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i did2 ksm last expansion and ksm bfa
all pug, never a premade
quit from mid panda till bfa
gz
im not a great gigachad gamer, but am gamer
if i was younger and healthier i could be running +20s or at least 15s right now
honestly it's a work of art at this point
could have ran 23 24 maybe on wo, dunno dont wanna say that for sure
like in sl run 22 to 24
sorry guys i lied i dont use shield wall on CD which i never actually said to do i said use as needed, but still need less healing the more than half the dps maybe if i did i would need less healing that all the dps :Sadge:
maybe i could have mitigated a tiny bit more

how do you have dps taking more dps than a bdk weirdge
https://youtu.be/fTzNWnqwTtE "maybe prot was right, i was the stooge, the bad joke everybody got but me."
because i mitigated 85% of the damage
second screen shot
its raz
with more dtps than the bdk
tones of aoe damage
i mean i guess
you are actively trying to kill your raid in p3 tho
cool
we werent dying to that
but okay
where all the dps deaths to that
find it in the log please
or did we run out of room
also
im subbed ril end of fucking feburary, ao i just dont play what i paid for.... (looks to steam library..)
trapped here in hell with the rest of you guya
healers can dps more if theyre not locked into healing double/triple the damage output from stuff
also big doubt on running out of space
well u havent found anydeaths to me 'not mitigating the beam'
and ppl were alive until the room ran out of space
its obviously not a direct death, but sending everyone low into a grip combo
will kill them
and im aaware the healers can dps almost like theres cds running we at certain points to cover damage
im telling no one went low
big cope
well u posted a screenshot without timing which one
could have been a last one where i was like the only one alive
🤷
cool still dont know which pull or attempt
or thunderous breath
but okay
cool your guild is better than ours didnt dispute that
idk your latest low pull
i didn't mean "ran like a 9 last week, beat that" as in i did that you cant beat that! i mean, like, i beat the key lmao
sorry
your healers had no time to catch up on healing
so the pull where we had 4 dead going into last phase
cool
no wonder we didnt kill it as fast as u with 4 dps dead before final phase
on the vaults key, i aparently "pulled the boss without the healer"
yeah, so not only i gotta learn DF dungeons, but some legion and wod ones, kinda know ToJS thankfully
really killed the raid there as u can see by my debuff has just exploded thats the health of the raid
really killed the raid there
omg
didnt even use the cds assigned as timers were out on note and that healer was dead for the entire phase
but yer really big trouble for the raid there
my apologizes
even tho as u can also see
SW is on CD because i used it on the beam
👍
honest question, not trolling: can't you just step to the side and not get hit by the beam?
that's what we were doing
it was on normal tho
not the one in final phase
ah ok
Unrelated but which weakaura set do you use jakey
its not WAs
On the center of your screenshot? 😮
yer thats TMW
Ooo gotcha
Tmw is literally WA for dummies i feel like
You make an icon and say ”i want to do this” and then just click the options you want
weak aura is simpler and more widely used overall, like the android smart phone
peps vs coke, mcdonalds vs burger king, walmart vs k mart, recount vs details, dbm vs little wigs/big wigs
same damn shit, the other format, shit, i can even remember when weak auras... was called.. power auras!
Left out skada sadge
skada is how you say.... skuffed imo
also just for context as i keep saying its important, from the screenshot that was linked, this is what the raid looked like when i was about to take that last thunderous blast
yer really killed ppl with not mitigating it. almost like ppl died to having stacks from the floor overtime like i said in the first place
i would prefer, something baseline in the game not an addon, its like, the game is watching how you are running your keystone, or raid, or world boss and it doesn't tell you your dps or nothing, but it gives you a report card after you kill the world boss or finish the m+, you died 10 seconds in and spread the bufff? D- F rank, you took no dmg and contributed most dps, did dispels, you get an A- B+
the 3 healers as u can see had 10, 7, 8 repectively because we havent practiced the overlapping mechanics so died to those
totally meaningless score, but it gives you an idea if you did shit or not
Idk why you are even trying to debate w/ them Jakey. Thanks for sharing the logs though, that’s useful!
because calling ppl out without proper information and posting stuff without context to prove a point makes no sense just so they can win an argument
at least i have the recordings so i actually know what happened
which is why u should also record your play
👍
okay
i mean the logs and the recording state otherwise but u believe what u do
and continue to believe IO is a ST dps increase
Its just like driving now lol
Better record yourself

How is everyone keeping up Shield block 100% with the cooldown? Using shield charge in cd as well?
well its talents and proper play that give u too it
u need 3 block talents out of HR ED Bolster and Bulwark to have 100% uptime
So at what ilvl ring should I consider replacing my Cobalt Assembly ring?
With the extra duration, heavy repurcussion, and shield charge u can have it 100% by just using SS
Since SS resets so often
my fury friend finally gets a shield from azure vault 15 we did
he cant trade
im not mad
Why not craft shield 🤔
i wasted m spark week 1
i crafted weapon week 3
didnt think ahead, my fault
i thought it would just drop eventually but fucking blizzard ofc not
I mean it will, just after the first 5
wondering what trinkets are BiS for Tank warriors in m+?
all totem if you can get it and duno
probably ruby if you are doing raid for alltotem
good if you can get it
dunno, im not very good at the game, but i do know the totem trinket is good for us seen lots of discussion about it being good
my whole group would need it right?
All raid trinkets are good
Hey everyone
What embellishments do you suggest for a fresh char?
Was thinking shield + lariat or shield+weapon
i wouldnt want to put out fake news and incur the wrath of jakey
yep, and you'd need it to even drop in the first place
Shield + wep is good to secure loot early, since those are usually rare
But otherwise neck or anything else is also good
funny thing ...
has avoidance
i snuck into LFR as fury set my loot to prot, both dropped, won them at 376
the other shield i was equipping is haste crit indestructible 376, so the lfr one isn't even upgrade
just looking for another trinket while i wait for my m+ group to get it
Ruby and Totem got it 😛
would a high one of these be any good compared to the raid trinkets?
its on the better side but it can be MEH if you cant pop it early
cuz it last for 20 seconds, so if you dont get all stacks, you have wait all those 20 seconds
you could easily get it to proc faster with battering ram i bet.
yes, if you use any 2 on use trinkets, either puts the other on a 20s cd, regardless of trinket CD
it can make using both optimally quite akward if you ask me
Just macro it with avatar
With rage use CD reduction talent, you should be able to use it with avatar every other one
Why is sophic devo 400* dps loss over sophic writ? Is it because the compared sword doesn't have fang embellishment in the sim?
is the leg embellishment really that bad as the pinned comment suggests?
%10 haste seems pretty good on pulls where we use our cds
i mean the first 10 seconds when we use our damage cds
Its there some bis items that are 100% needed for prot war?
a shield

LOL
a 1 handed weapon
looks to be that way
str 1 handed weapon, should clarify
Too helpfull sarcastic answers kisses for u guys
no/bad shield = you get flattened like pancake
yer was gunna say dev sims higher for me too
yeah will check the difference without the embellishment
What are you guys going to do with your third spark?
Oh damn, big day for you on reset
I have shield/wep so was thinking the neck
for that dps gain I will be keeping my writ tyvm, still about 80k on my server
huge
so, give me damn 2 handers
ya r3 enchants are a scam
entire expansion feels like a scam, my gold reserves have plummeted
still on 376 1 hand raid finder weapon
do i really need the cobalt assembly ring or i can do good without? just asking cause i see alot use it...and not a fan of grending rep but if its really good i will
What was your two crafted items?
At 390 ilvl it’s about 11.5-13% of my overall healing in M+
so its really a must to have?
shield neck
Also conflicts with an (ideal) tier slot
@stable valve so its really a must to have ?
I'm thinking I will go neck / belt for embellishments as I will want to pick up engi bracers for brez long-term
It's a must have if you want to farm it, if you cba then don't waste your time and sanity
bah if its really good i will farm it. i didnt know that ring was that good
I don’t think you need it prots already rly tanky
I didn't bother with it and I am chilling
Yeah I did a 14 at 360 Ilvl without it so idk
I’d anything you’d probably play the dmg ring right?
If you have to ask if the ring is worth it you probably aren't doing 20s atm where it could be a diffy
takes like 2 hours
Nice. My alt went BS for weaponcrafting for my team.
Holiday stuff this week so was waiting to craft my second. Probs will just do neck and shield next week. The 405 weapon first raid week was very fat though.
You do the normal shield w/ crit/haste?
FML open door, 2 feet of snow
ye full haste/crit
I wish we had any snow :(
The 2nd "bulle arcanique" is the ring from cobalt
this shit carry hard
Wouldn’t say that tbh
9/10 out of ten I’m taking essentially no dmg in 14/15 keys. Just doing it so my dps/healers have more leeway to learn
I’m only losing about 550 dps on sims vs my other rings, so it’s definitely worth the trade off imo.
The dps ring from cobalt is also very strong too though
Hello. I am normally good at maintaining aggro. I also have mouseover for taunt. But I have noticed sometimes someone in my group will attack something before my charge / revenge / thunderclap goes in usually in the process of me charging. Is there a better way for me to deal with getting aggro when this occurs and they force mob to run to them?
Just “farm” it when the world quest or pvp world quest is up
This is about a second of time, so within the same second I am charging and someone is already casting an ability on a mob that we're going to engage.
That ain't a you problem
not my car but
Wouldn’t you take the dps ring and not the def ring tho
we have this much snow
Let them die, they will learn eventually (probably not)
yogivision
That ain’t 2 meters
i leveld in khaz modan in 2005
Is there an ilvl of ring with ideal stats that we'd like to swap cobalt out at?
Yes but it cause issue in my keys. I normally don't deplete at 15/16. How can I address this without the person being offended.
Hey, where can I find the best talents for MM+pls?
i said 2 feet not 2 meters
It make me feel bad because I work hard to build up my key and I get DPS that do this despite them having good rio and allegedly good records.
Just tell the people before the key to give me a second to press clap before you start using the hunt, looking at you mr diamond hunter
Can be nice about it before key starts and just say give me a second for a few globals in a pack before you blast, I don't want you guys to die to aggro
OK I will try this again.
No one can get offended at that :)
Thank you rain
Any advice on how to tank Ele Boss in Nokhud on higher levels? Havin a real hard time getting shredded. Just got told prot dont need any heals im doin something hardly wrong 🙂
If you step out of range from boss use spell reflect
Check the pins
Does anyone know if Brutal Vitality talent is still bugged?
Yea i do that for dmg
If you get out of melee he does a nasty magic tank buster if they’re not currently casting
But you can SR it 😈
The run around pulsing dmg phase?
Yes
During phase you have to find healer that knows to get orbs
Thanks
Building rage for this part to maintain ignore pain
is important becausue it will helpfully mitigate the damage there
I worried im an idiot
And saving a CD there is important too
We fail 18 nok but time 17
But were selective with things
I brought Warlock for cookies mainly
To have additional consumable on 1m
And before start timer we spoke about how we would move on the second boss
I died near end of Phase after all CDs and healer told me i had to stay alive on my own
Do you check how many orbs they have and range check?
Nah
Because sometimes you get healer who run around and dont bother healing much
You have to have some situational awareness there and look at logs and range check yourself.
He Just wrote me healers dont need to heal Warriors there (2,3k Dude there)
Are you sitting in dstance for that phase?
If you cannot trust healer to be in range to you then you be in range to them and force everyone else adjust
Yes
what was key +?
It was only 17 tho
I dont know any warrior who can heal themselves in 17
You are not but also next time you go in
Look at situation
And speak about it before pull on NOK
He was in Range
He was Just blatantly NOT healing me on purpose
This.
I figured i might ask if Theres a way to stay alive on our own
Pugs are wild
The problem is people have inflated ego over getting past 2k rio
Youu will encounter this a lot
True true
Im sitting at 2,4k rn and still think im bad
Doin so much mistakes and shit
Ruby First Boss shredding me too
^
That boss slaps
The SR is funny though, but oof if it’s not up
Frontal from second boss in halls ouchie too
Ikr
I had a healer in my 16 RBL that told me to take bitter immunity so they didn’t have to dispel me that fight 🙂
Huh
Yup
Theres no debuff no?
i assume spell block also works on ruby first boss?
Yes
is primal chill the spelll they cast thats interruptable?
Wrecking throw talent is really nice for that boss too.
And the flame dancers if you don’t bring a purge
how good is battle scarred scale guys
its not considered cause rare loot or quest drop
in the wowhead guide
Theres like 100 scale trinkets link the item or screenshot it please
Taking damage has a low chance to grant you a shield, absorbing 13211 damage for 20 sec, and increasing your Armor by 154 while the shield holds. The shield explodes when broken, dealing 2779 Physical damage split between all nearby enemies.
but its simming lower than my 372 treemouths splinter
this one
also, why is icyveins not even considering whispering incarnate icon while wowhead just straight up says its the better option
That would be a question for mwahi tbh
I think whispering is a good trinket tbf but only for raid
Cant reli on everyone having it in a m+
i mean even if ppl dont have it in m+ its still huge strength + 100% uptim 500 versatility
sounds good to me
.
And its not 100% uptime its when it procs right?
no its 100% uptime
Would the frostfire belt embellishment be bad for sanguine weeks?
I mean i would take greiftorch/whestone and all totem in keys tbh
And only whispering in raid where u get the 3 stats not 1
Is Lariat still a good item to craft or should I just focus on ilvl rather than effects?
Might not even run it then grieftorch and somthing else like whetstone could be very strong
Its a good item but all embleishments kinda are eh, so upto u
I have a 418 one and i dont regret it
But i also have a mythic shield and wep
So crafting them arent a high prio
418 already, how did you made it that high?
I got one from the first boss in mythic on Vault but didn't know they would also drop in keys on +16s lol
I suppose so, even tho my war is an alt, I like to min-max his gear and farm the "bis" on each slot mostly for M+s
what should I drop for disrupting shout? thunderlord?
battering ram gang
I assume this is M+? I would drop Punish
Why would you drop punish
I mean I don't even ruin TaN
And if it is m+ u for sure should be hr not itf
That’s not true if there are 15 sec between pulls
Just gotta chill a bit to avoid gaps
so guys this weeks vault i have 415s from M+ and 389 from raid. if i get 389 tierpiece should i take for 2 set or is ILVL better
You should hope to get a tier piece in your 415 M+ slot problem solved.
👍 good luck!
I mean in like 4 weeks u can cataylst pieces to tier
Remember that if you get a 415 piece in Head, Shoulders, Legs or Gloves then in the long run you can convert it
i only care about whats stronger for week 3 m+ pushing
literally all i care bout
2 set
or 415
Then Sim your shit
You will have to see what gear slot the 415 ends up and how much of an ilvl upgrade it is for that slot and weigh it against 2 set. Can’t really give a blanket answer.
Then ilvl bcs you get another vault for week 3
(and before you say it; yes I know you can't Sim defence, but Tank DPS matters more, you're already tanky enough if you're doing +16s
so yall just simming for dps?
We get a spark next week or? When will we get the next spark after? 2 weeks again? And is there a limit to crafting?
Pretty much.
Like any tank worth their salt, I enjoy shaming DPS whgo can't dop more damage than me
Tough as nails is meh, only good to do more dps, but lacks survivability that Spell Block or Bolster gives you
so let's take useless "2k per block"
if you were to take intervene, what do you usually drop for it?
I take Unnerving Focus and Bolster in Raid, but it's not the play in M+ IMO
same
More dps for over talents that you'll waste? Seems fine
this
TBH, In M+ I spec, gear and play for DPS, and DGAF about defensiveness
Okay thank you. „Preferred“ embellishments are neck + belt or?
Anyone else done with this week of m+? Super boring as prot warr, easy affixes for us but atleast 1 player dying every pack pff
And some bosses still need heavy tuning imo
I only do guild runs, but other than "fuck Azure Vaults", M+ is fine
I don't like any dungeon this week tbh
Guild runs must be much more fun than pugging 😄
1 MILLION percent
If I need a shield asap it would be best to craft the normal one with BiS stats next week + embalish armor spikes then drop embalishemnt when we get a new spark or?
Maybe you guys can help me with this:
I'm trying to have a mouseover heroic throw macro(for pulling mostly) that also just throws at my current target if I don't have a mouseover. This usually works perfectly fine with heals in my Macros but I fail to make it work with Heroic Throw or any other Throw... Any ideas? 😦
#showtooltip Heroic Throw
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Heroic Throw; Heroic Throw
try this?>
one sec
Works like a charm, holy hell I've been trying around for ages
and I guess the thing that made it work must be either "harm" or "nodead" because everything else was just the normal macro i used
Thanks a lot Paedre!
can any1 here explain to me what spellblock blocks and what it doesnt?
So spell block
Basically means u can reduce magic attacks like u block melee attacks
pugging is a fi ne art
have you ever had titanic throw pulling the whole room? even the pack that was far beyond the range? i liked the talent a lot until it literally threw 5 projectiles at the same time and pulled packs in every single corner of the room lol
so magic DR?
like yogi trolling
@jagged pier
Yes but cds and externals do that as well and most not all magic damage doesnt really matter
And u can just use IP
And sw or an externals
so spell block means shield block for spells without critical block basically?
But spell block in some packs really does help
Only me that feels the AA tree boss on 16+ is annoying asf?
Umm depends not everything is blockable like i doubt fire is as its an aoe on the ground
no, it has to be a spell cast at you like a fireball
ok
There is a sheet in the pins showing what is and isnt spell blockable
i thought that was for spellreflect
could also be a curse, but the distingushing factor is it has to be aimed at you
only
what bout 3rd boss Jade serpent what do they use it for there
I though spell block works on dots, like Paladin spell block
No theres blockable on there as well
you may be able to spell block an ability cleave that has a magical damage factor added to it
works on Initial hit not dot
that hits another target first, possibly, unsure
The dot in the jade phase ticks for a lot
Spell block works wonders on 2nd boss in TJS
you would spell block the first hit, and then wall or IP or other spell DR the dot
For nokhud storm boss, whats the best way to maximize the reflect damage? Just do it on cooldown to catch a cast or wait for energy surges
Conductive strike
Don’t overlap wall etc with spell block
@fallen pulsar yes but dont get greedy coz if u stay out too long he hits u with x2 pretty quick
^
Thanks!
For sure helped a ton doing that
im sually getting 3 rounds @mellow quartz
On the serpent kick boss
should i talent 2 shield wall charges
nd be immortal
on that boss
coz iv lost some keys to this bs
that talent is dead sadly
U can its like the only niche case where is viable
what should i get crafted among these?
I always run double wall especially in TJS. Just wall, LS + SR and wall again if you only get 3.
Bare in mind i dont run it in TJS but u can
its the brain dead way of dealing with it
but lets say i dont get it. and i get 3 rounds of that green shit
how would u handle each round
Like I just said
If you run double wall then no
Most things in keys you want wall for specific abilities or specific pulls
any one please?
Double wall is usually better for those
neck is super good im 30% haste coz of it
shield is meh people say its good damage its not amazing
nd not enough blacksmiths specializing in this shield cant find a recrafter
itf stacks 5
so neck ftw?
neck FTW giga
OP
@sick sentinel im jealous im stuck with alot mor mastery and less versa
first one was troll i had one 2 hand weapon instead of shield 1h
Mastery is very good
best item I could craft me as a 340 ilv is a shield?
Both crit and mastery gives damage also 🤷♂️
really?
lol
i didnt know mastery gave damage
Mastery gives attack power
Try simming full mastery vs full crit gems and enchants. It’s almost the same.
find work order stationi think your looking for if u want to use spark
crafted basic shields i think highest ilvl is 340 ish
mastery is good for just about every spec when you have enough of it, usually gives 2 effects
what would be the next best item to get crafted after neck.
Shield/weap
ohk cool
I can make 418 shields, then got mythic eranog shield and never made myself one
I spent on lariat, and will have 2 now. Debating on helm or belt. Belt would be better if I ever got fire dps ring out of cache as everyone and their mom wants it.
Then I'm thinking maybe gloves with 3rd spark for flavor pocket and 418 as raid off set for tier caps at 415 gloves?
in a way I wish crafting will stay the same next expansion, so we'd be less clueless about where to spend points 🫠
I’ve untalented double wall and I’m running battle scared veteran and it’s been performing extremely well
I keep spending points where I think I'm going to craft next....only to get an item and be like nah
I even spent on tools 😂
Like I was dumping points into helm so I could make max infurious helm
And now I'm like....but maybe I go belt?
My shield craft I think is either guarantee 418 with everything or it's at like 80% with 34% inspiration
Chewtoy-Area 52 if you're work ordering it
Im going belt
Belt neck
Some ppl call those chokers
ring is in my vault, might go belt 😬
I think I'm leaning belt neck gloves
Oooooooo
Ring would solidify it
Dps ring or shield ring?
415 TIERSET CHEST IN MY VAULT FOR CHRISTMASS
merry tier chest
I mean either way its a W lol
If anyone is sending me crafts for shields I do whatever you feel is fair it's been 5k to 50k it's whatever I click a button. if I'm not guarantee yet, it's free recraft
I'm with family for Christmas atm, but I'll be on tonight
what server you on chewtoy
Area 52
EU or US
Opening presents so I can't get up and craft atm, US
boooooo
😦
You can cross realm order can't you. But I'm assuming not cross region
spam azur vault, I heard dps know how to avoid avoidable damage for Christmas
and i dont even think crossfaction orders work
Is there a spreadsheet or any info on the spell reflects for S1 mythic+?
"The frontal hit me" if only we had stops or I dunno stunned it
there is, in the pins
Thanks
how much would it cost to get lariat neck crafted in eu any one got any idea?
60k jesus what are eu prices like
If you are US buffsubrogue-area 52 guarantee 418 and does it for whatever you list it for
I did a +11 academy and we one shotted the tree boss but then wiped 6 times on the arcane boss. What needs to be done from a tank standpoint on this boss?
nothing really you can do unless your the one dying
use your hp shout when their hp is sketchy
Eat more orbs, don't point frontal at them
You cannot put a general price tag on. It simply depends on how many people got he pattern…
tbh i just spam my keyboard and i reach till 12s
kb?
im in front of a dummy
ah nvm
We keep getting ruby 18 and 19s
We were going to time 18 jade and healer dc before last boss 😕
i keep getting nokhud in any number ;_;
u running that not gud dungeon?
yeah
We get nothing but ruby, Vault, hov, jade
same u have to demote them nd do them
my highest jade is a +2 lmao
Have had 1 smbg this entire week and have done like 20 keys
Don't think I'm going to get to 2400 this week with holiday 😦
I'm around 2250 or so
get 2k players noted
when is coming the part of the game that we are supposed to be able to do some conduit like stuff with 5 different color of dragon, some reason i thought this was a bigger thing than it is if its in game already.
Ain’t no good players at 2k lol
me good player
How should I handle the Blazebinder's Hoof trinket? Kinda hard to sync with other cds
guys what do you do to stay alive on 3rd boss on jade temple
jade serpent strike is killing me if fight stays longer than i planned
The healing absorb debuff?
I hit victory rush every other to take a chunk into the absorb
Believe it counts as magic damage so SR is a DR for it
do you stance dance? or allways in def stance or allways in battle stance?
I also use LS and SW on this phase as there’s nothing else scary on the fight
I go defensive before the hit comes in and stay in it as you have to run out of the circle anyway might as well stay in it when not doing any damage
Generally play battle stance for the fight but only done it on a 18 this week
You can also HS and pot to remove the debuff
Always bstance, and swap for spicy hits, spicy boss or spicy packs
i mean jade serpent boss is d stance in high tyranical for sure
That 2nd boss is pretty brutal even with well managed stacks
Hi guys
One Of My Friend Give Me This channel
for Prot Warior I Ply Prot
Now I Want Craft My One item And Really dont know Craft What With Spark
Can Some One Guid ME ?
i Want Craft Sheild Or Neck Or Legt
One Of Those
But Really Need Guiding Froum good warior Prot Plyer

I Cant find Anything
Can u Just Guid Me
I Use What Bro ?
Neck - Leg - Or sheild
On of those For Craft
Sry Im Little New In Game
I know How Ply the best For Warior
but when i Want fixe My Build ,,,
Ahhh My Socks
Yeah True
prob best avoid leg since thats a tier slot
Question regarding trinkets as a prot warrior primarily m+ running
I have a 389 primal ritual shell which i currently have set to earth and a Decoration of Flame. I Also got [Pipspark's Prestigious Pendant of Protection] which combo would u recommend for tanking
i Really Cant Drop My Lef
you will have spark for two pieces this reset
i notice a lot of people using the lariat necklace i got one myself its pretty good
And Dont Know How I Can farm That
So U Think I Best Craft My Sheild ? Or Neck
shield
BEcuse My Shield Is Drop In First Boss
And Neck Crafted Have 3x Gem Spot
But Thanks I Craft Sheild 100 %
yah but has the shield actually dropped for you yet
I Really Happy Fopr Find HEre Guys
thanks For guid Me
I Hope All plyer Here Have A Good Vibe Froum A Game
God Blessing
♥
Thanks A Lot
U Right sir
i saw shield drop but holy paladin won it over me 😮
whats the stances macro?
I think its in the pins iirc
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
I think Holy Paladins should be banned from playing wow
This is an entirely unrelated scenario, why do you ask?
No
You just deal more damage
cool thanx 1 more thing i want to see unit frames health and energy number mainly for kurog grimtotem to know when to move him
and is genshii WA for spell reflect still relevant in DF?
Hmm that's prob a good idea for my next spark with an infusion.
A shield
Have lariat already
My route is shield > lariat > belt (with Tuesday's spark). Feeling pretty good about that
Then engi bracers for my 4th
Do you guys run spell blocking in highish (15+) ruby life pools?
how good it the embelishment helm for m+
Engi bracers count as an embellishment don't they? So you can't do lariat, belt, and bracers
It was more that I tried doing one early this week, and first boss just chunked, so wondered if it was better to spell block
I think I'm leaning lariat - belt - gloves with pocket
Engineering bracers don't count as embellishment
Are you sure? Thought someone last week said they did
Having engineering as my profession and having wasted my sparks on it, I'm like 90% sure
What faction if any has 389 shields you can buy ?
none
lame
if im low geared do i want to run with Bolster build or Battering ram build for M+
You can get a 385 by farming elemental storms
On My Shield Craft?
battering ram imo
can Guid ME Guys ?
is there any list for best consumables for m+ ?
Armor spikes if you really want one
Yeah
guys armor Spike Is What To DO ?
When i Put That In My SHeild
After that I Have What Option
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Ohh That's Nice
For Sheild 392 I Can Put Rank spike
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And One FAQ More
How I Can Get Spark
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I Mean Spark For Craft Item
East valdraaken quest, engine of innovation
i have a ruby whelp shell, raid horn, and primal ritual shell
do i actually want to be using ruby whelp?
What’s up with some high io guys running the shockwave bolster build?
Guess they don't need the defensive and looking for cc
The 30sec CD on Shockwave build is pretty op
high rio players do not always play most optimal builds
i think raider io site is down
Big number shows on meter
Yeah, errors for me as well. Went to go copy the builds again to see what all is different
We think
And the higher u go the more cordinated your stuns need to be so using it on cd for damage is even more dumb therefore making the build even more dumb to use
What? You dont like tying some or your damage to one of your main aoe stops?
Blasphemy
its not OP cuz rumbling earth, the cooldown reduction on it, actually lowers your dps
^ yeah. Was mega confused by that.
But y’all just think it’s monkey brain going “big numba big goods”
Ye
is bolster worth taking instead of something else or is it not needed with shield charge ?
because 99% of people dont know that during avatar, shockwave also does 50% extra dmg
^^
so they just desync their shockwaves from avatar and miss out on thunderous roar dmg
bolster is generally not needed
Yeah dragon roar better sustain for those higher keys when stuff lives
Like thunderous has a lot of hidden damage that doesnt show
But shockwave shows
And as its an easier build to play ppl sadly generally do more damage with it through playing incorrectly
Well thats what i mean
but i would assume that their dmg, especially single target, is whack
Like I said a while back, I think shockwave build is better for low content that you out gear to burst it down down when mobs don’t like for that many ticks
yeah
They pullling bad numbers with TR and they get shockwave and oh i do more damage must be better
Bolster and ITF is still a bit more damage than HR and the added haste feels better. You just need a high haste base to not have SB gabs.
But no punish and longer dragon roar seems inty for high tyrannical. That’s a lot of SS dmg you’re losing
Was odd whenever I was looking
People are asking as the no1 pwar on rio runs shockwave talents I guess.
Not just the ss dam the 9-12% dr lose is huge
100% why I was asking. Was really confused by it tbh
382 neck haste versatility vs 392 haste main mastery, what do you use
Also, I really want to like titanic throw. That 3s CD fees so bad for anytime I get out of melee and have nothing to spam
Sim it
But most likely the 392
The answer is, we see a lot of 'high io warriors' doing like 20k dps on streams, and so they arent seeing the benefit from TR. When they swap to shockwave built they see the damage on the meters and probably their damage increase even tho they are holding stun and not sending on cd
Hopefully thats a good sum up of that
So monke brain?
Yes
Nature sure is beautiful lol
what kind of embalisments we play on prot?
I mean for most of SLs the rank 1 pro could get over 70% blocked hits
So this wouldnt be the first time we have monke brain
armor spikes and fang adorments?
For the arcane boss in academy I just grab atleast 3 orbs and run away at 100 energy?
how the fuck are you supposed to survive overrgon anceint
Bring a dispel to help
its a poison though
Some classes can dispel poisons
Nearly all healer 😉
ok so is the healer just bad if im taking 360k damage per tick
Highest I’ve done is a 14 tyr for that place though, but all I had was my evokers 1 min cd and my 2 min dwarf racial and was fine for it
Then also using the medium trees dispel when it dies
Watched the stream of the prot war your all talking about and he said he uses shock wave talents for mob control
Saw them doing some keys the play the routes pretty clean
Quick Question guys is there a cheat sheet of things we can use Spell Reflect on? Like nokhud the elemental + last or the dragon strike in azur vault
It’s in the pins
With also everything that is (spell) blockable as well
TIL
Ohh thanks didnt notice
hey , i was wondering which one to use -> defensive stance and battle stance and in which conditions
yo guys lets talk bout lore
Did you know before deathwing was the aspect of death he wasnt
why tf does Aethas has to make "peace talk" with a genocidal bitch as Jaina?
just burn the bitch
she deserves it
lmao true
if he uses it for mob control, why does he play the 2 extra nodes then
kinda silly
you wont need shockwave every 25seconds
is just the "oh yeah im gonna find this music box and give it to her :D" i hope he get is and burns ist at the same time he burn borealus like teldrassil
b-stance for as long as you can
d-stance for big dmg intake
i personally have never sat in d-stance for longer than 10 seconds at a time
in 18+ keys i guess u ll need d-stance always up
Because Jaina is hot even after the multiple chest nerfs
true tho
especially this current week
last boss Azure vaults, does dragon strike damage ramp as the fight goes on?
dont think so
just for tankbusters, thats it
tank dam is non-existent otherwise
now, dum dum dps standing in mechs and dying instantly? diff problem.
yesterday i had some people asking why i moved the boss so much
and i told em to touch the balls to see why
they did 
true
IP shouldnt go to tanks
let it be a healer mechanic they are already in hell it will be no difference
what gems are you guys using on your lariat?
mainstat/haste
haste/crit x2
I've been pugging heroic due to the holidays and I'm finding I'm ripping threat from the other tank on Terros pretty routinely.
welcome to being a warrior
3rd beam comes out and it's like oh I'm tanking this one too, neat.
Nah that’s on shit tanks
Is that my fault or the other tank or what?
Only with the unstoppable force talent though
other tank can press taunt as line comes out
or actually press some buttons better and do dam
The other tank, when I rip aggro from pug tanks or guild tank, it’s bcs they have a 10-30 parse compared to my 95+
If they would play correct you wouldn’t rip aggro
It’s less the class and more the player ( and ilvl to a certain degree)
Other tank. There’s so much time between beams
Get a nameplate addon that shows you’re losing threat ezpz
But don’t turn down your dps
Tell the other one to press buttons
man i parse 60-70s but i know my dps is trash compared to the rest of the people here and idk how to read logs to see what im doing wrong
100%. Don’t play worse because someone else is
already ripping threat on my bear from my VDH cotank as I'm blasting rank 1-5 parses on every fight
Without looking at your logs, your apm sucks
I can play pwar just about as well although have some rust to shake off

the 6 pack pull before terros is my flex zone
prob lmao but idk how to improve it i use every gcd
What’re you doing to blast? Pure bear or do you weave at all?
Sadge
Cat weaving was fun in nathria
Then link a log, maybe someone takes a look
Blastin. Grief torch is slight cheat but still blastin
Was doing it before grief torch but
Grief torch extra cheating for sure
I fucked up on M Council and only got rank 3 by 2k dps 😢
Missed a grief torch reset and missed 2nd pot
Grief torch is the best thing on prog as a tank though
Is it ever worth ww'ing
no
figured, wanted to confirm
My cotank gets a 1 week grace period on threat before this pwar is hypergeared lmao
But ww is 360°
at 390 atm with dogwater weapon and shield
Why’re you swapping? Aren’t bear stonks going up?
The .5 patch kind of remains to be seen and Pwar is just very far ahead right now
I'm also feeling the magic damage in some of these keys on bear but not on my pwar
Makes me worried about Thundering Hero on bear being more effort than I'm willing to put forth
Pugging keys and finding that I can +2 M10s pretty easily, but many M12/13s have bosses that are just hard walls. You guys seeing the same?
The .5 patch does look good on the surface but it effectively forces bear to split builds and might make us slightly worse into things we're already not great at
Cotank also a VDH
So I feel like Pwar/VDH will be better on Mythic Broodkeeper than Bear VDH
Your rend does so much more dmg, are you pressing revenge and tc enough
But dungeon logs are kinda iffy
almost every gcd, i press revenge when i have no need of ip and SB is active and i use tc everytime is active
I'm just learning to tank, is there a cheat sheet of spell reflects maybe? or do I just have to learn what is with a weakaura. Also what about spell blocking, like if I use it on First Boss in Ruby Life Pools am I just blocking everything from her for 20 seconds?

how do you beat overgrown tree in mythic
unless its just the dps who stink at taking the little shits down
Save lust for second big add. Make sure the big adds go down first prio. Kick the heals and stand in the green puddle it spawns on death
heal, cleanse
Cleanses the DoT and heals you
usually its the getto toxins that kill me
guess its just everyone knowing mechanics and stacking and getting in the circle for the heal
Thanks
thanks for the info
what is bsv?
Is elemental a must craft? i have a pretty decent neck and i could do with a new weapon, am i gimping myself?
elemental lariat that is
It's a good and safe option
Doesn't take a tier slot, is broad enough to be used on other specs
And is good
fair enough! i have 2 sparks anyway but just wanted to see what to spend resources on first
cheers
Wouldn't weapon/shield be best bang for buck crafts for prot if you can do m+16s?
And then looted one 🫠
@sleek spindle I tried a different tree strat cuz the timing of the ancient branch dying and germinate doesn't always line up with a fixed lust time
we ignored the big add and only kicked it, and full swap bursted it down right after a germinate
so that it was guaranteed we would have access to the cleanse circle without a bunch of shit in it
depending on how dps is spread sometimes when you just lust at a fixed time like 2nd adds bunch, 2nd branch, etc, if something makes it line up poorly with germinate you can get screwed, so i think the key is just not having cleanse circle and germinate at almost same time, however you want to accomplish that
I also just did it as Fury in another group (just a +12 so may not apply if ur one of these nuts doing +20s), after the 2nd little adds pack I blew all my burst with TR + Odyns on the small adds and did leap away from group and taunted the branch to kill him away from everything and that made it super easy for the group
but it requires someone else in the group actually doing something to help you as tank lol
why is m+ all prot warrior? dps?
Prot is the best tank
cause someone says its S tier so everyone starts playing it
Fury is also good but loses value if you have prot
spent some more valor upgrading shoulder piecse, have 395 1/4
Everything is blockable
is this just you cick and and it happens, or you have to complete the puzzle your self
some minigame shit happens, incase i get it
im more interested in a passive trinket though
the puzzle box is like a 2 sec cast buff, i love it
was annoying at first not being instant but i love the manual trigger huge mastery boost
takes some time getting used to standing still like ur casting a frost bolt right before ur burst lol
yea it's pretty badass for prot and fury, and knowing exactly when you want it is great
its long CD but the effect i believe is bigger than any other on use trinket in game
Combernation of a few things, but lets start by saying all the tanks survibility wiseare actually very well balanced, some are even broken in some sense like druid healing through wildfire i believe it is. But for prot specifically, they wanted nake tanks easier to play and strong so more ppl would play them. So they gave prot a very good very fun playstyle as well as buffing block on its own and through talents etc. So they buffed our best mitigation tool. And because they made it easier to play u can keep block up pretty much 100% of the time. Which usually used to be impossible or very hard to do in previous expansion espeically at the start. Now what they have also done is make mpre things like bosses in raid do blockable phyiscal damage and tank busters which previously also they didnt tend to do as much. In top of this in m+ they wanted to make it easier on tanks so instead of mobs casting all the time at the tank the casts are spread among the group meaning a bigger portion of damage taken is not pyhsical blockable damage. And as they made that easier for us to do it just makes us naturally.
Also because of all this we can sit in b stance and do a lot more damage than we are supposed too, if we are in d stance like we are supposed to be we woyld be close to druid in damage.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk
fang adornments or spikes? is the difference really marginal?
10 is a reasonable key to pug at 382, still challenging but good risk to reward
and whats the dif between the ranks
there's an overabundance of dps queueing like usual so even though you can get groups as tank at 382, most 10s can easily get closer to 390 dps cuz they can be picky with 100 dps queueing up lol
im 390 and im doing +15
so we get the luxury of often being the lowest ilvl in pugs with overgeared dps
i signed for 6 hov today, got kicked in a minute
figure i'll learn on low keys
if you had ur own group you could, but no pug is taking a 382 into a +15
I've done some 10s at 375 or so, but I have a static
thats cuz pugs doesnt know
you dont need to be 400 ilvl for a 15
yeah is not wrong but a 380 can easly time a 15
depending on the dps ofc
and if you healer is not using the chrismas turkey as a helm
is there a way someone can scam me while im trying to make a spark weapon
i dont understand the crafting system very well
and i just wanna make sure i dont miss something
U make an order theres no way for them to scam u
people will definitely join ur key even if ur like 380 something

