protection

[somber shell]

it would be faster than waiting 4 weeks for sparks

[brisk gust]

Frozen devotion or Sophic devotion

[neon elk]

We get last spark same day catalyst opens ?

[jagged pier]

[solemn island]

Is it just better to always craft the ilvl upgrade ? like i have 402 heroic raid shield and sword and lowest ilvl for me are boots , do i jsut go for it ?

[strong forum]

Shield and weapon are prio slots

As they're the biggest contributors to dmg/survival respectively

Getting 30ilvl on boots is nothing compared to 16ilvl on weapon/shield

[last mason]

whats the difference between illimited diamond ranks

[strong forum]

Increased chance on higher quality craft

But you can't guarantee r5

[last mason]

gotcha

[strong forum]

So just use r2 mats

[brisk gust]

Sophic Devotion or Frozen Devotion?

[strong forum]

That's a sim question

[brisk gust]

Haven seen people on leaderboards play diffrent

[strong forum]

Sophic gets better the more ilvl you have, frozen is better with lower ilvl

[brisk gust]

So Sophic if ur planning for the future? those enchants cost like 100k+

I've 403 ilvl

[strong forum]

Just get a lower ranked sophic

Until you know you won't swap weapon anytime soon

I'm using sophic writ 3 for example

[brisk gust]

Think its gonna be hard to find better than 418 crafted weap no?

[strong forum]

Yes, only vault can drop that

Or high tier mythic raid bosses

[bitter jewel]

Am i popping rend in my opener on a pack to apply it across all targets? Wowhead guide doesnt show rend in opener

[strong forum]

So 418 is a sophic devo r3 craft

[strong forum]

Don't use rend

[tame jasper]

u dont have rend in your bars

[brisk gust]

120k gold ugh

[rotund thicket]

remove rend from your bars, thunderclap does it for you

[strong forum]

Thunderclap automaticallu applies it

[bitter jewel]

oh shit okay thanks

[strong forum]

Your choice

You don't have to use max enchants

Lower ranks are better than none at all

[last mason]

if you make a 405 crafted item, can you recraft later once you get the concentrated essense

[strong forum]

Yes

[last mason]

or do you need to remake the whole item

you can?

[strong forum]

That's the point of recrafting

Yes

[tawny monolith]

If i have a 402 neck and a 392 weapon should i craft weapon or lariat?

[strong forum]

Weapon

[sick sentinel]

I dont see any update on what we should be crafting - is wowhead correct we should go lariat first?

[latent hedge]

depends on current gear, shield and weapon also good choices

[sick sentinel]

roger ty

[latent hedge]

but lariat is good

[plush tendon]

Lariat is swag

but its all situational

[strong forum]

Lariat is alright, nothing special

[sick sentinel]

I have a buddy that has fallen in love with it, but I was just wondering lol

[strong forum]

It's overhyped

Af

[sick sentinel]

^^^

[plush tendon]

its a easy slot to have though

neck with your ideal stats; slap some gems in there and never replace

EZ

[strong forum]

That's the biggest upside of it yes

[wide charm]

i have 411 shield (i upgraded with valor), and have 418 weapon/lariat, should i still craft a shield or go with CR bracers ?

[plush tendon]

thats a personal preference; I think a 418 shield (if thats what you making) will do more for you

but access to a bres might be invaluable, depending on your group comp

[strong forum]

^

[last mason]

is 20k too much commission for a 405 lariat

a guy is asking for that

[plush tendon]

I mean, it was 75k like a week ago XD

[wide charm]

also, i can still upgrade my shield to 414 but i feel a bit dumb having spent all that valor on a non haste shield

[plush tendon]

the price is dropping fast though

and you can usually barter for lower

[fallen pulsar]

Commission prices kinda insane for someone to just hit the craft button with your mats lol

[strong forum]

Yeah

Lariat crafters already made multiple gold caps

If they got the recipe early

[chilly escarp]

dont we maybe wanna grrab the offensive 1hander and upgrade since its like a free damge proc?

insted of crafting

[plush tendon]

The guy on our server made 6 gold caps

[tender plank]

how do I proc https://www.wowhead.com/item=195526/seal-of-filial-duty?bonus=7935#comments as a tank war

[plush tendon]

frostfire belt

[strong forum]

Gl getting that at 418 or higher

Ilvl wins over the proc

[chilly escarp]

probably true

still not sure if i should replace this cobalt ring or not

[plush tendon]

yea... im still not sure how powerful that proc is in terms of i level

but i assume I shouldnt replace it until I get the AA ring

[fallen pulsar]

Simming would probably answer that

[plush tendon]

since I have a 418 ring from M0 quest

[chilly escarp]

does it tho ? like sure i get 900 dps but the sheild proc is doign work

[strong forum]

Yeah defensively the shield ring is massive

Borderline invaluable imo

[plush tendon]

which shield ring>?

[strong forum]

Cobalt

[plush tendon]

the raid one or cobalt

[fallen pulsar]

Oh you meant the defensive cobalt

[plush tendon]

😮

[last mason]

wait how do you get mutliple sockets on a lariat

dumb question

[fallen pulsar]

Thought you meant the damage one

[strong forum]

Tiered medallion setting

[plush tendon]

buy a rank 2 and a rank 3 setting

use rank 2 first

then rank 3

[proud dock]

wait so we using the tank ring now? im guessing for high keys? dps ring for lower keys?

[strong forum]

Yes

[torn gulch]

defensive cobalt is responsable for like 10% of my healing on the regular

[strong forum]

The tank ring is quite sexy

[torn gulch]

and i don't know when i'll replace it

[strong forum]

I been using it on 17+

[plush tendon]

is the cobalt better then the raid sheild ring?

assuming you have frostfire

[strong forum]

No

[plush tendon]

nioce

[strong forum]

The raid tank ring is like 60% better

[torn gulch]

you'll need frostfire to proc both right?

[plush tendon]

time to get the damage fire ring this week

and complete the set

[chilly escarp]

yeah resonably hard to get in theory tho however the weekly did give me the "very rare" trinekt

[plush tendon]

[plush tendon]

we had two guys get the very rare trinket in their box

its gonna show up if you clearing mythic (Eggnog and Council are super chill. Probably same difficulty as Heroic Brood)

[chilly escarp]

dont raid sadly might do them in heroic in pugs mythic plus guy only

[plush tendon]

sadge

the raid is good

would recommend

8 boss raids are da best

[chilly escarp]

aye raided a lot in the past cba these days this xpacs better than the last but it feels like either join a casual guild clear on nurf curve or go hard and your doign splits

[high drum]

i have secret larry technology

[plush tendon]

theres plenty of CE two to three night guilds

[high drum]

use 1 air gem rest frost

equal chance to proc haste and vers

but still have haste heavy gems

thank you

[last mason]

so do you just put straight air haste gems in the lariat

to make it proc haste

[high drum]

it doesnt matter where they are socketed

it checks gems in every slot

[plush tendon]

I mean, that happens when you have the air prim stat with haste and the heavy haste gems

[strong forum]

I got the vengeance incarnate idol today from heroic raid

So uh, it's not very rare it seems

[plush tendon]

it drops a lot for something "rare"

[strong forum]

Yeah

[plush tendon]

and everyone wants it

I gotta convince my raid I should get it so the people with the trinket can get the tank proc

[strong forum]

I had a havoc leave the raid cuz I didn't wanna sell it for 30k

(I did more dmg than him on council and kurog)

[plush tendon]

DPS are loot whores

[bleak scroll]

What embelishment are you guys using (besides lariat)

[strong forum]

I mean so am I

[oblique kayak]

lol try 3-4 mil XD have seen it go for that

[strong forum]

I don't even know if I'll use it

I have boon, whetstone, all-totem im set bruv

[plush tendon]

lost two of those decroation of flames trinkets first week cause our windwalkers thought it was 'really good for them'

[strong forum]

Tbf

[fallen pulsar]

Yeah 30k is nothing for raid loot lmao

[high drum]

it is good for them

[strong forum]

Flame is really good for dps

[lyric geode]

Guys, I feel my sanity is quite decreasing with the pugs.

[strong forum]

Cuz it helps them survive

Much more than it helps the tank

[plush tendon]

not when they start DEing Grimtorches 3rd week

[strong forum]

What

[high drum]

what

[oblique kayak]

lol

[high drum]

who the fuck is deing a griefy

[plush tendon]

get normal, open M0 box, get heroic one

[strong forum]

That's why you do the quest before

[plush tendon]

kind of unlucky

it was truly a tilting experience for us all; but it happens and there are plenty of chances to get it still

[sick sentinel]

i forgot how much i love sanguine

[candid coral]

Is anyone else out dpsing the dps below +10s? I know prot is pretty op right now but i consistently beat at least 2 of the dps each dungeon lol. When I play on my rogue and if I were ever to get beat by a tank I’m deleting that character sooo quick 😂

[wooden widget]

There’s a lot of shit killing my dps in pugs around +10-14

[strong forum]

I've been outdpsing every single pug I've played with

[wooden widget]

^^

[strong forum]

Every single one

[plush tendon]

pugs are bad

[candid coral]

It’s hilarious

[plush tendon]

this is the week of inflated key levels

[strong forum]

Even in raid im usually top 2-5

Cuz fuck me finding capable dps is hard

[plush tendon]

now thats rough

[ivory cedar]

Is there a macro for combining Shield Charge and just regular charge so I only have to have one button? I can't think of how to do it.

[plush tendon]

I wouldnt do that

[strong forum]

I don't recommend doing that

[plush tendon]

you want to line up Shield charge with damage amps if you can

[ivory cedar]

Ah

[plush tendon]

like demo shout and stuff

[ivory cedar]

So its not something I want to just use on cooldown, got it.

[plush tendon]

lines up everytime if you forgo Thunderlords

[ivory cedar]

Makes a lot of sense, thanks guys.

[plush tendon]

I mean, you want to use it as much as possible

but it might make sense to hold for a second to get demo on targets and if Avatar is super close to get that damage amp

[fallow osprey]

People skipping thunderlords because of the desync?

[ivory cedar]

Good to know. Thanks @plush tendon

[oblique kayak]

what’s your dds pug dmg over all? or rather yours

[plush tendon]

I think thats the way for DPS

[strong forum]

I'm between 45 and 65k depending on dungeon

Probably alot higher in AA now

But I've not done that key in like 10ilvl

[oblique kayak]

…ooook… so i’m doing smth very wrong then XD

[opal flame]

you don't revenge enough

[strong forum]

Practice makes perfect

[oblique kayak]

that for sure is one

[plush tendon]

have you tried hitting your buttons harder?

that adds damage

[blazing condor]

my logs rn are kinda ass especially my blocked hits

[oblique kayak]

notes to buy a hammer for use

[blazing condor]

gotta mash less and play more

[sick sentinel]

I like to use my kick pedal drum for interrupts

[plush tendon]

honestly, that seems like a pretty good idea

ngl

[ivory cedar]

LOL i should invest.

[sick sentinel]

Lmfao

[oblique kayak]

damn that actually sounds fun

[plush tendon]

but I have restless leg, so probably wont work for me

[opal flame]

bind this for kick 😄 https://www.amazon.co.uk/TenYua-Keyboard-Computer-Pre-Program-Functions/dp/B08DSLD1KQ/

[bold turret]

Guys, horn of valor… decent or naw?

[oblique kayak]

STOMP that kick button

[plush tendon]

its aight

[oblique kayak]

full force stomp

[blazing condor]

i played it a bit when i didnt have anything else. Felt fine for a 2min cd

[bold turret]

Can’t use raid trinkets as I only do keys

[blazing condor]

dont know how much dps i gained tohugh

[plush tendon]

nothing special about it

youd rather get a windscar if you can

[azure light]

im i right to assume that the haste u get from this does not have diminishing returns?

[plush tendon]

you are correct

no DR

[azure light]

aity

[minor helm]

Is there a follow up holiday hat dog or back to crown?

[azure light]

do i fill this bitch with haste only?

[outer sluice]

Ya’ll using whetstone?

[strong forum]

Whetstone is super good

[oblique kayak]

howling

[strong forum]

Oh you mean

The weapon consumable

[outer sluice]

Trinket

[strong forum]

Then howling rune

[blazing condor]

get the primary stat + haste gem if you dont already have it

[strong forum]

Trinket is super good

[plush tendon]

windscar awesome

10/10

[azure light]

name for that?

[outer sluice]

I got one finally

At 411

[blazing condor]

fierce illuminated gem or something

idrk

something fierce

its a crafting order

[plush tendon]

if you want to be a very risky, get the stormcaller trinket from Dethea

[outer sluice]

Need 70 rating to go 415

[plush tendon]

now that is a tank trinket

[outer sluice]

Yea, boon does a lot of dmg but idk bout using as tank lol

[plush tendon]

seems to be perfect for a tank

pop SW, blast

[strong forum]

yeah i have to often combine SW with using it

[outer sluice]

Dude, true

[strong forum]

and its kinda shit cuz mobs reposition themselve around you

but its not been lethal yet

[ivory cedar]

So, another follow-up. how important is the Cobalt Assembly ring for us starting out?

[strong forum]

its a very easy and very powerful item to get

id spend the 50min getting it

[oblique kayak]

35 in a good group

[strong forum]

been using it for 4 weeks

[plush tendon]

its hard to replace

[sick sentinel]

Kick drum Kick would be so immersive too bad I was kidding.

[plush tendon]

until you get things like the raid rings or the AA ring

[sick sentinel]

I had adhd so kicks would be messed up constantly

[outer sluice]

I got a 411 aa ring and a 421 haste/high vers ring with a socket

[ivory cedar]

I'm not, i've got the one from rock band that's USB lol

[magic mason]

hey everyone, what embellishment should a prot-warri have?

[strong forum]

non of them are must have

theres a small explanation of what some of them do in the pins

[weary python]

When you're doing high keys and IP is getting drained do you guys go into spamming it instead of revenge for dumping rage or is that sort of a fools errand?

[strong forum]

you tend to use IP a bit more often the higher you go

not aggressive amounts

and with 4pc youll start using revenge more often

[toxic gyro]

How many ilvls is roughly cobalt assembly ring worth? The one procing shield.

[noble wind]

What stats are people gearing for M+ & heroic raiding?

[sick sentinel]

oye

not good

[strong forum]

also explained in pins

a bit further down

[outer sluice]

Was that a +5?

[sick sentinel]

it was with ragnaros

ninja back pull shit on us didnt time

[shrewd walrus]

can we add specific embelishment on the third craft ?

[sick sentinel]

also sanguine

[toxic pewter]

Yah but you can only equip 2 embellishments

[ocean prairie]

guys in lariat should we put haste gems or haste/versa gems? the haste/versa gems have more budget

[strong forum]

double stat

always double stat gems

[ocean prairie]

plus the epic one?

[strong forum]

yes

[hybrid fossil]

what would be your prefered order for crafted-items?
Neck => weapon => ??

[ocean prairie]

tyty

[strong forum]

dont craft neck first if your weapon/shield isnt atleast 410++

[trail bay]

does the rank of a tinker gem matter?

[ocean prairie]

ok thanks

[hybrid fossil]

got 402 shield and a 405 neck and a 389 weapon so i think i should go for the weapon, i guess?

[strong forum]

yea

[toxic pewter]

as far as I know it may help with less malfunctions but I may be wrong. I haven’t seen it explained anywhere specifically and I have looked..

[weary python]

24 raid bosses killed and 12 vault items thus far. I haven't seen a piece of tier gear much less rolled on it. 4pc is a pipe dream at this point.

[hybrid fossil]

@strong forum thank you for your hints!

[strong forum]

im a 3pc gamer rn

[toxic pewter]

Can we remove an embellishment easily or is it an entire recraft to remove

[strong forum]

entire recraft

[toxic pewter]

Ok not end of the world

You guys do 4 mythic dungeons and get item. Anyone get anything good

[blazing condor]

that totem trinket thing thats good

[toxic pewter]

Oh nice

[blazing condor]

with the 4 elements

[toxic pewter]

That’s a good one

[blazing condor]

also got my 2p in vault so we gaming

[weary python]

Recrafting is generally much much cheaper than the original craft and doesn't use another spark.

[ember inlet]

Does our damage scale off a particular item? Like my weapon is 376 and my sheild is 369 what should i be prio-ing

[torn gulch]

got 2p in vault without even seeing the entrance to the raid

[toxic pewter]

Weapon prob most impactful to your damage.. shield most impactful to defensiveness.. I would upgrade shield personally myself.. but many do like upgrading their weapon first…

[ember inlet]

TYVM dude

[azure light]

is this the best embelishment for prot warrior if i have alchemy?

for rings

[toxic pewter]

I mean it will basically save you money…

[blazing condor]

that shit cool if you a panda

[ember inlet]

Lol

[rancid ember]

pandas legit don't hate

[toxic pewter]

True it’s actually nice quality of life

[ember inlet]

Is it this one that doesnt count towards embelishment limit ?

[toxic pewter]

Yah panda get big boost from that unironically

[lyric elm]

[toxic pewter]

Does that actually take up an embellishment slot? For some reason I remember someone saying it doesn’t take up an embellishment… or am I just completely wrong

[ember inlet]

Thats what i thought

[toxic pewter]

Anyone know?

[high drum]

its not an embellishment

doesnt count

[toxic pewter]

Right… nice..

[high drum]

just a free aditional equip on a crafted item

[azure light]

well is it good then anyway?

[toxic pewter]

Def worth getting then

[azure light]

i have no embelishment at all

[toxic pewter]

Can that go on a weapon anyone know?

The food buff one

[torn gulch]

it can go on any

[toxic pewter]

Ok cool

[torn gulch]

base item

if you did not waste your sparks you should have all 3 embelishments now

or at least the main setup

[neon blaze]

Any EU frog that can craft Primal molten defender? its cross realm right?

[torn gulch]

it is not

crafts are realm specific

[neon blaze]

aha

[torn gulch]

only commodities are cross realm

[toxic pewter]

Gotta figure out what to use third spark on

Figure I’ll do that mythic quest and vault

[torn gulch]

i did shield/weapon/neck

the easiest trio

[toxic pewter]

Yah I prob will do weapon

[torn gulch]

i have all 3 of them at 405 working on taking them to 418

[toxic pewter]

Nice

[sick sentinel]

Lmfao

[sick sentinel]

I really wanna do that

[torpid junco]

Thoughts on what to pick

[azure light]

will it though?

[toxic pewter]

What’s your second equipped embellishment you’re using

[toxic pewter]

Yeah dang it’s not cheap but perhaps in the long run hahaa…

[azure light]

in the very long run that is XD

[toxic pewter]

Yah but the quality of life is also very nice

Just setting and forgetting food

It’s worth it

[prisma echo]

Is hoof trinket worth dumping valor points on?

[torpid junco]

What is our highest prio valor dump item?

[cloud tide]

can u get spark this week?

[wind oak]

yes it's 3rd spark

[toxic pewter]

Yah they say trinkets are good valor use items

[cloud tide]

dont see quest

[peak lily]

Just go to the Forge, she will give you a quest.

[toxic pewter]

I personally used valor on a shield as I’ve had bad luck getting one and didn’t use spark on a shield apparently lol

[plain flower]

anyone got the spell reflect?

Spreadsheet

[peak lily]

Its a bit down in the pins

[weary python]

Go to where the maiden was for part 2 2 weeks ago. She has a quest there for you to go back to valdrakken. You could get the second spark and use it without completing it but you won't be able to get the third spark quest until you do it. Some of us found out about that yesterday.

Very shit game design

[toxic pewter]

Is fang adornment used by any of you guys? Is it any good?

[swift bay]

speaking of sparks, atm i have Lariat and Shield 418, it's more worth to craft the weapon 418(392 right now) or the belt to proc the ring?(got the normal ring 405 that proc a shield from raid)

[cinder storm]

I read that as dank adornment

[torn gulch]

armor spikes

[toxic pewter]

Lol I had a typo 😮

[torn gulch]

but i'll prob replace it with belt

later

we'll see

[toxic pewter]

Yah belt seems nice

[ocean finch]

Hey! What do you guys recommend crafting as third item? I have shield 418 with armor spike, Elemental Lariat 418 and can craft my third 418 now.

Ring
Waist
Legs

Thoughts?
I am only playing M+ and have 415 weap already

[ocean prairie]

weapon

[ocean finch]

I have 415 weap already

[cinder storm]

Dorki was talking about a goated crafted ring yesterday, did not pay too much attention tho, since you only do m+ the belt+ring combo is out of the question for you

So its between ring and legs imo

[toxic pewter]

I would prob just do ring

Get another socket that’s not bad

[raven thistle]

whats the fastest way to gear a fresh prot

without being funnelled

[ember inlet]

Play the game?

Do the daily rare kills

[raven thistle]

im playin the game but 5 dungeons in a row without getting loot

[ember inlet]

all brakenhide, all citadel

[raven thistle]

like r there any currency based thingies

for guaranteed catchup shit

[ocean finch]

Signet of Titanic Insight with Alchemical Flavor Pocket?
Do I need to remove my Armor spike embellishment on the shield?

[ember inlet]

Primal storms

[tawny kiln]

farm elemental storms

[ember inlet]

correct

[toxic pewter]

Hmm I would prob personally just get weapon and call it a day.,. Then make belt two weeks from now… that’s personal though the belt ring is nice and maybe the better option

[tawny kiln]

farm rep

[reef spindle]

Does 4 set prot work? Or does it have same problem as BrV talent when IP have been capped?

[raven thistle]

my gear rn xD

[strong forum]

4set works fine, nto bugged

[swift bay]

had the same idea actually

[tepid adder]

i have a question, how much haste aprox should i get before i change my stat focus ?

[reef spindle]

Taking BrV Bug into mind. It still seems better at 15+ anyone have different feeling?

[toxic pewter]

Weapon just so strong at the end of the day especially if you haven’t had luck with a high ilvl one yet

[reef spindle]

Thanks!

[swift bay]

60 m+ each week and im still with the 392 hahaha @strong forum may i ask you an opinion on that too?

[raven thistle]

battle or defensive stance when undergeared?

sometimes i lose aggro

but squishy still

[jade stump]

for someone starting as a prot warr, why i dont do as much damage as my bear or my dh around same ilvl i mean is normal? or is just learn to play situation(single and aoe scenarios)

[swift bay]

i mean, someone know if the proc of belt+ ring it's good enough?

[toxic pewter]

I think you can do simming on it and can tell you solid answer

I think it supports embellishments now

[swift bay]

how can you sim the shield ring

[echo sage]

Hey guys, quick question. googled it but can't get my head around it, I saw couple of people with m+ gear enchanted 15/13 how is that possible?

[toxic pewter]

Ohhh it’s the shield ring thing

Ya that can’t really be simmed

[swift bay]

that's why i have infinite doubts:D

[toxic pewter]

Something tells me a weapon going from 392 to 418 is better upgrade still

That’s just a big jump

[swift bay]

true that

[toxic pewter]

Haven’t seen this personally but seems interesting

[strong forum]

Clearly a skill issue

[craggy halo]

So i have 389 tier set legs in my vault, if i pick that i get the 4set activated, But i have a 415 unstable arcane lope with crit haste stats. What would you do?

[strong forum]

Clear the raid again

See what you end up with

[swift bay]

hahahaha

[strong forum]

Then re-evaluate if taking a grindable item is better than a really good fucking ring

[craggy halo]

How huge is our 4set bonus?

can we live without it for sometime?

[strong forum]

Ofc lol

People have done up to 21s without it

Tiersets aren't nearly as big as some people make them out to be

Atleast for tanks

They're like a 4% dmg and surv gain on average for tanks

They're nice to haves, not must haves, just like vers

[edgy grail]

You like any keys with BSV Nome?

[craggy halo]

Okay alright, thanks for the input. I'll go in the raid and see if i can get the legs

cheers!

[echo sage]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Gigabob#season=season-df-1

look at the gloves

[cobalt prawn]

https://prnt.sc/TAacTlgQD3BD
good trinket?

[toxic pewter]

Oh interesting those must come from the vault by doing mythic + at lvl 20 or higher key for the week

[junior brook]

Is "Unstable Frostfire Belt" or "Allied Chestplate of Generosity" worth to craft here?

[toxic pewter]

They must upgrade to 15/13 in order to get to ilvl 421 which you can choose from vault for the week

[thin sinew]

Does windfury proc give rage on prot

[toxic pewter]

I personally would go belt because I don’t like taking up tier slots

[foggy moat]

Anyone fan of Burgeoning Seed?

[ember inlet]

Does the lariat count as an embelishment ?

ive had a brain fart

[deep spruce]

yeah i believe so

[tranquil pivot]

Yes it does

[ember inlet]

Ty all

[cinder patrol]

Is the fire ring worth it for prot ? The one that ignites enemies, I know we can only proc it with the frostfire belt but still

[slim dove]

yes

[cinder patrol]

Is the normal version worth using over other rings just because of the proc or is it kinda negligible

[toxic pewter]

That one you can probably sim… I think…

[prisma echo]

What stat you take for crafted sword? haste/ver?

[toxic pewter]

A lot of people including me like haste crit

[prisma echo]

as learned ill try to sim both 🙂

[bold turret]

NO wep worth spending valor?

[peak lily]

Its so expensive for a limited currency, better to use a spark.

[toxic pewter]

Can spend on weapon but it does feel bad if you get a nice weapon drop or from vault ot something later. That’s situation I am in I spent valor on shield

[deft mortar]

yall among other things Into the Fray reduces CD on Shield Block from 14 to 12 seconds for me

Isn't that basically what HR does

2 shield slams

worth of what it does

[wanton night]

is shield of the heart a good thing to spend my spark on?

[deft mortar]

i will this week reet

[keen star]

anyone using a macro for pulling the boss in the raid? it's too many buttons for me so I came up with this
/use Elemental Potion of Power
/cast Avatar
/cast Last Stand
/cast Taunt
/cast Charge
/cast Shield Block

[toxic pewter]

I don’t use ability combination macros but might as well throw shield charge in there

[keen star]

shield charge is after I demo shout manually

[solemn loom]

Guys which Gems to put in my Elemental Lariat? Dont quite understand when/which procc... anybody knows which gems are flat best for elemental lariat for prot warri?

[keen star]

this is just for the first 1 second of pulling the boss

[lyric geode]

As well throw the heroic throw as well.

[sand mason]

Get the Fierce Illiminited Diamond

[ionic roost]

High haste low vers gives a vers proc, high vers low haste gives a haste proc

[toxic pewter]

Shield charge off the gcd if you’re not in melee range that’s why I said it

[keen star]

I'm scared that putting GCD abilites on the macro might break it

[sand mason]

and then the quick Ysemerald when you add the settings to it (I only had to use 1 rank 3, and 1 rank 2 on my 418)

[solemn loom]

So do we want the Versa Procc or the Hase Procc? Currently at 31% Haste with Into the Fray (5 Stacks)

[keen star]

you can sim that

[lyric geode]

Shield charge makes your shield uptime to 100%

[ionic roost]

pretty sure it doesnt matter, i went with the vers proc since i already bought the gems before i found out the procs

[solemn loom]

Aight! Tyvm Guys!

[toxic pewter]

It all works out in the end with the procs imo

I personally get crit procs not sure its optimal but I also don’t really care

[regal vortex]

Ive got 4 set, what do I pick :X

[hidden ether]

402 decoration of flames from my weekly

[regal vortex]

one of the 4 set is 389 so could replace, buts its a hard choice

[toxic pewter]

I prob would grab that ring.. I plan to get frostfire belt anyway.. or even that helmet can turn it into tier later with catalyst if it’s big enough ilvl upgrade perhaps

[oblique wharf]

is frozen devotion worth its price?

[hidden ether]

Tier shoulders or whispering incarnate icon trinket. Both normal level both replacing a 372

Any opinions? I have seen good and bad on that trinket wowhead has it as number one but working towards tier bonus is good as well

[toxic pewter]

That trinket seems good yeah… but I personally would take tier if it gave me two piece. But it’s a tough choice when it comes to trinkets vs tier

I don’t deny that trinket is very rare

[hidden ether]

Would be first piece but gotta get first to ever get second lol

What makes it so rare?

[toxic pewter]

It’s a rare drop

[wanton night]

whispering imo is only really good if you got teammtes with it for the buffs

[toxic pewter]

If you check dungeon journal it drops less than other stuff

If it’s just first piece trinket is good pick up yeah

[cinder patrol]

Remember to do the 4 mythic weekly quest before you claim the vault loot

Don't want to get the same shit you just picked from the cache

[marble cipher]

I've had crap luck on tier so far. How many ilvls can you drop for it, or isn't it worth dropping ilvl for tier? I'm at 397 ilvl atm, but have 0 tier....

[toxic pewter]

I still would personally take tier since you have a few more pieces left to go as it is

[hidden ether]

Yeah I got decoration of flames so if I do trinkets I’m stack on them for a while

[harsh trellis]

What would be the best thing to have crafted for Prot At this time? Bonus if it could also work for Fury.

[hidden ether]

The ammy is BIs for almost everyone but super expensive right?

[cinder patrol]

Fury van use it all, but the helm doesn't do much unless you PvP

[harsh trellis]

What is the ammy

[vital oak]

lariat

[toxic pewter]

It’s gone a lot down in price on my server at least

People crafting it just for tips at this point tbh

[cedar lintel]

after lariat whats next to craft

i can craft all 3 now, 2 with embel and 1 w/o

already have 405 shield

[toxic pewter]

Lot of people like weapon

Ring

Belt

[cinder storm]

Shield, weapon, lariat, in that order

[toxic pewter]

Can even pick up an engi bracers

They’re actually quite useful

[cedar lintel]

which of these 3 is without embelishment

?

[sullen flame]

Thats the order I did, all 3 at 405 and about to 418 the shield.

[toxic pewter]

Prob weapon no embellishment but I plan to put the food buff thing on it if I can

[cinder storm]

Just don't die

[steel mauve]

I couldnt decide if i wanted the food buff or armor spikes

[sullen flame]

Why not both

[toxic pewter]

Apparently the food buff thing isn’t an embellishment

[steel mauve]

Lariat

Its not?

[sullen flame]

Food buff isn't

[steel mauve]

Well ok then, ill need to figure out my third craft

[mellow quartz]

Used one of my sparks on brez bracers

[toxic pewter]

Yah the brez bracers a solid pick tbh

They come in clutch

[mellow quartz]

They seem to backfire a LOT though if you don’t have engineering and points in the thing.

[cinder storm]

I got my second tier bracer on vault

[uneven mason]

Wait so you not need engineering to use them?

[mellow quartz]

No

[sullen flame]

The backfire rate is very high, kinda worthless right now.

[mellow quartz]

You can reuse it though

[uneven mason]

Backfire kills the user?

[mellow quartz]

It can I believe but hasn’t for me so far.

[sullen flame]

It can, theres a few different things it can do.

[hidden ether]

I went shield pants and haven’t done 3rd yet. Pants were probably dumb to make

[hazy sluice]

Went lariat and wrist dunno what to do third spark

[sullen flame]

Shield or weapon. I'd do shield

[plush tendon]

Shield if you dont have a 410+

Then Weapon

[hazy sluice]

K

[plush tendon]

if both are decent, frostfire belt pretty good

if you can get raid rings

[sullen flame]

You can easily spam 16 shadowmoons to take the shield to 418. Not much replaces that.

[hidden ether]

Gotta do 10 16’s right?

[mellow quartz]

Yes

[sullen flame]

Ya, or mythic raid boss kills.

[hidden ether]

So I have noticed there are 2 crafts ones with and without effects. Do the ones with effects count as an embellishment?

[sullen flame]

They say on them at the top Unique-Equipped: Embelished (2)

And the items that add stuff to crafted gear say they add this Unique-Equipped too

[oblique kayak]

SMB Keyes are harder to get invited to then most high end Party locations XD

[cedar lintel]

shield of the hearth is the shield ?

[plush tendon]

yea, if my guild has a SMB, that's a instant "get the bois in there to pump this sucker up" deal

[sick sentinel]

Shield of the Hearth looks real good but I haven't made it yet

[old sinew]

after weapon, shield, and lariat are 418, and fi you already have double embellishment, but what you guys crafting?

[sullen flame]

Primal Molten Defender, Hearth shield is an embelished item.

[old sinew]

chest armor?

[robust pulsar]

Soooo.... I just got lucky for the first time in my life... Which item would you pick? 😐

[plush tendon]

three chesting a 15 SMB was easier then timing a 17 anything to get a 18 last week XD

[ember inlet]

Tier....

[old sinew]

pretty much

[cedar lintel]

so i prefer to embelish lariat and mainhand instead of shield ?

[plush tendon]

lariat is good embellish

[sullen flame]

Lariat for sure. Your 2nd one is going to depend.

[plush tendon]

armor spikes is good

[sullen flame]

Theres a pin

[plush tendon]

frostfire is pretty good

they are balanced well enough; nothing is gonna be the bees knees best on god

[sick sentinel]

Where the pin

[sullen flame]

Frostfire is good if you can also get a raid ring. Wrist is good for flat stats. Weapon and Armor Spikes are just damage.

Just dont do the shield.

[plush tendon]

yea, hearth shield is meh

[sullen flame]

3rd pin down

[sick sentinel]

So Shield not worth

[plush tendon]

which, for a system that most things are realistically already meh, you dont want to be double meh

[sick sentinel]

What's armor spikes

[plush tendon]

a straight up 418 shield good; a shield of the hearth no

[sick sentinel]

Oh ok

[uneven mason]

It occasionally slaps for little damage when blocking

[sick sentinel]

Feostfire is a belt?

[plush tendon]

yea

its stats are predetermined, the proc is a great way to do fire damage if you can get your hands on the raid rings

[tired forge]

soooo how are ppl finding someone to craft their shield lol

[plush tendon]

guild/trade chat

[sullen flame]

I made my own, trade chat

[tired forge]

no1 seems to spec into sheilds

[plush tendon]

also, some servers may even have discords set up for crafting

[sullen flame]

Theres some zug zug who went all in on shields like I did.

[tired forge]

its the primal shield ppl are crafting right?

[old sinew]

I got lucky some andy could only do tier 3 and I said F it anything is better than what I've got and it proc'd at 418 you love to it

[sick sentinel]

Does anyone know why dragon games equipment doesnt seem to consistently work on some bosses? Or is it just in general inconsistent? I never seem to have issue on dummmies

[old sinew]

but ya not a lot of shield smiths

[uneven mason]

I made the shield because week 1

[old sinew]

you have to be "close" to the target to kick the balls into them

[uneven mason]

Capped in shield and chest

[old sinew]

this tbh. I was stuck with a 322 shield doing 14s and 15s

[sick sentinel]

I see. Kinda makese sense why terros and sennarth were being lame

[plush tendon]

[old sinew]

literally haven't seen a single shield until a heroic box dropped one but that was far too late

[plush tendon]

shouldve used a titan matrix

from M0s

[old sinew]

🤷‍♂️

[plush tendon]

at least no one died

[old sinew]

me zug zug tbh

[tired forge]

i have a 385 shield, should i craft a 395 or just make bracers/something else

[old sinew]

clear 16s and make a 418 🤷‍♂️

[tired forge]

hmm i guess, im up to 15s now

14s/15s

[plush tendon]

Shield is the most important piece on a Prot Warrior

so if your shield is sus, I would recommend getting that up

Primal Molten Defender is a great option; which can be brought all the way to 418

and is hard to replace

[loud patrol]

im still tryna find a BS with shield spec

[tired forge]

ya

[old sinew]

yo random question. how do the halls of valor bears work? I did an 18 and I did the bears and one of them just smacked me for 270k and I pulled six of them. Ended up stabilizing cuz we had that 150% run speed but what exactly does warrior do on those mobs, or am I missing something

[tired forge]

bears or wolves?

[old sinew]

bears

[tired forge]

what bears lol

[ember inlet]

They put a dirty bleed on you

[tired forge]

dont go left?

[ember inlet]

watch your stacks

Theyre easy...?

[sullen flame]

Don't pull the bears. Problem solved.

[crystal steeple]

who is pulling bears O_o

[plush tendon]

bears put a damage taken debuff on you

[loud patrol]

i never pull the bears

[tired forge]

ya ive never gone that way, no idea

[old sinew]

nah I'm not going to not pull the bears. ended pu making time and it was a big time save cuz you can pull like a billion forces at once. I just wanted ot know like, what the trick was. I guess the trick is you just max range them and stun-rotate?

[plush tendon]

the shit in the forest is kind of scary compared to the rest of the dungeon

[old sinew]

each bear is 4 forces and you can pull 7

you can skip like 3 pulls or somethign as a reuslt

[ember inlet]

exactly

[loud patrol]

pull the oxes

[crystal steeple]

if you skip dragon, go left, cut right, hold right, wolf boss 1, straight thru clear all right wolves and left of the boss wolves, wolf boss 2, done

[plush tendon]

^

thats what we do

timer is like the least of our concern in these dungeons right now

[old sinew]

I mean

uhh

[plush tendon]

we have the damage.... can we live though

thats the real question

[uneven mason]

All the trash in this area is toxic

[old sinew]

On fortified the timer exists

Tyrannical is +2 or disband but Fort the timer seems to exist

[tired forge]

Ya timer in HoV seems annoying at least for me

[loud patrol]

i mean pull em with the 150% speed

just roll around

[plush tendon]

thats seems like a good play

[uneven mason]

Oh yeah haha

[loud patrol]

dont go to far so they dont charge

spam revenge tc

[tulip harness]

Should I be able to just eat serpent kick on liu flameheart? would make it alot easier to not have to dodge the waves

[uneven mason]

No

[loud patrol]

stairs

[plush tendon]

stair strat

[tired forge]

whats stair strat?!

[tulip harness]

Whats that?

[old sinew]

ah. yeah I figured there was some sort of secret tech here. sometimes they charged me and snared the crap out of me, other times they just let themselves get beat up. That makes sense. Thanks

[uneven mason]

Abuse z axis limit of charges?

[old sinew]

I don't know why the Z-axis even exists. stuff like gnomes getting stuck in puddles or being able to sit underneath laser beams...

🤷‍♂️

[plush tendon]

I beleive I remember watching Dr. J stream and they used the stairs in that room to dodge the aoe

[uneven mason]

Because wow plays in 3 dimensions

[crystal steeple]

dont give blizz the idea of making duck mechanics

[plush tendon]

that or it was the water boss

Cause I know if you stand by the back door on water boss in ToJS you can dodge the hydro blast

gotta review the tech to confirm though

[tulip harness]

What do you mean by stairs?

[uneven mason]

Oh come on Hatchet was one of my favorite bosses if all time in everquest

[old sinew]

there's a ramp in the room of 3rd boss to last boss

[uneven mason]

There are stairs in the room

[old sinew]

presumably there's Z-axis nonsense going on

[plush tendon]

yea, its Z axis abuse

[tulip harness]

Ah its that simple

if Im above the wave I dont get hit?

[loud patrol]

[blazing condor]

the fact that you can't aggro the dragon on last boss RLP before p2 is really stupid

[old sinew]

this tbh

[loud patrol]

get a full ranged team

[plush tendon]

dont do RLP

[tired forge]

you need to recraft to remove an embellishment right?

[plush tendon]

and reroll keys into SBG

[old sinew]

rollsafe.gif

[uneven mason]

Nothing like having a DPS get eaten because they stood under the 747 as it came in for landing

[cerulean urchin]

i finally had some luck with my keys and as a reward for +17 SBG i got 19 RLP kek

[open gazelle]

Thank god I’m a tank, healers have it rough man

[loud patrol]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFv1nX7m/

i found this yesterday

and it actually paid out

[tired forge]

should i put armor spikes on shield or just put the food buff on it?

[ember inlet]

Do you guys know whats the best use of spending Valor ? Like is there a particular item slot to prio first ?

[cerulean urchin]

I always have to yell at my DH and fury warrior to back off when the dragon is landing, one of them always dies

[somber shell]

best weapon embellishment? this will be my first embellishment... fangs?

[loud patrol]

fangs yeah

i think fangs are better than spikes

[cerulean urchin]

u cant put spikes on weapon anyways so yeah

[somber shell]

yeah

[plush tendon]

not with that attitude

[tired forge]

i have lariat and strike twice weapon

[somber shell]

lol

[blazing condor]

do you know what a mace is

[plush tendon]

^

[tired forge]

whats the next embellishment most get?

[cerulean urchin]

also fangs are really low dps , its like barely 1-1.5%

[plush tendon]

they all are around that

[brisk gust]

https://gyazo.com/123c45736496550c8730f1c868df4de3 Diffrence between 120k enchant and 30k enchant lmao

[blazing condor]

[cerulean urchin]

if i knew that i wouldnt have been griefed by my guild crafter, he recrafted it with emblishment and it went from r5 to r3

[blazing condor]

i wont spend that money

[somber shell]

yeehs

@brisk gust which enchants?

[brisk gust]

Sophic 2 and Sophic 3

[plush tendon]

honestly, the play for me was lariat and frostfire as my embellishments

now im done, dont need to think about it and feel great

[cerulean urchin]

i crafted lariat today, first try r5

[plush tendon]

I only get rank 5s

[cerulean urchin]

had to recraft my weapon 4 times to get it back to r5

[plush tendon]

ooof

that aint terrible though

[tired forge]

can i put armor spikes on shield?

im not sure what to do with shield lol

[cerulean urchin]

worst was we were in two separare m+ groups, and he crafted the embelishment and it turned out to be r3, then he just went into a key

[plush tendon]

you dont have to do anything if you dont want

[tired forge]

im about to craft it but no idea if i embellish it

[cerulean urchin]

if youre crafting both for the first time id do it

if youre trying to recraft maybe not even worth

cause it can lower the quality, and you'll ahve to spend gold on materials again recrafting

[tired forge]

but if i want to remove it i have to attempt to 5 star again right?

[plush tendon]

correct

you buy the powder from Obsidian Sanctum troll, and recraft

gotta remember its easier to craft something to a higher level without a embellishment

[tired forge]

so i am able to create 2 things right now, thats y i am asknig if i use the embellishment on the shield or something else

[cerulean urchin]

i have lariat and fangs atm

i have a ring in my bank that i can recraft with food as well

[plush tendon]

If you have access to raid rings, Lariat and Frostfire. If not, Lariat and whatever makes you feel good.

[cerulean urchin]

but i dont wanna replace my Cos and cobalt rings

you ccan have two combat + food embelishment

[plush tendon]

I have the Shield Ring from raid and some rando ring; hopfully I get the fire ring from mythic first boss

if not, ill get the AA ring

[tired forge]

i decided to not get a 395 raid ring in my vault and went with a weapon

[shy python]

Hi 🙂

Can I sim my best defensiv stat?

[plush tendon]

haste

to 40%

[cerulean urchin]

god damn cobalt ring is so good, too bad u cant upgrade it

[shy python]

And second?

[cerulean urchin]

vers

[plush tendon]

depends; technically vers, but no amount of vers will save you

unless you stacking it to crazy amounts to survive a single hit

better to just get I level first and then as much haste as you can get

[tired forge]

i thought lots of ppl get the bracer embellishment?

is that not the case anymore?

[shy python]

Okay but there is no way to sim this like I can sim best dps stats?

[plush tendon]

not really; but its also not really necessary to sim for tankiness

you're better off simming for offense

[cerulean urchin]

best defensive is to get healed more 4head

[plush tendon]

naw, best defense is more damage

[cerulean urchin]

i wish they put in the catalyst sooner

[plush tendon]

so yea, Haste>Crit/Vers>Mastery

[cerulean urchin]

im just stuck with gear, since i dont raid

[shy python]

Alright thanks!

[plush tendon]

it needed to be sooner

end of Jan is way too long

alts be struggling out here

[cerulean urchin]

they say its for alts to catch up ,meanwhile my main barely has 2 set and thats cause of lfr

lol

[thin cedar]

On average what kinda dps are you guys doing in keys? I know it just depends on a lot of stuff.. but just an average number😅 I wanna ballpark myself in the 15s area

[plush tendon]

well.... 2 set is really all we need

[cerulean urchin]

just to have 2 set

like im "forced" to wear lfr

[plush tendon]

the 4 set is like double meh

[cerulean urchin]

i had to replace my 411 gloves wi this

[plush tendon]

40K ish?

give or take 5

[slim dove]

40-50 depending on dungeon

[plush tendon]

yea, that sounds bout right

[cerulean urchin]

i like to pad sometimes just for fun, but my core group consists of DH and Fury warrior

those apes cant even wait for me to aggro

[plush tendon]

replace the fury with a WW

[ocean bloom]

is bv still bugged?

[plush tendon]

you need that 5% phys

for the dam

[ember inlet]

What is BV?

[cerulean urchin]

i mean no one in the guild plays WW

for now

[plush tendon]

sadge

[ocean bloom]

Brutal Vitality

[cerulean urchin]

i used to play it but i quit after 9.2

[thin cedar]

Thanks for the guesstimate! Yeah I suck.. 😂

[cerulean urchin]

so now im just tanking for s1 as usual

[hybrid fossil]

which emballishment should i use for protection on the weapon?

[cerulean urchin]

fangs

[slim dove]

fang does decent.

[plush tendon]

next time you do a key, log it and then you can share the log here or in the log review channel

[slim dove]

1-2% for me.

[ember inlet]

In what way was it bugged 😦 ive got it talented !

[hybrid fossil]

ty

[cerulean urchin]

i still have dogshit trinkets, there's like barely any decent in m+

[plush tendon]

'looks at windscar trinket'

why you disrespect the windscar

[cerulean urchin]

i keep getting the football one from AA

2 weeks in a row in my vault

[plush tendon]

oh yea, thats trash

no one wants a soccer trinket

[cerulean urchin]

• the whlep one

whelp one

that one is ass too

[plush tendon]

I think whelp is aight?

[cerulean urchin]

nah

[plush tendon]

its passive at least

[cerulean urchin]

im using primal shell atm + Enduring scale

[ember inlet]

I got the blazebinder in the vault today then i got Spiteful Storm from the heroic cache

[cerulean urchin]

cause i have nothing better

[plush tendon]

enduring scale big sus

[cerulean urchin]

i have nothing better

[plush tendon]

just gotta slam those CoS keys

[cerulean urchin]

even the primal shell is from wq's

[plush tendon]

for AA ring and Windscar

[cerulean urchin]

my dps yoinked all the winscar

even when i said i need it

both of my melees have it

[digital frigate]

Such is life

[plush tendon]

I remember the good ol days when tanks got first pick of loot

[cerulean urchin]

but neither of them have the ring

[ember inlet]

Do you guys know whats the best use of spending Valor ? Like is there a particular item slot to prio first ?

[plush tendon]

now look at us 😦

[cerulean urchin]

just spend it on your bis stuff

i upgraded my ring a bit but thats bout it

[plush tendon]

trinkets

rings are good budget

[ember inlet]

So upgrading Blazebinder is the play

[plush tendon]

otherwise save till forge so you can make tier if you struggling on that front

[cerulean urchin]

u mean catalyst?

[plush tendon]

forge, catalyst, vending machine

call it what you want

[sick sentinel]

oohhhhh that must be nice

[cerulean urchin]

yeah but valor isnt gonna be for that

its gonna be some new currency

[plush tendon]

valor pump a item to 415 and then turn to tier?

[cerulean urchin]

ah you meant that, yeah

probably the play

[plush tendon]

granted you wont need ALL the valor you get from the start of the season to then

[ember inlet]

Noiiiice , Thank you for being so helpful today 😄 haha

[sick sentinel]

all i know is i would have killed somebody for that ring on my rogue

[cerulean urchin]

i got this in the vault for change

[sick sentinel]

that ring is crazy

[plush tendon]

I would just keep some on hand in a 'break class in case of emergency' situation

[ember inlet]

Its so beautiful...

[cerulean urchin]

also the heroic chest gave me the only thing i didnt need

a 402 weapon ...

[sick sentinel]

wait, does that ring stack with hguntard bow

[jolly wasp]

blessed by vault today ❤️

[sick sentinel]

could really break hunter with that and cobalt ring budget, raid fire ring, and the bow

[ripe wyvern]

wowhead guide says the fire damage ring is bis but i cant figure out what fire damage we do

[mellow quartz]

Crafted belt

[cerulean urchin]

the belt

[sick sentinel]

we don't we rely on external factors for fire damage

[cerulean urchin]

this thing

[ripe wyvern]

ohh okay

[edgy grail]

belt and decoration of fire trinket

[sick sentinel]

boss 1 raid trinket, bunch of others, weapon enchants crafted embellishments etc

[ripe wyvern]

lost the roll anyway so its whatever

[cerulean urchin]

thats the spirit

[sick sentinel]

Do we have a BiS trinket list?

[plush tendon]

Grimtorch

Incarnate Trinket

Windscar

[cerulean urchin]

is this expensive to craft on your guys's servers?

the diamond alone is 50k on my server kek

[sick sentinel]

alltotem + ??? probably rbuy or grim for keys

[plush tendon]

I make my own

but I also have a pretty profession happy guild that pretty much cover everything for me

[cerulean urchin]

thing was i was gonna craft my lariat today, so i bought rank3 illimited diamon for 30k

guy told me later rank 2 is fine

[plush tendon]

ooof

[cerulean urchin]

i went back to sell rank 3

and it was 50k

lol

[plush tendon]

profit

[cerulean urchin]

so i actually made gold

[plush tendon]

I only use gold on gear/consumables

and gambling in raid

gambling tends to be the biggest expense

[cerulean urchin]

i ahve gold thats not a problem, but still like paying 50k for r3 main stat gem

is kinda sus

[plush tendon]

i dont think you need a r3 diamond

thatll help with the craft

but you can get inspire to rank 3 without a rank 3 diamond

[cerulean urchin]

i guess time to hit /2 and see if any JC's can do it

[mighty delta]

hello friends

what embelishments should i aim for outside of lariat

[cerulean urchin]

fangs or spikes

[lost canyon]

is All-Totem of the master good?

[mighty delta]

what item is spikes

[astral lichen]

do folks have any tips for the last pack of TJS, tend to get globaled at some point once i run out of wall/demo and if i go pure kite dps get eaten by mini adds

[jolly wasp]

it's an embellishment @mighty delta

[mighty delta]

just decided to reroll from my garbogo vdh :^)

[cerulean urchin]

spikes for armor , fangs for weapon

[mighty delta]

ah

[mighty delta]

so spikes goes on everything

see, thanks mates

[cerulean urchin]

goes on armor crafted stuff

fangs goes on weapon

[mighty delta]

yea, was thinking it was something like that helmet with a fixed embelishment

gotcha now

[cerulean urchin]

nah you can buy the embelishment yourself

and recraft stuff with the embelishment included

[urban bane]

are you spell reflecting dark claw?

that's the main tank buster

[astral lichen]

nope thats a good tip

[plush tendon]

also cant recommend the spell block talent enough for ToJS

20seconds of that pack not being a problem

[urban bane]

can stun and CC them to sync dark claw casts, as well, to make for more effective spell reflects and better use

[cerulean urchin]

and if that fails KITE

[urban bane]

Just do mini kites if you have no CC to stagger the dark claw casts as they only cast it when in melee

ya

[edgy grail]

should also likely be running defenders aegies in TOJS as well

[fiery kiln]

is there any other sources of fire dmg apart from the belt?

[edgy grail]

so you should have 2 walls

[edgy grail]

trinkets

[fiery kiln]

unlcuky then

my ring sucks

atleast doesn't do the dmg it sims for

[tawdry lynx]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/RnVdvgXP3LY9MTfq/YK31kXfgbaAtDH6z#fight=3,5&source=8,Giesi&type=damage-done&start=1068839,11011069&end=1363767,11305997

97% parse but looking to improve. I'm Unit, just a random I'm comparing against. Clean up tips?

What stands out to me is it like a lot of potentially wasted execute procs, too many revenge's over thunderclaps, rage overcapping and stunting myself out of a 5th avatar.

[astral lichen]

cool those tips help me many i think (can hopefully stop being a pancake)

[urban bane]

[split stratus]

Hi! Is there a goto profession for warriors ?

[plush tendon]

Whatever you want

also, depends on what time investment you want to put in

gathering is super chill and easy, whereas crafting does require access to gold and a lot more time investment to get to a serviceable level

[harsh mason]

^^ true, some crafting professions take some time, but it’s all what you want. I’m personally just an herb/miner and I seek everything

[edgy grail]

Rage overcapping is big you wasted a good amount https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/RnVdvgXP3LY9MTfq/YK31kXfgbaAtDH6z#fight=3,5&source=8,Giesi&type=resources&start=1068839,11011069&end=1363767,11305997&spell=101

[tawdry lynx]

Ya I saw that

[harsh mason]

Sell*

[tawdry lynx]

I am having trouble dumping it all though with GCDs and all

and APM

[edgy grail]

you dumb with IP

[tawdry lynx]

smashing ignore pain and doing everything else is hurting my fingers lol

[edgy grail]

its off the gcd

hmm have you tried different binds maybe

i had to change mine in s4

it was too much lol

[tawdry lynx]

literally the same key im on lol

[somber sky]

how is All-Totem of the Master? Sounds like a good trinket but it has no numbers on it. Any input?

[harsh mason]

IP also stacks, which is really nice when needing to rage dump

[tawdry lynx]

maybe m4 is the ticket

[plush tendon]

its aight; better in M+ where you have high tank uptime

[blazing condor]

got it today and it did ~2k dps for my one dung

[somber sky]

was wondering if I go it for keys yeah

[plush tendon]

yea, better in keys

would not recommend in raid

[somber sky]

but is it better than whetstone and horn of valor combo?

[plush tendon]

I dont like double on use