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neon fossil
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If Mastery is king... I wanna know how much mastery your running with

honest vale
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Ghash your mastery % has everything to do with the price of eggs.

steel mauve
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holy christ this guy is dense

warm plinth
steel mauve
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he never said mastery is king, hes telling you to follow the sims for an improvement, literally your own sims are telling you what you should do

tender cove
honest vale
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I just don't understand why you would ask a question in this Discord, then bicker with a handful of people because they agree with the sim. That's foolish. 🀣

warm plinth
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My warrior is not geared but these are my stats rn

uneven mason
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Funny story, you can stack some mastery and resim and it'll probably tell you go with vers or crit

warm plinth
neon elk
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Im 33% mastery, should i begin my route to r1 or uninstal?

steel mauve
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because they didnt give him the answer he wanted

neon elk
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Its like 2,3k

uneven mason
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because our stats are all so close that it's generally just best to follow the priority

honest vale
tender cove
honest vale
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Honestly, Juicy, mastery is a trap stat. You should go haste.

steel mauve
neon elk
neon fossil
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some of the top prot warriors are running less than 1.5k mastery... Yet, they arent stacking mastery due to having so little.

warm plinth
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Oh god, the top prot warrior argument

neon elk
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Thats me

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Soon

uneven mason
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You literally just run ilvl >

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and you'll be ifne

honest vale
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I watch Liquid clear Mythic, so that must mean I can clear mythic! POG

tender cove
uneven mason
tender cove
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some people are just different that way, i doubt much of anything, talents, stats etc matters too much to them.

honest vale
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"built different"

uneven mason
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Proper gearing pads vs bad gameplay...

tender cove
honest vale
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Like, I'll never understand how Firedup is so great at mage. Man is cut from a different cloth.

grim nymph
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418 Haste / mastery cloak, 418 haste / crit cloak, or 421 dragon games equipment (lol no)?

honest vale
uneven mason
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Dragon games is kickball?

tender cove
grim nymph
uneven mason
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if you worried about that stat

grim nymph
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And yeah, it's the kickball trinket

mighty valley
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kicking balls at your enemies is hilarious

steel mauve
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killing shit faster = higher chance of survival

honest vale
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I don't think I've ever worried about survivability. I'm either going to live or I'm going to die. That's it.

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All I need to do is press the right buttons at the right time and I win.

uneven mason
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Kickball does a lot of damage

steel mauve
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i subscribe to the "kill them before they kill you" survivability

grim nymph
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Kickball is also buggy in my experience

uneven mason
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Yeah

grim nymph
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Kind of useless since half the time the balls don't move

honest vale
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But I think almost every sim situation is going to be DPS. I think QE does a great job at simming for healers, but I don't think there's much like that for tankiness. It's just a matter of play, but the same can be said for healing.

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So, I would personally not take that trinket, but it would depend on the ilvl increase on the other two options.

frosty mango
warm plinth
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I have a 392 dragon games and it does 133k per cast

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That's not terrible

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and it's not hard at all to kick the balls

grim nymph
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It isn't always kickable

warm plinth
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Idk I guess I didn't see that happen. Mine all hit 3 times

grim nymph
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especially if the boss's hitbox is huge or you have avatar active

fallow nova
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So while I wait on a better trinket to drop, I have a question. Does Lifeflame Ampoule trigger Seal?

grim nymph
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Plus, I have decoration of flame already, and if I want to run dual on-use, I'd run the CoS windscar whetstone.

uneven mason
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mmmm COS

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the whetstone is somethign else

tender cove
warm plinth
honest vale
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I have Horn of Valor and Puzzle Box. I wish I had something other than Puzzle Box. :l

mighty valley
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the game will not stop throwing lifeflame ampoules at me

fallow nova
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Me too. It's that or kickball and I've also found it to be buggy

grim nymph
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I'm currently using a 398 kickball and 402 decoration of flame :|

bronze kestrel
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anyone doing mythic sennarth experiencing dcs?

grim nymph
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Want Granyth's trinket (for tankiness) or CoS trinket (for DPS)

sterile bough
uneven mason
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well COS should be really east now

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easy

grim nymph
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Gonna spam some CoS 20s to replace my 372 boots, ring, and poopoo trinket

craggy pilot
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"spam 20s" lol wtf πŸ˜„

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gigachad here

sterile bough
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20s are jiga easy

craggy pilot
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do i have troll teammates? im struggling 18s with premade grps πŸ€”

neon fossil
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Is the unstable frostfire belt worth getting for pwar?

sterile bough
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not troll just bad ones

craggy pilot
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like if you say 20s is a breeze, you must have giga dps people

sterile bough
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full pug brah

glacial ridge
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Just popped on after getting my Lariat to see what gems is best, obviously some debate lmao

sterile bough
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pugs are good in high keys

grim nymph
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I mean, I just missed +20 algethar timed last week and I only had a 372 shield

craggy pilot
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but still

grim nymph
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Crafted 418 this week since I got shit from vault

sterile bough
craggy pilot
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i feel im tryharding in +17s

sterile bough
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full pug

sterile bough
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except the fucking dh dying 8 times

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on the dungeon

craggy pilot
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no way i can spam +17s and just enjoy life

sterile bough
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to every mechanic

craggy pilot
sterile bough
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if only my details worked

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but for some reason it doesnt show deaths

pallid quiver
sterile bough
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after I finish dung

glacial ridge
sterile bough
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the thing I love the most is locks

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1 they never have affix weak aura

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2 they always get hit by frontals and live it

craggy pilot
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like im doing +12 COS just to chill while i farm ring

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but man this is some weird shit

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DK was offline half the dung

sterile bough
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what are this ppl

craggy pilot
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just feel my heart pounding constantly when im in "push mode"

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so doing +18s all day long is kinda yikes for me

sterile bough
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the higer u go the nicer ppl are

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and more "understanding" I guess

craggy pilot
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yea

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and people know tactics

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unlike these +14 people who are just carried by gear

sterile bough
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how tf is hov 32 run world

true hound
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What phial are you guys using for pushing higher keys?

sterile bough
craggy pilot
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my server kinda slow today though i guess

sterile bough
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insane

sterile bough
craggy pilot
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EU

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its 4am πŸ˜„

tardy granite
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hi , sorry for off-topic , how much ilvl worth for leech items ?

sterile bough
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oh u put in cos

true hound
sterile bough
tardy granite
sterile bough
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150 strenght is prob only a bit worse than 740 vers

true hound
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Hm, alright

sterile bough
craggy pilot
sterile bough
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with 15% leech

true hound
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I'd say leech is worth a few ilvls

sterile bough
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I'd say 3 or 6 ilvl worth

craggy pilot
true hound
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But not more than 4-5 ilvls perhaps

sterile bough
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depends on stats as well

true hound
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Y

craggy pilot
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i have 13% leech

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but 10% is baseline anyway

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str > leech any day

mellow quartz
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Leech is 100% not worth ilvl

craggy pilot
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so ilvl is king

mellow quartz
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Most of your leech is from talents anyway

craggy pilot
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stop trolling the new guy plz

sterile bough
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nah brah leech is jiga

tardy granite
sterile bough
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SEE

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BIIIIG LEECH

tardy granite
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i have 25.5% leech and wanna sure how much ilvl worth

craggy pilot
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% high could be because he doesnt press IP πŸ˜„

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also how is ur Indom below ur Leech?

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are u not spending rage πŸ€”

sterile bough
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he has 25% leech brah

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ofc it heals a lot

sick sentinel
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Brah

tardy granite
sick sentinel
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Leech ain't worth ilvl

sterile bough
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my indom is also below leech

craggy pilot
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my indom is 50% of my IP

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and i feel i spam IP too much πŸ˜„

sterile bough
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for me is 1/4 of IP

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so ye ;p

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u spam not enough ip

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or rather u dont need it

tardy granite
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that's why im asking

sterile bough
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equinox has always giga leech as well

sick sentinel
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Brew isn't warrior.

solid lantern
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Does Defensive Stance increase threat gen?

craggy pilot
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maybe because it works well with the Stagger πŸ€”

sterile bough
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u dont know how siqshy brm is

mighty valley
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getting 10% leech for free has tricked people into thinking that getting a tiny trickle on an item makes it worth 20 more ilvls

sick sentinel
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Leech works better on Brew than any other tank because of stagger

sterile bough
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imagine warrior without block

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brew is even squishier

craggy pilot
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people being 380 ilvl "but i have 35% leech bro" detective

sick sentinel
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No one is saying anything about Brew's tankiness

craggy pilot
tardy granite
craggy pilot
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but you asked for "ilvl drop"

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ilvl is king on pwar

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str >> secondary stats > leech > tertiary stats

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something like that

true hound
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I disagree

tardy granite
true hound
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Str>leech>secondaries

craggy pilot
true hound
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Yeah, on any piece except ring/neck

main veldt
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as prot is there any way we can utilize this? or no fire damage

craggy pilot
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can proc it

gilded glacier
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When using the Primal Ritual Shell, is it better to use fire for the damage or wind for the mastery? Fire sims higher for dps but I don't know enough about prot if that trumps the mastery increase from wind for the critical blocking and whatnot

main veldt
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what trinkets recommend? decoration of flame?

true hound
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Yup, get the crafted frostfire belt. It'll proc the ring at almost full potsntial

tardy granite
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thanks for the info guyss, btw can i know is there any recourse or guide about leech ?

true hound
craggy pilot
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i have the frostfire belt, now when do i get the ring boys?

true hound
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But count on leech as about 1.5hps/1leech

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Or 100leech=about 1% of your overall healing give or take

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Haste is absolutely important, but the other stats aren't that bad either. I'd say leech is more worth as long as you have a decent amount of haste/versea on the rest of your gear in case the leech item has other stats

craggy pilot
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i mean i wouldnt drop ilvl on a ring to gain leech

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but sounds like thats what you would

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idk

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im tired

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off to bed 😴

tender cove
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maybe get lucky πŸ˜›

craggy pilot
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i did, got cloak

tender cove
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meh

craggy pilot
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got the ring on my Alt ofc

tender cove
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classic ^^

craggy pilot
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but didnt do HC yet this week

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so maybe 🀞

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does anyone run Overwhelming Rage in high keys?

fallow osprey
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anyone taking shockwave or disrupting shout for H raz? trying to help out with interrupt part

slow harbor
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returning from a while, intimidating shout is valuable cc now? dont have to worry about fear pulling mobs or?

tender cove
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shit bro, i didnt read the last part @craggy pilot xd

craggy pilot
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like how troll is this? πŸ˜„
im taking off Intimidating shout, shockwave, storm bolt, and Pain and Gain

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seems omega troll, but more dam

tender cove
craggy pilot
slow harbor
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gotcha, ty

craggy pilot
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see how much more dps i do with it

tender cove
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its nice, i like the shorter cd for roar

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feels like you have it up almost everytime you need

craggy pilot
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does Dragon Roar line nicely with Uproar? i feel like its perfect with Demo Shout without Uproar πŸ€”

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and maybe ill swap Show of Force for Sudden Death

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more Prio dmg

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and boss dmg

tender cove
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and OR is pretty nice, its a crutch and all that but I feel like it helps to manage rage quite nicely but obvs im not running high keys nor I am particularly pro πŸ˜‰

mighty valley
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one point in OR i can see, the second over storm bolt seems unnecessary to me

fallen pulsar
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does spell block work on lasher poison in agelthar?

warm plinth
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Spell Block doesn't work on DoTs

fallen pulsar
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ah was wondering since it's nature damage

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so not physical

warm plinth
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Yeah doesn't matter unfortunately

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No DoTs 😦

fallen pulsar
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unfortunate 😦

craggy pilot
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shouldnt need it anyway with proper dps

fallen pulsar
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yeah, was getting to 50 stacks and getting destroyed, wish there was a potion to cleanse poisons lol

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didn't have a poison cleanse in the group

craggy pilot
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pop Shield Wall

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and ur good

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if the adds die fast enough

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50+ stacks sounds normal tbh

fallen pulsar
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hmm. was still getting dropped with shield wall, and double AoE stuns on em. I thought we were dpsing solidly. But could just be that we're not bursting at the right time

craggy pilot
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did you get cleansed the Thorn debuff?

warm plinth
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tbh I feel like going in there without a poison cleanse is kinda throwing

craggy pilot
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forgot the name

fallen pulsar
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the big add? yeah

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cleansed that

craggy pilot
fallen pulsar
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but yeah I think a poison cleanse would be really helpful

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monk, pally, druid iirc

warm plinth
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Druid, Monk, Paladin, Evoker

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Shaman with poison cleanse totem

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but I don't think they take that by default so

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you'd have to check

craggy pilot
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45sec CD

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can u have that for every phase then?

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fuck thats giga tech tbh

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forgot Shamans have poison cleanse totem haha

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ima tell my r-sham premade

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thats probably even the best dispel there is, since it dispels auto every 1sec

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why am i so stoked to do Academy suddenly

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all this tech i learned 🀣

warm plinth
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It should be up for every instant lasher spawn

craggy pilot
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ye exactly

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thats giga

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i will take 0 dmg

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recommended shaman talent tree for Academy is this 🀣

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1 point can be easily moved to poison totem here obv

fading tide
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Just timed a 15 RLP to get that 2K score for my first season mythic plus tanking. Got a lot of great tips and tricks from this discord thanks to all.

zealous grove
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how badly do i want 4 pc? Better to get 4 piece by wearing normal legs, or keep 2 piece and have

feral dune
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how do i live on 2nd boss in rlp?

gilded glacier
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are you kiting around the top ring?

feral dune
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yeh

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i think?

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you mean just stand far away from boss and i'll be fine?

gilded glacier
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You can slowly move the boss around that entire top ring

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to spread out the fire pools

feral dune
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oh

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yeah i am

warm plinth
feral dune
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im just getting wrecked by the dot

warm plinth
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Just rotate defensives for it

feral dune
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i ran out of em

warm plinth
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Prayge for more heals

gilded glacier
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its really all you can do

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You can be perfect with your defensives, but if your healer isnt keeping up, you're gonna die sooner or later

warm plinth
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Yeah the fight is a major healing check

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Constant groupwide damage

gilded glacier
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I always hate healing that fight

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its a bit more bearable as monk since Im constantly able to heal and move but it still sucks

feral dune
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i play with an rsham assuming that's not the best fight for them either

tender cove
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what is the highest ilvl the weekly shit can give you? trials, feast, siege etc

slim dove
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ive yet to see past 385.

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stopped doing them mostly last week unless giga bored.

restive canopy
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Seen 402 once from the siding the accord chest on a 360 ilvl alt, otherwise my toons get 372 or so from most of it, only one guildy has seen a 402 once as well.

tender cove
dire matrix
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accord scales

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rest dont

warm plinth
slim dove
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my last 2 accords have been 382 garbo

gilded glacier
slow harbor
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Do vault rewards stick around for weeks if you can't claim them in the reset week? or gone?

tender cove
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the are cumaltive

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so you can have 10 weeks worth and keep opening

slow harbor
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cool ty

tender cove
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we dont have any wep skills/talents left right?

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axe, sword etc, dont matter?

amber siren
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Nope no weapon specialisations

tender cove
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so no drawback to make 1h axe?

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cuz its only one I found for 2 days that can make 1h wep T5

amber siren
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As long as it’s 1h and strength you’re good to go

jade trench
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When dealing with aoe do you thunderclap a lot or just revenge your little heart out?
Wowhead says not to revenge as much (Thunder Clap - Shield Slam - Thunder Clap - Revenge - Repeat) but im losing threat if I don't have cooldowns up so I'm revenging my nipples off. Is that the wrong move?

inland mesa
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Yes, keep your nipples.

mighty valley
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When you're doing a big big pull and bloodsurge is driving your rage through the roof it can be ok to start skipping shield slams in avatar

subtle owl
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Hey, i have a
And i have this too. Upgradable, not bis stats, but has leech. What you guys think about it ?

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Leech seems kinda big

mighty egret
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if you have the valor to increase the ilvl then why not

subtle owl
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Yeah, but question is, does it worth to sacrifice vers and a little bit of haste

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for leach

mighty valley
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crit is good too, and cloaks are kind of a cheap upgrade

jade trench
mighty valley
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in aoe? not really, it's good damage now and generates rage and keeps rend rolling

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more rage gen gets you to avatar faster too

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and show of force is buffing it

subtle owl
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ill say when you giga pull, you spam like 3 revenge for one tc

median tulip
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Especially if you are running Unstoppable Force/Booming Voice/Thunderlord talent combo

jade trench
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Ignore pain generating threat is new to me, thank you

weak snow
neon fossil
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Im noticing alot more people using Fueled by Violence than Brutal Vitality. With the nerf to BV should we be using FbV?

proud dock
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are we supposed to never have 2 stack of block? laways keep one rolling?

neon fossil
proud dock
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wat if i have block up with charge?

neon fossil
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But there isnt every a point where you dont want to have SB up if you are actively tanking

proud dock
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and 2 block cahrges

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mostly in m+ context

weak snow
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even off tanking sb is a dps increase for shield slam

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and it stacks up to 24s baseline so why not use it?

proud dock
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ok just making sure thanks

median tulip
weak snow
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its my number 1 priority rage dump unless if it is going to cap which is nearly impossible unless if i run bolster or something

median tulip
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Bolster also breaks the rules and adds its bonus Shield Block over and above that cap

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The only time I won't use Shield Block when I'm at or approaching 2 charges is when I have enough Shield Block to get to the end of the fight already and am in Execute range

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Which is why I like to keep my Shield Block duration pretty high for most of the fight; so I can then switch to Rage dumping into Execute

median tulip
median tulip
mighty valley
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spending rage is a powerful thing to do even for no actual benefit from the spell

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so even a tiny fraction of an IP is worth pressing rather than wasting rage

median tulip
fallen pulsar
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is the 2nd RLP boss tank bleed dispellable?

median tulip
neon fossil
mighty valley
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not really

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every GCD that's not TC or SS should be Revenge

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IP is off GCD and therefore cast as well when needed

neon fossil
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More DPS or wasting rage on an IP which is already capped. Yea okay mate

median tulip
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Nah. You use Revenge if you have a GCD available for it, and you use Ignore Pain to prevent overcapping

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The limiting factor on Revenge is not Rage; it is GCD availability

neon fossil
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hmm Okay, I see what you're saying

median tulip
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Because Shield Slam, Thunderclap and Demo Shout all take priority

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I use Ignore Pain because I need to dump Rage

tulip kelp
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I just got that new ring.. is that shit worth it? Lost a lot of haste lol

median tulip
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also with the gem it has more Haste

tulip kelp
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I don't think I can upgrade that ring.. its a matrix one

median tulip
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Oh, I thought it was an upgradable one...

tulip kelp
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Not a spark one, no

median tulip
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What's your current stat array look like?

tulip kelp
mighty valley
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20 ilvls has got to be worth it

tulip kelp
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That ring gave me like 7% vers sadge

median tulip
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14% Vers... so you must have around 3k Vers rating, you can afford to lose a bit of that

tulip kelp
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I'm def not trying to stack vers, just some bad drops.. have vers heavy shoulders, helm, etc

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2K vers rating

median tulip
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Vers is still a decent stat, but I'm looking at your stat array and thinking it desperately needs more Haste

tulip kelp
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Yeah I agree, just having some bad luck with drops

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Hence me considering if the 382 ring is better lol

median tulip
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It happens

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Yeah... I mean, I'd keep hold of the 402, you never know when you might replace your other Vers pieces, but Jewelry pieces are the ones where downgrading ilvls to get better secondaries is viable, because they don't carry Primary Stat

tulip kelp
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I have no real tier pieces so a lot of that will change next couple weeks

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Hopefully get rid of helm and craft 418 belt next week

mighty valley
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haste isn't so far ahead that you'd drop over 100 total stats for a bit more haste imo

median tulip
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A gem socket with a rank 3 gem in is worth, what... 12 ilvls of secondaries on a ring?

leaden shuttle
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when should i be enchanting / gemming my gear? im ilvl 377.5

mighty valley
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whenever you're not replacing gear near constantly and want to be stronger in the stuff you're currently doing

median tulip
mighty valley
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you can also buy cheaper rank 1s and 2s, yeah

median tulip
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Or cheaper blue enchants, that's fine too

mighty valley
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gems are pretty cheap except the mainstat ones

leaden shuttle
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i feel like im always gnna be replacing cus im still at +5 mythic and im sure i can get to +10 once i keep playing these dungeon and memorize the routes

tulip kelp
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The rank 1 and 2s are cheap

median tulip
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At 377 you can be tanking +11s

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No problem at all

lucid pendant
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What about 395

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20s?

leaden shuttle
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i can but i still feel like i have lots to learn about routes and optimization so i dont want to go into the deep end. just today, i figured out in Azure Vault that you can skip a pack by not waking up the patrol whelps

median tulip
leaden shuttle
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so buy the stuff on the right side? are those "rank 2" enchants?

lucid pendant
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Rank two meaning there are recipes for each enchant that are ranks 1-3

leaden shuttle
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is it the quality: bronze, silver, gold?

lucid pendant
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The price premium for rank 3 vs rank 1 or 2 can be extreme

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Look at sophic devotion on the AH for example

lucid pendant
leaden shuttle
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okay thanks

limber python
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is crit on physical abilities RNG or did he somehow slap my back

stark pelican
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@limber python Did you have SB up? With ignore pain capped and SB you should of been fine. You can use LS if your not full HP or SW to survive.

limber python
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i dont think i did but i thought shield block only applied to auto attack

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but ignore pain was capped and was still a 1shot

thin cedar
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Do you keep those guys together? I’m not good at navigating.. but how many stacks of the buff did he have at the time?? That could be why he hit you so hard

limber python
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what buff

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i stack them

compact jackal
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Do I want intim shout on H Rasz?

warm plinth
compact jackal
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Trying to think of what use it has

warm plinth
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Their stacks should never even get close to that high

thin cedar
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That’s what killed you.. I didn’t know how to navigate to find that, but I figured that’s the only way you got hit that high

limber python
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they do more dmg apart?

warm plinth
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Yes, they get a buff that stacks every 1 second, 10% more damage per stack

limber python
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must of beenthe brown shit sparating them

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i was kiting him slow cuz

#

i thought he was critting my back

warm plinth
#

Mobs don't crit just because your back is to them. At worst you wouldn't be able to block/dodge/parry

limber python
#

that to me is critting XD

warm plinth
#

But yeah as soon as the spirit leap shows on the ground, move to it

#

The leap doesn't deal damage, so just move to it immediately and you'll minimize the time they spend apart

limber python
#

ty

toxic pewter
#

what chest enchant u guys use

inland mesa
#

mythic kurog, do we have to do anything special to eat the add puddles?

stark garnet
#

Finally got that one hander from the academy, anyone spent valor on that? Thinking of pumping it up

lusty grotto
slim dove
#

love how a 15 rlp this week is still harder then a 20 shadowmoon

lusty grotto
#

eh i didnt have problems with it

#

we almost 3 chested too

fringe gust
#

What's the best way to deal with Searing Wounds on Kokia Blazehoof?

lusty grotto
#

double wall

rough gate
#

How do i find dps that will do more damage than me and survive the first round of boss mechanics critcake

fringe gust
#

Shield Wall?

limpid anchor
#

Check their logs

fringe gust
#

I can have it up for like every other, but hot damn that shit hurts on high high keys

warm plinth
#

use defensives

fringe gust
#

Pretty much what I'm doing lol

lusty grotto
#

yes, play defender's aegis

fringe gust
#

I mean rotating a bark, SW, LS

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
#

SR doesnt work on wounds

#

its a bleed

limpid anchor
#

Does spell block even work

toxic pewter
#

damn

limpid anchor
#

Considering it’s a bleed

toxic pewter
#

well lucky i survived then LOL

fringe gust
#

Yeah I knew SR didn't work

full violet
#

I think rotating CDs is enough for her, No need for Double wall No?

toxic pewter
#

double shield wall seems to be best

lusty grotto
#

just play aegis

fringe gust
#

On tyran 20s, that shit gapes

warm plinth
#

@ionic fern hi ily

fringe gust
#

Even with SW I'm dying

lusty grotto
#

reroll dwarf

#

and/or have an evoker

warm plinth
#

That fight is a huge healer check

fringe gust
#

That's honestly the best advice tbh

toxic pewter
#

dang didnt realize that was a bleed

warm plinth
#

I would not want to heal it

#

I would cry

toxic pewter
#

no wonder that shit hurts

ionic fern
lusty grotto
#

evoker bleed cleanse is πŸ†—

#

πŸ‘Œ

warm plinth
#

No just the one still. I am gonna do more over the weekend for sure

lusty grotto
#

and/or a quick BoP/aura cancel works too

#

demo should also work

warm plinth
#

just run like a little bitch and then she can't touch you, amirite

#

what could go wrong

lusty grotto
#

sir

#

we are woyers

#

we run

full violet
#

Can you outrange it?

lusty grotto
#

to our graves only

warm plinth
#

I really really really doubt it

#

I was just memeing

full violet
#

Yea

#

I tried to do that and died

warm plinth
#

πŸ˜‚

lusty grotto
#

well considering its a stack every hit

warm plinth
#

Most boss tankbusters are like 100 yd range or some range that it's impossible to outrange it

lusty grotto
#

max 5 stacks

#

err 4

full violet
#

She hits it no matter what

lusty grotto
#

you can parry it

#

and it doesnt hit

ionic fern
#

STACK CRIT.

#

OR GO HOME.

lusty grotto
#

crit gang ftw

pallid quiver
#

i stack what robot tells me

full violet
#

Beeing far away really hurts bc no rage build thus no ip kek

lusty grotto
#

lol luerce

ionic fern
warm plinth
#

Don't say robot

#

It triggers me

pallid quiver
#

damn, mwahi's overworked at raidbots smh

warm plinth
#

It makes me think of AMR

pallid quiver
#

i don't even pay him

lusty grotto
#

yeah

ionic fern
#

I gotchu.

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

ngl it did the same to me Ghash

warm plinth
#

πŸ˜‚

ionic fern
#

TBH

lusty grotto
#

OHNO

ionic fern
#

AMR had/has some really solid information.

warm plinth
#

πŸ‘€

ionic fern
#

With articles.

warm plinth
#

NOOOOOOO HE SAID IT

#

MWAHI THERE ARE LURKERS HERE

lusty grotto
#

πŸƒ

ionic fern
#

l

#

d

#

f

#

g

#

a

#

q

#

we

#

r

#

t

#

h

#

f

#

x

#

zxas

#

d

#

gf

#

hgd

#

h

warm plinth
#

πŸ˜‚

ionic fern
#

gf

slim dove
ionic fern
#

jhfg

#

hj

#

gh

#

jfd

#

fdg

#

a

#

das

#

ds

#

There you go.

limber python
#

same

ionic fern
#

Now it's too far up.

lusty grotto
#

mwahi how dare you

ionic fern
#

The average person only looks -1 from their own message.

fringe gust
#

DS doesn't work on the bleed either does it

warm plinth
#

Just pin it, that'll guarantee no one ever reads it

#

😏

pallid quiver
#

man it took me so long to realize what AMR's acronym was it's been so long since I thought about that site

#

i never used it, either, so

ionic fern
pallid quiver
#

10/10 true

ionic fern
#

ASMR?

#

Why are you talking about the whisper people.

warm plinth
#

nah it's so much creepier than whispering now man

lusty grotto
#

the lick microphone people

ionic fern
#

What?

warm plinth
#

I saw one come across my tiktok and she was playing with some kind of ooze that was all over her microphone and I was like what in the actual fuck

lusty grotto
#

lol

pallid quiver
#

the ear licking game, mwahi, keep up with the times

warm plinth
#

It made very disturbing noises

pallid quiver
#

people pay the monies for that

ionic fern
#

There's so much revolting information here.

warm plinth
#

I know sadge

ionic fern
#

Ghash..tiktok?
Luerce..ear licking?

#

What.

#

Please no.

lusty grotto
#

lol

warm plinth
#

Tiktok is great for killing time

ionic fern
#

Know what else is great for killing time?

pallid quiver
#

a gun

ionic fern
#

Analysing your logs and arguing with people on warrior discord.

lusty grotto
#

also beer

warm plinth
#

I do that too; I'm a multitasker

#

Did you see the huge argument I got into earlier about vers

pallid quiver
warm plinth
#

πŸ˜‚

ionic fern
#

No.

pallid quiver
#

i even do it while at work

warm plinth
#

I was ready to fight

ionic fern
#

Vers good?

#

Vers bad?

lusty grotto
#

wait i didnt

ionic fern
#

Which one was it?

#

Vers ok?

warm plinth
#

He said you had to stack vers to do 20s

lusty grotto
#

oh

#

LOL

ionic fern
#

HELL JEAH.

pallid quiver
#

They said stack vers because you need it do 20s because the rank 2 warrior stacks vers

ionic fern
#

You need at least 1% Vers

#

To do 20s.

#

Proven fact.

warm plinth
#

And I said no you don't, and he said try to do a 21 RLP without it, and so I found logs where people had like 3% and was like man idk how the hell they did it.

lusty grotto
#

YOU MEAN NERF?

#

that motherfucker

warm plinth
#

3% more damage would've killed them

#

easily

pallid quiver
#

i didn't even check who they were talking about

lusty grotto
#

its 500% of the time

#

Nerf's fucking fault

#

every single time

#

Leech gang?

#

Nerftank

#

Versa?

#

Nerftank

warm plinth
#

Also there was the other guy that got upset because mastery was his highest simming stat

pallid quiver
#

anytime i see "X rated player does this" as an argument point, I just kinda glaze over

ionic fern
#

Let the man enjoy the game. chatting

rough gate
#

18% leech gang

lusty grotto
#

daily reminder that Nerftank couldnt fucking keep banner up for more than 30 seconds last season

warm plinth
#

He was wondering what gem to put in his lariat and said that mastery was simming best, so we told him to use the mastery gem

#

And he got really mad

ionic fern
#

Just agree

pallid quiver
#

oh i missed the getting mad part

ionic fern
#

.What ever people come here with.

#

Agree.

warm plinth
#

We tried that too tbh

#

And he was still mad

ionic fern
#

Let them fail miserably.
Then they come back.
And then you tell them "See, if you read the pins and noticed what was said before, you would have been fine".

#

Let them prove themselves wrong.

pallid quiver
#

nah, they don't come back

ionic fern
#

Even better.

warm plinth
#

his kid is cute af

pallid quiver
#

On average, most of the people come in here to shout for their self-esteem and then don't ever come back

ionic fern
#

Like me.

warm plinth
#

I'm here for validation, idk why you guys are here

pallid quiver
#

Like, most of the people I blocked during the starting time period of DF have stopped posting here

ionic fern
#

I wiped the raid on 3% Rasz yesterday cause i forgot to use a defensive on the last phase.

#

Please tell me i'm good.

#

And i did good.

pallid quiver
#

i can tell because i can see the chat here

warm plinth
#

You wanna see my cast breakdown in my dungeon Mwahi πŸ˜‚

#

It's really bad

warm plinth
#

Oh he's back

lusty grotto
#

yup confirmed

warm plinth
#

Hi Juicy

lusty grotto
#

its 500% nerf

warm plinth
#

We missed you ❀️

frozen rose
#

When we throwing our massive axe during the raz encounter? When boss does the charging thing and has a shield, when raid gets the two marks. What add/adds also get a shield you can toss your axe at?

lusty grotto
#

quick glance at rio

pallid quiver
#

you... you mean ravager?

lusty grotto
#

nerftank 15% versa

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

2nd tank = 7% versa

#

i wonder how that 2nd tank does it

#

HMMmmmmm

woven trellis
#

why is fire haste mastery ring bis for warprot already

pallid quiver
warm plinth
#

That's a thing of beauty right

ionic fern
ionic fern
#

πŸ˜‚

frozen rose
#

Wrecking throw

ionic fern
#

What dungeon was that.

warm plinth
#

Nokhud

lusty grotto
#

Plka = 7% versa

pallid quiver
#

Plka confirmed cheat engine user smh

lusty grotto
#

would you trust the tank that gets carried by his teams and that couldnt keep banner for more than 10% more than its base duration?

warm plinth
#

I didn't set up anything, and I haven't touched prot since BFA. I had no idea where my buttons were. I forgot about ravager like dozens of times

frozen rose
#

Thought wrecking throw is used in raz encounter for good dps . Cause there’s shield opportunities

lusty grotto
#

or the other tried and proven warriors

warm plinth
#

And I was still in only revenge when it's free mode

#

Somehow

#

I did really well πŸ˜‚

ionic fern
#

Close enough.

#

πŸ˜‚

woven trellis
#

what do i have to use in order to do good use of fire ring

warm plinth
#

Yeah mine isn't way off at all

#

But hey, for my first prot dungeon in like 2 years, I'll take this

lusty grotto
warm plinth
#

I've seen worse logs in here πŸ˜‚

woven trellis
#

i have fang and other added thing already which one should i keep then

lusty grotto
#

and also i hope you mean the dmg ring

#

cause fuck the shield ring

ionic fern
#

I'll take either tbh.

woven trellis
lusty grotto
#

ew

warm plinth
#

I gotta mess with my WAs and I'll be fine

sullen flame
#

Is tier worth 23 ilvl on a helm?

warm plinth
#

for 2pc or 4pc?

sullen flame
#

2

woven trellis
warm plinth
#

Yeah

woven trellis
#

i can get 415 hands or 398 head tier piece

lusty grotto
#

well its a free effect

#

but honestly

#

if we had to choose

#

the dmg one is clearly superior

woven trellis
#

i guess ill get the 415 hand then

#

and hope to get the right tier piece

lusty grotto
#

its rare enough though

woven trellis
#

but it cant be upgraded

#

its mastery and i play prot

#

but it had socket

lusty grotto
#

right

warm plinth
#

Poor mastery man

woven trellis
#

the toughest choices for my war

warm plinth
#

Getting the short end of the stick in this channel

#

These whipper snappers will never understand the glory of Bastion of Might

lusty grotto
#

lol

#

well we still didnt go mastery back then

warm plinth
#

Shut up Nim!

woven trellis
#

ah yeah and my 398 tier piece has avoidance on it

lusty grotto
#

but i do 'member

warm plinth
#

Havoc didn't take haste either but we had GIGAHOLYSHITHASTE

tulip kelp
#

oi I know vers bad... but is ilvl king for ring in this case?

warm plinth
#

Good times

tulip kelp
woven trellis
#

so like every of my choice have a huge upside and huge downside, ring is bad stats but still ilvl upgrade and socket and rare effect, tier piece is low ilvl but has avoidance (398) and i dont have this one, it would get me 3p, and hands are 415 and best stats but i takes a slot piece

lusty grotto
#

BoM was chefKiss for sure though

warm plinth
tulip kelp
#

socket doe

lusty grotto
#

vers isnt bad, nobody has said that

tulip kelp
#

whats the equiv

warm plinth
#

That's a great ring

#

Take it

tulip kelp
#

which one

#

The 402 over the 382?

warm plinth
#

Both but you should use the higher one

full venture
#

what are the best gems to take with your elemental lariat?

warm plinth
#

Actually hold on

limpid anchor
#

Imagine using vers. What a pleb

lusty grotto
#

lol

#

dont say that

warm plinth
#

Yes, take the higher one @tulip kelp

#

Even with socket the 402 is better

#

without*

sullen flame
#

I like vers, I feel comfy in my bubble wrap

tulip kelp
#

Aight thank god, need all the help with ilvl I can get heh

lusty grotto
#

vers is ok, stacking it for the sake of stacking because "nerf said so" or over other stats is not

tulip kelp
#

Yeah I just have 20% haste so really need to juice it up again

warm plinth
#

It's almost like we care about more stats instead of "better" stats amirite

tulip kelp
#

Need some tier asap

lusty grotto
#

the pinned stat guidelines are still relevant and used

warm plinth
#

I got 2pc on my rogue; I'm very excited

remote dawn
#

what socket? 88 haste or the double haste + vers/crit?

lusty grotto
#

double secondary

#

in other words, the latter

woven trellis
#

i like horn of valor, is it bad if i choose to upgrade it

#

sims favor whetstone of hunger or even blazebinder

lusty grotto
#

🀷

#

its your valor, use it how you wish

woven trellis
#

it just feels like its more good overall no? its a long last 30 sec of main stat

#
  • constant 500 versatility
lusty grotto
#

🀷

woven trellis
#

it feels good for pushing but am i in the wrong here

lusty grotto
#

i hold valor for key stuff

#

chest/legs weapons/shields

woven trellis
#

i use spark shield sword

lusty grotto
#

that's just my personal philosophy

#

it doesnt mean people need to follow it

ionic fern
woven trellis
#

i used it on my BiS gear so far, cloak ring

ionic fern
#

Then again..i'm using Boon and Rumbling to do keys so..

#

πŸ˜‚

woven trellis
#

but i have more to use but no good item for it

#

lol

#

i have the boon

#

but idk

#

should i use it really?

lusty grotto
#

dont worry mwahi i have absolute shit trinkets

pallid quiver
#

blow your valor on random stuff you'll never use in an attempt to appease the rng lords in giving you a grieftorch

pallid quiver
woven trellis
#

playing boon feels so dangerous

ionic fern
#

It's like ~5% of my overall DPS.

woven trellis
#

wont i die because of it

#

lol

#

ok

ionic fern
#

If you plan it properly you won't.

#

If you do it like i do, you will.

lusty grotto
woven trellis
#

ye

#

ok

#

ill upgrade my horn of valor

#

nah

#

ill try it tmrw

#

but it feels like ill die

ionic fern
#

AA +19
Pull 3 packs on the tree boss area
Gather up
Boon
GREEN CIRCLES OF DISORIENTATIONS

woven trellis
#

wow

#

ye

#

thats why i dont use it

ionic fern
#

I still use it.

woven trellis
#

the more u pull big pack the more u need to move usually

#

so i dont rly get it

ionic fern
#

Because i know the reason is me failing.

#

So i can plan better.

pallid quiver
#

if you time it right, you'll get big number

ionic fern
#

It's only some really specific packs which have ground effects.

lusty grotto
#

like Bull's mom

#

shh dont tag him

#

lets keep that one for ourselves

woven trellis
#

hm

frigid nebula
#

Has anyone tanked a TJS higher then a 15 and had problems with the 2nd boss? I can't seem to stay alive there...

#

Oh okay, One sec

warm plinth
#

I'm assuming Avatar doesn't break Boon's root huh

ionic fern
#

No.

#

😦

#

Can't even right click it off.

#

It's super fun.

warm plinth
ionic fern
#

Like a minigame of "WILL THE HEALER NOTICE I'M TAKING HITS IN THE BACK OR NOT"

warm plinth
#

If we're being honest, it's none of the healer's business anyway

ionic fern
#

Or when you boon and the enemies decide to walk back like 1m.

#

And you can't use your SS on them anymore.

#

πŸ˜‚

upbeat salmon
#

Mobs can't hurt you if they are dead

#

Blame dps

slim dove
#

probably. first boss temple was acting wack as fuck for me today

#

water jet would move giga slow then speed up without warning

ionic fern
#

Sometimes even dissapears.

#

🀷

slim dove
#

guess i've just been avoiding the key since week 1 lol

ionic fern
#

Guess so.

tulip kelp
#

What's the inverse?

neon fossil
#

Im guessing Right and then left.

#

Inverse - Santify and then Storm

#

I would guess anyways

tulip kelp
#

What's the reasoning for that?

neon fossil
#

Not sure.

ionic fern
#

Damage reduction.

#

Hyrja gains stacks of damage for the ability she casts the longer she stays on one side.

neon fossil
#

@ionic fern is that because of how healer intensive the storm is where as sanctify is literally just a dodge only mechanic?

lusty grotto
#

no

#

its so people swap sides

#

and dont just do dodges

#

storm has been healer intensive since legion

#

has nothing to do with damage stacks

#

as in, yes you will probably die on a high tyrannical having Hyrja on that side without any swaps

#

on the 2nd or 3rd storm

solar crown
#

Ive just assumed the blast-thing was to be used to switch sides. Never thought of it as an option to just stand on one side

#

Dont the stacks gets reset when you switch? Or do they stay throughout the fight, so the logic is that you get less storm-phases if you start on right?

lusty grotto
#

yes they reset

solar crown
#

Then i must be misunderstanding what you are talking about, mb

lusty grotto
#

well they dont really reset

#

they just fade out

#

i was just replying to the question

solar crown
#

Yes, thanks πŸ™‚

#

Would like to know what 'inverse hyrja' means though

#

Maybe its something ive missed

lusty grotto
#

they dont start left

#

they start right

#

at the orbs

#

usually we start at the storm side (left)

#

if you dont then you're doing inverse

solar crown
#

And the reason is you start with sanctify to get less storm-phases?

#

I know its early, and im old, but i dont understand why it needs practice

lusty grotto
#

i assume that's the case

solar crown
#

If the stacks fade out when you switch

#

Ok thanks πŸ˜„ i always try to improve

lusty grotto
#

practice dodging i guess

#

idk what else needs practice there tbh

solar crown
#

Nice, then its isnt just me

lusty grotto
#

if i had to guess

#

its to minimize stacks

mighty valley
#

it's possible that the storm is so bad that you literally need CDs for it each time

lusty grotto
#

so he swaps as soon as the ability is about to hit

mighty valley
#

so you need to do a particular order so you get more sanctifies than storms

#

so you don't run out of CDs

lusty grotto
#

yeah that's true

#

which would depend on dps and key level tbh

solar crown
#

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFTjUh3b/

After i watched this sanctify became a joke and i could scream at people who got killed

TikTok

How to dodge the balls on Hyrja EASILY #dragonflight #worldofwarcraftmemes #twitchclips #twitchstreamer #fyp

lusty grotto
#

without watching

#

is it the gigantic melee range?

solar crown
#

No, just simple explanation om how to dodge

lusty grotto
#

her hitbox becomes double during it

solar crown
#

As you just have to move 3 times to be safe

ionic fern
#

People were failing to recognize simple patterns?

lusty grotto
#

oh the patterns haha

solar crown
#

Dont underestimate dps

#

They only see their keyboard when playing

upbeat salmon
#

I wish they saw their keyboard

solar crown
#

Best thing is all the mages to tries to play arcane

median tulip
#

On Fort I do double Storm and she's usually dead by that point

#

I wouldn't do that on Tyr though

ionic fern
#

Our DPS must be bad then cause we got 3 storms on a 20 fort we did last week.

#

😦

sudden gazelle
#

Offtopic: does anyone know if Primal Storma are available for low levels?

#

Storms

lusty grotto
#

no

#

no as in its not available for lower levels

warm plinth
#

Legion swap strat is bis on Hyrja hmmNod

orchid frigate
#

hmm that searing blow on 2nd boss in rlp kills me without CDs. is that normal?

#

or is it a healer issue

lusty grotto
#

without CDs? yes

orchid frigate
#

damn

ionic fern
#

I mean.

#

"TANK BUSTER BLEED WHICH IGNORES ARMOR".

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
#

simply indom heal through it

#

it's so easy

#

that's only, what, thousands of rage in the span of a few seconds?

fallen lichen
#

I noticed sometimes I get 2 stacks, sometimes I get all 4 though.

#

Is it possible to heroic leap out during the cast or did I get lucky parry’s or something?

orchid frigate
#

also gotten the feeling i can leap out of it

lusty grotto
#

parry

keen yacht
#

Is warrior prot set good enough to ignore ilvl?

lusty grotto
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you parried

keen yacht
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Or its Ilvl on item prio

pallid quiver
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hence why you stack crit, obvs

ionic fern
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BUT THAT 1% DR FROM VERS.

pallid quiver
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BUT THAT 100% FROM CRIT

limpid anchor
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Hello, how much Vers should I stack to notice it? 40% ?

lusty grotto
devout parcel
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what happened with the whelp trinket from being S to being so low?

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i'm only farming m+ so thats why i cant have the raid trinkets atm

ionic fern
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When was it in "S"?

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πŸ‘€

lusty grotto
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well fortunately for you there are better trinkets in keys

blazing condor
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think it mightve been S on wowhead?

primal jetty
blazing condor
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Then idk

devout parcel
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yeah im not 100% on the S but i saw that it was decent enough

full violet
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Running bone from SBG rn

warm plinth
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Blazehoof, whetstone

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Hunger of the Pack

orchid frigate
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or go like naowh with stormeaters boon πŸ™‚

cinder storm
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To all who don't know, you can snap last boss AV into third boss arena with tricks

blazing condor
orchid frigate
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ah sorry

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was memeing as well tho

lusty grotto
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hooves as well

full violet
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Gotta farm hunger of the pack, bone is not that good

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Got rumbling ruby on too. Id like hunger and hoof tho

limpid anchor
warm plinth
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Because they were talking about M+ trinkets

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not raid

orchid frigate
heavy temple
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I've had 2 issues in a 20 and 21 TJS yesterday.
I don't understand Haunting Gaze. Why does this sometimes not even do damage and sometimes hit me for like 75% hp? This happens every dungeon, I do not understand it for the life of me.
Also, how do I live the 3rd boss. I use LS + SR, SW, SpB+SR and 4th one is external + cookie + HP pot. During this I sometimes just die, unless I use cookie/ pot in the first 3 sets. In the end, I just used hp pot and cookie during the first sets and was just soulstoned for the 4th.
Do you just use lust/CDs for the middle phase or how do you actually live this on higher keys?

blazing condor
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saw a 23 yesterday and they lusted last boss

warm plinth
heavy temple
warm plinth
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You should have that for like every other one

full violet
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Yea CDs in jade phase 100%

warm plinth
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The hardest part of the fight is probably getting your DPS to not burn CDs on pull

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:/

jagged pier
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U cant preemtivily use Ls

heavy temple
warm plinth
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It's only 10 rage πŸ‘€

jagged pier
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The 30% hp its give eats the healing absorb

warm plinth
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Yeah, you wanna use it after you get the dot for sure

heavy temple
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oooooh

warm plinth
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The initial hit is sizeable but it's nothing compared to the dot

heavy temple
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LS after you get hit

full violet
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100-70% ez af, 30-0% ez af. 70-40% needs to be blasted hard

jagged pier
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The absorb is more of an issue

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Not the hit itself

heavy temple
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I did not know thats how LS worked with this mechanic