thundering can actually be very annoying on that boss
#protection
toxic pewter
oak echo
Leap when balls converge on you
toxic pewter
gotta make sure to clear good
solar blade
thats a genius moce
toxic pewter
if your group dont clear thundering well its not a good time on umbrelskul
proper orbit
so simming as tank youre just simming dps right? it doesnt sim damage mitigation?
oak echo
Right
toxic pewter
honestly dps should be able to clear the shards on their own so you can focus on just making sure youre not in a bad position
solar blade
more dmg>less to migitate
proper orbit
and i mean i feel like the answer is obvious and the sim is telling me, but 398 toe is beating a 379 whestone, the strength is huge right
for damage mitigation
solar blade
sure more strength always good
sick sentinel
i ate all the lighting circles on phase 2 last boss NO, won't do that again
fading tide
Double shield wall and spell block for TJS?
solar blade
spell block is enough for tyr tjs imo
sick sentinel
not really sure if i was just simply giving them no time to get mana but they had lots of mana low issue
oak echo
Double wall optional but does feel nice on 2nd and 3rd boss
Always spell block in there though
solar blade
second boss is lusted first anyway and that boss is a joke if you know how to handle it
pulsar parrot
18 tyr jade serpent debuff sucks bad 3rd boss
sick sentinel
for now at least, i just like spell block in general over all
solar blade
3rd boss is easily outplayed, just watch quazii wow cheese strat at stairs
golden thicket
what talent would u drop to skill bsv (i know u guys dont like it but were struggling with the 3rd boss in jade temple)
tawny kiln
stair strat is fixed
solar blade
already..damn
tawny kiln
solar blade
gotta wall it and have ip up to max always i guess
solar blade
it made it easier for the heal to heal you on absorb hit
oak echo
I suppose yeah
foggy drift
Is there like info on what specific dungeons/ abilities to use spell block on?
proper orbit
yes theres a spreadsheet somewhere i think
oak echo
Theres a spreadsheet in pins
solar blade
i use it in totjs and hov atm, can use it in sbg for slashes on skeletons in forti but im still testing it
fading tide
Am I the only one that thought the arcane boss and bird boss are harder then tree?
solar blade
rlp is an obvious one
bird aint hard people dont know when to throw balls
tree got nerfed into oblivion and vexamus is just use def cd and good heal
proper orbit
also people who throw balls into wind after firestorm is cringe
solar blade
u can throw into wind but after 3-4 screeches to get the dmg increase on cooldowns, also lusting on first fire goal helps a lot
forest tulip
so how much damage should you, on average, being doing compared to equally geared dps? 50%? 60%?
true bridge
does any1 have a stance macro?
solar blade
its like 8secs of 75% more dmg to boss
solar blade
does any1 have a stance macro?
pins is one
true bridge
ty
proper orbit
does any1 have a stance macro?
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:1] Battle Stance; Defensive Stance
warm plinth
Make sure to have exclamation marks before each one
So you don't accidentally toggle it off
proper orbit
like before battle and defensive?
solar blade
i also like avatar to activate my bstance in case i was in dstance for some mechanic and my avatar comes back up
warm plinth
like before battle and defensive?
yes
oak echo
so how much damage should you, on average, being doing compared to equally geare...
Somewhere around 50% is usually where I sit. Me being like 35-45k and dps 70-90k depending on dungeons that aren't academy
solar blade
take instigate on low count pull dungeons
strong forum
ye with good dps players you can only pull like 50-60% of their dmg
which is BS tbh
they need to buff tank dmg
mystic radish
Heya 🙂 Sims are telling me to push much more mastery o: Sims prob. right, isnt it? thought I just push haste > vers >= crit >>> mastery
lavish flame
does spell block work on all spells while its up?
cinder storm
Somewhere around 50% is usually where I sit. Me being like 35-45k and dps 70-90k...
Where do you find such dps, the ones I find sit between 50k-65k
oak echo
Spell block plays by weird and I'm pretty sure buggy rules
strong forum
Heya 🙂 Sims are telling me to push much more mastery o: Sims prob. right, isnt ...
you have less than 1k mastery, so makes sense
strong forum
does spell block work on all spells while its up?
doesnt work on dots
oak echo
Generally speaking it's like every direct magic damage targeted at you. Not dots and I think not aoe
mystic radish
you have less than 1k mastery, so makes sense
oh ok O: So 1k mastery should be the sweetspot?
gaunt oar
worth upgrading to the shield I got from cache this week?
strong forum
ilvl wins
mystic radish
but you just have very little mastery, so mastery will sim better
But what is the % I should at least aim for if I cannot stack the other 2nd stats x: Just go with Sim?
strong forum
just sim
mystic radish
k 🙂
strong forum
no specific % to aim for
brave jungle
When you guys say sim. Do you mean raidbots DPS sim?
warm plinth
yes
sick sentinel
they mean a dps sim in general but yes
because, they are many sites to simulate dps
brave jungle
I see
strong forum
you cant sim defensively, there you just follow the simple prio of ilvl > haste > crit = vers > mastery
pallid quiver
but if you ain't dying at literally every step, just sim for DPS
proud dock
do we take haste or vers for high AA?
pallid quiver
All stats have defensive value
brave jungle
When do I want to be in battle stance over def stance? I've always stayed in def
strong forum
always haste Paedre
proud dock
like 18+
pallid quiver
but having haste around is very nice
proud dock
RIP me
mystic radish
When do I want to be in battle stance over def stance? I've always stayed in def
execpt for high hitting abilities I stay battle x:
pallid quiver
When do I want to be in battle stance over def stance? I've always stayed in def
Always
Treat Def Stance as a defensive CD
mystic radish
e.g 18+ HoV the knockback Beam
fallow nova
I know they're both pretty rough, but is a 372 Ancestral Protector's Stone worth slotting in over a 376 Lifeflame Ampoule?
fallow nova
Tiny bit less strength, but vers procs > lifeflame dmg?
strong forum
id use the stone ye
lifeflame on use is a joke
does literally nothing
so the proc trinket actually does more than 0
fallow nova
Kinda what I was figuring
brave jungle
But are there not a lot of harder hitting abilities and spells so you need to be suuuuper agile with stances in that case?
strong forum
stance dancing is the highest skill expression
b-stance when you dont take dmg
d-stance when you will take heavy damage
sick sentinel
if i got that protector stone at a respectable purple ilvl i'd use shit out of it for a bit
pallid quiver
But are there not a lot of harder hitting abilities and spells so you need to be...
simply press shield wall
sick sentinel
20 seconds of giga versa
strong forum
its not that giga
pallid quiver
if it'd kill you without something else or something else is unavailable, you just, like, swap, then swap back
strong forum
its like 7% vers
hoary jackal
quick question. tanking razageth in phase 3.. how do you mitigate thunderous blast
brave jungle
Makes sense. It's one of the later this to master I suppose. Min/maxing. More frequently used in premade dungeons I guess
prisma crane
honestly i just want a 424 version of the uppercut trinket, for no other reason than i like it
strong forum
pwar is one of the worst tanks for that phase
sick sentinel
7% sounds fine to me
warm plinth
honestly i just want a 424 version of the uppercut trinket, for no other reason ...
424 is a very specific ilevel
pallid quiver
Makes sense. It's one of the later this to master I suppose. Min/maxing. More fr...
Like 90% of the time unless you're pushing some big stonks keys, you'll be in Battle
hoary jackal
pwar is one of the worst tanks for that phase
ok. shield wall first one. then third i guess
prisma crane
424 is a very specific ilevel
yea i just picked the highest non-rare ilvl
warm plinth
You could just be kul tiran and then you can yeet people with your fist
strong forum
ok. shield wall first one. then third i guess
and obv d-stance+demo+SR+ip
warm plinth
prisma crane
but will it hit for like 400k?
warm plinth
in your heart no
prisma crane
lol
brave jungle
So I might want to macro some of my defensive abilities like LS and SW into def stance to start somewhere?
strong forum
dont macro stances to other stuff
mystic radish
But is there a macro to swap stances back and forth?
warm plinth
It's in the pins
mystic radish
oh perfect ty!
mystic radish
2nd?
edgy spear
Does anyone else have issues with ripping threat from a bdk in raid?
toxic pewter
yes and I ripped off of VDH earlier too
edgy spear
doing terros mythic and i have to hands off for 5+ seconds some pulls after about a minute (when bdk has taunted off after 2 stacks)
hardy hamlet
I had that problem multiple times on Heroic bosses especially in the opener
edgy spear
I always open, so not an issue there
jagged pier
Does anyone else have issues with ripping threat from a bdk in raid?
yep had to move out of WF group
hardy hamlet
But obviously the co tanks often lacked hands
jagged pier
and it still happens
fluid beacon
Quick question. Just did a 16 timed and I only got 15 valor. I only did 3-4 keys so far this week. I thought you get 135 per plus extra if someone got io
Do you get less valor if you are capped or something
pallid quiver
Does anyone else have issues with ripping threat from a bdk in raid?
I've had troubles ripping from other Prot Wars. 🙂
simply tell your co-tank to actually press their buttons
hardy hamlet
I always open, so not an issue there
I do too but when they have to taunt soon ish while lust is still running
prisma crane
Do you get less valor if you are capped or something
i mean... if you're capped you get no more valor, were you at 15 below the cap and just finished off what was left?
fluid beacon
Ohhh maybe
prisma crane
thats the most likely option
fluid beacon
How much should be have accrued so far?
prisma crane
once capped though it just is what it is 
fluid beacon
1500 per week?
prisma crane
no
fluid beacon
750?
prisma crane
yes, after the initial 1500 first wk
if you hover over it it'll tell you what the cap is
fluid beacon
Fuck. I got trolled. I finally spent valor yesterday before raid in prep for Terros. After prog I did a 18 nok and got a strike again
And I'm shy 250 valor to max ir
Ffffff
haughty orchid
There is a boss in NO that u can help out by intervening
but I forgot if it's last boss or the double bosses
prisma crane
double
for the shot she does, but
with the change to the fight
its less important
prisma crane
because it really only mattered right after the winds go out
she'd wombo combo someone immediately afterwards
sullen patio
Do trinkets like whetstone profit from something like booming voice or the tier set dmg buff?
strong forum
no
sullen patio
ty!
strong forum
trinkets benefit from thundering however
brave jungle
The cobalt fingers. Would you choose the dmg one over shield one?
sullen flame
Do the spawned Deathbolt casters in Shadowmoon give %?
strong forum
The cobalt fingers. Would you choose the dmg one over shield one?
i personally prefer the tank one
brave jungle
I don't think they give % no
I guess you can verify with MDT
Safe to say that the cobalt fingers are viable for at least a while? Maybe thought the entire season?
throughout*
orchid mural
i personally prefer the tank one
would a 415 replace the Cobalt ring you think?
strong forum
defensively no, offensively yes
full violet
For me it does. Bigger Numbers = better. Simple low iq minded
dusk hinge
Glacial Fury or Eye in the Storm for higher gear ?
strong forum
glacial fury
sullen flame
I guess you can verify with MDT
I'm looking in MDT but they dont exist. My route that I know is at least 100% only shows 98% in MDT and I'm trying to figure out where the last 2% is coming from.
brave jungle
Are you trolling?
strong forum
no
sullen flame
Interesting.
brave jungle
What is the logic in that?
full violet
This cant be Intention right?
full violet
Yea i heard that
brave jungle
Would you think that it gets fixed at some point?
full violet
I guess not
sullen flame
3rd boss hitbox is weird. I noticed I can shield slam him and throw in the same spot
strong forum
so you cant hit him with thunderclap and revenge unless you stand right on the edge of the platform
full violet
Didnt happen to me yet
strong forum
it happens 100% of the time
brave jungle
That is omegafkd
strong forum
you just didnt notice
brave jungle
Do you know with fist of furry for WW eg?
strong forum
same is with every melee ability that isnt targeted
brave jungle
Fist of furry facepalm
full violet
True in case of panda
brave jungle
Since start of season?
strong forum
since the existance of the dungeon
but dungeons are just a minigame, even moreso back then, so it got never fixed and never will be fixed
coarse flower
nome whats this thing about spiteful trinket stacking when it shouldnt using a macro?
brave jungle
Crazy how they reuse it for literally pro stuff now with MDI
nocturne gale
quick question im currently simming myself with 369 shell 402 decoration of flame and 415 ruby whelp shell simming is saying that the ideal combination is rws and decoration but from searching about ruby the consensus is that since we cant choose the procs rws arent great and that the trinekt itself isnt worth much is that correct?
blazing condor
might be that the strength is just better
strong forum
nome whats this thing about spiteful trinket stacking when it shouldnt using a m...
we created a macro that spam turns on and turns off "track minerals", that in turn triggers the trinket
oak echo
ruby is probably winning on str alone at that point
strong forum
just 1 click of the macro will spam that back and forth
brave jungle
What is spiteful trinket?
coarse flower
actually dont
mystic radish
What to put out for Disrupting Shout?
coarse flower
yeah reading it a second time, that sounds sus af
orchid mural
What to put out for Disrupting Shout?
i'd simply move show of force.
strong forum
^
mystic radish
okay 🙂
brave jungle
Out of curiosity: what is that spiteful trinket. Sorry I can't think of the obvious
mystic radish
Anything else youd recommend on AA+18? This bird boss hits like a truck
strong forum
turns out the macro might actually be fixed
blazing condor
Anything else youd recommend on AA+18? This bird boss hits like a truck
for efficiency the aoe exploding pot is always good on tree boss
as long as you dont take a billion orbs it should be fine
did a 17 today with a very scuffed pug group and just rotated defensives and it felt fine
torpid junco
how is the totem trinket for prot warrior from kurog?
polar kiln
I bet this has been asked a lot but I couldn't find the answer recently. What should ignore pain and shield block uptime be in M+? Generally
torpid junco
should i run it over centaur trinket from nolu even though 8 less ilvl
torpid junco
already using gran scale from vault
blazing condor
I bet this has been asked a lot but I couldn't find the answer recently. What sh...
with the normal talents you can have 100% uptime so you should aim to have as close to 100 as possible. there is no hard number for what you "should" have for IP, but if you play properly you're gonna have very high IP uptime naturally
we care more about having high block uptime though almost all of the time
cunning knot
Can you stack on runes on Shadowmoon first boss?
polar kiln
Gotcha, I've been keeping mid 90's and only letting it drop when transitioning
blazing condor
polar kiln
ty!
blazing condor
speaking of SBG i dont remember if we have to stand in melee with 3rd boss or no? will he just start spitting if im out killing ads
tawny cypress
Up to what key level?
strong forum
all of them
mellow quartz
Haven’t done smbg this week but they do a bit of damage when you get high enough iirc
slender wedge
mystic radish
Frozen
tame valley
can you avoid the void slash in SBG?
mystic sierra
What abilities are off GCD?
slim dove
how is the totem trinket for prot warrior from kurog?
its very good.
slim dove
speaking of SBG i dont remember if we have to stand in melee with 3rd boss or no...
the adds just spit doing very low damage.
slim dove
can you avoid the void slash in SBG?
yeah, just walk away
iirc range is 8 yards so you need a decent distance to avoid it
alpine quiver
Is love prot warrior, but isnt Ignore Pain a bit to strong? (New to the spec..)
warm plinth
What abilities are off GCD?
Ignore Pain, Last Stand (not 100% on this one), Shield Wall, Spell Reflection, Charge, Intervene, Avatar. I might be missing one (or more)
Shield Charge too but only if you use it at range, which you generally don't
frosty rivet
Ignore Pain is solid all the way through, but it feels OP early because nothing can really break it
warm plinth
Is love prot warrior, but isnt Ignore Pain a bit to strong? (New to the spec..)
No. It's very strong at low content but it's consumed quickly enough on high content that it's not as strong as it looks.
It's still a solid defensive button but it's not OP
frosty rivet
Warriors power rn comes from the layers of defense
grizzled zenith
Dear all, is there any trinket tier list ?
Currently I am using "Whispering Incarnate Icon" (382) and Granyth's Enduring Scale (379) but in my chest was "All-Totem of the Master" (395) and I am not sure what to use ^^ I play mainly M+
slim dove
totem/grief/windscar/icon are dank titties.
warm plinth
Icon isn't anything special until you have other people in your group with it.
I feel this caveat really needs to be stated more often.
slim dove
i feel like you can just look at that and figure it out yourself?
frosty rivet
Granyths is okay if your undergeared a bit for passive defense but its juist not a consistent enough trinket.
grizzled zenith
so is hould go for scale and totem?
warm plinth
You should use icon and all-totem out of those 3
frosty rivet
for now ya, would try and repalce the scale
grizzled zenith
i feel like you can just look at that and figure it out yourself?
im not that good in comparing trinkets 😄
warm plinth
And if someone else has it, it becomes very good
grizzled zenith
okay
warm plinth
And if two other people have it, it becomes very very good
grizzled zenith
thanks a lot guys
warm plinth
(assuming different roles)
frosty rivet
off first boss so tis really ez
combined with totem is a really solid all around trinket pair
steel juniper
Anyone have a weakaura they use to track 4 piece?
tawny cypress
If I was to target farm 2 trinks from m+ what would they be? Hoof + whetstone?
Maybe toe + hoof?
warm plinth
Whetstone/hoof
strong forum
100% want whetstone
toxic pewter
how much overall does whetstone do in m+ if anyone can give a general range
strong forum
3.5k dps
strong forum
so like 5-6%
blazing condor
they dont do anything
Yeah thats what ive done but was curious
warm plinth
how much overall does whetstone do in m+ if anyone can give a general range
This was on my rogue in a 15 CoS
toxic pewter
ive been trying hard to make dragon games equipment work lol and it gets like 4.5-5ish %
im like running around like a jackass kicking these balls
warm plinth
2.4k DPS in that dungeon but I just macro it too so sometimes it gets used at hte end of pulls and shit 😂
toxic pewter
dang nice
toxic pewter
can other players see the kickballs for dragon games equipment anyone know
toxic pewter
Ok
tawny cypress
I need to spam CoS for auto attack ring anyways.
frosty rivet
I would just spam RLP, CoS and HoV if ur fixin for trinkets.
tulip kelp
Yeah I finally got whetstone and it was 10000% worth the two week grind
median tulip
CoS has like 5 pieces of excellent gear for us
tulip kelp
I think it dropped around run 40 or so
sick sentinel
asking the Warrior PRot HOUSE what is the recommendation for crating order >
tulip kelp
Which coincidentally was a complete slog with almost 100 deaths lmao
sick sentinel
for mythic plus / raid
tulip kelp
Depends on your gear for sure
But I think crafting weapon is a nobrainer cause of the valor you save from upgrading
median tulip
From CoS there's a Trinket, Ring, Boots, Breastplate and Cloak that all all very very good pieces to have
tulip kelp
From CoS there's a Trinket, Ring, Boots, Breastplate and Cloak that all all very...
Belt too
median tulip
The belt is okay; lotta Mastery on it
warm plinth
#AllStatsMatter
tulip kelp
I'm still rocking 372, 0 belts from anywhere
warm plinth
I made a belt on my rogue because I couldn't replace my 343. Still haven't seen a belt drop
median tulip
I'm still rocking 372, 0 belts from anywhere
For me it's Boots I haven't seen.
warm plinth
100% worth
median tulip
I'm just going to craft myself some boots next week
tulip kelp
Yep ditto
sick sentinel
got one of those just now, good valor spend later
weary saddle
i'm using an 11/13 version of Spellbane Cutlass at 408
Just havent figured out what enchant to use.
tulip kelp
got one of those just now, good valor spend later
That is 10000% not a good use of valor lol
I can't imagine how much valor that would cost to upgrade lmao
marble drift
I can't imagine how much valor that would cost to upgrade lmao
not worthy
median tulip
Just havent figured out what enchant to use.
The general thinking is that the MainStat enchant is the best one, and scales the most with increasing gear level.
kind salmon
anybody having good success for phase 2 against Liu Flameheart (3rd boss) in Temple of the Jade Serpent?
Does spell reflect help with the dot?
slim dove
anybody having good success for phase 2 against Liu Flameheart (3rd boss) in Tem...
lust 70%, tell dps to hold CDs till 70%, rotate defensives for each jade serpent strike.
Last stand + IV + pot usually clears one absorb on its own.
tulip kelp
Just save CDs for phase 2 and rotate CDs and if dps doesn't suck its fine
fluid shard
I use a very tanky build for temple, double shield wall + bsv
slim dove
if you go past 5 kicks your dps are sleeping, blame them
tulip kelp
The only time I have issues is if DPS die phase 1 and we're trying to do it down 1 or 2 dps
round cliff
during my cooldowns is it normal to have to be mashing IP just to not overcap
i generate SO much rage
slim dove
during my cooldowns is it normal to have to be mashing IP just to not overcap
spam revenge instead lul
round cliff
spam revenge instead lul
between shield slam resets and clap every other GCD i dont have enough gcds to
slim dove
between shield slam resets and clap every other GCD i dont have enough gcds to
with enough targets + CDs, yes you'll overcap on rage. blow some on IP if your gcd locked ofc
round cliff
with enough targets + CDs, yes you'll overcap on rage. blow some on IP if your g...
it was on ST
tulip kelp
Use revenge over clap if you're rage capped
round cliff
fr?
rancid socket
zealous grove
How to live shield of light on Hyrja with no shield wall? Basically nearly die even through full stack IP + LS.
tulip kelp
Yep, should save all your DR for it
zealous grove
Spell Reflect works?
tulip kelp
And use some combo for each plus IV, pot, etc..
tender cove
How to live shield of light on Hyrja with no shield wall? Basically nearly die e...
defensive stance
tulip kelp
The DR does
zealous grove
defensive stance
holy fuck im an actual moron
toxic pewter
does spell block work against that anyone know
median tulip
How to live shield of light on Hyrja with no shield wall? Basically nearly die e...
Spell Reflect helps
slim dove
Spell Reflect works?
the DR does.
tender cove
holy fuck im an actual moron
i was the same until i read it earlier today so dont feel bad
easy to overlook 😛
shrewd lotus
And use some combo for each plus IV, pot, etc..
stupid question here, whats IV ?
warm plinth
It is actually insane how many people don't know spell reflection has DR attached to it. Like...it's in the tooltip guys
tender cove
stupid question here, whats IV ?
impending victory, the heal
shrewd lotus
OH thankss
zealous grove
stupid question here, whats IV ?
the talent that replaces victory rush
zealous grove
It is actually insane how many people don't know spell reflection has DR attache...
I am brown. No think just zug.
I just bricked a 17HOV that was on track for a 2 chest
cause im bad and i feel bad.
thanks for your help guys i really appreciate it. Time to go risk someone elses key!
tulip kelp
It is actually insane how many people don't know spell reflection has DR attache...
It actually makes me angry when I group with warriors and never see them use their SR during big AOEs
limpid anchor
It is actually insane how many people don't know spell reflection has DR attache...
Like 90% of the people don’t have fingers. You think they can read?
slim dove
It actually makes me angry when I group with warriors and never see them use the...
its even worse in raid with fury warriors that dont use it.
limpid anchor
It actually makes me angry when I group with warriors and never see them use the...
Well you have the people here that say sr is just an offensive cd
tulip kelp
The amount of fury warriors at like 2400 that go through entire dungeon without pressing SR once.. so aggravating
zealous grove
ong i did not know it had a DR attached to it.
slim dove
The amount of fury warriors at like 2400 that go through entire dungeon without ...
UNGA BUNGA ME PRESS PUZZLE BOX
zealous grove
but - as stated. im dumb
rich beacon
Why are some people so resistant to living?
tulip kelp
Same goes for rally.. even at 2400
warm plinth
Crippling depression?
tulip kelp
So many fury warriors use rally as a personal CD
warm plinth
The amount of fury warriors at like 2400 that go through entire dungeon without ...
probably still stuck in the days when it required a shield
tulip kelp
Rally is the craziest.. shit is so OP.. each dungeon you can prevent 1-2 wipes with it, so crazy to just watch your healer or other dps die while not using it
zealous spade
In Nokhud last boss, you let Conductive Strike in and reflect Thunderstrike, or just reflect Conductive and eat the thunder?
strong forum
reflect conductive
tulip kelp
I reflect conductive and eat thunder
strong forum
reflecting conductive does literally 20x the dmg of thunderstrike
zealous spade
aight, neat
frosty mango
warm plinth
Big brain strat is to have a DPS warrior too so they can taunt and reflect the strike
median tulip
Rally is the craziest.. shit is so OP.. each dungeon you can prevent 1-2 wipes w...
iImplying the Fury Warrior even has Rallying Cry talented
strong forum
iirc 1 combo on +21 tyr is like 3.5mil dmg
tulip kelp
Anyone know how Deathspike on first boss in SMBG works? I see it says damage is reflectable, does that mean you stand beneath the spike as it drops to reflect?
strong forum
dont do that
tulip kelp
How do you reflect the damage then lol
strong forum
just reflect whenever the boss has 3 sword buffs
warm plinth
Anyone know how Deathspike on first boss in SMBG works? I see it says damage is ...
Deathspike is not Daggerfall
tulip kelp
Ahh I see
strong forum
you can see the boss buffs, it has 3 spikes, whenever the boss has that, press reflect
tulip kelp
Cool good to know
jovial hill
is anyone else struggling with tanking the second boss of ruby life pools? her searing blows are just deleting me.. im running spell block and using spell reflect when i can. is it just a healer check?
like im dumping all my rage into ignore pain also
warm plinth
2 conductives and 1 thunder was 8% of the boss's HP.
warm plinth
is anyone else struggling with tanking the second boss of ruby life pools? her s...
spell block doesn't do anything against that
It's a bleed
iirc
strong forum
2nd boss RLP is our biggest weakness
besides 1st boss RLP
but she doesnt fuck as often
warm plinth
The initial hit is blockable (by regular shield block). But the rest is just defensives
You can remove it if you're dwarf I believe?
Or if you have an evoker
river plinth
hey yall, frozen devotion or wafting devotion. anyone know the ppm of wafting by chance?
primarly m+ ntanking
toxic pewter
is anyone else struggling with tanking the second boss of ruby life pools? her s...
yep I struggled with her today badly in an 18
jovial hill
i use frozen for m+
tulip kelp
I use everything to survive.. shieldwall first, spellblock seemed to help, avatar/demo shout, last stand, iv, pots, rally, etc..
strong forum
you can SW every 2nd one
warm plinth
hey yall, frozen devotion or wafting devotion. anyone know the ppm of wafting b...
1ppm
jovial hill
yea im even using immovable object
strong forum
i use sophic devotion as it translates better into aoe
tulip kelp
I didn't quite make SW on 2nd, need to burn more rage for it I guess.. did it on 3rd one
jovial hill
ha
toxic pewter
I guess demoralizing shout 2nd one? llol
pastel isle
If you recraft an item only to remove embellishment, can the iLvl go down?
toxic pewter
and pots
jovial hill
pug healer.. r rough
tulip kelp
2nd use demo shout, avatar, and last stand, IV, etc
toxic pewter
wish bitter immunity still worked on bleeds lol
jovial hill
i didnt realize that was a bleed. that is good to know. thanks all
tulip kelp
Wish I was a dwarf
tender cove
I've noticed a lot of that boss is just baiting and tank positioning... If the group is going crazy, get splits etc. You're gonna struggle to get heals but if its clean? there's isnt that much damage going out.
tulip kelp
Horde struggle life
slim dove
its a fairly easy fight if done properly.
toxic pewter
I just can't switch off Vulpera the damn bag of tricks and nose for trouble too damn good
slim dove
sadly most dps arent capable of standing in 1 spot to dps
toxic pewter
and the quality of life other racials
tulip kelp
I've noticed a lot of that boss is just baiting and tank positioning... If the g...
Cause if positioning is good and you're pumping damage on both without needing to reposition boss so get behind dps that are baiting molten boulder the wrong way you can actually stack up a bunch of IP and that helps so much
lone eagle
I just can't switch off Vulpera the damn bag of tricks and nose for trouble too ...
If it makes you feel any better
toxic pewter
Just like being able to throw an instant heal to party member is really really nice
lone eagle
Nose for Trouble value has gone down with better opening setup on pull this xpac + smaller pack sizes and larger prevalance of magic damage in the middle of a pull
toxic pewter
I mean I dunno nose for trouble still healing like 7-10% overall in a key
lone eagle
Still good but it was great before when it actively made you immune to the first round of melees on every pack in a big HoA pull
tender cove
its a fairly easy fight if done properly.
for sure, everytime we've failed and I just take a a minute to put down world markers, explain how to stand and where to bait? it always dies that pull but for some reason, its impossible without holding their hands, at least not in pugs
pastel isle
Are there sims of embellishments anywhere?
nimble laurel
I just can't switch off Vulpera the damn bag of tricks and nose for trouble too ...
Is this tracked under healing in details? I'm curious what % of the overall healing it is in a dungeon.
round cliff
how do i move towards the next pack without showing my back? backpedal?
warm plinth
how do i move towards the next pack without showing my back? backpedal?
strafe
round cliff
that works?
warm plinth
Yes
round cliff
whats the angle for blocking
warm plinth
270% I believe?
solid holly
Can you spell block the jade serpent strike on the 3rd boss in TJS?
tulip kelp
Is that for real? Do I need to bind backpedal then.. I've been strafing left and right to get away
round cliff
so then strafing wouldnt work?
solid holly
isnt it 270 degrees around you?
warm plinth
I thought that too but maybe that's for mobs
I do know strafing works though
Ok yeah confirmed with a TC friend, it's 180 for players, 270 for mobs
tender cove
Is that for real? Do I need to bind backpedal then.. I've been strafing left and...
Hasnt this always been the case since vanilla?
strong forum
Strafing works if you're quick about it
tender cove
but if you strafe in a zigzag, you pretty much cover it, no need to full backpedal
strong forum
And jump strafe
You can full speed away from mobs whilst blocking if you jump Strafe and turn towards the mob mid-air
tender cove
Personally, i just backpedal strafe in zigzag.
junior spade
Hey all. I want to get back into pve is it east and fast to get back in or am I too late?
junior spade
Ok
sand drum
Huh
why does my sim say I need more mastery ? is it just cus I got low haste or ?
do we want a "base" mastery ?
strong forum
My sim doesn't tell me to get more mastery
So I'd assume yeah, get more mastery
Seems like you have abysmally low amounts of mastery if that's the outcome
warm plinth
do we want a "base" mastery ?
you want mastery if it says you want mastery. There is no "base amount" of any stat
If you have a bunch of other stats and little to no mastery, it makes perfect sense that it would want you to get mastery
sand drum
you want mastery if it says you want mastery. There is no "base amount" of any ...
it wants me to equip broodkeeper ring :c 890 mas :p
warm plinth
Sounds like you should equip the broodkeeper ring then
fading tide
Do I tank the first Heroic Boss in D stance?
edgy grail
You dont even tank mythic bosses in d stance
lucid pendant
I wanna just tank M+ in battle stance
warm plinth
then do it
edgy grail
You do tank m+ in b stance lol
strong forum
Do I tank the first Heroic Boss in D stance?
Nah
sand drum
remove Dstance confirmed :>
strong forum
Raid does fuckall dmg to tanks
sick sentinel
I can't imagine how much valor that would cost to upgrade lmao
250 per
and doesnt matter stats cuz its ilvl so block value
oak echo
a weapon is def not 250 per
sick sentinel
well
it is
cuz i did it 3 times
with 750 valor from cap
i was capped last week
tender cove
Seems like you have abysmally low amounts of mastery if that's the outcome
Just because im curious. Why is that the case? How does mastery gain more dps? Because it scales AP and nothing else does?
sick sentinel
ap mastery gives a fuck load of AP
tender cove
But if thats the case, why isnt that a consistent permanent state?
strong forum
Just because im curious. Why is that the case? How does mastery gain more dps? B...
The more you have something, the less value it has
The less you have something, the more value it has
That applies to all stats
tender cove
So it boils down to dimishing returns?
strong forum
Not just that
You don't need to hit DR points for certain stats to provide more at point X than others
That's why we got Sims
To tell us exactly that
It's basic math
sand drum
how much mas you running Nom ?
strong forum
If you have 0 vers, and then jump to 5%, you have a total gain of 5%, cuz you go from 100 to 105%
sand drum
with 31% mas it tells me to go crit -> haste
tender cove
It's basic math
If my life ever depending on math? I would die, not even joking.
I really cant wrap my head around it without applying the diminhsing returns thing. It just doesnt want to compute in my brain.
strong forum
with 31% mas it tells me to go crit -> haste
I have very little mastery but because I have whetstone I have 500 more mastery on my gear than normal, so it still tells me to go full crit haste
crimson furnace
u need to go 20+'s s
forest tulip
do you all have execute in your rotation as prot?
strong forum
You should
crimson furnace
i've been stalking you and your slacking @strong forum
crimson furnace
damn :!
strong forum
Including me
crimson furnace
sorry to hear it
how are u feeling??
is it on the nasty side, or just the general fuck up??
strong forum
I was practically dead for 4-5 days, but mostly fine again
tender cove
first time?
strong forum
Ye
strong forum
No
forest tulip
unstoppable force vs immoveable object?
tender cove
lucky, like 73% does, its horrible.
edgy grail
I was practically dead for 4-5 days, but mostly fine again
Good use of ignore pain
Get well soon!
strong forum
think itll be more useful at super high keys?
I don't think you can reach key levels where you'd need to run IO
forest tulip
fair. the highest ive run so far is +6
strong forum
Your dps will start getting 1shot way before you as the tank run into that kind of danger to require to play IO
That being said, I'm sure it can make your life incredibly easy
Defensively speaking
topaz mauve
How have you guys been having your group handle wind and fire for Crawth in Academy? I have been doing 4 screeches, wind, 3 screeches fire. Then hope we kill it. Any better or preferred rotation for pugs?
ocean bloom
id would just run aegis over IO
if you really want extra tanky
gives you more single pull tankiness and you keep TC spam in avatar for IP spam
dire matrix
whats io
ocean bloom
forest tulip
yeah, im not a super amazing tank. i like to think im solid but in most dungeons if we have an issue its the dps
lyric flower
Guys, how you are doing for Mythic Kurog transition to Intermission 1?
ocean bloom
yeah, im not a super amazing tank. i like to think im solid but in most dungeons...
just play the usual build tbh its not worth changing build up at your key levels just press your buttons on cd and you will do well
lyric flower
Some tries it work perfectly, but we are losing many tries because Kurog walk 1 step more
tender cove
in wlc, what does key % score mean?
oblique garnet
Guys, how you are doing for Mythic Kurog transition to Intermission 1?
Delay the pull from middle to fire by 1-2 seconds and then go at 96 to the next
tender cove
What does the key % mean. I dont get it. Why is the key so low on points? But high if I look the tabs like boss dmg?
What im i doing so badly in the points tab?
and it also seems to shift randomly between the two
depending what key I look at
strong forum
Key% means how well you did vs others on that keylevel
Parse% means how high the key level was
Nothing else
sick sentinel
I checked the sheets but couldn't see, are the mythic kurog adds reflectable / spellblockable on smite? seems to not be reflectable from vods but not sure about spellblock
tender cove
Key% means how well you did vs others on that keylevel
Is that the key as a whole or just my performance vs every other warrior at that level?
Does it factor into if the key was timed or not?
22% sounds fucking god awful horrible xD
Like, 3/4 warriors beat me? xD
strong forum
Is that the key as a whole or just my performance vs every other warrior at that...
Every pwar on that key level who logged
Don't look too much at the point thingy
tender cove
Don't look too much at the point thingy
Felt like getting smacked in the face lol. I have no illusions about being pro or w/e but not even HALF? noo, this i gotta fix 😦
warm plinth
Like, 3/4 warriors beat me? xD
What ilevel are you
atomic stirrup
does anyone know if you can't block attacks while channeling grieftorch
warm plinth
does anyone know if you can't block attacks while channeling grieftorch
No block/dodge/parry during channel
tender cove
What ilevel are you
i started the day at 392 and now im almost 396
atomic stirrup
i see
warm plinth
So you're competing on that parse with people who are like 405+ too
Literally any warrior that did a +15 or whatever the level is of that dungeon. There are no ilevel brackets for keys
tender cove
So you're competing on that parse with people who are like 405+ too
but are those people really doing 14s?
warm plinth
Probably
strong forum
Felt like getting smacked in the face lol. I have no illusions about being pro o...
That specific 22 just means that 78% of people have earned more points in Ruby life pool.
That's it
atomic stirrup
so what would you guys say for raid, not for mythic + would be best trinkets
strong forum
so what would you guys say for raid, not for mythic + would be best trinkets
Whetstone + grieftorch
atomic stirrup
whetstone is better then a whispering incarnate?
tender cove
Whetstone + grieftorch
Would grieftorch be justified as tank vs a dps roll? it isnt right?
warm plinth
but are those people really doing 14s?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/r4ANQPG7v1KbYxFt#fight=35&type=summary&source=570 this guy is 406 doing an algethar 14
strong forum
whetstone is better then a whispering incarnate?
Yes
strong forum
Would grieftorch be justified as tank vs a dps roll? it isnt right?
Yes it is
Grieftorch does the same dmg on a tank as it does on a dps
No reason he should have it over you
atomic stirrup
problem is with tank it makes you so you can't block while channeling
strong forum
As if that mattered in raid lol
tender cove
Grieftorch does the same dmg on a tank as it does on a dps
hmm. Doesn't dps do relative more dps as they do higher ceiling? Or is the dps just flat dps?
strong forum
It's a what, 1.5sec channel?
atomic stirrup
2sec
strong forum
hmm. Doesn't dps do relative more dps as they do higher ceiling? Or is the dps j...
Flat dps
Who cares about 2 seconds
atomic stirrup
it scales off of vers
warm plinth
Bosses generally melee at like 1.5 or 2 sec so
strong forum
You're not gonna die in 2 seconds
wanton shale
potentially it would do more dmg on a tank than dps cuz we're less likely to die and when they die we get CD reset right lol
tender cove
okok, guild has asked us to know our bis trinkets and we're only getting prio on that. So its good to know the right arguments, ty 😄
strong forum
Controlled what
atomic stirrup
controlled current technique
strong forum
What is that
atomic stirrup
that is a trinket
atomic stirrup
look it up lol
slim dove
its an agi trinket.
strong forum
Brooooo
warm plinth
The attack speed wouldn't, but the jolt of damage would
strong forum
World boss item that increases atk speed
warm plinth
strong forum
What a random nitpick
pallid quiver
the damage part scales, though, based on what ghash said
the attack speed technically isn't direct damage, it just causes more damage
tender cove
What a random nitpick
My friends mom used to tell my friend, "you can be right or you can have friends" and i think this falls bit under that xD.
fiery warren
hi , Unstable Frostfire Belt is worth even if i dont have the ring ?
strong forum
Nah
wanton shale
there's an AA queue looking for any priest - does MD work on tree or something? or there's some other priest trick in there i'm missing
sharp night
The attack speed wouldn't, but the jolt of damage would
technically attack speed scales with crit and vers too
warm plinth
No priest technique that I can think of
sharp night
more attacks scales with more stats
warm plinth
I'm aware, but we were talking about the trinket itself actually doing more damage.
Which it does, if it actually does damage
fading tide
Any tips for heroic council? Never tanked it b4?
quaint compass
dont die
strong forum
Just taunt opalfang on 1 stack, rest doesn't matter
Don't aim fire into raid, GG boss dead
craggy pilot
man playing with Blazebinder is so annoying
so often it goes off right as the mobs died
feel like its just laughing in my face :<
craggy pilot
Isnt that from raid🤔
oblique garnet
Thats the wboss
warm plinth
yes the previously mentioned one is from kurog
chilly comet
does anyone have any tips for p2 of liu in temple
Even with defensives i feel like i am getting demolished and healer just cant recover
blissful fox
do yall change talents for Tyr vs Fort weeks?
torpid burrow
idk if this has been answered before, but when I sim my toon, melee comes out to be about 20-22% of my total dmg, but even on dummies i can only get about 11% of my dmg to be from melee. I feel like i am missing something fundamental as i sim about 32k dps light movement 5 min boss fight but i pull 22-25kish
craggy pilot
did anyone get any proper use out of Tinker sockets? 🤔
torpid burrow
does anyone have any tips for p2 of liu in temple
i havent done tojs this week, but last week as soon as she starts casting her strike i would Ignore pain and then instantly back up so my back or sides were never to her giving me plenty of time to get out of wave.
wide dragon
Hey dudes, Any good talents builds for a warrior tanking Heroic Diurnia on boss?
torpid burrow
i havent done tojs this week, but last week as soon as she starts casting her st...
also if i have it up spell reflect combined with ignore pain
fallow osprey
Hey dudes, Any good talents builds for a warrior tanking Heroic Diurnia on boss?
I liked taking Defenders Aegis so that I had a shield walll whenever three eggs were broken
Idk if optimal
shrewd fractal
can i quickly check in m+, shield slam is higher prio than revenge (even if you cap rage?)
craggy pilot
if you cap rage you IP and then SS
if you SS at 100% rage, youre doing something wrong
royal rune
any easy legs or feet to get from world or M+? they are my last blues
oh and the trinket
shrewd fractal
if you SS at 100% rage, youre doing something wrong
thats what i figured cheers
warm plinth
can i quickly check in m+, shield slam is higher prio than revenge (even if you ...
Use the macro in the pins and replace your IP button with it
That way it'll dump an IP and then SS at the same time
tulip egret
is there somewhere to see bis items?
forest tulip
what's y'all's tank alts?
rancid urchin
sub rogue
restive canopy
Sniping heals with after the wildfire on bear is pretty fun, all the joy of stealing hps on prot pal x4
wanton shale
for NO last boss, is the wall/fence to the very left of that area a good place to tank him so it's easy to bait the Iron Spear ability into the wall?
slim dove
theres a rock on the left side.
idk if it got hotfixed this week but you bait him into running into it
wanton shale
you bait the spear right behind the rock and he doesn't even reach the wall?
slim dove
yeah
wanton shale
damn wish i knew that before just wiping and missing timer lol, will test it soon thx
slim dove
and CCing adds during intermission is the go-to on higher keys in pugs
poly/blind/sigil/imprison
wanton shale
we assign kicks so they're locked out and clump together to cleave? or hard CC's as soon as they spawn
you do hard CC's and focus one at a time?
tender cove
what's y'all's tank alts?
prot pala. Very very close second to warrior in terms of everything for me, specially "fun factor". I'd even give the edge to pally in a few scenarios.
slim dove
we assign kicks so they're locked out and clump together to cleave? or hard CC'...
you can assign kicks and stops but in pugs it doesn't usually work out too well.
hard cc 2, kill other 2, safe and ez
wanton shale
ahh yea we messed up a couple kicks lol gonna go for the hard CC one next time
neon fossil
Guys, I'm suffering to manage the Kokia Blazehoof. Once the inferno is killed, I am literally getting raped.
tender cove
im watching plka stream and it looked like the dragon ate the stags? but not sure
is that a thing?
neon fossil
I think the rotation of my cooldowns is off. Can anyone give me some advice for it?
rotund cliff
im watching plka stream and it looked like the dragon ate the stags? but not sur...
Yeah it buffs the dragon and it's an achievement aswell lol
mellow quartz
I think the rotation of my cooldowns is off. Can anyone give me some advice for ...
Wall, external, wall, LS+shout, wall
compact jackal
Yeah it buffs the dragon and it's an achievement aswell lol
ez bonus %
tender cove
Yeah it buffs the dragon and it's an achievement aswell lol
interesting
mellow quartz
If dwarf then dwarf
mellow quartz
ez bonus %
They are like 0.3% count each
Better pulling the 4 pack from inside out through the portal and fighting them with the dragon
rotund cliff
I think it makes him do 10% more DMG each one? Might give 10% more health I forgot
sleek flax
hi
forest tulip
Guys, I'm suffering to manage the Kokia Blazehoof. Once the inferno is killed, I...
idk what + youre doing. i just did it on +5. i kept kiting him around the whole ring to avoid the lava
mellow quartz
idk what + youre doing. i just did it on +5. i kept kiting him around the whole ...
He is talking abt the dot the tank hit leaves
forest tulip
ohhhhhh
tender cove
It ticks like 100k per second on like a +14
sleek flax
where can i find best talents for m+12+13+14 on tyranicall
mellow quartz
Pins work
Would play the HR build over the ITF builds on Tyr if your haste is not high enough to sustain SB uptime on long Tyr fights with ITF.
mellow quartz
Many things in the pins so yeah seem like it
neon fossil
I mean in relation to teh boss
mellow quartz
All the builds there work. Don’t need a specific boss one.
Use the double wall talent
limpid pawn
for the engy rez bracers
what is the difference between rank 2 rez module and rank 3?
mellow quartz
Would assume failure chance but not sure
compact mortar
What will you guys do with your third Spark? I was thinking going Frostfire Belt or just regular haste/vers belt. I have 418 lariat and 418 primal molten defender already
tender cove
What will you guys do with your third Spark? I was thinking going Frostfire Belt...
I crafted sword
sleek flax
where are the pins?
compact mortar
I crafted sword
The Spellbane Cutlass or Strike Twice just seem so much better though
tender cove
The Spellbane Cutlass or Strike Twice just seem so much better though
I did it cuz I wanted to be arms loot spec and not think about it.
Its also a new spark next week and still way to go for catalyst
mortal brook
for NO last boss, is the wall/fence to the very left of that area a good place t...
that fence is close to where he despawns. got knocked through the stupid wall and he followed last week >.>
mellow quartz
If you wanna bait the charge somewhere bait it into the rock top left.
It’s for dps to do though. Not the tank.
steady steppe
can anyone explain what tf this means
how is the patrol walking to this evoker my fault
steady steppe
idk patrol in jade serpent
mellow quartz
So in the 3rd boss room
steady steppe
yea the sha
forest tulip
what M+ should i be fine with a 377 ilvl
steady steppe
i pulled it to the wall
mellow quartz
what M+ should i be fine with a 377 ilvl
15’s if you have people who will take you (which pugs won’t)
forest tulip
wait, are you serious?
mellow quartz
It’s doable, not saying it’s easy
Especially doable if you have high ilvl healer and dps
You can definitely do 10’s
compact mortar
might need to swap stances a lot doing 15s at 377
mellow quartz
The less experience you have the lower the key as well
forest tulip
got declined for two +8 NOs in a row 😦
tender cove
got declined for two +8 NOs in a row 😦
You are pretty far behind the pug curve with 377 gear wise. You're gonna have to run your own key 100%
warm plinth
what WA is announcing the runes in halls?
It's littlewigs
mellow quartz
got declined for two +8 NOs in a row 😦
Run you own keys. No pugs will accept you at that ilvl
forest tulip
y'all are right
tender cove
It's littlewigs
do i need to enable some setting, dont think i've ever heard it
warm plinth
I don't think it's supported in voice. But you can go in and emphasize it or attach a sound to it if you want
by default it's just text
mellow quartz
Might be bigwigs voice
warm plinth
I have bigwigs voice and it doesn't announce it
mellow quartz
Dunno, I just look at the icon 🤷♂️
split eagle
Any advice tanking first boss of rlp in terms of rotating defensive CDs/reflecting? I was tanking a 20 and got absolutely destroyed by frozen shard
mellow quartz
Have spell reflect and use SR liberally
tender cove
Dunno, I just look at the icon 🤷♂️
ye same but I dunno, it sounded pretty nice having it announced.
forest tulip
so im doing my own +4 NO key. anything i should be looking for when accepting people? or does it not matter since its a low lvl key?
split eagle
I spell reflected whenever
forest tulip
alright!
split eagle
But on spell reflect down time I still take alot of dmg
thick ore
spell block?
mellow quartz
Run double wall and spell block and spam the shit out of IP
past gyro
saw the top m+ warr was running haste/crit on everything isntead of haste/vers, crit actually outperforming vers?
tender cove
so im doing my own +4 NO key. anything i should be looking for when accepting pe...
Its bit 2 edged sword. Obvs you want to increase your chances of success but it also won't matter much, if at all for under 10s
And at that level of gear/io? Nothing will be a guarantee anyhow. Like 100or 1000 io or 1 or 10 runs. It will all be the same caliber of players.
Far as nice things to have? I like to have cookies from warlock.
split eagle
I ran out of CDs by the end of the fight running the standard build of spell block and double walls
And got twoshotted
Quite
Don't know how people do higher
mellow quartz
Sounds like you ran out of rage to spend on IP
inland raft
Gotta be less revenge happy sometimes
mellow quartz
I save CDs for when I run low on rage usually
On that fight
Most tank damage is in between the adds spawning. Not during.
You running barbaric training or no?
split eagle
past gyro
new to prot warr, is it like classic where if u crit u get double rage?
mellow quartz
Less rage to IP and proc SS resets
split eagle
Right Im gonna try taking that out for another healing talent
quiet crane
I ran out of CDs by the end of the fight running the standard build of spell blo...
Make sure to run avatar makes you shield wall etc
mellow quartz
Healing talents won’t make you live or die.
Just run spell block and double wall and no barb training.
split eagle
Helps the healer during suction phase
quiet crane
Sit in defensive stance use SR liberally and spell block keep IP up and dump with that over revenge
split eagle
Ok
quiet crane
That boss is our hard counter on higher tyrannical
It also comes down to your group composition the type of healer you have and how strong the dmg is
Eventually there’s nothing you can do 2:30 onwards Youel die
boss had to die by then
has
mellow quartz
Not really lol
inland raft
Healer and tank are a team you cant expect to have somethint on your own every time theres party cds that should he utilized
slim dove
go tank it as bear lol
mellow quartz
Talking first in RLP
slim dove
ah
tender cove
Eventually there’s nothing you can do 2:30 onwards Youel die
might vary for high keys but i dont think my groups have ever been that fast xD
split eagle
I mwith a druid healer
slim dove
pre sure only bdk deals with it better
quiet crane
Druid should be fine?
split eagle
I do asked for xternals when Im juiced
mellow quartz
If you can’t live beyond 2:30 you are doing something wrong.
quiet crane
you have access to external and a shit ton of healing via him
past gyro
how often in m+ are prots sititng in battle stance?
quiet crane
Just remember it’s not just on you but also him
past gyro
are we that tanky we dont need prot stance?
quiet crane
are we that tanky we dont need prot stance?
Rarely need it
split eagle
Yea I guess probably I have to properly use my CDs
inland raft
Def stance is for tank busters
past gyro
woah
mellow quartz
how often in m+ are prots sititng in battle stance?
All depends on your gear, affixes and key level etc
quiet crane
most don’t hit a level it needs to be used. But yes stance dancing is a very good habit to learn
quiet crane
might vary for high keys but i dont think my groups have ever been that fast xD
With just?
Lust?
You shouldn’t be hitting 3 min and above
past gyro
im about to craft a gear should i make it haste/vers or haste/crit, curious bec top warrior was running crit
but wowhead says vers :x
tender cove
are we that tanky we dont need prot stance?
if you need it, you need it, if you dont, you dont, far as sitting in it permanent? Go on feeling. Dont go "I have too be in this" or you might end up punishing Your group for no reason
mellow quartz
You shouldn’t be hitting 3 min and above
On a 5 or a 25? Context matters lol
quiet crane
If you’re good luck. you’re probably ain’t making second boss
mellow quartz
Can’t just make random statements
quiet crane
Higher keys sorry 20+
i thought this was in relation to her comment about a 20
it wasn’t random
past gyro
if you need it, you need it, if you dont, you dont, far as sitting in it permane...
ty! ❤️
inland raft
im about to craft a gear should i make it haste/vers or haste/crit, curious bec ...
Im partial to vers, crit is more damage though, vers helps with bleeds and magic damage
lone eagle
pwar has better tools to handle first boss of RLP than most tank specs
only tanks probably better at it are VDH and BDK
mellow quartz
Higher keys sorry 20+
Boss took 2min 50s in a random 20 I did last week on fort. Dunno how you do under 2:30 on Tyr.
past gyro
Im partial to vers, crit is more damage though, vers helps with bleeds and magic...
ok ty for the reply, i think i will try haste/crit
just because vers is the most boring stat to ever exist
mellow quartz
No stat besides haste is ‘interesting’
past gyro
is there any other scaling with crit that prot has other than causing more parry and damage?
deep isle
Hello, question: I'm using 2 piece tempest. It's 385 and gives 340 secondary stat as set bonus. It's consistently simming higher than any 392/395 pieces I try to replace with. Should I just use the higher ilvl pieces to add to my defensives? I don't really know how to tell how much surv I give up by using lower ilvl items
past gyro
like deep wounds procs off crit only?
past gyro
No stat besides haste is ‘interesting’
ya but vers doesnt even try lmao
tender cove
You shouldn’t be hitting 3 min and above
I just checked my 14 and 15. It went about 3 minutes.
urban portal
is there any other scaling with crit that prot has other than causing more parry...
no
crit just does damage
urban portal
ya but vers doesnt even try lmao
vers is actually relatively interesting
because it amp ALL damage
meaning it amps trinkets and other forms of borrowed power
past gyro
true
urban portal
theres also some funny interaction with IP
past gyro
most borrowed power items can crit though also yeah?
visual hamlet
on Sennarth, can you charge back in during gossamer and not get pulled off?
past gyro
how often do you guys use intimidating shout in mythics?
urban portal
its good as an aoe kick
past gyro
them running around though isnt terrifying?
urban portal
its gonna get broken instantly
forest tulip
HOW DOES MY MW GO OOM IN A SINGLE BOSS FIGHT
tender cove
wait what
he just jumped off the circle platform in azure and down to the 2nd boss 😮
so you just skip both those levels?
or do you have to clear it later?
civic fox
Am I missing something with the pinned stance dance macro? It only seems to activate defensive stance, not actually toggle between the two.
tender cove
Am I missing something with the pinned stance dance macro? It only seems to acti...
works for me
tender cove
xD
wintry jetty
my heart hoped you'd say "to gladiator stance" as a statement 🥲
reef holly
are we that tanky we dont need prot stance?
I think the answer to this question is: depends on the group. I don’t have a dedicated group and I will say that I have the most success in pugs when I stay in defensive stance. Gives the healer one less person to worry about it honestly.
urban portal
are we that tanky we dont need prot stance?
the general consensus yes
but there is a key level where you should be in dstance
prisma crane
but there is a key level where you should be in dstance
if you watch the top end key pushers, they arent sitting in D stance
fickle rose
and know most tanks have a super tanky build for higher keys
prisma crane
its not much different than a dmg build
reef holly
if you watch the top end key pushers, they arent sitting in D stance
Yes but they are probably playing with people that know how to play 😄
prisma crane
even then it doesnt matter
prisma crane
if you know how to play, you dont need D stance all the time
even if the healer is shit
fickle rose
its not much different than a dmg build
what would you take ? is there a link to the super tank build some where in the discord
prisma crane
not saying you're bad, just trying to illustrate that we're incredibly strong w/o D stance
prisma crane
what would you take ? is there a link to the super tank build some where in the ...
M+ or raid?
fickle rose
m+