protection

[broken moon]

see you're getting it

[lusty grotto]

no i dont

[warm plinth]

Nim

His about me says it all my friend

[lusty grotto]

didnt really need to see it

[warm plinth]

😂

[lusty grotto]

whenever some idiot gets uppity about an answer he doesnt want, its always the same

[broken moon]

now we're name calling, thats mature

[lusty grotto]

im not an adult

so

sue me

or at least thats what you claimed

make up your mind

[warm plinth]

Hmm maybe, but that seems like a poor way to go about it unless they have a disclaimer or something saying that the trinket's value is with the ring.

[broken moon]

re-read then come back to me

[lusty grotto]

no thanks felicia, now figure your shit out

[warm plinth]

Greek, if we're such a shitty discord, can you go away? You're just being an asshole now.

Yeah but that trinket is good even without the ring

Like stupid good

lol

God help any group I tank for if I ever get that

I'm aiming every frontal at them

I NEED MY CDR

[hard timber]

So since i am only doing m+ and not really raiding at all.. i have crafted my lariat, what would the second best choice be? I am already sitting at a 392 weapon and shield, would it really be worth to craft that or would something like a "Wrist" slot that is still 385 be worth it?

dont wanna waste my spark on nothing

[lusty grotto]

depends on your key level

and how far youll go

crafted stuff is upgradeable

[hard timber]

currently hovering 14-16

[lusty grotto]

so you have no issues getting infusions

[warm plinth]

You can probably just craft stuff to fill your low spots at that point

[lusty grotto]

or concentrated ones for that matter

[shrewd steeple]

i found the buff its roughly 25% so its not bad

[hard timber]

yeh i have no porblems getting infusions at all no

i guess a low ilvl thing would be a good place to replace then

😄 thanks for the answer

[lusty grotto]

remember

crafted gear with concentrated can get high as hell

if you dont plan to hit 20s... it might be a better options for some crucial slots

[hard timber]

what do u mean with concentraterd?

[lusty grotto]

you should be getting pieces of those in 16s

[hard timber]

oh yeh

[lusty grotto]

after every 16+ run

[warm plinth]

yeah it's called concentrated primal focus

[hard timber]

exactly why i am splitted if i should do weapon or wrists since wrist is my very lowest ilvl

i dont have enough concentrated yet

but i have plenty normal ones

[lusty grotto]

so if you can get a 418 shield, and never hit the key level for 418s shields... that's a valid option

you should

its a guaranteed drop

from 16 and up

[hard timber]

yeh i have only done one 16

so thats why ofc

[lusty grotto]

i see

well yeah the idea remains

[hard timber]

so i guess i could just make a shield huh

and then later on recraft it higher

[warm plinth]

si

[lusty grotto]

i havent crafted lariat yet cause im 100% sure gonna get fucked on weapon RNG

it happens every season

[craggy pilot]

im so sad i didnt get crafted weapon :/

[warm plinth]

cough

[lusty grotto]

so im >< this close on crafting a weapon

[craggy pilot]

but i think ill just get 1h from M+ and Valor upgrade it

max Valor is 415 right?

[lusty grotto]

ghash you should have seen my vault this week

[hard timber]

i rerolled away to prot warrior like 4 days ago (was dps) and the luck i had to aquire gear on this character is insane xd

[warm plinth]

yeah

[lusty grotto]

idk why i expected something different

[warm plinth]

But you need 2400 to upgrade to 415

[lusty grotto]

yup and that's still lower than concentrated infused crafted stuff

provided you got a giga chad that can t5 with it

[hard timber]

guess ima go make the shield then if someone can craft it :x tradechat gamer

[lusty grotto]

but that will come with time anyway

i swear to god, im pretty sure you cant cross server work order

i know matta said you could but

ive tried different things and cant

[craggy pilot]

i can make it on Sunstrider-EU, bit of a longshot 😄

[lusty grotto]

always the max orders for the week message

even though its a personal order, which doesnt have caps

[hard timber]

unlucky! i am on twisting nether 😄

but i apreciate it!

[pulsar walrus]

is Disrupting Shout's cast prevention classed as a silence?

[lusty grotto]

i believe so

[warm plinth]

what do you mean by classed as a silence

[lusty grotto]

im guessing he means not being able to cast while its on

[pulsar walrus]

^

[warm plinth]

It is not a silence. It's an interrupt.

If it hits an enemy that is not casting, it does nothing.

[lusty grotto]

actually yes

[warm plinth]

well,e xcept the aggro ofc

[lusty grotto]

ghash is right

i stand corrected

[pulsar walrus]

mdt has Crystal Furys in Azure Vault marked as being silence-able, and was wondering if I could use Disrupting to stop Piercing Shards

[lusty grotto]

school not being able to be casted is just standard for kicks

[warm plinth]

Piercing Shards needs to be stopped by a stun/knock/etc. It's not interruptible

[pulsar walrus]

gotcha, thanks!

[lusty grotto]

just desync them with fear/stun

so you dont get 2 back to back

[warm plinth]

If you ever did nelth's lair back in the day, it's similar to the piercing shards those hulks did

[lusty grotto]

if youre referring to uhh

the double fury pull

or whatever their name is

[pulsar walrus]

I was trying to do a route with the triple in the first room

[lusty grotto]

can probably do it

just gotta be smart with desyncing

its risky though

handling 3 of those with melee is always a hoot

one wrong step and dead melee

or thundering for that matter

xD

[red dune]

Hey guys, i'm currently 385 ilvl and tried to do Jade in +15 and +14. Most of the time in every dungeon atm i don't have any problem but here, i struggle a lot on the second boss. Every time, the stacks are killing me so fast i can't handle it. How do you manage this boss ?

[strong forum]

no clue tbh

that boss just shits out dmg on everybody

[red dune]

I did it with no problem with my BDK but on my war it seems to be almost unplayable. Even on Cds

[sick sentinel]

healers don't seem to survive long in the pugs i run

seems to be recurring problem

didn't even have grevious

[warm temple]

On prot warrior you spell reflect on cooldown to spit some of the agonies back

dump rage on ignore pain like nobodies business and i also make sure to run immovable object ( bottom left in tree) so when i avatar i get shield wall

[limpid anchor]

So it’s not just not knowing some hidden mech

[strong forum]

cuz its almost exclusively magic damage

unless you have CDs up, pwar is kinda naked vs that boss

[limpid anchor]

Even on fortified that boss shit out so much dmg

[brave portal]

try Spell Block too?

[strong forum]

yes

totjs is a spellblock + defenders aegis dungeon

[warm temple]

yeah i also use spell block, assume thats a given there

[lusty grotto]

gotta use SR on cd for the DR if possible

[strong forum]

for the many fucky adds

and 2nd + 3rd boss

spell block + defenders aegis is very strong in that dungeon and gets alot of milage

i guess immovable object also good

for ultra megazoid turtle

[warm temple]

feels bad giving up the damage but i run it in all my 15 or higher keys right now, helps a lot with staying alive

[brave portal]

a dead tank cant dps

[strong forum]

unstoppable force isnt even that much more damage

your rage usage just shifts a bit more towards revenge

but other than that, its almost equal dmg output

[marsh ivy]

does anyone have tools or an addon for the routes on all dragonflight dungeons?

[olive steeple]

is the primal ritual shell good for us?

i just got it 😄

[marsh ivy]

I have MDT for the mythis

[oak echo]

Mdt is the standard for routing ya. Everyone that shares routes is gonna do it through an Mdt export

[red dune]

ty for your answers guys ! I'll try it again tomorrow

[craggy pilot]

rumbling wave only doing a little bit more dmg than my Hoof 🤔 and hoof gives huge Str even

[grave wedge]

hey guys very noob question but how does simming work for prot warrior vs a dps class. are we just simming for damage output? with the new talents im a little lost on simming in general haha ( last time i ran sim was my bm hunter during nyalothia since then i havent had much need)

[lusty grotto]

yes

[stark jewel]

sim is only dps, you cant sim "tankiness"

[lusty grotto]

it should say so at the top

or at least it used to say it on raidbots, idk i havent opened the thing since i still get ilvl upgrades

[jolly silo]

Anyone else get absolutely shredded on the tree boss in AA? Twice now in two different +8s with a druid healer.. dps die at like 30% and I die at like 20%.

[lusty grotto]

gotta cycle group cds for aoe

[stark jewel]

dps have to stand in circle to clear dot

[lusty grotto]

and cleanse poison with treant green circle

[fiery kiln]

Anyone know if it's possible to block the 2nd boss in temple (peril and strife) without spell block?

[grave wedge]

thats what i thought. so basically sim for high offensive but dont be an idiot and give up good defensives because something sims higher on dps (trinkets and talents)

[brave portal]

with the Tree Boss in AA - dont use CD's for first adds, use CD;s for the second spawn of little adds - the Branch - kick his heal and get everyone in the greenish circle left behind to cleanse (when he dies)

[lusty grotto]

in general

[craggy pilot]

you can spell Reflect the Agony, so just pop it on CD

[lusty grotto]

you dont want defensive trinkets... again, in general

[fiery kiln]

ty was just told to shield block by a healer just making sure i wasn't stupid 😛

[craggy pilot]

you should also have shield block up though

but you cant shield block the spells

[fiery kiln]

the dmg was cracked on 19 so i was just spamming IP for healer

[craggy pilot]

its Loremaster Stonestep no?

[fiery kiln]

yes

[wraith crater]

What kind of spell block % buff uptime is considered good in m+?

[lusty grotto]

theres no such thing

[craggy pilot]

hmm ye seems like they dont do melee 🤔

[lusty grotto]

spell block has a big cd

[fiery kiln]

yea that's what i figured

[olive steeple]

how good is primal ritual shell

[wraith crater]

i ment shield block! soz

[lusty grotto]

if anything spell block uptime will depend on if you're actually spell blocking spells

oh then near to 100% but it depends on your downtime

[craggy pilot]

hard to say what is "good" uptime, but something like 70-80+
something better to look at is % attacks blocked, through logs

[compact jackal]

So the LFR raid kind of sucks.

[lusty grotto]

100% if youre chain pulling

[compact jackal]

You can't roll on things for mog if you already have it.

[wraith crater]

Ah, good tip. Were note at the constant chain pulling yet here

[craggy pilot]

i was at 88% in my dungeon just now, even though i feel i have 100%

[wraith crater]

Ill have a look at the % attacks blocked vs what goes through without blocking too

[lusty grotto]

yes you can see that in logs

just check every blockable attack, if you have questions refer to the blockable list in the pins by Master Sense

[hard timber]

So since coming from dps to tank.
Does it still count with valor upgrades to just start with jewelery first and trinkets and then anything else?

[wraith crater]

tyty, will have a look 🙂

[hard timber]

cause i would get more for less

[craggy pilot]

depends on what ilvl your shield/wep is

im going for something like shield/wep/trinkets for valor

[lusty grotto]

that's weird valor usage

i would have guessed they went weapons first

since you know, weapon is the highest dps upgrade

for every melee period

[craggy pilot]

i guess weapon upgrades are just very expensive in Valor when its 2h

but idk

[lusty grotto]

and jewelry first means youre also pumping the item slots with less stats

which is not good at all for prot

[hard timber]

craftnig shield soon tho

[compact jackal]

🤔 do I make a 405 lariat or a 405 sword with fang next week

decisions decisions

not sword because Strike Back or whatever 🤔

[near pewter]

Anyone have any mythic tank POV videos for the first couple bosses they could recommend?

[white bane]

What would be a good choice of the embellishments? I hear the neck is good but I'm not sure what 2nd

[lusty grotto]

did you go through the pins?

[craggy pilot]

https://www.youtube.com/@SenseNurfed/videos

[sterile bough]

any tips how could i help my healer on 2nd boss on jade?, on 17 he was doing 90k hps and 30% of that into me

[chrome falcon]

SR on cooldown

generate rage spend it on IP

IV on cooldown when below 60%

[near pewter]

If im using the ritual shell what blessing do you all recommend for mythic raid?

[sterile bough]

I meant more of specific talents

taht could help

[chrome falcon]

eh

you could run spell block

[brave portal]

we talked about this further up

[craggy pilot]

spell block for temple is kinda useful

[sterile bough]

does it work tho

[craggy pilot]

for Dark Claw + 2nd boss

but its 2min CD for 20sec spell block

[brave portal]

#protection message

[craggy pilot]

guess you can also go double wall

[sterile bough]

instead of that I guess?

[craggy pilot]

huh?

[sterile bough]

how else do u run double wall

[craggy pilot]

Spell Block instead of Armor Spikes

Double wall instead of Impenetrable Wall

[sterile bough]

I pref the cheat death rather then IW

[chrome falcon]

[craggy pilot]

[chrome falcon]

that sounds

fucking

[craggy pilot]

what talent build are you running?

[chrome falcon]

TERRIBLE

my boy

[near pewter]

Does spell block work for magical dmg DoT's?

[chrome falcon]

no

[strong forum]

I'd rather give up thunderlord

[craggy pilot]

if you run BSV, do it instead of Thunderlord, not instead of IW

[strong forum]

Than impenetrable wall

[chrome falcon]

thunderlord is so mid

[craggy pilot]

damn this nome came in here faaaaast

[strong forum]

Seems kinda troll to give up 1min SW

[craggy pilot]

mids

😄

[sterile bough]

acutally true

[chrome falcon]

thunderlords decree could knock literally half the CD off demo shout

[compact jackal]

Primal Council LFR is the same as normal 🤢

[chrome falcon]

this thing is a pretty tragic imitation

[sterile bough]

in theory u could use it 2 times in between cds

but in reality u use it once anyway

[loud patrol]

dont sacrifice 1m SW D:

[craggy pilot]

u can have 1min SW or double SW

[loud patrol]

i also treat it badly until it saved me a coumple of times

[chrome falcon]

not just

1 min SW

also rage from SS

[tender cove]

someone good at math? what are the odds off rolling ruby 4 times in a row? 😦

[glad stirrup]

hey all...in AOE does SS take prio over TC? Feel like I have a pretty good feel for the spec but SS dmg/casts are lacking a bit

[hard timber]

I guess upgrading my weapon to 405 instead of my trinket would be the better all when i craft a 405 shield too

[sterile bough]

well use according to what uneed

can do dmg use TC

just make sure u maintain brace for impact

[cinder knot]

does anyone have a good route for Broodkeeper?

for the egg breaking

[glad stirrup]

yea i dont think i'm in jeopardy of letting brace drop...just seems like looking at damage breakdowns SS comes out on top quite often. Guides seem to have TC as prio over SS in aoe just wanted to make sure

[sterile bough]

HUH what is taht

[cinder knot]

for the boss, im on egg duty

[smoky haven]

what enchant is best for bracers?

[cinder knot]

dont really know where adds spawn by heart so lol

[smoky haven]

theres a route on wowhead guide

[cinder knot]

oh is there? ty

[smoky haven]

i see m raider prot wars use devotion of avoidance but isnt tht just for aoe dmg? leech might be better in M+ right

[loud patrol]

dorki routes are nice

[craggy pilot]

world boss trinket any good? 🤔

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/867Phr9bUcekWoLSQcUaxu
lol +0.1 % dps 🤣

[warm plinth]

Eh I mean, that makes it a pretty decent trinket if it's simming a bit better than slightly lower of two really good trinkets

[lusty grotto]

fuck you, i use it

[lucid dew]

Has anyone got decoration of flame?

And been able to effectively use it?

[craggy pilot]

i guess my trinkets are quite good for 389 tho

[sterile bough]

any ideas what could I drop to get side arm and the increased max rage? except pain and gain

[craggy pilot]

honed reflexes for sidearm

the max rage will sacrifice some CC or something

[sterile bough]

hmm honed reflexes is acutally kinda nice

cause in st sometimes I dont get reset of ss

and jsut wait 7sec

[lusty grotto]

or you have good RNG

[fair stump]

what stats dowe want on our lariat? haste vers?

[lusty grotto]

and i do not

[craggy pilot]

😦

[craggy pilot]

haste/vers/crit, any combination of those

[craggy pilot]

TC & Revenge can reset ur SS, so sounds like maybe your using a lot of IP

but idk honestly, i get a ton of SS resets

[sterile bough]

ye I guess lower cd on the IW could help it

[craggy pilot]

but im also running Battering Ram

[lusty grotto]

right honed isnt really needed with resets

its okay

but not mandatory by any means

[craggy pilot]

well neither is Sidearm, so i guess thats just a choice to make 🤷‍♂️

[lusty grotto]

yeah idk i prefer sidearm, and just swap sidearm with other stuff when i need it like wrecking throw for RLP and shit like that

[craggy pilot]

never rly change my talents for M+ yet

might come with higher keys but idk

feels quite consistent

[sterile bough]

also are dummies in valdrakkan somehow bad for testing our dmg?

casue im simming for 20k on st

im doing 20k on st in dungs

im doing 12k on dummies...

[tender cove]

depends what dummy, if you're hitting the raid one, it's 3 lvls higher and you'll do less dmg.

At least thats how it used to be, not sure if its still true tbh

Could also just be buffs, bloodlust for example

[sterile bough]

the ones in here

[craggy pilot]

there are 2 dmg dummies, one for Raid one for non raid

[tender cove]

if you hover over the dummy, it will say "raiding" or "dungeon"

[craggy pilot]

but then again, sim should be based on raid bosses, so idk 🤷‍♂️

[lusty grotto]

well in theory wrekcing should do a shitload of dmg to 1st boss in RLP

in theory, i have logs but i havent looked yet cause im swamped with work

i swap to ber rage on nokhud also for twins

[civic girder]

Should you be doing as much damage as DPS in raid/mythic+? I just focused on living lol

[lusty grotto]

its just shitty min maxing really

oh that wasnt answering you floridaman

yes you should be focusing on dps

[atomic flicker]

No

[craggy pilot]

also how are you only simming 20k 🤔 im simming 29k with 391 ilvl, didnt you say you were doing +19s?

[lusty grotto]

and only start focusing in defensives when you've hit a wall

and let me clarify, only when you've hit a wall you can't fix by improving your gameplay

[sterile bough]

no Im doing 16s

[craggy pilot]

ah ok, must have misread then

[sterile bough]

but how the fuck are u simming 30k

u have like all enchants etc?

[craggy pilot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mqXJ2QoYYNnkHeaotSsxBg
no clue rly 😄

thought i would sim like 20k

its even without WFT

[sterile bough]

oke bruh

tahts how u sim 30k

[ocean finch]

Are you guys running the wowhead talent build for M+? or any other one?

[craggy pilot]

ah ur simming with no buffs?

[sterile bough]

ye

just battle shout

[craggy pilot]

[craggy pilot]

i sim 23,3k with just BS

[atomic flicker]

Panda tank master race

[craggy pilot]

🐼

[sterile bough]

guess hoof and 16ilvl from mainhand make the 3k

but I hate hoof

[craggy pilot]

hoof is nice

[sterile bough]

if it only was 1;30...

like hwo tf do I use it

[craggy pilot]

i like getting better at using it

no CDs line up on Prot anyway

i just chug it on CD

[tender cove]

macro it to avatar and forget about it?

[sterile bough]

[atomic flicker]

I'm still using forgestorm from heroic according to sims it's still the best

[mighty valley]

what's the point in simming with no buffs if you're gonna have buffs in all situations that matter

[lusty grotto]

they arent wrong

[craggy pilot]

u dont have all buffs in M+

[mighty valley]

sure but you have more than battle shout

[craggy pilot]

but i think he was simming it to compare to his target dummy dmg

[atomic flicker]

Not necessarilly

You could have a grp with no buffs

[mighty valley]

the classic five warrior no consumables run

[atomic flicker]

Bandage only run

[sterile bough]

I only run food and battle shout

buffs overrated

[mighty valley]

if someone uses bloodlust, i click that shit off IMMEDIATELY

[craggy pilot]

food + sharpening stone + flask

ezpz

[atomic flicker]

Check out Mr money bags over here using food

[lusty grotto]

i dont think it matters anyway

[craggy pilot]

i got it macroed to /cancelaura Bloodlust in my shield slam

[lusty grotto]

you're comparing to yourself

if youre comparing to someone else then yes make sure you have the same buffs

[sterile bough]

rn the issue is on healer anyway

[craggy pilot]

gotta save money on that food, and get full usage of that Pandaren Racial ❤️

[sterile bough]

thats jiga

[atomic flicker]

Lol that's some king shit right there

[sterile bough]

how do u get that even

[lusty narwhal]

is ruby whelp shell any good for prot?

[sterile bough]

some engi thing?

[craggy pilot]

havent had a single dungeon without 100% uptime of Well Fed 👑

[atomic flicker]

I had to use armor spikes on my shield just to get that classic shield spike feeling

[craggy pilot]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=200652/alchemical-flavor-pocket

[tender cove]

alchemy

[craggy pilot]

and the best thing is, it doesnt count as embellish

i can still make an Armor Spikes belt or some shit 😄

[atomic flicker]

Wait

Wtf

It doesnt

[tender cove]

Im jealous of your ilvl, mine is only 389:(

[craggy pilot]

391.9

[tender cove]

on the shield*

[atomic flicker]

Say sike right now

[craggy pilot]

getting declined for +13

[sterile bough]

ye ilvl is irrelevant

[tender cove]

I barely bother trying anymore, i just suck it up and do my endless ruby keys 😄

[sterile bough]

only io matters

[craggy pilot]

i have 1675 r.io 😄

[sterile bough]

rn?

or last week

[craggy pilot]

rn

[tender cove]

ouff

[sterile bough]

then its kinda meh

[lusty narwhal]

Anyone know if the Ruby Whelp Shell trinket from Ruby Life Shores is any good for prot?

[craggy pilot]

was like 1400 last week

[sterile bough]

thats around 13s

[craggy pilot]

14-13 ye

timed most on 10-14

just missing a few Tyran

[topaz mauve]

best buff for primal ritual shell in M+?

[craggy pilot]

fire

[topaz mauve]

figured

ty

[craggy pilot]

if you dont wanna go full dmg, i think Earth gives stats which gives both dmg+def

[sterile bough]

also sim assumes u are in battle stance

[craggy pilot]

oh wait no the Earth is full shield

[sterile bough]

not defensive

kinda F

[craggy pilot]

yes?

we are in Bstance 90% of the time

[sterile bough]

acutally true Im not dying

I should just play with it

[craggy pilot]

BStance is ~14% dmg gain

[sterile bough]

ye its kinda equal now

compared to b4

[proud dock]

for nokud, do most people just clear third area for %?

[craggy pilot]

yes

[proud dock]

wat % do you need if u skip to last boss+2 adds

[craggy pilot]

94.5%

[proud dock]

ok roughly matches wat i have thanks

[craggy pilot]

mdt is a bit weird in nokhud

keep that in mind

[proud dock]

yeah ive noticed % variance

[tender cove]

did they nerf loot drops from m+ going into DF?

[sick sentinel]

doing the new part of the story is a good idea

some quest gave me 2500 tuskar rep

[dark lark]

It's just straight up wrong and it won't be fixed until RWF is over

Because Nnoggie is it's dev

[cloud onyx]

Currently deciding if I wanna pick up prot warrior. Do they have an easy way to group up packs? Dks got grip, abomb limb. Pally got captain america shields

[autumn urchin]

there is an option if u want it but its a 1min 30 sec cd

https://i.imgur.com/p44alT1.png

[tender cove]

I use titanic throw, its basically like captain america shield. Ranged throw ability that hits 5 targets and you dont really sacrifice much for it.

So i just titanic and LOS. or titanic, charge, clap and spam.

[slender wedge]

Are we targeting some % in haste?

i already have 25% idk how much i should stack

[lusty grotto]

NO

all of it

i use neither of those and have 0 problems

even after having trash ass rng and no weapon drops

[lucid dew]

I see a lot of people running decorative flame. Is this going to be bis for m plus ?

[sick sentinel]

what about reputation wrist or boots

i still need either of those, plenty of rings going around

[frosty rivet]

How do I

Convince my cotank
For years
To stop gemming stam, stop holding RP until you take damage, its okay to deathstrike to clear part of your RP bar u dumb f

Multiple whipes cuz the man refuses to play the game the right way

[mortal brook]

tell him that and if your relationship isnt healthy then shop up?

or find his medium of taking criticism, such as through officer or whatever

[lusty narwhal]

can someone explain why this item is good or bad? all the guides say its good

[sick sentinel]

its a dk

[slim dove]

its meh

[sick sentinel]

they speak another seperate language

can't change them

[slim dove]

why have you subjected yourself to this for years?

[warm plinth]

Who is your raid leader

[sick sentinel]

i have a friend who is a dk and he is the same way in different regards

[warm plinth]

Why is he letting this happen

[sick sentinel]

shit raid leader

tanks fighting = dead raid

[warm plinth]

I hope you're raiding normal if you got a tank gemming stam

[sick sentinel]

gives him more maximum hp, so DS heals for more

yes, dk's really

[mortal brook]

❓

[lost dock]

Prot friends.. Plz help me decide between a 408 Storm Eater and 408 tier helm that will yield 2 set.. i cant decide 😮

[brisk gust]

Had a guy in my key we depleted the +15key cuz we wiped on last boss on 10%, He insta leaves, literally wasted half an hour on a key and just fucked 4 people over lmao.

People are funny

[sick sentinel]

dk i know wants only mastery stat, cuz after he takes dmg he deathstrike to heal him self back up, heals more than healers

says bdk dmg is dog shit

[cloud onyx]

Thanks

[fair stump]

Lariat bis to use sparks on? Or should I craft a weapon

[mortal pelican]

any guides for what i should use my spark and primal infusion on?

triple neck vs weapon i guess

[stark fox]

Stupid question. Valor cap was 1500 last week and went up to 2250 this week. If you earned 1500 last week, can you spend all 1500 and earn 2250 this week or can you only earn the new 750 increase.

[tired solar]

only the new 750

[craggy pilot]

do i do anything special vs this frontal on Azureblade (Azure Vault) ? its hitting like a fucking truck on +14

[blazing condor]

I usually just tank but maybe you can outrange it with leap

[frozen rose]

What resources do y’all use for determine best trinkets for survival or dps

[mortal pelican]

for m+ this week i use double aborb trnks. preventing grievous imo is super helpful

[lavish oracle]

Sims and the oooold noggin

[azure narwhal]

how much DPS should I be aiming for as Prot?

[compact jackal]

I don't like Broodkeeper heroic as the boss tank.

It hurts my brain

[minor sparrow]

whats the play for 2nd and 3rd boss tjs

[tender cove]

what are the current best classes to bring with pwarr? Heals and dps?

[south zealot]

no. it just hits hard

[foggy loom]

its hot dogshit

that shit rarely procs

[slim dove]

spell block

[south zealot]

spell block is for casuals just ignore the pain

[slim dove]

idk fam it starts chunking hard

[south zealot]

yeah but theres no other damage on that trash

so just impending victory

3head

[craggy pilot]

the boss does live longer than 20 seconds though 😄

but man feeling like double wall is nice in some of these Tyrannical dungeons

some of the tank busters are insane

[slim dove]

its another stop

for 2 cleaves

[craggy pilot]

i can reflect every 2nd

so it only rly helps for one 🤷‍♂️

but maybe double wall + shield block will make me fill out enough gaps

[slim dove]

and then intermission

so ur fine

go def stance also for each cleave

[craggy pilot]

oh ye tru 🤦 i did only SR

[slim dove]

externals are also a thing too

but generally u should be fine if you rotate stuff gud and the boss dies before 3rd intermission

[crimson snow]

is it best to level as prot if im learning how to play prot/warrior or is it still better to level as arms/fury?

[hollow thorn]

Anyone having any luck charging / leaping at 4 stacks on H Dathea?

I feel like no matter how quick I hit it, it's too late lol

[south zealot]

no bc i dont tank raid

[frosty rivet]

might be connection

6+ is when it starts to get iffy

Honestly turbo fingering ur charge before

[reef haven]

I'm so triggered, depleted a rlp 3 times in a row

cause dps can't figure mechanics on bosses

[gleaming blaze]

Frozen Devotion or Wafting Devotion?

[reef haven]

frozen does not give you any defense

[hollow token]

Folks got used to face rolling and got lazy

[cinder nova]

Frozen if you wanna chad, anything else if you got a membership card to this place

[fast knot]

Temple 3rd boss actually pikes lol

Nerfed the dungeon tho

[golden crescent]

Does the 4p just feed into ignore pain or does it actually generate one?

[cinder nova]

Generates.

It's actually pretty pog

[golden crescent]

Ya that’s kinda nuts actually

[cinder nova]

It has obviously strong synergy with BrV

[golden crescent]

So it resets the buff duration then?

[cinder nova]

2p is poopybutts

Disclaimer that my familiarity with it is from the beta

So ymmv

[warm plinth]

It's basically a high uptime 4% damage buff. Free damage is free damage

[reef haven]

3 melee on 2nd boss is game changing

no stupid range who refuses to stack

[hollow token]

No doubt

[reef haven]

so meteors and adds are actually baited into good positions

[vernal vale]

I got to 5 just fine and number 6 killed me outright.

[cinder nova]

Sounds like ping

I was doing like 7-8

Mostly because pug tanks are absolute garbage.

[stark fox]

Any tips for surviving Liu Flamehearts strike?

[reef haven]

the jade?

[stark fox]

yea

[reef haven]

last stand can fully mitigate 1 absorb

impending victory also mitigates a lot of it

[stark fox]

Spell Block does nothing though right

[bleak stump]

what gem should i use for lariat

[reef haven]

think its a flat amount

[opal python]

the ruby whelp shell stat proc is prio without targeting anything and using the trink right?

[neon kiln]

how long do we want to hold onto the Assembly Guardian's Ring, if at all?

[remote dawn]

is ruby shell good?

[eager schooner]

@neon kiln cobalt rings are very very good, so "if at all" is 100% out the window

[neon kiln]

fair enough! thank you

[merry umbra]

those are better

[limber flame]

60 deaths in a COS to last boss

couldnt take it anymore

[median tulip]

You can use any Air gem to get it to proc Haste; this includes the pure Haste Ysemerald and all of the gems which have Haste as the lesser of two secondaries.

[bleak stump]

ty

[median tulip]

Note that you get more overall stats from the dual-stat gems than from the pure single stat ones

[bleak stump]

should i use the haste/vers one?

[median tulip]

Only you can decide the answer to that question

[bleak stump]

lol ty

[median tulip]

Some of the ground effects in CoS can be really hard to see, but 60 is a bit OTT

[warm plinth]

haste/crit if you're a gamer

[warm plinth]

People standing too close to the adds/boss maybe?

I know he does a lot of damage anyway but it's a lot more if you're in melee range of any of the adds or the boss

[full violet]

Yo Guys, im wearing the lariat and crafted shield. Im thinking about adding the alchemist embellishment on shield since it doesnt add unique and craft belt next week. Am i misunderstanding something or should this Work?

[compact jackal]

it works as you think

FREE

[full violet]

I like

[last crest]

Guys is it normal that horn sims so low ?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ipajrrXhyyhkhp44KNhtrX

[timber coral]

How do I see battle scarred veteran CD?

[warm plinth]

Alchemist embellishment?

[compact jackal]

I am the offset king

[last crest]

compared to Trample trinket

[full violet]

Food through death and double duration

[warm plinth]

Oh

did not know that was an alc thing tbh 😂

[full violet]

Idk if its from Alchemist, name of it just suggests it 😂

[warm plinth]

oh gotcha

[warm plinth]

What do you mean by normal? Horn isn't that great of a trinket while trample is one of our stronger ones

[last crest]

i was told horn is amazing

dammit

https://tenor.com/view/toystory-buzz-buzzlightyear-academy-training-gif-7910531

[warm plinth]

I mean it's not a terrible trinket but it's not something that I'd expect to outperform quite a few other trinkets is all

[mortal brook]

It was historically a nice trinket. But

https://tenor.com/view/worldofwar-timeschange-change-garrosh-gif-13230689

[warm plinth]

Just like whetstone was historically not a great trinket and is now one of the best for a number of specs

[solar blade]

wait whetstone wasnt great back in legion (not talking prot)? I missed something i guess

[warm plinth]

I don't recall it being that great in Legion. At least it wasn't a trinket that was often mentioned. That being said we also had trinkets like draught of souls back then

[edgy spear]

That boss would be a 100 times better if there was a few more seconds between his charge and casting the AoE channel. He only gets 5-10 yards away from the last clone before he casts it, which just forces melee to afk on other side of platform or die

[warm plinth]

You dont' have to be very far from them to not get the extra damage. like outlaw rogues or feral druids can still attack and not get the increased damage

It's not falloff damage like a traditional falloff mechanic. It's just x damage at >5 yards and x+y damage at <=5 yards

[edgy spear]

I was sure you had to be further away

[warm plinth]

Nah it was a very common misconception in Legion that has somewhat leaked through the ages (especially since it was also a timewalking M+ dungeon)

[edgy spear]

Yeah legion has been a while and I was on holiday the last time we had timewalking

[warm plinth]

But yeah as long as you're out of traditional melee range (of both him and the adds), you're taking as little as you can

[compact jackal]

The haste grows.

[warm plinth]

what % is that?

[compact jackal]

29.58

[warm plinth]

30% starts to feel so good

love high haste pwar

needs more leech 😂

[icy bane]

Healer kept getting hit by the ground dash shit he does that one shots on tyrannical

Wasnt even worth trying to stay for completion lol

[warm plinth]

Sad times

How do you even fuckin get hit by that man, it's the most obvious mechanic

[compact jackal]

41% in m+

[warm plinth]

Hell yeah dude

that's the good feels

[icy bane]

Tyrannical this week feels brutal

[warm plinth]

I knew that boss was gonna be nasty; it was spicy enough last week that I could tell

[icy bane]

Needing double shield wall for third boss in TOJS just to survive

[warm plinth]

😠

Blizz making us use our CDs

for shame

don't they know we're prot warriors like wtf

we don't use that shit

[icy bane]

Blizz making me leave battle stance

[warm plinth]

😂

[icy bane]

[warm plinth]

That's the real crime

[full violet]

What are you guys doing against second boss in TJS? im spamming SS and TC for IP and rotating defCDs and nothing else, still died on 17

[mortal brook]

suffering is what im doing on that boss

[icy bane]

Shield Reflect and spell block

And pray

[full violet]

I counted those as def cds

So praying it is, gotchu

[solar crown]

Is it normal that the tree-boss in academy is chaos? Feels like my dps didnt manage to get one round of lashers killed before the next one spawned

Is it a dps issue?

[open gazelle]

Trick is to pop cds first set of adds, lust on 2nd set, May still have a little bit of lust left for 3rd set of ads and cds should be back up. If you get a 4th that may be chaos

That’s what worked for me and I did a 14 on tyrannical

Timed it too, the rest of the dungeon is smooth and the last boss is sooo easy

[solar crown]

Hm, ok. And when do you kill the big-add? right away?

[open gazelle]

I don’t even think the big add does anything but try to cast a heal?

[solar crown]

We had like 6 lashers left, when the dps killed the big-add, and new rounds of lashers spawned

And then they just blew up

[open gazelle]

So just interrupt big add and aoe him down as well

The big focus is killing the lashers and just interrupting big add cast

[lone eagle]

The boss alternates

germinate germinate insta adds germinate germinate insta adds

so the 1st and 3rd sets of adds are w/e

you have forever to cleave them down

its the 2nd and 4th where the lashers instantly sprout

those are the danger ones where you want to use any 1m CDs etc

[open gazelle]

I never got a 4th set of adds so idk, I just remember it being important to save lust for 2nd set

[solar crown]

Doesnt the 2nd round of lashers activate the ones left from 1st wave (?)

Thanks for the input 🙂 My dps must have stood in something else then. They were hard-set on the fact that the 6 lashers left from 1st round did insane damage when the 2nd and 3rd wave spawned

And they didnt manage to kill things off, so it just spiraled

[open gazelle]

I still pop some cds for 1st and 3rd set

They stack a nasty dot on the tank too I beleieve

So it’s best to just kill them

[solar crown]

Had like 45 stacks of that lasher-debuf at one point

[open gazelle]

Lol

[solar crown]

Probably need to kite them more

[open gazelle]

Curious to see how it’s handled in mdi

[lean gale]

What was the guide writer thinking to say that the ruby whelp is an S tier trinekt?

[regal estuary]

I'm fairly certain when the big add dies, the green ring when he dies actually heals and maybe removes the stacks. You don't want to run away when the big add dies, and you want him to die shortly after the lashers

[plush relic]

^

[edgy spear]

Both heals and removes the stacks (not the poison tho) . Also heals the lashers/boss iirc

[regal estuary]

So kill lashers, then big add, and position him where you're in the ring and he's out. Plus ideally DPS make sure they get the heal so the healer can mostly just focus on the tank. I feel like the heal is big to a player's but maybe not that noticable to a boss with millions of health? Like a 500k heal will max out the entire party but only add a few seconds to the fight.

[tidal forge]

What trinkets are the best for raid and m+?

[wanton shale]

not focusing the branch/big add so he dies slower but just alternating kicks on his heal is easier. He dies so fast when you focus him down the knockback circles and next round of little adds come up

so you can get knocked off the cleansing circle with a bunch of adds spawning at same time if you kill the branch too fast

[sick sentinel]

are logs down

[compact jackal]

Does anyone else love raid tanking but then they look at m+ and just go "I would rather DPS"? Like low dps make me sadge

[wanton shale]

when he dies in like 3 secs and heals the next round of little adds and the boss on his circle the adds overwhelm you

[peak badger]

Guys how do you deal with azure vault mobs that cast piercing shards? Cant remember if this frontal follows tank or is avoidable?

[sick sentinel]

just yell at the healer until he dispel you

if you didnt get an evoker or rdru you did it wrong

[sick sentinel]

frontal follows tank and does not hurt that bad

[fast knot]

Ideally you stun

but yeah on non fort the damage isn't too terrible

[sick sentinel]

there is one pull where you can do 3* that mob

just dont do that on forty

[waxen cedar]

Cc on cast

[sick sentinel]

the only lethal kick on that entire panel is icy bindings

everything else is not that bad

[wanton shale]

are yall running the mega shockwave build for frequent stuns and big flashy numbers for M+ or mostly stay thunderous roar?

[edgy spear]

Roar

Shockwave build just stun DRs mobs for less overall dmg than thunderous roar build

[wary heath]

stun DR'ing issues is a myth that +25 key pushers like to spread

bring shockwave, and bring roar

[wanton shale]

ahh you run bboth?

[wary heath]

of course

[edgy spear]

You wanna have shockwave, but not the nodes buffing shockwave

Use shockwave as a stop, not as dps

[wary heath]

correct

[wanton shale]

i wish violent outburst applied to shockwave lol just for meme giant numbers flashing on the screen

[compact jackal]

How much is too much?

[wanton shale]

ok yea my regular build is the standard wowhead unbuffed shockwave one, was just testing out the maxed out shockwave but not worth it then

damn that's a lot of haste

[edgy spear]

Nop. Thunderous words also buffs deep wounds and rend.

[peak badger]

Thats weird, i was getting hit for 400k in a 20 with shiele block up

[azure plaza]

that reminds me, if I got TR and the nodes upgrading it, is fueled by violence better or the IP talent

I use fueled by violence

[sick sentinel]

ok idk about 20s

[fast knot]

Ideally yeah you stun those

lol

[sick sentinel]

but im positive its not physical attack

so having shield block up really doesnt matter for that frontal

[edgy spear]

Someone said yesterday that hard CCing the piercing shards cast prevented them from recasting. Havent confirmed it tho

[main silo]

realy stupid question here but i noticed that theese 3 craftable 1h's all have different damage ranges, and are simming differently (pic only for reference, it changes between sims what sims the best), is there any point at all thinking about this when getting a crafted 1h?

[sick sentinel]

get the sword because it looks better than the other 2

[wintry jetty]

also depends if they cast fury before

[chilly brook]

That’s not how that works 100% of the time

Jaina ice bolt for example

[sick sentinel]

iirc the shard comes with a dot debuff

[chilly brook]

Things that swing or shoot are usually a good idea of if it can be blocked but it isn’t the rule

Which is why the reflect/block sheet in the pins is great

[main silo]

nah in that case axe looking giga

[chilly brook]

In the case of piercing shards, you’d need spell block to block it

Just figured I’d look

[wooden scarab]

any good resources to learn about tanking m+ and general m+ tips n tricks?

[obsidian path]

Trial and error doing lower keys

[chilly brook]

Like others have said, stun or whatever you can to stop the cast

It hits hard

[obsidian path]

Reading the pinned sheet with spell reflects is also great

[chilly brook]

Quazi has a video about general routes for this season, Dorki sometimes puts out tank focused m+ content. Other than that I’d just run the dungeons get a feel for it

[wanton shale]

are yall having trouble timing AV? boss fights seem to take forever, i'm only up to +13 but missed timer

[obsidian path]

It will give you an idea of the spells that hit hard

[pallid quiver]

2nd boss is always too stronk

Party always dies so I'm left to solo

[chilly brook]

I solo’d last boss of SBG from like 14% to 0 felt like an immortal man

Especially because “monk is bad”

[warm plinth]

monk is bad

😏

[wanton shale]

yea we spent so much time on the illusions the 2nd boss takes forever

[young mango]

And Break points for haste? Min it max caps after dropping of? Im on 23% feels like i have nice gear for fury

[obsidian path]

Our tank is a monk, he feels less immortal than me
Thing is, I'm bad at prot and he's good at monk

[chilly brook]

Even last week that boss took forever

[sick sentinel]

yea but hes playing monk

[chilly brook]

No

No breakpoints

[fast knot]

My guild thinks I'm good at prot

really I'm just good at surviving

[chilly brook]

Just go haste until around 40% because dr

But honestly just equip ilvl

Stop worrying about stats

[sick sentinel]

the breakpoint comes when you hit tenosynovitis

[chilly brook]

Get haste if you can

[warm plinth]

the what

[chilly brook]

Otherwise don’t worry about it

[warm plinth]

ten of seven fight us?

[sick sentinel]

the tenosynovitis

[warm plinth]

😂

[obsidian path]

That's my gripe with secondaries, you don't have much to say about what gear you get

[obsidian path]

Just take what you earn and wear ilvl, I don't have that luxury

[sick sentinel]

you guys really should do some research before start playing prot war

[obsidian path]

I play with my palm and forehead

Dw

[fast knot]

I played fury for like 12 years lol

my wrists are titanium

[fiery warren]

i got Blazing Essence 358 + 200 leech do i use it over Primal Ritual Shell ?

[chilly brook]

Monk is definitely more reliant on the healer but you also do get good self sustain once you start taking good damage. You also have so many damn CDs and tools to get you out of jail

[obsidian path]

Yeah he's making a good use of that

On the other end I pop block, ip and sometimes wall

And I'm fine-ish

[sick sentinel]

monk has 18 different cds for all kind of situations, but they always end up kiting

ez

[chilly brook]

The sketchiest part of a pull as monk is the start

[obsidian path]

Tell me, I'm a bull-ish fury war

[chilly brook]

I mean you should be fine

[obsidian path]

I wanna know how (not) to fuck a pull

[chilly brook]

Go ham

He should have enough threat lol

Im usually bursting as high as dps

[obsidian path]

He does great damage tho

[chilly brook]

Since BrM has like 7 offensive CDs

[sick sentinel]

7 offensive CDs, like 5 of them do 2% overall dam each

[chilly brook]

Nah

Only one that doesn’t do that much is Dave

[obsidian path]

Like the singer ?

[sick sentinel]

idk i played brew last season

[wanton shale]

I only tried BM for a little bit when testing out which tank to play for DF and it felt by far the hardest so I dropped it lol

[sick sentinel]

then i logged on to it like week after prepatch

and never looked back

[solar crown]

wait, so the green ring heals the boss as well? Well that would certainly be one big thing i do wrong

[chilly brook]

It’s certainly got a million buttons to press

[foggy osprey]

Hey folks. I have not found this in pins and I struggle to find a source I can trust: is there a sort of tier list of trinkets for prot war for raid and m+ ?

[young mango]

Running tjs give me flashbacks, back when monk was s tier and dps were Not needed

I miss vengance

[humble ferry]

Timer is way too short in AV imo

[limpid anchor]

And tyr sucks

[humble ferry]

Hope they add extra minutes to AV just like they did to DoS

Even when doing gigapulls before 3rd boss timer is just so tight

[young mango]

Av 3rd boss is the aoe based on% hp or does it have a timer?

[somber sky]

hey guys

is it possible to spell block on tree boss of algethar academy?

[compact jackal]

+12 tree is kind of insane wtf

[wanton shale]

not sure about that but there are a few discussions about tree boss not far up this chat. I don't think that's the key in beating him

[compact jackal]

that, or the fact the 2 ranged were in Africa and I was outdpsing everyone on adds and 2nd on boss

[wanton shale]

it's more about how you handle the adds cycles and ancient branch than spell blocking

[obsidian path]

Stagger offensive cooldowns on adds

[eager canyon]

I save ravager + roar for add phases

[obsidian path]

It's also a dps responsability not to all 3 pop cds on the first pack

[west vigil]

Hey guys, do you know anything about [Battle-Scarred Veteran] is bugged?

[somber sky]

if one pops cds on pull, they should get it up for 4th pad phase

[wanton shale]

if ur group doesn't help by running to center to group up adds, it's just really hard to keep up with them cuz a handful gets leftover from each add phase and they eventually overwhelm the group

[spice axle]

any expert knows if 392 cloak with leech is better than 395 of same cloak without leech?

[somber sky]

leech do big succ

392 > imo :v

[eager canyon]

the 392 clock with leech will have more total stats than the 395 right?

[somber sky]

yeah def

[spice axle]

yea but strength is important as well i guess

[eager canyon]

the difference wouldn't be big enough, I'd say 392 with leech

[spice axle]

what's big succ

[eager canyon]

big succ i think is a good thing in this instance

big succ life

[spice axle]

k

[somber sky]

k

[edgy spear]

You mean the big aoe where you stand in the shield? Timer

[brave portal]

The big ancient tree boss is a bastard, pardon my French. Don't pop any CD on first add phase, just get them killed ASAP. It's doable. The Branch he spawns is the key imo. Kick the heal, dps it down and make sure your all ready for the greenish circle he leaves behind when he's dead. That cleanses the debuff you get. Then 2nd add spawn with germinate you pop cds

[cinder storm]

Ran 5 Cos, saw ring drop in 3

[long stone]

VoI normal - endboss, when do you use BL ? Secondphase To get the shield down or Last Phase ?

[limpid anchor]

The bark split isn’t the issue tho

Also, don’t forget that the green circle heals the adds aswell

[sick sentinel]

we lusted last phase

its a 2 lusts fight

[long stone]

So Lust at Start and at Phase 3 or what

[limpid anchor]

What shield? The one in p2 with the + -?

[sick sentinel]

yea lust open then p3

[limpid anchor]

You lust on pull

[sick sentinel]

p2 shield was never an issue for us and we were like 37x ilvl

just save some cd for it i guess

[long stone]

So BL pull - Phase 3 Enter BL

Yeah

[pliant sail]

So with blood and thunder is there a reason to ever press rend?

[pallid quiver]

no

Don't even put it on your bars

[pliant sail]

Thanks. I figured that but wasn’t sure since it only applies rend to 5 targets.

[pallid quiver]

It's supposed to be smart every time you press T Clap and refresh/spread to the proper targets

[pliant sail]

Gotcha. I main rogue and I was assuming it behaved like replicating shadows and was based on proximity.

Thanks for that info

[snow robin]

pog or not pog?

[pliant sail]

I feel like that’s pretty damn good.

But I don’t know a lot yet lmao

[snow robin]

Yeah I wonder how often it procs..

15k for 1400 haste

Upgrade from 376 Horn

[main silo]

got it yesterday on my dk, can check my logs

[pliant sail]

Yeah I feel like if it procs at least once a minute or every 90 seconds that’s pretty good

I dropped it on my rogue lmao it would almost one shot me

[snow robin]

I'll prolly use it for fury too lol

[main silo]

it procced 12 times for me in a 5 min encounter, giving me 45% uptime

[snow robin]

Dang

[pliant sail]

Yeah that seems really good

[snow robin]

I'm gonna be sonic

[main silo]

but in a 3 min encounter i had 3 procs, 20% uptime

[night bobcat]

/n

[main silo]

interesting is that it proced b2b and b2b2b, so it seems to have a weird RPPM and no internal cooldown

[edgy spear]

Wowhead says 2 ppm, which would be about 50% uptime

[main silo]

sounds correct

[solar blade]

ive got that trinket 395 with leech

[main silo]

ohh does it proc leech on self damage tho? that would be cool lmao

[solar blade]

no i recieved it from worldboss with leech on it like 240 or so

[brave portal]

Can always a potion too, can't remember the name that some tanks use. It has a dot portion too. To kill adds quicker.

[solar blade]

quick question: does haste increase the tickrate of our bleeds?

[heavy temple]

i dunno how to kite the orbs for azure vault endboss

is there like a safespot where they dont go

kiting withbreath is kinda grief

[deft vessel]

no, and the orbs should be eaten by the group and/or puddles made at edges

functionally, if boss stays in middle, you can handle all orbs

[heavy temple]

the puddles should be eaten?

[deft vessel]

no

there's two sets of orbs

one that leaves puddles behind, and one that doesn't

both of them need to be triggered by players , the first set need to be eaten, one per player, and the second set (that leave puddles behind) should ideally be popped in nice spots, i.e. shortly after they spawn (they always spawn in static locations around the arena)

[heavy temple]

the orbs that follow people cna be deactivated?

i am so confused right now, i thought you just had to kite those

at endboss

[deft vessel]

wait, end boss of academy?

[heavy temple]

vault

[edgy spear]

He said AV

[deft vessel]

ah

i haven't had coffee, ignore me

no, those you kite

lol

[heavy temple]

xD

[deft vessel]

I thought you meant the elemental dude in academy

lol

[neon elk]

Those orb in AV are group dependant, they chase whoever has the highest healing agro, so in theory, if u dont wanna be chased, just play poorly so your healer has to heal you and then he will be chased , ezpz xd

[deft vessel]

hm, I thought it's just highest aggro, i.e. tank mechanic

but dunno

[brave portal]

It's difficult to be fair, the end AV boss. If you have a warlock you can use gated mechanics to move, also the stacks that debuff your speed take 10 seconds of standing still. Heroic leap is good to get out of really bad orb displacement. Imo. I've done it easily once and it's been a slog the rest. Even watching other tanks of YT, its kinda scuffed.

I'm sure it's highest healing aggro

[deft vessel]

fair

but yeah, it's a painful mechanic, I don't even know where it was early on, something they added with the fixes to the boss I guess ?

[rain adder]

are crafting orders down for you guys as well?

[deft vessel]

or something I just didn't see before cus easy content

[brave portal]

Tank him at a wall, make sure all crystals are dpsed down and pray.

[neon elk]

Use charge to far crystals then leap other way around etc, but in general, its pain in ass

Having a pala for hof is a gift there

[brave portal]

Could also spec into intervene too

Just to move around easier

[fair stump]

Lariat bis to use sparks on? Or should I craft a weapon

[main silo]

Does anyone know what the RPPM of Unstable Frostfire Belt is? or just a hum about it

[heavy temple]

its just they slow down, so I can kite one, but if there are like 3 from different directions it gets yikes

[edgy spear]

3 ppm per wowhead

If you find the item on wowhead and hover mouse over the effect, the ppm is shown on tooltip

[snow robin]

Anyone have a WA for halls of valor first boss?>

[tardy sequoia]

A death knight put need on this item and won the loot, was I basically ninjalooted?

[mortal brook]

Looks like gear a death knight could wear

What's the issue

[tardy sequoia]

I mean my guild told me not to put need on it

Because critical strike is blood dk main stat

[mortal brook]

Well that's completely different isn't it

[tardy sequoia]

And they told me item level upgrade is not allowed in my guild

Sounds like bullshitting

[mortal brook]

Sounds like your guild is shit and you should move on

[tardy sequoia]

I could put need if an item has haste as main stat in it

[mortal brook]

But no, Guild atmosphere isnt reportable ninja looting

[warm plinth]

That is...a weird way to min/max loot 🤔

Like I could understand if it was like a bigger sim difference or something, but just being like oh this is their main stat is just weird

[mortal brook]

Over normal non tier

Kek

[jade pulsar]

what do u need a WA for?

[obsidian path]

Take ilvl upgrades, make up for gaps in stats with different gems

But first, have a discution with your guild or find another one

[mortal brook]

It's not ninja looting but it sure is stupid

[tardy sequoia]

Thing is I put need after the discussion and won the loot

But the Dk was like hey that’s mine!

[obsidian path]

Nope

Roll better next time

I could understand a bit of discution on ringd for example

But it isn't like wotlk and you roll a haste-heavy item on a fury war

You get most of all secondaries

It's not like fury is 100% haste and dk 100% crit, roll ilvl upgrades

[obsidian path]

Is a great conclusion

[cerulean nymph]

What order of altars are you lot doing for Kurog's fight?

[long stone]

Fire ice Earth air

[steady steppe]

Moon

[long stone]

Or what the Last shit is called 😂😂😂

[cerulean nymph]

Fair enough, thanks.

[warm plinth]

Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, Heart

[limpid anchor]

Storm earth ice fire

It’s nice that everyone does a different order :D

[long stone]

Captain grimtotem ? 🤔

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/3OOn.gif

[cerulean nymph]

And how many stacks do you usually take per altar? On heroic, that is.

[humble ferry]

Is there an updated SR spreadsheet

[lusty grotto]

the pinned one is usually updated

or if you feel there's something missing PM Sense

[tacit haven]

sooo... anyone planning on making a helper WA with that spreadsheet? 🙂

[lusty grotto]

no

that spreadsheet has been a spreadsheet since legion

just learn what you need to do

[tacit haven]

aight

[bitter parrot]

where can i find bis embellishments?

[lusty grotto]

in the auction house

or crafted automatically with certain items

[hard timber]

Workorders for anyone working on eu?

or is it just some servers down

[tacit haven]

I think they’re disabled globally.

[hard timber]

OH

btw what do u guys prefer in phials? The one that gives mainstat when mobs hit u or glacial fury?

[olive steeple]

Can you do work orders across servers?

[jagged ferry]

Whats the shield calle dthat we craft?

[remote hawk]

Soo what do we wanna throw our valor points into ?`Got my shield from Azure vaults now.

[rain adder]

No

[jagged ferry]

Is it shield of hearth?

[lusty grotto]

absoutely not

[jagged ferry]

I cant see it in Pins

[craggy pilot]

so what do we think about Razs Mythic? when is he going down? 400+ pulls?

[mellow quartz]

When his hp reaches 0 probably.

[hazy sluice]

Wasn't there like a site where u can paste a warcraft log from m+ run and it sums u up what u did wrong and how to improve it ? Remember it for a few specs in shadowlands

Blood mallet?

[craggy pilot]

i only know wowanalyzer, but dunno if that works for M+ 🤔

[hazy sluice]

Ah I think that was the site

[lusty grotto]

its also not currently supported for prot

which means its not updated

[jagged ferry]

Lads which shield do we craft?

[hazy sluice]

How do u guys log m+ runs ? Just warcraftlogs or is there a better way to just keep it logging and it tracks all runs in segments ?

[lusty grotto]

dbm