protection

[loud patrol]

but i get monkeys as pugs

i hate my m+ team raid days ;_;

come do m+ with mee i feel loney

[royal rune]

is prot war M+ meta?

[south zealot]

yes

[quartz mist]

yes

[loud patrol]

nah

we

[royal rune]

our DPS is decent too?

[south zealot]

yes

[quartz mist]

yes

[wary heath]

88 Haste or Energized Ysmerald ?, is 18 haste worth 33 vers ?

[royal rune]

full SB uptime is awesome

[strong forum]

double stat gems are better than single stat

[wary heath]

@ nom

[south zealot]

33 verse is better

[wary heath]

thx team

[south zealot]

go double stat

[wary heath]

so just literally 3 energized ?

and the embellish picks one randomly ?

[strong forum]

i have 1x mainstat+crit
2x haste+crit

[wary heath]

as long as they are all equal

I currently have my

i have that one in my ring currently

[south zealot]

crit

[wary heath]

my helm also proc'd with a gem, or maybe it always comes with one

i've had zero luck in M+ for gear this week, and all the luck in raid

[dry spear]

What cast can i spellreflect on dathea?

The zephyr slam?

[main pulsar]

+7s puggable?

[strong forum]

lol yes

[main pulsar]

Also what are you guys crafting w your sparks?

[wary heath]

you cannot spell reflect zephre slam no

it's a physical tank buster

[strong forum]

just check the spreadsheet

[wary heath]

1st Spark went into a primal molten defender, 2nd one jus went into this necklace

3rd will probably go into a weapon ?

depends on vaul

vault

[heavy temple]

is that our bis ST wep?

[strong forum]

from m+, probably

the proc itself does very little

but its free damage

[quartz mist]

wep from academy is bis

[fading tide]

The bird boss on academy am I supposed to have the group go fire or wind route?

[strong forum]

fire first

then wind to reset deafening screech stacks

[fading tide]

What about the tree guy? Anything special to do as a tank other then bring the boss to the healing add for cleave dmg?

[strong forum]

focus the add

dont cleave it

cleaving it is what kills you the most

cuz itll die late and heal all the adds

[severe steeple]

this boss is gonna be such a wall next week

[strong forum]

yeah 100%

we couldnt even get past the boss on 18 this week as 5tank

[severe steeple]

i can even smell an eventual nerf

[strong forum]

so we had to go on 17

[heavy temple]

so stats > the proc?

[strong forum]

its a sim question

[heavy temple]

kk thanks

[strong forum]

thats for me for example rn

1 boss 3min no monk buff no wft

aka m+

[south zealot]

you can pug 15s this week without too much difficulty

[craggy pilot]

sheesh

lariat crafters be making bank

[dense goblet]

Anyone have any ideas or strats for the last pack before the final boss in Jade Serpent, going to do my 17 later and I am trying to not die

[strong forum]

sync up their claws

reflect it

and then kite when you dont have reflect up

[cinder storm]

Lust, aegis, spell block and kite

[south zealot]

stuns kicks defensives kite

you cannot tank those mobs on fortified especially if theyre raged

[sick sentinel]

how am i supposed to pull that, is it all yellow mobs in the area besides the bear?

[quartz mist]

easier % then pulling those

[south zealot]

0 clue

[strong forum]

no you can just run around them

[south zealot]

ive never seen those bears pulled in that way

[quartz mist]

^

[strong forum]

in all my runs

ive pulled all bears

so far

[loud patrol]

tbh i have never

i prefer wolves

[sick sentinel]

im pretty sure they are in the pins here

[quartz mist]

just slap middle room and wolves

[strong forum]

wolves are more dangerous now imo

[south zealot]

usually i see people pull the 4 yaks or the 4 pack on the right

[sick sentinel]

pika routes for pugs anyway

[craggy pilot]

are bears better than the bulls? 🤔

[strong forum]

this is what i do

[cinder storm]

Bears are safe with speed buff and not sitting on that bleed

[quartz mist]

ew

[strong forum]

skip straight to fenryr

then do 5 wolves

ah actually this

[craggy pilot]

oh you do wolves + bears+ bulls

[south zealot]

5 wolves then 2 pack with boss

[quartz mist]

i do all wolves like a legend

[craggy pilot]

thats a lot of % though

[quartz mist]

and main room middle

[south zealot]

i dont really think it matters

halls timer seems pretty easy

[strong forum]

it is

[south zealot]

but its fort so who knows

[loud patrol]

ye it is

[cinder storm]

Someone always autoruns and pulls the dragon for me

[bold turret]

Don’t the wolves hit really hard? Got globalled by them on a 16

[loud patrol]

cuz this im pulling the dragon lmao

[craggy pilot]

i have only this, and i take 4 bulls if we manage to skip dragon

and 5 bulls if we skipped the early sentinel

[south zealot]

they do more damage if theyre in a group

[strong forum]

yeah they do a massive tank buster Patty

[quartz mist]

wolves are cake

[south zealot]

shield wall on pull slam them for like 10 seconds then gtfo

[cinder storm]

Yeah haha

[south zealot]

or they should be dead if dps slam cds

[quartz mist]

druid vortex , slap em

[strong forum]

wolves requires heavy CDs and kiting

so do bears tbf

[south zealot]

or talent into spear

[strong forum]

the tank buster they do now slaps quite hard

bears you need to reset your stacks

[craggy pilot]

didnt you include wolves in your pull also?

[strong forum]

i do, but you usually have stuff for them there

you need the space for the boss

[craggy pilot]

i didnt rly have many issues with wolves, but highest halls i did so far is a 13

[loud patrol]

i might do wolves but talent spear

[strong forum]

its not an issue

just surprising

[mellow quartz]

the good thing abt bears is you do them after the boss same with bulls and you have the speed buff so you can just run in a circle around them

[craggy pilot]

ye it got me once when i pulled 2 on boss

[mellow quartz]

if you are close enough they dont charge you

[craggy pilot]

but was more because i didnt have block up i think

[loud patrol]

talent spear and ranged with titanic throw

[strong forum]

hell naw

[bold turret]

So the wolves you just pull the 3 packs after the boss runs away slam SW and LS and then gtfo?

[bold turret]

Or pull the 2 wolves onto the boss?

[mellow quartz]

I use all CDs on the 5 wolves

[cinder storm]

5 wolves was safe yet spicy-ish on a 14

I respect bears more

[mellow quartz]

for bears and bulls, do them after the boss and you have the 150% speed boost. if you pull them all and then run in a circle around them (inside 8 yards) they wont hit you much and wont charge and slow you

[vapid turtle]

how do prot warriors trigger the fire dmg for https://www.wowhead.com/item=195480/seal-of-diurnas-chosen?bonus=7935

[strong forum]

grieftorch trinket and frost fire belt

and i guess fire stance from all-totem

potentially

cant say for certain

[slim dove]

yeah until a few people run it and we see numbers, hard to say

[sick sentinel]

is it better to have hyjra halls of valor on left or right side buff

[strong forum]

left first

then bounce between phases with the knockback from her tank buster

[sick sentinel]

and then have to move after so many to right side? repeat?

[slim dove]

di model slaps

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/ZQFxnjR.jpeg

yes

[slim dove]

gdamn

[sick sentinel]

hmm, i dunno if im gunna time this halls of valor

[slim dove]

shit is that lfr tomb of sarg?

[strong forum]

nop

its cruel elite glad

[slim dove]

dang

woe is me

[strong forum]

lfr is yellow tomb

[slim dove]

shoulda played war ages ago smh

not smelly druid.

[strong forum]

ya very happy that i got it

[chrome falcon]

HC diurna deadge

[tender cove]

speaking of halls, if you just press W, you're about 6ish % over count. what, if anything do you skip?

[chrome falcon]

Shield went to holy paladin

[cinder storm]

[strong forum]

we usually are a couple %short

and need to pull extra

[chrome falcon]

^

[tender cove]

do you skip the dragon?

[chrome falcon]

Idk what you’re pulling but if you’re over count then you’re holding W different to me

[strong forum]

yes

dragon is banned

[tender cove]

ahh, thats where i go over

[chrome falcon]

Oh I was told you can’t skip dragon anymore

[strong forum]

you can

[chrome falcon]

I thought it auto pulled

[strong forum]

nop

[chrome falcon]

My dps lying to me as always

[lean gale]

DPS are no humans

[tender cove]

I dont pull anything extra at all, and no bears, just the bulls and 2 packs wolves

[strong forum]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1682436006?t=02h29m41s

[tender cove]

I dont have a route though, just wing it but noticed twice im done before last 2 is done

at last boss

[fallow cape]

im pretty sure the ruby whelp shell is garbage, its doing almost nothing for me

[strong forum]

ye its super rng

[fallow cape]

too bad i dont have any better trinkets yet

[tender cove]

My first thought? Wow, thats pretty nice. My second? Thats never ever gonna work in my pugs xD

[south zealot]

i was told that to

[strong forum]

yeah not gonna work with the unaware

[south zealot]

by a rank tho

tank

[warm plinth]

It's kind of advanced for the average pug tbh

[zealous willow]

ruby shell trinket bad or good ?

[toxic pewter]

you guys running HR or ItF in m+

[strong forum]

i run HR

[cinder storm]

HR

[strong forum]

cant stand the downtime of ITF

its killed me 1 too many times

[toxic pewter]

yep. its a lot more risk

[chrome falcon]

havent changed off HR yet for any content while i learn it

but you can probably drop it on a few raid bosses

never in m+ with these haste amounts

imo

[strong forum]

on raid absolutely you go ITF

[chrome falcon]

think there are still some places you want HR

boss tank on diurna

[strong forum]

ye

[chrome falcon]

i thought HR was better damage ST?

[strong forum]

some bosses youre also omega alone

[chrome falcon]

yeah

[strong forum]

ITF is better dmg if you can guarantee 5 stacks

if you cant, HR is infinitely better

[chrome falcon]

yeah

i don't like ITF on dathea

[south zealot]

some bosses are so fucking big uou dont even get itf sometimes

[chrome falcon]

because you're so spread

and yeah it's huge

but terros you're perma stacked

primal council obviously

[strong forum]

ye i also dont see ITF being good on dathea

[chrome falcon]

i guess you ITF sennarth

but i try to enter a fugue state any time i pull that boss so i don't have to be conscious for it

[toxic pewter]

lol

[tender cove]

What do you mean with downtime?

I get the word but not the context 😦

[strong forum]

block downtime

even with Bolster, you get downtime on block

and you cant use SW and LS as defensives, but rather as gap fillers

plays like ass

ya i didnt bother with aoe sim much

you mean show of force?

[south zealot]

outlaw is rng too isnt it

with rolling

[wanton night]

yo, how do prots use the ruby whelp trinket? do i target an ally so it keeps healing me when it procs?

[slim dove]

you target an enemy to weigh the rng towards dmg procs.

still not guaranteed to proc what you want

[wanton night]

so it can do both dmg and heal when it procs?

[strong forum]

always ye

[wanton night]

but on use i wanna taget enemies

[strong forum]

even if you weigh it towards heal or dmg

it does all of the procs

its pure RNG 1ppm chance

[stray kernel]

Is there any reliable way to proc the raid rings (seal of filial duty / seal of diurna's chosen)?

[tardy sequoia]

guys terros debuff that doesn't go away does a lot of damage

[south zealot]

just ignore the pain

[main pulsar]

hey so

should i be using ignore pain all the time

its kinda free

im new to prot

[strong forum]

then id like to point you to the wowhead and icyveins guides first

or maybe someone likes to explain it here, as i am way too lazy rn

[median tulip]

You dump excess Rage into IP rather than wasting it; because it's off the GCD you can dump fast to it if you're likely to overcap

[craggy pilot]

anyone know if the Storm 2 set is worth farming for M+?

or if it even works in dungeons?

[slim dove]

presumably it doesn't work in instanced content, similar to the warmode pvp gear.

[wanton night]

does it reset if i get a higher ilvl trinket and switch it out?

[strong forum]

no clue

[tardy sequoia]

do i switch every stacks at terros or every two?

[strong forum]

on normal terros we swapped on 2

[tardy sequoia]

what about HC?

[strong forum]

dunno about higher, didnt bother pugging

if you can comfortably survive 2, switch on 2

if the debuff resets in time for the 3rd, swap on 1

simple as that

cuz on normal you have to do 2 cuz if you swap on 1 you never drop the debuff

[fresh kiln]

Kurog tank damage is freakin insane no?

guy is making me sweat

[tardy sequoia]

same on HC nom

[median tulip]

The thing with Kurog, I found, was that tanking him was fine, but the DoT from the tank swap is mental and the adds are way harder than he is

[tardy sequoia]

if you swap on 1 debuff never clears

[fresh kiln]

yeah i agree with that zetakya but im doing it in pugs and i have no clue if im not tanky enough or like if my healers arent healing enough or of my dps arent clearing adds fast enough

[fierce geyser]

bis neck right now is vengeful hurricane, right?

[stray kernel]

Lariat?

[fierce geyser]

don't have any sparks :/

[outer sluice]

what flask do we run for m+?

[fierce geyser]

wasted mine like an idiot

[strong forum]

glacial fury

[stray kernel]

sad times

[craggy pilot]

i run eye of the storm, but there are a few options

[fierce geyser]

so is vengeful next best?

[strong forum]

that is a pretty sick neck, but i think its a bit too much haste even

[outer sluice]

ty

[tulip harness]

Are the nerfs that hit prot significant for m+? Leveling a tank rn and I'm torn between prot warr and veng dh, just wondering if prot is still considered the best option or not?

[strong forum]

no they dont matter

[fierce geyser]

nah, prot sitting pretty

[strong forum]

from what im hearing and seeing, pwar is alot better than veng

[south zealot]

i miss banner

[tulip harness]

Perfect, makes my choice easy, thanks guys

[south zealot]

[strong forum]

veng is good and all, but a struggle from what im hearing from my buddies

[fierce geyser]

np, just know we ain't gods, need those dps and healer

[strong forum]

compared to what im displaying

[south zealot]

ive heard veng sucks if you get hit by big single strikes

terros was ripping apart our dh tank on heroic lol

[strong forum]

personal skill is a huge factor

[south zealot]

true

[strong forum]

but my buddies are all 0.1% m+ title owners so they are somewhat capable

[south zealot]

gamers

[strong forum]

one of em even rolled to brew instead of vdh

he just got his first 20 done :gamer:

[south zealot]

gigachad

[median tulip]

Honestly, if you're reasonably geared for the difficulty it's almost certainly the DPS that's at issue. That whole fight is a blatant DPS check IMO.

[tender cove]

echo using 2 warr tanks says all you need to know wink wink

[strong forum]

method is using a prot pally 🙂

[south zealot]

hopefully i can time my first 15 today or tomorrow

method kekw

pink class is for noobs

[tender cove]

I like how naowh has been the most geared char in echo for the past couple days. Says a lot about the importance of gearing your tank first 😛

I just like to throw that out lol but really, why did they gear him so heavily? At one point, he was 7ilvls above everyone else so it clearly was an intended early strat

but why?

Last boss i guess?

[south zealot]

give me the loot or i gquit

[slim dove]

last boss slaps tanks pretty hard i think?

[strong forum]

maybe just alot of loot available for him from splits

they held onto loot for a long time

[tender cove]

He has been consistently highest in the guild, 2 days ago it was 7 ilvls, yesterday it was 4 ilvls and now some have just caught up.
Maybe just rng but its echo, i feel like they have some intention with it

[slim dove]

true they arent running much plate

[strong forum]

he was also the first to push several 20s i think

[tender cove]

is there any tank shenanigans you could pull off on last boss? Solo tanking or something crazy?

[strong forum]

no clue about raid stuff

[south zealot]

im pretty sure you just die to jaws

but i also havent tanked the fight so idk

[tender cove]

you dont raid? 😮

[strong forum]

nop

im pretty casual

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[strong forum]

cba playing on a schedule to then go and wipe for 7hrs a week on bosses that shouldve died 100 pulls ago

[south zealot]

that’s what a rogue in my guild said when asked why he doesnt like mythic raiding

he was like “if mythic could scale to like 10-14 players i would do it so theres less ppl to rely on”

[strong forum]

yup

exactly

[deft mortar]

the logistics of raiding sucks

[wanton osprey]

Can you see what buff you get from Ruby Whelp Shell? Which one is best for prot? Specifically m+

[strong forum]

its a chat output

[severe steeple]

i think megadungeons should be xplored more as an endgame solution instead of one every 2 years

[strong forum]

if you target enemy = weigh to dmg
if you target nothing = weigh to stat buff
if you target friendly = weigh to heal

a comment on wowhead also explains it

[severe steeple]

i also cba anymore to find guilds and all that stuff

[olive rock]

Guys, what the best full damage build ? the one on wowhead ?

[wanton osprey]

got it, ok.

[strong forum]

for which scenario gabmoon

[olive rock]

M+

[median tulip]

NGL, I think TBC Kara was the optimal solution. 10 man instances should be more widespread.

[lime rivet]

Failed to time a +14 TOJS. Just smashed a +15 thanks to advice from you guys. Thank you Skyhold

[jagged pier]

no one remebers the horrors of 10 man cata then i guess

[wanton osprey]

What's the preference for prot for the shell?

[jagged pier]

mop was okay

[jagged pier]

fire

[median tulip]

I didn't play Cata

[wanton osprey]

ruby whelp** not turtle shell

[strong forum]

im playing this

[jagged pier]

no titanic throw

[strong forum]

well i play TT in normal groups

instead of bounding stride

[olive rock]

i will copy that

thank you

i jsut want to do lots of damage as prot

lol

[jagged pier]

that comes from play tho

[strong forum]

i got r1 dmg in pretty much every key ive done with this and ye majority comes from playing well

[deft pagoda]

Hey guys what embellished thing should I craft?

[main pulsar]

what are people using sparks on?

[median tulip]

I'm getting really pissed off with Storm Bolt. Every single thing that I want to Stun is immune. What's the fucking point?

[strong forum]

thats your group overstunning shit

[median tulip]

No, shit is just fucking immune

[strong forum]

well then youre trying to stun mobs that arent CCable

thats a you issue

[sweet summit]

titanic throw real tech ?

[median tulip]

Exactly my point; every mob that it would be worth stunning isn't stunable

[strong forum]

TT is super good for engaging packs

instant threat on all 6 targets if theyre somewhat stacked

[sweet summit]

i see i see

[severe steeple]

what if i try to los the pack and the DH just hunts it

[strong forum]

his issue

[severe steeple]

i know

[oblique wharf]

For this shit of a dungeon ruby yikes pools is spell block better than tough as nails?

I found this dungeon one of the worst this week

[median niche]

i love tanking jade serpent key

[strong forum]

RLP is defo a spell block dungeon

but spell block doesnt work on 2nd boss tank combo so thats cringe

[oblique wharf]

Yikes

This dungeon is one piece or crap

[strong forum]

it requires alot of practice

but its actually not that bad

just requires lot of coordination

[south zealot]

spell block is too much work

[oblique wharf]

Yeah 2nd boss is mad

[south zealot]

i just press spell reflect and hope it carries

[strong forum]

2nd boss is just baiting things properly

and rotating CDs for tank combo

[oblique wharf]

IP and przy

Pray

[strong forum]

you have SW for every other combo

SR for every combo

[oblique wharf]

I mean i dont have issues surviving

Its more about things getting out od control pretty quick

[harsh dove]

Is Bloodborne not worth it for damage? Or is it just a case of points better spent elsewhere?

[strong forum]

BB is awful for dmg

literal bait talent

[south zealot]

bloodborne is far right, right?

[strong forum]

ye

[south zealot]

i dont wven remember what it does ive actually never even used it

[lime rivet]

does spell block work on 2nd boss tank combo?

[strong forum]

no

[lime rivet]

gotcha - figured it didn’t but wanted to make sure.

[small coral]

I bet RLP will be way worse next week

Tyrannical gonna be aids

[severe steeple]

first week of tyrranical is always pepega

[calm sapphire]

Tyrannical Grievous

[strong forum]

tyr grievous is gonna be insane

[severe steeple]

cause ppl streamrolled bosses on fortified week

[strong forum]

like

[last crest]

is lariat bis neck ?

[strong forum]

Azure Vault - hard banned
RLP - hard banned
AA - tree boss will suck

[last crest]

i dont see any crafted gear in bis gear, but ive been told some of those are highkey insane

[strong forum]

totjs - hard banned

none of the crafted pieces are insane

if youre talking about the effects

[dapper yacht]

by 3rd set of adds, i am gasping for cds, what do ya all do? on treant boss

[strong forum]

have better dps

the boss is a pure DPS check

[last crest]

so lariat isnt worth 100k for us ?

[strong forum]

nah

[south zealot]

what makes azure hard on higher keys

knly done an 11

[strong forum]

every boss

lol

[dapper yacht]

i had a group doing 110k but still couldn't kill it

[strong forum]

theyre all super dangerous

[strong forum]

i do 120k on my own on that boss 😄

[south zealot]

unholy dk stonks

[strong forum]

its doing dps at the correct time

the adds need to blow up in a few seconds, and you need a poison dispel

then the boss is omega fine

[south zealot]

grab a windwalker

[strong forum]

or fury warrior

[dapper yacht]

this, toxin ticks for like 150k+ even with cds, on 24+ stacks

[south zealot]

fury does big damage every other set

[small coral]

I talent bitter immunity for that fight

[strong forum]

im a dwarf

[south zealot]

so need other dps to cover the ones fury cant do

[dapper yacht]

oh damn, i didn't know that existed.

[south zealot]

i was so excited for it bc it was supposed to clear bleeds

of course that got nerfed tho lol

[dapper yacht]

but its 3mins

[wary heath]

Dwarf

[south zealot]

grab a dls or healer with poison dispel

dps

[craggy pilot]

omfg got a timed Halls, and swapped my key, and got a fucking RLP again 🤣

[south zealot]

ratio

[wide charm]

What enchant are we playing ?

[jagged pier]

sophic writ because its cheap

[strong forum]

can easily sim that, but sophic is getting better and better the more gear you have

[jagged pier]

once i get a mythic wep

ill get sohpic devo

[severe steeple]

no way im paying those prices until smth like 415 weapon

[strong forum]

just get the cheap ones

lol

[paper coral]

I bought sophic once, i'm dumb.

[strong forum]

enchants are massively important

[paper coral]

not doing THAT again

Not till I have a piece I know i'll use awhile

[dusky canopy]

I’m only doing enchants on mythic item level gear just because I don’t have millions to waste

[strong forum]

most r2 stuff only costs like 1-2k gold

some is even cheaper

stop only looking at r3 stuff lol

[dusky canopy]

Oh for sure do the cheap enchants

[uneven mason]

Where's the best source of paths

[dusky canopy]

I meant like bis stuff

[spark cedar]

which two crafted pieces you guys got?

Elemental lariat + which embelishment/special piece?

[ornate carbon]

I made Lariat and the Haste pants

[sand torrent]

With haste versa?

[paper coral]

Do you make second based on ilvl need or the preferred crafting from wowhead?

[last crest]

has blizzard give us any echo on nerfing some of the dungs? Like RLP on +16 is insanity and it isnt even tyrannical T.T

[sand torrent]

Rlp is so hard

[south zealot]

there will be tuning i assume

we are also undergeared too so itll get easier with ilvls ofc

[paper coral]

Uh, dumb question. If we dont have any gems, is Elemental lariat AS good?

[south zealot]

of course not

it requires you to have atleast a gem socketed

[paper coral]

lol

[south zealot]

otherwise its just a neck

[paper coral]

Well, crap lol

[south zealot]

you can just buy a cheap gem now until you get a good one

if youve already crafted it

[paper coral]

Naw, none of my gear has gems slot

.. my keyboard is acting up. Gem slots

[south zealot]

your neck is the only one it needs

[compact jackal]

I need a better Raszageth parse. Feels dirty not having orange average.

[paper coral]

What infuse with power did you all use for your lariat?

[pallid quiver]

R1 Sophic Writ was like 15k last I checked on area 52

pain of being on big server

R3 Sophic Dev was like, 70k or something

[oblique garnet]

Thats cheap

Was 120k earlier on eu

[strong forum]

pretty tolerable prices if you ask me

[quartz tulip]

first spark go what?

dont find anything on article

=/

[lyric elm]

does enchants stay if you upgrade with valor?

[strong forum]

yes

[strong forum]

shield/weapon whatever you prefer

i regret crafting lariat rn

[paper coral]

How come?

[strong forum]

i got like 4 good necks from m+

[edgy grail]

Why?

[strong forum]

but no weapons

[edgy grail]

Ahhhh

Same actually

Got 2 necks but still m0 weap

Lol

[untold coral]

How often are y’all in battle stance on raid fights , I’m averaging between 15-17k st at 384 but want to keep pumping as hard as I can

[paper coral]

I got the FLame Bulward from Normal raid so my shield should be good.

[edgy grail]

Dw vaukt will save us!

[strong forum]

thats really really low dmg

[paper coral]

bulwark

[strong forum]

at 389 i do ~35k dps in raid

[untold coral]

Ya I’m doing something very wrong but I’m not quite sure what

[noble jetty]

If I have the ritual shell should i got fire or earth?

[strong forum]

fire

[strong forum]

with some logs we could help you out

[edgy grail]

Post logs in the review channel

[paper coral]

should I use my spark to replace my last low ilvl piece? I have a helm I just cannt get a replacement for at 369. The alternative was to do the primal storm stuff to get the 385

[untold coral]

o7 I’ll see if I can’t find some

[edgy grail]

I was having a bit of trouble with 3rd boss of TOJS

Any tips?

I was saying IV for the abosrb

But still mehh

[strong forum]

pop lust on p2

rotate CDs for the kick

dont get hit by walls

and pray for heals

[edgy grail]

Yea talked to healer he will be saving swiftmend for it now

Should help quite a bit

IP doesn’t count against the abosrb yea?

[strong forum]

nop

[edgy grail]

Really the only way to get it off is with IV?

Or to help get it off

I guess last stand too?

[strong forum]

last stand actually does heal

its a heal and a health increase

[edgy grail]

Gotcha makes sense Ill rotate impending victory and swiftmend from healer and it should be mostly fine then

[strong forum]

its a hefty absorb

[smoky dock]

@oblique garnet For raid environment how should we be gemming and looking for stat wise. Still shooting for haste>crit or throwing in verse to take harder hits as we get into higher progression?

[compact jackal]

I like versatility because it has TWO numbers as opposed to one

and that gives me dopamine

[wary heath]

Vers and crit are useful in their own respects. Crit does nothing for unavoidable magic damage

[mellow quartz]

Not lusting last pack 🤔

[compact jackal]

What is the max leech possible with current gear I wonder

[oblique garnet]

Haste crit is good

[flat peak]

I have a question, and if there's a resource I'm missing that answers my question, and someone can point me to it, I'd appreciate it!

My question is, is there a specific piece I should craft in terms of gear for my Sparks that I should be saving them for? Or just whatever holes I have for my lowest ilvl pieces?

[paper coral]

not haste vers?

[oblique garnet]

For max dam

[paper coral]

Roger

[oblique garnet]

Haste crit is better

[smoky dock]

Gotcha

Been watching race to first and checking out warrior gear and such but with mythic I am sure they would need some verse lol

[strong forum]

vers is a nice to have

but wont make you survive shit if youre bad

[prisma crane]

the thing is, the amount of vers you're reasonably going to shift around wont be as impactful as you think

[strong forum]

if youre good, you will get by with any kind of stats

[sand plover]

what potions we using boys?

[snow robin]

I've been told necklace is the best thing to do.. I'm yet to decide myself though

[oblique drift]

How do you guys deal with clearing thundering on mobs with big frontals?

[strong forum]

generally ultimate power is the best for raid
shocking disclosure is nutty for huge aoe pulls

[strong forum]

its the dps job to clear on those

[oblique drift]

they don't in pugs 😭

[strong forum]

then you can brute force clear early

to make sure you dont die

[snow robin]

Pugging is so horrible 😂 I love watching caster mobs 70% the dps because they're too dumb to kick

[strong forum]

yeah i refuse to pug

[oblique drift]

I only really pug

[flat peak]

I've heard that, too, but I just wasn't sure, and didn't wanna spend my whole coinage on a neck if I'm gonna replace it the first Heroic boss we kill 😆

[pseudo edge]

did an AA on a 10 last night - Tree boss was a nightmare absolutely tanked our key - was copping lasher bleeds of over 180k per tick - apart from kite / blow them up whats the best way to go about the tree boss?

[slim dove]

tell ur dps to save cds for when they pop

its just a dps IQ test fight

[pallid quiver]

area 52 is the itf of enchant prices i am led to believe

[snow robin]

It looks very good with haste vers stat's and the proc to increase secondaries .. but I feel your pain

[pallid quiver]

er

other way around

Listen brain no work

[snow robin]

I would've crafted the neck but I still barely understand the new crafting system lmao

[compact jackal]

You know what I hate? Trying to pick up Dathea adds on the platform.

[oblique drift]

I find azure vault so hard in pugs

[compact jackal]

They're like 3 ravagers apart and chaincast while the DPS go brainlet mode and do what brainlets do.

[tender cove]

is it just me or is that tree boss ridiclously overtuned? Had a pretty good group for a pug, aware people but bit low gear/output... We tried a good 10-15 pulls even after timer went out.
We tried hero start, hero 3rd add pack, split cooldowns...and we just couldnt fucking do it...best attempt was 16% and it felt like pure rng to get there xD

[oblique drift]

he's definitely an outlier in terms of difficulty

[pallid quiver]

during the pug raid i was in, i was just DPS tanking the add on normal

i didn't die or anything and i can SR their aerial slash, so it was fine

[zealous grove]

I s2g it felt like if you ran the boss over the adds when they were below he did dam to them. But I said that on reddit and got downvoted to oblivion so I guess I’m just making shit up.

[tender cove]

it was a +11 btw ^

[pallid quiver]

i'd have preferred to have been tank, tho

[tender cove]

so shouldnt have felt THAT brutal but it did 😦

[compact jackal]

This is heroic

where there's the uh, 6 or 7 extra adds on the platform?

[slim dove]

its overtuned in comparison to other bosses.

[pallid quiver]

yeah i can't pull aggro on that many unless tanks really ain't pressing buttons

i can choose when i aoe pretty good as fury

[compact jackal]

It's more a matter of grouping them

[pallid quiver]

Yeah, I'd drag them to the tanks since they, uh

[tender cove]

yeh, im suspecting the adds will be halved, either in numbers or hp very soon

[pallid quiver]

refused to grab both adds?

and i just continued to keep aggro since they'd run away

as someone who mains tank, i don't understand

[tender cove]

which are the best aoe dps classes for that boss? Gonna stack the new group fur sure since I cant get another key any other way right?

gotta do another run for that?

[edgy grail]

DH

Evoker

[zealous grove]

If you do someone else’s key at same level or higher you can speak to the guy at the end to swap

[edgy grail]

But people just misplay it tbh

[craggy pilot]

i think you just need to hero 2nd pack, first pack dies to CDs

[zealous grove]

Melee is good cause they’re already stocked

[craggy pilot]

2nd dies to hero

[tender cove]

I dont really get invite to any other groups, always decline decline decline or some shit groups

[craggy pilot]

and remember to stand in the healer tree that dies, to clear stacks

[edgy grail]

Yes hero 2nd set

Its way better

[craggy pilot]

boss should be dead before 3rd i think

otherwise ur kinda fucked

[edgy grail]

Nah 3rd is fine

They stand still as well

Like 1st

[tender cove]

we tried everything. We stacked super pro for adds, we tried lust at start, 2nd pack and even at 30% hp where we struggled the most. We also seperated cooldowns based on add pack

[edgy grail]

So yiu can mostly ignore

[tender cove]

we just couldnt fucking do it lol

[craggy pilot]

i think he will be impossible next week

and get nerfed

[limpid anchor]

To what did you die and what key level?

[edgy grail]

Just bad dps

[craggy pilot]

same as last boss Pools

[tender cove]

and it was purely a numbers thing, everyone played good

[tender cove]

11

I didnt die but the dps kept dying, always to the add wave with to many adds up

[limpid anchor]

11 should be doable

[craggy pilot]

i had grp with 100k+ dps on all 3 dps and we struggled to kill that boss on +12 😄

[edgy grail]

1st set

[limpid anchor]

We use lust on first set, cds on second

[edgy grail]

You deag boss around the room since you might be a bit split up

[limpid anchor]

Works pretty good

[edgy grail]

Due to qualing

2nd you lust

And you should have cds for 3rd since used on first

[limpid anchor]

you shouldn’t get a 3rd set tbh

[edgy grail]

Not in an 11 sure

[limpid anchor]

Not even in 15

Unless your dps sucks

[edgy grail]

Idk we got 3

And all 3 dps were over 100k

And I was at 80

[limpid anchor]

Well pad dps or boss dps

[edgy grail]

In our 15

[tender cove]

this was the dps for last pull, hero on pull:

[limpid anchor]

That dps sucks

[edgy grail]

Yea I mean thats garbage damage

[limpid anchor]

No wonder you didn’t kill it

[craggy pilot]

lul that rogue

40k on aoe boss 😄

[limpid anchor]

Even the monk is questionable

[lyric elm]

rogue should be near 90k

[tender cove]

that bad huh? :x

[limpid anchor]

But that’s more a gear question i guess

[edgy grail]

Yes our monk is always around 120k+

[lyric elm]

its a +12 so you need considerable gear

[craggy pilot]

but honestly thats why you do this boss 1st in Academy

so you know if your DPS can time the key

then you dont waste time

[tender cove]

no idea what gear they had, we did +10 jade serpent just before and decided todo another one

we got owned hard

[edgy grail]

I mean

[lyric elm]

tree is the hardest and most technical boss this season imo

[edgy grail]

You need to lust

[limpid anchor]

Tree is just the dps check

[edgy grail]

And the other boss is mostly free

So ofc you go tree firsg

[tender cove]

yeh, prob should do that tbh, we killed the other 2 first

[craggy pilot]

gonna be fun to see it wednesday 🙂

[tender cove]

good idea honestly

[edgy grail]

Do the adds scale with fort?

Or tyr? Bc if tyr then next week 👀

[tender cove]

you shush now xD

[limpid anchor]

I really don’t think half the bosses are doable in tyr

[lyric elm]

@tender cove preferred route is, tree, bird, elemental, last boss

[craggy pilot]

i do Academy like this

[lyric elm]

you lust tree and elemental

[tender cove]

any reason for it? just curious

[craggy pilot]

i think Tree + Last boss Pools are the only outliers 🤔

maybe 2nd boss Nokhud?

[south zealot]

tree is hardfest

do it first

[lyric elm]

its just nice and you get lust for elemental which is the 2nd hardest boss there

[craggy pilot]

lust timing

[lyric elm]

because bird is a joke

[craggy pilot]

bird is free because of DMG amp and haste buff

[limpid anchor]

Hyla in halls, last in vault, 3rd in nok

[tender cove]

yeh, thats why i've done elemental first so hero is back up for tree boss but honestly just been pressing w, havent looked at a single route. barley know what all the packs do so might as well check them out and then make routes when its more push

[lyric elm]

tree is especially hard now i think with quaking. it really fucks up how you do the eruptions

[limpid anchor]

Prob 2nd in jade

[craggy pilot]

i feel 2nd in nokhud is harder than 3rd

and 1st boss Temple is fucking weird, had him wipe entire raid multiple times with beam even though we werent hit

[limpid anchor]

The storm is free if everyone soaks

[lyric elm]

honestly everything is straightforward in that dungeon except the tree. tree is the entire dungeon difficulty

[limpid anchor]

No you were hit, the beam was just wrong :)

It can also be invisible for some players

Really fun

[south zealot]

ye the beam has a visual bug sometimes

its bad

[tender cove]

yeh, it makes total sense todo tree first, not sure why it didnt occour to me :x

[craggy pilot]

i just got knocked up, and oneshot while the beam was on the opposite side

[lyric elm]

higher difficulty forces you to handle mechs you could ignore otherwise, thats usually the reason

[craggy pilot]

also the idea is in Fort you can do 2 trees + birds in first pull with Hero

[limpid anchor]

Af least the last pack in jade won’t oneshot me anymore next week, yay

[tender cove]

first boss jade is only annoying cuz of quake, everyone panics and stacks up 😦

[craggy pilot]

but currently thats not a good idea, since you want hero on boss even in Fort 🤣

[lyric elm]

the strat for tree is to lust on the branch btw

you need to kill that asap

[craggy pilot]

1st boss Temple with Quake + Thundering

we literally got Quake + Thundering proc on top of water beam

[tender cove]

mm, his cast lines up exactly with the add spawn but you can time storm bolt for every cast which is pretty convient.

[limpid anchor]

I wouldn’t pull the plants and birds together. Rather do birds solo and then all 3 plants, while skipping second birds

[craggy pilot]

[lyric elm]

get boss on branch so everyone gets their dot cleansed

it does insane dmg

[craggy pilot]

🤷‍♂️ worked fine for me so far, might do it different when 15+

[lyric elm]

tree has mechanics like a raid boss

[limpid anchor]

I mean ye it works, but not optimal

Gotta save some seconds to make up for tree wipes

[craggy pilot]

how do you wanna skip the birds? dont they both patrol over the boss area?

[lyric elm]

you can pull tree to the entrance

[limpid anchor]

Ye

Just don’t pull them :>

And wait until a pug runs into them

Wiping you

[lyric elm]

i just pull them in pugs

cuz pugs are what they are

[limpid anchor]

Same

But only if I see that pugs are from certain server s

[lyric elm]

arena 52

[tender cove]

wait, now im confused. Dont you need hero for boss?

[craggy pilot]

yes

but the idea of doing tree first is you have the option, but because its overtuned you cant do that 😄

so its an idea for later

[tender cove]

but dont you sacrifice it for elemental boss then?

[lyric elm]

i wouldnt waste lust for trash

cuz tree is insane

[main pulsar]

I dont see any enchants on the WoWhead guide? Whats the call?

am i looking in the wrong spot?

[burnt swallow]

Yo guys i'm asking myself something, does the weapon Double hit passive works with Devaster propertie ?

[strong forum]

double hit?

oh you mean strike twice

no that weapon doesnt cause you to melee hit twice

its just an extra dmg proc, doesnt have any interaction with anything

[craggy pilot]

ayy lets go ❤️

[cinder nova]

Oh man

[strong forum]

i just got my 418 shield too

[cinder nova]

horn of valor boys

[strong forum]

idk i prefer blazebinder over horn of valor

[craggy pilot]

probably looking wrong spot, you should look under Consumables

[cinder nova]

I would too, but it's better than what I got

[main pulsar]

Wafting Devotion worse than Frozen Devo?

[craggy pilot]

i missuse Blazebinder so often, popping it in pacs that die before it pops :<

[craggy pilot]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/enchants-gems-pve-tank#best-protection-warrior-enchants

[craggy pilot]

niceeee, from 10 +16s?

[strong forum]

ya

my weapon tho

nice

[loud patrol]

i get no loot in m+

[main pulsar]

Icy Veins says this is BIS enchant, but WoWhead says otherwise

[main pulsar]

I just got the Haste/Crit axe in M+

[strong forum]

theyre guides

not rules

[south zealot]

any toe enjoyers

[loud patrol]

srry no feet fetish here

[snow robin]

Giv shield

[strong forum]

sent

[acoustic jewel]

So I heard about an eng explosive to knock adds in RLP, anyone know how that works?

[tender quartz]

Worth upgrading 385 Wrists Haste Versa to 400+ with Valor or 50/50 Wrists and Ring and relay on high Itemlevel strength stats from vaults, later higher keys?

For reference. Or more like what should I start caring about fixing

[slim dove]

26% haste

lmao

I thought my 24% was bigdick

[craggy pilot]

what lvl do i get Infused Primal Focus? is it 16? or also 15?

[tender quartz]

I just dropped the Haste Trinket from Ruby and equipped, not sure if it's any decent

11-15

16-20 would give you 418

[slim dove]

blazebinder? yeah if you use it properly, it fucks

[craggy pilot]

ah ok thx

[tender quartz]

Would you mind TL;DR'ing me the trinket? It wasn't even on my radar

Pardon my ignorance

[craggy pilot]

did 14 timed Halls, just a little more push and i got 16 🙂

[craggy pilot]

wdym? you have it equipped 🤣

[tender quartz]

Im just so really inclined to upgrade Wrists / Ring since it's so cheap

Oh okay I could've just read it

Sounds fun

[craggy pilot]

you use it, and your auto attacks give stacks, when the timer extends it Explodes for dmg

so you get a bunch of stats for 20 sec, and then some dmg

i usually try to use it in the start of a pull, or in the start of a boss, so i know it will explode before pack/boss dies

but rly just use it on CD

[fading tide]

What kind of route do u guy take b4 the second boss on COS? To separate the little bosses from the main one

[craggy pilot]

i added the buff to my WA package, and i get it to 4-6 stacks easily

[tender quartz]

That heavily depends on what classes / jobs you have and what procs are lying around

As in Buffs / etc.

( the COS question )

[fading tide]

Yea I usually go towards where that guy that’s needs healing is lying hope there are more things in that area

[craggy pilot]

sad my wep is one of my lowest ilvl items now 😦

[tender quartz]

Dont forget to keep doing Super Rares

Saw a guy drop 392 today

[craggy pilot]

would rather spend my time on M+

more fun

[tender quartz]

I feel you definitely

[fading tide]

It’s not capped at 385?

[slim dove]

nope

got a 392 chest from supers this week.

[tender quartz]

Speaking about 26% Haste... do I wanna run Into the Fray

🤭 Co-Tank will hate me

Bear, loosing aggro already anyway

[tender cove]

wanna guess how my 2nd run of tree boss went? Whoever said evokers good for aoe. Yeh, not my evokers, no

i hate this game

😦

[fallow osprey]

evokers gonna voke

[tender quartz]

You scared me

Thoguth that was 65k overall

[tender cove]

nah, that was last pull of tree boss

[tender quartz]

Quicktip

CD+Lust on 2nd Set of Adds

Free Boss

[tender cove]

yeh, we did that. And i talked strat for couple minutes and got mocked, its only a +9, its easy, "dont tech me the game" and all that shit

[loud patrol]

damn those evokers are bad

[tender cove]

they couldnt even stack for adds

[loud patrol]

mine did at least 85k on that boss

[dull saddle]

if I send a 3 socket lariat for recraft to raise ilvl, do the second and third slots (and gems) stay or do they get yoinked?

[slim dove]

dont pug 10+ academy imo

waste of time

[tender cove]

I need to get another key somehow xD

[loud patrol]

Dont pug. FTFY

[tender quartz]

btw that lariat RECIPE

drops only from invasion rares?

[chrome falcon]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUUUkQVERpFRRBENVUVEVEUlVZBUECQE @strong forum did you see this build run in a 21 cos +1?

[loud patrol]

nah form the zone

[tender cove]

its been like this 2 nights in a row. First i was ruby, 3 depletes in a row. today its 3 depletes on tree boss

it sucks to game like this

[loud patrol]

i did a ruby where i had gods as dps

then i did a cos that the guys cant cc the sentry

the duality of wow players

[tender quartz]

from the mobs itself?

Calcu? Sorry

[tender cove]

this is my daily life. I get like exceptional play where I feel like the bad player or I get runs like 2night, there's like no middle ground, like at all

[loud patrol]

yeah, as far as i know it drops from the whole area, really low% tho

[tender quartz]

Thank you

I would say, for first week, only invite people who did the key you list -1 Keylevel

They should have a general idea.

[loud patrol]

no thanks, i want a free lariat

[tender quartz]

Maybe set minIlvl to 390, says they care about grinding and seen content

[tender cove]

I only have 380 lol

[tender quartz]

Fuck.!

380 then it is!

[loud patrol]

i try to get 380 people

[tender cove]

but yeh, i do set ilvl to 380 and my highest rio score

[loud patrol]

but those same 380 dps were in my cos

[severe steeple]

omfg sloot has his talents open on stream and he does not play 1hand specialization

[tender cove]

quick quick, lets all apply for his slot

[slim dove]

its very easy to get 380+ ilvl without touching m+

i invite by m+ score and server

[opaque hearth]

going to raid in a bit, should we not use booming voice?

[slim dove]

quel, rag, azralon are auto decline lul

[tender cove]

I do have 359 wrist thats cursed and wont drop, probably bumps me up a bit

[loud patrol]

3000 min score

[loud patrol]

tru

and people call me racist for it sometimes

then i tell them im from Ecuador and i know the type of people there is in those servers

tho

i once met a mythic raiding guild from ragnaros

CE and all

[chrome falcon]

no

ragnaros isn't real

it's a psyop by blizzard

[deft hazel]

What do i need to watch out for on first boss of academy the veximus guy.. i got giga deleted by something (didnt die but very close)

[warm plinth]

It is racist.

[loud patrol]

it is

but

its true

but thats a long explanation on how the goverments have implanted in people that the dont need to be better and they shouldnt improve

[south zealot]

rag players have been getting better

[sick sentinel]

invited a ragnaros to ... something... cant recall what, ragnaros priest healer anyways

did good for me

[loud patrol]

im not saying they are bad

[sick sentinel]

a 0 a 2 or a 5

[thin silo]

Government conspiracy to make people bad at m+
Got it

[south zealot]

quel thalas and azralon are bad experiences for me tho

[velvet lynx]

For me it's a toss up for ragnaros players, they are either really amazing or absolutely terrible

[strong forum]

Yeah it's pretty bad

[loud patrol]

but most people once they feel they are good they just dont want to improve anymore

[chrome falcon]

it seems fucking bad right

[strong forum]

It is

[chrome falcon]

wtf is 2/2 bloodborne

[velvet lynx]

I mean it's a game, you are just supposed to enjoy it

Not everyone enjoys the same things

[warm plinth]

It's a talent that increases the damage of your bleeds

😏

[chrome falcon]

pet battlers subscriptions pay for my raids and m+

[severe steeple]

jesus fucking christ that build

[chrome falcon]

so i'm not gonna complain

[sick sentinel]

i was going to ask what was wrong with that build

[chrome falcon]

yeah legit

if you showed me that build

[sick sentinel]

but then i saw death save and no SC

[chrome falcon]

i'd say a person who never played pwarr made it

[strong forum]

He's got the basics covered but like

[warm plinth]

There are apparently a lot of folks running BSV considering how often it gets asked about in here.

[strong forum]

He's only making things harder for himself

Unnecessarily

[sick sentinel]

no tough as nails neither and instead goes for bolster

[sand torrent]

Who

[chrome falcon]

well it's a 21 ghash

the BSV is the only part there i do like

[warm plinth]

Though more recently it's "is it still bugged" but that still kinda tells me they want to run it lol

[severe steeple]

no shield charge

how

[strong forum]

Bsv is fixed

[warm plinth]

Oh, is it?

[strong forum]

Ye

[south zealot]

thunderlord is underrated

[warm plinth]

That's good

[strong forum]

Thunderlord is overrated*

[south zealot]

i love that talent

[warm plinth]

At least it's not shit tier now

BSV, not TL

[severe steeple]

probably playing bsv next week then

[strong forum]

Next week?

[loud patrol]

dropping myself from the seat of the aspects to see if thats true

[south zealot]

what was broken about bsv

[strong forum]

On tyr?

[chrome falcon]

imo is -BB + TaN + thunderlord

[warm plinth]

It was basing the proc offf pre-mitigation damage @south zealot

[chrome falcon]

wait

no

[warm plinth]

So you could literally proc it and still be 100% HP

[chrome falcon]

he has a spare point

for bottom gate right?

[severe steeple]

you don't play with the healers i am playing, ok?

[chrome falcon]

he could go 1/2 BB and run shield charge?

[south zealot]

bruh

[chrome falcon]

no?

[south zealot]

glad they fixed

[warm plinth]

Yeah it was basically useless before because it would just proc on CD basically

[chrome falcon]

yeah he only has 8 points spent below 20 point gate

[strong forum]

If he dropped bloodborne and enduring alacrity, he could get shield charge + bulwark and focused vigor

[loud patrol]

[warm plinth]

That's karma getting you for the latinx hating

[sick sentinel]

ohhhhh

[warm plinth]

[loud patrol]

plz dont say that word

[warm plinth]

ngl I've died like 3 times on my mage so far leveling

[compact jackal]

that isn't a word

[sick sentinel]

so i was asking ealire about the left right stacks bosses in Halls of valor

[warm plinth]

more than any other toon

[south zealot]

dying is for noobs

[compact jackal]

Here's how you level a mage

[loud patrol]

cloth

[compact jackal]

Step 1

Buy a boost

[sick sentinel]

and so, they put a buff on her? and is it the same amount of stacks roughly for both sides, and also a safe nuimber to "pull out" at

[warm plinth]

It's going decently well; I have died because of either certain types of mobs or just getting overconfident and pulling too big

[severe steeple]

move after she casts the big ability

[cinder storm]

You swap when she pushes you

[sick sentinel]

i skipped legion, but i ran this dungeon on TW heroic a bunch so i have a pretty vague idea of whats going on there

[warm plinth]

There's that one quest where you have to challenge the mobs to duels or whatever? And usually I just do all 8 at once

[cinder storm]

Use the cast as a helping hand

[warm plinth]

I did that on mage and got decimated because apparently they teleport to you

And then the other two deaths were on these garbage ass centaur mobs that do nothing but throw spears and these lightning rod things

[loud patrol]

the one in azure span?

[warm plinth]

Uhhh, not sure tbh. it's the one chain where the one centaur clan like betrays the other or something?

LIke when you first arrive to the first one and start putting together the supplies for the caravan I think

[loud patrol]

no idea <----- loremaster btw

[warm plinth]

Eh, I'm surprised I could even give you that much detail honestly

[south zealot]

i know that quest

[plush moat]

guys should i make the Elemental Lariat with Haste & mastery ? because i also play fury and i guess its still good for protection ?