You also gain feeling of inferiority when you drop superiority, superiority at 35+ stacks hurts 
#protection
cinder storm
edgy grail
Yes
ashen harness
ye that ones sick
must be super satisfying to heal tho
to see those wild numbers
edgy grail
Yep its a fun one
warm plinth
Yes it's good. You can use it shortly before CDs to maximize use of the str buff
edgy grail
Reminds of temple of seth
idle aurora
yeah this is not even remotely close to numbers healer should be doing
edgy grail
The 3rd boss
idle aurora
Yes it's good. You can use it shortly before CDs to maximize use of the str buf...
aight ty
edgy grail
They should be doing more? 🤔
idle aurora
nono
i meant that no fight should force healer to do 90k hps at this point of expansion
edgy grail
Ohhh less if we play it right you mean?
lyric elm
You also gain feeling of inferiority when you drop superiority, superiority at 3...
is this a dps mechanic? for them to position on you. because we have to tank the boss etc
edgy grail
It was a lot less group healing when we sent it into immune
ashen harness
how u guys deal with the 3rd boss kick tho, my heart sinks every time, i never survive with enough to fuck up the following aoe mechanic, in jade temple
edgy grail
But it gets spicy asf for me
lyric elm
how u guys deal with the 3rd boss kick tho, my heart sinks every time, i never s...
i have my pet evoker do time dilation then pray to the heavens
edgy grail
Rotate CDs, wall, LS SR, Wall
cinder storm
Healers power is usually at its lowest at the start of every expansion, blizz didn't want regular people to farm 15s straight out of the expa and gave us the worst healing affixes on top of it
edgy grail
Using impending victory for every 2nd one
ashen harness
that kick is absolute monkaS, tanks have 0 room to fuck that up, and its tight
limpid anchor
that kick is absolute monkaS, tanks have 0 room to fuck that up, and its tight
Well it’s not a tank only mechanic
edgy grail
Your healer needs to remove the abosrb from you
cinder storm
is this a dps mechanic? for them to position on you. because we have to tank the...
They should stack on you, and you should tank every boss on a way that you don't cleave, normally I'll drop superiority, and some dps will get it, other times I end up the fight with all the stacks
limpid anchor
It’s a group dungeon
idle aurora
I will not upset y'all with saying how I deal with that kick 😐
edgy grail
As a warrior you cant do much
sand mason
any consensus on BiS M+ Profs?
limpid anchor
I will not upset y'all with saying how I deal with that kick 😐
Getting a better heal? That’s valid
ashen harness
do profession matter? i mean get engineering for rocket boots
beside that i dont think it matters
cinder storm
Whatever gives you more gold
lyric elm
I will not upset y'all with saying how I deal with that kick 😐
the good ol soulstone and die? 
idle aurora
Getting a better heal? That’s valid
... I'm a DK main XD
limpid anchor
Disgusting
sand mason
do profession matter? i mean get engineering for rocket boots
Im thinking about going engineering for the brez and rocket boots
idle aurora
any consensus on BiS M+ Profs?
If you play in organised group it's probably whatever you need for Court of Stars
cinder storm
Third boss fight only lasts til boss hits 30% tanking wise
ashen harness
Im thinking about going engineering for the brez and rocket boots
ye i dont think anything else matter
sand mason
I dont know if Alch has 2x lasting phials anymore? I guess thats the only other benefit lol
ashen harness
@sand mason man go fishing, bis profession. Flex a fishing hat in +20 keys
sand mason
damn you right
idle aurora
Yeah but that's not a direct combat benefit, you can have same effect without alchemy
What you can get tho is toxic pots/phials with less negative effects
ashen harness
nothing like taking a 2 minute fishing break mid dungeon, cook the fish, and eat it for the food buff
livid osprey
How do you deal with the damage taken on tree boss in Academy when adds burst forth? Dot fucked me up through cd and rest of the damage just finished the job. (Was a 2nd/3rd set of adds)
slim dove
How do you deal with the damage taken on tree boss in Academy when adds burst fo...
rotate aoe stops with team, big dam, kite as last resort
also dwarf/bitter to reset stacks
cinder storm
Treat it as necrotic pre nerf, after 40 stacks you are unhealable and 55+ stacks will kill you. I use ravager/challenging to snap aggro, rotate stuns and leap out regardless
cinder storm
https://i.imgur.com/gbhUD91.png
Oh yeah, that's bis
lyric elm
2 people pop that each poison round and they go down in no time
youll do millions of *damage
brisk gust
what do you use against serpent strike
lyric elm
reroll vdh 
mellow harbor
When fighting second boss in jade temple, do I need grab aggro on both or just one we're focusing?
mellow quartz
what do you use against serpent strike
defensive cd's
lyric elm
When fighting second boss in jade temple, do I need grab aggro on both or just o...
just one
mellow harbor
Ty
cinder storm
Thanks for the help guys
If you are seeing a third set of adds on anything under 16, your dps are lacking
mellow quartz
doesn't really help him kill the boss lol
weary python
how u guys deal with the 3rd boss kick tho, my heart sinks every time, i never s...
Is it not magic damage or the follow up is? When both SW on CD wouldn't a reflect or spell block help at least mitigating some from the follow up?
lyric elm
If you are seeing a third set of adds on anything under 16, your dps are lacking
what? how overleveled are you lol
fading tide
When fighting second boss in jade temple, do I need grab aggro on both or just o...
I found out when that boss gets to 10 stacks and goes immune he does no damage. So it could help as a tank if the dmg gets crazy
cinder storm
I don't mean your dps as a tank, I meant the three dps
sweet summit
🤤
ashen harness
Is it not magic damage or the follow up is? When both SW on CD wouldn't a refle...
it is magic dagic damage so you can SR it
cinder storm
I found out when that boss gets to 10 stacks and goes immune he does no damage. ...
You swap at 6 stacks
edgy grail
You swap whenever your team needs you too
It depends on the strat
6 is fine for normal keys
You dont always have to do one or the other the whole FIGHT
livid osprey
If you are seeing a third set of adds on anything under 16, your dps are lacking
Very embarrassing, but this happened on a 13, didnt expect the damage and just stood there with Last Stand, cause Shield Wall on cd
cinder storm
Very embarrassing, but this happened on a 13, didnt expect the damage and just s...
Only way to get better as a tank is by failing
mellow quartz
saying 'x' should never happen at 'y' key level is also extremely missleading as you can be in a group of 400+ ilvl players or 385
most things come down to 'it depends'
fading tide
Am I the only one that doesn’t go towards the harbor b4 the first boss in CoS?
warm plinth
No, but it's easy count if you do
mellow quartz
it's just a nice and easy double pull 🤷♂️
wary ibex
whats the best available spell reflect weak aura?
mellow quartz
pins
warm plinth
Probably the one in pins
cinder storm
mellow harbor
Harbour is very easy trash all you need is 1 aoe stun
lyric elm
harbor is easy, you can pull all of that crap
wary ibex
aye thx
cinder storm
CoS difficulty is the same as dark souls, the enemies are easy, the camera is not
mellow quartz
best thing for COS is getting bigwigs spell announce or similar to announce every time an enemy does a frontal
dont have to watch your feel just have to listen and move
lyric elm
so all the time kek
cinder storm
I personally find it annoying, that voice that some people use that says everything, is it dbm?
lyric elm
probably bigwigs
mellow quartz
it's what I just linked
but you can adjust it as you like
iirc
it's super helpful when you get used to it
mellow harbor
Spent 2 hour in completion 20 halls of Valor yesterday for vault. We one shot hyrja but wipe a million times to dog doing back to back claw frenzy
cinder storm
Oof
KUJO is a Fenrir reskin and the leap works similarly, other than that, poor healer
mellow harbor
It was 4/5 guild run, our dh got the hang of melding the leaps
rocky dock
There's also a weakaura pack that has sound queues
mellow quartz
KUJO is a Fenrir reskin and the leap works similarly, other than that, poor heal...
Well no stacking bleed on kujo
cinder storm
Weekly no leaveerz
mellow quartz
Or aoe nuke
cinder storm
mellow harbor
Hyrja sheild light was leaving me at like 5% hp at 396 ilvl with demo, spell reflect d-stance, I think I got one shot through wall, reflect d-stance
warm plinth
On what key level 🤔
mellow harbor
20 completion
warm plinth
Idk check logs but it does hit like a truck
So I wouldn't be surprised
That and the third boss jade ability are fuckin stupid
lyric elm
yes its massive
cinder storm
Yeah that's about the right damage it chunks your hp
ionic roost
Hyrja sheild light was leaving me at like 5% hp at 396 ilvl with demo, spell ref...
Spell block is good for that dungeons on Tyrannical
cinder storm
Like your healer should be waiting for you on the other side to top you
I got thrown to a sanctify once, yeeted and deleted
mellow harbor
Yeah spell blocks really good
mellow harbor
So far I haven't gotten yeeted into the Golden maconronis, but it's gonna happen when I need to time a key
chilly brook
What happened to griff mah p warrior boi
Well I decided I wanted to try a different class after 3 xpacs, and monk seemed fun again. Hated it after they changed monk in Legion
jagged pier
jagged pier
cinder storm
Shouldn't happen as long as you wait and don't move the boss right away, which is what I did
chilly brook
You can never escape being a warrior main for long
cinder storm
Something needs doing?
lilac jay
Would you guys say that blood elf racial is useful this tier? In mythic plus. Or should I use cheap race change.
cobalt prawn
Does someone have a good Auto gossip wa or addon for m+?
chilly brook
Would you guys say that blood elf racial is useful this tier? In mythic plus. Or...
About as useful as any other racial
cinder storm
Does someone have a good Auto gossip wa or addon for m+?
Littlebigwigs
chilly brook
Aoe dispel is always nice
But just gotta ask yourself if you’d rather have that or something else
/shrug
Tldr on racials is none of them are going to hold you back
jagged pier
Belf animations are bad
cobalt prawn
Littlebigwigs
Can I use it only for that? I’m so used to dbm for everything else 😅
cinder storm
Bigwigs is better for m+ than dbm
cinder storm
Vulperas are Sugoi 
summer hamlet
How do you guys take AOE aggro ? thunderclap have a 5 sec cd, if I miss some add, it just run around.
stiff gate
Blood elf is fine I guess but it still feels like dwarf/dark iron is too valuable not to have
edgy grail
Shout
chilly brook
If you’re only revenging when you have the proc you’re doing it wrong
stiff gate
How do you guys take AOE aggro ? thunderclap have a 5 sec cd, if I miss some add...
You have an AoE taunt if you need it, plus you should have avatar up at the start of basically any pull so thunderclap is only 2 gcds cooldown.
summer hamlet
Ok thanks, I started as a guardian, so AOE was just easy spam
need to train on that
summer hamlet
less spammy
chilly brook
Outside of like blood I think most tanks have an easy time on aoe
jagged pier
weary python
Best trinkets to use for m+? I’m currently running the grimtotem trinket and scale until I can get the blazehoof to drop.
warm plinth
@chilly brook ❤️
chilly brook
<@133532617940140032> ❤️
warm plinth
Best trinkets to use for m+? I’m currently running the grimtotem trinket and sca...
All-totem is great. I forget which one scale is
warm plinth
You bastard
sacred flare
I am trying to do some 14s 15 and feeling rage starved on bosses and they are hitting like trucks enough that i cant keep up ip, also in def stance
blazing condor
horn of valor good or bad
paper dagger
Does spell reflect scale with damage buffs? I'm wondering if I should save spell reflect until I get orbs for lightning boy in Nokhud or not
cinder storm
You can reflect windsurge, the orbs damage when you soak is pretty low, best to use SW there
fickle bear
Hey Team, i made a mistake week 1 and build Shield of the Hearth, i could upgrade it to 405 but i already have 2 embellishments (weapon + shield) so i can not get a 3rd one next week. I can also not remove the embellishment, should i just jolo upgrade it and dont take Lariat or helmet, or hope for an m+ shield and waste a spark
inner tartan
Is there a BiS talent choice for m+?
cinder storm
weary python
All-totem is great. I forget which one scale is
It’s the trinket out of offensive
glass spear
what dungeons would you guys recommend speccing into spell block?
cinder storm
RLP, Temple
wraith hemlock
I went lazy mode and equipped the shield ring from assembly. Shit did 17% of my healing 😂
oblique kayak
I went lazy mode and equipped the shield ring from assembly. Shit did 17% of my ...
yeah some people swear on the dmg ring- i think the heal is insane
wraith hemlock
My healer was bored out of his mind
severe steeple
its 2k hps
onyx matrix
ahh just won terros necklace on heroic. feelsgoodman
oblique kayak
ahh just won terros necklace on heroic. feelsgoodman
go get that mount 😛
oblique kayak
4% dmg vs 17% healing is nothing? really not trying to fight just hard time understanding it
slim dove
why do i need 17% more healing when i already dont have my health bar moved outside of very specific bosses?
obsidian rampart
First +20 in my realm let's go !
sweet summit
short vale
what dungeons would you guys recommend speccing into spell block?
Once keys go high enough almost every key has its uses (maybe skip only at algethar)
2-3% dps loss won’t make or break the key - spellblock for 20sec might
cinder storm
First +20 in my realm let's go !
sweet summit
the cobalt rings have a significantly reduced stat budget
eventually higher ilvl (more stats) is just better
next jay
can someone explain a few numbers on ignore pain scaling for me?
"Fight through the pain, ignoring 50% of damage taken, up to [(0 + Attack power * 3.5) * (1 + Versatility)] total damage prevented."
what are the zero and the 1 in the ap and vers sections referring to? and is the vers referencing percentage?
cinder storm
why do i need 17% more healing when i already dont have my health bar moved outs...
This pretty much
sweet summit
can someone explain a few numbers on ignore pain scaling for me?
"Fight throug...
probably some old shit they haven't fully removed 
and the +1 in vers is preventing it from being 0 if you have literally no vers
cinder storm
Don't overthink IP too much
sweet summit
oh no
cinder storm
Oh yes
waxen orbit
Erga please I love you
sweet summit
he's back
next jay
annoying, i know there are weak auras already but i just work on my own to help me continue coding
sweet summit
🏃
waxen orbit
Erga my beloved
cinder storm
👑 here you go, you dropped this when you left
next jay
trying to get what each ignore pain cast would be shield wise, but the formula listed is just....eh?
waxen orbit
👑 here you go, you dropped this when you left
Thank you, I’ve prepared my throne for my return
sweet summit
can you not fetch the number from the ability tooltip?
waxen orbit
sweet summit
triangulating
oblique kayak
why do i need 17% more healing when i already dont have my health bar moved outs...
thx it’s a skill problem then i guess as i tend to drop lower sometimes outside of the well known bosses. Thx
jagged pier
Thats merica can tell by the house out the window
sweet summit
final radish
hi, any one have all spell list for spell refletion in DF S1 dungeons ?
jagged pier
fickle bear
Hey Team, i made a mistake week 1 and build Shield of the Hearth, i could upgrad...
Push :( need help to decide
glass spear
hey, is BV fixed or is it still bugged to not add more shield once you hit IP cap?
jagged pier
We dont know tbh
@strong forum believes it is, but we thought that before and it wasnt
sweet summit
one day it will be fixed for sure 
glass spear
that explains a lot, it was not adding shield to my IP yesterday
but sometimes it does
super weird
cinder storm
Push :( need help to decide
Honestly, sim yourself, wait for vault to make a decision based on new gear, nothing you've done so far can't be fixed eventually.
fickle bear
It just sucks i made the wrong shild, im bummed.
cinder storm
Lariat is not going to make or break your keys
solemn current
thx it’s a skill problem then i guess as i tend to drop lower sometimes outside ...
Also worth mentioning you can’t predict when it procs and honestly when it does it’s probably just preventing leech, pain and gain, Indom, or even IP from doing it’s work. So you see the healing at 17% but it’ll reduce the others effectiveness.
strong forum
BrV is fixed
warm plinth
A shield is a shield. It's not a huge deal.
cinder storm
It happens, imagine being locked into the wrong covenant for a whole season
strong forum
Atleast on my machine when I did keys
fickle bear
Honestly i feel like lariat getting a nerf soon again.
next jay
can you not fetch the number from the ability tooltip?
was able to get it from tooltip, thank you. i still wish the formulas were clear, would have been so much easier
fickle bear
It happens, imagine being locked into the wrong covenant for a whole season <:ke...
ouch.
cinder storm
Doubt it, lariat is a huge gold sink and Blizz likes that
sweet summit
was able to get it from tooltip, thank you. i still wish the formulas were clea...
unfortunately not something blizzard is very good at 
next jay
sadge
fickle bear
Doubt it, lariat is a huge gold sink and Blizz likes that
i mean at the end i get enough 405 infusions from m+ i think i just make the shield and then see will get another one till wednesday anways and if i change the shield i change it i guess
oblique kayak
Also worth mentioning you can’t predict when it procs and honestly when it does ...
thx that makes a lot of sense to me 🙂
cinder storm
I'd worry more on a higher ilvl recraft than swapping same ilvl shields
fickle bear
I'd worry more on a higher ilvl recraft than swapping same ilvl shields
thanks <3
turbid shuttle
Doubt it, lariat is a huge gold sink and Blizz likes that
transferring gold from 1 char to another is not a gold sink
cinder storm
transferring gold from 1 char to another is not a gold sink
It is when people are buying tokens, for blizz at least
dim venture
Looking for a prot talent tree, just for clearing out world content, world quest etc
paper dagger
You can reflect windsurge, the orbs damage when you soak is pretty low, best to ...
I know, I'm asking if the damage buff you get from soaking the orbs effects the damage output of reflecting Wind Burst
slim dove
I know, I'm asking if the damage buff you get from soaking the orbs effects the ...
it should.
cinder storm
Let the boss eat orbs then
final radish
any one can help for spell reflection ? 🙂 what is biggest spell refletion in season ? 🙂
eager canyon
Are quick ysemerald our bis gem?
cinder storm
You reflect the damage of the spell, your damage output doesn't adds to the damage of the spell you reflect
cinder storm
any one can help for spell reflection ? 🙂 what is biggest spell refletion in se...
NO last boss Conductive strike is a big one
But check pins
paper dagger
That's what I wanted to know, was just curious in case I wanted to hold it or get as many as I could in
conductive hits like a truck
warm plinth
Spell reflect damage is considered damage done by the enemy to the enemy. So no point to hold for when you have orbs.
warm plinth
For example
cinder storm
I've been out of town a couple of days, miss depleting keys
turbid shuttle
It is when people are buying tokens, for blizz at least
I'm actually not sure how tokens work, but I thought players bought tokens from blizz for $ and then sold them on AH to other players for gold. If that's true, it's also a player-to-player transfer and so not a gold sink. Gold sinks are things like repairs, respect costs (when that was a thing), etc. The gold has to actually be destroyed (i.e. taken out of the economy)
edgy grail
Blizzard sets the token price
turbid shuttle
apparently not
edgy grail
That is set by blizzard
gloomy vortex
Any suggestion on what to get above 400 ilvl crafted for protection warrior? Currently 385
cedar rune
Naw, it’s set by market price
turbid shuttle
if they're calling it a market price, I don't believe that's true
it's set by the market of buyers and sellers
cedar rune
^^^
edgy grail
If you’ve ever traded a token you’d know you cant set any price
turbid shuttle
if you knew anything about economics you'd know that doesn't mean it's not a market price
cedar rune
It’s based on supply and demand
warm plinth
They set it but it's based on how many tokens are being purchased for real money vs how many are being purchased for gomd.
So the market directs the pricing
Gold
edgy grail
It’s not a free market is my point they determine how much each sale moved the needle
warm plinth
It is indeed a market price, in the same way toilet paper costs more when there's a shortage.
turbid shuttle
and all of this is tangential to the original point, which is that wow tokens are a player-to-player transfer of gold and so not a gold sink
cedar rune
That’s true, it’s still gold circulating
lyric elm
note to self, dont fight lashers near the patrolling whelps in AV
cuz dps are monkeys and will pull
toxic pewter
Anyone else stuck at their family and just want to be playing wow
dusky sentinel
It increases their dps so
warm plinth
I don't spend any holidays with my family so idk
dusky sentinel
Yeah I know. If that happens tho. I usually end up being the one alive. Then I mention "There u go. u just pulled more dps for me while ur dead. good call"
lyric elm
yes you need to pull back and the frontals just hits everyone and they die
pulled back into the room and dps killed later
lyric elm
Because he gets 90 sec off his grieftorch
the true victory
still havent figured out a solid strat for the last boss
doing the wall-tanking
and moving away when the balls gets too much
thats about it
zinc spruce
is prot good
warm plinth
zinc spruce
thought so, ty
blazing condor
i had forgotten how painful it is to pug up rio in first patch
also it feels like dps as a whole are just underperforming in general
its way too common to pull 30k dps with 390 gear
cinder storm
Hunters
tired pivot
on a 20 HoV
warm plinth
I had a 386 warlock who said he was a big pumper do 28k x_x
tired pivot
how do I survive halls of valor herya shield of light attack
I take 1 with shield wall
cinder storm
Realistically you need all three dps doing 50k for a smooth key
tired pivot
do I have to be topped with demoralizing shout and spell reflect?
warm plinth
Probably, yeah
cinder storm
Yeah, SW+SR / Demo last stand and SR / externals and have IP for each, still trucks
Also, have your healer move too so you can get topped after since grievous
jagged pier
i had forgotten how painful it is to pug up rio in first patch
Its the dungeons and its week 2 dude
Cause its gunna suck
Literally second week we had these dungeons
cinder storm
Many returning players too
blazing condor
Literally second week we had these dungeons
grr why cant people instantly be good at everything they do
baffles me
sweet summit
how do I survive halls of valor herya shield of light attack
wall first
external/shield block 2nd
wall 3rd
shield block/external 4th
shield wall 5th
demo+ip+def stance+sr for all
sullen flame
Theres some of that, theres a lot of people standing in swirlies though.
cinder storm
As a dps, if I saw my meters being less than the rest, I'd be simming / going to discords / using WA and trying to better my rotation and using consumables, or just accepting that I shouldn't be doing some keys
blazing condor
for someone who never did HoV and speaking of Herya - how many stacks before you switch sides?
cinder storm
Not everyone is like that and they just want to press buttons
vestal torrent
what's yalls fav m+ prot trinkets? im rocking whelp shell and decoration of flame rn
proud dock
how far away from the clones do u have to be to not amplify dmg in the last CoS boss?
cinder storm
for someone who never did HoV and speaking of Herya - how many stacks before you...
Wait for the frontal, she decides when you move
cinder storm
how far away from the clones do u have to be to not amplify dmg in the last CoS ...
7yds iirc
proud dock
is that roughly the circle visual around the clones?
cinder storm
Yeah, if you play with a team just have one bait clones in the same spot everytime rather than just moving around the corners
Makes it easier to avoid lines too
When people bait everywhere that's when it gets spicy
sullen flame
Thats every court Ive done. So tired of soloing that boss.
tired pivot
wall first
external/shield block 2nd
wall 3rd
shield block/external 4th
shield w...
thanks for the tips
this stuff insane
sweet summit
this stuff insane
it fucks
cinder storm
A dog with a new years hat
tired pivot
can I survive it with shield wall and all the other stuff by going 2 times right?
sweet summit
give me a min
tired pivot
atm we are probably going to just take the death
if I can't survive
I could probs survive with 30% more hp tho
blazing condor
tired pivot
oh fair
slim dove
atm we are probably going to just take the death
there comes a point where you literally might just not have the gear to survive X or Y hit
tired pivot
I wasn't sure how much damage it deals
blazing condor
doing tempest boss in Nokhud this week is just depressing
cinder storm
For the healer, yes
sweet summit
nah just bring orange class healer and it's np
cinder storm
And melees, hunters like to sit outside the arena, on the opposite side of the healer
slim dove
lul
cinder storm
I wasn't sure how much damage it deals
If you have scale and cobalt ring (tank) you could try using them if they proc at the right time might help softening the blow
tired pivot
that is super random yeah
sick sentinel
140k hps
warm plinth
They just need a necklace that gives you a big ass shield every 30 seconds, amirite
cinder storm
Yeah, there's always a chance
sweet summit
torty doesn't have tier either 🙃
sick sentinel
druid best healer confirmed?
cinder storm
Easiest with all the movement involved, they are goat in AV
sick sentinel
my healer main friend wount touch paladins or priest now
warm plinth
Hpriest is a distant third
cinder storm
My disc priest healer is depressed and doesn't want to do keys now
sick sentinel
he completely gave up on them says they both suck ass, whole class tree is fucked for both specs he says
warm plinth
then hpal/rsham, then mw
magic seal
What gems are you guys putting in your elemental lariats? I'm not seeing anything in the wowhead guide for it.
slim dove
What gems are you guys putting in your elemental lariats? I'm not seeing anythin...
str/haste
2x haste/crit
sick sentinel
do you guys just pick literal anything for healer or folllow a meta or somethin
sweet summit
i play with guildies
slim dove
i dont pug
sweet summit
i don't really get to pick
warm plinth
At this point I"m not doing keys high enough to care what the healer is
cinder storm
My healer is disc
warm plinth
And realistically unless you're doing bleeding edge shit, any healer can do anything fine
Like if you're doing sub-20s you're probably okay with anything
Anyone else go to work on professions and see this type of shit and immediately lose motivation
Like what the fuck is all this
it's a gathering profession man
sick sentinel
i think given enough of time for an over hual to professions we will enjoy it
warm plinth
It's just very overwhelming to someone like me who has never really gotten into professions
warm plinth
yuge
cinder storm
At least it's more engaging than before
warm plinth
I don't mind it being more in-depth; it's just not very well introduced in-game
Like I have no idea where to even start
sweet summit
new prof system is too confusing for my pea brain
edgy grail
Yea it needs a better tutorial
cinder storm
Zug zugs all the way to crafting orders
sick sentinel
TLDR finess deftness perception are very much akin to haste, crit, and versa, but for that profession
same idea basically
warm plinth
yeah seems like it's basically find more of the main shit, find more of the rare shit, and do it faster
oblique wharf
Quick question, which flask is the best for m+?
cinder storm
Disciples of Hand and Land
slim dove
rare shit sells, overload titan touched nodes, collect bank
oblique wharf
i mean phial
slim dove
thats it
warm plinth
I'll overload your titan touched node
cinder storm
i mean phial
I use the tanking one since it's cheaper
slim dove
:ooo:
sweet summit
eye of the storm phial kinda fuck good
warm plinth
are consumables actually affordable enough to use them in keys now XD
livid osprey
Who in Blizzard thought it's a good idea to put so many aggresive mobs around last boss in Nokhud and made them all give 0 count
cinder storm
How are you walking so close to them? They are chilling
warm plinth
draw a straight line from centaurs to the stormkeeper npc or whatever he's called
and fly to him
and boom, all trash skipped
sick sentinel
i've been going with tepid versa phials, i didnt fully read this charged isolation one before buying
livid osprey
I mean as like, them not giving count because we were missing like a 0,5%
livid osprey
Just thought that all these red mobs will give a 0,2 or something atleast
sterile bough
does spell block work on that bois ?
cinder storm
Take the patrol near where the elemental that patches you up is, there's two casters
sweet summit
does spell block work on that bois ?
no
warm plinth
I don't believe so? I think it's physical
sterile bough
sweet summit
yep
sterile bough
how do I live that shit on 20 then
sick sentinel
probably meant to get static empowerment phials instead
sterile bough
every 2nd I have shield wall
sweet summit
and shit ur pants for the others
sterile bough
but im gonna run out of them
strong forum
does spell block work on that bois ?
No
warm plinth
I just wanna know who tf designed these mechanics. You're either completely fine and invincible or you just get near 1-shot
sweet summit
yeah on the 4th one you kinda just have to use everything you have (demo+def stance+sr+ip+ls)
6th one external is back up assuming you play with a cool class
uneven mason
Sounds like a job for bsv
fathom sun
Hey all, I recall using a party interrupt tracker in M+ in shadowlands but forgot the addon name, anyone have any suggestions?
cinder storm
Bigwigs
fathom sun
hmmm....that will work for raids, but what about M+ dungeons, does LittleWigs support this functionality?
cinder storm
Yes
fathom sun
ty
steel mauve
can also use a weakaura if you dont already use big/little wigs and dont want an extra addon
storm merlin
might've been omnicd too
flat creek
is lariat considered an embelsihed item? does it count in the 2 embelished items you can equip?
loud patrol
yeah
flat creek
kk, ty
warm plinth
Hey all, I recall using a party interrupt tracker in M+ in shadowlands but forgo...
OmniCD has an interrupt tracker
warm plinth
rare shit sells, overload titan touched nodes, collect bank
so I should specialize in this then?
slim dove
i make 1.5-2 awakened order per titan node
royal lance
Is it ok-ish in Algeth'ar Academy for the Treeboss to stand inside the green circle (Abundance) from Ancient Branch? Or is it highly recommended to pull the boss out of the circle? Sometimes he's casting shit and doesnt move, making positioning him properly not easy
warm plinth
I don't think him being in the circle does anything for him anyway. The only purpose of Abundance is to clear the bleed stacks, which he doesn't get anyway
royal lance
The Tooltip in the Adventure Guide says:
"...healing allies and players within 8yds for 450k and removing splinterbark application".
So i guess it heals the boss?
strong forum
It heals everything yes
warm plinth
Yeah I guess it does.
strong forum
It's not detrimental to heal the boss a bit, the troublesome part is healing the adds
inner tartan
What embellishment should I go for?
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/stormreaver/Cübér
deep drift
hey. what ring should i chose, they are 389 both. https://www.wowhead.com/item=202118/assembly-guardians-ring or https://www.wowhead.com/item=193633/unstable-arcane-loop?bonus=7974
wild kayak
@deep drift this one
blazing condor
hey. what ring should i chose, they are 389 both. https://www.wowhead.com/item=2...
loop
deep drift
the shield isnt worth it?
next jay
does block do anything above 100%?
urban portal
what do you mean
shield block gives you 100% block chance
now you need block values
and youll never reach the point where you can block 100% of the damage
next jay
just wondering like, we have a base block based off mastery etc, does that extra amount do anything with shield block up
like is it converted to value over 100%?
sick sentinel
@strong forum did they fix BV yet
inner tartan
What embellishment item should I go for? I have Lariat
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/stormreaver/Cübér
strong forum
<@192743144276623360> did they fix BV yet
As I said a few days ago, yes
strong forum
are the leg that give 5 stack of haste alright for m+
Trash
strong forum
does block do anything above 100%?
No
Our mastery is crit block, with the addition of normal block chance
sick sentinel
do we have any chance to use the proc from https://www.wowhead.com/item=195480/seal-of-diurnas-chosen?bonus=7935#comments as prot ?
strong forum
Whatever floats your boat
strong forum
do we have any chance to use the proc from https://www.wowhead.com/item=195480/s...
Unstable frostfire belt
sick sentinel
Unstable frostfire belt
isnt frostfire =/= fire ?
strong forum
As mentioned per pin, all embellishments are 1% dps
woven trellis
ok
strong forum
isnt frostfire =/= fire ?
Fire is fire
Same as fel-flame isn't chaos dmg, but fire dmg
candid coral
Is the shield a good crafted choice? I have the lariat and the good sword from AA. So shield would be 3rd best option right? Or just one of my lowest slot gear?
strong forum
Shield and weapon are among your 2 best choices to spark craft
We'll get 1 more spark in 1/2 days anyway
So might aswell use it as an ilvl upgrade
ebon geyser
i felt bad i ask for a crafter but i could make anything because i dont have primal crap
candid coral
I still have a free spark right now. I’m going to use the lariat but I don’t want to craft sword just because I have a really good one. So my second crafted spot will probably be shield.
strong forum
Ngl lariat is quite bait
I regret crafting it
It's literally not special
At all
wild kayak
dont say that i used my spark
candid coral
I’m also new to this dc and tanking in general, can the shields have embellishments? If so what do I need to use?
strong forum
Any item can have embellishements
candid coral
Yeah I jumped on the lariat band wagon so hard haha
strong forum
Some come with pre-installed like lariat or helmet
candid coral
Well not all right?
candid coral
Yeah that’s what I mean. Which should I add to shield
strong forum
Whichever you like idk
It doesn't need an embellishment
I did armor spikes for science
candid coral
Hells yeah. Science it is
cobalt prawn
I did armor spikes for science
hows the science working out ?
wild kayak
spikey
strong forum
science says 1% dmg
elfin adder
hey guys, quick question since i didnt find any infos regarding alchemist stone for prot warriors
is this a "valid" trinket or just so bad, that in guides it is not mentioned? 😛
strong forum
its mediocre at best
loud patrol
i mean its better than other "tank" trinkets
tbh tank trinkets are not in a nice place except for some
cinder storm
As long as there's no "2nd life trinkets" I'm happy
loud patrol
i call em dh trinkets
severe steeple
whats a socket worth in ilvl this exp?
sick sentinel
still stuck with the death save legacy of tyr trinket as best slot 2 option
tired pivot
question, why was I sometimes taking 10% hp in damage with shield wall+spell reflect, while other times 50% hp in damage
on Hyrja 20 shield of light
had me confused
urban portal
link logs or we cant tell you
tired pivot
does anyone have similar experience?
oh, might have been disc critting power world shield
thought there was some block chance I was not aware of
blazing condor
if you used spell block
tepid sage
Have we a WA for 2P plz ?
tired pivot
if you used spell block
I did
tepid sage
tf why you need 2 piece tracker
LOLok
blazing condor
how tf is raid decanter still bis smh
urban portal
i dont feel like pinging a mod for name change
sweet summit
question, why was I sometimes taking 10% hp in damage with shield wall+spell ref...
urban portal
nice 97
distant thicket
has anyone encountered MD dispelling power word fort?
sweet summit
nop
distant thicket
been happening to me during bursting and idk why
urban portal
wait that just mitigation
sick sentinel
thats a bug if thats whats happening
urban portal
what kind of mitigation you got
blazing condor
built differently
tired pivot
yeah, something like that happened to me
urban portal
there is no way IP will mitigate more than 300k
tired pivot
still had loads of IP on me at the time
sweet summit
that is my thought
i'll have to check temple logs
think it is crit blocks with spell block
not being capped
?
blazing condor
mastery new meta
blazing condor
ok now we dont tell blizzard anything
lime urchin
blazing condor
sweet summit
pull or 2nd tree add is what we do
cinder storm
On anything under 15s on pull works for me
craggy pilot
pull or 2nd tree add is what we do
2nd tree is usually when he does uproar as well no?
craggy pilot
On anything under 15s on pull works for me
if you have better dps than my guildies, maybe
sweet summit
it's between the add spawns
blazing condor
on pull you got all CDs up and on 2nd phase you got BL to compensate if you need it
sweet summit
does add -> tree+dot -> adds -> add spawn
cinder storm
if you have better dps than my guildies, maybe
Decent dps, but I tell them that adds are their job and I just leap the f out everytime, died a couple of times already, so not taking my chances
warm plinth
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856973963230183475/1057005694500487208/im...
monkas
sweet summit
+20 hyrja fucks
warm plinth
Legion says hi 😂
tired pivot
she really does fuck
sweet summit
ye
tired pivot
got me to 10% or less with every lack of shield wall on shield of light
warm plinth
Can't wait til we get the Maw and people getting 1 shot by Ymiron again
sweet summit
i always time IV for right after the hit
tired pivot
unless spell reflect crit I guess
tired pivot
I just healed myself right up after she hit me
with IV yeah
but seeing myself go that low gave me shivers
to think we wanted to try the 21 first
I shudder
sweet summit
how did it go
tired pivot
some mad planning
sweet summit
jesus
tired pivot
and he is kind of a god disc
sweet summit
actually mental
tired pivot
sad that disc isn't a god
cinder storm
For lust timing is better to go Fenrir yeah?
sweet summit
nahj
lust first pull with 3 packs and dragon
then u should have lust back for hyrja
cinder storm
I feel we always miss one lust going herjya first
Yeah we do that, but we don't have it up for Fenrir
Unless we wipe somewhere
sweet summit
we have like 2 min left when we get there and just do bears while we wait for lust
cinder storm
Ah, I'm too scared to do bears without speed buff
warm plinth
Who needs armor when you can just block 4Head
sweet summit
they're not that bad, you can call that you need a reset on like 10 stacks (so melee can fuck off) and then ur shilling
grim grotto
ya lust first pull not first boss. and try to skip some mid trash, so u have more trash between hyria and fenrir for the 10 minutes
cinder storm
They don't charge as long as you stay near them, they've yet to kill a dps in my case so I didn't think they could do that
Good to know
sweet summit
smart move
sweet summit
stutter steps are insane in HoV actually
cinder storm
Looks funky with speed buff haha
grim grotto
do u have a max dps talent build ? sometimes going with guild mates lower keys and dont need much defensives there . maybe good trinkets suggestions too?
slim dove
stutter steps are insane in HoV actually
bro its like playing DDR in there
sweet summit
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUkRRARpFRRBBNVUVEVERFVYVVQDQBA think this is the best build for dps without sacrificing too much defensiveness
sweet summit
bro its like playing DDR in there
real
sweet summit
stinker trinket
slim dove
then he peaks like 300k dps on that first hov pull because boon does like 2 mil
frosty mango
Now everyone knows what it's like to be a fury war
Tanks always pulling packs out of your aoe
sweet summit
i got to dps 2 keys just now 
cinder storm
Me in SL: nooo 
I don't want to pull you guys don't kick and I'm afraid of dying.
Me in DF: can you guys stop dying? 
Suffering from success
sweet summit
based
slim dove
i got to dps 2 keys just now <:gladge:963970137701109820>
its pretty relaxing ngl, dpsing keys as fury
sweet summit
i still call kicks and stops so idk if i'd call it relaxing 
frosty mango
Could prob stay prot still outdps 75% of people below 15s tbh
slim dove
Could prob stay prot still outdps 75% of people below 15s tbh
yeah but you gotta set the pace and call kicks and stops and zzzz
some days i just wanna zugg
ashen grail
Hello ! Excuse me, what are you thinking about this shield ? 🙂
slim dove
Hello ! Excuse me, what are you thinking about this shield ? 🙂
garbo make primal
cinder storm
No
stark lance
At which point do you take Into the Fray over Heavy Repercussions?
cinder storm
Temple first pack is where dps brain really shines. I charge and pull elemental, while I'm doing that they burst caster (without kicking it). Sure, I could kick it and stun tidal blast which they never kick either way
But why dps don't focus on big guy and cleave small guys
slim dove
Temple first pack is where dps brain really shines. I charge and pull elemental,...
because zugg
cinder storm
At which point do you take Into the Fray over Heavy Repercussions?
Depends, are you talking about m+ or raid? Also, talents in pins are good for each content. HR is solid
slim dove
its like dps sitting in fel enforcer aoe
on fort raging weeks
when they could sidestep and los
cinder storm
I can't pull both elementals on temple because people won't los them, like they see two elementals and their brain shorts
tired pivot
based
if you want to see the disc in action on that 20 halls, from Arcane PoV tho, I have a link
sweet summit
shoot
tired pivot
cinder storm
I run with a disc, I wanna see it too
frosty mango
I can't pull both elementals on temple because people won't los them, like they ...
I have a macro that just spams "LOS THE AOE YOU CLOWNS"
sweet summit
wtf this ui sucks
slim dove
lmao dps pov
neon elk
Are u guys ( who pug) having some serious trouble with pugs these first weeks ? Xd and i mean, people with 2k + rio failing basic mechanics, healers doing 25-30k hps etc ..
solar crown
Are u guys ( who pug) having some serious trouble with pugs these first weeks ?...
Im just hoping it gets better. Eithee mechanics are super duper hard this exp, or dps are just peanutbrains who didnt know they existed in SL
neon elk
Mechanics are like always imo, do this or get killed.
slim dove
real gamers
sweet summit
yeah good call
cinder storm
Your healer loves that mage and the innervate
tired pivot
mage gets all the innervates
sweet summit
based
tired pivot
had me unnerved as well
reef holly
Are u guys ( who pug) having some serious trouble with pugs these first weeks ?...
I’m having a hard time in the 5-9 range. Either the healer is bad or do’s taking way too much damage. Hard to tell. But when I’m dead and the healer has 3/4 mana…
Dps *
tired pivot
first weeks are always like this
neon elk
Im having issues with 14/15s rn, whole group is hovering at 20%, healer is full mans, doing less HPS than me .
tired pivot
everyone is still learning what stuff does
I literally had a 19 key where we died to the most basic shit
neon elk
Or then we wipe on boss and i see one of dps is like 20k lower than rest..
reef holly
first weeks are always like this
Yeah I figured as much
tired pivot
everyone is still learning
even the best players are making basic mistakes due to not being used to the dungeons
blazing condor
Does light shield also get damaged amp
Oh nvm
I was gonna ask why not always stay in light if you just gotta dodge
But theres the circle too
tired pivot
circle oneshots yeah
neon elk
Also feels like imposobile to get into keys, and unless i have cos/dmbg people arent even joining xd
slim dove
Also feels like imposobile to get into keys, and unless i have cos/dmbg people a...
lol cos keys are hot rn
literally everyone wants whetstone
kindred willow
How do you guys handle the frontal on hyrja in Hov? Had some real problems living that in a +21 earlier
sweet summit
@tired pivot idk if it helps but this is how we did it https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1687178677?t=00h42m23s
neon elk
Like idk if there is so few people playing this week on 15s keys, or if they simply avoid 70% of dungs
tired pivot
it will help
sweet summit
How do you guys handle the frontal on hyrja in Hov? Had some real problems livin...
link above
tired pivot
can't really find another warrior to watch
kindred willow
Oh wait you were just talking about it, mb
sweet summit
aye np
tired pivot
yeah, I can see the difference in healer class already
sweet summit
orange class owns
flat sorrel
What weak auras / addons do y’all use? I’m new to tanking and I’m trying to get a good setup
sweet summit
elvui, omnicd, weak auras (class/spec specific, dungeon pack, raid pack, externals on me, etc) warpdeplete, method raid tools, big wigs, little wigs
tired pivot
orange class owns
I showed the video to my disc and he just laughed when he saw druid healer
sweet summit
hehe
sudden palm
Would you swap cobalt's shielding ring with any 398 ilvl ring? Feels like that shield is really good during a whole dungeon run
sweet summit
if the 398 ring has haste i would go for it
sudden palm
Thank you
cinder storm
That druid made it seem so chill
sweet summit
it is 😎
sudden palm
Did they ever fix BV?
sweet summit
sudden palm
SORRY
sweet summit
why are you sorry
mellow minnow
wich trinkets are the best for the protect?
sudden palm
Cuz it's pinned I assume and I didn't check rofl
quaint folio
hey all a couple of questions
- what is the formula for maximum ignore pain cap
- can you stack the duration of shield block? is there a pandemic timing like there is with dots or does the second shield block override the first?
sweet summit
it's not pinned unless i'm blind
sudden palm
Okay yeah it's not; I take my apology back ;)
sweet summit
hey all a couple of questions
1. what is the formula for maximum ignore pain ca...
- 30% of max hp
- it stacks up to 18 seconds with HR being able to extend further than that iirc
cinder storm
Shield charge can go over base no?
strong forum
no
strong forum
bolster also adds +15sec to the cap for LS' duration
sick sentinel
boss 2 ruby life pools, i can see that being tough on 20
edgy grail
Only if people don’t know how to play the fight
You have to bait
It’s the most unthreatening boss in all the dungeons if you play it correctly
Last boss the dot can get overwhelming even if played properly
fickle bear
The Dot he does is scary
sweet summit
ya 2nd boss fucks tank
sick sentinel
we depleted a +5 because we wiped to that boss 😦
fickle bear
like did a 16 and it was huge dmg incomming on 2nd
edgy grail
It’s basically the only damage tho
strong forum
the safe strat to that boss, is always pump 1 of them immune
solemn vessel
does anyone have a WA tracking which stance theyre currently in?
strong forum
its slower but safer
sick sentinel
that wasn't much fun, but, stuck around to complete at least
sweet summit
rlp nome..
edgy grail
Immune?
edgy grail
You are in temple
fickle bear
Good morning Nome
edgy grail
LOL
strong forum
surely thats totjs
sweet summit
i think sending 2nd boss jade to immune is int
fickle bear
Nome chilling in Temple while we fight RLP
edgy grail
Nah its not
strong forum
by like 70%
sweet summit
if you can just swap on like 7 stacks
sick sentinel
@strong forum did they fix BV
sweet summit
yeah but you also slow down the kill
strong forum
BRO
edgy grail
The problem is people think you ALWAYS have to do 7 or 10
strong forum
i answered this already
edgy grail
You can go to immune when the party damage is overwhelming and 6-7 otherwise
That’s how you play it
sick sentinel
i ran a 7 AA and we had hardly any problems outside of RNG melee death cuz reasons
fickle bear
7 aa is not scary
sweet summit
yeah but you also slow down the kill
you can't passively cleave the other one
strong forum
vs open world mobs its still bugged it seems
fickle bear
14+ AA Tree without people moving correctly is scary tho
strong forum
but i 100% swear in m+ it worked
sick sentinel
no, but i have that key on lockdown now, i don't think it would pose much of a threat later on when i want to do it for 15
sick sentinel
holidays.exe
strong forum
i swear it worked in m+ when i did keys
sick sentinel
holidays time off .exe has commenced
fickle bear
Well atleast i ran a 16 RLP ++ im happy for today not gonna lie shit was scary
pallid quiver
I'm assuming there's something hella fucky with its coding
sick sentinel
im waiting for giga super duper pwar nerf
edgy grail
We just did a 16 RLP
fickle bear
and it dropped the hoof
fickle bear
F
sweet summit
how do you check stacks of 2nd boss jade on logs
sick sentinel
that boss is rita flameflux or whatever in motherlode + standadard dragon
@strong forum sorry to bother you sir but do we spec into BV now
don't see how its hard
me 3rd grade
no understando
sick sentinel
boomer voice is required cuz old man yells at clouds memes
pallid quiver
We still have no idea what specifically is causing the bug or when it works because we all see different things
Neither is a major difference in ability, so grab whichever you like, though BrV is technically better
unkempt narwhal
how much vers do I need for like +15s?
steep sparrow
Guys I have a question
How good is Ancestral Protectors Stone trinket? Ive been using it since week 1 or smth on 372 ilvl and I sont know if I should change it anytime soon
lofty mica
Is there a big difference between the crafted sword and axe? Or is it w.e which one you get
sweet summit
how much vers do I need for like +15s?
no amount of vers is required for any content
sweet summit
Is there a big difference between the crafted sword and axe? Or is it w.e which ...
doesn't matter if it sword, axe or mace
lofty mica
Cheers
sweet summit
Guys I have a question
How good is Ancestral Protectors Stone trinket? Ive been ...
doesn't seem great and 372 is very low ilvl
should be able to replace it fast with (almost) any dungeon trinket
tired forge
made my lariat and im torn on what to make 2nd. I only do M+ would sheild be the best value or do the bracers?
unkempt topaz
Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask but if anyone here can make rank 4/5 shields on EU pls DM me
sweet summit
can't do cross server work orders
fickle bear
Need to be same server
unkempt topaz
Twisting Nether
sweet summit
trade chat is your best bet
unkempt topaz
Yeah been spamming for ages and no one :/
tender quartz
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Lf4X8FP2GjvZTaKH#translate=true&type=damage-done&boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=1&target=95&cutoff=3 did I set the filter Correctly to the 2nd Infuser ( the ones that spawn on the Platform ) , not the ones that "bring you up" since those spawn at 1.20 and Platform around 1.45ish? Or am I seeing this wrong. On Dathea
sweet summit
looks like a correct filter
tender quartz
I'm really second-guessing here myself seeing me on Top as a Tank which would explain the padding by the others after 22 wipes. We killed it in 6 tries with a random group and they took 15s on average ( the pug ) to nuke Add, my guild took 40 seconds roughly sometimes
Oh wow.
sweet summit
there were a few wipes before 2nd platform which mean the players that go there are relatively lower than your "team"
tender quartz
Yea that I do note I was more on about "my group" I didn't forget that
We did swap later for a bit so they went first to see it
But thanks!
sweet summit
woven trellis
guys
Liu flameheart
she OS me
what should i do
i dont take damage from all dungeon
but her kick os me
orchid mural
pardon, what makes the All-totem of the Master - (trink from Kurog) so good?
warm plinth
Probably shouldn't get hit by the kick :p
fickle bear
^this
woven trellis
im not talking about the 4 things
just the initial kick
wait what
u can avoid it?
fickle bear
just run out?
warm plinth
pardon, what makes the All-totem of the Master - (trink from Kurog) so good?
It's uncapped aoe
tender quartz
Speaking of Liu, we can Spellblock P1 but not P2 right?
warm plinth
Yeah you just run out of the circle friend
tender quartz
Or did I mistime my Reflects in P2 :x
warm plinth
That being said, the serpent strike is not avoidable and also hits like a truck
woven trellis
well im doing that but i never didnt get the damage
yeah
thats what im talking about
tender quartz
Gotcha
warm plinth
ok just wasn't sure since there's a kick and a strike
Kick is the circle that has the 4 fire waves
woven trellis
it almost OS me
warm plinth
Strike is a tank mechanic
woven trellis
yeah ofc i avoid that
warm plinth
And yeah there's a few bosses that have just ridiculous tankbusters
Just have a plan for defensives
fickle bear
i dont remember it hitting that hard?
warm plinth
Yeah, it's a good idea at least
woven trellis
what is IV
sweet summit
spell block is very good in that dungeon
warm plinth
Impending Victory
warm plinth
idk how often it hits but might be better to spell block first since you might have it back up later in the fight for another
sweet summit
it's a ~16 cd cast
woven trellis
but spell block doesnt guarantee its going to be blocked right
sweet summit
healer should track it and know it's coming
warm plinth
which is totally fine and balanced
sweet summit
it does if shield block is active
warm plinth
but spell block doesnt guarantee its going to be blocked right
If you have shield block up, it is
woven trellis
ok