protection

[compact jackal]

Does the primal infusion set work in raid?

[sand marsh]

do we still want to use our sparks on Lariat > 1h wep?

[sick sentinel]

Well the lariat procs depending on the type of gem you have, not the stats

So this is mine, and it procs vers

[vital oak]

right, and you can have 1 of each element proc independantly

also, in there, the illimited gem won't proc, it's not considered elemental

[compact jackal]

1776 crit, 3815 haste, 2579 vers, 384 mastery

I do believe I might want less haste.

[jagged pier]

nope

[compact jackal]

I'm fine to continue this haste/crit/vers and FUCK mastery setup?

[jagged pier]

u want as much haste as possible

theres no point where u dont want haste

[compact jackal]

if this works in raid/dungeon I wonder what 2 pieces I want to keep

[rough egret]

But those are 385 right?

[inner halo]

Is the trinket Battle Scarred Scale worth it at all? I got it in the vault, and other 2 options aren't great, but not sure I would even use the trinket over what I have currently.

[compact jackal]

385x2, but +340 seems strong

[short plover]

open vault as prot or fury?

[rough egret]

340 secondary will not beat strength from 2 415 items dor example

[gloomy turret]

ive been using the Battle Scarred Scale as its the only defensive trinket i have.

its been doing about 4-5% of my over all heals

[lusty narwhal]

@vital oak pretty sure it would proc 1 effect at a time at 2 procs per minute, so if you just wanted to focus on a main proc you prob wouldn't do multiple elements

[rough egret]

But probably sim 🙂

[plain saffron]

whats more important - weapon or shield?

[vital oak]

I need to test but i'm pretty sure i'm getting ~2ppm on each gem

[rough egret]

Shield for def weap for off

[lusty narwhal]

@vital oak sure I could be wrong I'd be happy to be wrong if the embellishment was that op so @ me after you test it

[sweet summit]

it does, not sure if that gets changed with the reset tho

(in raids at least)

belt+wrists prob best for that set since they are some of the lowest budget slots

[soft robin]

So I need help I cannot decide between the sheild the Trinket or the Tier set

[vital oak]

I believe I was mistaken and it is 2 ppm overall, selecting from any of the elemental gems. Glad I learned something.

[thin ridge]

im new to wow, i have all sorts of crafting someone call me plz and hold my hand through all this crafting shi.(i wear a helmet)

[sturdy sable]

Your best bet would probably be watching YouTube vids on the matter @thin ridge

[tropic magnet]

I have a Seal of Duirna, with Ritual Shell on fire and blazing trinket. I have my lariat already. Can’t decide if I wanna craft the PvP helm or Unstable frostire belt. Thoughts?

[lusty narwhal]

@vital oak damn was hoping I was wrong xD

[patent hull]

What's the best keys to push this week

[crude notch]

Hello there's nothing in my vault, what do I take

[mellow quartz]

Same as any other week probably. SMBG.

[patent hull]

Do boss minions proc Bursting/Grievous?

[mellow quartz]

Usually not

[warm plinth]

No

[neon elk]

Is there actualy dungeon thats easier with tyra compared to last fort week? Xd

[mellow quartz]

Depends on key level

[warm plinth]

RLP probably easier and harder at the same time 😂

[neon elk]

Like 13-15s

[mellow quartz]

Well they nerfed RLP bosses so should be easier.

Smbg is by far the easiest dungeon

COS last boss will be hard this week.

[last pebble]

any talent changes for tyrannical?

maybe juggernaut?

[snow robin]

My talent change will be from prot to fury 4head

[neon elk]

Yea smbg is joke, idk how they let it go live like that compared to rest

Or better, how they let rest go compared to smbg

[uncut dome]

is cobalt ring worth it btw?

[ebon wren]

yes

[uncut dome]

god dammit

[strong forum]

nop

[ebon wren]

Is there a good website like TankNotes for learning all the mythic bosses as a tank? I really dont want to watch youtube hoping there's a good written site.

[onyx sandal]

Hi all, would appreciate your thoughts on loot choice for GV

currently have 392 shoulders so 398 tier would be an upgrade, but my only tier

[strong forum]

wait to reclear raid

[onyx sandal]

Therefore I'm thinking of taking the 415 ring since it's one of our BiS and it would upgrade a 389 ring

[strong forum]

check what you get

[onyx sandal]

and if I most likely won't raid?

[strong forum]

probably helmet

[onyx sandal]

I've got a 402 helm

[last pebble]

tier always

[strong forum]

if you never ever wont touch raid again

[thin ridge]

should i raid again before picking?

[strong forum]

then probably shoulders

[strong forum]

yeah same story

youd hate yourself picking tierlegs, and then clear raid and get legs again

[chilly brook]

Yknow I’ll take it since I was able to solo the last boss after everyone died to time the key

[thin ridge]

but the shoulders ilvl are so much higher than what drops in raid

[jagged pier]

if u raid u should always wait for u to raid to choose vault

[chilly brook]

Nah

Just do the dungeons

[strong forum]

check the dungeons by highest key timed

[chilly brook]

If I had to guess Temple will probably end up being one of the harder ones

Because last boss

But then again I think it caught nerfs

So who knows

[strong forum]

thats not all keys

[bright lion]

Doesn't seem like sims are accurate for it yet, how does Static-Charged Scale stack up with other trinkets? Possibly replacing 389 Decoration of Flame

[strong forum]

thats keys of that new week

[strong forum]

sims are fairly accurate

[graceful granite]

This week's affix combo is just... sadistic

Blizzard really hates healers

[strong forum]

but i guess not for that specific trinket

but its 2ppm on 1.5k haste

so its ~50% uptime

thats SUPER good

[bright lion]

Yeah I meant specifically the trinket

Okay that's what I was thinking

but in the back of my mind like "no way wb loot is allowed to be good"

[strong forum]

new xpac, everything is possible

[uneven mason]

So like I got that bag trinket and it gives me 2400str for 15s on a 1m cd

[chilly brook]

Last weeks wasn’t great either

[strong forum]

its random what it give you each time

it can proc any trinket

[gloomy turret]

How is hoof as a trinket for us?

[chilly brook]

Usually I wouldn’t cry too much about quaking but quaking plus new seasonal affix is troll

[uneven mason]

Ah I've been getting lucky

[lusty narwhal]

ring/tier chest or shoulders? right now im currently using 2 piece of the 259 shoulders/chest from the storm currency that give 259 stat.. my rings are 392 and 385, but i could invest in the frost fire belt to proc the ring?

so idk what i should choose

[chilly brook]

Should have yes

[gloomy turret]

They did for sure

Ruby felt... amazing compared to last week

[strong forum]

clear raid again, see what you get, and re-evaluate vault

[uneven mason]

Just means DPS will kick less

[lusty narwhal]

@strong forum What should i be looking for to make my decision

[strong forum]

see if you get more tierpieces from raid

and any of the trinkets

theyre all good

[lusty narwhal]

if i dont get a 2nd tier piece would i go ring or what?

[chilly brook]

What is the ring

Stat wise

What rings do you have

[lusty narwhal]

sec ill ss

[chilly brook]

Gotta do some thinking on your own brother

[graceful granite]

Quaking/Raging is infinitely less painful on healers than grievous/bursting.

With the exception of a few ads in the dungeons being pushed into raging range and nuking the whole party (like the storm casters in Ruby), raging really only hit the tank - and us as warriors just giggled at that

Quaking is just... don't stack and cancel casts so you don't get locked out

[chilly brook]

Not on healers

But it’s a troll combo with the affix

Thundering

[graceful granite]

That's why you immediately drop thundering during quaking week

[chilly brook]

I doubt you giggled at raging dark claw casts

[graceful granite]

instead of holding it for some dps/hps

[gloomy turret]

Lmao @ this

[chilly brook]

It’s the truth

Trucks without raging

[graceful granite]

Which ad was that?

[chilly brook]

One of the Sha adds in temple

[icy lintel]

Hey folks, I've been gearing up fury and wanted to know if I could slap on a sword and shield and tank m+ using my fury set

[chilly brook]

Melee magic hit

[graceful granite]

If they were the ones I could just stun, that's what happened to them

if they were the ones I couldn't, I kited them

[chilly brook]

Kiting for 30 seconds or more is fun

[graceful granite]

Raging was a bigger issue with ads that could ignore threat tables (like the mana wyrms) or did AoE damage.

[chilly brook]

I can’t believe blizz didn’t touch those mobs with this dungeon tuning

Especially the last pack before the last boss of temple

Literally a “lemme just establish aggro and then dip” pack

[uncut dome]

What is our crafting items? Coiuldnt see it in the pins

[chilly brook]

Didn’t look hard enough

[uncut dome]

brb

[naive osprey]

any suggestions on what I should take here? leaning towards the wrists purely because of the gem slot.. Shield is pretty tempting though

[uncut dome]

Thanks

[chilly brook]

Tf always shield

[uncut dome]

But no craft weapon?

[chilly brook]

Fuck the socket

[crude spruce]

weapon here right lol

[craggy pilot]

how is a grp supposed to survive the Thunderstorm on 2nd boss Nokhud? 🤔

[naive osprey]

thinking i could just craft a shield maybe?

[crude spruce]

or is tier gear like mondo good

[chilly brook]

Just take the shield

It’s literally the most important piece of gear you can upgrade

[naive osprey]

yeah right fair enough

[chilly brook]

I mean honestly I’d go highest ilvl chest over weapon or maybe tier piece assuming it gets you a tier set bonus. But run raid or something to see if you get tier before choosing

[crude spruce]

oh yeah i can hold this vault all week

sick

[bright citrus]

So do you guys think the haste trinket from the world boss is better than 372 hoof?

[strong forum]

yes

[snow robin]

I hope prices drop this week.. I want dat dere lariat and belt

[chilly brook]

Lariat wasn’t very expensive to craft

Like probably spent less than 30k

Doing the weekly help factions out thing gets you like 15k itself

[snow robin]

What rank did you get?

I swear I did some rough calcs and the total would be like near 100k

Thats a lot for me and I still not sure if I'll main prot

[edgy grail]

Just gotta server transfer

To Tich

And get lariat for free

[craggy pilot]

how do people handle the storm boss Nokhud?

i was picking orbs with Spell Reflect blocking the wind surge whenever i could before Lightning soaks too many of the orbs, and then i picked up some orbs during the Thunderstorm, but the rest of the orbs is just DPS/healer problem or am i wrong?

[last pebble]

do you have to do something to use thje whispering incarnate trinket?

[inner tartan]

Hello guys, im new to prot warrior, what should i craft for first item? Im only 352 ilvl

[last pebble]

nvm nvm

[versed matrix]

so how exactly does valor cap work?

should I spend down to 0 each week to earn the max amount?

[craggy pilot]

seemingly the long term choice is Lariat, but other than that you can craft any high ilvl upgrade depending on your gear (maybe not in tier slot if you are raider)

[vital oak]

it's a running total

[craggy pilot]

no, the total increases

[vital oak]

so you can use up to 2250 this week

[versed matrix]

gotcha

does that include bonus valor for increasing someone's IO?

[vital oak]

yup

[versed matrix]

so basically just hold valor until I get a bis trinket or weapon

and I lose absolutely nothing?

because if so, that's pretty nice

[sick sentinel]

ya'll ready for some 75m hp bosses this weewk

[chilly brook]

Def spent way less than 100k

[mellow quartz]

Usually people spread out around the boss and plays defense and picks up the ones in their ‘area’. The healer needs to make sure he has a lot of stacks going into the aoe phase to be able to heal everyone.

Vers sockets?

[mighty valley]

don't let dps steal all the orbs from the healer, they gotta pump

[chilly brook]

Look at spec, also using diff gems now

[deft socket]

Do I go Tier Legs, Ruby trinket, or shield? I currently have 372 shield, 376 blazebinder hoof, and 372 irideus fragment for trinkets. Legs are 372 as well

[mellow quartz]

Filthy green

[craggy pilot]

yea ok, so when we wipe every time during the thunderstorm its not really me making mistakes, thx :/

was in a weekly +17 for 1hr+, and we never got down the 2nd boss

[bright citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[chilly brook]

Plenty of JCs who are crafting for no charge as well

[mellow quartz]

It’s Tyr and grievous on NA. That boss will be hard.

[chilly brook]

Still tipped mine like 25k

[craggy pilot]

shield sounds quite huge, if you dont have crafted shield incomming

[chilly brook]

But for mats I probably spent 30k or less

[errant birch]

still waiting on my vault for a juicey +19 key

[full violet]

I did an TJS 18 for Vault. Only took 80min and 122 deaths kekw

[errant birch]

xDDD

"Only"

[mighty valley]

be kind to your healers this week, they're gonna be sad in keys. tell them you're in defensive stance to make them feel better (don't actually be in defensive stance)

[south zealot]

just get priests

[errant birch]

wait we dont just pull the entire dung?

[inner tartan]

When doing dungeons, should i be in defensive stance or the other one?

[reef creek]

slaved away for the +20 and still just gonna take 415 tier

[mellow quartz]

Depends on if you are dying or not if you play in bstance.

[errant birch]

i better get a tier piece or a big ass trink

[mighty valley]

start in battle stance and use defensive stance as a CD for dangerous packs/tankbusters

[inner tartan]

Oh ok, I have been using it always lol

[chilly brook]

For the next person coming in here to ask about what they should take in vault.

Shield>tier if completes set>highest ilvl big armor piece/high ilvl goated trinket>Jewelry/weapon>small armor piece

run raid before picking a tier piece to see if it or another piece drops

Oh and of course if you still can’t decide

Sim it

[south zealot]

or pick leech everytime u see it

[chilly brook]

Or something

[sweet summit]

Dstance is a defensive "cooldown"

[mellow quartz]

I would grab a weapon much earlier in that prio order

[chilly brook]

Weapon is nice

But uhhh

You’re gonna get more stats out of big armor pieces

[mellow quartz]

More damage from weapon

[chilly brook]

And a goated trinket is going to be more useful

Yea more damage

But not as much practical usage in terms of making your life generally easier in content this early on

[mighty valley]

weapons are also largely all the same, whereas if you see one of the good trinkets, snap it up

[chilly brook]

Which is something a good trinket or a high budget armor piece will do

[wide vapor]

You don't need survivability if what you're fighting is already dead

[mellow quartz]

Also why only tier if it completes set? That doesn’t make sense.

[chilly brook]

It does make sense

[mellow quartz]

Not if vault is your only tier source until 5 weeks from now.

[tender quartz]

Spiteful Storm Raszageht Trinket any good for us?

M+ / Raid?

[chilly brook]

Brother

[uncut dome]

In shadowmoon i lkegit fucking hate slash

Holy shit that hurts

[mighty valley]

if you're doing no raid at all, sure, i'd prioritize tier from vault a bit higher

[chilly brook]

If your choice is like a 390 tier piece

[mellow quartz]

Use CDs?

[chilly brook]

And a 415 in the same slot that’s not tier…..

[uncut dome]

Aye

[chilly brook]

The only way the tier makes sense is if it completes a set

[mellow quartz]

No one is saying take a super low ilvl piece. Talking equal ilvl

[mighty valley]

well... i presume it's just ultra obvious to take tier over non tier at same ilvl

[mellow quartz]

He said only if it completes set

[chilly brook]

^

[gritty swallow]

Also tbh giving tank tier pieces in raid before dps is kind of trolling would rather get a for sure piece than wait 3 weeks until everyone else gets their 2pc

[sick sentinel]

i got that horrible bag trinket from a WQ gives you random buff out of list of like, i dunno, 20 buffs, first buff it gives me "regen mana and get mastery"

[mighty valley]

reading between the lines, it's saying "might wanna take a lower ilvl tier piece if it completes set"

[sick sentinel]

hooray.... at least its only 1 minute cd and its ilvl for now....

[chilly brook]

Tier also falls into “high ilvl armor pieces”

[mighty valley]

i imagine griff is also looking at it through the lens of "what makes me most powerful this week"

which makes sense since barely any of us are crushing mythic raid and 20s any time soon

[chilly brook]

^

[mighty valley]

so making long term bis decisions aren't realistically on the table

[mellow quartz]

I wouldn’t grab a low level tier piece even if it completes a 2 set

[chilly brook]

That’s a cap

[mellow quartz]

Vault is my long term gain

not short term shit

[chilly brook]

Oh really is it?

Because tier is usually pretty huge gain

[mellow quartz]

Tier is nice it’s not crazy big.

[grave wedge]

402 ring or 392 weapon, weapon and spend the valor right?

[edgy grail]

Vault is whatever tf you want it to be

[chilly brook]

And you’re not guaranteed tier from raid

[south zealot]

we already have our 4set x3 in a talent

[mighty valley]

personally i'd suggest taking whatever from the vault is gonna help make next week's vault bigger

[edgy grail]

Some people care about completing the raid asap, others about having bis at the end of the season

[mellow quartz]

I don’t raid at all 🤷‍♂️

[edgy grail]

Exactly

M+ and pvpers care about gear at the end of the season bc that is when it ends

[mellow quartz]

I care abt long term gains for pushing keys.

[edgy grail]

Raiders care about the start since you want higher rankings

[urban portal]

i think this week its fine to take short term gains

because 20s are basically impossible otherwise

[chilly brook]

Wait wait wait

[edgy grail]

Should be able to do 20s this week

[mellow quartz]

Not really

[urban portal]

still gonna be tough

[edgy grail]

With a bit more gear and another raid clear

[mighty valley]

guessing there will be some pretty tough wall bosses this week

[errant birch]

currently hovering around 1700 rio

[chilly brook]

Man is complaining about where I said I put tier, and then says he doesn’t really care about tier

[vital oak]

poor healers this week, gonna be tough

[chilly brook]

[bold turret]

With the right keys 20s will be ok

[urban portal]

its also tyrannical

[south zealot]

just take priests

its really not a big deal

[orchid mural]

hoping someone can give perspective - (I raid AOTC and M+ alot ).
Got this trink that is rated pretty good, but also a weap that is BIS stats (haste/vers).
Thoughts?

[edgy grail]

Yea just depends

[mighty valley]

i'd probably go trinket? weapon stats don't matter that much

[urban portal]

weapon stats dont matter

[edgy grail]

There are currently less than 200 timed 20s

[urban portal]

1h weapons give so little stats

[mellow quartz]

I said it doesn’t make sense to only have it their if it completes a set. I then said I wouldn’t pick a LOW LEVEL tier piece over something with long term gains. Read pls.

[rain adder]

Can’t you have a 418 weapon with spark and shit

@orchid mural

[edgy grail]

Yes

[sharp bone]

you can also craft a decent weap at 405(or 418), compared to not being able to "craft a decent trinket"

[edgy grail]

That’s what Im making next week

[noble loom]

hey guys, what do you think i should get from great vault? 408 spellbane cutlass replacing 385 version? or 405 seal of filial duty(fire damage proc pops a shield) and that will replace a 382 ring to go with my cobalt ring

[chilly brook]

[edgy grail]

Easy

[mellow quartz]

My sparks atm are wrists and will be neck

[sharp bone]

pretty sure cobalt ring doesnt get replaced by anything unnerfed

[noble loom]

so get the cobalt ring and stack it with the raid ring that gives a shield as well? @sharp bone

i'll just have to craft the belt to make it worth it i reckon

[wooden widget]

With 4 set, am I only pressing ignore pain to keep from capping rage?

[thorn palm]

hello guys. just need help on which to pick on my vault, Whisper Incarnate icon or 2set pc?? thank you guys

[south zealot]

with 0 set you are only pressing ignore pain to keep from capping rage

[wooden widget]

I find I have to use it at the beginning of pulls

With 0 set

[south zealot]

it would be the exact same with 4 set

use it if you need it

[wooden widget]

Yeah but if I can revenge to get it rolling instead? Seems like a two birds one button situation

I only have 1 pc rn so I can’t test anything

[south zealot]

5% revenge damage will get broken immediately

[wooden widget]

Oh fuck it’s only 5% of revenge dmg. I thought all dmg.

Ty

[sharp bone]

if you wanna go full defencive sure, most play the dps cobalt ring regardless

[urban portal]

its all damage

[silk vale]

what embellishment is best for shield?

[south zealot]

oh

yes 5% of all

mb

[silk vale]

ty

[urban portal]

its all damage but its still not a lot

[wooden widget]

And pressing revenant again just sets up a new IP?

[urban portal]

yes

well technically all damage sets new IP

for 4 seconds after you press revenge

[wooden widget]

Gotcha ty all

[heady stratus]

this ring is good?

[vestal torrent]

do warriors have a way to deal fire dmg?

[vital oak]

trinket

[silk vale]

trink?

[vestal torrent]

what's the chance on the ring to proc with the fire dmg?

[hard island]

Decoration of Flame

[heady stratus]

yaeh, I have the trincket too

[vestal torrent]

couldnt imagine the proc chance being that high

[wary heath]

that's a 2 min cooldown

don'

[vivid orchid]

frostfire belt procs are another way

[wary heath]

don't get the ring purely for that lol

if that's what you're considering

[fast knot]

I think belt is only real decent way to proc

Since we won't have Forgestorm

[thorn palm]

Whispering Incarnate Icon or 2pc set?? which weights more?

[tulip kelp]

Is the stamina / str enchant for leg a lot better then the armor / str one? The frosted is like 1/5th the price of the fierce

[clear tulip]

Ayee guys!! About to switch from Prot pally to Prot warrior, I like the pally's range mostly. How is the warrior compared? I've been on icey veins & wowhead but I wana hear from a main!

[south zealot]

warrior has 0 range

[chilly brook]

With 4 set nothing should really change

[south zealot]

do they give equal strength

[loud patrol]

lmao

[clear tulip]

Lmaoo less than Brew??

[loud patrol]

server

[south zealot]

yes

by far

[chilly brook]

You should always be using IP to not cap

Regardless of tier or not

[dense sundial]

[Static-Charged Scale] any thoughts on this trinket it drops from WB, static str, 1400 haste, damages you for 15k

[tulip kelp]

Yeah.. both 177str.. so its 105sta vs 141 armor.. is the stamina worth an extra 25K?

[crimson mural]

which embelishment is bis for prot war?

[south zealot]

armor is better imo

[crimson mural]

aside the neck

[tulip kelp]

That's what I thought, all the guides say stamina tho.. weird

[chilly brook]

I can keg smash outside of melee as well as a few other things

[grim berry]

hey there, is the kurog tank trinket good on Pwar ?

[chilly brook]

Warrior has heroic throw

[tulip kelp]

Prot should have titanic throw baseline

[dense sundial]

thanks @astral atlas

[slim dove]

3 bricked 12s in a row

[toxic pewter]

My Vulpera has 40 yard instant ability it's bis

[slim dove]

tyrannical :

[chilly brook]

Heroic titanic same thing

[clear tulip]

Not the worst adjustment, I noticed the Warr has better movement than pally, is that true?

[mighty valley]

i really don't want to always have titanic throw lmao

[south zealot]

sometimes yes sometimes no

[south zealot]

disagree

[toxic pewter]

anyone on area 52 get world server down

[ebon wren]

it will hit CC

[vital jay]

im coming back to wow and iwanna tank, was thnking between Prot Warr and Guardian Druid, gonna do mostly m+ any ideas 😄

[south zealot]

on illidan just crashed and cant log in

[toxic pewter]

yep same ok thx

[south zealot]

flip a coin

[loud patrol]

all na crashed

[tulip kelp]

Nah tich is up

[cunning viper]

did area52 die?

[toxic pewter]

just your normal tuesday on wow df NA 😄

[loud patrol]

Eonar crashed

was weird

opened my vault and crashed

[toxic pewter]

it was u

[south zealot]

[toxic pewter]

u crashed us all

thx for that

[loud patrol]

i hope it re randomize so i get better loot lmao

[clear tulip]

Thank you! Last one, the warr has a few more def cd options right?

[chilly brook]

Anything has better movement than a wheelchair

[loud patrol]

[south zealot]

crit is always more damage

[south zealot]

idk ive never played prot pally

[toxic pewter]

Once u go warr there aint goin back, so go play guardian druid or pally or whatever

and when u done with those boring specs

you know what to do

[loud patrol]

true

[last pebble]

no prot pally has more defensive cds

[loud patrol]

fuck apllys

pink class should get deleted

[chilly brook]

Does it?

[south zealot]

warrior is naturally more tanky that paladin

[chilly brook]

I mean

[south zealot]

thats pretty much all i know

[dapper yacht]

brew is more fun to play, if only it could be as tanky as other tanks

[clear tulip]

I don't think so, warr has a few options pally has 2

[chilly brook]

Like Ardent, GoAC and what else?

[fast knot]

If you use them all on yourself but let's be honest you're also a raid utility person

[chilly brook]

Unless you’re counting bubble and BoP

[clear tulip]

Lmaoo Big that's true 😆

[loud patrol]

i really wonder

are blizzard servers just so bad that they crash every now and then?

or is it on purpose?

[marsh forge]

not bad, cheap

[loud patrol]

well tell bobby to sell 1 of his 5 yatchs and get better servers for the team

[tulip kelp]

There's no option to salvage mats / spark if you crafted the wrong thing right?

[loud patrol]

no

[tulip kelp]

Didn't think so.. sadge

[marsh forge]

first world problems - not knowing which item u want to pick from GV because u know if u dont take one, u wont see it again for atleast a month

[last pebble]

Sentinel, Guardian, ardent, bubble, that other aoe damage mitigation

[mighty valley]

i mean, show me a popular online game that never ever ever has server issues

especially one that's been running for 18 years

[loud patrol]

get better servers

its a multi billion dollar company

[toxic pewter]

back in on area 52

[gritty swallow]

That’s just asking for them to increase game price

[marsh forge]

got to keep candy crush servers going for the RMT funding so we can play wow

[clear tulip]

How have you broski's enjoyed the new additions to the talent tree? Anything that stands out? I recall reading on Stances coming back or something along those lines

[toxic pewter]

ya new trees own

[twin stone]

whats the thoughts on the strike twice sword?

[lusty narwhal]

would making the primal molten sword and putting the well fed embellishment on it for my 2nd spark item be a good way to go?

[midnight stone]

I just got it out of vault, and it procced once in an entire SBG

[twin stone]

oof

[toxic pewter]

only once? dang

[twin stone]

i have it as an option in my vault but i havnt decided

[urban wolf]

Do we have any way of proccing the Raid rings other than the belt embellishment?

[elder bay]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-gif-6183644

[cinder storm]

Healers already running this week, grab one and put them in your pocket

[slim dove]

fr

boss mechs all 1 shot and grievous hurts like a mf

[west prairie]

for aoe is it best to spam revenge

[limber flame]

408 Whispers Incarnate Icon or 402 Maul of the Earthshaper

Whispers kinda pog right?

[twin stone]

on this primal ritual shell

is the mastery the best?

[naive valve]

I think it's always one of the trinkets?

[limber flame]

@twin stone fire proc

blazebinder pretty good

[zealous spade]

oof, the armor proc trinket in the first slot? Sadge

[rugged mural]

On Broodkeeper (N/H), how many of your DPS do you send to adds vs stay on boss?

[vital oak]

just enough to kill the adds before the next set spawn

Ahh, caveat, I've only killed him on normal, H/M may be different.

[topaz raptor]

should i replace this leather piece for plate? or is the armor way more important?

[vital oak]

leather bad

you want the str

[topaz raptor]

ok ty

[sweet summit]

do not ever use anything that is not plate

[rugged mural]

Not sure if you’re joking or not. But you should not ever be wearing mail/leather/cloth.

[cinder storm]

Can we wear cloth, I have a vague memory all of a sudden of tanking ML with a cloth chest by mistake

[topaz raptor]

not joking im new to the game

[sweet summit]

we can wear any armor type

but we lose 5% total strength

[cinder storm]

Ok then I def did that

[sweet summit]

and a fuckton of armor

[cinder storm]

[sweet summit]

and strength from the piece itself

[oblique garnet]

You will never do that again unless blizzard makes something dumb like corruption again

[sweet summit]

the echoing void incident

[oblique garnet]

The progress with lfr cloth legs incident

[topaz raptor]

what helm u guys think is better? from wowhead stat page looks like that haste/mastery is better for me

[cinder storm]

Ilvl first

[topaz raptor]

there the same

[viscid furnace]

Finally decided to tank my first every mythic tonight! managed to do a +2 ruby life pools in the time limit - buzzing hahaha

[cinder storm]

Haste then

[topaz raptor]

ok ty ❤️

sucks getting these good gear and just having to sell to store

😦

[oblique garnet]

[cinder storm]

I had a few friends pug a pala tank on HoV 5 and he said he always tanks the Valkyr in the middle

Needless to say they forced him to move with the dracthyr thing

[glacial pebble]

lol

[tulip kelp]

Anyone know with professions how to increase the 'skill'? Is it only through items, mats, etc? Or is it a case of the more you make that item the more skillful you are at it?

[loud patrol]

umm

you craft sstuff with orange arrows

you get skill points

repeat until max

or you mean specializations?

[compact jackal]

mats, skill, specialization, recrafting bonus

[warm plinth]

Good morning Morgan

[compact jackal]

How was your vault, Ghash?

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern hi ily

Not terrible. I got a hunger of the pack on my rogue and a big wrists upgrade on my warrior

with a socket

[compact jackal]

that's mine

[loud patrol]

why ghash doesnt wish me a good day

[warm plinth]

Good morning Calcuchimac

[sick sentinel]

im on area 52

only shit part about that server is the DC's

[loud patrol]

good morning

[sick sentinel]

potion there costs 5 gold where its 20 to 25 on my old dead server

[tulip kelp]

So making a ton of an item won't increase my chance of 3 starring it or 5 starring it or whatever right?

[vital oak]

Nope, it's "skill" 1-100 you can learn then +skill from specializations.

also +skill on prof equipment

then +skill for better ingredients

simple

[tulip kelp]

Got it, thanks

Just wasted like 20K lol

oh well

[sick sentinel]

im gunna get wow tokens soon and spend my sparks

already sitting on 2 sparks

[rugged root]

how does crafting gear work again? like i can only wear two at a time?

[compact jackal]

you can recraft it up to a bonus of like +50

[errant root]

As many as you want, only 2 can be embellished tagged though

[sick sentinel]

i might just buy like 2 or 3 wow tokens and then buy a bunch of materials and then make whatever i want

can't be that difficult to get the recipes

[rugged root]

how can you tell if its embellished again?

cause im using the lariat and the shield of the hearth

[errant root]

It will say it’s embellished, those are the bonus flavour texts

[toxic pewter]

ngl i dont enjoy tyran lol

[ionic fern]

[warm plinth]

Friendly reminder that food embellishment doesn't count as an embellishment

[compact jackal]

This is interesting.

Somehow have an illusion on it

[slim dove]

first key of the day

feels gud.

ui is a mess dont @ me

[compact jackal]

🤢

[midnight stone]

Strike Twice is funky, I guess
Full SBG: 1 proc
Full HoV: 97 procs

Might have just bugged before or something

[radiant plover]

Hi!, can I ask for an opinion? Between tier chest vs waist w/ socket, which one will you choose?

[prisma crane]

wrist

395 is easy to replace

[compact jackal]

The chest can be upgraded because it's m+

[wide charm]

in m+, what does more dam : ItF + bolster or HR ?

[prisma crane]

though that's a good point

can upgrade it

[compact jackal]

A. it can get higher

B. it saves you 5 weeks and opens up a different use early

[wise iris]

whispering incarnate vs. blazebinders? comparable ilvl. the content im most focused on is m+, and just not sure if one is a clear winner for folks.

[compact jackal]

WII is rarer at least

[wise iris]

true. is it only going to be more valuable if others have it though? in 5 man content

[onyx idol]

Is anything here worth look at vs the tier piece?

[proud dock]

wat exaclty do we spell block in rlp?

[onyx idol]

Idk the usefulness of that trinket

[sand drum]

GASH cute pic :>

and thx for that reminder :>

[loud patrol]

bro theres been a warrior fighting a guy for 2 days on my server

cuz lariat prices lmao

[sand drum]

sit back 🍿

[loud patrol]

yeah its really fun

[sick sentinel]

how does b stance vs d stance work? b stance in cds cause u have so much survivability anyway. outside of cds is it like

do i feel safe

[sand drum]

send me some screenshots in DM 😛 ?

[loud patrol]

its a warrior i wonder if its in this discord

[sick sentinel]

yes b stance no d stance

[onyx idol]

Depends a lot on the content you're doing

[loud patrol]

u wont use d stance unless some specific mechanic or dificulty

[onyx idol]

I did a 16 azure vault yesterday and took one arcane cleave in battle stance and dropped like a rock

[hardy fractal]

is disrupting shout really as bad as wowhead implies? i feel like ive encounted a few situations that it might help turn around a potential wipe

[ornate thunder]

Or it's a shaman/disc priest

[loud patrol]

i dont pick priests into my groups

[ornate thunder]

Heh

[sick sentinel]

disrupting shout can be catasrophic failure

cuz it will rarely send mobs to the moon

[compact jackal]

there's someone on my server doing em for 4k

[sick sentinel]

aggro som other pack or 4

[hardy ridge]

does chatgpt know something we don't? 👀

[compact jackal]

get enough mastery and you don't need shield block 5head

[sick sentinel]

i gotta look at boss guides for raid

[uneven mason]

Big damage loss manysad

[sick sentinel]

think the other guy wasn't taunting though, i had 12 stacks of something

[hardy fractal]

im trying to decide between that or intimidating shout for the moments when my pubbies butt pull an extra caster mob

[compact jackal]

which boss

I assume Sennarth?

[hardy fractal]

maybe even both idk

[sick sentinel]

first boss

[loud patrol]

so where do i transfer?

[compact jackal]

Stormrage. I'll even throw in a free allied wristguards of companionship 🙂

[sick sentinel]

pretty sure i had dbm or bigwigs on and it wasn't calling out to me to taunt

[loud patrol]

man i should leave deadonar

[south stirrup]

If Raidbots tells me Crit/Mast is better than Crit/Haste its because its siming the gear for dps not for tank right? (Playing Prot)

Just unsure what to choose atm

[compact jackal]

if mastery is better ask yourself this

does it feel better than haste go brrrrr?

[south stirrup]

Im to low IQ to answer haha

[uneven mason]

It's a trap

[south stirrup]

HELP!

lol

[uneven mason]

Just stay haste

[hardy fractal]

thats why i take into the fray because me taking damage is the healers problem

[cinder storm]

Yeah, haste is where its at

[rugged root]

guys idk what to do with my vault and what to craft this week lmao i play prot and fury xd

[south stirrup]

Thanks guys

❤️

[compact jackal]

just get more haste

[uneven mason]

If you take damage as prot you is a you problem

[compact jackal]

Crystal Fury's u

[hardy fractal]

it was a joke lol

[compact jackal]

There are two things in M+ that scare me.

[south stirrup]

Out of these two which one would i go for

[compact jackal]

Crystal Fury and Void Slash.

[uneven mason]

Characters without interrupts, and slutmog mechagnomes?

[wide charm]

crystal fury are pretty easy to deal with

storm bolt + shield charge + shocwave

[frozen lava]

Does anybody have a list of BIS trinkets? The guides on wowhead/icy-veins are way out of date

[wide charm]

imo the worst add is minion of doubt

[lusty narwhal]

for my 2nd spark item should i just make a sword and put like phys dmg on it?

[cinder storm]

Chest gives the most stats overall

[marsh axle]

hm.. would tier piece > all even if it's of a lower item level? for vault

[prisma crane]

it's because it's an interrupt and not a silence

[worthy haven]

I'm sure like everybody I was very excited for the first vault of the season because it's the one vault you can almost guarantee you're going to get an upgrade from, well nope

[compact jackal]

yeah but there's an issue there

that's 3 interrupts when dps are apes and hit the wrong things and don't int

[prisma crane]

oops, meant that in reply to @hardy fractal

[worthy haven]

I have the elemental lariat already and my first two choices were both next, and my third choice was a shield, and my shield was blacksmith crafted already at 402 item level

I got tokens out of the first vault of the season

[wide charm]

you still have your interrupt

[solid granite]

how many vaults did you have?

[cinder storm]

3 it seems

[solid granite]

i have 7, but only because pvp makes me angy

[blissful mason]

Friends I would love your help: 398 Tier helm vs 408 Drake Hunters Greaves. If I take tier helm guild will make me prio for 2peice during raid. (Im mainly an mplus player)

There is also a 402 Rumbling Ruby but my trinkets are already very good

[solid granite]

hmm

[south stirrup]

Got it 😄

[torpid geyser]

Is seal of filial duty any good for pwars or no?

[solid granite]

1 piece is 0 pieces, so that's a tough one

[torpid geyser]

this is from my vualt and trying to decide what I should def get but it seems that weapon is my best bet to go to for upgrading

[zealous grove]

Any idea how I get my friends list to work again?

[cinder storm]

Close Bnet

[cinder storm]

Assuming you get a 2nd piece, I don't know how good tier is but I'd still go for Ilvl

[solid granite]

You could raid, say you have a tier piece in your vault & if you dont get another, take anything else. That would be my approach

[sacred remnant]

whats bis trinks for m+?

[blissful mason]

Thanks 🙂

[sick sentinel]

emergency interupt at best, only works on up to some elites

[median niche]

Best weapon enchant as prot?

[solid granite]

the one you can afford 😄

[median niche]

no i mean frozen or sophic

[oak echo]

if you recraft an item with gems do you lose the gems or does it keep them?

[sick sentinel]

true, longer u wait the more cheaper it will become and more widely known what to use

[toxic pewter]

everything stays

[toxic gyro]

Sophic, stats are always better than dmg procs for a tank. They give you offensive and defensive boost.

[median niche]

makes sense

[ancient lantern]

could you guys help me choose from the vault? i know the chest has more ilvl, but the shoulder has vers/haste and maybe i could upgrade it? not sure if it is worth it

[loud patrol]

chest

[glacial eagle]

is there a way to sim the vault items?

[loud patrol]

look at that crit

[balmy gate]

is that from m+?

[cinder storm]

more stats on chest so chest

[ancient lantern]

yes

[balmy gate]

oh cool

[limpid anchor]

So m+ Tier is generally better than raid tier bcs higher ilvl?

Maybe my m+ grind wasn’t useless

[ancient lantern]

i'll probably go with the chest, thanks guys

i'll try to grab haste somewhere else

[loud patrol]

i mean

getting mid mythic raid gear form a +20

its easier than clearing mythic raid

cuz its easier for 5 people to coordinate than 25 people

[ancient lantern]

thats true

[balmy gate]

did anyone craft idol of the dreamer?

[glacial eagle]

thoughts on burgeoning seed?

[vital oak]

I thought Mythic was 20 peeps?

[glacial eagle]

it is, probably a typo

[vital oak]

kk, i'm a filthy casual so wasn't sure.

[edgy roost]

what would you take?

[loud patrol]

i see tier

get tier

[edgy roost]

is the trinket tempting?

or is tier just super worth getting

[balmy gate]

if you dont raid hc yea

trinket shouldnt take too long to get since its from an early boss

knock on wood

[edgy roost]

oh gotcha

makes sense to me

[lofty sapphire]

I’m still gearing out my toon and don’t have very high trinkets but this dropped for me today. Should I be wearing it ?

[slim dove]

2ppm

50% uptime basically

[sweet summit]

it's 2 rppm which is very high
looks super solid

[slim dove]

cringe af, one chance every 4 weeks

arcanocrystal

[sweet summit]

is it world boss trinket?

[slim dove]

yes

[sweet summit]

very cool thanks blizzad

[thick mauve]

Hello guys, you probably dont get these types of question often , but how do you deal with toxicity while youre doing mythic + ? I started playing pve this season and first time tanking ,achieved 1300 rating now, but i always get toxicity from others from faults i didnt even do or other did.
I just wanted to know how you're handling this, i'm even thinking of quitting tanking

[slim dove]

i blacklist them and just keep playing

if theyre especially toxic, i leave.

[lofty sapphire]

I didn’t see it on the tier list at all so I had no idea if it was good or not

[uneven mason]

I generally try and provide details on what actually happened, and if they double down on douchery I just ignore and move on. If it's mid key I just leave.

[rancid iris]

M+ only player but I am guessing that tier is trumping all

[uneven mason]

Absolutely zero personal cost to just ditching a group that's being a manged monkeys ass

[thick mauve]

thank you guys for the tips, i'll just start ignoring players then

i started even being afraid of doing keys, and sometimes i'm even questionning myself if im doing things wrong

[slim dove]

This week is mostly a healer check

So dont be surprised if a 11 feels harder than the 13 you just did

[dull frost]

Cape is a haste/vers cape. any thoughts to take that? Or we prioritise our tier first?

[hardy snow]

tier first

[eternal current]

I feel like most tanks play multiple tanks so I’ll just ask this here:

What Tank do you think gives you the most visceral feeling? Like where you feel your abilities when you use them. If that makes sense. Like VDH to me, especially with Soul Bomb, I don’t really feel like my abilities are having an impact when I use them. Does that make any sense? Lol

[dull frost]

I can wait till after raid and decide on vault yeah?

itll still clock in the kills?

[cinder storm]

Thunderclap, best visual/sound ability of all tanks, not so hot in the dmg department

[uneven mason]

I mean, Warrior's are heavy metal incarnate?

You're bitch slapping mobs with a metal plate the size of a Suburban door, while stomping and causing explosive shockwaves and calling down thunder with the power of your voice

[cinder storm]

Voice? I thought my butt cheeks clenched so hard that...you know, nevermind, its the power of your voice

[loud patrol]

man i stomp so hard thunder comes

[mighty valley]

Warrior 100%, main reason I haven't bothered with other tanks

[lyric geode]

[loud patrol]

nah ravager sucks against the feel of thunderclap

specially with the glyph

[cinder storm]

Right

[uneven mason]

Paladins are windchimes with christmas lights.
Deathknights are like the emo rock from the early 00s, they want to be metal, but endup just seeming sad most of the time and making a mess.
Demon Hunters like to put glows on their mom's honda civic, while singing along to nickleback.
Monks are Kpop, you know you shouldn't enjoy it, but it's a guilty pleasure.

Bears, bear's are our angry kin, it's that tribal drum music you can really dig, it's metal but different.

[loud patrol]

tribal metal

and i feel targeted with the monk one :c

[uneven mason]

🤷

I enjoy me some BRM even though they're just so bouncy

[marble cipher]

would the panda 100% food buff stack with the 100% food buff embellishment?

[loud patrol]

i dotn think so

but the embellishment also keeps ur food buff after death

[marble cipher]

true

[torpid geyser]

No tier but should I take the weapon since its upgradable to 415 if maxed out later.

[balmy gate]

if you're going to upgrade a m+ wep with valor you want the one from nokhud

[marble cipher]

Strike Twice?

[balmy gate]

yea

[marble cipher]

It ..... hardly strikes twice... Ever

[loud patrol]

that shield looks nice

but yeah go for weap

strike twice sucks

is not even a 2nd hit

is a dmg proc

[balmy gate]

its a wep with a proc that doesnt cut into the stat budget

how does it suck lmao

[loud patrol]

if the proc was a 2nd strike

i would say its nice

[analog yew]

What do u think about trinket from roby with haste?

[limpid anchor]

What are the stats on strike twice

[balmy gate]

doesnt matter what the proc is as long as its free extra damage

crit mastery

[loud patrol]

crit mastery

[crude mantle]

Anyone have tank weakauras that help for any dungeons?

[limpid anchor]

So the rarely pricing extra dmg is better than haste?

[loud patrol]

thats what they say

[limpid anchor]

I mean, whatever the sim says I guess

[balmy gate]

you can get enough haste elsewhere

[crude mantle]

Shield charge with crit OoO

[limpid anchor]

There’s never enough!

[balmy gate]

especially with the super haste weighted rings

[steady steppe]

shield slam bonk noise >

[loud patrol]

oce you get that 40% haste you can think of getting other stuff

[limpid anchor]

Even if you can, mastery is the worst stat for us

[broken mulch]

Why does my ruby life trinket the shell thing sim so bad but guide says it's a pretty A tier trinket?

Do I do something wrong in sim?

Also do you have to do the on use every day or just a once do and forget thing? 🤔

[torpid geyser]

I did try that wep and the proc rate for that is really terrible lol

[loud patrol]

same

[torpid geyser]

its 1% of damage wise per run

[balmy gate]

that's not bad though?

[loud patrol]

1% is really bad

[balmy gate]

lmao

[torpid geyser]

wep and trinkets to be generally good it should be 5% at least

[balmy gate]

??

that would be the case if the weapon had no secondary stats

lmao

[strong forum]

got hc all-totem LETSGOOO

[balmy gate]

the only thing you're giving up is some haste for mastery

[balmy gate]

[lyric elm]

gl on vault brothers

[leaden imp]

guys i'm seeking advice, regarding trinkets. i just got gift of radiance, currently rocking whelp shell and a 379 ritual shell as stone turtle, simms tell me to ditch the ruby shell but BiS-list rates it as one of the highest ones, what should i do?

[cinder nova]

Wowee tyran sha still feels like dogpiss

[strong forum]

thats an error on the guides tbh

ruby shell is too unpredictable to be considered good

https://i.imgur.com/CcDQMNU.png

[strong forum]

this is the dmg it did over 7.5min on my pug cotank

4 dmg hits

barely 550 dps

[cinder nova]

Nom is omen working for you

I haven't seen it function since DF dropped

[frosty mango]

For m+ Ive been running the 385 turtle shell with stone

Its a considerable amount of absorbs but I've yet to find a decent second trinket I like, using the vers horn but it feels eh

[weary notch]

Horn of Valor? A 398 horn is all that's good that was in teh vault for me

[frosty mango]

I have a 402 horn but for lower keys I swap it out for dps trinkets

Kinda torn between horn and blazebinders hoof

[strong forum]

you mean the threatmeter?

havent had that installed since idc cata

[cinder nova]

Binder is probably better, tbh.

More overall STR and a damage proc.

Only downside is 10 less seconds on duration

Pretty sure the effective strength on hoof is still better

[frosty mango]

Yeah I've been flipping back and forth

[cinder nova]

Horn is mindless tho

Since I think hoof has facing

[frosty mango]

It gives me PTSD in nokhud

When I trinket and I think the rally buff went off

[strong forum]

hoof sims better

and if you time it well

its nutty

just the dmg effect does ~1% in keys

not even counting the extra str it provides

[slim dove]

nom youve still been using whetstone?

[craggy pilot]

anyone have any smart way of handling frontals? feel like theres a lot of the frontals in this current M+ pool that are quite hard to see when in shallow water like Temple or Nokhud dung

[strong forum]

ofc whetstone

the only item to swap whetstone with is boon or grieftorch

[slim dove]

mmm ok

[weary notch]

I guess I should take the horn. That or a 389 pair of M+ boots. I've just got so may trinkets I don't know what to run it with. 379 Lifeflame ampule isn't great but it has +197 avoidance on it. That and a 379 scale

[frosty mango]

I note them then make a weakaura that says when they're going off

[slim dove]

court kinda ruff this week but guess i farm

[cinder nova]

COS whetstone?

[strong forum]

yes

[cinder nova]

Yeah that thing's cleave is batshit.

[strong forum]

ST*

[craggy pilot]

ye i have a WA as well, but i feel sometimes i dont get far enough out of them

[slim dove]

i thought it was giga nerfed for aoe?

[cinder nova]

It was stupid even back in SL

[strong forum]

its better on ST than on aoe S.

[sage sun]

hoof or whetstone if u had to choose nome

[cinder nova]

Really

[craggy pilot]

i guess i should just sidestep, and then back to original position 🤔

[cinder nova]

It did a fuckload in overalls for Thwump

[strong forum]

yes it always does the same damage

regardless of targets

[frosty mango]

Strafe don't go back

[strong forum]

it does 300k in ST or 300k on aoe targets total

its a 1-1 split

it doesnt do more dmg with more targets

[frosty mango]

Fastest way out of a cleave is through the thing cleaving you

[craggy pilot]

i do, but some are wider than others i guess 🤷‍♂️

but i guess theres no way of having a WA that tells me when im out of a Frontal? 🤔

[frosty mango]

No, at some point we have to play the game for ourselves I'm afraid

[craggy pilot]

feels like no one knows to stun frontals in this season either 🤷‍♂️

[frosty mango]

Though tell me when might do some of that for you

[weary notch]

how good would +197 avoidance be on a trinket nowadays?

[frosty mango]

We got four stuns, we are the stunmasters

[strong forum]

avoidance is usually w/e on tanks

[vagrant hazel]

Tips on surviving tree boss in AA at higher key levels? Is there a way to avoid the damage taken debuff, or are we just kiting the adds frantically and rolling CDs?

[strong forum]

cuz all mechanics that scale with avoidance are more dangerous to dps than to tanks

[strong forum]

have more dps

cleanse the debuff with the ancient branch dying, dont heal the adds with it

[cinder nova]

Serious question, for Tyr weeks what mods if any would you suggest for M+ build

[strong forum]

and have dps kill the adds quick

theres no way around it

[weary notch]

so out of 379 scale, lifeflame w/ avoidance, 376 Decoration, and 398 horn, I guess horn and decoration?

[frosty mango]

Have dps hold burst for burst forth, pop burst and delete adds. Then there are no adds to contend with

[strong forum]

the entire boss is just figuring out how to kill adds quickly

[vagrant hazel]

Gotcha. I'm probably not getting the debuff cleared

Thanks guys

[frosty mango]

If you try to kill the lasher's via attrition you're gonna die

Especially grievous week

[craggy pilot]

any specific Graphics Settings that are important to have on high in Dungeons? 🤔 for frontals etc

[sharp bone]

keep in mind only every second wave of him summoning ads is dangerous

[frosty mango]

It's called "burst forth"

[craggy pilot]

will try putting Particle Density quality up, and hopefully that will help a bit for frontal visibility 🙂

[winged surge]

Guys hello

[uneven mason]

Mmmmm Grevious + stacking Poison, *drops academy key in the trash

[winged surge]

Can i have The Best Talent For M+ for Protection War?

[uneven mason]

[warm plinth]

Not sure about high or not but projected textures need to be on. Particle density is one that can possibly help but textures are the big one because some mechanics can't be seen at all without it.

[strong forum]

about 3 ilvl

but you can just sim it

[elfin scarab]

fueled by violence or BV?

[proud fulcrum]

Hello, guys. I've been struggling lately with my tanking. Could someone please take a look at my logs and tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thank you

[strong forum]

sure send the log

[proud fulcrum]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vCVPmbqD1T9yMtzh/

I'm "Tazapequeña"

[strong forum]

cant honestly say, but the higher you go the better BrV becomes, despite the bug imo

[warm plinth]

Nome

I just want you to know how much I appreciate you calling it BrV

[strong forum]

your CPM is super low trankiloman

why arent you using ignore pain?

[proud fulcrum]

What's CPM?

[strong forum]

casts per minute

aka how many abilities you send per minute

[proud fulcrum]

Mostly because of rage, I think

[strong forum]

nah youre not pressing buttons m8

left is me

right is you

im pressing almost twice as many buttons per minute as you are

you should seriously look into your button layout and actively check what youre pressing

same fight btw

[sage sun]

fangs or spikes?

[rough solstice]

https://gyazo.com/daba2f6f6c60d1428f637d12b2c4709f

worth or nah

[strong forum]

not worth to pick from vault

its super farmable at 398

[rough solstice]

sadge

[strong forum]

but not amazing of a trinket either

[rough solstice]

haste mastery neck it is

[proud fulcrum]

Hmm, ok. So is it just an issue with actions/minute? or?

[strong forum]

youre also not pressing SB

often enough

you only have 51% blocked hits

when it should be closer to 100%

why are you playing barbaric training in raid

no wonder you dont have rage

that talent literally ruins your rotation and rage usage

you should also stop playing juggernaut and massacre

and instead play enduring defenses and punish

no wonder you dont block anything

[rough solstice]

https://gyazo.com/242b4f882500dc30b20e1c19f25be44d wht about now lol

[strong forum]

keep hoof and shell

[rough solstice]

wow i actually got no upgrades then

[strong forum]

m+ trinkets can be farmed

[rough solstice]

lose to much haste with other rewards

[strong forum]

what are the options

[warm plinth]

If it's higher ilevel, take it

[strong forum]

ilvl > haste on armor

[warm plinth]

You don't just ignore an upgrade because you lose haste

[fallen pulsar]

Nome do you do barb training for council

[rough solstice]

https://gyazo.com/9666aa32467ca0f27bfcd23a793f844c was next best

[strong forum]

ive not played council

but its permanent 4 targets or?

[fallen pulsar]

Perm 4

[strong forum]

any armor piece in vault?

hmmm barbaric could be good there ye

[rough solstice]

just a cloak

https://gyazo.com/ae8ee6082d69141022b51799fa2d07ad

[strong forum]

bloodsurge + barbaric could be playable there

would have to feel it out tbh

[warm plinth]

take the cloak

[strong forum]

what a shitty vault my guy

[rough solstice]

its all low anyways prob replace before end of the week

yeah

[warm plinth]

😂

[strong forum]

idk if you want trinket pick trinket

[warm plinth]

My vault was sick. I got a 372 bracer or something, but I was still using 304

[strong forum]

all of will get replaced instantly

pick whatever you find fun

[rough solstice]

ive never tanked before df so so havent pushed much

yeah was thinking that

[strong forum]

your healing breakdown is also hard troll

this is what it should look like

this is yours

[warm plinth]

oh dear

[strong forum]

so yeah to sum it up

a) stop playing barbaric training
b) focus more on your shield slam and thunderclap usage
c) dump rage into ignore pain to prevent overcapping! revenge otherwise
d) use offensive cooldowns on cooldown
e) play impenetrable wall instead of defenders aegis, you dont need shield wall THAT often back to back, its more rage gen

[proud fulcrum]

Well now I know. Thanks!

[fathom goblet]

whats defensive instance does ? I think I have bad translation on my tooltip

[prisma crane]

glad to see people learning

[fathom goblet]

its saying more 15% dmg and less 10% damage taken

[warm plinth]

Reduces damage taken by 15% and damage done by 10%

[strong forum]

^

[novel temple]

I play with barbaric and I’m still way higher on healing which also reminds me, how do I fix my logs? It’s not letting me upload logs

[warm plinth]

Do you have advanced combat logging enabled?

[strong forum]

barbaric training fucks you up in ST, i cant recommend playing it

but TECHNICALLY its more dmg

but plays like shit

its also NOT ALOT more dmg on ST

[uneven mason]

It's baaaad math requires thought

[strong forum]

yeah

youre making an rotational spell less efficient to press

[uneven mason]

Opportunity cost of less SS resets

because of less Revenges

[strong forum]

yup

[uneven mason]

it's REALLY bad math

[craggy pilot]

can anyone explain me the packs around storm boss Nokhud?

like what is the idea?

[warm plinth]

seems fine

😂

[craggy pilot]

is it me who fucked up, or no kicks? like i dont rly understand the packs there

[autumn urchin]

stormbolt is a kick

arcing u have to mitigate

[craggy pilot]

ye stormbolt kick or reflect

[autumn urchin]

afaik the mobs are ccable

[strong forum]

arcing used to be reflectable on beta i think 😦

now its just a magic nuke

that takes out your teeth fillings

very cringe

[craggy pilot]

but why do i get hit 2x 130k?

isnt it only one Arcing blade mob in the waterfall pack?

[mighty valley]

no, there's two

[craggy pilot]

speaking of, anyone know how to reduce the size of these pull numbers

[craggy pilot]

isnt that a different spot?

[warm plinth]

lol