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Lol
In the meantime, we can enjoy the sentinels in Halls of Valor. Solidifying themselves as the most annoying mobs to ninja pull in history.

I've never tried the beer on them. Are they affected by it?
The King's are... So, I'd be surprised if they weren't.
Not sure, I've never tried to use it on them
I'll run into a mythic 0 and give it a go tomorrow, see what happens.
Back in legion we always used one on the center pack and then shrouded or invis potted past them
Or just pulled them since they aren't that bad with the movespeed buff
I usually take 3 of them upstairs with the first king
That just sounds annoying ๐
It is. ๐
Especially since you lose the movespeed buff once you get up there
Yeh, its an old ability but i wrote a long ass response but i realized i'm just nervous about it, thinking I need, this, or that and build up route with that in mind.
But end of the day, i just gotta get that shit done with 4 other semi competent people. I gotta stop thinking the entire run is on my shoulders and mine alone.
RLP has a quite lenient timer so you can just take it slow.
Yeah man, at a certain point, the group has to pull its weight.
physical bleeds are almost always healer checks
because almost every tank has a way to beat magic dot
but physical dots are not reduced by armor nor is it reduced by most of any tanks kit
Tell that to blazing chomp... My poor spell reflect, he just couldn't keep up the poor guy. ๐ฆ
Blazing Chomp is a healer... dispel check. Haha
Relatively confident you can dispel seering wounds as well though in RLP.
Yeah, that shit hurt so bad. You're just panicking like DISPEL DISPEL
Which boss and dung is it ?
Mechagon: Workshop. ๐
the point is that most forms of tank mitigation dont work on bleeds
You can dwarf it off, but it's not dispellable
its a bleed.
only heals do
evokers can dispel it, or you can dwarf it off
or defensives
thats it
That'll be it. The evokers.
armor gain, shield block, stagger, all rarely work on bleeds
idk about stagger since thats walways weird
100% theres some bleed removal item hidden away somewhere that'll work
Stagger does work on bleeds; it's just generally classed as magic stagger for whatever reason
So it still hurts
ah yeah
and since bleed takes a while to tick
RIP old SotR
its usually the healers job to keep you topped
Where's my steward? I need some of that life juice.
I love that they didn't include bleeds in bitter immunity
They were like enough of this phial shit
yeah lets just make bitter even more shit of a talent
Its more of pvp talent tbh
its garbage there too in comparison to other classes talent trees.
I miss having Berserker Rage... Not like I ever need it but, I could always count on it.
every fear is so obviously telegraphed
Yeah fortunately it doesn't have much use this season
and usually group-wide so its an auto wipe anyways
Every fear is kickable I believe, even in the dungeons we don't have rn
The only fear I'm concerned about is the Haunting Scream. I never pull more than two. Fairly managable at that I think.
3rd boss nok has a fear but if you get hit by it..
oh yeah the aoe
and the ones that you are meant to avoid are terrifies
which dont work
like shriekwing
I always stick to the leaping add anyway
Since the other boss will inevitably come there
Is Storm-Eater's Boon a good trinket for Prot? I just got a 408 one with leach on it
Define good ๐
It does great damage, but being rooted for 10 seconds can be real spicy
You have to know where you can use it safely
Can you remove the buff manually early if you need to move?
No
This is like 30ilvls higher than any other trinket I have, with the strength and 233 leech would it be useful without using the ability over lower pieces? Or should I still look for a tanking effect one to use?
The strength alone probably makes it better than a lot of trinkets. But it depends on what the other trinkets are.
Leech isn't really something you take into account barring identical pieces
Ok, thanks for the help
So is this elemental lariat best necklace in slot?
Yes, key point is best necklace. You still don't prioritize it over e.g. a higher ilevel weapon or shield craft.
anyone have a tracker for 2 set
Is it worth tracking? I thought it was best to stick to the normal rotation even with 2 piece.
Not worth tracking imo
Yeah you don't change rotation for 2pc
So boys, what kind of sanguine healing #s do you typically see at the end of your PUG keys? Obviously it can vary a fair bit by dungeon
I'm ending up at around 20M pretty frequently, feels like I could probably improve quite a bit
20m thats too much
That isn't really something I look at. I just pull shit out
If it gets healed, I tried ๐คท
Where do you typically clock in at?
It's going to be higher in higher keys as well, because it heals a % of mob HP
I'm running 16s primarily for reference
28mil in Nokhud. 3mil in Court of Stars. It's going to vary.
Had 53m in a NO 20 and timed it lol
6m if i do good 10m if i dont do enough
My 28mil was in a 15+ and we failed the time because we wiped on last boss.

on what level keys though Deep
16-19
Is your group doing much to evenly DPS mobs and stun low health targets?
Honestly, the adds there are absolute turds. All of 'em cast some nonsense, I wish the shaman and evoker used their push more often but, ultimately I could've just done better. ๐
I find my pugs do neither most of the time
Casters tend to be the main reason ichor is high
the tempests in RBL like to stand in Ichor doing their whole rotation
I have 38 interrupts in Nokhud. Mage has 18... We had a shaman with 6... What's that?
This is what i am doing all time but they do a knock back which 50% drop pack into a pool
normal pug life

Damm thats too much kick
I'm impressed to see a Mage with any interrupts to his name. ๐
25 kick my last record
My last key the monk was RoPing mobs back into the longbowman in Nokhud so he could AoE them
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That was fun
I do like a good DK but, as it stands right now. It's hard to give them the death-balls they need and want.
Absolutely, too many priority kicks in most dungeons
It's not the stacking, it's the pools of blood under the immobile mobs
That one too but mostly good with mass pulling
Dont need to worry about dps pulling out of his cds on one adds while i am mass pulling
Hopefully, the next set gives them their time in the light
Next week I'm only inviting ranged dps.
What is next week afflix ?
Ahh, that's not too bad.
Hard to name a fun affix combo this season
are there any gear slots to particularly focus on upgrading w/ valor? other than wep/shield
Just bullshit and less bullshit
IMO, upgradeable tier pieces.
But only if they're already up there
valor cap is no joke
how do i get aggro on the second wave of moving trees during academy treeboss
aoe taunt
dont have any tier, just running keys. im valor capped so gotta spend something lol
oh, second set, have your group stacked nicely
yeah so i aoe taunt the first wave of moving treants. what about the second
Ravanger and shield charge
If they're spread a bit you can ravager in one area, move and TC
Bs trinket or neck, ring p
valor stays in your bank, no need to spend it right now. Also, tier can show up in M+ row.
when is the real push week? in a month?
Unless you need that extra push to start doing 16s I would hold it.
This week was nice I thought.
Your group should be hard stacking to group the mobs up together. At that point send all your AoE to secure threat
alright. this boss is hella unforgiving for pugs.... are yall coming to that same conclusion?
The boss requires a lot of coordination to pull off cleanly
its a nice change from first 2 weeks but still bit meh.
Absolutely
gross euro date format
ye why have it logical
spiteful is a pain, but this week is not really a push week since we are undergeared
is there anyway i can press M to open up my map and look at arrow routes for mythic dungeons?? i tried MDT but i dont like having to type /mdt to open up that map everytime
Sure man idk why i see a lot 2.5k people
nice and sassy, i still think a lot of people are not pushing, mostly focusing on vaults
why? You just move and they despawn after a while?
it slows you down in most keys by a bit at least
sucks for melee
so what is the best affixes then?
Tbh you can easily pug 18 keys
because sang slows you down too
Every week is a good week atm as peopleโs ilvl keeps going up.
probably these ones, when you have gear, but i am also not a world first mythic plus guy, also yes 18's are pretty ez
There really aren't any great weeks; this is probably the best one in the rotation tbh
At least Bursting/Grievous is done.

haha bolstering storming what a game
use keystone.guru on a different monitor
if you have one
but tbh routes are so easy this season, you will probably memorize them fast enough
Did a weekly no leaver 20 av, shit was though
2nd Boss was intense and Last Boss aswell
Waas intimidating shout removed from Prot? D:
It is in the class tree towards the middle top
I see it now, ty
does 1-hand weapon spec affect all damage if you have a 1-h equipped or just weapon-based abilities like revenge?
All damage, except like trinkets and shit
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the last "no leave" id ever wanna do is AV
iirc for 418 recrafts we wanna do shield before weapon?
ofc
Anyone have tips for 3rd boss in Temple? Did a 17 and was getting omega-fragged by the dot.
spell block / double wall are a must.
hp pots, health stones, and IV help with the heal absorb
and last stand
Random question, how many recast of IP do you guys get in a run?
last stand is giga on her
a lot
like over 400?
Thanks
Probably not that many but it depends
I'm having a uptime of 75-95% but my recast are insane
just don't want to waste rage when I don't need too
ip less revenge more 
You spend rage on revenge, and you use it on IP if you can't prevent overcapping with revenge/sb alone
You don't need to worry about having x% uptime
Eh been bitched at all week by healers for not having enough uptime
made a macro, but it feels like it eats my Rage
Sounds like a them problem
have it macro'd to SS
yeah don't do that
What part does spell block mitigate?
The initial hit
I'd say spell block is more for the dark claw assholes in that dungeon than the 3rd boss
Well I learned something new today. We just have been CCing the Sha in last group and blowing up the rest and the 18 it was doable. I am assuming I can make it way easier with SB though so Iโll have to try that. Thanks for the tip.
Yeah unless you can blast the shit out of that pack, you might still have to CC one/kite at some point
But spell blokc is a big help after you've used reflect
Good to know huge help, thank you.
Can you use Howling Rune and Primal Whetstones at the same time?
Double Wall is not a must o.o
Even on a +20 it's pretty chill. Just make sure you have all your CD's ready and pair them with IV/Health pot / LS etc.
And let your DPS'ers hold CD's for the 2nd phase.
Never forget that LS counts as a heal.

For pugs i feel its a must
@ionic fern hi ily
Good morning.
9/10 everyone blows everything on pull and you sit through 70-30% waaayy longer then you want
"HEllo, please don't use CD's on pull, 2nd phase is scary, thank you".
And if they do, bonus, you can frown disappointedly at them
yeah ive tried lol
@warm plinth went to work yesterday - no snow, everything had melted.
Woke up today, barely could get to work since so much snow.

dang
Had to literally ram myself into the parking spot.
ikr
i supervise 3 snow removal crews, shits been brutal this year
Doesn't snow that often in this part of the country. We get cold temps and a decent bit of freezing rain though, which is worse x_x
This was last year after a night of snow.
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Yeah we haven't had a winter that bad since the year I moved here, back in 2010
Let your crew clean my parking spot. ๐ฆ
Pretty sure i won't be able to get out at the end of the day since it's around 0 degrees right now so the snow is all "wet" and it's going to -10 in the afternoon.

yikes
I'm doing mine as Fury since i got wpn/shield.
But still hope for that 421 Strike Twice.
we going prot for me 
fury praying for 1h or grieftorch
Does opening as fury vs prot just change weapons and trinkets?
Yes.
Why not open as arms
Jeah.
I forget fury can even use one hands
Because they need to just let SMF lay down and die like it's been trying to do since its inception
No.
My brightest memories of playing Fury Warrior is from Vanilla when i was running around with 2 one handers.

Any suggestion what talent to switch to get intervene (looking for bosses like last in azure vault for more mobility)
Bleed or Shockwave most probably?
You shouldn't need it.
Pain and Gain, Bounding Stride, Sidearm, shit like that
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But yeah that's not a dungeon I'd run it
I assumed he just wanted more distance covering spells
yeah like getting away from orbs
not the dungeon, only last boss in that case
Tell your healer to heal more ๐
stupid question but uh do you all swap talents based on the dungeon? lol
Well yeah but it's not like you're gonna walk out of the dungeon to swap talents, so you'd have to use it the entire run
xD never had an AV where I dont get all orbs ^^
Still.
Yeah, depending on the dungeon
u can swap in dungeon since DF, like WL do in jade
No you can't
They have to go outside to swap
You can do it in Temple because the entrance is literally right there
no, you cant. i made that mistake of forgetting to swap in a m+
The change they made was that you didn't have to be rested/use a tome to do it
And you can do it in raid/non-m+
yeah I know, as always. was possible as kyrian before in SL too
thanks for removing this mind error ๐
If you open vault as fury can you still get the trinket from eranog?
Or do you need to be prot
next step: raiding grocery store
check dungeon journal
switch spec, if its in yur loot table for that specc u can loot it from vault
So i guess thats a yes?
just look at dungeon journal
That's misleading. Because technically all of those specs can win it with an offspec roll
You need to check the in-game dungeon journal, set it to fury, and see if it's there
Lies and slander
healers can't dispell anything
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do u guys use rend?
and how do i deal with taunts if someone aggro-ed?
Do healers have to heal tanks more now compared to,,, dunno, SL? Like a lot more. It's probably low secondary stats and pushing keys a good 10 ilvls above me, but wondering how you guys at 395+ feels.
Hit it harder
nothing should really be able to pull off you
Thatโs just you
Sl tanks were made of paper compared to now
snap threat is kinda sus sometimes if dps get really ahead of themselves but you can shout to get it if it comes to it
This is a conversation i had with my healer yesterday in a +19 Vault:
Me: "Woah, that pull was scary af"
My healer:"I diddn't even heal you".
401 ilvl, pushing into 18s pugging, feel like a brick wall.
Guys, off channel
I have spend around 50k to make azureweave bags
they are 34 slot bags. Which is unique
I dont see why they dont sell
thanks, good to know. Does it apply to most tanks as well? Or is it only a warrior thing?
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I think it is more personal.
This game is about teamwork
Iโm 387 and only doing 11s Iโm scared of going higher, tried a 12 SMBG and got smacked and died, group disbanded ๐ฆ
If you cant find one. You cant succeed
the mobs before the second boss you mean?
Not even, right before the first boss
What dungeons is spell block best for. Thanks
you can range the shadow slash thing too
i just aggro'd and ran backwards until my cd as up and they never hit me during
Yeah thatโs definitely my problem, I donโt know o could just face tank them
i mean you can if you have defensives
I guess there is a lot more to it when you go up the keys, need to be much more mindful of skills
on fort week i just shield wall there
you dont need shit for the boss
you can spell reflect for the mitigation
if you're running spell block i believe it works there? i forget, check the sheet
Do you run prot stance in higher keys?
i'm just getting into 20s
but i'm still in battle stance
there are times for certain pulls where i'll swap to def b/c im still unsure how much it's gonna hurt
but for the most part i still tank trying to pretty much maximize damage
i tank with boon and whetstone tho lol so maybe im just trolling
lol
RLP/TJS/AV
I can see unbreakable will being played on top keys next week. Especially tjs
Man my drops are absolutely cursed
I have like 14 cloaks and chests and 3 puzzleboxes
But everything else refuses to drop
if you miss to loot boe on trash, will it also appear in mailbox or?
no blizzard sells it to cover server fees
damn it
first boss of AV, whats a good way to position/aim the boss consistently to hit a bunch of sprouts with the cleave?
Does anyone have any issues with plater not showing you losing threat in mid combat? I was insistent that I wasn't losing threat, but death recap + my own party frame ui confirms that I lost threat but the names didn't change to red. These are my settings, are they set up correctly to change to red when not top of aggro on specific mob?
Outer ring, aim it at 2 groups while standing on the first one. You don't need to hit 2 groups though unless your party sucks at doing the rings.
put in mid, aim it through the mid trees at another set
thanks, this was what i was doing tentatively but wanted to know if there was some secret big brained strat or w/e
gosh im happy to say goodbye to sanguine
Rogues tend to get greedy on that boss and don't do their job in my experience. It's more up to everyone than you alone as long as you got one grouping.
Thank you
So should I craft the 418 bracers with vers embellishment or get armor spikes???
i cant figure it out
they are just as bad as each other
lol for real?
it doesnt matter
what should i get
wich trinkets are the best?
bracers
even if I am doing only m+?
yeah
man why tanks always trying to flex on my alt.. some dude pulled a trash pack in tjs didnt interrupt the fear, and was flexxing his io when i questioned him.. 2 interrupts entire dung
HAHAAHAHA

Just because you are used to interrupting the fear as a tank doesn't mean that every tank is doing that.
i dont get it if u know its a fear why did u interrupt?
nah i was busy tanking another pack with fear, and they pulled a completely seperate pack in that courtyard
Does our 'cheat death' capstone work? ๐ค
As in if I'm at 31% health and get hit for 35% will it trigger after 1% and give 80% dmg reduction to the rest of the damage? Or do I actually have to drop below 30% for it to trigger?
Overall? That does seem wrong. Your SS should be higher.
I know right?
And 35k..is like 10k lower than what i do in my worst dungeons.
damn im doing 20k less than you on my prot :(
403
394 ilvl I am. I dont know if there should be a huge difference in that regard. Anyway.
Few things I want to say.
I spam revenge like crazy as you see
362 casts
Also clap like crazy
Should you ever drop Barbaric Training so you can use Revenge more often to utilize 2 piece set?
I don't use Barbaric in dungeons, at all.
Only in raids to parse.
Doesnโt it make sense for barb to be better in m+
I feel like the rage economy in raid doesnโt allow barb
Talking of raid parses - I often get 90-97% parses in M+ but can't even break into the 40s in raids. Am I doing something wrong?
Easily does.
Your rage economy in m+ is just a lot higher
M+ parses isnโt real
I dont understand how parses are calculated in m+
Sure. But i'm also actively tanking 100% of the time.
Always thunder clap, then always shield slam.
Spennt excess rage on ignore pain for cdr from anger management, and if you don't have clap nor slam up, that's when you revenge
I mean, it was an 11 key, and I went completely boggu to be honest
You can't rly check dmg in an 11, stuff dies fast ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Probably.
Analyse your logs.

Also, to shit myself a bit more, I only had 70% shield block uptime
My bets:
-Wrong ability prioritisation
-Wrong talents
-Pressing buttons too slow
-Wasted rage.
The usual.
Irrelevant information.
You need to look at effective block up-time from logs.
I definitely hit IP too often and cap rage - might just record some pulls and go back and review. Have no idea how to properly analyse logs
Step 1: Know your class
Step 2: Check your log
Step 3: Profit.
Or just pick another log of the same fight with similar length and check the differences.
Casts/Rage/buffs etc
You have to actually drop below 30% for it to trigger.
It's not a cheat death really. It's just an oh shit I dropped really low
Thought so, fucking worthless in high m+ then xd
Damn..it's like we've been saying it forever.
Yeah the main point of BSV is so that people who screw up (like people new to the spec) don't just instantly die
It's just a crutch talent so you can be saved from incompetence periodically
@ionic fern here's a 70% parse on HC Council - anything you can see wrong from this?
Cool.
Here's a 99 parse on HC council i did on the first kill ages ago.
Anything you can see wrong ?
moar revenge pls
Revenge!
Next week I get my revenge.
i mean theres a lot more than just revenge in there but linking a damage breakdown is fucking useless
Here's Mythic council from yesterday.
All the revenge

heroic throw saving the parse
16 ips? How does that even work
Im so lost rn
you just press revenge 
You must have 4 pc
I need some help please.
are there any tricks with the 3rd boss in TJS?
The Jade Serpent Strike just destroys me regardless of what I do.
I get trucked for 260k+ and that + the dot and the absorb spells doom
I tried using CDs to mitgate the damage but even with multiple CDs stacked I just died...ticked to death.,
I did not charge right back in but the healer was not able to keep up..had this problem now 3 times
Is there anything I can do ?
I only have 2 riperoni
Use impending victory, last stand, health pots, healthstones to help remove the healing absorb
teach me the ways
What ways?
I was asking last night, if 4p means u dont press ip anymore, and couldnt find a clear explanation
4p does not mean that
Ppl still said u need to press it a lot
Talent into double Wall if needed, and/or spell block, rotate cd's
You don't NEED IP (outside of burst CD's where you IP to avoid rage overflow)
and health pots+stones
Especially not on Council.
So all your rage goes into Revenges.
What's there to teach.
so was i twice
thx
i dunno your boon did 5.5k dps compared to my totem which did 1k
and u were only 900 dps ahead
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Is this the pissing contest channel?
And what?
am i not allowed to be?
You are, i just answered his question.
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Just linked images above.
Was a blast of a fight.
Ignored TC and just spammed Revenge.

i mean u should be outbursting TC tbh
Yeah, you're correct.
But as i said, i literally ignored TC.
Just wanted to see what a full blast Revenge does.
?
can you see what talents people are running on Warcraft Logs?
yes
summary page
Mwahi plays?
Is 4pc really that big a survivability gain?
I mean no
It definitely makes everything smoother
he is playing this expansion
But it's not class-defining
This expansion owns
It's nothing like prior tier sets have been, recent memory being Outburst in SL or the entirety of BDK in S3/4
more specifically BDK
thats the point
Ye
It's a strong tier set, but it's not gonna revolutionize the class or suddenly enable content
just makes you kick more ass and feel safer while doing so
I canโt time +12s because I do not have 4set yet 
pugs will want u to believe that
hell yeah they will
It's definitely not them running from the tank trying to clear their thundering. I just need to press defensives 4head
slightly off topic, but does /yell work in instances? I'm trying to make a "don't kick, spell reflection is up" weakaura and wanted to make sure that the yell channel works
well
let's talk about how bosses yell
You press defensives when they run away from you and you have to take a full pack and 5sec of stun ๐
then spell reflect
tbh I'd prefer them to still kick
because then they're actually kicking
makes me feel bad that muh damage
But at least they care about us clearing ๐
i keep coming across booomys without a kick because one of the top io guys is not running it because hes group built around him not having it
so that fun

note to self to not invite dps doodads
don't worry
I make people spec into a kick or the key doesn't start
in 10.0.5 they won't have a choice but to have a kick
Its massive dps loss for boomies
yeah they can't even take solar beam rn
it's dumb
but in 10.0.5 it'll be at the top of their tree
basically have to take it to get down the tree
i dunno i played with a boomy that does more dps than these druids and they run solarbeam
Yeah but the top io guy is doing it so clearly it's correct
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Yes, join the darkside
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Why do people like Sustained Strength over Waking Stats for chest then?
no idea
Though, the majority of my game enjoyment comes from being able to play m+ in a group again.
When ever i have to PuG cause no one is on i just quit.
I've been doing that thing where I stay in arms spec for offensive trinkets but I still have a 370 shield...
Oh no I have no excuse anymore this is horrible
Glad. For me its the opposite, almost all quit in 9.3
m+ is all i do
did eranog for the first time yesterday but now i dont have to go back
Did you get weapon/shield/trinket?
for dps probably yeah
You can't sim survival. You can sim for DPS just like you can for the DPS specs. For survival, just equip highest ilevel items
And then go 20% haste > Vers > Crit > Mastery ?
no
For say 2 items of same ilevel, but one has haste + vers other has vers + mastery?
Idk where this 20% or 25% number keeps coming from
id actually need a better wep so no you're right. got a 411 shield though
There are no breakpoints for any of our stats
Really? Thought Haste had a sort of diministhing return
If you had two items of same ilevel you'd prio haste>crit=vers>mast
Craft it.

All secondaries have diminishing returns, but a.) they don't even start until 30% worth of rating, and b.) it's only a 10% DR at that point, which isn't remotely enough to stop going for haste
need one more 16+ for a super infusion
then i might recraft my wep i already have
Just means that instead of 170 rating giving you 1% haste, it would give you .9% haste
Thanks a lot ๐
Shield>Weapon>Whatever else
okey
besides the fact i messed up my entire mining talent tree it's actually very nice just flying around and mining 
who needs therapy when you can hit rocks
idk man maybe just me but i guess u cause yknow, you hit rocks like a prison innmate 150 years ago
Been getting tilted today though with overcharging
First one was a hardened node where the shards went inside a cliff where I couldn't get them. Second one was a molten node where the fire elemental evade bugged for a full minute before I could kill it
There is zero reason to overload titan
You don't get order from overloading titan
You get it from the base node, but you don't get more for overloading it
u do
You don't
u get rousing order
I've been farming for a week and a half straight

All overloading a titan node does is open a portal to another random node that isn't titan
I do...
I have to agree with Ghash. I have only seen portals open
I've never gotten extra order from overloading a titan node
u get order anyway
I'm even specced into titan nodes
i dont have overload crap and i get order all the time
Because I listened to a bad suggestion
You do get rousing order when overloading titan nodes
Please explain where you get the order from
How does Battle-Scarred Veteran work exactly? If I take damage equal to 100% of my hp when at full health, do I die or does it dynamically reduce the damage that would bring me below 30%?
is this "rousing order" in the room with us right now?
You would die
You get some from overloading as well as mining
I would love to see where you're seeing that
if its one hit, you die
Because overloading doesn't give you anything on any node. Overloading does something to the node, and you get the extra element from that something. All overloading titan nodes does is open a portal to another node.
Which is just a normal node
I've done it many times. I have never gotten extra order from it
You're the one claiming you get something for it; you go get the screenshot ๐
Itโs a common knowledge
Ok
That overloading titan
Is the best value
Youโre the one saying you donโt get anything
has anyone made a sim today? my sim is -10% with the same gear
yea and the same today
Can you link them both?
Best guess is the APL does funky shit because it's not designed for dungeon slice. I just added buffs to the bottom sim and it lost damage so
before overloading
after overloading
after mining
yer that 8 rousing really is nothing
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no idea but its dungeon slice u shouldnt sim that
damn jakey spare some gold pls
guess where i got that gold from
skyhold
maybe its because i overload titan touched
stormforged salary
^
i fucking wish
literally should be working instead i flew around to find a titan touched node to prove a point
Maybe it is because you overloaded it. Congrats, you win.
Congrats, you win.
Good, I would have done it myself later if you didnโt
As long as you got that juicy gather while mounted, you're at least somewhat okay ๐
You kept arguing about something thatโs not true and you got a proof about being wrong. Stop being so salty about it
i have 40
I said congrats... you win
i dont even have that 
I don't understand what the problem is
What would you like me to say?
Almighty Neetec and Jakey, I bow down to your superior knowledge and beseech your forgiveness for my mistaken information. Please see it in your hearts to grant me mercy.
Is that cool or you wanna keep going on about it lol
They seem to, yeah
yes
When will you apologize to me?
ok nvm then
but hang on
๐ญ what did I do to you Mwahi
LOL
22-25!!!!
I'm sorry I missed some days Mwahi
The 31st!!!
doesn't look that bad tbh Jakey
ily x infinity
is there a cap on mining knowledge or can you theoretically get as much as you want
Uh, I imagine the cap is when you fill out all the trees?

But that's gonna take forever with how hard it is to get knowledge
40 points in metallurgy could have gone somewhere else but getting 3 star illumitied diamonds is cool thats a 35k node right there
pog
well not hard, but how long it takes to get
i put a buncha points into draconium thinking i did something
Oh man
theres a soft cap each week u can get to really fast then its like very very small chance to get knowledge
bruh just let us reset our trees
u can spam dungeons for dragon shards as well

ikr
I legit did mastering the elements and put a few points into all of them.
Cause i had no idea what was going on.

literally all i read is "i put points into this cus i didnt know better"
from everyone
and now everyone wants to reset
Ideally you wanna focus on the starter node that gives you the gathering while riding first
Because it saves a bunch of time if you farm regularly
THERE IS SUCH A THING????????????
yeah
yes
honestly it doesnt save that much time
like a second or two each node
which ads up eventually sure
yer capping normal minig process gives it to u
Well, it has the bonus effect of being able to land in a bunch of mobs, snatch up the node rq, then leaving
the fact that you cant even remove the profession and re-do
im hostage to my own mistakes 
For Mining it's the Mining Process main node, and for herbalism it's the Botany node
I'm surprised there's no catch-up for knowledge yet tbh. Alts or people just coming back are at a huge disadvantage
okay 
also please take impending virctory instead of something else
Hello ๐ is the trinket from Nokhud Offensive worth farming for?
What trinket drops from there?
well as raid has our best trinkets
no not worth farming it
have heard its good tho
It sims high iirc
I'm surprised you guys discover this that late, don't you read big nodes/notches on specialisations ?
You are now able to gather ore while mounted ๐
That's all I needed to know ๐
true
In the end it made me mine much more than usual
Lot of the times the portal just ports to itself :xdd:
Because mining from the dragon helps with lazyness of having to re-mount after each node
i just wanna make money tbh
ez go mine
Big
Went form 770k to 993k by selling my bank of ores/engi stuff
All of that because of mining from dragon beats lazyness
couple of hours mining can be anywhere from 60-200k depending how lucky i am
is overloading peak money
ye
idk I usually overload the first node I get
as i said i only overload titan
overloading molten makes no sense akawened fire is like 100g
compared to earth which is a 1k
you can also swim in lava to remove it, as long as it triggers the breath bar
compared to awakened which is like 2.5k
Go farm the titans for the orbs
For enchanting idr what they are called
glowing titan orb?
Yes
thats an arse farm tho
theyre just a bit spicy
Yes but its easy 100-150k/hr
bro why does decoration of flame have the "Vine Boom" sound effect when you use it
catches me off guard every time
For now
true but at one time i was getting more than this from mining in an hour and can still get more than this with some luck
plus i can watch a series while mining
and turn off brain

grown up
dont play their game mwahi
I'm going through gold so fast tho.
๐
And i've tried mining(gathering)..i get bored/sick after 15m.
I admit
I bought 2 tokens this tier
Down bad
yer i know I think ive made like 1 mil fro mining and ive probably spent that on consumables and enchcants

๐
bought 60 r3 potions yesterday for us to then use a caludron

No time to boost so no income from that 
๐
I went down to like 4k gold before buying token 

Mining with the interract button is great too
Phials/enchants are just draining money. ๐ฆ
das why u put your map in the middle of your screen
and then put a show on the other screen
and brain afk
naaah, I usually use farm HUD
or i just son't and buy a token takes 2 minutes and i'm set
๐
got a house to pay, don't wanna buy a token
my dragon got stuck in a rock and i dc'd now im stuck on loading screen trying to log in again 
Just boost some keys and make million + in 1 hour

boosting is a disease don't @ me
Log into a different char first
i dont boost after the changes and stuff
source : weeb pfp's do it
Stay disconnected 15 min and try again.
What changes
Itโs just 1 big guild now :)
Ye that one is just spam connect until it works
Or use the stone
means i dont do it
Dragon dc
I'm a bit unsure what to craft, I got a Lariat but my weapon is a 415 Strike Twice and Shield is 408 Crystalized Bulwork
It literally insta dc you, cant log into char
just need to wait for it to reset basically
Ah i use another pg for 1-2 hour and then play my main
When i use 1 alt for 1-2 hour then i can login my main is the same thing that was happened to me
whats the best 4 tokens for 4 set for prot?
seems like everything apart from legs are dogwater
and shoulders
Depends if u craft helmet. If not u probably skip chest
depends on how much vigor i have
if i have 1 vigor im not going down for a plain serevite
depends where they are
only go into caves for rich or higher
Helmet, Legs and Shoulders all have Haste, so you're going to take those 3. Then ideally Gloves for the 4 set, because the Chest has a higher item budget for you to get Haste from a crafted or dropped piece
While Mastery is definitely our weakest secondary, it isn't wise to completely eliminate it; all of the secondaries act multiplicatively with each other for damage purposes
but just get lucky from vault instead
mastery is dope
crit gang
You need to have some Mastery
with how tanky prot already is is it even worth going for 4set instead of 2set + items that actually have good stats on them. Stats on the tier pieces seem kinda mid
source it was revealed to me in a dream
ahem FUCK mastery
this message brought to u by haste crit gang
oh im haste crit
but its more which is our 3rd and 4th best stat
not what our best our
i think hat is the worst tier
Not at my PC right now, but I'm sitting at around 3.5k Haste & Crit, 1k Vers and Mastery
assuming you can get nice legs from vault
because leg ilvl is a bit shit
unless ur a mystic raid gamer ๐ง๐ปโโ๏ธ
i saw 
was it a steamer
pog
๐ธ
Catalyst unlocks mid-January?
im fiending for some fuckin blizz patchnotes
gimme a hotfix
a 2% aura buff to holy priests
anything blizz please i mdyin
Spark will also change its ratio?
of stats? no they're fixed
Like 1/w?
they become rare drops
Ah
i believe
i'ev heard its like legion legos
Yap
How are you dying? Prot isfucking immortal played correctly
softcapped weekly
Rare Drops
please dont quote me eve player
Lol
overall/ m+ embellishments, which ones do u wanna use? ๐ if any
guessing waist maybe?
and neck ofc

Sim yourself.

