Ouch
#protection
ornate thunder
edgy spear
also had an outrageous amount of revenge casts compared to slams
talking 3:1 or more ratio
sick sentinel
not the greatest block up time
i would have barely made it if at all on a 15
those are CD's it says i used
raven fjord
Thing is i got a 402 shield 😛 And will guaranteed get the shield from M eranog when we kill him
slim dove
there's no guarantee it'll ever drop.
you get another spark next week, just make a 418 primal molten
weak imp
in a perfect world what embelishments should you use as a prot i guess the neck and what more. going to craft mainhand ^^
should i pick the wellfeed one and then go for other embelishment on other piece
toxic pewter
healer in my group just said 3rd boss temple of jade serpent is free
do you guys consider that boss free
tawny meteor
As a warrior the 2nd phes is a ass
toxic pewter
Yeah no idea what they talking about
i mean i run spell block and everything I told them to lust at 70% so we can get out of 2nd phase
blazing condor
healer needs to at least understand that it can really fuck tanks over
grim nymph
Does spell block work on Azureblade?
toxic pewter
how does Temple 2nd boss 'feeling of superiority' (dam and healing buff) target players? what determines who gets targeted?
blazing condor
Does spell block work on Azureblade?
Yeah
steel canyon
best way to tank last boss of azure vault?
median tulip
in a perfect world what embelishments should you use as a prot i guess the neck ...
Drop-dependant. You can craft the belt, if you have the raid rings (and probably a fire damage trinket of some kind). Personally I have the wrists of +Vers. The Potion one looks good if you're a potion addict like myself though
median tulip
best way to tank last boss of azure vault?
Either don't move, or move a lot. Don't stutter step.
slim dove
best way to tank last boss of azure vault?
clockwise around room, minimize WASD movement, use leap/intervene/charge (to crystals) to reposition.
steel canyon
Either don't move, or move a lot. Don't stutter step.
oh sorry, i meant like positioning? can i tank him somewhere so fractures spawn better
slim dove
avatar can be saved to clear roots also.
wind oak
use thundering affix to move
it doesnt cleanse the debuff but you cant be slowed during it
toxic pewter
the perma food buff extender thing they added is my favorite and doesnt even use an embelishment slot
slender blade
oh sorry, i meant like positioning? can i tank him somewhere so fractures spawn ...
you can stand on the wall kinda and that helps
vestal lintel
Is there any Elemental Lariat crafters here on Kazzak?
sick sentinel
is there still a keystone downgrader guy in main city
steep condor
2nd boss ruby life pools. Do you position the whole party together in one stack?
sick sentinel
im gunna check beside great vault
warm plinth
how does Temple 2nd boss 'feeling of superiority' (dam and healing buff) target ...
The initial target is random. You can hand off the debuff to 1 or more people by standing on top of them/them standing on top of you. This removes the debuff from you and gives it to them. Transferring the debuff to a new person starts them with fresh stacks and yours drop entirely.
toxic pewter
The initial target is random. You can hand off the debuff to 1 or more people b...
ty so much for this info
sturdy sable
2nd boss ruby life pools. Do you position the whole party together in one stack?
You can use that whole upper ring that youve cleared all the fire eles out of so the positioning is as key
If you use all that extra room
warm plinth
2nd boss ruby life pools. Do you position the whole party together in one stack?
You generally want everyone around the boss, as it makes it easier to bait both add spawns and molten boulders.
slender blade
im gunna check beside great vault
he is by the ports to the old dungeons
its a panda
warm plinth
The add can spawn on anyone including the tank, so once you've moved from the previous add, you want to stack with the party to bait the add spawn behind the boss (behind meaning where you just came from)
warm plinth
...
sick sentinel
where they at lol
sick sentinel
legit i didnt know there is portals too them
and none of my guild knows apparently
warm plinth
More accurately, there are portals to the areas of the old dungeons
Dalaran, Shadowmoon Valley, and Jade Forest
To the right of the steps leading up into the main building of Valdrakken
steep condor
If you use all that extra room
My ruby life pool headache is the boulder. It goes off all over the place covering the floor in fire patches. Not sure how to keep it clean.
sturdy sable
Or behind the boss
warm plinth
My ruby life pool headache is the boulder. It goes off all over the place coveri...
Boulder randomly targets a non-tank member of the party. People need to bait it either to the side or to where you were previously.
sturdy sable
And just point the bosses bum somewhere convenient
steep condor
Boulder randomly targets a non-tank member of the party. People need to bait it...
This is what I thought. Ok thanks for confirming.
Non tank - i didn’t realise that
blazing condor
that way you can guide the meatball
More like heatball amirite
versed nebula
Just got 398 ring from nokhud, I assume it is better than the tanking ring from cobalt assembly with all the vers right?
ionic yarrow
Hi, what gems should I put in my lariat aside from the main stat gem one ?
oblique kayak
the perma food buff extender thing they added is my favorite and doesnt even use...
would never take that off even if it would cost a slot
oak echo
Hi, what gems should I put in my lariat aside from the main stat gem one ?
If you want the proc to be haste your gems need to be low haste high other Stat. Vers or Crit is personal preference
ionic yarrow
If you want the proc to be haste your gems need to be low haste high other Stat....
tyvm!
toxic pewter
would never take that off even if it would cost a slot
yep same
steep condor
If you want the proc to be haste your gems need to be low haste high other Stat....
I didn’t know this! It procs the LOWER gem only?
warm plinth
Yes
toxic pewter
do you guys generally run lower haste gems or wat
oak echo
It procs off gem element which is determined by the lower Stat yeah
warm plinth
Lower meaning like...if your gem is crit > haste (meaning more crit than haste), the proc will be haste. Assuming all your gems are the same thing.
steep condor
Ahhh sheet I’ve got the wrong gems
If I play both fury and prot should I get big crit small haste gems?
deep plume
Hi, is icy-vains still the best talent build ?
warm plinth
The one in the pins is the one I use
weary python
Why do people go wild over the food buff ring embellishment? Seems like QoL only and not a throughput increase. Yeah it's free I get it
steep condor
If I play both fury and prot should I get big crit small haste gems?
Any advice on what gems to get for lariat if I play both fury and prot please?
oak echo
It's a throughout thing if you don't refresh your food buff every time you die
warm plinth
It's free. It's QoL. And it's not just for rings.
uncut zephyr
It's a nice bonus, feels weird to not get food buff when healer is drinking though
oak echo
Which most people don't do
warm plinth
And in keys, if you die, generally you don't want to take 10 seconds to reapply food
toxic pewter
its the best thing they added to wow in years
weary python
Prot warriors never die
oak echo
I'm probably buying it if I don't get it from the soup today.
toxic pewter
major buff to panda too
warm plinth
Plus it saves you money on food by doubling the duration and not requiring you to use multiple foods per dungeon (even if you did reapply it constantly)
steep condor
But it used up one of your two embellishments no?
steep condor
I’m getting that for sure
toxic pewter
once you have you you can never go back
steep condor
Can you tell me what ring you get made to put it on?
weary python
Signet of titanic insight
toxic pewter
can go on any crafted item that accepts embellishments
steep condor
Thanks
weary python
It can go on any item tho
toxic pewter
i put mine on my sword believe it or not
tired pivot
don't craft rings
weary python
don't craft rings
Take that back. My alt crafts 418 rings and gets rich.
steep condor
i put mine on my sword believe it or not
Ohhh it can go on sword!?
toxic pewter
Ohhh it can go on sword!?
Yah
steep condor
Nice
toxic pewter
may not be ideal to put on sword/shield if you play arms or fury but I dont so all good
tired pivot
yeah, only downside to those 2 things is they are prot only
ripe ore
how does haste affect shield block uptime?
oak echo
Lowers the sb cd
tired pivot
it lets you use shield bash more often
uncut zephyr
More shield slams for heavy repurcions + lower cooldown on block
ripe ore
does it cap out at 13 though?
tired pivot
13?
ripe ore
13s on the cd
uncut zephyr
no, you can check p easily by changing to ITF on the target dummies
ripe ore
f.e tooltip didnt change when taking 5% buff in algethar academy
tired pivot
what it does is let you cast shield slam more often
that is the main benefit to shield block uptime
with haste
ripe ore
cheers, was just trying to figure out how to have high uptime with ITF
broken light
is spell block good for soaking razageth beam?
tough ocean
just shield wall it
slim dove
youd use spell block anyways for the DR.
dont make the encounter any harder for your healers then it has to be.
w8 spell block
broken light
okay thanks, never used spell block so i dont know how it works
tough ocean
isn't it nature damage?
slim dove
spell reflect ofc youd use it
broken light
yeah i use reflect but just thought about if the block works too
to further mitigate the beam damage p3
slim dove
its thunderous blast right?
broken light
i think so yes
slim dove
it is blockable according to the spreadsheet
i dont see why not. tough as nails ain't gonna amount to much on her.
Yeah my last raz kill, tough as nails was a whole 1.69% of my dam.
warm plinth
how does haste affect shield block uptime?
To clarify, haste doesn't actually affect Shield Block uptime. It might affect how easy it is to have uptime, but you can have 100% effective uptime of shield block with 0 haste provided you're running Heavy Repercussions, Enduring Defenses, and Champion's Bulwark.
fossil gust
You need to use shield block + spell block together? Or it's only needed to use spell block?
warm plinth
Both
shrewd holly
Hey guys! I'm a bit new to prot warrior, what rings would I be using? the haste/vers from Nokhud? Or the crit/vers from raid, combined with court ring?
slim dove
both together.
warm plinth
You should always have Shield Block active regardless because it increases Shield Slam damage.
fossil gust
Cool 🙂
warm plinth
Hey guys! I'm a bit new to prot warrior, what rings would I be using? the haste/...
whatever you can get. Perfect world, probably the damage proc ring from raid and the court ring
shrewd holly
whatever you can get. Perfect world, probably the damage proc ring from raid an...
Okay, cause I do have the damage proc one, with Court atm but just got the ring from Nokhud as well
gleaming pawn
If we have 4pc, do we press ignore pain? or just spend rage on revenge?
warm plinth
You always have to press Ignore Pain for rage management
Revenge by itself won't prevent you from overcapping
gleaming pawn
ok
warm plinth
Okay, cause I do have the damage proc one, with Court atm but just got the ring ...
depends on the ilevels of them
steep condor
So what should I put this food embellishment on if I play both prot and fury?
shrewd holly
depends on the ilevels of them
ring from raid is 395(N version) and the ring from nokhud is 385 but i'm able to upgrade it
warm plinth
So what should I put this food embellishment on if I play both prot and fury?
an item that both specs use I'd imagine
warm plinth
ring from raid is 395(N version) and the ring from nokhud is 385 but i'm able t...
As it stands, it's an easy choice. But you can also do a top gear sim (click the plus on the nokhud ring to add the valor upgraded version) to see if upgrading the NO one would be better damage-wise.
It would be better defensively
to use the NO ring upgraded
shrewd holly
aite!
bold merlin
first 418 upgrade - sword, shield or lariat?
toxic pewter
I personally lean toward shield myself
warm plinth
shield>sword>whatever
bold merlin
cheers
brisk gust
How do I always have the camera to max zoom out so I dont have to scroll?
deep spruce
dont scroll back in?
torn pebble
Unbind zoom in
brisk gust
Ah yea that's the play, holy mb 🥲
shy python
it is blockable according to the spreadsheet
Which spreadsheet?
past locust
is there a reason why alot of prot warr in keys are running shockwave capstones instead of going into thunderous roar?
solemn aspen
on a tyrannical 20 AA, the wind stuff doesn't activate so can't reset the stack. Anyone encountered this ?
deep spruce
is there a reason why alot of prot warr in keys are running shockwave capstones ...
Who? I'd like to see the build
drifting needle
on a tyrannical 20 AA, the wind stuff doesn't activate so can't reset the stack...
Supa common 😦
deep spruce
on a tyrannical 20 AA, the wind stuff doesn't activate so can't reset the stack...
yeah buggy af
drifting needle
If it bugs it’s kinda kill or be killed.
past locust
Who? I'd like to see the build
ive had like 5 today who are running no ravager and no thunderous roar
deep spruce
on +20 AA, very likely be killed
past locust
only low IO tanks but still thought it was weird
deep spruce
ive had like 5 today who are running no ravager and no thunderous roar
at what kind of level keys?
solemn aspen
the key is bricked then ?
past locust
under 10s. just doing alts atm
deep spruce
under 10s. just doing alts atm
then there is no reason, they just dont have a clue what theyre doing
past locust
it just seemed very common
slim dove
Under 10s are a shit show
past locust
like sheesh
drifting needle
the key is bricked then ?
It’s doable up until around 5/6 depending on setup. But a fresh pull can resolve
deep spruce
those people will see 350% increased dmg from shockwave and pre-cum
short plover
What % uptime of shield block can you have with into the fray? Currently running heavy repercussions but wanna up my damage
mortal topaz
When crafting the sword at 418... Do you use Fang Adornments?
warm plinth
What % uptime of shield block can you have with into the fray? Currently running...
You can run bolster with ItF and not lose uptime
short plover
Oh sick I didn’t even think of that
warm plinth
When crafting the sword at 418... Do you use Fang Adornments?
I probably wouldn't unless you think you'll keep it forever (e.g. you'll never have like lariat and belt at the same time)
short plover
You can run bolster with ItF and not lose uptime
Would I just drop something like tough as nails?
mortal topaz
@warm plinth I already have max Lariat, I seen a ton of prot warriors using the swordd.. I dont raid so yeah lol
cold pollen
sbg hotdix is nice but could they hotdix the visual as well
warm plinth
Would I just drop something like tough as nails?
yeah, or like pain and gain if you're running that
lucid pendant
is alch trinket real bad or is it passable
slim dove
When crafting the sword at 418... Do you use Fang Adornments?
i did. 1-2% overall for me.
lucid pendant
(haste)
cold pollen
dd keep dyong on the wall debuff 10 feet away
warm plinth
It's fine but I think most just don't feel it's worth the spark @lucid pendant
Because there are quite a few better trinkets
lucid pendant
assuming ive already used a spark on it, is it worth upgrading etc
mortal topaz
understood, so what would you get crafted? @warm plinth
warm plinth
Yeah if you have max lariat and don't raid...do you have a high ilevel shield already?
mortal topaz
418 ye
short plover
Glad I didn’t craft shield yet. Got 421 shield from AV in vault this week
mortal topaz
ayeee
warm plinth
that is quite a multicraft
lucid pendant
those are like 8g, no?
uncut zephyr
I nut when I multicraft 2 or 3 gems on JC
stable valve
weary python
Question, the raid build in the pins takes into the fray over heavy repercussions(M+ build likes heavy repercussions). I like heavy repercussions personally over into the fray. What haste % for raid is good enough to drop into the fray in a raid situation for heavy repercussions?
turbid shuttle
how do you look up in a wcl the fraction of hits that were blocked?
spare python
question how important is 4 set
lofty widget
how do you look up in a wcl the fraction of hits that were blocked?
damage taken>hover the number of melee hits (the 701 number)
weary python
question how important is 4 set
It's nice, but I don't think it's absolutely mandatory. At least I haven't needed it through Heroic raid and 18 keys.
turbid shuttle
damage taken>hover the number of melee hits (the 701 number)
amazing thanks
spare python
ty for info
silent anchor
sophic or frozen? whats being used? i cba changiong
chilly cradle
what you guys build with 3. spark i have neck and weapon with embalish ?
slim dove
shield if youve been cucked in vault
sick sentinel
bird boss AA suck
proud dock
if crit = vers, do we sim to figure out what to use on crafts?
sick sentinel
fury warrior probably ego over the moon now
proud dock
oki thanks, wat do the pros pick then? kekW
sick sentinel
i died to bird and died to vexamus at 4 million hp, and the "healer who was new to healer" kept him alive fine
last mason
how do i get artisan's mettle
i want someone to recraft my wep from 405-418
sick sentinel
soemthing goal of fire or something hit us 250ik, im not sure if thats swirl or we need to change to blue mechanic
uncut zephyr
The wind is substantially more aids than the fire on bird boss
uncut zephyr
you can get it from gathering too
toxic gyro
On bird boss you don’t drop first balls until 3-4 stacks of screech, then you drop fire ones, 3-4 stacks of screech again and you drop blue ones
uncut zephyr
any primary proffession
toxic gyro
Makes the fight way easier
uncut zephyr
if it's a personal order I think you can ask the crafter to use their mettle too
fading tide
On bird boss you don’t drop first balls until 3-4 stacks of screech, then you dr...
So 4 stacks of screech then fire portal then 4 stacks again and then air portal?
toxic gyro
3-4 yes, it does more dmg after each screech
urban bane
I think 4 stacks is good enough for 90sec CDs sent at start
toxic gyro
So all depends on key level and if it’s coordinated group
At some point people need to use defensives or will get one shot
sick sentinel
i do 3 stacks and stun during the cast of 4th screech
toxic gyro
My group did defensives on 4th and stun before 5th
last mason
is 35% fine for 418 proc or should i look for higher
toxic gyro
As I said all depends on group and key level
toxic gyro
is 35% fine for 418 proc or should i look for higher
I mean you can find someone higher or just send?
vagrant relic
Hey guys again, I know it's not M+ server but should Hirja in HoV start her fight with the pushing beam? It feels so wrong and happens so rare that I think it's bugged but is it tho? Thanks in advance
grizzled forge
Is there a minimum haste to be at before running heavy rep in keys over ITF
fading tide
Which week is considered harder for tanks the week with stronger adds or stronger boss?
vagrant relic
Which week is considered harder for tanks the week with stronger adds or stronge...
both really it's more about secondary affixes
acoustic edge
hi folks, new here. looking through pins i couldnt find anything but i'm sure this has been asked before. how do we evaluate which trinket is better? is there a ranking list? or do you sim this? but sim would be for damage right?
toxic gyro
whats an insight
35% is pretty good, I think guy that my weapon said he had 45%, but you never know if they’re lying or not.
warm plinth
hi folks, new here. looking through pins i couldnt find anything but i'm sure th...
Sim, yes. We don't really need defensive trinkets but decoration of flame and all-totem of the master are both good and do good damage as well
warm plinth
Which week is considered harder for tanks the week with stronger adds or stronge...
I'd agree that it's both, at least in this expansion. There's shitty trash and shitty bosses in a lot of dungeons for tanks.
acoustic edge
Sim, yes. We don't really need defensive trinkets but decoration of flame and a...
thanks!!
thin silo
Is there a minimum haste to be at before running heavy rep in keys over ITF
Heavy Rep is good at any haste level
grizzled forge
Ok I always thought in the past we wouldn’t run it till we got to a certain haste point
toxic gyro
Think it was ~35% haste when you swap to itf
strong forum
its actually the other way around, only with very high haste, ITF becomes better
playing battering ram also greatly reduces the "feel the need" for haste
grizzled forge
Oh gotcha so just keep running heavy rep? I’m at like base 25% haste I believe not home so can’t look atm
grizzled forge
Ok
fathom goblet
anyone good at reading logs ?
strong forum
depends on what you want
toxic pewter
is that potion of shocking disclosure actually worth using in m+? thoughts?
strong forum
its really good in aoe ye
strong forum
I want to know my mistakes
send it through maybe we can find something
jagged pier
scales on number of targets as well
noble moon
pumps on tree boss
toxic pewter
yah i use on tree boss
but I am actually thinking just using it all the time
on all kinds of crap
toxic gyro
I just use it on big pulls, hard pulls.
tired pivot
it really helps getting aggro on big spread pulls
sick sentinel
what kills me on bird boss i think whenever it casts deafening screech thats what got me
short elk
If my lariat has 1 socket, can I get a 1 star then a 2 star setting to get 3 sockets? Or so I need to get a 2 & 3?
hazy edge
2&3
ruby depot
Hello,
I had a small but important question.
I have 2 embelish (the lariat in 418 and the ring embelish potion)
I wonder what is the next craft to do? I saw that the weapon was used a lot but I have the weapon 415 hast/versa/leech.
The tips? The bleed? On which piece ?
tired pivot
craft what ever is your lowest ilvl
after embellishments, crafting only really covers your ilvl weaknesses and lets you upgrade stuff that is harder to upgrade
cinder storm
Hello,
I had a small but important question.
I have 2 embelish (the lariat in ...
You can only have two embellishments, food buff is the one that doesn't counts afaik
toxic pewter
ya food buff def doesnt count as embellishment
toxic pewter
Hello,
I had a small but important question.
I have 2 embelish (the lariat in ...
what ilvl is your shield
just had a disc priest melt down during azureblade... do disc priests not do well with movement or wat
solar sandal
how do i tank ruby life pools first boss
i am getting absolutely fucking annihilated
solar sandal
i am reflecting every single one it's up for
toxic pewter
spell block
solar sandal
and im running spell block
toxic pewter
also 2nd boss much harder imo
sturdy sable
Basic tank cool down rotation
solar sandal
but im just getting domed for 150-190k per shard every 2 seconds lol
solar sandal
and sometimes it overlaps with the chill storm
sturdy sable
Yeah it will
solar sandal
so i take 2 180k hits within 0.1s of each other
sturdy sable
Vic rush right after the shard
Gotta use your gamer Skillz
But in all honesty at some point its on the healer
solar sandal
yeah but i wanna make sure i get my bit down
im pumping all my rage into ignore pains
idk if it's even worth revenging for 2pc
feels like it's not
sturdy sable
Yeah you should still be casting revenge
last mason
if i have a really low ilvl slot, is it worse to craft a 405 and then recraft to 418 when i can rather than just waiting for the mats to craft a 418 version off the bat
ruby depot
what ilvl is your shield
402
stiff gate
i am getting absolutely fucking annihilated
Try to have a cooldown or spell reflect up for every chill storm, since the overlap between the AoE damage and her normal tank nuke is usually the scariest part. I usually spam IP as much as possible and use reflect when my IP is out to give me a second to get it back up. Impending when you start actually dropping hp. Don’t use anything during the shield phase, that’s the lowest damage intake part of the fight. Ask your healer for an external if spell block, shield wall, last stand, demo, and reflect are all on cd and your IP isn’t high.
ruby depot
Could be worth it to craft a shield
I was advised the belt
stiff gate
I did it on 21 this week and it was honestly scary as hell, not sure what to do on higher keys.
vale vessel
This is probably a dumb question but if I use IP while it's already up does it add to the old one? Or will it overwrite
stiff gate
It adds, up to a cap.
raven zealot
i assume i need a certain amount of haste to keep shield block 100% uptime without using heavy repercussions?
stiff gate
You should get a weakaura to track how much IP you have and whether it’s capped or not. Most of the time you just press IP anyway to prevent rage capping, but in some scenarios like first boss RLP it’s helpful to know how much absorb you have up to know if you need a cd or if you’re fine.
stiff gate
i assume i need a certain amount of haste to keep shield block 100% uptime witho...
You should functionally be able to keep 100% sb uptime with any 2 block talents (HR, Bolster, Enduring) and not that much haste. If there is a certain amount of haste needed it’s probably not higher than 15%.
solar sandal
yeah this was a 21
we did like a ton of pulls and either i'd die or one of the dps would
raven zealot
You should functionally be able to keep 100% sb uptime with any 2 block talents ...
okay thanks, i think i'll just play HR since this is a fresh alt and it seems easier while im still learning the class
slim dove
yeah this was a 21
rlp is especially rough lul
solar sandal
the first 2 bosses of rlp feel drastically harder than like any other bosses from any other dungeons
slim dove
they absolutely are
timid beacon
is there a way to send a recraft to off server players. Been struggling to find someone that can make the 405 Shield on my server
slim dove
recraft/craft orders are cross-faction but realm specific.
solar sandal
if you're looking for a recraft, someone's gonna charge you anyway if it's not the original crafter
may as well just shout til you get one
quartz brook
Yo, what flask is the best for M+ for prot warr?
slim dove
eye of the storm iirc
slim dove
i guess eye is kinda shit for bosses though
sick sentinel
im using eye
slim dove
ive been running vers this week just to help survive lol
solar sandal
same with temple 2nd boss for me actually
im....not sure i understand the fight
like
i dont even know what question to ask really i just take infinty damage the entire time
solar sandal
i thought we give that to them later on
or do we just let them have it at the start and they just hold it?
isnt the dot like crazy from it?
cinder storm
Nah
solar sandal
oh
cinder storm
Plus they heal so much with it they don't care
solar sandal
do you just give it to them at the start and leave them alone?
cinder storm
My disc was casually pumping 90khps not even trying
solar sandal
and is 7 still the swap? or do people max one out now sometimes?
i feel like im just getting assblasted and idk what to even cooldown lol
no time seems any better than any other time
cinder storm
6 safer, but once healer has high stacks, that fight is then a joke
solar sandal
ok
cinder storm
You don't even have to try and immune the boss, healer can out heal all the damage
solar sandal
that dungeon's just a full on healer check then huh
seems like boss 2-4 are all on them
tired pivot
it really is the most intensive on the healer
tbf, most dungeons are rn
the ones that aren't are the "free" ones
cinder storm
2,3,4 jade strike is healer reliant
tropic tangle
2nd, 3rd, 4th prob
solar sandal
or just the bosses
cinder storm
Bosses
solar sandal
right yeah
jade strike i kinda got down after asking for help in here
but it's still hella sus sometimes
analog hollow
sophic devo or frozen devo?
earnest nymph
how do you survive 2nd boss RLP when searing blows comes out at the same time the add dot is happening?
earnest nymph
like I have defensives for the first two
but then it's just like I'm supposed to pray or?
tired pivot
holy priest is not very good at healing jade strike
cinder storm
Yes
frosty mango
how do you survive 2nd boss RLP when searing blows comes out at the same time th...
The healer needs to defensive you as well
raven zealot
just have an evoker
tired pivot
they are probably the worst healer for it
earnest nymph
we did that too @frosty mango
cinder storm
Disc
earnest nymph
eventually runs otu
frosty mango
You're not living alone above like a 17
earnest nymph
yeah I did spellblock on 1st, wall on 2nd, bark on 3rd
cinder storm
Holy is slightly better than disc there
earnest nymph
after that I just died
tropic tangle
yeah I did spellblock on 1st, wall on 2nd, bark on 3rd
spell block doesn't work on searing?
solar sandal
is that 2nd boss tank buster physical?
frosty mango
I tanked it on 18 last night and I used reflect + spell block + wall then rotated wall with healer cd
Make sure you save IV for that too
tired pivot
wdym, disc has pain suppress and peanance+powerw word shield
tired pivot
disc should be better at that than holy
tropic tangle
imo, ruby is a good spot for running 2 charges of wall
cinder storm
Pain sup did nothing on a 17
tropic tangle
on tyran
frosty mango
spell block doesn't work on searing?
It works on the elemental shit which usually gets you
solar sandal
bro...
tired pivot
it was enough on a 20
solar sandal
i totally forgot 2 charges of wall was even an option
tired pivot
just that and his healing covered an entire jade strike
solar sandal
that...might actually just be the play
tired pivot
your disc healer was probably not very good
tropic tangle
wall, def stance + demo, wall, def stance + external, prayge
solar sandal
lol
earnest nymph
good point, prob BSV too
solar sandal
feelsbad
earnest nymph
@tropic tangle
solar sandal
im like fully in defensive stance for these 20+ rlps
cinder storm
I was looking at hp not go up for like 4-5 s after jade strike, I'm inclined to agree
frosty mango
Rlp is basically free other than that boss
solar sandal
i need every bit of mitigation i can fuckin get in there
languid light
Make sure you save IV for that too
What is IV?
sweet summit
your disc healer was probably not very good
idk if you're aware but disc kinda fucking sucks atm
tired pivot
disc has been doing very well on that boss for me, they can outheal it and their damage really adds up to skip a jade strike
cinder storm
All three bosses are hard if even one person misplays in rlp
frosty mango
What is IV?
Impending victory
languid light
Ty
tired pivot
rlp is as cursed as AV on tyrannical
cinder storm
My disc has no tier so that could be a big difference too
tired pivot
the two dungeons that I can only complete with at least 3 premades
cinder storm
I rotated IV, shield, pots, nada
frosty mango
Disc has a high skill floor
tired pivot
my disc is one of the best in the world
median tulip
RLP has the usual thing for a 3 boss dungeon on Tyr
frosty mango
Most discs will be garbage but when you find a good one they're basically little heal gods
tired pivot
they are not very popular so it is not the hardest thing to achieve
cinder storm
There's like 150 discs so yeah, not to hard to be the best one
median tulip
3 boss dungeon = base harder bosses = nightmare on Tyr
tired pivot
but man, disc really has some nasty damage with their good hps
the upcoming buffs will actually make them cracked
frosty mango
Honestly the changes to smbg dot zone damage is hilarious
median tulip
I tried to play Disc on my Priest, and I just cannot get my head around it
frosty mango
So many people dying now
earnest nymph
Honestly the changes to smbg dot zone damage is hilarious
dude they buffed the FUCK out of it
median tulip
So I have pretty high respect for anyone who is good at it
earnest nymph
the dot is a one shot to dps now
frosty mango
I failed a 19 smbg earlier going into the last boss with 13 minutes
tired pivot
he tried to explain some stuff to me and it was so much that I just told him to stop
it is crazy
cinder storm
Disc sucks in a way people who main them love them, but they have to do so much to try and be on equal footing with "tee hee zephyr living flames go boom" evoker
frosty mango
Disc can be extremely good
median tulip
Disc is definitely healing on hard mode
frosty mango
Especially at high keys with their damage output and preemptive shielding stack but the person playing it has to be good
median tulip
Also if someone else in the party fucks up it's much harder for Disc to recover, AFAICT
tropic tangle
the dot is a one shot to dps now
the last boss AOE thing?
earnest nymph
the last boss AOE thing?
no the dot you get from touching the effect behind the wall
frosty mango
A shitty holy priest can strugglebus it through a shitty disc priest is just gonna fail relentlessly
tropic tangle
ohhh
earnest nymph
it used to do nothing and now it murders you
toxic pewter
really not liking the following bosses:
Kokia
Hyrja
Crawth
median tulip
Hyrja is not hard
toxic pewter
something always seems to go wrong
cinder storm
Crawth is worse than hyrja
earnest nymph
I can't stand the worm boss
toxic pewter
but I agree hyrja is easiest on that list
tired pivot
hyrja is really not that bad when you get her down yeah
median tulip
She has zero tank mechanics lol
She does have that yeeting tankbuster
tired pivot
I always laugh when someone shows me a clip of me getting yeeted across the room
cinder storm
Unless you have three melees who don't avoid sanctify
toxic pewter
oh lightning right
median tulip
Light side is a joke; nobody should take any damage from it
toxic pewter
yet someone always does
frosty mango
I always have some melee tell me they're a galaxy brain and they can dps during sanctify
They almost always die
cinder storm
You can
frosty mango
When I play it as fury I never die, it's the same pattern over and over
median tulip
You can DPS during it; her hit box is MASSIVE
toxic pewter
Crawth is actually no joke
it keeps bugging out also
crawth puts out a shitload of damage
median tulip
Crawth is nasty on higher keys, sure
cinder storm
They should make searing blows a frontal
I'd rather 100% kill one dps than die over that 300 yds melee bleed
fathom robin
Anyone have suggestions for professions as a prot war?
cinder storm
Not really but if you only care about gold you could just go gathering professions
tropic tangle
I went alch for flask time
serene coral
could go mining/bs/alch for cos
heady jetty
Still if it's an ilvl upgrade and the versa ain't bad i suppose?
sturdy sable
Yeah
foggy ruin
any tips for tanking searing blows from 2nd boss ruby life pools? im rly struggling living on that fight
sturdy sable
But its not the vers your using it for
sturdy sable
Still if it's an ilvl upgrade and the versa ain't bad i suppose?
Vers isnt the "tank stat" just because it gives dr
Btw
heady jetty
nah it gives +% dmg aswell i suppose
heady jetty
any tips for tanking searing blows from 2nd boss ruby life pools? im rly struggl...
Kite 🙂 - Plenty of room and clears out the fire aswell
cinder storm
You can't kite searing blows
foggy ruin
Kite 🙂 - Plenty of room and clears out the fire aswell
oh u can kite the tank hit?
sturdy sable
nah it gives +% dmg aswell i suppose
Im saying its not better then any other stat for tanks just because it gives dr
cinder storm
Unless you hearth
heady jetty
Oh okay xD
sturdy sable
Unless you hearth
This is the real play
earnest rover
I rotated IV, shield, pots, nada
Hey, what is IV ?
cinder storm
Impending victory
sturdy sable
Impending vuctory
lone eagle
earnest rover
Ty all !
heady jetty
Im saying its not better then any other stat for tanks just because it gives dr
Right, makes sense. Did end up giving it to a dps in the end
brisk gust
Why is people playing Titanic Throw over Fear? Feels like Fear talent u can get value out of in every dung
void marten
did anyone do algethar at 20 or higher after the hotfix?
how are you handling savage peck
brisk gust
While Titanic feels pretty useless
sturdy sable
Right, makes sense. Did end up giving it to a dps in the end
You can always sim upgrades for dps
Especially trinkets. Not many are worth using for its defensive capabilities rn
warm plinth
Why is people playing Titanic Throw over Fear? Feels like Fear talent u can get ...
Probably people not playing properly and having threat issues so they take it as a crutch
sturdy sable
And honestly if the eggnog trinket dropped later in the raid i doubt ppl would use it
cinder storm
did anyone do algethar at 20 or higher after the hotfix?
Evoker can clear bleeds and use time dilatation when it's on cd
void marten
so cauterize>shield wall>td>cauterize>last stand and pray>td and so on?
cinder storm
Other than rotating CDs and dstance
I'm inclined to bring defenders aegis just for crawth
void marten
bsv vs enduring alacrity, do you think 5% armor would be more useful than bsv handling 1 peck alone?
rotund dew
how good is the ring of the first boss with the fire trait as prot warri? i just got it with 408
cinder storm
Bleed goes through armor
void marten
yeah thats true
lean zephyr
did anyone do algethar at 20 or higher after the hotfix?
didn’t feel that bad at 20
cinder storm
the signet of diurna
With crafted belt
void marten
how good is the ring of the first boss with the fire trait as prot warri? i just...
if you get unstable frostfire belt to proc it, it's free damage
foggy ruin
While Titanic feels pretty useless
i find its rly great in double/triple pulls so u dont have to spend forever grabbing aggro
tired pivot
Vers isnt the "tank stat" just because it gives dr
that is exactly what makes it the best tank stat tho
lean zephyr
think the scariest part was when it’s a 3/4 stack screech into the peck, and that’s when I used wall or IP spammed
tired pivot
it applies to everything
sturdy sable
that is exactly what makes it the best tank stat tho
Vers is a trap
void marten
think the scariest part was when it’s a 3/4 stack screech into the peck, and tha...
did you take any niche talents or was normal rotation+cds enough?
tired pivot
that is what nobody from high keys will tell you
void marten
and what are your stats? i think i might have quite low versa
cinder storm
Where my haste crit gang bois
void marten
i did +21 rlp yesterday, it felt like hell at bosses
slim dove
tired pivot
and bleeds are what is destroying us the most right now
it is most popular among best players for a reason
lean zephyr
did you take any niche talents or was normal rotation+cds enough?
it was my first time doing it since the hot fix so I played safe and took double shield wall + burgeoning pod trinket. I didn’t CD the first two pecks. But then I did Wall,Last Stand ,Wall ,Seed + Demo and then called for a defensive
strong forum
can i even proc it?
with the frostfire belt and a couple trinkets
cinder storm
While it's situational, cobalt tank ring might offset a bit of dmg taken
foggy ruin
While it's situational, cobalt tank ring might offset a bit of dmg taken
cobalt ring always like my 3rd highest healing, kinda goated
cinder storm
Funny how that rings absorbs more than notgud scale
sturdy sable
The damage one also does a truck load
strong forum
Funny how that rings absorbs more than notgud scale
cuz it has twice the proc rate
notgud scale is 1ppm
ring is 2ppm
void marten
it was my first time doing it since the hot fix so I played safe and took double...
i see
feral musk
Anyone got a m+ only debuff tracker? Can't really find anything that only show debuffs on myself
void marten
it sounds manageable since i will have an evoker healer as well
i'll definitely try to get more versa tho
rotund dew
with the frostfire belt and a couple trinkets
Ive also got the trinked from the first boss. So I would have two sources of fire dmg. Does the proc deal good dmg?
strong forum
on average dmg taken on that boss increased by 33% for us
rotund dew
I mean its free so every dmg it deals is good
void marten
my stats right now
strong forum
Ive also got the trinked from the first boss. So I would have two sources of fir...
the ring does ~600-900dps for us if you have the belt
lean zephyr
ya I played with a resto druid and it felt fine, vexamus is still the harder boss imo
lean zephyr
my stats right now
my stats are pretty similar, and ofc I took verse in that key
wanton jewel
do yall find yourself running sidearm or barbarian training? i like the extra revenge dmg but it makes it harder to keep tier effect up every 4s
strong forum
sidearm at all times
slim dove
^
strong forum
barbaric training will leave you rage starved
wanton jewel
cool cool
foggy ruin
sidearm at all times
almost would never reccomend barbaric training
strong forum
BT is literally anti-synergistic with prot
lean zephyr
it was a 21, but we wiped a full time on vex and lost a dps with no brez half way through on the second time so we mistimed it by a minute or two. but we one shot birdy, tree, and dragon
strong forum
will lower your tierset uptime, will lower your rage gen and will leave you rage starved
foggy ruin
its not even good as a dps increase cuz its too much rage for too little increase
strong forum
technically it is a tiny dps increase, but a very inefficient one
lament zealot
Are we haste > mastery now or haste > verse, I see a lot of high IO warriors stacking mastery second
wanton jewel
thank you! switching my talents around now haha
strong forum
do they stack it or does their highest ilvl just have mastery on it.
and also, do they stack it for prot or are they dps main in raid and just have mastery gear for fury
😉
subtle owl
Yoyo, i have my trinkets. Which one whould you guys runs ?
All Totem of the Master 395
Decoration of Flame 405
Granyth Enduring Scale 395
foggy ruin
murlokio still says mastery is the lowest stat among top prot wars
strong forum
all totem + flame
lament zealot
na no one fromt he discord just randos
You are probably right though, could be fury mains
solar sandal
my stats right now
is that without "into the fray"?
lean zephyr
is that without "into the fray"?
probably with HR
solar sandal
that's an insane amount of haste lmao
lean zephyr
ITF he would either be in the 30s or like insanely low haste without it proccing lol
solar sandal
my haste is dog shit =/
strong forum
happens
solar sandal
im 405 and without ITF im at like 16%
steel mauve
ya im at like 387 with 23% haste, and all my stats are pretty well balanced except im really crit heavy
solar sandal
i have 1k more crit rating than i have haste rating =/
strong forum
happens
slim dove
just luck of drops
steel mauve
actually i lied not really balanced, vers and haste are close and crit is farther ahead with almost no mastery
slim dove
i have waaay more verse then i want but ilvl > all
solar sandal
right
i hit fuckin HARD tho
🤣
i need defensive trinkets
been pushing with just full dps trinkets so far but it's def a noticeable problem now
slim dove
well their isn't any
solar sandal
i'd settle for flame trinket off first boss of raid
slim dove
so keep pumping that whetstone/grieftorch
solar sandal
that thing's...pretty good lol
slim dove
faster things die, less times you need to survive mechs
solar sandal
yeah im literally tryin to do 20 rlp with whetstone/grieftorch or like one of those and boon on fort weeks
slim dove
lean zephyr
just get grieftorch, hit your melee with cleaves in HOV with cleaves, guzzle and repeat
😤
solar sandal
i do that any time they got something clever to say
slim dove
just get grieftorch, hit your melee with cleaves in HOV with cleaves, guzzle and...
the 2 mdps i play with both have torch
jagged pier
standing in hew
foggy ruin
just get grieftorch, hit your melee with cleaves in HOV with cleaves, guzzle and...
link meters when they complain
jagged pier
all the fucking time
slim dove
they beg me to kill people in keys so it resets
jagged pier
while i just backpeddle out of it
solar sandal
our other tank decided to take mythic trinket off eranog when he already had heroic
lean zephyr
spam pressing backpeddle key dodging every breach/claw, we are kind of mechanical gods
solar sandal
so im out here just doin dps instead lol
strong forum
that trinket is better for dps than for survival anyway
solar sandal
the shield is better than no shield i'd think?
solar sandal
i have a nokhud thing but that feels kinda shit
and when i get real desperate i use the tanking cobalt ring
which is....surprisingly kinda okay?
jagged pier
that trinket is better for dps than for survival anyway
THIS
strong forum
its a 80-100k absorb on a 2min CD
jagged pier
ppl that hold it are dumb
strong forum
its a dps trinket with a tiny absorb
jagged pier
its does like 1.5k dps
lean zephyr
the shield honestly just blows up so quick in a large pack
strong forum
its not a tank trinket
solar sandal
random shields is kinda sad
what are our best options for just tryin to fuckin live? lol
slim dove
what are our best options for just tryin to fuckin live? lol
whetstone so things die faster
strong forum
ill never use it, but i have it
solar sandal
ok then im done
strong forum
your best trinkets are dps trinkets
solar sandal
i have like every dps trinket in the game
slim dove
also grieftorch
strong forum
there are no good "tank" trinkets
slim dove
icon is good if dps/healer have one
solar sandal
im lookin for the new blood spattered scale
slim dove
its cracked if they both have it
solar sandal
idk
strong forum
blood splattered scale wasnt even good
and now you only have worse options
so like, just dont bother with "tank" trinkets
foggy ruin
stat sticks ftw
solar sandal
fair
strong forum
nah on use trinkets it is this patch
jagged pier
and that is sadge
strong forum
whetstone, boon, grieftorch
jagged pier
no one likes double on use
strong forum
im perma running double on use
solar sandal
i mean i have grieftorch, whetstone, boon, and puzzle box
strong forum
ya then youre golden
solar sandal
so it's just been some mix and match of that
jagged pier
i wish i had 2 trinkets that were good
strong forum
just run grieftorch + whetstone, and boon in big pad dungeons
jagged pier
lean zephyr
👀 trinket god tf
strong forum
like AA and notgud
deep spruce
I have 421 Incarnate - what should I be aiming for to go with that?
solar sandal
yeah my raid disqualified me from getting anything
strong forum
the 3 i just named
solar sandal
b/c i got m+ trinkets <.<
strong forum
incarnate is only good for raid
rubbish in m+ unless you have DPS and Healer with it aswell
tulip kelp
how about totem?
strong forum
totem is also really really good
solar sandal
totem?
strong forum
outside of like azure vault
solar sandal
oh the counter one?
deep spruce
oh the counter one?
ye
tulip kelp
I been using 408 totem over 398 grieftorch, not sure if right call
solar sandal
oh yeah i saw people using it but never got one to test
strong forum
totem is bad on bosses but really good in aoe
solar sandal
i tried rumbling ruby and...it's kinda shit
idk what the hype around it is all about
strong forum
ruby is solid af
solar sandal
yeah i dont se it
strong forum
not amazing but solid for aoe
solar sandal
it takes like 2 minutes to build enough stacks
at which point i'd rather just hit whetstone
fallen pulsar
do you guys use uproar in raid? I feel like it ends up desyncing roar from being up ever other avatar + demo without necessarily lining up with every avatar + demo
solar sandal
yeah fair
pseudo garden
Off topic but does anyone whose good at PC building want to tell me if what I picked out is good? And not just tell me to build my own lol
solar sandal
i just use both upgrades to roar b/c idk any better
tulip kelp
Do you guys know if I'm fury but have prot spec selected can I roll main spec on prot gear in raid? Like eranog trinket
strong forum
yes
tulip kelp
Ok cool
strong forum
if you set lootspec to whatever you want to loot as, you can roll on that stuff
sick sentinel
Any prot warr addons that would be helpful for like keys and raid
lean zephyr
track SB/IP and you’re good p much
solar sandal
i'm using the Nao dungeon packs stuff
foggy ruin
Any prot warr addons that would be helpful for like keys and raid
big fan of the luxthos ip tracker
solar sandal
shit is pretty good
it's a lot of stuff tho
i just like hearing it yell "BLAM" whenever someone uses an external on me
sick sentinel
Sorry I'm pretty dumb, what does an IP tracker do? I thought IP was internet protocol and not a wow thingy
solar sandal
depends on the key
strong forum
depends on key and gear
royal reef
I saw prots doing 40k
strong forum
i hover around 50-60k in my keys
solar sandal
nok numbers are significantly higher than not nok lol
foggy ruin
Sorry I'm pretty dumb, what does an IP tracker do? I thought IP was internet pro...
ignore pain
tulip kelp
I have 402 ilvl and average between 30 - 60 depending on the key
royal reef
i hover around 50-60k in my keys
Thats pretty good
tulip kelp
i hover around 50-60k in my keys
Even in things like COS, AV, RLP?
solar sandal
nah you wont hit 50-60k in those probably
royal reef
Is there a way to unserstand a good prot war and bad one
solar sandal
unless you're like
strong forum
in cos my dmg was like 53k
solar sandal
suicidal pulling
royal reef
In first look
quaint folio
Does anyone have advice on how to do flameheart in Temple ? I can't survive the jade serpent strike. even with shield wall up and a half filled IP I get dropped to 80% on the initial hit, then killed by the dot
solar sandal
oh cos maybe
tulip kelp
Damn how you juice so high lol
strong forum
i press shield slam very gud
cosmic peak
hello all, I have a question, when tanking Flameheart in TJS, I get almost 1 shot from Jade Serpent Strike while using reflect. any suggestions?
solar sandal
Does anyone have advice on how to do flameheart in Temple ? I can't survive the ...
you roll the dice on your healer
and hope they know what they're doing
lean zephyr
Does anyone have advice on how to do flameheart in Temple ? I can't survive the ...
help your healer by using health pots, impending and then pray for god
solar sandal
if they'r ehealing your party at that time you're dead
oak echo
Does anyone have advice on how to do flameheart in Temple ? I can't survive the ...
IV every other and make sure your healer is actually trying to heal through the absorb
royal reef
Chad healer=chad tank= better dps gameplay
solar sandal
someone gave me like an actual rotation that helped
foggy ruin
Does anyone have advice on how to do flameheart in Temple ? I can't survive the ...
take the double shield wall talent, and leverage spell reflects 20% magic dr and spell block
solar sandal
spell reflect + IV for first and 3rd
some mix of wall/rally/healer cd for 2nd and 4th
and like healthpots/lockrocks
solar sandal
AV is like...
royal reef
Or extra 5 minute
solar sandal
not really that bad i dont feel
idk
i get it's notoriously one of the worst
but if we get a nerf
royal reef
Its legit impossible to time 20 key imo
lean zephyr
av and HoV timer is pretty tight ngl
foggy ruin
bro im like double/tripling every pull on av to barely time
solar sandal
just fucking rlp is unbearable
pseudo garden
Rlp isn't that bad
royal reef
Long boss fights
lusty grotto
RLP is not tight at all
pseudo garden
I've only done 17s tho
lusty grotto
AV is tight yes
foggy ruin
av is bad on timer, rlp is just try not to wipe!!!
royal reef
Hov and av worse
solar sandal
av is like
royal reef
I did +20 av
solar sandal
no real risk of dying?
tulip kelp
I feel like RLP is just whether your healer can handle group damage or not
solar sandal
i dont feel like anything hurts me as the tank
and most damage is avoidable
for the dps/healer
royal reef
Yeah sure
lusty grotto
you dont really need to pull big on RLP
royal reef
Telash
lusty grotto
you can taken your time
solar sandal
so like you pull aggressive
royal reef
Oneshots
royal reef
Telash oneshots
solar sandal
the tank?
royal reef
Dps
foggy ruin
im getting owned by searing blows on rlp tho
solar sandal
with the frost bomb?
royal reef
Its oneshot
lean zephyr
every boss hurts me in rlp this week
royal reef
The skill inside shield
lusty grotto
im getting owned by searing blows on rlp tho
so bring the parry game up, an evoker and/or be dwarf and play double wall for it
royal reef
Frost stuff
royal reef
I didnt got oneshot but i saw healers got oneshot
solar sandal
that's on the list for later
lean zephyr
in 21 rlp the dot + winds overlap can and will probably just one shot a dps sometimes lol
solar sandal
i mean
frosty mango
Like y'all you gotta press your buttons
solar sandal
have defensives is pretty loose meaning
frosty mango
Dps are gonna die if they dont
solar sandal
when you bring hunters and shamans
frosty mango
Hunters have defensives
royal reef
Bro
frosty mango
3 of them
royal reef
I played havoc on that run
Blur is one of the strongest defensives
And i went from max HP to 30k
frosty mango
"dps getting oneshot by unavoidable mechanic" is 100% of the time a byproduct of improper play
solar sandal
^
royal reef
Not in av
solar sandal
im also kind of this belief
but i havent played dps in a while
so i cant say
i also only played rogue dps so like...
how die?
royal reef
Not in high keys When your gear not giga high
solar sandal
ok i mean
frosty mango
Unless they're severely undergeared there's no unavoidable mech that will oneshot. If you're getting oneshot either you didn't press defensives or you didn't do mechanics correctly
solar sandal
you should be properly geared for the appropriate keys
frosty mango
There's nothing in a 20 that will oneshot you at 395 let alone 400+
royal reef
I went from 300k to 30k
solar sandal
we're running the 20 vault later tonight
royal reef
Blur on
solar sandal
so i'll see what happens to our guys i guess
royal reef
300k to 30k
warm plinth
from what
solar sandal
i dont feel like being in the shield hits you that hard
something about this just feels off
frosty mango
If you went from 300k to 30k you weren't in th shield
warm plinth
from what did you go 300k to 30k
royal reef
Telash
warm plinth
What mechanic dude
frosty mango
I literally did it a few hours ago on a 19 and no one went to 10% health ever
solar sandal
im watching a vid of tattman's group doing 20 av on tyran
everyone gets topped in bubble
hit goes out
drops everyone to 25-30
so if you're down to like 20k hp or some shit
something else is going on there
lean zephyr
ya that one isn’t so bad
solar sandal
like you probably are seeing people drop that low
but that single boss ability is probably not the cause
frosty mango
The only oneshot mech I've seen so far is nokhud with the static spear oneshotting but that's a double hit and I'm 99% it's a bug
From the last boss
solar sandal
i havent seen that one yet
i leap halfway through the pull
not tryna be part of that at all
frosty mango
Sometimes the spear goes out and the target gets hot twice
lean zephyr
in 20 nok it one shot our monk that didn’t have karma up lol
vague badge
Do you guys switch stances a lot inside a high key?
frosty mango
Like it literally just does damage twice
frosty mango
Do you guys switch stances a lot inside a high key?
I do, generally will use d stance like a cooldown
warm plinth
Well, the shield is 50% reduction. On 20 tyrannical, it's 531,102 unmitigated. So shield would mitigate it to 265,551. So you shouldn't even drop from 300 to 30k if you did nothing.
frosty mango
On fort weeks in 19ish+ if I'm tanking certain places I will stay in d stance
chilly brook
Do you guys switch stances a lot inside a high key?
You can, but I’d generally just use it for large hits
solar sandal
Do you guys switch stances a lot inside a high key?
when i'm pretty sure i'll die without it, i'll turn d stance on for whatever i think will kill me. otherwise i'm in battlestance
warm plinth
I'm guessing you were not topped
frosty mango
Av 18+ trash before second boss on fort I stay in d stance
If one of those piercing shits gets off papa no likey
lean zephyr
just stun them lol
frosty mango
if you stun them
lusty grotto
you can fear them
solar sandal
i pull first room of av with crystal bros with b stanc
lusty grotto
if DR is up
solar sandal
it's pretty w/e
lean zephyr
even if it’s just you, you have shockwave stormbolt and shout
lean zephyr
intimidating
solar sandal
oh
frosty mango
Fear breaks it