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Ghash your mastery % has everything to do with the price of eggs.
holy christ this guy is dense
Please show me where I said mastery was king
he never said mastery is king, hes telling you to follow the sims for an improvement, literally your own sims are telling you what you should do
Mastery increases attackpower, you have to little in relation to the other stats so it will increase your dps the most. Once you get more gear, it will shift again.
I just don't understand why you would ask a question in this Discord, then bicker with a handful of people because they agree with the sim. That's foolish. π€£
My warrior is not geared but these are my stats rn
Funny story, you can stack some mastery and resim and it'll probably tell you go with vers or crit
Im 33% mastery, should i begin my route to r1 or uninstal?
because they didnt give him the answer he wanted
Its like 2,3k
because our stats are all so close that it's generally just best to follow the priority
Please partake in TGP.
thats the weird thing, we gave him both answers but he just doesnt like them lol
Honestly, Juicy, mastery is a trap stat. You should go haste.
at that point people like that are beyond help
Ill try my best bust most likely wont make it past qualification as there is nobody that will stick in key with me on 30s xd
some of the top prot warriors are running less than 1.5k mastery... Yet, they arent stacking mastery due to having so little.
Oh god, the top prot warrior argument
I watch Liquid clear Mythic, so that must mean I can clear mythic! POG
Sense has half the haste than me but he still performs infintely better. explain plz
Plka once cleared a #1 prot key using never surrender
some people are just different that way, i doubt much of anything, talents, stats etc matters too much to them.
"built different"
Proper gearing pads vs bad gameplay...
i didnt wanna fking say it xD
Like, I'll never understand how Firedup is so great at mage. Man is cut from a different cloth.
418 Haste / mastery cloak, 418 haste / crit cloak, or 421 dragon games equipment (lol no)?

Dragon games is kickball?
i wish i could link that meme with skill distrubtion and "just pressing buttons" dammit, would have been perfect now
Can't sim survivability
You on the wrong tank
if you worried about that stat
And yeah, it's the kickball trinket
kicking balls at your enemies is hilarious
killing shit faster = higher chance of survival
I don't think I've ever worried about survivability. I'm either going to live or I'm going to die. That's it.
All I need to do is press the right buttons at the right time and I win.
Kickball does a lot of damage
i subscribe to the "kill them before they kill you" survivability
Kickball is also buggy in my experience
Yeah
Kind of useless since half the time the balls don't move
But I think almost every sim situation is going to be DPS. I think QE does a great job at simming for healers, but I don't think there's much like that for tankiness. It's just a matter of play, but the same can be said for healing.
So, I would personally not take that trinket, but it would depend on the ilvl increase on the other two options.
The mobs cannot hurt me if they are dead.
I have a 392 dragon games and it does 133k per cast
That's not terrible
and it's not hard at all to kick the balls
It isn't always kickable
Idk I guess I didn't see that happen. Mine all hit 3 times
especially if the boss's hitbox is huge or you have avatar active
So while I wait on a better trinket to drop, I have a question. Does Lifeflame Ampoule trigger Seal?
haste crit cloak
Plus, I have decoration of flame already, and if I want to run dual on-use, I'd run the CoS windscar whetstone.
in my 3rd group for the day waiting for a healer, yay...
if it does fire damage, then yes. But god I hope you replace that piece of garbage soon
I have Horn of Valor and Puzzle Box. I wish I had something other than Puzzle Box. :l
the game will not stop throwing lifeflame ampoules at me
Me too. It's that or kickball and I've also found it to be buggy
I'm currently using a 398 kickball and 402 decoration of flame :|
anyone doing mythic sennarth experiencing dcs?
Want Granyth's trinket (for tankiness) or CoS trinket (for DPS)
Gonna spam some CoS 20s to replace my 372 boots, ring, and poopoo trinket
20s are jiga easy
do i have troll teammates? im struggling 18s with premade grps π€
Is the unstable frostfire belt worth getting for pwar?
not troll just bad ones
like if you say 20s is a breeze, you must have giga dps people
Just popped on after getting my Lariat to see what gems is best, obviously some debate lmao
pugs are good in high keys
I mean, I just missed +20 algethar timed last week and I only had a 372 shield
but still
Crafted 418 this week since I got shit from vault
i feel im tryharding in +17s
full pug
I know man lol
no way i can spam +17s and just enjoy life
to every mechanic
sounds like my +14 just now
Mostly sim to compare what gems are better
after I finish dung
the thing I love the most is locks
1 they never have affix weak aura
2 they always get hit by frontals and live it
like im doing +12 COS just to chill while i farm ring
but man this is some weird shit
DK was offline half the dung
just feel my heart pounding constantly when im in "push mode"
so doing +18s all day long is kinda yikes for me
What phial are you guys using for pushing higher keys?
my server kinda slow today though i guess
insane
WHERE ARE U BRO
hi , sorry for off-topic , how much ilvl worth for leech items ?
oh u put in cos
I mean, even on tyra weeks?
yes
really can i know any resources abt that ?
150 strenght is prob only a bit worse than 740 vers
Hm, alright
nah brah leech is jiga
ilvl > leech
I'd say leech is worth a few ilvls
I'd say 3 or 6 ilvl worth
But not more than 4-5 ilvls perhaps
depends on stats as well
Y
Leech is 100% not worth ilvl
so ilvl is king
Most of your leech is from talents anyway
stop trolling the new guy plz
nah brah leech is jiga
i have 25.5% leech and wanna sure how much ilvl worth
% high could be because he doesnt press IP π
also how is ur Indom below ur Leech?
are u not spending rage π€
Brah
Leech ain't worth ilvl
my indom is also below leech
ok , when i play Brewmonk i found something abt leech in Equinox's guide
that's why im asking
equinox has always giga leech as well
Brew isn't warrior.
Does Defensive Stance increase threat gen?
maybe because it works well with the Stagger π€
no

u dont know how siqshy brm is
getting 10% leech for free has tricked people into thinking that getting a tiny trickle on an item makes it worth 20 more ilvls
Leech works better on Brew than any other tank because of stagger
people being 380 ilvl "but i have 35% leech bro" 
No one is saying anything about Brew's tankiness
nah i m 406 π
wasnt saying you
yeah it make sense
but you asked for "ilvl drop"
ilvl is king on pwar
str >> secondary stats > leech > tertiary stats
something like that
I disagree
yeah i am think abt using more ilvl off-pieces from mythic
Str>leech>secondaries
leech over haste? 
Yeah, on any piece except ring/neck
as prot is there any way we can utilize this? or no fire damage
trinkets + frostfire belt
can proc it
When using the Primal Ritual Shell, is it better to use fire for the damage or wind for the mastery? Fire sims higher for dps but I don't know enough about prot if that trumps the mastery increase from wind for the critical blocking and whatnot
what trinkets recommend? decoration of flame?
Yup, get the crafted frostfire belt. It'll proc the ring at almost full potsntial
thanks for the info guyss, btw can i know is there any recourse or guide about leech ?
Wow head guide has a good list
i have the frostfire belt, now when do i get the ring boys?
Not that I know of
But count on leech as about 1.5hps/1leech
Or 100leech=about 1% of your overall healing give or take
Haste is absolutely important, but the other stats aren't that bad either. I'd say leech is more worth as long as you have a decent amount of haste/versea on the rest of your gear in case the leech item has other stats
i mean i wouldnt drop ilvl on a ring to gain leech
but sounds like thats what you would
idk
im tired
off to bed π΄
done the weekly timewalking yet?
maybe get lucky π
i did, got cloak
meh
got the ring on my Alt ofc
classic ^^
but didnt do HC yet this week
so maybe π€
does anyone run Overwhelming Rage in high keys?
me
anyone taking shockwave or disrupting shout for H raz? trying to help out with interrupt part
returning from a while, intimidating shout is valuable cc now? dont have to worry about fear pulling mobs or?
shit bro, i didnt read the last part @craggy pilot xd
like how troll is this? π
im taking off Intimidating shout, shockwave, storm bolt, and Pain and Gain
seems omega troll, but more dam
i have ran that. Shockwave is nice but its not that gamebreaking if the dps have brain
fear should break insta in any grp that has any sort of dmg
gotcha, ty
maybe ill try it out
see how much more dps i do with it
its nice, i like the shorter cd for roar
feels like you have it up almost everytime you need
does Dragon Roar line nicely with Uproar? i feel like its perfect with Demo Shout without Uproar π€
and maybe ill swap Show of Force for Sudden Death
more Prio dmg
and boss dmg
and OR is pretty nice, its a crutch and all that but I feel like it helps to manage rage quite nicely but obvs im not running high keys nor I am particularly pro π
one point in OR i can see, the second over storm bolt seems unnecessary to me
does spell block work on lasher poison in agelthar?
Spell Block doesn't work on DoTs
unfortunate π¦
shouldnt need it anyway with proper dps
lol is this the new play on Umbrelskul? π€£
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yeah, was getting to 50 stacks and getting destroyed, wish there was a potion to cleanse poisons lol
didn't have a poison cleanse in the group
pop Shield Wall
and ur good
if the adds die fast enough
50+ stacks sounds normal tbh
hmm. was still getting dropped with shield wall, and double AoE stuns on em. I thought we were dpsing solidly. But could just be that we're not bursting at the right time
did you get cleansed the Thorn debuff?
tbh I feel like going in there without a poison cleanse is kinda throwing
forgot the name
which classes? druid only?
Druid, Monk, Paladin, Evoker
Shaman with poison cleanse totem
but I don't think they take that by default so
you'd have to check
45sec CD
can u have that for every phase then?
fuck thats giga tech tbh
forgot Shamans have poison cleanse totem haha
ima tell my r-sham premade
thats probably even the best dispel there is, since it dispels auto every 1sec
why am i so stoked to do Academy suddenly
all this tech i learned π€£
It should be up for every instant lasher spawn
ye exactly
thats giga
i will take 0 dmg
recommended shaman talent tree for Academy is this π€£
1 point can be easily moved to poison totem here obv
Just timed a 15 RLP to get that 2K score for my first season mythic plus tanking. Got a lot of great tips and tricks from this discord thanks to all.
how badly do i want 4 pc? Better to get 4 piece by wearing normal legs, or keep 2 piece and have
are you kiting around the top ring?
You can slowly move the boss around that entire top ring
to spread out the fire pools
No, none of the damage you're taking in that image is avoidable.
im just getting wrecked by the dot
Just rotate defensives for it
i ran out of em
Prayge for more heals
its really all you can do
You can be perfect with your defensives, but if your healer isnt keeping up, you're gonna die sooner or later
I always hate healing that fight
its a bit more bearable as monk since Im constantly able to heal and move but it still sucks
i play with an rsham assuming that's not the best fight for them either
what is the highest ilvl the weekly shit can give you? trials, feast, siege etc
Seen 402 once from the siding the accord chest on a 360 ilvl alt, otherwise my toons get 372 or so from most of it, only one guildy has seen a 402 once as well.
was thinking of skipping them this week and also never seen anything above 382 myself
Was it like a "proc" similar to how things still titanforge from quests?
my last 2 accords have been 382 garbo
Resto shaman is really struggling right now, that fight is probably their worst nightmare.
Do vault rewards stick around for weeks if you can't claim them in the reset week? or gone?
cool ty
Nope no weapon specialisations
so no drawback to make 1h axe?
cuz its only one I found for 2 days that can make 1h wep T5
As long as itβs 1h and strength youβre good to go
When dealing with aoe do you thunderclap a lot or just revenge your little heart out?
Wowhead says not to revenge as much (Thunder Clap - Shield Slam - Thunder Clap - Revenge - Repeat) but im losing threat if I don't have cooldowns up so I'm revenging my nipples off. Is that the wrong move?
Yes, keep your nipples.
When you're doing a big big pull and bloodsurge is driving your rage through the roof it can be ok to start skipping shield slams in avatar
Hey, i have a
And i have this too. Upgradable, not bis stats, but has leech. What you guys think about it ?
Leech seems kinda big
if you have the valor to increase the ilvl then why not
Yeah, but question is, does it worth to sacrifice vers and a little bit of haste
for leach
crit is good too, and cloaks are kind of a cheap upgrade
So I dont want to skip thunderclaps?
in aoe? not really, it's good damage now and generates rage and keeps rend rolling
more rage gen gets you to avatar faster too
and show of force is buffing it
ill say when you giga pull, you spam like 3 revenge for one tc
It's better to generate rage and spend it on OGCD abilities like Ignore Pain (which itself generates healing threat) than to not generate Rage
Especially if you are running Unstoppable Force/Booming Voice/Thunderlord talent combo
Ignore pain generating threat is new to me, thank you
what if ip is capped though do you still do it? Like just for the seething rage?
Im noticing alot more people using Fueled by Violence than Brutal Vitality. With the nerf to BV should we be using FbV?
are we supposed to never have 2 stack of block? laways keep one rolling?
unless its an intermission
wat if i have block up with charge?
But there isnt every a point where you dont want to have SB up if you are actively tanking
even off tanking sb is a dps increase for shield slam
and it stacks up to 24s baseline so why not use it?
ok just making sure thanks
Block applications stack to 3 times the baseline duration (so 18s, or 24s with Enduring Defences)
its my number 1 priority rage dump unless if it is going to cap which is nearly impossible unless if i run bolster or something
Bolster also breaks the rules and adds its bonus Shield Block over and above that cap
The only time I won't use Shield Block when I'm at or approaching 2 charges is when I have enough Shield Block to get to the end of the fight already and am in Execute range
Which is why I like to keep my Shield Block duration pretty high for most of the fight; so I can then switch to Rage dumping into Execute
I don't even bother tracking the cap of Ignore Pain any more
In My OPinion FbV works better in M+, and BrV in Single-Target Raid fights
spending rage is a powerful thing to do even for no actual benefit from the spell
so even a tiny fraction of an IP is worth pressing rather than wasting rage
This. Ignore Pain is a button that reduces my Avatar & Shield Wall CDs by 3.5s and regenerates 1% of my HP... and happens to give me Ignore Pain as well
is the 2nd RLP boss tank bleed dispellable?
Dunno, ask an Evoker or a Dwarf
But min maxing IP - Revenge. It still worth monitoring to see if IP or Revenge should be utilized.
not really
every GCD that's not TC or SS should be Revenge
IP is off GCD and therefore cast as well when needed
More DPS or wasting rage on an IP which is already capped. Yea okay mate
Nah. You use Revenge if you have a GCD available for it, and you use Ignore Pain to prevent overcapping
The limiting factor on Revenge is not Rage; it is GCD availability
hmm Okay, I see what you're saying
Because Shield Slam, Thunderclap and Demo Shout all take priority
I use Ignore Pain because I need to dump Rage
You can (and should) have that crafted ring upgraded
also with the gem it has more Haste
I don't think I can upgrade that ring.. its a matrix one
Oh, I thought it was an upgradable one...
Not a spark one, no
What's your current stat array look like?
20 ilvls has got to be worth it
That ring gave me like 7% vers 
14% Vers... so you must have around 3k Vers rating, you can afford to lose a bit of that
I'm def not trying to stack vers, just some bad drops.. have vers heavy shoulders, helm, etc
2K vers rating
Vers is still a decent stat, but I'm looking at your stat array and thinking it desperately needs more Haste
Yeah I agree, just having some bad luck with drops
Hence me considering if the 382 ring is better lol
It happens
Yeah... I mean, I'd keep hold of the 402, you never know when you might replace your other Vers pieces, but Jewelry pieces are the ones where downgrading ilvls to get better secondaries is viable, because they don't carry Primary Stat
I have no real tier pieces so a lot of that will change next couple weeks
Hopefully get rid of helm and craft 418 belt next week
haste isn't so far ahead that you'd drop over 100 total stats for a bit more haste imo
A gem socket with a rank 3 gem in is worth, what... 12 ilvls of secondaries on a ring?
when should i be enchanting / gemming my gear? im ilvl 377.5
whenever you're not replacing gear near constantly and want to be stronger in the stuff you're currently doing
Always Enchant and Gem. It's acceptable to use Rank 1/2 enchants on anything that you don't think you'll be using for a long time
you can also buy cheaper rank 1s and 2s, yeah
Or cheaper blue enchants, that's fine too
gems are pretty cheap except the mainstat ones
i feel like im always gnna be replacing cus im still at +5 mythic and im sure i can get to +10 once i keep playing these dungeon and memorize the routes
The rank 1 and 2s are cheap
i can but i still feel like i have lots to learn about routes and optimization so i dont want to go into the deep end. just today, i figured out in Azure Vault that you can skip a pack by not waking up the patrol whelps
lol yeah, that's a core mechanic of that dungeon xD
so buy the stuff on the right side? are those "rank 2" enchants?
Rank two meaning there are recipes for each enchant that are ranks 1-3
is it the quality: bronze, silver, gold?
The price premium for rank 3 vs rank 1 or 2 can be extreme
Look at sophic devotion on the AH for example
Yes
okay thanks
@limber python Did you have SB up? With ignore pain capped and SB you should of been fine. You can use LS if your not full HP or SW to survive.
i dont think i did but i thought shield block only applied to auto attack
but ignore pain was capped and was still a 1shot
Do you keep those guys together? Iβm not good at navigating.. but how many stacks of the buff did he have at the time?? That could be why he hit you so hard
Do I want intim shout on H Rasz?
You need to keep them together x_x
Trying to think of what use it has
Their stacks should never even get close to that high
Thatβs what killed you.. I didnβt know how to navigate to find that, but I figured thatβs the only way you got hit that high
they do more dmg apart?
Yes, they get a buff that stacks every 1 second, 10% more damage per stack
must of beenthe brown shit sparating them
i was kiting him slow cuz
i thought he was critting my back
Mobs don't crit just because your back is to them. At worst you wouldn't be able to block/dodge/parry
that to me is critting XD
But yeah as soon as the spirit leap shows on the ground, move to it
The leap doesn't deal damage, so just move to it immediately and you'll minimize the time they spend apart
ty
what chest enchant u guys use
mythic kurog, do we have to do anything special to eat the add puddles?
Finally got that one hander from the academy, anyone spent valor on that? Thinking of pumping it up
stats
love how a 15 rlp this week is still harder then a 20 shadowmoon
What's the best way to deal with Searing Wounds on Kokia Blazehoof?
double wall
How do i find dps that will do more damage than me and survive the first round of boss mechanics 
Shield Wall?
Dreamland.
Check their logs
I can have it up for like every other, but hot damn that shit hurts on high high keys
Clench butthole
use defensives
Pretty much what I'm doing lol
yes, play defender's aegis
I mean rotating a bark, SW, LS
I use spell reflect + spell block for first, shield wall second, spell reflect 3rd
Does spell block even work
damn
Considering itβs a bleed
well lucky i survived then LOL
Yeah I knew SR didn't work
I think rotating CDs is enough for her, No need for Double wall No?
double shield wall seems to be best
just play aegis
On tyran 20s, that shit gapes
@ionic fern hi ily
Even with SW I'm dying
That fight is a huge healer check
That's honestly the best advice tbh
dang didnt realize that was a bleed
no wonder that shit hurts
Good evening Ghash. Done more dungeons?
No just the one still. I am gonna do more over the weekend for sure
just run like a little bitch and then she can't touch you, amirite
what could go wrong
Can you outrange it?
to our graves only
π
well considering its a stack every hit
Most boss tankbusters are like 100 yd range or some range that it's impossible to outrange it
She hits it no matter what
crit gang ftw
i stack what robot tells me
Beeing far away really hurts bc no rage build thus no ip kek
lol luerce
I am the robot line of code who executes based on input.
damn, mwahi's overworked at raidbots smh
It makes me think of AMR
i don't even pay him
yeah
I gotchu.
yeah but maybe it'll make you feel better idk
ngl it did the same to me Ghash
π
TBH
OHNO
AMR had/has some really solid information.
π
With articles.
π
π
gf
lmao im fine, never feel threatened once. Everyone else not so much
same
Now it's too far up.
mwahi how dare you
The average person only looks -1 from their own message.
DS doesn't work on the bleed either does it
man it took me so long to realize what AMR's acronym was it's been so long since I thought about that site
i never used it, either, so
Actually true.
10/10 true
nah it's so much creepier than whispering now man
the lick microphone people
What?
I saw one come across my tiktok and she was playing with some kind of ooze that was all over her microphone and I was like what in the actual fuck
lol
the ear licking game, mwahi, keep up with the times
It made very disturbing noises
people pay the monies for that
There's so much revolting information here.
I know 
lol
Tiktok is great for killing time
Know what else is great for killing time?
a gun
Analysing your logs and arguing with people on warrior discord.
also beer
I do that too; I'm a multitasker
Did you see the huge argument I got into earlier about vers
yeah that's like half my free time tbh
π
No.
i even do it while at work
I was ready to fight
wait i didnt
He said you had to stack vers to do 20s
HELL JEAH.
They said stack vers because you need it do 20s because the rank 2 warrior stacks vers
And I said no you don't, and he said try to do a 21 RLP without it, and so I found logs where people had like 3% and was like man idk how the hell they did it.
i didn't even check who they were talking about
its 500% of the time
Nerf's fucking fault
every single time
Leech gang?
Nerftank
Versa?
Nerftank
Also there was the other guy that got upset because mastery was his highest simming stat
anytime i see "X rated player does this" as an argument point, I just kinda glaze over
Let the man enjoy the game. 
18% leech gang
daily reminder that Nerftank couldnt fucking keep banner up for more than 30 seconds last season
He was wondering what gem to put in his lariat and said that mastery was simming best, so we told him to use the mastery gem
And he got really mad
Just agree
oh i missed the getting mad part
Let them fail miserably.
Then they come back.
And then you tell them "See, if you read the pins and noticed what was said before, you would have been fine".
Let them prove themselves wrong.

nah, they don't come back
Okay, BUT
Even better.
his kid is cute af
On average, most of the people come in here to shout for their self-esteem and then don't ever come back
Like me.
I'm here for validation, idk why you guys are here
Like, most of the people I blocked during the starting time period of DF have stopped posting here
I wiped the raid on 3% Rasz yesterday cause i forgot to use a defensive on the last phase.
Please tell me i'm good.
And i did good.
i can tell because i can see the chat here
which it was
Oh he's back
yup confirmed
Show me.
Hi Juicy
its 500% nerf
We missed you β€οΈ
When we throwing our massive axe during the raz encounter? When boss does the charging thing and has a shield, when raid gets the two marks. What add/adds also get a shield you can toss your axe at?
quick glance at rio
you... you mean ravager?
nerftank 15% versa

why is fire haste mastery ring bis for warprot already
cheat engine
That's a thing of beauty right
Are you talking about Wrecking/Shattering throws? Cause if you are..you shouldn't need it on Rasz o.o
Wrecking throw
What dungeon was that.
Nokhud
Plka = 7% versa
Plka confirmed cheat engine user smh
would you trust the tank that gets carried by his teams and that couldnt keep banner for more than 10% more than its base duration?
I didn't set up anything, and I haven't touched prot since BFA. I had no idea where my buttons were. I forgot about ravager like dozens of times
Thought wrecking throw is used in raz encounter for good dps . Cause thereβs shield opportunities
or the other tried and proven warriors
And I was still in only revenge when it's free mode
Somehow
I did really well π
what do i have to use in order to do good use of fire ring
Yeah mine isn't way off at all
But hey, for my first prot dungeon in like 2 years, I'll take this
Frostfire belt.
get a decoration and/or belt
I've seen worse logs in here π
i have fang and other added thing already which one should i keep then
Actually solid, gj.
I'll take either tbh.

the haste mastery one
ew
I gotta mess with my WAs and I'll be fine
Is tier worth 23 ilvl on a helm?
for 2pc or 4pc?
2
i got a 405 with socket in vault i still dont know if i take it
Yeah
i can get 415 hands or 398 head tier piece
well its a free effect
but honestly
if we had to choose
the dmg one is clearly superior
its rare enough though
right
Poor mastery man
the toughest choices for my war
Getting the short end of the stick in this channel
These whipper snappers will never understand the glory of Bastion of Might
Shut up Nim!
ah yeah and my 398 tier piece has avoidance on it
but i do 'member
Havoc didn't take haste either but we had GIGAHOLYSHITHASTE
oi I know vers bad... but is ilvl king for ring in this case?
Good times
so like every of my choice have a huge upside and huge downside, ring is bad stats but still ilvl upgrade and socket and rare effect, tier piece is low ilvl but has avoidance (398) and i dont have this one, it would get me 3p, and hands are 415 and best stats but i takes a slot piece
BoM was chefKiss for sure though
Sir, no stat is bad. No bully
socket doe
vers isnt bad, nobody has said that
whats the equiv
Both but you should use the higher one
what are the best gems to take with your elemental lariat?
Actually hold on
Imagine using vers. What a pleb
I like vers, I feel comfy in my bubble wrap
Aight thank god, need all the help with ilvl I can get heh
vers is ok, stacking it for the sake of stacking because "nerf said so" or over other stats is not
Yeah I just have 20% haste so really need to juice it up again
It's almost like we care about more stats instead of "better" stats amirite
Need some tier asap
the pinned stat guidelines are still relevant and used
I got 2pc on my rogue; I'm very excited
what socket? 88 haste or the double haste + vers/crit?
i like horn of valor, is it bad if i choose to upgrade it
sims favor whetstone of hunger or even blazebinder
it just feels like its more good overall no? its a long last 30 sec of main stat
- constant 500 versatility
π€·
it feels good for pushing but am i in the wrong here
i use spark shield sword
If it "feels good" for you - play with it.
It's not the most optimal choice but it's definitely not horrible.
At the end of the day it's your decision, i personally wouldn't use valor on it.
i used it on my BiS gear so far, cloak ring
but i have more to use but no good item for it
lol
i have the boon
but idk
should i use it really?
dont worry mwahi i have absolute shit trinkets
blow your valor on random stuff you'll never use in an attempt to appease the rng lords in giving you a grieftorch
isn't rumbling ruby actually kinda decent for keys
i dunno i don't keep major track i just ask all mighty sims for my trinket decisions
playing boon feels so dangerous

ye
ok
ill upgrade my horn of valor
nah
ill try it tmrw
but it feels like ill die
AA +19
Pull 3 packs on the tree boss area
Gather up
Boon
GREEN CIRCLES OF DISORIENTATIONS

I still use it.
if you time it right, you'll get big number
Not really.
It's only some really specific packs which have ground effects.
hm
Has anyone tanked a TJS higher then a 15 and had problems with the 2nd boss? I can't seem to stay alive there...
Oh okay, One sec
Yes, 10 days ago.
Ez 2 chest.

I'm assuming Avatar doesn't break Boon's root huh

Like a minigame of "WILL THE HEALER NOTICE I'M TAKING HITS IN THE BACK OR NOT"
If we're being honest, it's none of the healer's business anyway
Or when you boon and the enemies decide to walk back like 1m.
And you can't use your SS on them anymore.
π
probably. first boss temple was acting wack as fuck for me today
water jet would move giga slow then speed up without warning
It's done that since week one.
Sometimes even dissapears.
π€·
guess i've just been avoiding the key since week 1 lol
Guess so.
What's the inverse?
Im guessing Right and then left.
Inverse - Santify and then Storm
I would guess anyways
What's the reasoning for that?
Not sure.
Damage reduction.
Hyrja gains stacks of damage for the ability she casts the longer she stays on one side.
@ionic fern is that because of how healer intensive the storm is where as sanctify is literally just a dodge only mechanic?
no
its so people swap sides
and dont just do dodges
storm has been healer intensive since legion
has nothing to do with damage stacks
as in, yes you will probably die on a high tyrannical having Hyrja on that side without any swaps
on the 2nd or 3rd storm
Ive just assumed the blast-thing was to be used to switch sides. Never thought of it as an option to just stand on one side
Dont the stacks gets reset when you switch? Or do they stay throughout the fight, so the logic is that you get less storm-phases if you start on right?
yes they reset
Then i must be misunderstanding what you are talking about, mb
well they dont really reset
they just fade out
i was just replying to the question
Yes, thanks π
Would like to know what 'inverse hyrja' means though
Maybe its something ive missed
they dont start left
they start right
at the orbs
usually we start at the storm side (left)
if you dont then you're doing inverse
And the reason is you start with sanctify to get less storm-phases?
I know its early, and im old, but i dont understand why it needs practice
i assume that's the case
Nice, then its isnt just me
it's possible that the storm is so bad that you literally need CDs for it each time
so he swaps as soon as the ability is about to hit
so you need to do a particular order so you get more sanctifies than storms
so you don't run out of CDs
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFTjUh3b/
After i watched this sanctify became a joke and i could scream at people who got killed
No, just simple explanation om how to dodge
her hitbox becomes double during it
As you just have to move 3 times to be safe
oh the patterns haha
I wish they saw their keyboard
Best thing is all the mages to tries to play arcane
On Fort I do double Storm and she's usually dead by that point
I wouldn't do that on Tyr though
Legion swap strat is bis on Hyrja 
hmm that searing blow on 2nd boss in rlp kills me without CDs. is that normal?
or is it a healer issue
without CDs? yes
damn

simply indom heal through it
it's so easy
that's only, what, thousands of rage in the span of a few seconds?
I noticed sometimes I get 2 stacks, sometimes I get all 4 though.
Is it possible to heroic leap out during the cast or did I get lucky parryβs or something?
also gotten the feeling i can leap out of it
parry
Is warrior prot set good enough to ignore ilvl?
you parried
Or its Ilvl on item prio
hence why you stack crit, obvs
BUT THAT 1% DR FROM VERS.
BUT THAT 100% FROM CRIT
Hello, how much Vers should I stack to notice it? 40% ?

what happened with the whelp trinket from being S to being so low?
i'm only farming m+ so thats why i cant have the raid trinkets atm
well fortunately for you there are better trinkets in keys
think it mightve been S on wowhead?
dont think any trinket has ever been S on wowhead
Then idk
yeah im not 100% on the S but i saw that it was decent enough
Which would be? Blazehoof and?
Running bone from SBG rn
or go like naowh with stormeaters boon π
To all who don't know, you can snap last boss AV into third boss arena with tricks
not from m+ π¦
hooves as well
And how ?
Gotta farm hunger of the pack, bone is not that good
Got rumbling ruby on too. Id like hunger and hoof tho
Why mememing? Boon is good
still a bit dangerous π¦
I've had 2 issues in a 20 and 21 TJS yesterday.
I don't understand Haunting Gaze. Why does this sometimes not even do damage and sometimes hit me for like 75% hp? This happens every dungeon, I do not understand it for the life of me.
Also, how do I live the 3rd boss. I use LS + SR, SW, SpB+SR and 4th one is external + cookie + HP pot. During this I sometimes just die, unless I use cookie/ pot in the first 3 sets. In the end, I just used hp pot and cookie during the first sets and was just soulstoned for the 4th.
Do you just use lust/CDs for the middle phase or how do you actually live this on higher keys?
saw a 23 yesterday and they lusted last boss
are you using impending victory as well?
yes
You should have that for like every other one
Yea CDs in jade phase 100%
The hardest part of the fight is probably getting your DPS to not burn CDs on pull
:/
U cant preemtivily use Ls
Although I admit, I made the mistake of spamming IP too hard to sometimes not have rage for it
It's only 10 rage π
The 30% hp its give eats the healing absorb
Yeah, you wanna use it after you get the dot for sure
oooooh
The initial hit is sizeable but it's nothing compared to the dot
LS after you get hit
100-70% ez af, 30-0% ez af. 70-40% needs to be blasted hard
I did not know thats how LS worked with this mechanic

