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zealous willow
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Yogi must be the best consistent troll in discord history

full carbon
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Ur so quirky!

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🤪

sick sentinel
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i did2 ksm last expansion and ksm bfa

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all pug, never a premade

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quit from mid panda till bfa

full carbon
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gz

sick sentinel
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im not a great gigachad gamer, but am gamer

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if i was younger and healthier i could be running +20s or at least 15s right now

chrome falcon
sick sentinel
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could have ran 23 24 maybe on wo, dunno dont wanna say that for sure

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like in sl run 22 to 24

jagged pier
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sorry guys i lied i dont use shield wall on CD which i never actually said to do i said use as needed, but still need less healing the more than half the dps maybe if i did i would need less healing that all the dps :Sadge:

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maybe i could have mitigated a tiny bit more

chrome falcon
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how do you have dps taking more dps than a bdk weirdge

sick sentinel
jagged pier
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second screen shot

chrome falcon
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no sorry i mean

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how do you have dps players

jagged pier
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its raz

chrome falcon
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with more dtps than the bdk

ionic roost
jagged pier
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tones of aoe damage

chrome falcon
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i mean i guess

ionic roost
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you are actively trying to kill your raid in p3 tho

chrome falcon
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good

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as he should

ionic roost
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you can get those numbers down i believe

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then you can get a kill

jagged pier
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cool

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we werent dying to that

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but okay

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where all the dps deaths to that

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find it in the log please

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or did we run out of room

sick sentinel
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also

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im subbed ril end of fucking feburary, ao i just dont play what i paid for.... (looks to steam library..)

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trapped here in hell with the rest of you guya

ionic roost
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also big doubt on running out of space

jagged pier
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well u havent found anydeaths to me 'not mitigating the beam'

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and ppl were alive until the room ran out of space

ionic roost
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its obviously not a direct death, but sending everyone low into a grip combo

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will kill them

jagged pier
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and im aaware the healers can dps almost like theres cds running we at certain points to cover damage

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im telling no one went low

ionic roost
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big cope

jagged pier
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well u posted a screenshot without timing which one

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could have been a last one where i was like the only one alive

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🤷

ionic roost
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you are purple

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you enterd p3 later than us

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die earlier

jagged pier
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cool still dont know which pull or attempt

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or thunderous breath

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but okay

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cool your guild is better than ours didnt dispute that

ionic roost
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idk your latest low pull

sick sentinel
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sorry

ionic roost
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your healers had no time to catch up on healing

jagged pier
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so the pull where we had 4 dead going into last phase

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cool

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no wonder we didnt kill it as fast as u with 4 dps dead before final phase

sick sentinel
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on the vaults key, i aparently "pulled the boss without the healer"

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yeah, so not only i gotta learn DF dungeons, but some legion and wod ones, kinda know ToJS thankfully

jagged pier
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really killed the raid there as u can see by my debuff has just exploded thats the health of the raid

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really killed the raid there

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omg

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didnt even use the cds assigned as timers were out on note and that healer was dead for the entire phase

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but yer really big trouble for the raid there

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my apologizes

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even tho as u can also see

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SW is on CD because i used it on the beam

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👍

wraith ether
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honest question, not trolling: can't you just step to the side and not get hit by the beam?

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that's what we were doing

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it was on normal tho

jagged pier
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not the one in final phase

wraith ether
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ah ok

fallen pulsar
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Unrelated but which weakaura set do you use jakey

jagged pier
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its not WAs

fallen pulsar
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On the center of your screenshot? 😮

jagged pier
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yer thats TMW

fallen pulsar
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Ooo gotcha

blazing condor
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Tmw gang

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Love that addon

sick sentinel
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im too stupid to use Tell Me When

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that, or i don't give enough fucks

blazing condor
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Tmw is literally WA for dummies i feel like

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You make an icon and say ”i want to do this” and then just click the options you want

sick sentinel
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weak aura is simpler and more widely used overall, like the android smart phone

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peps vs coke, mcdonalds vs burger king, walmart vs k mart, recount vs details, dbm vs little wigs/big wigs

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same damn shit, the other format, shit, i can even remember when weak auras... was called.. power auras!

hazy bronze
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Left out skada sadge

sick sentinel
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skada is how you say.... skuffed imo

jagged pier
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also just for context as i keep saying its important, from the screenshot that was linked, this is what the raid looked like when i was about to take that last thunderous blast
yer really killed ppl with not mitigating it. almost like ppl died to having stacks from the floor overtime like i said in the first place

sick sentinel
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i would prefer, something baseline in the game not an addon, its like, the game is watching how you are running your keystone, or raid, or world boss and it doesn't tell you your dps or nothing, but it gives you a report card after you kill the world boss or finish the m+, you died 10 seconds in and spread the bufff? D- F rank, you took no dmg and contributed most dps, did dispels, you get an A- B+

jagged pier
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the 3 healers as u can see had 10, 7, 8 repectively because we havent practiced the overlapping mechanics so died to those

sick sentinel
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totally meaningless score, but it gives you an idea if you did shit or not

fluid shard
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Idk why you are even trying to debate w/ them Jakey. Thanks for sharing the logs though, that’s useful!

jagged pier
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because calling ppl out without proper information and posting stuff without context to prove a point makes no sense just so they can win an argument

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at least i have the recordings so i actually know what happened

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which is why u should also record your play

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👍

ionic roost
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You got smoked by every thundering blast not just the last one

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Cope harder

jagged pier
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okay

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i mean the logs and the recording state otherwise but u believe what u do

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and continue to believe IO is a ST dps increase

ionic roost
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checks my sims it is

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Checks my gameplay it is

sturdy sable
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Better record yourself

trail crow
reef holly
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How is everyone keeping up Shield block 100% with the cooldown? Using shield charge in cd as well?

jagged pier
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well its talents and proper play that give u too it

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u need 3 block talents out of HR ED Bolster and Bulwark to have 100% uptime

severe hatch
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So at what ilvl ring should I consider replacing my Cobalt Assembly ring?

craggy pilot
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Since SS resets so often

cerulean urchin
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my fury friend finally gets a shield from azure vault 15 we did

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he cant trade

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im not mad

craggy pilot
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Why not craft shield 🤔

cerulean urchin
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i wasted m spark week 1

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i crafted weapon week 3

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didnt think ahead, my fault

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i thought it would just drop eventually but fucking blizzard ofc not

ionic roost
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I mean it will, just after the first 5

glad stag
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wondering what trinkets are BiS for Tank warriors in m+?

sick sentinel
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all totem if you can get it and duno

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probably ruby if you are doing raid for alltotem

glad stag
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how is WII

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whispering incarnate icon

hushed stratus
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good if you can get it

sick sentinel
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dunno, im not very good at the game, but i do know the totem trinket is good for us seen lots of discussion about it being good

glad stag
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my whole group would need it right?

craggy pilot
earnest canyon
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Hey everyone
What embellishments do you suggest for a fresh char?
Was thinking shield + lariat or shield+weapon

sick sentinel
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i wouldnt want to put out fake news and incur the wrath of jakey

hushed stratus
craggy pilot
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But otherwise neck or anything else is also good

glad stag
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has avoidance

sick sentinel
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i snuck into LFR as fury set my loot to prot, both dropped, won them at 376

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the other shield i was equipping is haste crit indestructible 376, so the lfr one isn't even upgrade

glad stag
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just looking for another trinket while i wait for my m+ group to get it

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Ruby and Totem got it 😛

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would a high one of these be any good compared to the raid trinkets?

sick sentinel
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its on the better side but it can be MEH if you cant pop it early

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cuz it last for 20 seconds, so if you dont get all stacks, you have wait all those 20 seconds

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you could easily get it to proc faster with battering ram i bet.

glad stag
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two one use trinkets might be a tad annoying though

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thanks for info

sick sentinel
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yes, if you use any 2 on use trinkets, either puts the other on a 20s cd, regardless of trinket CD

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it can make using both optimally quite akward if you ask me

violet spruce
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Just macro it with avatar

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With rage use CD reduction talent, you should be able to use it with avatar every other one

thorny quiver
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Why is sophic devo 400* dps loss over sophic writ? Is it because the compared sword doesn't have fang embellishment in the sim?

broken light
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is the leg embellishment really that bad as the pinned comment suggests?

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%10 haste seems pretty good on pulls where we use our cds

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i mean the first 10 seconds when we use our damage cds

fading isle
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Its there some bis items that are 100% needed for prot war?

sullen lichen
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a shield

fading isle
sullen lichen
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LOL

sick sentinel
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a 1 handed weapon

sick sentinel
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str 1 handed weapon, should clarify

fading isle
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Too helpfull sarcastic answers kisses for u guys

sick sentinel
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no/bad shield = you get flattened like pancake

strong forum
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for me devotion sims higher

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so yeah its your fang adornment

jagged pier
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yer was gunna say dev sims higher for me too

thorny quiver
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yeah will check the difference without the embellishment

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What are you guys going to do with your third spark?

strong forum
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weapon

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im still stuck with 385

thorny quiver
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Oh damn, big day for you on reset

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I have shield/wep so was thinking the neck

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for that dps gain I will be keeping my writ tyvm, still about 80k on my server

sick sentinel
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im prot

strong forum
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huge

sick sentinel
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so, give me damn 2 handers

thorny quiver
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entire expansion feels like a scam, my gold reserves have plummeted

sick sentinel
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still on 376 1 hand raid finder weapon

pastel remnant
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do i really need the cobalt assembly ring or i can do good without? just asking cause i see alot use it...and not a fan of grending rep but if its really good i will

stable valve
stable valve
pastel remnant
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so its really a must to have?

sick sentinel
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boots out of nessecity, was interested in wrists already,

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no boots would drop

strong forum
severe hatch
pastel remnant
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@stable valve so its really a must to have ?

severe hatch
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I'm thinking I will go neck / belt for embellishments as I will want to pick up engi bracers for brez long-term

thorny quiver
pastel remnant
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bah if its really good i will farm it. i didnt know that ring was that good

sick sentinel
thorny quiver
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I didn't bother with it and I am chilling

sick sentinel
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Yeah I did a 14 at 360 Ilvl without it so idk

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I’d anything you’d probably play the dmg ring right?

thorny quiver
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If you have to ask if the ring is worth it you probably aren't doing 20s atm where it could be a diffy

stable valve
# strong forum shield neck

Nice. My alt went BS for weaponcrafting for my team.
Holiday stuff this week so was waiting to craft my second. Probs will just do neck and shield next week. The 405 weapon first raid week was very fat though.

You do the normal shield w/ crit/haste?

sick sentinel
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FML open door, 2 feet of snow

strong forum
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ye full haste/crit

limpid anchor
edgy grail
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Open door insta shrimpdick

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Its fucking freezing

tiny hare
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this shit carry hard

stable valve
# pastel remnant <@488418912589840395> so its really a must to have ?

Wouldn’t say that tbh
9/10 out of ten I’m taking essentially no dmg in 14/15 keys. Just doing it so my dps/healers have more leeway to learn

I’m only losing about 550 dps on sims vs my other rings, so it’s definitely worth the trade off imo.
The dps ring from cobalt is also very strong too though

digital frigate
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Hello. I am normally good at maintaining aggro. I also have mouseover for taunt. But I have noticed sometimes someone in my group will attack something before my charge / revenge / thunderclap goes in usually in the process of me charging. Is there a better way for me to deal with getting aggro when this occurs and they force mob to run to them?

stable valve
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Just “farm” it when the world quest or pvp world quest is up

digital frigate
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This is about a second of time, so within the same second I am charging and someone is already casting an ability on a mob that we're going to engage.

sick sentinel
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not my car but

limpid anchor
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Wouldn’t you take the dps ring and not the def ring tho

sick sentinel
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we have this much snow

thorny quiver
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Let them die, they will learn eventually (probably not)

sick sentinel
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yogivision

limpid anchor
sick sentinel
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i leveld in khaz modan in 2005

severe hatch
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Is there an ilvl of ring with ideal stats that we'd like to swap cobalt out at?

digital frigate
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Yes but it cause issue in my keys. I normally don't deplete at 15/16. How can I address this without the person being offended.

ember needle
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Hey, where can I find the best talents for MM+pls?

sick sentinel
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i said 2 feet not 2 meters

digital frigate
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It make me feel bad because I work hard to build up my key and I get DPS that do this despite them having good rio and allegedly good records.

thorny quiver
digital frigate
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OK I will try that

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thank you

thorny quiver
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Can be nice about it before key starts and just say give me a second for a few globals in a pack before you blast, I don't want you guys to die to aggro

digital frigate
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OK I will try this again.

thorny quiver
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No one can get offended at that :)

digital frigate
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Thank you rain

full violet
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Any advice on how to tank Ele Boss in Nokhud on higher levels? Havin a real hard time getting shredded. Just got told prot dont need any heals im doin something hardly wrong 🙂

digital frigate
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If you step out of range from boss use spell reflect

stable valve
lusty narwhal
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Does anyone know if Brutal Vitality talent is still bugged?

full violet
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Yea i do that for dmg

stable valve
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But you can SR it 😈

full violet
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I know i know

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Talking more about intermission

stable valve
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The run around pulsing dmg phase?

full violet
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Yes

digital frigate
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During phase you have to find healer that knows to get orbs

full violet
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Thanks

digital frigate
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Building rage for this part to maintain ignore pain

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is important becausue it will helpfully mitigate the damage there

full violet
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I worried im an idiot

digital frigate
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And saving a CD there is important too

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We fail 18 nok but time 17

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But were selective with things

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I brought Warlock for cookies mainly

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To have additional consumable on 1m

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And before start timer we spoke about how we would move on the second boss

full violet
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I died near end of Phase after all CDs and healer told me i had to stay alive on my own

digital frigate
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Do you check how many orbs they have and range check?

full violet
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Nah

digital frigate
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Because sometimes you get healer who run around and dont bother healing much

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You have to have some situational awareness there and look at logs and range check yourself.

full violet
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He Just wrote me healers dont need to heal Warriors there (2,3k Dude there)

stable valve
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Are you sitting in dstance for that phase?

digital frigate
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If you cannot trust healer to be in range to you then you be in range to them and force everyone else adjust

full violet
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Yes

digital frigate
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what was key +?

full violet
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It was only 17 tho

digital frigate
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I dont know any warrior who can heal themselves in 17

full violet
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Yea

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I wanted Just to make Sure im Not an idiot

digital frigate
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You are not but also next time you go in

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Look at situation

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And speak about it before pull on NOK

full violet
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He was in Range

digital frigate
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It's an easy dungeon

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Yes but also check his orb

full violet
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He was Just blatantly NOT healing me on purpose

digital frigate
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Oh then start with that

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in which case we dont need this conversation

full violet
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This.

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I figured i might ask if Theres a way to stay alive on our own

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Pugs are wild

digital frigate
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The problem is people have inflated ego over getting past 2k rio

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Youu will encounter this a lot

full violet
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True true

digital frigate
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and all healers i know are angry

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need to have some sleep or something

full violet
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Im sitting at 2,4k rn and still think im bad

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Doin so much mistakes and shit

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Ruby First Boss shredding me too

stable valve
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That boss slaps

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The SR is funny though, but oof if it’s not up

full violet
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Frontal from second boss in halls ouchie too

stable valve
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I had a healer in my 16 RBL that told me to take bitter immunity so they didn’t have to dispel me that fight 🙂

full violet
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Huh

stable valve
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Yup

full violet
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Theres no debuff no?

lusty narwhal
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i assume spell block also works on ruby first boss?

stable valve
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The whelps but a stacking debuff on you

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At 8 stacks you get frozen

full violet
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Oh

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Never happened 😂

lusty narwhal
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is primal chill the spelll they cast thats interruptable?

stable valve
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Wrecking throw talent is really nice for that boss too.

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And the flame dancers if you don’t bring a purge

woven trellis
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how good is battle scarred scale guys

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its not considered cause rare loot or quest drop

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in the wowhead guide

jagged pier
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Theres like 100 scale trinkets link the item or screenshot it please

lusty narwhal
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but its simming lower than my 372 treemouths splinter

woven trellis
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this one

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also, why is icyveins not even considering whispering incarnate icon while wowhead just straight up says its the better option

jagged pier
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That would be a question for mwahi tbh

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I think whispering is a good trinket tbf but only for raid

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Cant reli on everyone having it in a m+

woven trellis
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i mean even if ppl dont have it in m+ its still huge strength + 100% uptim 500 versatility

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sounds good to me

jagged pier
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I mean its 500 vers

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Thats eh like a coiplre of percent

steady steppe
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.

jagged pier
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And its not 100% uptime its when it procs right?

woven trellis
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no its 100% uptime

hardy ridge
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Would the frostfire belt embellishment be bad for sanguine weeks?

jagged pier
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I mean i would take greiftorch/whestone and all totem in keys tbh

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And only whispering in raid where u get the 3 stats not 1

shy yoke
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Is Lariat still a good item to craft or should I just focus on ilvl rather than effects?

jagged pier
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Might not even run it then grieftorch and somthing else like whetstone could be very strong

jagged pier
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I have a 418 one and i dont regret it

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But i also have a mythic shield and wep

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So crafting them arent a high prio

shy yoke
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418 already, how did you made it that high?

jagged pier
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Cause i run mythic plus over level 16

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U only need 10 to get the item to do that

shy yoke
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I got one from the first boss in mythic on Vault but didn't know they would also drop in keys on +16s lol

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I suppose so, even tho my war is an alt, I like to min-max his gear and farm the "bis" on each slot mostly for M+s

earnest canyon
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what should I drop for disrupting shout? thunderlord?

obsidian path
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Feels like the weakest talent to me

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Dropped TL for batering ram

high drum
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battering ram gang

median tulip
jagged pier
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Dropping punish

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👀

limpid anchor
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Why would you drop punish

median tulip
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I mean I don't even ruin TaN

jagged pier
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And if it is m+ u for sure should be hr not itf

limpid anchor
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Just gotta chill a bit to avoid gaps

cerulean spear
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so guys this weeks vault i have 415s from M+ and 389 from raid. if i get 389 tierpiece should i take for 2 set or is ILVL better

jovial birch
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You should hope to get a tier piece in your 415 M+ slot problem solved.

cerulean spear
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OFC i hope that

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😛

jovial birch
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👍 good luck!

cerulean spear
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BUT IF it doesnt

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whats the choice

jagged pier
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I mean in like 4 weeks u can cataylst pieces to tier

median tulip
cerulean spear
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i only care about whats stronger for week 3 m+ pushing

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literally all i care bout

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2 set

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or 415

median tulip
cerulean spear
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isnt simming not great for evalutating suvivability of 2 set etc?

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of tanks

jovial birch
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You will have to see what gear slot the 415 ends up and how much of an ilvl upgrade it is for that slot and weigh it against 2 set. Can’t really give a blanket answer.

limpid anchor
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Then ilvl bcs you get another vault for week 3

median tulip
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(and before you say it; yes I know you can't Sim defence, but Tank DPS matters more, you're already tanky enough if you're doing +16s

cerulean spear
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so yall just simming for dps?

lilac jay
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We get a spark next week or? When will we get the next spark after? 2 weeks again? And is there a limit to crafting?

cerulean spear
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5 sparks wearable max

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2 embellishments

jovial birch
median tulip
surreal birch
earnest canyon
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I mean spell block is like giga situational

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and bolster is overkill imho

surreal birch
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so let's take useless "2k per block"

proud dock
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if you were to take intervene, what do you usually drop for it?

median tulip
summer eagle
median tulip
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TBH, In M+ I spec, gear and play for DPS, and DGAF about defensiveness

lilac jay
humble ferry
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Anyone else done with this week of m+? Super boring as prot warr, easy affixes for us but atleast 1 player dying every pack pff

lusty narwhal
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feel like neck/helm are bnest

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but i htink they are marginal

humble ferry
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And some bosses still need heavy tuning imo

median tulip
humble ferry
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I don't like any dungeon this week tbh

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Guild runs must be much more fun than pugging 😄

median tulip
lilac jay
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If I need a shield asap it would be best to craft the normal one with BiS stats next week + embalish armor spikes then drop embalishemnt when we get a new spark or?

willow delta
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Maybe you guys can help me with this:
I'm trying to have a mouseover heroic throw macro(for pulling mostly) that also just throws at my current target if I don't have a mouseover. This usually works perfectly fine with heals in my Macros but I fail to make it work with Heroic Throw or any other Throw... Any ideas? 😦

proud dock
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try this?>

willow delta
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one sec

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Works like a charm, holy hell I've been trying around for ages

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and I guess the thing that made it work must be either "harm" or "nodead" because everything else was just the normal macro i used

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Thanks a lot Paedre!

cerulean spear
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can any1 here explain to me what spellblock blocks and what it doesnt?

jagged pier
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So spell block

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Basically means u can reduce magic attacks like u block melee attacks

sick sentinel
edgy belfry
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have you ever had titanic throw pulling the whole room? even the pack that was far beyond the range? i liked the talent a lot until it literally threw 5 projectiles at the same time and pulled packs in every single corner of the room lol

cerulean spear
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so magic DR?

sick sentinel
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like yogi trolling

cerulean spear
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@jagged pier

jagged pier
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And u can just use IP

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And sw or an externals

sick sentinel
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so spell block means shield block for spells without critical block basically?

jagged pier
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But spell block in some packs really does help

sick sentinel
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have to point at the target and all

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i never use spell block either

cerulean spear
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so lets say im walking in fire i turn on SB

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i block those ticks

brisk gust
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Only me that feels the AA tree boss on 16+ is annoying asf?

jagged pier
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Umm depends not everything is blockable like i doubt fire is as its an aoe on the ground

sick sentinel
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no, it has to be a spell cast at you like a fireball

cerulean spear
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ok

jagged pier
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There is a sheet in the pins showing what is and isnt spell blockable

cerulean spear
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i thought that was for spellreflect

sick sentinel
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could also be a curse, but the distingushing factor is it has to be aimed at you

cerulean spear
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only

mellow quartz
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Spell block does nothing for aoe effects and dots etc

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Has to be a targeted spells

cerulean spear
#

what bout 3rd boss Jade serpent what do they use it for there

lusty tiger
#

I though spell block works on dots, like Paladin spell block

jagged pier
#

No theres blockable on there as well

sick sentinel
#

you may be able to spell block an ability cleave that has a magical damage factor added to it

mellow quartz
sick sentinel
#

that hits another target first, possibly, unsure

mellow quartz
#

The dot in the jade phase ticks for a lot

cerulean spear
#

does ignore pain eat through healing absorbs?

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on jade serpent

mellow quartz
#

Spell block works wonders on 2nd boss in TJS

sick sentinel
#

you would spell block the first hit, and then wall or IP or other spell DR the dot

fallen pulsar
#

For nokhud storm boss, whats the best way to maximize the reflect damage? Just do it on cooldown to catch a cast or wait for energy surges

mellow quartz
cerulean spear
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@fallen pulsar yes but dont get greedy coz if u stay out too long he hits u with x2 pretty quick

mellow quartz
#

Just use spell block and SR

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Use wall on its own

lusty tiger
#

^

fallen pulsar
#

Thanks!

lusty tiger
#

For sure helped a ton doing that

cerulean spear
#

im sually getting 3 rounds @mellow quartz

lusty tiger
#

On the serpent kick boss

cerulean spear
#

should i talent 2 shield wall charges

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nd be immortal

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on that boss

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coz iv lost some keys to this bs

sick sentinel
#

that talent is dead sadly

jagged pier
cerulean spear
#

@jagged pier validating my bro strats

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ahahahaha

stoic elm
#

what should i get crafted among these?

mellow quartz
jagged pier
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Bare in mind i dont run it in TJS but u can

cerulean spear
#

its the brain dead way of dealing with it

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but lets say i dont get it. and i get 3 rounds of that green shit

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how would u handle each round

mellow quartz
#

Like I just said

cerulean spear
#

wall again

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seems tight

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no?

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oh double wall talent

mellow quartz
#

If you run double wall then no

cerulean spear
#

ye ye

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i mean if u dont take it

mellow quartz
#

Most things in keys you want wall for specific abilities or specific pulls

stoic elm
mellow quartz
#

Double wall is usually better for those

cerulean spear
#

neck is super good im 30% haste coz of it

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shield is meh people say its good damage its not amazing

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nd not enough blacksmiths specializing in this shield cant find a recrafter

sick sentinel
#

itf stacks 5

stoic elm
#

so neck ftw?

cerulean spear
#

neck FTW giga

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OP

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@sick sentinel im jealous im stuck with alot mor mastery and less versa

sick sentinel
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first one was troll i had one 2 hand weapon instead of shield 1h

cerulean spear
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i like vers for the damage

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and i got leech procs on everything im so happy

sick sentinel
#

mastery isn't bad

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it improves everything we like

muted spoke
#

best item I could craft me as a 340 ilv is a shield?

mellow quartz
cerulean spear
#

really?

strong forum
#

lol

cerulean spear
#

i didnt know mastery gave damage

mellow quartz
#

Mastery gives attack power

cerulean spear
#

im so dumb

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llooool

mellow quartz
#

Try simming full mastery vs full crit gems and enchants. It’s almost the same.

sick sentinel
#

crafted basic shields i think highest ilvl is 340 ish

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mastery is good for just about every spec when you have enough of it, usually gives 2 effects

stoic elm
edgy grail
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Shield/weap

stoic elm
#

ohk cool

inland mesa
#

I can make 418 shields, then got mythic eranog shield and never made myself one

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I spent on lariat, and will have 2 now. Debating on helm or belt. Belt would be better if I ever got fire dps ring out of cache as everyone and their mom wants it.

Then I'm thinking maybe gloves with 3rd spark for flavor pocket and 418 as raid off set for tier caps at 415 gloves?

wintry jetty
arctic carbon
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I’ve untalented double wall and I’m running battle scared veteran and it’s been performing extremely well

inland mesa
#

I keep spending points where I think I'm going to craft next....only to get an item and be like nah

cerulean spear
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chewtoy make one for me

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what server you on chewtoy

wintry jetty
#

I even spent on tools 😂

inland mesa
#

Like I was dumping points into helm so I could make max infurious helm

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And now I'm like....but maybe I go belt?

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My shield craft I think is either guarantee 418 with everything or it's at like 80% with 34% inspiration

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Chewtoy-Area 52 if you're work ordering it

sturdy sable
#

Belt neck

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Some ppl call those chokers

wintry jetty
#

ring is in my vault, might go belt 😬

inland mesa
#

I think I'm leaning belt neck gloves

sturdy sable
#

Oooooooo

inland mesa
#

Ring would solidify it

sturdy sable
cerulean spear
#

415 TIERSET CHEST IN MY VAULT FOR CHRISTMASS

wintry jetty
#

merry tier chest

sturdy sable
#

I mean either way its a W lol

wintry jetty
#

fire damage ring

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absorb

hard timber
#

Merry Christmas and happy thunder clapping

#

May you get amazing loot today

inland mesa
#

If anyone is sending me crafts for shields I do whatever you feel is fair it's been 5k to 50k it's whatever I click a button. if I'm not guarantee yet, it's free recraft

I'm with family for Christmas atm, but I'll be on tonight

cerulean spear
#

what server you on chewtoy

inland mesa
#

Area 52

cerulean spear
#

EU or US

inland mesa
#

Opening presents so I can't get up and craft atm, US

cerulean spear
#

boooooo

inland mesa
#

😦

cerulean spear
#

im stuck w a 384 shield for weeks ok

#

im on a dead server

inland mesa
#

You can cross realm order can't you. But I'm assuming not cross region

wintry jetty
#

spam azur vault, I heard dps know how to avoid avoidable damage for Christmas

cerulean spear
#

and i dont even think crossfaction orders work

arctic carbon
#

Is there a spreadsheet or any info on the spell reflects for S1 mythic+?

inland mesa
#

"The frontal hit me" if only we had stops or I dunno stunned it

fallow osprey
#

there is, in the pins

arctic carbon
#

Thanks

stoic elm
#

how much would it cost to get lariat neck crafted in eu any one got any idea?

cerulean spear
#

60k

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i have a name for u if u want

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to try

lusty narwhal
#

60k jesus what are eu prices like

inland mesa
#

If you are US buffsubrogue-area 52 guarantee 418 and does it for whatever you list it for

lusty narwhal
#

i did mine for 15k

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with a tier 2 diamond

fading tide
#

I did a +11 academy and we one shotted the tree boss but then wiped 6 times on the arcane boss. What needs to be done from a tank standpoint on this boss?

lusty narwhal
#

nothing really you can do unless your the one dying

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use your hp shout when their hp is sketchy

cerulean spear
#

yup u literally do nothing

#

but good dps

inland mesa
#

Eat more orbs, don't point frontal at them

lusty narwhal
#

spell reflect for dmg reduction on yourself

#

but even thats not needed

jolly granite
#

You cannot put a general price tag on. It simply depends on how many people got he pattern…

stoic elm
#

tbh i just spam my keyboard and i reach till 12s

lusty narwhal
#

yea thats my question

#

does noone on eu have pattern

#

lol

cerulean spear
#

@stoic elm I SPAMMED my kb till 16

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now im having to learn

#

my rotation

stoic elm
#

kb?

cerulean spear
#

im in front of a dummy

stoic elm
#

ah nvm

inland mesa
#

18 tree is no joke D:

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Bricked our key

cerulean spear
#

i got an 18 Shadowmoon for christmass

#

gonna open it tomorrow

inland mesa
#

We keep getting ruby 18 and 19s

#

We were going to time 18 jade and healer dc before last boss 😕

loud patrol
#

i keep getting nokhud in any number ;_;

sick sentinel
#

u running that not gud dungeon?

loud patrol
#

yeah

inland mesa
#

We get nothing but ruby, Vault, hov, jade

cerulean spear
#

same u have to demote them nd do them

loud patrol
#

my highest jade is a +2 lmao

inland mesa
#

Have had 1 smbg this entire week and have done like 20 keys

cerulean spear
#

i did that was able to get COS 16-18

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did it 5 times to get a good one

inland mesa
#

Don't think I'm going to get to 2400 this week with holiday 😦

cerulean spear
#

im 2k

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pushing 2.2k

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for holiday season

inland mesa
#

I'm around 2250 or so

cerulean spear
#

startin to play with good players

#

feels amazin

loud patrol
sick sentinel
#

when is coming the part of the game that we are supposed to be able to do some conduit like stuff with 5 different color of dragon, some reason i thought this was a bigger thing than it is if its in game already.

mellow quartz
toxic pewter
#

me good player

reef haven
#

How should I handle the Blazebinder's Hoof trinket? Kinda hard to sync with other cds

charred egret
#

guys what do you do to stay alive on 3rd boss on jade temple

#

jade serpent strike is killing me if fight stays longer than i planned

tawny kiln
#

run out of it

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I think

#

or is tht the one that gets dispelled

bold turret
#

The healing absorb debuff?

charred egret
#

it hits you leaves a debuff

#

and it gives you also healing absorb

bold turret
#

I hit victory rush every other to take a chunk into the absorb

#

Believe it counts as magic damage so SR is a DR for it

proven dust
#

do you stance dance? or allways in def stance or allways in battle stance?

bold turret
#

I also use LS and SW on this phase as there’s nothing else scary on the fight

#

I go defensive before the hit comes in and stay in it as you have to run out of the circle anyway might as well stay in it when not doing any damage

#

Generally play battle stance for the fight but only done it on a 18 this week

#

You can also HS and pot to remove the debuff

craggy pilot
jagged pier
#

i mean jade serpent boss is d stance in high tyranical for sure

inland mesa
#

That 2nd boss is pretty brutal even with well managed stacks

placid night
#

Hi guys

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One Of My Friend Give Me This channel

#

for Prot Warior I Ply Prot

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Now I Want Craft My One item And Really dont know Craft What With Spark

#

Can Some One Guid ME ?

#

i Want Craft Sheild Or Neck Or Legt

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One Of Those

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But Really Need Guiding Froum good warior Prot Plyer

jagged pier
placid night
#

I Cant find Anything

#

Can u Just Guid Me

#

I Use What Bro ?

#

Neck - Leg - Or sheild

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On of those For Craft

#

Sry Im Little New In Game

#

I know How Ply the best For Warior

#

but when i Want fixe My Build ,,,

#

Ahhh My Socks

strong forum
#

most people have crafted shield

#

to get an early high ilvl one

placid night
#

Yeah True

toxic pewter
#

prob best avoid leg since thats a tier slot

strong forum
#

dont craft legs

#

those are a huge bait

placid night
#

Ohhh

#

u Know Bro

#

My Leg Is My Build Is 342

neat lantern
#

Question regarding trinkets as a prot warrior primarily m+ running
I have a 389 primal ritual shell which i currently have set to earth and a Decoration of Flame. I Also got [Pipspark's Prestigious Pendant of Protection] which combo would u recommend for tanking

placid night
#

i Really Cant Drop My Lef

vocal nimbus
#

you will have spark for two pieces this reset

placid night
#

So I Craft

#

I only have

#

1x Spark

#

sadly

toxic pewter
#

i notice a lot of people using the lariat necklace i got one myself its pretty good

placid night
#

And Dont Know How I Can farm That

placid night
strong forum
#

shield

placid night
#

BEcuse My Shield Is Drop In First Boss

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And Neck Crafted Have 3x Gem Spot

#

But Thanks I Craft Sheild 100 %

toxic pewter
#

yah but has the shield actually dropped for you yet

placid night
#

I Really Happy Fopr Find HEre Guys

#

thanks For guid Me

#

I Hope All plyer Here Have A Good Vibe Froum A Game

#

God Blessing

#

placid night
placid night
toxic pewter
#

i saw shield drop but holy paladin won it over me 😮

proven depot
#

whats the stances macro?

toxic pewter
#

I think its in the pins iirc

placid night
#

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance

proven depot
#

ty

#

does my rage generation increase when im in battle stance?

pallid quiver
#

This is an entirely unrelated scenario, why do you ask?

pallid quiver
proven depot
#

cool thanx 1 more thing i want to see unit frames health and energy number mainly for kurog grimtotem to know when to move him

#

and is genshii WA for spell reflect still relevant in DF?

gloomy turret
#

Hmm that's prob a good idea for my next spark with an infusion.

#

A shield

#

Have lariat already

severe hatch
#

My route is shield > lariat > belt (with Tuesday's spark). Feeling pretty good about that

#

Then engi bracers for my 4th

wild nova
#

Do you guys run spell blocking in highish (15+) ruby life pools?

slim dove
#

no

#

but i cheat 2nd boss as dark iron / prevoker so

woven trellis
#

how good it the embelishment helm for m+

inland mesa
wild nova
#

It was more that I tried doing one early this week, and first boss just chunked, so wondered if it was better to spell block

inland mesa
#

I think I'm leaning lariat - belt - gloves with pocket

wild nova
#

Engineering bracers don't count as embellishment

inland mesa
#

Are you sure? Thought someone last week said they did

wild nova
#

Having engineering as my profession and having wasted my sparks on it, I'm like 90% sure

ebon elk
#

What faction if any has 389 shields you can buy ?

jagged pier
#

none

ebon elk
#

lame

teal axle
#

if im low geared do i want to run with Bolster build or Battering ram build for M+

placid night
#

Hi Agian

#

Guys Sry For Agian Takj eMassage

#

I Buy What Embellishment

tropic tangle
placid night
#

On My Shield Craft?

placid night
#

can Guid ME Guys ?

zealous willow
#

is there any list for best consumables for m+ ?

inland mesa
placid night
#

Yeah

#

guys armor Spike Is What To DO ?

#

When i Put That In My SHeild

#

After that I Have What Option

#

?

strong forum
#

it just does a bit of dmg

#

1% on average

placid night
#

Ohh That's Nice

#

For Sheild 392 I Can Put Rank spike

#

?

#

And One FAQ More

#

How I Can Get Spark

#

?

#

I Mean Spark For Craft Item

mortal brook
#

East valdraaken quest, engine of innovation

placid night
#

I Get 1x Froum thenm

#

I Can Get MORE?

frozen elbow
#

i have a ruby whelp shell, raid horn, and primal ritual shell

#

do i actually want to be using ruby whelp?

stable valve
gloomy turret
#

Guess they don't need the defensive and looking for cc

#

The 30sec CD on Shockwave build is pretty op

karmic plinth
#

high rio players do not always play most optimal builds

sick sentinel
#

i think raider io site is down

jagged pier
stable valve
jagged pier
#

We think

strong forum
#

they just see big number on details

#

its not a good build

jagged pier
#

And the higher u go the more cordinated your stuns need to be so using it on cd for damage is even more dumb therefore making the build even more dumb to use

sturdy sable
#

What? You dont like tying some or your damage to one of your main aoe stops?

#

Blasphemy

strong forum
stable valve
jagged pier
#

Ye

azure quail
#

is bolster worth taking instead of something else or is it not needed with shield charge ?

strong forum
#

because 99% of people dont know that during avatar, shockwave also does 50% extra dmg

jagged pier
#

^^

strong forum
#

so they just desync their shockwaves from avatar and miss out on thunderous roar dmg

strong forum
stable valve
#

Yeah dragon roar better sustain for those higher keys when stuff lives

jagged pier
#

Like thunderous has a lot of hidden damage that doesnt show

#

But shockwave shows

#

And as its an easier build to play ppl sadly generally do more damage with it through playing incorrectly

strong forum
#

idk

#

i dont think theyre pulling good numbers

#

not that ive seen em

jagged pier
#

Well thats what i mean

strong forum
#

but i would assume that their dmg, especially single target, is whack

stable valve
#

Like I said a while back, I think shockwave build is better for low content that you out gear to burst it down down when mobs don’t like for that many ticks

strong forum
#

yeah

jagged pier
#

They pullling bad numbers with TR and they get shockwave and oh i do more damage must be better

mellow quartz
#

Bolster and ITF is still a bit more damage than HR and the added haste feels better. You just need a high haste base to not have SB gabs.

stable valve
#

But no punish and longer dragon roar seems inty for high tyrannical. That’s a lot of SS dmg you’re losing

Was odd whenever I was looking

mellow quartz
jagged pier
stable valve
woven trellis
#

382 neck haste versatility vs 392 haste main mastery, what do you use

stable valve
#

Also, I really want to like titanic throw. That 3s CD fees so bad for anytime I get out of melee and have nothing to spam

stable valve
#

But most likely the 392

jagged pier
#

The answer is, we see a lot of 'high io warriors' doing like 20k dps on streams, and so they arent seeing the benefit from TR. When they swap to shockwave built they see the damage on the meters and probably their damage increase even tho they are holding stun and not sending on cd

#

Hopefully thats a good sum up of that

stable valve
jagged pier
#

Yes

stable valve
#

Nature sure is beautiful lol

sterile bough
#

what kind of embalisments we play on prot?

jagged pier
#

I mean for most of SLs the rank 1 pro could get over 70% blocked hits

#

So this wouldnt be the first time we have monke brain

sterile bough
#

armor spikes and fang adorments?

fading tide
#

For the arcane boss in academy I just grab atleast 3 orbs and run away at 100 energy?

night galleon
#

how the fuck are you supposed to survive overrgon anceint

stable valve
night galleon
#

its a poison though

stable valve
#

Some classes can dispel poisons

jolly granite
#

Nearly all healer 😉

night galleon
#

ok so is the healer just bad if im taking 360k damage per tick

stable valve
#

Highest I’ve done is a 14 tyr for that place though, but all I had was my evokers 1 min cd and my 2 min dwarf racial and was fine for it

#

Then also using the medium trees dispel when it dies

jolly granite
#

Watched the stream of the prot war your all talking about and he said he uses shock wave talents for mob control

#

Saw them doing some keys the play the routes pretty clean

round kelp
#

Quick Question guys is there a cheat sheet of things we can use Spell Reflect on? Like nokhud the elemental + last or the dragon strike in azur vault

stable valve
#

With also everything that is (spell) blockable as well

round kelp
crisp belfry
#

hey , i was wondering which one to use -> defensive stance and battle stance and in which conditions

loud patrol
#

yo guys lets talk bout lore

sturdy sable
#

Did you know before deathwing was the aspect of death he wasnt

loud patrol
#

why tf does Aethas has to make "peace talk" with a genocidal bitch as Jaina?

#

just burn the bitch

#

she deserves it

sturdy sable
#

This just in ally are the bad guys

#

More news at 11

loud patrol
#

lmao true

strong forum
#

kinda silly

#

you wont need shockwave every 25seconds

loud patrol
#

is just the "oh yeah im gonna find this music box and give it to her :D" i hope he get is and burns ist at the same time he burn borealus like teldrassil

strong forum
#

d-stance for big dmg intake

#

i personally have never sat in d-stance for longer than 10 seconds at a time

jagged pier
#

Broodkeeper hc last week made go into d stance

#

:madge:

crisp belfry
#

in 18+ keys i guess u ll need d-stance always up

jagged pier
#

Didnt this week tho

chilly brook
strong forum
#

thats 🧢

strong forum
#

especially this current week

crisp belfry
#

Prevention is better than cure

#

XD

tacit haven
#

last boss Azure vaults, does dragon strike damage ramp as the fight goes on?

strong forum
#

dont think so

slim dove
#

tank dam is non-existent otherwise

#

now, dum dum dps standing in mechs and dying instantly? diff problem.

loud patrol
#

yesterday i had some people asking why i moved the boss so much

#

and i told em to touch the balls to see why

#

they did keks

pallid quiver
#

Healer balls hurt yo

#

ignore pain why you do this to me

loud patrol
#

true

full venture
#

That last azure vault boss sucks ass

#

The bubbles melt you

loud patrol
#

IP shouldnt go to tanks

#

let it be a healer mechanic they are already in hell it will be no difference

ancient lantern
#

what gems are you guys using on your lariat?

slim dove
#

haste/crit x2

weary python
#

I've been pugging heroic due to the holidays and I'm finding I'm ripping threat from the other tank on Terros pretty routinely.

jagged pier
#

welcome to being a warrior

weary python
#

3rd beam comes out and it's like oh I'm tanking this one too, neat.

limpid anchor
#

Nah that’s on shit tanks

weary python
#

Is that my fault or the other tank or what?

stable valve
slim dove
#

or actually press some buttons better and do dam

limpid anchor
#

If they would play correct you wouldn’t rip aggro

#

It’s less the class and more the player ( and ilvl to a certain degree)

stable valve
limpid anchor
#

But don’t turn down your dps

lone eagle
#

Swapping off bear to pwar that I've had ready

#

Little worried about thraet

limpid anchor
#

Tell the other one to press buttons

loud patrol
#

man i parse 60-70s but i know my dps is trash compared to the rest of the people here and idk how to read logs to see what im doing wrong

stable valve
#

100%. Don’t play worse because someone else is

lone eagle
#

already ripping threat on my bear from my VDH cotank as I'm blasting rank 1-5 parses on every fight

limpid anchor
lone eagle
#

I can play pwar just about as well although have some rust to shake off

slim dove
#

the 6 pack pull before terros is my flex zone

loud patrol
stable valve
lone eagle
#

Pure bear

#

Weaving is dead

stable valve
#

Sadge

slim dove
#

blast all cds, use boon, spike 250k aoe

stable valve
#

Cat weaving was fun in nathria

lone eagle
#

First few weeks (I'm Mungbaldo)

limpid anchor
lone eagle
stable valve
lone eagle
#

Was doing it before grief torch but

#

Grief torch extra cheating for sure

#

I fucked up on M Council and only got rank 3 by 2k dps 😢

#

Missed a grief torch reset and missed 2nd pot

stable valve
#

Grief torch is the best thing on prog as a tank though

lone eagle
#

I had to start helping raid lead that fight

#

Hurt my DPS for sure

oak ivy
#

Is it ever worth ww'ing

strong forum
#

no

oak ivy
#

figured, wanted to confirm

lone eagle
#

My cotank gets a 1 week grace period on threat before this pwar is hypergeared lmao

stable valve
lone eagle
#

at 390 atm with dogwater weapon and shield

stable valve
lone eagle
#

The .5 patch kind of remains to be seen and Pwar is just very far ahead right now

#

I'm also feeling the magic damage in some of these keys on bear but not on my pwar

#

Makes me worried about Thundering Hero on bear being more effort than I'm willing to put forth

rugged mural
#

Pugging keys and finding that I can +2 M10s pretty easily, but many M12/13s have bosses that are just hard walls. You guys seeing the same?

lone eagle
#

The .5 patch does look good on the surface but it effectively forces bear to split builds and might make us slightly worse into things we're already not great at

#

Cotank also a VDH

#

So I feel like Pwar/VDH will be better on Mythic Broodkeeper than Bear VDH

limpid anchor
#

But dungeon logs are kinda iffy

loud patrol
tulip egret
#

I'm just learning to tank, is there a cheat sheet of spell reflects maybe? or do I just have to learn what is with a weakaura. Also what about spell blocking, like if I use it on First Boss in Ruby Life Pools am I just blocking everything from her for 20 seconds?

limpid anchor
sleek spindle
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how do you beat overgrown tree in mythic

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unless its just the dps who stink at taking the little shits down

rugged mural
sleek spindle
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whats the green puddle do btw?

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i know to stand in it

slim dove
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heal, cleanse

rugged mural
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Cleanses the DoT and heals you

sleek spindle
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usually its the getto toxins that kill me

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guess its just everyone knowing mechanics and stacking and getting in the circle for the heal

tulip egret
sleek spindle
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thanks for the info

silent anchor
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what is bsv?

mental owl
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Is elemental a must craft? i have a pretty decent neck and i could do with a new weapon, am i gimping myself?

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elemental lariat that is

obsidian path
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It's a good and safe option

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Doesn't take a tier slot, is broad enough to be used on other specs

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And is good

mental owl
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fair enough! i have 2 sparks anyway but just wanted to see what to spend resources on first

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cheers

frosty mango
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Wouldn't weapon/shield be best bang for buck crafts for prot if you can do m+16s?

lusty grotto
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they are good options

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a lot of us did go shield

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early on

edgy grail
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And then looted one 🫠

lusty grotto
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well i havent so shield was a good investment

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especially with infusions

wanton shale
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@sleek spindle I tried a different tree strat cuz the timing of the ancient branch dying and germinate doesn't always line up with a fixed lust time

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we ignored the big add and only kicked it, and full swap bursted it down right after a germinate

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so that it was guaranteed we would have access to the cleanse circle without a bunch of shit in it

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depending on how dps is spread sometimes when you just lust at a fixed time like 2nd adds bunch, 2nd branch, etc, if something makes it line up poorly with germinate you can get screwed, so i think the key is just not having cleanse circle and germinate at almost same time, however you want to accomplish that

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I also just did it as Fury in another group (just a +12 so may not apply if ur one of these nuts doing +20s), after the 2nd little adds pack I blew all my burst with TR + Odyns on the small adds and did leap away from group and taunted the branch to kill him away from everything and that made it super easy for the group

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but it requires someone else in the group actually doing something to help you as tank lol

rotund crescent
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why is m+ all prot warrior? dps?

edgy grail
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Prot is the best tank

steady steppe
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cause someone says its S tier so everyone starts playing it

edgy grail
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Fury is also good but loses value if you have prot

sick sentinel
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spent some more valor upgrading shoulder piecse, have 395 1/4

edgy grail
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Everything is blockable

sick sentinel
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is this just you cick and and it happens, or you have to complete the puzzle your self

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some minigame shit happens, incase i get it

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im more interested in a passive trinket though

wanton shale
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the puzzle box is like a 2 sec cast buff, i love it

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was annoying at first not being instant but i love the manual trigger huge mastery boost

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takes some time getting used to standing still like ur casting a frost bolt right before ur burst lol

sick sentinel
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3000 mastery for 20 seconds sounds really nice

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3min cd wtf

wanton shale
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yea it's pretty badass for prot and fury, and knowing exactly when you want it is great

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its long CD but the effect i believe is bigger than any other on use trinket in game

jagged pier
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Combernation of a few things, but lets start by saying all the tanks survibility wiseare actually very well balanced, some are even broken in some sense like druid healing through wildfire i believe it is. But for prot specifically, they wanted nake tanks easier to play and strong so more ppl would play them. So they gave prot a very good very fun playstyle as well as buffing block on its own and through talents etc. So they buffed our best mitigation tool. And because they made it easier to play u can keep block up pretty much 100% of the time. Which usually used to be impossible or very hard to do in previous expansion espeically at the start. Now what they have also done is make mpre things like bosses in raid do blockable phyiscal damage and tank busters which previously also they didnt tend to do as much. In top of this in m+ they wanted to make it easier on tanks so instead of mobs casting all the time at the tank the casts are spread among the group meaning a bigger portion of damage taken is not pyhsical blockable damage. And as they made that easier for us to do it just makes us naturally.
Also because of all this we can sit in b stance and do a lot more damage than we are supposed too, if we are in d stance like we are supposed to be we woyld be close to druid in damage.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk

sick sentinel
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what kind of keys should i be at 382 ilvl equipp

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10?

last mason
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fang adornments or spikes? is the difference really marginal?

wanton shale
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10 is a reasonable key to pug at 382, still challenging but good risk to reward

last mason
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and whats the dif between the ranks

wanton shale
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there's an overabundance of dps queueing like usual so even though you can get groups as tank at 382, most 10s can easily get closer to 390 dps cuz they can be picky with 100 dps queueing up lol

loud patrol
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so we get the luxury of often being the lowest ilvl in pugs with overgeared dps

loud patrol
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and i could be doinng +18 or 19

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so prob you can go to +15

sick sentinel
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i signed for 6 hov today, got kicked in a minute

loud patrol
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lol

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i wasnt accepted in a 13 hov today

sick sentinel
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figure i'll learn on low keys

wanton shale
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if you had ur own group you could, but no pug is taking a 382 into a +15

tawny kiln
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I've done some 10s at 375 or so, but I have a static

loud patrol
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you dont need to be 400 ilvl for a 15

sick sentinel
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more illv more stam, survive longer, beat keystone

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pug logic

loud patrol
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yeah is not wrong but a 380 can easly time a 15

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depending on the dps ofc

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and if you healer is not using the chrismas turkey as a helm

last mason
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is there a way someone can scam me while im trying to make a spark weapon

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i dont understand the crafting system very well

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and i just wanna make sure i dont miss something

jagged pier
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U make an order theres no way for them to scam u

compact portal
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people will definitely join ur key even if ur like 380 something