mistake, its 4k for the tier 2 Wafting Devotion, tradeskill master says regional sale average is 40k. Cheap enough I better buy a few in case it's a price mistake
I just have trouble getting used to more abilities
Does anyone know (i.e. has PTR access) if the Catalyst will allow you to change non-tier pieces into their raid equivalanets like the SL one did?
There's a set of gear on wowhead with the same set name, can look it up there
i cant confirm that
I was hoping someone actually knew
hard to say if it's a pricing mistake on dalaran EU prices are -> Wafting devotion: T1 = 4999g T2 = 7000g T3 = 27999g and Sophic Writ -> T1 = 5000g T2 = 6300g T3 = 7222g
cool thx for the reference
i guess most players who keep up with enchants at this point are ready to use a longterm one so they spring for the T3 so huge drop in price from T3 to T2
Didn't they also increase drop rates of lots of mats?
most of yall prolly have ur 418 recrafts so no need for temp enchants anymore
Making the price half over night?
ahh that's great, prices were insane first couple weeks
I dont know what they changed but it was a lot of trade chat moan past day
yeah i'm guessing prices are naturally going to drop too i doubt enchants will still be around 80k for some in around 1-2 months
like s3's catalyst you can only do 2 per week iirc
Oh the prices will tend downwards, ofc. Also ignore the T1 prices; there are very low volume because almost everyone can make T2
so not sure why youre worried about off pieces
ooh was it just buffed for next reset?
i'm using one just cuz it's my 2nd highest ilvl one atm
Transmog. The True Endgame.
sweet that'll breathe more life into my Toe, better than nothing even if not huge
for the TW chest - it's a normal raid piece so it can be 389 or a 395 if from the later bosses?
sim
Ok, are either of them worth spending valor to upgrade would you say or should I save the valor?
valor on trinkets is pretty cheap but i wouldnt do it personally
Ruby Whelp Shell is/was big poopoo
Alright, thanks guys!
Any tips for the twin boss in TJS?
dont know whats better on higher keys usually you just focus one and swap to the other at 7 stacks
if you push it til its immune phase it doesnt do aoe damage tho
other than that its just use IV and rotate defensives, you can use Spell reflect on it.
aight, cheers
if i have Alchemical Flavor Pocket on my shield, can i take it out and use it on another item? 🤔 or does it get "lost" when i recraft it off
it gets lost
it works as any embelishment
you remove it, its gone
(even if it doesnt count as one)
anyone have the fire proc ring and frostfire belt does it work decently?
around 2% overall damage for me
Free effect on ring is free, belt ppm is sufficient to get full ring effect
Am finding it impossible to use Engi Brez bracers because i cannot find the dead body in the heat of battle to enter the melee range necessary to brez. Is there an addon or WA that highlights the location if dead bodies
What i do is select the dead body via party frame and check mini map to see icon of what I have selected
theres an option in the default client
that whatever your target is, you can find it easily on the minimap
it puts a red/gold marker on the minimap
hey guys quick question I got huge amount damage on 19 SBG from skeletons with void slash
any tips for that pack?
spell block, spell reflect, double wall
appreciate it spell block needed i guess thx a lot
it wont save you from multiple though
since long cd
but you can alternate cds as needed for them if nobody is soothing
stun / use CDs / outrange during cast
👆
yeah thx i did not realize they are doing so much damage so i shocked at bit first 😄
Maybe I am missing something, but the WA in the pinned area for Spell Reflect doesnt seem to trigger in M+. Am I just missing something? Or if this for raid only?
If just learning the class, tank in defensive stance
depends on your style but if you are new just use defensive stance till you get confident imo
The other will do a bit more damage, but you will take 15% more damage
The "optimal" way to play is sit in battle until you need the Dr from defensive for certain mechanics or hard pulls
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
if you need a macro
But hard to master
thanks guys i w look into that
So better if you're new to stay in defensive until you're comfortable with what your damage intake looks like
ty bros ❤️
359 blazebinder or 376 docoration of flame? kekW
btw into the fray over heavy rep ?
They do very different things so hard to compare. What's your other trinket
Into the fray is really hard to beat if you have enough melee round to get the buff stacks.
hr is only the sb uptime check and more rage to spend
398 hunger of the pack with str and crit strk
you cannot maintain it on bosses
yo im using it rn but some wars told me to go into the fray because of dmg
they are idiots
Lol...all of the best prot warriors on the planet are running it though...
Idiots is a bold statement...
i told them sb 100% and more rage to spend it good too
what phial are most people using in high keys? just vers? are people opting for damage or?
but tbh battlestance and into the fray is a big dmg buff
I use glacial fury mostly
is dps supposed to be at around 60k?
im 405 and the Fury was also 405 🤔
i thought they were supposed to be a bit higher
@jagged pier you deal with this
like 10-15% more compared to the other 😄
You don’t use cds for it… just stun or reflect and then walk away while they cast it for the rest once you get aggro
is the court of stars ring BIS
AA?
yea but feel like its weird im doing 44k dps, and DPS are doing 59 only
thought they should be way higher
isnt Fury burst AOE tho?
more than Prot?
I like Deco tbh but both trinkets are good. Just depends if you want the extra damage instead of a shield
and he had PI from Priest all the time 😄
its "slightly" ramp cuz hurricane
yea same
Just did a RLP and the dps kept melee'd by the add on Kokia despite the fact that I had full aggro - is that range based or something?
it doesnt move
you need to be in melee range
I was and they kept getting meleed
you werent if they were getting meleed.
I mean I can't be anymore on top than what I was in 3 tries
that was really weird, first time that ever happened
The flame elemental?
yeah
if your only getting threat by a clap/revenge/slam you can still have dps rip off you.
Hard to say with just what you're saying but to answer your question it should never do that
Ngl I have been getting aggro and then moving boss to bait boulders and there’s been no issue.. we’re your dps dying?
Boulders don't bait on tank unless I misunderstood.
I taunt it every time just in case but yeah that was really weird
tank can move it to help bait it to right spots though cuz it'll aim at ur party?
tank doesn't actually do the baiting i assume
I need to make sure everyone is behind boss or boulders fuck up path and we get closed off
Guildie just claimed, that second boss in rlp hits harder, when she's next to the add. Can anyone confirm?
it seems that way cuz she happens to do the searing dot series shortly after add spawns and we tend to be near it
so it looks like tank health drops a lot when he gets near the add 🙂
She just casts the bleed after shes cast the ads
I knew it was bs. Thanks for clarifying
You can always read the dungeon log
one of those correlation does not equal causation things
did yall do the 5 TW dungeons just for a chance at 389 tier piece?
don't think you can get tier from the cache, can you?
Hi 🙂 any Lariat crafter Twisting Nether EU?
Didn’t get tier piece, but got my ass kicked on that bird dungeon
What’s the best way to rank the first boss in azure
I can reflect infused strike?
Yes
Well that’s good to know thanks
And it's up for all of them pretty sure
Anyone know when you would replace the Cobalt Assembly rings? Like, what ilevel ring with proper stats would beat the value of the (usually damage) proc?
sim it
hmm 408 court ring and a heroic fire proc ring was gunna craft a ring next week before i got the raid one now what to use the spark on
Do you have belt for the fire ring already?
What belt do you need?
I forget the exact name but it's the frostfire crafted belt
Thx a lot!
unstable frostfire belt
frozen or sophic enchant on weapon whats the verdict
anyone have any issues with pulling aggro off of your cotank in raid? is that just a "i'm pumping too hard" issue?
yup i constantly pull aggro from my dk cotank. he has enough taunts though :)
Just rotate defensives for each one
can raszageth's electrified jaws be spell reflected?
Could be they are not pushing buttons correct
he seems to be doing fine, parsing decently well
Well parsing doesn't mean anything so
yeah, was about to add "for all that's worth" kek
Lol
Just would have to have someone who knows the class look at logs
I'm assuming they're not warrior
they're dk
what potion should we use for m+? power? is shocking discosure any good?
Shocking Disclosure is better in bigger AOE and isn't too bad in ST, either, so generally shocking's a good default
i'm about to be doing heroic brood.. 2 tanking this fight. do u know when he does mortal strike i use spell reflect b4 he does any hard hits? any tips? cos i know i get hit hard
Particularly since it's a lot cheaper than power pots
Thanks 🙂
Did the same thing last night. I had to actively stop damage at times to avoid ripping aggro off the blood dk I was tanking with.
any of yall play around with the shockwave capstones? Think it has any viability over dragon's roar?
in lower keys maybe, but not in higher keys
Not if they're playing good
yeah figured as much
No lol
His weapon ilvl was higher. I was 4th overall in dps for every fight while he was 10th or so. The group wasn't amazing but it was fine for clearing the first 6 bosses on normal mode.
on equal skill
yeah that's just bad play then
Lol
@clear spindle ive had an issue with a friend of mine when i was in a pug with him yesterday, i never stop, if he cant hold aggro he can learn how to, not gonna hinder my game play because some one else cant keep up 😛
Crazy
bruh
yes?
Never have I ever seen people have aggro problems because of weap dps
It's always because people are playing like doggy
it happens on higher keys
so it happens just about everywhere
im not disagreeing with you
its more often than not people playing incorrectly
but ilvl does contribute, granted they are indeed playing correctly
Sure
We can agree on that
But def not even considering ilvl or wep DPS before a rotation review
Many people went 1h 418 over shield first because they can't press keys then
When holding aggro has never been this easy
yeah well
ive been absolutely boned on weapon drops so
im making weapon on tues
fuck it
and watch me get something on the vault like always
i know my vault luck all too well
-30k, just made mine today, shield always was prio for me anyways
theres also the special case of rings
where i got the dumb JY ring like 3 weeks before s4 ended lmao
after farming, i lost count of how many
Guys whats the way to go for crafting for prot iam tanking now the RAID ans have Neck and belt whats the third Item ?
im usually fairly lucky getting first time drops like good trinkets and stuff out of normal/heroic, and then we get to mythic and i dont see an upgrade in weeks
Sorry I was just tilted and prob misread your tone/context 🤝
Yeah I can relate to that, bow 2nd kill on Hunter
I think I never got it on S4, but then again, I never really farmed for it
Warr still running around with 372 boots
Like sometimes when you dont actively farm things, you get them dropped faster, biased perspective
I've ran 25 cos at least, carrying bunch of people for either chest or ring
Do the cobalt damage ring procs contribute to brutal vitality?
2nd boss in RLP with Searing Blows, is Spell Block more effective than just Shield Block? Or are the hits all standard melee with a DoT afterwords?
The dot is physical
So, question for the homies who have had the opportunity to go into SBG, has anyone had smoo dot on them and they were in path of killed ritual mob? Happened to me 3 times, 2nd and 3rd i was being very cautios/aware of my position so i wouldnt brick the key
they hotfixed the DoT from the ritual of bones so it scales, strats mostly dead now
I wasnt using the cheese strat
Heard he was ass, so i went into him cautiously, to no avail
i still have my vault items, because raid tier sets .
i have a 418 crafted leg . and a 402 set leg in vault.
got no tset this week.
i have horn of valor 418 in vault too.
so.. would u take the legs to have 3/4 set pieces and higher chance to have next week 4/4 or would u prefer horn of valor 418 .
i only play m+. i jsut pug raid for sets
you need to be smack right in the middle
the path is substantially narrower than it appears
if youre having latency issues, it might contribute
that horn seems strong. even for higher keys as long as i can survive the pull without a defensive trinket
for the visuals ^^
Anyone have a good plater profile for M+ with priority mobs, etc?
do armor spikes embellishments stack?
not a cloak too?
unless youre planning on dual wielding them, in which case id like to know your secret
anyone know if the Bonemaw's BIg Toe trinket's breathe is just a single proc? does it proc randomly? (seems to have multiple animations, assuming its multiple procs)
are u sure u can only add armor spikes to a shield? pretty sure u can add it to any piece with a armor slot
good lord spiteful storm is pumping on st raid now
you can put them on bracers
but honestly i dont think anyone really does it
youre blocking an embelish slots for other items
how do you handle he 3rd boss of jade waves since you can't do the staircase anymore? any tricks?
Same as before, rotate cds and hope your healer is good
can you los the waves or the aoe
yeah but mistakes happen
sometimes storming is a fickle bitch
unless a storming knocks you to it, you pretty much have to walk to a wave to die from a wave
😎
what kills me on bird boss academy?
i did it on 11 today and that boss destroyed my booty hole
dot
one is a goal of fire i think its called, hit for 250k
then the peck, i guess i just didnt block it
stack IP before boss uses the dot and pool rage
and you can keep IP when dot is ticking
It breathes out in a cone in front of u during the 20sec its in use is active, every 2 sec or something
yeha tried it out learned via animations lmao
Trying to live through 6 to 7 jade hits on a 21 was fun.....
That means you stepped in the fire on the ground lol
does battle stance and defensive stance show up in logs, or what are they categorized as?
does burgeoning seed heal or just give more max hp
its the same as last stand i believe so both
You can’t block the peck anymore.
oh, when i saw it hits for 150k physical, i figured thats exactly what your supposed to do
isnt there a trick on the soup to get into an empty phase so u get all the tasks
You can block the initial hit can’t you?
Oh SR I’m thinking of. Not block
Savage peck is no longer blockable
It used to be, but now it's not anymore
You're now 100% at your healers mercy on Crawth
You can only SW every 4th peck, other than that your healer has to spam heal you
I don't think you ever could block it. You could dodge/parry it, but not block it I thought?
Yes it was blockable
The bleed itself obv wasn't, but the application of it comes with a physical nuke
how come thunderclap takes prio over shield bash during avatar but not during any time else
That shit does 400k dmg on 23 tyr
It doesn't
Wowhead is referring to unstoppable force
When thunderclap does 50% more dmg and has 50% reduced cooldown during avatar
Is there a way to tank 2nd boss of RLP on +21 or higher?
Cycle cooldowns
Which ones?
All