protection

[strong forum]

eh

[weary python]

What do we drop in our raid spec for disrupting shout on dathea?

[strong forum]

ive spent over 50hrs on beta alone

just slamming dummy

figuring out talents and such

[sand pebble]

I lose interest after 10 mins lol

[strong forum]

to learn a spec on retail, slamming dummy for 2-4hrs is infinitely more valuable than just blindly going in

[mystic fog]

dayum 70!

[strong forum]

and randomly pressing buttons

[fierce geyser]

I’ll definitely take that advice. Thanks Nomeratur!

[sleek gulch]

imo put your instant cast spells on your mouse (IP and SB) and it might help your CPM slightly

instant cast = ogcds

[sand pebble]

Im noticing the difference in m+ with warmachine though, that extea rage im not expecting and i cap rage all the time

[sleek gulch]

pref obviously but in my head it makes sense it would slightly improve apm

[true hound]

You're like me. I go in spamming dummy for 10 min to see where buttons are.

Then I got to instance.

And hit the buttons I just found

Sometimes I get it right. But most of the time not.

But that's OK, because eventually I will have gotten boosted though all keys

[true hound]

So read a couple of guides. Understand their priority spell list, and why they prioritise them. Then you go to dundum

[oak ivy]

had to yeet my wtf file because it was fisting my ping for whatever reason, i would like to buy one "hold shift, cast ravager at my feet. not holding shift, cast it at cursor" macro pls bc i do not recall how that system works

[warm plinth]

#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift,@player]Ravager;[@cursor]Ravager```

@oak ivy

[oak ivy]

ty

[warm plinth]

Oh fuck you discord

[oak ivy]

xD

[royal rune]

is there a guide to what mats to use to craft the primal molten longsword?

[tender cove]

The mod shift doesnt work for me, but it can cast at cursor 😒

[warm plinth]

Do you have shift+whatever that button is bound to something else?

That's usually the only reason that kind of thing wouldn't work

[tender cove]

I have shift scrollwheeldown for tauren ability. Och den ravagaer on scrollwheeldown

so added that macro and when i try holding shift and scrollwheeldown, nothing happens.

[warm plinth]

Added that macro where

To shift+scrollwheeldown?

[tender cove]

on the same keybind as scrollwheeldown

[warm plinth]

So you removed the tauren ability right

[tender cove]

noo, i have confused myself. ITs scroll UP and DOWN

tauren is on UP. Ravager is on DOWN

[warm plinth]

so shift+scrollwheelup for tauren, and then ravager on down

And you replaced Ravager with the macro

[tender cove]

nah, i just took your macro above and put it on the previus ravagar icon

it works if i use it without shift, it casts at mouse

but not at me when i hold sshift

[warm plinth]

That's very weird. It works fine for me. I feel like you have to have something on shift+scrollwheeldown already. Like bound somewhere else.

[tender cove]

hmm

not on my bars but i can check keybinds

[warm plinth]

check these too, under the combat section

see if shift is there

[tender cove]

Nah, it looks like yours. But i do saw i have shift bounded from Both up and down they''re not placed on my hotbars but guessing the saved keybind is whats messing it up?

[warm plinth]

yep

that would do it

Just unbind those and you should be good to go

[tender cove]

okok, ty bro ❤️

[warm plinth]

np

[tender cove]

works fine now

[acoustic tinsel]

Why would you need a guide on the mats?

[royal rune]

trying to figure out which mats

but i found it

with search

the fang and missive of the aurora

what enchant should i put on it?

[visual moat]

hi there, is there any way to set it so that if my current target is out of range and i press shield slam it will target the closest enemy in range of me?

[warm plinth]

That's what action targeting does

[lyric geode]

Is spitestorm good?

[royal rune]

frozen devotion or wafting devotion for the enchant weap boys

[lyric geode]

sophic

[visual moat]

i decided to search for it to see if anyone had any experience with it here

[warm plinth]

I've used it. The only issue I have with it is trying to get used to not automatically hitting tab

Because it disables it for that pull

[royal rune]

thank you

[visual moat]

oh that's a bit monka

ill try it out but ill probs just stick to tabbing

[tender cove]

What does it actually do?

[warm plinth]

auto-targets whatever you're pointing at, prioritizing the closest one

[tender cove]

hmm

[gilded glacier]

is there a specific cobalt ring I should be buying?

[hardy ridge]

Can buy em all but wear only one

[slim dove]

what % should you be phasing heroic broodkeeper

[chrome grove]

Depends on the group, my guild group phases at 5% because our damage is high and we have a high average ilvl

[slim dove]

right so my pug phasing her at 60% is doomed

[chrome grove]

But pugs or lower geared groups probably shoot for 20-35%

[slim dove]

ty

[chrome grove]

Oh yeah, 60 is cursed

[devout haven]

What M+ items have you guys been prioritizing for using your valor on?

[lyric geode]

Lol

Resto shaman did 20k in dungeon

[urban portal]

trinkets and shields are recommended

trinkets are really cheap and powerful

shields are shield

weapons are the worst thing to upgrade due to how expensive they are

[lyric geode]

This bad boy had taken me to 17 keys

Respect for the shield

[sand pebble]

no respect for that

[warm plinth]

shields are even cheaper to upgrade than trinkets too

Only 250

[lyric geode]

I know

BUT

[warm plinth]

I was responding to Irrelevant's post

Not yours

[lyric geode]

BUT if next week's vault drops shield

[devout haven]

xD

[lyric geode]

I will probably farm some CoS for trinket

[sand pebble]

respect for this shield imo

[lyric geode]

Why is it only 398? I would upgrade it to 415 to be fair

[sand pebble]

no valor

[lyric geode]

fair

Also, do you bother farm azure vault?

[sand pebble]

398 is fine for the 13-15 keys im struggling to find decent dps to time lmao

[lyric geode]

We could go for the shield of the hearth

Farm a few 16s for primal

[sand pebble]

nah lariet/belt and weap i spent sparks on

[lyric geode]

and go straight to 418

Did you get ring from eranog?

[sand pebble]

not yet but thats the plan

[lyric geode]

Kewk

[sand pebble]

i had fang on weap and it felt like trash. belt is more damage

[slim dove]

hearth is doodoo make primal molten.

[round pendant]

I have crafted weapon and shield and lariat

Was worth since I haven't had a single good weapon/shield drop

[lyric geode]

as good as it can get

[round pendant]

Wonder if it's worth spamming AA to get that

[lyric geode]

I feel is better

[steady steppe]

Isn't crafted shield with spikes better?

[sand pebble]

it might be but raid ring/ procs from belt and neck is my overall plan so i made it early, im not worried about the .5% difference in power

[lyric geode]

You know that there is a possibility you wont get the ring ever?

[sand pebble]

sure, belt still does damage

leaves a cool blue puddle on ground

[wooden widget]

Searing blows. Fire cow RLP. Spell block?

[lyric geode]

Shield wall and capped IP

plus block

[wooden widget]

Do I need to run double charges

[lyric geode]

Probably, but still

[wooden widget]

You mean plus spell block?

[lyric geode]

You could definetely run Spell Block due to the first boss magic damage

[weary python]

99% healing parse w/ 0 wasted rage on first heroic grimtotem kill :0

super pumped

[lyric geode]

I believe searing blow is physical mitigated so. Shield block

[wooden widget]

But it doesn’t help with the dot from searing?

Ah

[warm plinth]

No, it's a bleed

[warm plinth]

The initial hit is regular blockable

But the dot is a bleed

[lyric geode]

So, no. No need to spell block up

[wooden widget]

It was turbo chunking me

[lyric geode]

It only depends on key. What key you run?

Below 15 I wouldnt bother with double shield wall

Also with spell block

[wooden widget]

14

First time tyrannical RLP

I got through it by the skin of my teeth

I just didn’t have spell block for first boss. And was hoping it also helped for searing.

I mostly just ignored pain, impending v myself. Shield wall one cast. Health pot another.

4 or 5 casts tho before boss was dead our hunter kept floor POV so boss was alive a while I think

[scenic stratus]

do prot warriors ever use slam or whirlwind

[wooden widget]

We do not

[scenic stratus]

thanks

[wooden widget]

Np

[pastel sleet]

should i take first tier piece out of vault or take a granyth's enduring scale?

[lyric geode]

Tier piece

[unborn sable]

how are people tanking 2nd boss in ruby? Some pulls I get no stacks of searing wounds and some times I'm getting completely rinsed

[lyric geode]

I dont know. Maybe you outrange its ability?

Seems kinda odd

[unborn sable]

yeah idk, it's pretty tough. think i'm blocking some casts but when i get 3-4 stacks i get pwned

[lofty widget]

lucky parries

[lyric geode]

Parry does it?

Wow

Maybe I should increase my critical

Bdks should also feel like gods

[grim nymph]

Too RNG tbh

I did it on a +21 and it flattened me once

Not sure what CD spacing for that should be

[mystic fog]

i dunno wtf is wrong with me, i did 40k dps on my VDH on nokhund (granted) but my warrior is popping off at like 28k dps, same ilvl

[lyric geode]

Even with SW?

[lyric geode]

Warrior is about survivibility

His damage is mediocre.

It has some niece damage from spell reflects

[mystic fog]

nah ive def seen warriors pump 40k

[lyric geode]

Hmm

Depends on dungeons

Also, i use outburst on clap sometimes. If the pack is big

Also, if you have tons of haste, maybe go for barbaric training.

[mystic fog]

all i do on my VDH is pump spirit bomb

ez game

[lyric geode]

And they say warrior is an easy class

[mystic fog]

to be good is hard

much harder than vdh thats for sure

although i will say havoc rotation is harder than arms

but not as hard as fury

[lyric geode]

Lol. I feel fury is easy.

Arms quite easy as well.

[mystic fog]

u have to realize hard and easy are a spectrum

[lyric geode]

People dont utilise hurricane buff as much.

First you ravager then you use rotation.

Not the way around.

I wait for 3 sec when i put my ravager down to do my cds

[unborn sable]

so any tip on 2nd boss other than lucky parry?

[lyric geode]

Double shield wall

Ip capp

And have block

[unborn sable]

ah

but no cheese way to get less stacks?

just tank it?

[grim nymph]

I don't think double wall is the play

[unborn sable]

guildie said to leap out but ima get tgaped

boss frustrates me

[grim nymph]

He has a 300 yard range

[unborn sable]

pull with lust, i die on 2nd cast. pull with no lust, i take significantly less dmg and stacks

just so rng

[grim nymph]

You should never die to the second cast

idk what the CD timing is yet, since I've only tanked the dungeon once, but it took until the 6th to kill me

And it was +21

Woulda still timed it if we didn't wipe 3x to the last boss

[worthy dirge]

For embeliisments. I read the pin and after lariat is there a specific one I should target?

"Elemental Lariat" Necklace, is 30% uptime on 2.5-3% secondary stats, averages out to 1%.
"Infurious Helmet of Vengeance" is around 1% dps.
"Armor Spikes" is around 1% dps.
"Unstable Frostfire Belt" is solid dps and can proc the Raid Rings.
"Allied Wrists of Companionship" 100% uptime on 1% vers, super solid.
"Fang Adornements"is around 1% dps.

The list kinda makes it seem that you shoudl choose whatever

[harsh light]

Who has the 411, on making umbreskull just a little bit more under our control in sure azure? Becoming an absolute menace in 18+

[slim dove]

i finish 40-50k overall

402 ilvl

[lyric geode]

AA?

[slim dove]

aa i finish 60+ depending on how strong my dps is.

[sick current]

Is Maelstrom damage based on distance to illusions?

[lyric geode]

An Illusion? What are you hiding?

[sick current]

lol!

[warm plinth]

Only in the sense that it does more damage if you're within 7 yards.

It's not fall-off damage. Just don't be in melee range of the clones

[toxic pewter]

anyone notice Crawth does a shit load of damage

[warm plinth]

yeah

[left turret]

how you handle ruby life pool 2nd boss bleed dot at higher keys?

[toxic pewter]

Just had a healer ?? me on Crawth when I outhealed him

its crazy how much dam that boss does

these bleeds are ruining my fun

savage peck

[warm plinth]

and they just made it so you can't parry/dodge it too

[toxic pewter]

Crawth is no joke

imo

[fallen pulsar]

If you want to do a swag ranged pull, with the spiteful storm rasz trinket if you target an enemy and cast battle shout it’ll shoot a bolt and aggro the mob, pair that with taunt and now you can start fights by screaming

[toxic pewter]

whats the range on that seems awesome though

[lucid pendant]

yea i way outhealed the shaman i was w/ on a +14

[fallen pulsar]

Its pretty far

I think farther than heroic throw

[toxic pewter]

dang I want that

[north garnet]

Is there an updated spell reflect doc? the one in faq sends me to the SL doc

[fallen pulsar]

Pins

[lucid pendant]

the WA pinned works well I think

[fallen pulsar]

Theres also a list

Spreadsheet*

[lucid pendant]

is there such thing as too much haste

im >30% now

[forest tulip]

alright. im gonna try to run my first +10. its RLP. wish me luck

[fallen pulsar]

Idk sim different gear sets

Whenever not pure haste starts simming lower thats probably the answer

[lucid pendant]

that's just from dps perspective, no?

[fallen pulsar]

Yeah

[lofty widget]

no

[fallen pulsar]

But idk defensively prot is fine

[lofty widget]

at +40 % other stats begin being better but dont think thats reachable in s1

[fallen pulsar]

Don’t think the haste will make or break your defensive capabilities

[lucid pendant]

it changes a few things - uptime on shield wall, demo shout, and avatar

[tawdry matrix]

With primal ritual shell, what buff do you guys use in m+?

[weak snow]

Fire 🔥

[fallen pulsar]

Fire

[ivory mica]

How is possible to outheal healer as prot warrior? You have only impending victory as healing, ignore pain as absorb. What else?

[tawdry matrix]

Alright!

[forest tulip]

one of my dps said "bong ripping then omw" in party chat. should i be worried? lmao

[edgy grail]

Leech, you get 10% in a talent, you also have indomitable talent which heals for 1% every 10 rage spent

[lyric geode]

Booo. You dont outheal the healer.

[quaint folio]

how are you supposed to survive the flameheart boss in temple of the jade serpent? the jade serpent kick seems to wreak and spell reflect doesn't seem to do anything

[full violet]

Wow so many Dungeon fixes. Even SBG is fixed:O

[ivory mica]

Thats right! Thanks!

I was doing yesterday Crawth in Algethar on my 15 keys and then 14..

Everybody was scared of tree, when main issue as always was Crawth ^^

Any tricks as Prot warrior? Is demoralizing shout working on his bleed, or is it working only on first applying hit?

[lyric geode]

First, you have to kill the tree fast before the adds spawn. So you can get inside and get cleansed of bleed.

Secondly, ppl boink at the first adds spawn. Which means, they wont have the damage for second add phase.

[zealous grove]

He’s asking about crawth

[ivory mica]

Yep ^^

[zealous grove]

Why you talking about tree 😂

[lyric geode]

Ah

My bad

3 screech debuffs.

Use fire balls.

[zealous grove]

Alternate coolies with your healer.

[lyric geode]

3 screech debuffs

[zealous grove]

Demo as many as you can

Def stance them for sure

[lyric geode]

Use blue balls.

[zealous grove]

Pre sure SR only works on first hit but I’m not 100% on that. I’ll say it does make it comfier for sure

[ivory mica]

I was with resto on 16 and we did it. Yesterday with priest holy, it was rlly bad

[full violet]

Certain bosses on 20 Tyr i do perma def stance tbh

[lyric geode]

People dont know mechanics in Algethar and just go for the achievement to get both of these at the same time. I run a 14s key and they didn't know mechanics.

[full violet]

Crawth is one of them

[zealous grove]

Same now. Hyrja I sit D.

[lofty widget]

why tho

just swap when she does the big beam

[zealous grove]

I go D for crawth after second goal.

[lofty widget]

then go back to b stance

[full violet]

Lazy i guess

Chillstorm too

[lyric geode]

The bird boss aren't we talk about?

[zealous grove]

Cause I am not really properly meleeing during sanctify, and eye of the storm I just want to have my healer have one less person to think about.

[zealous grove]

I go B for shield breaking but otherwise sit D

[lyric geode]

Also use spell reflect on beam as well

[full violet]

In reality it just comes down to fear and lazyness

Im Not confident enough to stancedance some bosses

[lucid pendant]

I d-stance prog keys whole way through

[full violet]

Well i dont do that, cuz thats griefing

[lucid pendant]

I pull big and aggressively, so idk

[tawny prawn]

erm, thats more reason to not use dstance right

cause you have big rage = big shields

[full violet]

I do the same, yet on tyr weeks u can sit B nearly 99%

[lucid pendant]

explain @tawny prawn ?

[full violet]

More damage = bigger IP

[lofty widget]

bloodsurge

[quaint folio]

jade serpent strike (the one with necrotic + dot) from the second last boss drops me in 2 ticks. Is this normal? I have some form of mitigation each time and it still trucks.

[tawny prawn]

if you go for big pulls, you have major cooldowns ready on most pulls. you dont need to dstance

[tawny prawn]

i'd dstance here in that case. and:normal rotation untill green, then you use shield wall first, last stand second, and if you cant make it trough then specc in more heavy defence

[patent zealot]

Take barely any dmg in bstance too

Spell reflect and shield block is enough for nearly everything

[lucid pendant]

hmm, do you guys have tier?

[tawny prawn]

2/4 atm. my warr is 295 ( 2 weeks old)

[lucid pendant]

im ~394, no tier

[tawny prawn]

395*

[oblique kayak]

tier didn’t change you stance use really

[lucid pendant]

4% DR is kinda big, no?

[tawny prawn]

i'd say it is

[lofty widget]

it's really not

[oblique kayak]

so? it’s 4% on Bstamce aswell

[lofty widget]

doesnt change your choices in any way

[tawny prawn]

you revenge anyway

[pallid quiver]

It mostly just smooths out your damage intake

[tawny prawn]

so its a easy extra dr

[pallid quiver]

It doesn't enable anything or something

[lucid pendant]

precisely.

[pallid quiver]

not like you can take a tank buster suddenly with it or something

[edgy grail]

i mean you can

about 4% better

[lucid pendant]

yeah idk, that's like a whole flask

(tepid vers)

[tawny prawn]

4% versa for doing your rotation, i dont want to miss on that tbf

more dmg, more dmg reduction - gg and it all adds to anything else you have so. i'd say its good

[lucid pendant]

yea, not debating whether tier is good

it's obviously good

just saying it helps you do things in b-stance

[tawny prawn]

i think your mindset is the oppositive of mine regarding stances

bstance = the stance

[zealous grove]

I wish we could link discord to raider.io. It sucks not knowing if you’re getting advice from an 1100 rated guardian Druid or a 2800 pwar 😂

[tawny prawn]

you dont use defensive stance 99%

[lucid pendant]

im a 1940 prot, im still learning/grinding this season

[full violet]

D Stance is a CD. A CD u can use perma on certain Things. See it like that

[toxic pewter]

any other no-stancers in the chat

I am fully against any and all stances

[zealous grove]

Defensive stance is exactly that. A defensive. Don’t sit in it unless you’re dying all the time. Swap to it when you know you’re gonna take big dam or you don’t know what dam you’re going to take - then swap if the dam isn’t that high

[lucid pendant]

sounds like a stance against stances

[zealous grove]

That sounds like a stance

Dammit pestle you bastard

[toxic pewter]

🤯

omg the wow south park episode just came on comedy central

what are the odds

[zealous grove]

6

[sick current]

can we not spell reflect last boss in ruby anymore? ninja hot fix?

[forest tulip]

man, i feel bad. im getting my ass kicked in a +10 and people are getting pissed at me

[languid peak]

Do you prio shield block before using rage on IP?

[mighty valley]

keep shield block up 100%

[tulip kelp]

99% unless it’s some weird phase where you’re not getting melee and it’s just spell dmg or something

[mighty valley]

it still increases your shield slam damage

[forest tulip]

RIP. guess people got fed up. they just left. now i have a dead key

[onyx matrix]

I hate when that happens

A punish mechanic for leaving keys Should exist

[oblique kayak]

disagree

[forest tulip]

i mean, i understand. i was in over my head in a +10 on RLP. the 2nd boss just beat the brakes off me. between trying to kite so there was room for my dps and not dying to the DoT. it was rough

[steel canyon]

is it any good to macro shieldblock to shieldslam?

[warm plinth]

No

[onyx matrix]

No

[worthy dirge]

is pain and gain talent garbage?

[languid peak]

Unless the people are absolute cunts and brick your key because their annoyed at something minor, bricking keys usually just means you weren’t ready for that level either skill/gear imo

[steel canyon]

i struggle with my uptime, i have like 50% average in my dungeons. is there a weakaura that can help me out?

[urban portal]

It’s just passively good

[warm plinth]

No, but it's fine to give it up for more utility-focused talents

[urban portal]

Decent

[warm plinth]

I think you might be overthinking it if you think you're having to move all the time. The only times you need to move is after an add dies. You move just beyond the fire so there's room to drop add/boulder behind and then you plant until add dies

[forest tulip]

thats what i was originally doing!

but they told me i needed to move more

[warm plinth]

Maybe you're not leaving enough room between boss and fire?

or they just don't know how to do the fight

[forest tulip]

i dunno. literal trial by fire, i guess

[patent zealot]

Its nice to bait the fire

But should be enough room for u to move around and the melee to hit the boss

[weary python]

I'm so happy about this from my first kurog kill from earlier.

[warm plinth]

[quaint folio]

If i'm dying through shield wall + ip in 2 seconds or 1 shot according to warcraftlogs, does that mean I'm undergeared or am I misunderstanding the fight?

[languid peak]

Do we sit in b stance all the time? I literally never have lol

[quaint folio]

I'm dying through shield wall where the initial attack drops me down to 10% , then the ticks eat me alive

[patent zealot]

Shield block + ip uptime

On demand d stance then u shid be fine

[languid peak]

Right so for the most part b stance?

[patent zealot]

Missing out on free dmg

[urban portal]

Why would you sit in dstance when mobs are scratching you

[languid peak]

Guess I’m just being timid usually play mage leveled my alt warrior to 70 yesterday

[tired rune]

Is there a good way to proc the raid fire damage rings?

[languid peak]

The frost fire belt I think

[lyric geode]

389 eranog ring or 424 ring?

[blazing condor]

sim it

[lyric geode]

How to sim something I dont have.

[forest tulip]

I DO NOT LIKE RLP

[lyric geode]

Rlp is walk cake

[forest tulip]

im struggling with it. failed a +10 and am failing a +9

waiting on someone to get back from repairs

[lyric geode]

To be honest

Running challenge modes should not hinder durability.

Also, unpopular opinion. They should reinstate challenge modes.

[lusty grotto]

thats not an unpopular opinion

[lusty grotto]

decoration trinket from eranog and/or frostfire belt like ZemF said

[lyric geode]

Bald wukong feels wrong.

[forest tulip]

AND SOMEONE LEFT THE GROUP

THATS 2 IN A ROW

[lusty grotto]

dota2 is the superior moba

fight me

[lyric geode]

Dota 2 is for Russians.

[lusty grotto]

LoL is for weebos

[lyric geode]

Agreeable

That is why I dont play either games

[lusty grotto]

the only good thing LoL has is Arcane

and admittedly its pretty good

[lyric geode]

I prefer playing Single player rather than Multi player is the true unpopular opinion.

[lusty grotto]

hmm idk, i at least have a healthy balance of both

[lyric geode]

Nah, whenever I play multiplayer, I either play with my friends or I dont play.

[lusty grotto]

thats kind of how i do it as well

[lyric geode]

You also like play paradox games?

That would be trully unpopular opinion.

[lusty grotto]

i have no idea what those are

[lyric geode]

Uh..

Lets change discussion

[lusty grotto]

dont get discouraged, it happens to everyone

what specifically are you guys wiping on

[lyric geode]

Basically there is a game developer called Paradox Games.

They mostly are in Grand Strategy genre.

[lusty grotto]

oh

yeah i recognize those

unfortunately ive never played them

[lyric geode]

I have 356/356 achievements in eu4

[lusty grotto]

nice

[lyric geode]

[arctic marten]

With the 2-set bonus, should I be trying to track and maintain the Vanguard's Determination buff? Or just play as before?

[blazing condor]

"lets change discussion" btw

[lusty grotto]

just play as before

[blazing condor]

i mean you got 5 seconds to press revenge between stacks

you should have it up

[lusty grotto]

you can min max it, but i dont think its worth it unless youre aiming for a huge parse somewhere

[blazing condor]

its also DR

so its not bad to have up

[lusty grotto]

i think the only time i check is basically for big outburst SS

or outburst TC

[lyric geode]

Well, I am not some kinda of weirdo that plays HOI 4

[blazing condor]

parse% is for all keys right

and key% is in relation to every log on that key level

[calm sentinel]

what flasks are folks using these days for higher keys? Eye of storm or vers?

[jagged pier]

storm

[calm sentinel]

tyvm

[thorny stone]

Storm over glacial?

[vague breach]

Anyone know where to find some solid Tanking Macros?

[blazing condor]

what did you have in mind?

[jagged pier]

in m+ yer

[vague breach]

To be honest I'm just looking to consolidate keybinds. I was hoping a pro would have some they like that I could learn from

[jagged pier]

u cant do that for warrior

[blazing condor]

we don't really do macros

you can macro mouse-over to certain abilities, and so you can swap stances on one button

and stuff like that

there's an IP + SS macro as well

but thats about it

[upbeat salmon]

Probably mouse over axe throw

[blazing condor]

i only mouse over charge personally

[unborn sable]

holy shit Crawth is nuts 18 and he pumping us

[upbeat salmon]

Did he bug out?

[vague breach]

IP and SS ? hrrm

[blazing condor]

ignore pain and shield slam, its so you can press ignore pain and also hit shield slam if it's up

doesn't do all that much

more of a qol thing

since IP is off gcd anyway

[solar blade]

there aint no carpel tunnel if you do it right :/

people come up with the weirdest shit at times

[languid peak]

In game?

[cinder storm]

unless they bug out and you cant get past second ledge

[open lake]

elemantal lariat good for prot?

cool I just crafted one

[jagged pier]

it replaces your IP bind u still have to keep your SS bind

its not a in 1 macro

[jaunty inlet]

Hey Guys, do you just press Shield Block on Cooldown since it stacks or do you wait for 1 second remaining or so?

[lone eagle]

As long as you aren't overcapped (3x duration), I just press it

24s is the max duration

so if you are 16s or less, press it

unless a pull is ending soon

[vague breach]

You know what, is there a way to macro If 20 seconds remaining cast IP?

on SS

or SB rather..and yeah I figured but that would be wonderful

[jaunty inlet]

Ah didn't know that, thanks a bunch

[frank spire]

How are people surviving second boss in RLP? got capped IP and go down to 10-20% hp. first and second are survivavble pretty easy with wall for first and last stand for second but when those are on cd its gg. am i doing something wrong?

Im thinking about The searing blows abillity

[limpid anchor]

It’s not a solo game

[lone eagle]

IV should be able to cover every one

or close enough

Like it definitely hurts

but preprep your IP like you've been doing; I think its also Spell Blockable if you take Spellblock for that dungeon

[warm plinth]

It's not

[lone eagle]

then dump another IP and an IV in as soon as it goes off

[warm plinth]

Initial hit is blockable (regular block). The DoT is a bleed.

[lone eagle]

Ahh, wasn't sure if you needed spellblock to block the initial hit

[warm plinth]

and it's a DoT so you couldn't spell block it anyway XD

yeah initial hit is just reg block

[lone eagle]

But yeah, you should be able to IV every one

It will still hurt

[warm plinth]

You'd think something called "searing" would be magic huh

But nope

[lone eagle]

but that 30% max HP heal will help a bit while your healing catches up

honestly BDK is probably busted for that fight

bank max RP, DS DS DS during the DoT

[warm plinth]

Yeah BDK just laughs at it tbh

[lone eagle]

Blood Shield covers the dot ticks

[warm plinth]

Our M+ tank plays both

pwar and bdk

and bdk is free

[blazing condor]

well fire isn't really magic

[warm plinth]

Magic meaning non-physical sir

Nothing in the game deals magic damage

But it's a good way to cover all the non-physical at once

[frank spire]

I need to play really sweaty at just a +18 on that boss seems really weird

[blazing condor]

i know i was just joking

[warm plinth]

Listen

You're a dog who doesn't know

[blazing condor]

ok

i dont know

but i was still joking

[warm plinth]

I know

I'm sorry

I love you

[blazing condor]

[warm plinth]

[warm plinth]

It's really just use your CDs wisely and hope your healer knows they need to pump

[mighty valley]

Fire should do the opposite of make you bleed

Bad theming tbh honest

[warm plinth]

Blizzard is big dumb

[dry grail]

can someone help me out with protection weapon enchants? i simmed sophic vs frozen devotion for dungeonslice, patchwerk 3 targets and patchwer ST and frozen devotion simmed better on all of those fights for me

so is there any reason to go sophic devotion at all?

[lone eagle]

defensively its slightly better

[dry grail]

also while going through the top ranked rio protection warriors it was pretty evenly split between the two

[dry grail]

just for the parry chance then?

[crimson furnace]

guys, does the tier set 4p stack with our IP talent?

for a total of 20%

dmg done added to IP

[undone verge]

most likely

[steel belfry]

Do people use Dungeon Slice for simming M+ ?

[blazing condor]

people use it yes but you shouldn't really

its not super good

[steel belfry]

ok thanks

[limpid anchor]

It depends how the sim overlords for warrior configured it

[exotic rapids]

does anyone know the ppm on primal ritual shell for earth?

[limpid anchor]

For frost dk it’s really good appearntly, for warrior not so much( I believe)

[raven zealot]

possible dumb question, but leveling my warrior alt to tank on, when do you take into the fray and when do you take heavy repercussions? i see people take both

[limpid anchor]

Your choice kinda

Depends if you want to play bolster or not

In raid it’s just itf

[raven zealot]

i'll probably go itf while i learn then since its something i dont need to pay attention to

[limpid anchor]

Hr is easier

As you always want to keep sb up

[wraith niche]

Can you explain how that choice depends on bolster?

[limpid anchor]

Bcs you need either one of the block talents to not have gaps

But

Maybe I’m wrong about the names

[wraith niche]

So if you run bolster and itf you lose to much uptime on shield block

[limpid anchor]

I meant the last stand Talent that gives you block

[lone eagle]

str also converts into armor

[grave flame]

what other embelishement is better for m+ , i have lariat atm , guide says belt or helm but im curious on how good the helm is?

[limpid anchor]

Other way around. If you use itf you need boöster for uptime

If you run hr you can use spike shield or whatever

[tired pivot]

the wowhead guide?

[wraith niche]

No yeah that makes sense, I was wrong on the names. Thought bolster was the double shield wall one. Thank you for the explanation!

[tired pivot]

pretend that it doesn't exist and use icyveins guides

[grave flame]

icy veins tell the same , it says to pick between belt or helm , but im curious how good helm is in m+ ? also not sure how big is the belt without raid ring or trinket

[blazing condor]

there's some more embellishment info in the pins

[tired pivot]

helm is not that big

I would never craft it due to the fact that it shares tier set slot

it is surprising that they are recommending it over wrists

wrists or belt are your real choice for 2nd embellish for m+

[blazing condor]

i went fangs and lariat

[tired pivot]

what do fangs do again?

[grave flame]

ok , i guess getting rings or fire trinkets makes belt a way better choice

[blazing condor]

proc for extra physical damage

[tired pivot]

right, I would still go belt or vers wrist over that

[blazing condor]

i feel like its all more or less the same

[tired pivot]

vers gives tankines while belt procs raid rings

[blazing condor]

ya but 1% vers is 1% damage and 0.5% dr

its not really all that

[tired pivot]

it is just straight up better

[wraith niche]

Just want to check that my assumption is correct:
Using demo shout on someone that already put a dot on you will do nothing to reduce the dot damage, correct? It has to be preemptive?

But shield wall helps even if it's cast after

[sweet summit]

it does not have to be preemptively

the damage it will do gets updated if the mob that inflicted you gets affected by demoralizing shout

[wraith niche]

Music to a newbies ears, thanks 🙏

[tacit haven]

I was about to ask bout second boss RLP and searing blows, but figured I'd do a search first... good to know I'm not the only one that's had trouble with this one heh

[tulip kelp]

I’ve failed like 10 RLP keys today can’t even get past first boss

Most healers just can’t keep up with damage

[tacit haven]

haven't had much trouble with first boss, no real tankbusters there right?

[tulip kelp]

Yeah it’s all group damage or dps

Not even that high, just 18s and 19s… but legit failed at least 10 keys wiping on first boss cause healer or dps die to aoe

[versed matrix]

It's wild how some people refuse to stack for shit, except for frostbomb

That has to go off right next to the boss

[tulip kelp]

Yep no problem dropping hailbombs all over room tho

[fallow nova]

When I first started getting back into m+, I figured by the time I get as far as +5s I'd better know exactly what's going in in every dungeon.

[shy sluice]

incarnate iron or tier pants from vault(2/4 atm without them)?

[fallow nova]

Boy howdy, pugs out there do NOT feel the same lol

[sick sentinel]

no worries, life is full of times you get sent to hosetown

a big old bus just shows up in front of your house, you get in and then your on your way one way ticket

[sick sentinel]

and this, pugging all 4 guys into a +15 with no voice and just faith in your group is like as hard as +20 in voice

until you try pugging around 15's all 4 you have no idea how bad it really is

[fading isle]

Guys have the seed of AV 402, the Rubi of Terros 402 and the Totem of Kurog 408, wich trinkets should i use, have no clue

[sick sentinel]

you get groups of 3 or 4 or 5 people run a +22 vaults and "it's easy"

well, yeah, you guys are a bunch of pros doing the meta on voice chat

i wonder why the rest of us are failing or just barely making it on 15s

[fallow nova]

Yeah, just about all of my m+ experience is in pugland where I'm explaining things like "grab a blue rune to not get nuked" on SBG

[uncut bison]

Proc chance? % of dmg in a m+?

[sick sentinel]

"Everything is a cliche' until it's happening to you" Max Payne

[fallow nova]

More than record-breaking runs, I usually just find myself praying for chill/non-idiotic players who can take a wipe and just keep pushing rather than start bitching.

[sick sentinel]

its so wild to me even beginning to describe how to pug a 15

cuz its on a timer, so you cant sit between pulls and type a paragraph explain how you want the fight done

so your like racing to put down world markers pray the party understand what they mean

[fallow nova]

Obviously, you should just have notepad open with a paragraph ready for copy/paste for each section of each dungeon for each role

duh

[sick sentinel]

and then you probably type in unga bunga cavemen "lightning" speak in the chat

[fallow nova]

Lol

[sick sentinel]

its like

[sweet summit]

it's like 6+haste rppm i think
~1% overall damage

[sick sentinel]

if i could put it all into words, i would, but i couldn't come close to doing it justice the things i think and feel trying to do some of these keys

alot of rage and angry boys lots of GG's too

[fallow nova]

The emotional gamut of m+ pugland

[open gazelle]

Did we just get an avatar DR buff?

[fading isle]

👆

[mortal brook]

nah, legacy tooltip crap

[open gazelle]

Doesn’t reduce dam taken by 10%?

[open gazelle]

Says a change is coming to avatar in 10.5 with a DR buff

[fading isle]

How do we simulate as tanks?

[jagged pier]

you go to raid bots and u sim

[stark lance]

is 4piece good for suvivability? It reads kinda meh

[jagged pier]

its 5% leech

[fading isle]

I mean for m+

[ashen grail]

Hello, excuse me, I'm asking myself some questions about embellishments. How many can we wear ?

[sterile mason]

Hey guys, should I firstly upgrade Lariat to 405 or my sword (Primal Molten Longsword)?

[stark lance]

Is it though? 5% damage to ignore pain which ignores 50% of damage, so its more like 2.5%?

[gritty glen]

2 + flavor pocket

[steel mauve]

2, says on the embellished item unique embellished (2) or some thing like that

[ashen grail]

Oh yeah thx 😄
I already use lariat and Fang Adornements. A friend say me that armor spikes on shield is better then Fang Adornements, is it true ?

for m+ ?

[steel mauve]

the difference isnt much, they are all within 1% of eachother

[ashen grail]

He said me that shield has more chance to proc cause in pack, a lot of mobs are hitting me

[gritty glen]

All embellishments are marginal, just pick some

[ashen grail]

OK tysm

[radiant robin]

what are you guys playing heavy repercussion or itf?

[fallow nova]

I prefer HR because SS resets giving me forever long SB is fun

Also then I don't feel the need to take Bolster

[paper smelt]

Hi, new prot warrior here. Was lucky enough to get the Filial seal in my time walking cache. Is it pretty much just the frostfire belt we should go for to proc it reliably or is there other stuff that works good too? I've read there is a sword from a world rare in Waking Shore and I know about the odd On Use trinket like the RLP one. Anything else worth thinking about?

[ripe cave]

does gleaming incarnate thunderstone not doing anything?

[mortal brook]

its supposed to give the mythic lightning effects to the non-mythic sets. lfr/n/h/non-elite

or something

heckin bugged tho

[lyric geode]

Am I douche?

[fallen pulsar]

What did you do

[lyric geode]

I had this

[sick sentinel]

When using intervene on fenryr do you need to like kinda insta use it or do you have like a second

[indigo wharf]

is any list of spells that can be spell reflected/blocked in dungeons?

[lyric geode]

Rolled for Dathea hands on hc

I took them because it was Ilvl upgrade

[tacit haven]

6 ilvl upgrade you could've valored up for cheap

[fallen pulsar]

Yeah, I’d say if someone was missing the piece and you took a 6ilvl upgrade it’s pretty rough move

[tacit haven]

and kept valoring it even higher later

[fallen pulsar]

Doubly since you had hands that were valorable

Sheesh

[lyric geode]

It was Ilvl upgrade

[fallen pulsar]

Minor

And you could have gotten it with valor

[lyric geode]

upgrade is upgrade

But valor is precious

[fallen pulsar]

I mean justify it however you want lmao

It’s not a good look though

[tacit haven]

that's 800 valor, and you could've kept the gloves, for upgrading it 6 ilvls more with valor, for 415

it was a bad move

[stable valve]

Still not a nice thing to do

[lyric geode]

I mean, for Transmog?

[fallen pulsar]

Did you do a pug or was this in guild?

[lyric geode]

Ofc pug

If it was guildie I would consider it

[tacit haven]

but to your first question, the answer is yes.

[fallen pulsar]

I mean tmog doesn’t really justify it, it’s still a bit of a dick move

But if nobody ahead of time set ground rules for rolling, /shrug

[mortal brook]

A guild would have rules for this, a pug you roll on upgrades whatever. For mog its monka

[lyric geode]

I mean, I would switch with a pvp gear and call it a day

[patent quiver]

Do you drop Sidearm for Intimidating Shout if you need the extra stop?

[lyric geode]

Nobody would find this

[lofty widget]

rather drop pain and gain

[tacit haven]

feels like you asked the question hoping for a completely different response, backfire 😄

[lyric geode]

I asked this question because I was certain it was a douche move and I would make it again <3

[fallen pulsar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tacit haven]

ok then?

[fallen pulsar]

Weird flex but ok

[mortal brook]

Rng rolls are rng. Winning an upgrade over someone who it is also an upgrade for is pug life

[lyric geode]

I mean, if someone had already eranog ring, would he also roll for eranog if it was an upgrade

My only concern about this move is that I waste my good roll. 94 :(

[torpid fiber]

Correct but there is also just being a slightly considerate human

[lyric geode]

Nah, he would probably laugh his ass off and he would have right

Another thing is that I could have sell this tier piece for money

But eh, I am not that cold hearted

[torpid fiber]

He would laugh his ass off cause he got a piece that wasn’t really an upgrade for you?

[patent quiver]

One more question, what would you drop for Battle Scarred Veteran when you need it?

[lyric geode]

You didnt understand. Lets say there are two people. One has eranog ring on normal and one that doesnt have. They go to heroic and they roll for eranog ring. The one that already had the ring on normal would get it (chance). He would laugh his ass off.

[patent quiver]

Getting up into 20s now and find myself getting rather owned by some packs (Furies haha)

some bosses truck too

[lyric geode]

Stun, stun.

People need to cc

[patent quiver]

I only have so many 😛

[mortal brook]

Why not bid on the higher eranog ring if theres no loot rule exoectations set

Like, this scenario is kinda bait

[patent quiver]

Is there almost no reason to take BSV? Just git gud?

[torpid fiber]

Whatever you need to do to justify your behavior dude. You just seem pretty scummy tbh

[tacit haven]

if you feel you need it, just go for it imo

and when you feel safer, drop it again

[patent quiver]

What do you get rid of? Thunderlord?

[lofty widget]

yeah

[patent quiver]

Sweet ty

[tacit haven]

question, would you drop cobalt shield ring, or 389 blaze with socket? I swear there are no rings in this expansion...

[lyric geode]

Blaze ring

[sick sentinel]

i wonder if there will be a dragon riding mount that has a repair function on it, if it doesn't exist

[grizzled sable]

I’ve been looking for an updated version of this as well

[lofty widget]

in the pins

[steel mauve]

should be using the dps cobalt ring

i think it still out dps's most others, unless a really high ilvl but could be incorrent

[lyric elm]

you use the tank ring

it's about 10% mitigation

[twilit crow]

How long would it take to get my prot warrior that is 60 to 70 and get some base gear to start tanking. My main is a guardian druid that is 405 would it be easiest to link my rio on the warr and just grind it out over the weekend

[fallen pulsar]

I swear this chest piece doesnt actually exist in the CoS loot table, I’ve done like 20 runs without it dropping

[fallen pulsar]

What content do you want to be able to do? Heroic raid, high io?

[steel mauve]

some thing we dont really need, the dps ring is more used

[twilit crow]

I'd be aiming for aotc and 2400 if I rolled off to a warrior I'm at that point basically on my druid I'm just feeling the lure of warr

[lyric elm]

prot wars run this ring in 20+ keys.. but you do you

[sweet summit]

depends on how much time and gold you have

[blazing condor]

old erga pfp pog

[sweet summit]

pog

[twilit crow]

I've got enough gold, farmed shit loads at the start of shadowlands and I enjoy running keys so that isn't an issue

Not shadowlands dragonflight

[fallen pulsar]

^ heroic raid is pretty reasonable to clear at like 380-385 which with m0 titan matrix + sparks + other gear sources can be pretty quick

[twilit crow]

If I were going in rn with 4 sparks what is prio for crafting? Just sim it?

I have no worry about getting to 390ish

Past that is where I'm worried about just feeling bad having to farm for weeks and not actually progressing

[sweet summit]

if you can't leech hc from guild buy a boost
craft weapon+shield+lariat
have guildies help m+ with platestack and you should be 400 in like a day or two from 60

[lyric elm]

weapon, shield, lariat, whatever you need to fill a slot

[fallen pulsar]

Idk i feel like you can reach 2400 if you’re good at 390+

So if you can get there fast you should be fine

[sweet summit]

getting 2.4k in one week is quite difficult i think

[fallen pulsar]

More gear just makes it easier

[twilit crow]

My guild don't raid HC were still progressing normal as a group so that's kinda out, I was wanting to roll an alt that is the meta tank to see how far I could push it

[fallen pulsar]

2400 in a week is probably not feasible but gearing to be able to get there is more reasonable imo

[twilit crow]

No yeah I'd not bother just get a base done on both weeks

[fallen pulsar]

Depends on how much loot funnel you get

[twilit crow]

Fair fair, sorry for the abstract ass question haha

[fallen pulsar]

Like people were doing 17s week 1-2 of season 1, and we now have multiple sparks, lfr, and raids for massive ilvl loot

So I dont think gearing will be as hard as getting comfy at the class to do the hard content

The m+ will be way harder than the AotC anyhow

[twilit crow]

Yeah that's the thing I'm very at home on bear

Played nothing but it since df launch and now I'm geared on it have good tank parses etc I'm just figuring out where to go from here

[fallen pulsar]

Best of luck 🙂 lots of good resources and helpful people on this discord

Just always remember to

[twilit crow]

👍 I've already got my warr set up and I played about 2 weeks of it in pre patch so I'm not totally brainless ill probably only have more questions when I have logs to disect

[crimson furnace]

i think this is one of the best discord classes out there

people here are just amazing

fun and rly helpful

[unreal mica]

How valuable is the 4set of prot?

on fury its pretty much trash

4set compared to higher illvl gear

[sterile bough]

its fine

[crimson furnace]

4set

[sterile bough]

nothing special

but not bad

[crimson furnace]

if u can, take 4set

[unreal mica]

kk ty 🙂

[cerulean musk]

For bracer enchant leech or avoidance?

[rose oar]

hi guys

i'm getting destroyed by Liu Flameheart on jade temple

do you know what can i do ?

[sweet summit]

1. SW + IV + demo
2. external + sr
3. spell block + LS
4. still spell block + IV +sr
5. wall + pot + pray
6. hope for the best + demo + sr + healthstone if you have a lock
7. (phase before this or u are not having a good time)

have IP+DefStance for all
healer should track the CD and know when it's coming, it's not all on you
(spell block does not help for the dot at all, only the initial hit)

[light jetty]

Does anyone have a WA for tier set uptime?

[glass spear]

what phials should I use for M+? eye in the storm seems good, how good is tepid versa?

[sweet summit]

can easily make a weak aura to track when the buff is active
spell name "Vanguard's Determination" spell ID "394056" <- not sure if this one is accurate i found it on wowhead

or you can take a look at wago.io

[tired pivot]

this is overkill on 1st

[sweet summit]

eye of the storm is really good, big fan

[rose oar]

tyy

[sweet summit]

i guess you could delay demo for 2nd but then it won't be back up for 6th if you get that one i fear

[tired pivot]

it should not really get past the 4th

[sweet summit]

[weak frost]

Are you able to spell block the Piercing Shard frontal from the Crystal Fury mobs in AV?

[sweet summit]

yes (check the sheet in the pins)

but also it should not go off

hard cc it

[tired pivot]

I have been doing
1st SW
2nd SpellReflect + Last Stand + IV
3rd Demoralizing shout + pot
4th External + what I might have

usually dies by then

before the 5th which is usually a death sentence

[indigo wharf]

Take 2 sw

[tired pivot]

this is where CR comes in handy

as risk to dps deaths is very minimal here

[modern crypt]

guys I started running Into the Fray instead of Heavy repercussions and with this I feel I have trouble keeping up Shield block, running out of charges a lot even with shield charge. Any tips or i should just go back to the old talent 😄

[sweet summit]

you need 3/4 SB talents for full uptime
so either pick up bolster or swap back to HR

[fallen pulsar]

Yeah people usually run bolster with itf

[edgy grail]

you should prob have 2 walls in temple

imo atleast

[tired pivot]

It will hit your overall mitigation

you have to be able to get past 3rd boss without it

[edgy grail]

i mean I dont see why that is the case

[tired pivot]

and it isn't really all that hard either

[edgy grail]

i mean 3rd boss is totaly dependent on your healer

[tired pivot]

because it becomes a 3 minute cooldown

rather than a 1 and something minute cooldown

[torpid junco]

Which of the 2 should I wear? Air totem is like 8 ilvl less

[edgy grail]

it ensures you have it exactly when you want it

[tired pivot]

it doesn't

[strong forum]

dont look at subcreation

it provides literally 0 useful information

[torpid junco]

I have a 418 scale from noku

As my other

[tired pivot]

I am amazed that subcreation keeps getting pushed by all these big content creators

it is such a useless tool

only use it has is the mass popularity vote

which is useless

[edgy grail]

its decent for raids since people actually log those

[sweet summit]

shit in shit out

[edgy grail]

not saying to copy what it says but gives you a decent idea

[strong forum]

for raids i'd just check logs

instead of some sort of popularity website

[tired pivot]

warcraftlogs exist already

[edgy grail]

that IS checking logs

lol

[strong forum]

subcreation compiles logs

you dont want compiled logs

you wanna check what the top 5 are doing

not all

[stable valve]

Is wrecking throw worth on heroic raz? Or should I just keep the point in the side arm

[strong forum]

ye should be a solid pickup for rasz

lots of shields there to slap free dmg in

[stable valve]

Sweet. Been getting 4-5 uses of it, but my guild hasn’t gotten past the last storm surge yet

[torpid junco]

What are our target trinkets? (I don’t raid) but killing first boss on heroic is easy

[strong forum]

grieftorch, boon and all-totem

[stable valve]

Raid trinkets are so good right now

Can get the CoS trinket

[torpid junco]

Aren’t those all raid? I don’t raid

[stable valve]

What’re your thoughts on the dathea trinket?

[strong forum]

ye from m+ you want whetstone

boon is super OP and super Dangerous to play

[torpid junco]

Whetstone and gran scale then

[stable valve]

I died once out of my ~35 uses yesterday. Using it on last boss NO after lightning starts to spawn is big dumb lmao

[stable valve]

Whetstone and raid first boss trinket

[strong forum]

ye you legit cant use it on notgud last boss

[torpid junco]

415 whetstone or 402 decoration of flame?

[stable valve]

Nom, did you know dathea trinket makes you immune to stuns?

[strong forum]

whetstone

not even close of a choice

[crimson furnace]

whetstone is life

[strong forum]

it doesnt make you immune to stuns

you still get stunned by thundering

[crimson furnace]

whetstone is like @strong forum everlasting red hair

[strong forum]

source: me

[stable valve]

Was using it on the first boss trash in NO and was able to eat every war stomp with it

[strong forum]

you can parry warstomp

[stable valve]

Hmmm, maybe it’s only some of them?

[strong forum]

you just got lucky

[lofty widget]

you definitely get stunned during boon

[stable valve]

Gtfo of here

[torpid junco]

I assume 415 whetstone over 395 All-totem?

[strong forum]

415 whetstone only gets replaced by 411+ grieftorch

[stable valve]

I did it 5 times with that trinket and never got stunned

[strong forum]

that thing is hard locked in

[stable valve]

Think it increases your parry somehow?

[strong forum]

no you just lucky 😄

[stable valve]

ROFL that is wild

Bought set myself up for big bad times in the future

[torpid junco]

What’s best logic on crafting choices? Replace worst slot ?

[stable valve]

Lariat

Weapon and shield

[strong forum]

shield/weapon + whatever you find attractive

[torpid junco]

I have 418 lariat and weapon

Haven’t used 3rd spark

[stable valve]

I crafted the belt because I got the heroic eranog ring from the weekly

[torpid junco]

Belt seems like good option since m plus drops crappy belts

[stable valve]

Do a shield before belt

[torpid junco]

Can I put the well fed embellish on shield ?

[stable valve]

I only did belt because it’s how prot can activate the raid rings

[stable valve]

On anything iirc

[restive harbor]

is the potion absorption inhibitor good for us for m+?

[stable valve]

BiS is you use shocking disclosure and it’s spiteful week for the big pad dam lol

[torpid junco]

Only 1 belt in raid also? Every belt has mastery

[void chasm]

Hey guys, any good YouTubers to learn more about prot warrior?

[tired pivot]

plka is very good

[drifting needle]

Qazi also solid.

[tired pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/@Plkatv

here is his youtube channel

he does twitch streaming mostly

[cold echo]

Hello prot friends, Does a good idea to craft the legs that give haste during fight? I mean the one with blacksmith

[tired pivot]

no

look at pins

for crafted gear

[cold echo]

ok thx

[void chasm]

Thanks guys will check these channels out!

[fading tide]

Some of these healers I pug with have themselves as the top healed person. Is this normal?

[slender blade]

Yep

[edgy grail]

I just did a dungeon where I was the 3rd most healed person 🙂

[half nymph]

should I run Spell Block for tyrannical TJS for 3rd boss?

[lyric geode]

Who was the second is the answer?

[lyric geode]

No need

Just for the adds

But adds can be kited, cced

[edgy grail]

it is good yes

run spell block

[half nymph]

alright, im low geared and doing 19

[weary python]

Other tank on h grimtotem to me last night "stop hitting your fucking buttons, nobody cares about your heroic grimtotem parse". Feelsbadman I just hit the buttons to stay alive my man.

[half nymph]

i thought i need to compensate for my lack of ivl : D

[edgy grail]

what ilvl are you?

[blazing condor]

you would definitely run spell block

[half nymph]

390

cheers!

[toxic pewter]

I run it for sure

[steel mauve]

if he needs you to stop hitting buttoms assumably to keep aggro, then he kinda needs to start hitting more buttons...

[toxic pewter]

Truly a disgraceful individual

[weary python]

He the guild leader tho and raid leader

[toxic pewter]

Yeah gquit immediately

[steel mauve]

even more embarassing

[toxic pewter]

Not even joking

[weary python]

I did not stop hitting the buttons

[toxic pewter]

That’s embarrassing and pathetic to hold others down because you are too weak

[steel mauve]

i can tell you from previous raid leader/guild lead experience, i want every one to perform their best, thats literally how progression happens

[weary python]

He was filling in for a tank that didn't show. He was prob 15-20 ilevel lower than me I'd imagine

[steel mauve]

in over a decade of experience, have i ever told some one to play worse...

[toxic pewter]

Doesn’t matter

[slim dove]

i just accept ill rip threat on h-grimtotem now

[toxic pewter]

If anything you should take boss first then

[weary python]

It was a progression fight too. We killed it like 3 pulls later. Was super stoked

[toxic pewter]

He should realize how threat works

[weary python]

I do. I take boss first on pull and again after the adds dies.

[toxic pewter]

Nice

[slim dove]

sounds like your co-tank has a cpm the same as his IQ

[toxic pewter]

He should be taunting a lot more even when he has boss

Something def going wrong with that individual

[steel mauve]

is taunt immune still a thing? and does taunt still cause you to generate more threat since i dont see it in the tooltip?

[toxic pewter]

Yah you get more threat from abilities and damage during taunt

[weary python]

I got a 99% healing parse both overall, and for my ilevel. I don't know if that actually factors in say damage mitigated through optimal play or just healing done. Either way it was a good kill pull as I had the 0 wasted rage like in the screenshot above.

[slim dove]

yeah whats the dmg parse tho

[steel mauve]

it factors into some mitigation but not all of it, blocked hits would be the other part of that factor and how many you didnt block while shield block was down if there was downtime

[tender cove]

NO, what boss you start with?

I've been doing the dragon, so i can lust a double pack and have it up again for tempest.

[weary python]

Healing. Only 1 kill.

[slim dove]

dragon to lust double pack

[tender cove]

or that storm boss, w/e the name

[weary python]

Dmg

[slim dove]

ok but whats the dmg parse

nice

[toxic pewter]

Which double pack specifically

[sick sentinel]

always let fly

[slim dove]

like the REALLY big one + another lancemaster pack

[tender cove]

what?

[slim dove]

only do that with my usual grp though

[weary python]

I think that's my first pink parse since I came back to WoW before DF.

[toxic pewter]

Ok cool that’s what I was thinking

[slim dove]

too many kicks and shit

if 1 misses its a wipe

[tender cove]

the big patrol with one of the arrows

[sick sentinel]

in nokhud offensive NO, the boss with the girl that used to yell LET FLY

then thunder, then duo, then final

hes the cannon dragon boss, you have to shoot a ballista at him

[weary python]

Previously we were doing thunder first for lust, then let fly, then the duo for lust again.

Haven't done Nokhud this week yet

[slender blade]

I felt like going bird boss first you alwyas had lust for ele boss

[cerulean musk]

Leech or Avoidance on bracers?

[slim dove]

speeeed

[weary python]

Interesting

[vapid pond]

Was on the healing end of this bloke in an m0 this arvo, I hope he finds you guys

thats total casts for all bosses

[sick sentinel]

duo is way easier to track if you put a green marker on the girl

[toxic pewter]

Whirlwinder detected

[sick sentinel]

3 casts of shield block

maybe hes a mastery stacker so he don't need no shield block with his passive 60% chance to block

gets all his block from champion bulwark and HR

[weary python]

That's a furry warrior with a shield.

[raven fjord]

Hey guys! Can I get your opinion with my 3rd crafted slot?
I've got Lariat and Molten longsword at 405 atm, and rocking a 376 wrist. overall ilvl is 398 with 4 set. I've seen ppl talking about shield, belt or wrist to craft as the 3rd item and am thinking of doing the tinker one to get the CR for my m+ runs since sometimes my group of ppl doesnt have one. is there any major cons about going for that wrist?

[weary python]

Shield probably

Gonna give you the most bang for your buck

[sick sentinel]

uhhh don't you have to go prot to get revenge?

[lofty widget]

depends on your current shield ilvl but yeah probably shield

best defensive choice you can craft

[steel mauve]

🤢 🤮

[edgy spear]

Healed a nokhud 11 on my druid today with a prot warrior with 11% shield block uptime and a total of 12 IP casts for the entire dungeon

feelsbadman