protection

[lusty grotto]

read 5 lines above

[wary heath]

LOL

[cinder storm]

Zug zug moment

[onyx matrix]

How do you do that

(Sarcasm)

[wary heath]

there's also a raid quest that gives you an infusion (4th source)

pvp might get them too ?

[onyx matrix]

Yeah, from last boss right?

Maybe

[wary heath]

killing Raszegath gives you an infusion yes. but also vault of incarnate bosses drop them (Heroic), in the form of primal focus, I got some last night

[fading tide]

What mythic plus is equal to the new normal raid

[edgy grail]

9-16

[jagged pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1052892679165448242/image.png

[fading tide]

I mean in terms of difficulty

[wary heath]

according to blizzard, up to 15 difficulty is what they consider equal to normal raiding

because 16 drops concentrated primals

[jagged pier]

like 2-5

[slender blade]

Normal isn't too tough, maybe a 9 or 10

[wary heath]

but in reality

[next elbow]

Elemental lariat any good ? for prot ?

[wary heath]

vault of incarnates, up to razsageth , is fairly easy

[jagged pier]

bis

[slim dove]

yes, very good

[next elbow]

alright i expected that

time to craft

;:p

[slim dove]

its beyond juicy

[junior hemlock]

Did you get the recipe drop?

[hollow dirge]

Why does ask mr robot always recommend mastery over haste and versatility?

[deep spruce]

Ask Mr robot?

You're joking surely

It's not 2016

[hollow dirge]

Still somehow useful

[deep spruce]

But it's recommending mastery? Hmm

And ur here, asking about the things it's telling u

Hence making it appear very useless

[edgy grail]

AMR is awful

[sudden palm]

We do 1 main stat gem and 2 haste ones?

Also what would be the other item we craft this week? 🤔

Wrist? for versa?

[edgy grail]

Whatever you want

[wary heath]

had to rub my eyes, did you just say mr robot

[edgy grail]

Shield

Weapon

Idk

[deft vessel]

random question, the wowhead mythic+ builds use heavy repercussions instead of into the fray, I was under the impression that into the fray is generally better for m+ cus, you know, aoe

esp on fortified weeks, no?

[edgy grail]

If only we had recommendations in the pins

[sudden palm]

Shield is just weird since if a shield drops in raid it'll be such a slap in the face; wouldn't it?

[wary heath]

Shield 392 > Lariat 405 > Weapon 392

[edgy grail]

As are the wrists lol

[warm plinth]

I thought AMR was finally dead. Hadn't heard it mentioned in a long ass time

[jagged pier]

no its not u loose SB

[wary heath]

the raid one off erranog has the wrong stats...so no you don't want that one

the 2nd shield can't be upgraded by primal infusions ...

so

molten defender is better

[sudden palm]

Fair enough

[deft vessel]

hm, I'll have to keep a closer eye on the uptime then, sure, I'll try with heavy repercussions, thanks

[wary heath]

also they dont have a missive, so you can't have armor spikes

embellish*

[pallid quiver]

ITF gives you more damage, but makes you risk Shield Block uptime, especially on bosses.

The way it's normally given is that it has higher highs, but lower lows.

[deft vessel]

makes sense

[pallid quiver]

HR is generally preferably unless you're simply trying to parse big number because it removes any potential for spikes, which are when tanks die

[warm plinth]

Generally the people who run ITF are either doing trivial content or they're running Bolster with it to make up the downtime on Shield Block (or they should be anyway)

[deft vessel]

I tend to tank in battle stance still, so It might make more sense to take HR, particularly when i'm already at 21% haste unbuffed

[pallid quiver]

You would want more haste with ITF to reduce Shield Block cd even more

The haste from ITF is just raw percent, unaffected by any diminishing returns or anything from rating

[deft vessel]

hm, true I suppose

[warm plinth]

It's also multiplicative, so more haste = more haste from ITF

[loud patrol]

guys i need advice

[deft vessel]

just a matter of figuring out trivial vs. tankiness

[pallid quiver]

It's usually like 40% unbuffed haste for it to be comfortable

[deft vessel]

I'll lean on HR for now in m+ I think

see how it feels

[loud patrol]

i failed an 11 nokhud, couldnt get past the 2nd boss, mechanics does perfectly

i think is the healer

[pallid quiver]

The extra rage gen from Heavy Repercussions makes the difference from the AOE damage generally negligible, so I'd just run HR all the time for the moment

[wary heath]

the 2nd boss is a hurdle. did you do the spell reflect trick ?

dps soak the orbs ?...

[loud patrol]

the wind burst reflect?

[loud patrol]

yeah

[wary heath]

the zephyr boss is like a healer hard check

[jagged pier]

yer

[jagged pier]

no thats offensive

[marsh forge]

Was that Blazing Essence or Blazebinder's hoof?

[loud patrol]

lol

[strong forum]

blazebinder

[warm plinth]

How do you know the mechanics were done perfectly 👀 what killed people?

[marsh forge]

oh nice i had both so i was like hmmm

[loud patrol]

well we soaked all orbs in matter of seconds

[wary heath]

what's the damage report

eye of the storm killed you ?

[warm plinth]

That is actually not a good thing to do though lol

The orbs deal non-trivial damage when they're soaked

If everyone is soaking a ton of them instantly, it's gonna hurt

[lusty grotto]

its an instant nuke

should be healable

i prefer my group soak everything

that might change tyrannical week though

[wary heath]

the boss seems slightly overtuned at most difficulties

or healers right now suck

[lusty grotto]

healers should be picking a shitton of orbs

for more healing

[sweet summit]

does that mean i suck if this was my offensive :(

[loud patrol]

[jagged pier]

no idea what

can only tell by logs

[warm plinth]

Letting a healer outheal you smh

[wary heath]

you can heal all you want, but you need to deal damage to kill the boss , #900 IQ

[lusty grotto]

yeah well thankfully orbs are spread out

[cursive needle]

Hey guys, super noob here, can anyone explain ignore pain to me like im an idiot?

[lusty grotto]

i belive Mwahi has a thingie in the icy veins guide

that you can read

and/or Llarod on his wowhead guide

[cursive needle]

Ok ill check there, thanks!

[wary heath]

anyone else press ignore pain, but deep down, you know it's still there?

[lusty grotto]

yeah?

[loud patrol]

dont we all?

[lusty grotto]

i do it all the time on purpose

why should you not

[loud patrol]

i press IP on Cd irl

[lusty grotto]

you def should keep doing it

[proven depot]

hey guys when fighting dathea does charge negates the pushback?

[hexed obsidian]

what do we get after shield for the spark of ingenuity?

[wary heath]

yes qattal, it does. my offtank died, and I charged 7 times in a row

[icy bane]

Yeah you can spam charge on KB to negate

[loud hull]

what embelish do u guys put on shield?

[wary heath]

you have to spam it though, it goes out incredibly fast

you wont be able to react after 4

[proven depot]

i tried doing it but didnt work guess i have high latency

[warm plinth]

Pretty sure you guys missed the joke lol

[icy bane]

You can solo tank dathea as Warrior right? At least on normal

[wary heath]

nim missed the joke

[hexed obsidian]

spikes +2

[wary heath]

it does work on dathea

[loud hull]

+2? what does that mean

[wary heath]

spam the shit out of the key

[icy bane]

Does zeph slam only increase its KB right? Not the KB of the adds also?

[proven depot]

1 more question what about the adds and who gets to tank them? off tank or alternate between off and main tank? and do tanks jump on platform too?

[wary heath]

normal or heroic ?

[proven depot]

normal

[wary heath]

there's no platforms on normal

FYI

[hexed obsidian]

means t3 armor spikes

[icy bane]

One tank jumps to platform on heroic

[wary heath]

On normal, you can easily do 2 tanks, if your boss tank is a warrior

or you can safely do it with 3 tanks

[lusty grotto]

😢

[hexed obsidian]

whats the second item we get after shield?

[wary heath]

lariat

yes see above

[lusty grotto]

[wary heath]

yesterday I had 7 stacks of zephyr slam

[proven depot]

i think your latency plays a big part on it

[icy bane]

I’m surprised the damage increase from slam ain’t just putting you into the dirt by 7

[wary heath]

i don't reccomend taking more than 2, but yes charge can negate it

[icy bane]

In my pug we swapped at 5 stacks on me and like 2 or 3 on the BDK

[wary heath]

it can be done, high latency I don't know

[proven depot]

so 2 adds spawn and 1 tank tanks them both?

[hexed obsidian]

my shield has 166 vers and haste is it supposed to be low?

[icy bane]

Yeah

[wary heath]

1 tank grabs both adds, mark one as skull, and bring to the edge

[icy bane]

Adds don’t do much damage to you, just have to delay kills for group to not get blasted off

[hexed obsidian]

is molten shield supposed to have 166 vers and haste?

[wary heath]

the 2nd tank is still getting zephyr slammed, or the other 2 tanks are, if you have 3

[icy bane]

How puggable would heroic terros be, I wanna try and get that 402 piece

[wary heath]

primal molten defender 192, has 166 haste yes

[icy bane]

My guild struggled horrendously on normal terros lol

[wary heath]

most pugs won't make it past erranog this week

heroic

[icy bane]

Damn yeah eranog is a cake walk heroic

[craggy pilot]

Anyone follow the rwf? It looks like echo still didn't start mythic prog?

[ivory light]

for lariat, dont you have to have specific gems in it to only get vers proc? if so, what gems is it

[sweet summit]

spell block works on haunting gaze

[jagged pier]

They finished all splits and vaults today, so they can just focus mythic from tomorrow, limit still need to do m+s etc for primal focuses and vault i believe

[craggy pilot]

Aha ok

[dusky sentinel]

So ive been lucky with trinket drops and cant really decide. Am I wasting my time and just try stuff out or is any of these way better than the other? Ruby, Blazing and the raid first boss trinket. Cant remember name atm.

[tender quartz]

What kinda overall are we doing? I'm 385 ( literally not a single piece dropped in M+ yet at 1400 ) and am averaging about 35k. Can I get some input to compare? 11-13 Range

I know it's not important but out of curiosity, etc.

[cinder storm]

It depends also on pull count, your avg is good

[jagged pier]

Bit low but its dependent on a lot of things like pull size talents, how your playing etc etc

[tender quartz]

I pug, so mostly smaller because no voice yea.

[jagged pier]

[wary heath]

you are doing above average

most dps I pug with absolutely suck

[ivory light]

what gems you guys use in lariat? just pure vers? or whatever sims highest

[cinder storm]

Pull bigger then

[jagged pier]

Crit haste and main stat haste

[tender quartz]

Btw, what talents should I look at when looking at subcreation? Left / Right / etc? :x

Just to play around with diff. builds

[jagged pier]

U dont look at subcreation

U look in the pins

[tender quartz]

Must've missed!

Appreciate it, pardon my ignorance :)

[ivory light]

ah shit figured vers would be better, can you not do 3x of same gem?

[jagged pier]

U can vers just sucks

[ivory light]

ah lol

[wary heath]

gemming vers does NOT sound like a good idea. get that haste boi

[jagged pier]

Getting that extra 1% vers is .5% dr it will do nothing

[pallid quiver]

like half the time if i pull more than 1 pack, the DPS just fall over dead

So I continue to pull multiple packs until they learn they have these weird things called "Defensive cooldowns"

[jagged pier]

Thats not the problem

The problem is the dungeons

[sweet summit]

one vers gem is almost 0.25% DR

[jagged pier]

Sometimes 3 mobs need 6 inturpts

[craggy pilot]

So many people forget to interrupt, even with an automarker wa that marks interrupt targets 😂

[wary heath]

dragonflight damage targeting is a wake up call for DPS right now, use interrupts stuns and defensives, and stop just standing there braindead

[jagged pier]

As so just as useless

[pallid quiver]

I think the problem I see is the DPS. I agree the dungeon design is scuffed,

but the DPS need to press defensives if they're gonna stand in swirlies

[ivory light]

also, primal ritual shell, which buff would you guys rock on it?

[sweet summit]

[jagged pier]

Fire

[ivory light]

kk thats what I thought

[cinder storm]

I spend more time cc'ing/kicking than dpsing

They don't kick tidal blast even when I link it

[craggy pilot]

😂

Had same

Tidal blast wipe

Theen next tidal wave not interrupted either

[wary heath]

dps having to use a global for non damage purposes

can lariat empower the mainstat/haste primalist gem slot ?

[warm plinth]

No, it can't empower main stat.

[oblique kayak]

interesting jc trinket buff

[night galleon]

is the Strike Twice one hander from nokhud good?

[strong forum]

its alright if you can get it at high ilvl

doesnt beat ilvl

[night galleon]

what does the effect actually do? does it just replicate auto attacks? or is it all damage?

[upbeat pine]

what missive and gem u have in lariat? Crit/haste or vers/haste?

[slim dove]

thats up to you.

[strong forum]

crit for dmg and sexy
vers if you want to pretend to be tankier

the reality is

[torn gulch]

crit/haste is for gigachads and vers/haste is for pussies

[strong forum]

neither will have a large enough impact

[torn gulch]

someone said that a while ago

[earnest nymph]

Do we think the haste idol trinket will be any good after this new buff?

[strong forum]

only if you have 8 sockets

[torn gulch]

so full sockets 3+5

[strong forum]

the trinket gets better the more sockets you have obv

so with 3 sockets its pretty whack

cant say at how many sockets its gonna be good

need to napkin it out

[torn gulch]

we can have maximum of 8 now

on gear

[earnest nymph]

I think the buff just doubled the haste it gives per socket or something

[strong forum]

yes but you need to compare it to other trinkets

with just 3 sockets its 24 haste per stack, thats 0.14% ish haste

at 8 sockets thats 64 haste, so 0.3%ish haste per stack

[toxic pewter]

I’m crit haste mega Vulpera Chad

[weary python]

Which phial gets the most mileage in Vault for us? Static empowerment?

[lusty grotto]

anyone with atrocityUI that could tell me what the default scale ui is after the install? i think i drunken changed it and cant remember which was it (for 1440p of course)

[toxic pewter]

I use that one personally

[shut flare]

is it okay to not use ignore pain on general rotation duringg raids only? since there ae healers? or uptime should be constant?

[urban portal]

you are using ignore pain to burn excess rage

[lusty grotto]

you wanna use it to get outburst

[compact jackal]

Well, a 405 rumbling ruby beats my 382 dogwater.

[shut flare]

i plan on using excess rage with revenge?

[lusty grotto]

alongside revenge of course

[cobalt badge]

is there any trinket comparison that includes the random drops from rares/wqs? my prot warrior is just an alt and trying to decide between 4 wq trinkets

[lusty grotto]

thats fine, just make sure you use IP when capping since its off-gcd

[unreal marlin]

What about Unstbale Frostfire Belt. Is it good without the Ring? and even for M+? Icy Veins guide lists it but wowhead doesnt

[toxic pewter]

I personally am a fan of the frofire belt I may make it next cuz I do m+ a lot

[lusty grotto]

you can generate a lot of rage by stepping back and charging in during raids esp when you are not actively tanking and/or if the boss is casting

[toxic pewter]

I heard from some guy wearing it it did 5ish% of his overall

[strong forum]

then that dude did fuckall dmg

cuz the belt does moreso around 1%

[toxic pewter]

Ok cancel frostfire belt

LOL

That guy sucks

[compact jackal]

lariat + helm or lariat + bracers or lariat + spikes tbh

[unreal marlin]

spikes go on every slot?

or is it for armor/shield only?

[compact jackal]

I think any armor slot

+shield

[unreal marlin]

damn, early 418 weapon wiht spikes would be neat i guess

[compact jackal]

I think weapon can't get it and instead can get the fanged adornment

[unreal marlin]

but spikes > fangs esp in m+ right?

[strong forum]

all of the embellishments are ~1% dps

it doesnt matter this much guys

[cobalt badge]

yeah fangs are pretty low dps increase for me

[civic holly]

how much extra crit block chance will blue silver lining add?

[mellow quartz]

@strong forum

excuse me?

[toxic pewter]

Guys make engi bracers get a brez that prob can make huge difference

[strong forum]

hello 🙂

[prisma crane]

Hell yea thanks!

[strong forum]

ya i press shield slam gud

[mellow quartz]

what kind of black magic is that

[lusty grotto]

qt sense ftw

[compact jackal]

Look at it this way imo, spikes and helm do nothing if you're not taking damage.

[lusty grotto]

[strong forum]

single handedly getting pwar dmg nerfed

[toxic pewter]

That’s hardcore dam

[wide fiber]

any weakaura that tracks revenge! procs? id like to know when i have it, but not good enough with the addon to make one myself

[lusty grotto]

i think the game has a default one

like lines on the side of your character iirc

[civic holly]

weak auras revenge template tracks it too and glows when its procced

[mellow quartz]

when you hope for a good key and it turns into

😦

[strong forum]

lowkey

last boss sucks

[mellow quartz]

get a lock

easy

[strong forum]

that shit takes ages with 5tank

[mellow quartz]

change to destro before last boss and its a joke

[strong forum]

the dot is what fucks us

no dispells

[compact jackal]

It's nice that it only has 3 bosses at least.

[strong forum]

[mellow quartz]

5 bdks

[strong forum]

the secret way to have the boss live for 30minutes

[mellow quartz]

do you even have dps to kill adds with 5 tanks?

[strong forum]

yeah thats no issue

boss just has so much health

shit took like 4 minutes on 16

need more ilvl

[civic holly]

nomeratur i saw your post saying the embe's are 0.5-1% dps increase, is there much difference between the embis for survivalness?

[compact jackal]

Oh hey, class tuning for the 20th is out. We avoided the hammer.

[mellow quartz]

spell block is such a nice button in that place tbh

[strong forum]

not any relevant ones

all tank avoided everything

these are raid changes

and i guess a bit of pvp

[compact jackal]

I like seeing big numbers. "Pandemic Invocation damage increased 500%."

[civic holly]

i got a 395 CoS haste/vers socketed neck drop, maybe i make something other than lariat then that just covers a low ilvl piece?

[strong forum]

yeah absolutely

lariat is overvalued af

[civic holly]

thanks

[unreal marlin]

are spikes and helm basicly the same?

[strong forum]

helm is a bit more dmg

[lilac bloom]

having problem with raz on last boss of raid

[compact jackal]

I haven't checked in a while, but spikes are just under half the damage of the helm with 6 ppm and helm is 3.5

[strong forum]

now imagine if i had a good weapon

btw

still have shitty 382, meanwhile dh in my group has 405

[inland raft]

is our stat prio haste/crit now instead of haste/vers like was in sl?

[strong forum]

both are fine

[mellow quartz]

me and my 379 weapon though

[strong forum]

crit is more dmg, vers is tiny bit more safety cushion

[fading tide]

What’s your guys play with the first boss in court of stars? You get all 3 pylons or just go for 2

[lilac bloom]

his electric jaws hits hard been using spell reflect and shield any hints jsut to get pass phase 1? and also his random hits just kills

[mellow quartz]

get 2 for the faster RP at the end

[strong forum]

there are 5 pylons

usually you clear 4-5

depending on availability

[compact jackal]

3 in his arena and 2 going to him isn't it?

[strong forum]

ye

[mellow quartz]

the add is largely irrelevant if you leave 1 up

[strong forum]

yea

its more funnel for us

[compact jackal]

However, you're getting the one thing if you leave it up

DPS brains

[strong forum]

the add has like 700k hp

itll just die to cleave

[compact jackal]

I just like watching DPS die to really easy to avoid stuff ngl

[fading tide]

What mythic plus does quaking kick in

[strong forum]

5 or 7

[mellow quartz]

7

and its 4 and 7, not 5 lol

[loud patrol]

is there any WA or something to make thundering easier to see on other players?

[compact jackal]

So far I hate Azure Vaults the most this season.

[strong forum]

how would i know bruh

[mellow quartz]

been the same levels forever

[mellow quartz]

yes if they have a WA also, which most people have by now

well I say most, depends on which kind of keys you do I suppose

[loud patrol]

my pugs barely know what an interrupt is

[slim dove]

link kicks after each boss

[loud patrol]

ohh i like that strat

im gonna start saying: "the one who kicks more casts in the dungeons wins 1k gold"

[lusty grotto]

or dont

and just link it

and then watch carefully as they try to read it

occasionally they'll realize their mistake, which is also entertaining

[slim dove]

no mercy for mdps that have less kicks than my mage

[autumn atlas]

What are the chances the execute nerfs to arms end up hitting prot? Same spell I’d right?

[loud patrol]

didnt they already nerfed execute?

[autumn atlas]

New patch notes

[loud patrol]

what nerf

[lusty grotto]

nerfs?

[autumn atlas]

I’m blind

Reading is hard

[lusty grotto]

also yes that wont apply to prot

[autumn atlas]

Buffs, we’ll then… still same spell id?

No? Okay

[lusty grotto]

spells have spec modifiers

remember

[loud patrol]

i hope arms doesnt become an overtuned spec that feels bad to play

[autumn atlas]

I just know that about half of the number tuning on beta for arms ended up affecting prot too.

[sweet summit]

:modcheck:

[lusty grotto]

hey man

[strong forum]

There is a chance it may apply to us

[lusty grotto]

i want my arms off spec

[strong forum]

Arms is historically way better to play than fury

[lusty grotto]

as a gigachad fury disliker

[strong forum]

And thats my totally not subjective fact opinion

[lusty grotto]

gibe arms pls

[shut flare]

does ignor pain have any other effect or it just straight up does what it's said. no buffs whatsoever when casted?

[strong forum]

I wanna fiddle around with arms but I would have to make the UI first and learn the buttons so I cba

[strong forum]

Does what it says

[lusty grotto]

its rage spent, which feeds in to Anger Management and Outburst

[loud patrol]

im tired of the carpal tunnel that fury is

[strong forum]

Fury is just 300 flavours of the same button idk

Every button feels uneventful

[loud patrol]

theres no worst feeling than going against a giant enemy and the rampage sounds like it missed

i actually feel my dps falling

[fast dagger]

Anyone know where the link to the spell reflect weak aura is? I saw it somewhere but I forget. I didn't see it in the pins

[sturdy sable]

Its sounds like your hitting a wet bag of meat with a couple of sticks i hate it

[thorny stone]

https://wago.io/tDT26wrXg

[fast dagger]

Thank you!!

[slim dove]

aint nobody genuinely enjoying playing fury rn

3 button spec + swifty macro

garbagge

[devout pewter]

guys, a curiosity, what crafted pieces are you making?

[slim dove]

neck and shield so far.

[sweet summit]

i love it

[compact jackal]

shield, bracers, neck in 2 weeks

[devout pewter]

you can't do a maximum of 2 sorry?

[loud patrol]

dont use embelishment on the shield

ezz

[devout pewter]

I have noticed that many are using this belt here

[compact jackal]

🤢

[sturdy sable]

It actually does alot of damage

And isnt a tier slot

[devout pewter]

RWF guilds are mostly doing this, so maybe it'll do some good for them

[compact jackal]

not being a tier slot is it's only benefit lol

[sturdy sable]

It does good damage lol thats legitimately the reason ppl are using it

[compact jackal]

I kid you not this is the part that makes no sense to me with it

[sturdy sable]

And i believe it enables that raid ring for classes that cannot use it otherwise

[compact jackal]

it's lower ppm than the helm and less damage than the helm which is weird

dude, I saw a casino build ele sham with the ring

it was insane

[devout pewter]

I made the weapon that does extra physical damage, but I don't know if I got a good deal

[compact jackal]

the adornment?

it's actually pretty strong

[icy citrus]

wtf does this trinket do?

[compact jackal]

6+haste ppm, just under half the damage of the helm

[stark fox]

Besides lariat are there any other items we should be sparking or just whatever?

[slim dove]

damage, healing, shielding. big bag of shit

[compact jackal]

can I have the fourth option please?

[slim dove]

you can "favor" a proc by using the 1day CD effect

[slim dove]

dm me postal box, gimme 5-10 business days

[compact jackal]

PO Box 8675309 Beverly Hills CA

[sturdy sable]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=195480/seal-of-diurnas-chosen?bonus=7935

@compact jackal

The belt enables this

[compact jackal]

I'm personally surprised it does tbh

[sturdy sable]

Its frost fire damage

[compact jackal]

belt is actually not awful as long as you have it

[sturdy sable]

A eng grenade can trigger this ring

[compact jackal]

It can proc off any tick of damage during the debuff the belt gives?

[sturdy sable]

No idea i dont have either

I just know this is the reason

[compact jackal]

I've had some awful raid RNG myself.

[onyx pike]

what are the recommended sockets for the Lariat? I can't find a pinned msg.

[shut flare]

Does it have any other effect? Im a newbie like shield block example can give you shield slam dmg

[warm plinth]

main stat/haste and two haste/vers @onyx pike

[onyx pike]

tyty

[devout pewter]

i craft this...

Only that I have the impression of having wasted the spark, because it does very little damage

[compact jackal]

yeah, the fanged adornment

6+haste ppm, just under half the helm's damage on proc

it doesn't seem that bad

embellishments in general are minor

[pliant maple]

Anyone have an updated ignore pain weakaura?

[sick sentinel]

i don't need any more helmets currently

got like, 4 purple ones this week so far

[undone verge]

is there a new WA for outburst? My 9.2.5 one hasnt worked since prepatch

[fading tide]

So with dps you have meters to tell if your doing good or bad. What do tanks have?

[undone verge]

dps

[lusty grotto]

the same

[undone verge]

or more generally, living till the end of the boss fight

[sick sentinel]

dps + not die / little healing required

[limpid anchor]

Dps dmg mitigated

[sick sentinel]

if you require no healing and do a bunch of dps as tank its + EV (expected value)

[undone verge]

order of how judging how good you did
1: did you live till the end of the fight?
2: did you do the mechanics correctly and not lose aggro
3: dmg meters
4: mitigation and how independent you were
5: healing

[fading tide]

I just did a 6 court and was the least healed from the healer and had 18.3k dps

[cinder storm]

Dorki showcasing how you can tank a 18 on a 360 assuming your dps can pump

[sick sentinel]

i dunno how much he over heals by, but my dk friend always loves talking about how he out healed the healer

[limpid anchor]

Well that’s just the whole bdk gimmick

[slim dove]

i outheal the healer as prot

🤷

[sick sentinel]

no dmg addons ~~installed ~~ activated so i wouldnt know lol

[limpid anchor]

That’s horrible

[cinder storm]

Is there any items or pots to clear poison? I run with a disc and AA gets spicy, also, the play on tyr might be the tank keeping the tree out of abundance as much as possible?

[sick sentinel]

god fucking damnit

another helmt

[slim dove]

[sick sentinel]

my head is protected

[limpid anchor]

I use bitter on academy

But overall I just start to kite at like 50 stacks if needed

[sleek current]

BiS shield drop from Azure Vault... Not sure if I'll keep it yet or whether I'll make the Molten Defender but, it's nice to have it.

[cinder storm]

I was looking to use that as last resource, didn't want a talent to use it one time

[sick sentinel]

if we have a proc for vengence and a proc for shield slam and were at full rage, what is prio?

[cinder storm]

IP then Revenge then Shield

[limpid anchor]

You don’t give up that much, and the cleanse saves the pull sometimes :)

[sleek current]

Dump Rage, Revenge, Shield. 😄

[cinder storm]

Think you can use two revenges there before shield

[limpid anchor]

But ye it’s shitty, I’m also playing with a priest

And that boss sucks

[sick sentinel]

IP just for defense?

[limpid anchor]

Also, focus the tree hard

[cinder storm]

Yeah for sure, Im just worried about tyrannical at this point

[sleek current]

IP or Shield Block, as long as you dump that rage. You're wasting rage if you're capped.

[cinder storm]

Swap that wolf for 5 bears

[sleek current]

You pull the bears?

[cinder storm]

Yes, after boss, its easier to kite

[sleek current]

The only trash I pull there is drag and 3 wolf packs. Then I'm out.

[thick turtle]

so ur saying

skip the wolves

me last night: i can pull 5 wolves

also me:

[cinder storm]

5 wolves is enough for %

[thick turtle]

[sleek current]

Hahaha

[cinder storm]

Unless you plan on skipping the 3 adds before the valkyr boss

[sleek current]

I'm regularly pulling 5 wolves on +10 - +12 right now.

I don't skip them because they're easy trash. I basically kill everything except 2 packs in the main area.

[limpid anchor]

I pull bears wolfs and bulls :)

For the extra tank fun

[sleek current]

Psychopath. 😂

[limpid anchor]

It’s way faster

And more fun to run

[sleek current]

I've found the bulls are a sure fire way to kill the DPS in the pugs I've been running.

[tender cove]

having maint during friday primetime gaming should be illegal, just saying..

[limpid anchor]

Well ye I wouldn’t pull them in pure pugs

Or with pure meele

[limpid anchor]

When is it?

[tender cove]

now

[sleek current]

Right now. 😄

[limpid anchor]

Eu seems fine :)

[sleek current]

That is EU

[tender cove]

We're eu yeh

[limpid anchor]

Okay but that’s not prime time kek

[tender cove]

talk for yourself normie, we're degens here

[sleek current]

2:30am for me... I mean... I guess it's not prime time. It's prime time for me. 😂

[tender cove]

yeh, i mean, i dont even start gaming serious until 22-23 on weekdays

[sleek current]

If I didn't have a massive headache I'd still be slamming keys. Haha

[limpid anchor]

The first +20 key had a brew

[cinder storm]

Wasnt the first done by the Azralon team with a pwar?

[sleek current]

Honestly mate, forgetting to refresh shield block is a death sentence right now. Lol

[limpid anchor]

I don’t think blizz listens to that crying anyway

[pulsar sedge]

I mean.. It is fort week

[tender cove]

Right mindset, wrong approach... You do like BDK and just scream for buffs saying we're dying to everything and this can't possible be what blizz had in vision for us and we demand buffs, buffs buffs more buffs

Doing it your way is an easy tell saying we're bluffing

[slim flower]

I walked into my +12 Temple at 379 ilvl and I felt like I was dying the entire time ;(. I feel very squishy now after that lol

[tender cove]

I suspect we'll have pretty massive tuning going into week 2 of s1

[sleek current]

Ooooh. Temple...

[lusty grotto]

what is this meme

[sleek current]

Anyone had the bug with the water boss yet where his Wash Away (Beam) doesn't move but, the hitbox still moves and kills everyone?

[slim flower]

^ yeah, healer got murdered by that

[limpid anchor]

Bcs you/ the team fail mechanics

[tender cove]

still, temple felt manageable... Ruby is the only place that is just evil on several layers evil at the same time... Just the cancer dragons actually scaling with fort+raging is just retarded....its making me triggered...

[sleek current]

I reported it as a bug so hopefully it gets fixed soon. Absolutely reamed us in a +10. Lol

[slim flower]

Well yeah, I'm a subpar player with random pugs, that's what happens

[limpid anchor]

I don’t think any of the m+ are pug friendly

[sleek current]

Shadowmoon is cake.

[limpid anchor]

Everything, especially ruby, needs constant interrupts and stuns

Ah well, shadow ye

[sleek current]

Halls is cake (for the most part)

[cinder storm]

I find it annoying, I was pwar through the whole SL, had to experience flaming, people dissing the class and all that while DHs, Bears and BDKs were dancing we were the guy in the corner.

Now we are good and fun, and people dont want warrior because some top tanks prefer easier tanks than pwar.

[limpid anchor]

Such a joke compared to the others

[thick turtle]

have had multiple bugs on that boss

[tender cove]

Halls is my new favroite, it both fun AND easy 😛

[mellow quartz]

@shut summit spell blockable abilities in Temple for your sheet
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Y6KF4WcTfLNh81xm/#fight=10&type=damage-taken&source=6&sourcebuffs=392966

[tender cove]

shadow is just boring but easy.

[cinder storm]

send it

[mellow quartz]

wait why does that link go to an AA wtf

[cinder storm]

rofl

[sleek current]

Worst dungeons so far have got to be... Ruby Life Pools and Temple from my experience.

[cinder storm]

Ruby is hard on the healers, Temple is hard on us (without the right talents and proper play)

[sleek current]

The main issue with Ruby is the Flame Dancers. It's a one shot from +7 onwards. People just need to learn it can be stunned to stop it. I've just been letting people know and the runs have gone way smoother.

[cinder storm]

I find the first boss easy, people run to me and we can delete little dragons, last boss I think we have to bait dps to move where we want puddles to drop

[eager fractal]

You guys like heavy reprecussions in keys?

[cinder storm]

I always have my stormbolt ready for them most of the time

[eager fractal]

I should probably run it but it hurts to lose all the haste 😒

[sleek current]

I sometimes even hold off on using Shield Charge. Usually though, Intimidating Shout, Shockwave can take care of it.

[cinder storm]

Yes

[sleek current]

I love it especially because with the haste we have right now shield block is on a 14 second CD where I'm used to 11 seconds from SL.

[eager fractal]

Ye i should probably swap to it then

[sleek current]

Azure Vault is an awesome dungeon... Until last boss. 😂

[violet violet]

what are everyones thoughts on the burgeoning seed trinket?

[sleek current]

Never heard of it. What's it do?

[sick sentinel]

if everyone dies but you, and you solo the boss, this happens

[hard vessel]

Depends on key level and which boss

[sleek current]

It's only uldaman. 😄 For the people saying "perfectly balanced"

It's good play though, staying alive after everyone dies.

[tender cove]

but that mechanic is it ? Tnat they made such a specific achivement for?

[hard vessel]

If it's only uldaman, it can only be M0 and there nothing does even dmg to any tankn

[sleek current]

Even a Monk could've done it. Though I want to point out, I'm not saying yogi didn't play well just that the people talking about balance don't know what they're talking about. Lol

[rough gate]

its for getting stunned at the same time as a boss

[sleek current]

Brilliant. 😂

So if everyone is dead... The entire party counts as just the person alive?

[rough gate]

ya

still Pog tho, soloing the m0 bosses when everyone dies is the best part of m0

[sleek current]

One of my greatest moments was solo'ing +21 final boss of Upper Karazhan after everyone died in phase 2 and +13 last boss of Workshop back in BFA.

Good times.

[sick sentinel]

There is no best part of m0

[hard vessel]

M0 just is way to easy and not fun at all

[sleek current]

Last boss in Karazhan was such a cheese for Prot Warrior. We were top DPS every time because of spell reflect. The boss killed himself.

[full monolith]

Any tips for Fenryr in HoV? Is there a way to not trigger his 12yd swipe that often? Seen streams where he seems to use that ability less often than in our runs... we stack for swipe coz the damage is shared and ignores armor

[hard vessel]

True but just saw dorki tanking a +18 academy on his 363 ilvl prot warrior, this kinda feels a little bit out of the line

[sleek current]

It's Dorki. Lol

[hard vessel]

If this is your argument it's like omega bad

[rough gate]

going from having a 4-5 stack in SL keys to basically pugging everything so far is night and day

[sleek current]

Dorki is not representative of the typical player base. That's my arguement.

[sleek current]

My group is not as enthusiastic right now, too busy with life and what not. They're pretty far behind me iLvl wise, so I've ditched them for the time being to pug. Looking forward to when they catch up. Haha

[rough gate]

I wish i had the bois back together but everyone either quit or are kinda just doin their own thing lmao

[sleek current]

Re-roll Fury and I'll tank for you. 😉

[rough gate]

now i gotta pray that a rando kicks in temple of the jade serpent lmao

I wanna try dps but i feel like id eat so much shit haha

[sleek current]

I have to DPS for half of our raids. It's sad.

[rough gate]

raid tankings a snoozer i feel like

[sleek current]

I'd still rather be tanking. DPS is not for me, I don't enjoy big damn. My fantasy is the beefy orc that can withstand a nuke.

[sick sentinel]

soloed every boss except first because "healer is new and doesn't hit buttons" according to a dps

[sleek current]

The dungeon was completed that's what matters my man. 🙂

[short plover]

what embellishments do we take?

[sleek current]

Elemental Lariat or Infurious Helm of Venegance but, Helm takes a potential tier spot so... Armour Spikes on Shield maybe if you want. More info in the pins.

[sleek current]

I think stats are pre-determined on the helm as well, so with shield you get to decide stats and it's recraftable.

[lusty grotto]

helm is crit versa yes

[toxic pewter]

Are there any embellished rings or embellishments that can go on rings

Kinda considering one since comes with a socket

[jolly silo]

died in HoV on Hyrja cus normally the DPS kill it before the need to switch (sub 10 keys) and they got pissed I didnt move.. fk em lol

[lusty grotto]

that sounds to me like its entirely your fault

and i side with dps

dont be an ass

[sly prism]

are we saying shield + lariat for first two sparks?

[inland mesa]

I have a 402 sword and shield so I'm debating on helm

[slender blade]

this kind of topic has come up a couple times today, I love your responses lol

[lusty grotto]

i mean its entirely different scenarios

[slender blade]

oh okay sry

[lusty grotto]

stacks on RLP are healer's job of course its fine to be upset about no cleanses

but what he mentions is just him being a douche

on the hyrja shit

[slender blade]

i didnt see the RLP stuff, was thinking of smth else

[oblique drift]

What is the meta strat for handling thundering in pugs?

[lusty grotto]

its not dps fault that he dies to not swapping

[cerulean tusk]

Everyone hugs

[lusty grotto]

basic fucking hyrja 101

[slim dove]

lmao ignoring tank mechanic because your expecting pugs to do X amount of dps

[toxic pewter]

I’m busy tanking everyone else hug and leave me along

[oblique drift]

Yeah I do that and get stunned out the ass

[toxic pewter]

Lolol

[cerulean tusk]

hug more

[toxic pewter]

Ok hug melee

[oblique drift]

I really don't like this affix as a tank

[toxic pewter]

BUT THATS WHERE I STOP

[oblique drift]

at least for pugs

[cerulean tusk]

Well, ranged DPS wont move in, melee dps wont move out. You cant turn about because of frontals. Just enjoy life and hug

[idle inlet]

I hate chasing dps during last 3s of Thundering...AND THEM RUNNING AWAY FROM ME

[oblique drift]

😭

[toxic pewter]

I’m busy tunnel vissioning

[idle inlet]

Aaaand then we both get stunned and die

[modern brook]

draft

[oblique drift]

Is it possible to get over three golden doo-dad gizmo widgets on crafted items right now?

[mellow quartz]

1-5

[oblique drift]

I see there's four cerulean thingies and one fat-massive orange blob too as tiers above it

so crafters can actually get up to 5?

[mellow quartz]

5 being the big orange pentagon thing

[oblique drift]

I didn't know if it was timegated or something

[mellow quartz]

if they are super specialized and have all the max level mats provided etc

[oblique drift]

ah okay

thank you!

[lone copper]

rank 5s will mostly require inspiration procs

[spring coyote]

For instance, I'm maxed out in belts + fine armor + armor smithing + hammer control, so I have
+120 skill on belts,
+90 on gloves and wrists
+60 on all other armor
+30 on weapons and tools

Belts I can 5* anything without inspiration pretty much, some wrists and gloves. Everything else I can generally 5* with inspiration. I'm also maxed in inspiration so my inspiration gives a higher bonus

[sly prism]

what would you recommend crafting first? gone for shield first but not sure whether to Lariat or Wep 2nd

spark wise that is

[cinder storm]

Shield, then weapon if weapon is low, then lariat

If you have a good ilvl weapon you can go for lariat

[lilac bloom]

i tried tp do rasz on normal but getting hit hard by electric jaw what am i doing wrong i do spell reflect shield and still get hit hard plus went to p2 trying to tank adds end up dying and got kicked cos healer says im hard to heal. Im 375 ilevel do i need higher ilevel?

[sleek current]

Ah, looks like they fixed the wash away bug in the recent hotfix. It should now spin around correctly. 😄

So, no more surprise deaths

[sleek current]

How many stacks are you swapping on? Do you have Shield Block and IP up? Spell Reflect will help mitigate the nature damage but, the hit is mainly physical. Consider saving Demoralising Shout for the hit.

Better yet, do you have a log?

[lilac bloom]

every 1

no ididnt have log ill have to log next time.

i did have ip up but still hits hard

[mellow umbra]

Does anyone know if BSV is still buggged?

[lilac bloom]

im wondering my vers is 11 is that too low?

my ilevel is 375

[sleek current]

Not particularly. It'll help but, shouldn't be the deciding factor. I think probably just make sure you're saving Demo Shout and SR for the hit.

More iLvl will always help but, I don't think 375 is too low.

[warm plinth]

Literally does not matter

[warm plinth]

It is

[mellow umbra]

So still procing premit then

alright ty

[lilac bloom]

ok thx i just im not mitigating much or too im too low

something was wrong i was ok then starts to hit me hard

[sleek current]

I don't know without a log I couldn't tell you. Sorry mate.

[safe relic]

hi everyone! im new here and reading i have a doubt (maybe it's a dumb one, so be nice) heavy repercussion or into the fray? is there some amount of haste to go for one above the other?

[sleek current]

Heavy Repercussions

[lilac bloom]

np it was learning for me ill log when i do it again

[sleek current]

If you run ITF, you need to run Bolster otherwise your shield block uptime just isn't going to be there. Without SB you are going to get slapped.

[safe relic]

yeah, thinking it that way you're right

ty

[lusty grotto]

hi friend-role Ghash

[keen epoch]

Hello guys, how good is the shield of hearth? worth to spend one of my sparks there?

[sleek current]

Nah, just make a primal molten defender with an armour spike if you want a shield. 😄

[coarse flower]

Anyone know if the wrist embellishment is worth crafting compared to the others this early on?

[stiff gate]

what wep embellishments are people running?

[silk cliff]

So do we play spellblock for temple?

[sleek current]

Only way to find out is give it a go.

[civic olive]

ayo did they remove the ability to give shield wall to your party?? I can't find it anywhere now

[torn gust]

ye they removed it

[wicked fossil]

Fang or the echo dmg/healing one, but care helm + waist embel might be better

[ornate thunder]

Whatever talent it is that makes heroic throw hit everything is next to godliness

[worldly wing]

is this worth spending valor on? or wait for a higher one?

[inland mesa]

I have a 402 helm and shield, made a lariat, thinking helm for the other spark? Anyone else have one and like it?

[main pulsar]

Any reason to hard cast Rend ever?

over Thunderclap

?

[royal coral]

TC does both so i highly doubt it

[main pulsar]

TC?

[last pebble]

Talents for temple?

[royal coral]

Thunderclap

[wicked fossil]

Would wait, not worth

[shut flare]

in raids what stance do we use initially? battle or defensive

[wicked fossil]

Up to you how you feel, I went battle till mythic third boss so far, many have done it

Or do you mean initially on pull only?

[shut flare]

i mean in general like you leave it always on battle

even if you are on taunt?

[wicked fossil]

Yea, mostly battle stance, but its handy to have a macro to swap around, so you can mitigate tank hits if you need to

[wary heath]

just got this banger

lord knows how long until head tier will drop anyway

[lusty tiger]

⛽

Gz on that gas bro

[sleek current]

If that fails you can always pick it up on the 23rd of January when catalyst goes live. 😄

[main pulsar]

anyone play multiple tanks?

thinkin of tryin DK

[sonic ember]

Is there a guide or list of what's best for us to get crafted instead of farming a piece for a slot?

[sleek current]

When I run out of gear to get on my Warrior. I dabble in BDK and Tankadin

[sleek current]

Check the pins

[sonic ember]

I didn't see anything other than wowhead's gear list

And I didn't see it in there. Maybe I overlooked it

[sleek current]

"Which embellishments should I use"

[sonic ember]

ohhhh

I see it

[lusty grotto]

shield > weap/lariat

[main pulsar]

whats a lariat

[sonic ember]

neck

[sleek current]

The thing you're being charged 50k crafting fee for. 😄

[main pulsar]

Is there a reason i see it talked about so much

[sleek current]

2% damage increase... It can wait in my opinion. Until it's below 5k. Lol

[main pulsar]

new to WoW

[lusty grotto]

why is 50k a problem

[sleek current]

I'm not spending 50k on a piece of gear

I can wait 2 weeks and it'll be 10k

[lusty grotto]

🤷

[wicked fossil]

Lariat simmed less for me than the head or waist embelishment, thoughts?

[main pulsar]

sim broke

[wicked fossil]

Also someone said recently they fixed a bug on the neck proc or something

Both prot warrs from liquid dont play the lariat so idk

[grand bridge]

I feel like 50k for an extremely expensive crafting recipe alongside a bunch of time spent on leveling and specializing in a profession is pretty reasonable

[wicked fossil]

We will see what echo does

[grand bridge]

Also getting it now will prevent you from needing to use 3x medallions again in the future to socket your neck

[lusty grotto]

yeah

its reasonable

it also depends on the server

[sleek current]

Sure... But 50k is 10% of my wealth. Additionally, if I just wait 2 weeks it'll be 40k cheaper and I'm already pushing +13 and up with relative easy. I don't NEED a 2% power increase.

[lusty grotto]

low/medium especially low raiding pop will be obviously higher

because less crafters with it

your... wealth?

your virtual currency

🤔

[sleek current]

Yes, you know. The thing I use to buy things in the game.

If I bought a neck for 50k... I just lost 10% of it? Lol

[lusty grotto]

once again 🤷

[sick sentinel]

Good luck with your mentality of it going down to 10k in two weeks

[sleek current]

It will mate. Don't worry. It's already dropped 30k in 3 days on Stormscale.

[lusty grotto]

psst gold is fake

[sleek current]

Yes, gold is fake but, if I spend it all... I'll run out and can't buy anything. 😂

[lusty grotto]

and easily regained if you really care that much

[sick sentinel]

You can make 50k in like an hour

[sleek current]

I don't care that much about making gold. I have amassed all the gold I will have the entire expansion in the first week. I'm done. Lol

[lusty grotto]

what else are you gonna use it for?

[sleek current]

Maybe a nice mount will come on the auction house and I want it?

[lusty grotto]

youre at half a mil

you need a shitton more than that

[sleek current]

It was an example. Lol

[lusty grotto]

so basically

youre hoarding

[sleek current]

Who knows what the mcguffin will be but, if it appears I want to be able to buy it.

[lusty grotto]

🤔

[sleek current]

I'm spending it wisely. 😂

[lusty grotto]

its not real money

so hoarding it is

[sleek current]

I know.

Is there a problem with hoarding it? Do you want my gold? Is that what this is?

[sick sentinel]

If you want a mount that bad, 50k ain't gonna be the end all for you

[sleek current]

Why are you trying to convince me to spend my gold? 😂

[main pulsar]

give me your gold

[sick sentinel]

You're the weirdo that saves a bazooka "for the right time" and then it never comes so then you end the game with a bazooka.

[sleek current]

You can't have it!

Weirdo. 😂

Mate, if I didn't need my bazooka... Why use it?

[lusty grotto]

it is what it is

[sleek current]

I finished the game without using it. So, I clearly didn't need it.

[lusty grotto]

either way lariat seems worth it so try not to be too dismissive due to it being too expensive for your tastes

[lusty tiger]

Will buy a 500k mount but not a 50k neck

Tru

[sick sentinel]

lol

[sleek current]

A neck that'll be 80% cheaper in two weeks?

Mount likely won't be any cheaper in 2 weeks.

[lusty tiger]

really boycotting that borrowed power

[main pulsar]

mounts are obsolete with dragonriding

[sleek current]

It's risk / reward mate.

[lusty grotto]

are you sure?

[sick sentinel]

There's a risk?

[lusty grotto]

they just gave out a feldrake worth how much REAL money?

[main pulsar]

average mount fan versus dragonriding enjoyer

[sleek current]

The risk is I spend 50k and it's potentially 10k in two weeks.

[sick sentinel]

There's no risk in buying Lariat my friend.

I don't think risk means what you think it means

[lusty tiger]

40k, for a 2wk early power spike

Ez

[lusty grotto]

its not even 50k in all servers

[lusty tiger]

2% is like a talent node

[sleek current]

I'm pushing +13 and I'm happy with it. What do I need a 2% increase for? I get to +20 and basically stop... Lol

[sick sentinel]

So then in two weeks, you won't buy Lariat?

[lusty tiger]

If u stop what do u need gold for

[main pulsar]

If you know you're gonna stop, why play the game at all? Why even own a PC tbh

[sleek current]

If it's 10k, I'll definitely pick it up as I round out my gear.

I won't stop playing the game. I'll stop pushing keys.

[lusty tiger]

So youll have time to farm more gold

[sick sentinel]

Why are you even buying Lariat then?

[main pulsar]

Pushing keys IS the game

[sleek current]

No, it's not.

It's the game for YOU. Not me.

[sick sentinel]

What are you buying Lariat for at all then?

[main pulsar]

No it's the game for you too Blizzard told me

[sleek current]

So I can have a nice set of BiS gear to look at enjoyingly in my void storage.

[main pulsar]

The game for ME is ERP in goldshire inn

[lusty tiger]

ERP m+

[dapper nest]

The game for me is my 50k. Been thinking about spending it all on lariat though seems worth it

Even if its 100% of my wealth

[main pulsar]

im pushing +20 there

[sick sentinel]

NOT YOUR WEALTH!

[sleek current]

Enjoy that. I'm not stopping you despite Oswin and the other guy trying to make it seem like I am. Lol

[lusty tiger]

😈

[lusty grotto]

stopping what

[sick sentinel]

Not your completely unreplenishable wealth!

[lusty tiger]

So

[sick sentinel]

:)

[lusty tiger]

Like

My brain

[sleek current]

Him buying lariat.

[lusty tiger]

Cannot understand

[sick sentinel]

Poor Nim

"the other guy"

[lusty tiger]

Yea lol

That darn other guy

[sick sentinel]

D:

[sleek current]

He was too far up in the chat. I couldn't be arsed to scroll up.

[dapper nest]

[sick sentinel]

You just seem like a lazy dude, not a financially savvy dude.

[sleek current]

Woah. Getting personal now. Calm down mate.

[sick sentinel]

HUh

[lusty tiger]

Buy the neck and enjoy that’s what having gold is for

[sleek current]

"lazy dude, not a financially savvy dude." literally attacking my character and you say "huh" 😂

[dapper nest]

Gold is there so I can stare at it

[lusty tiger]

Live your best warrior life

[dapper nest]

Duh

[sick sentinel]

We've been calling you out for not wanting to spend the gold for "mUh WeAlTh" reasons, how was that not person but this is?

[sleek current]

I am, my man with all of my 500k wealth.

[dapper nest]

[lusty tiger]

Tru

So no consumes then?

[sleek current]

Nah, I break the bank for them.

[lusty tiger]

Too financially risky for now

[dapper nest]

Consumea are for try hards

[sleek current]

Phial of Eye in the Storm is just too good.

[lusty grotto]

im confused what are you not stopping

[lusty tiger]

Maybe 11.0 prepatch you will afford rank3 consumes

[sick sentinel]

Is valor maxed out at 1500 for the season, even once you spend it you can't get more?

I'll be following up on your Lariat adventures in two weeks

[sleek current]

No, it'll go up week by week.

[sick sentinel]

750 each week

[sleek current]

I'll let you know. 🙂

[sick sentinel]

Please don't.

I will come to you, don't worry

Ok because I just did a mythic and my valor didn't increase so that's normal until Tuesday?

[lusty tiger]

Yea

[sick sentinel]

yes

Ah lame

[lusty tiger]

Until valor uncaps

[sick sentinel]

Oh well

[limpid pawn]

for last boss of ruby life pools, is it possible to bait dragon breaTHS

or is it random ?

[sleek current]

I think... There is some logic to it but, I haven't figured it out yet. As of this time I'd say "random"

It doesn't typically fire breathe on the right side if we're all stood on the left for example.

[hidden axle]

pugging rasz is awful

are msot ppl doing 2/3/9 or 2/4/12?

[silk cliff]

we did it 2-4-14

but techincally 2-4-13 as we kicked one mid pull

[hidden axle]

lmao

[sleek current]

Would the health have actively dropped mid fight though?

[silk cliff]

no

[sleek current]

Good on the DPS for picking up the slack then. 😄

[silk cliff]

i feel like just surviving P1 with no deaths is enough to kill it

dps check is laughable on normal

seeing as half the raid were close to me in dps

[sleek current]

What was your DPS?

[silk cliff]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kftHDvWgjpTZKCJ3#fight=9&type=damage-done

even played add phase like a degen

could have had a lot more

[sleek current]

That second assassin rogue must've been AFK. 😂

Way that ret paladin was doing alright. I heard they were in the bin.

[inland mesa]

wonder why liquid wars are belt, I dunno what to use my spark on D:

and dps with decoration of flame

[sleek current]

Elemental Lariat, Infurious Helm or Primal Molten Defender with armour spikes.

[lusty grotto]

they are belt cause they went with the first thing that was available

they cant wait for someone to get an RNG recipe

dont think too much about it WF guidls have to gear up as fast as possible

and their choices do not apply to you

[silk cliff]

and if u're crafting week 1 of mythic it really doesnt matter

will get more sparks etc

[inland mesa]

yeah I have a 405 lariat, 402 shield, and 402 weapon, so that's where I'm not sure where to throw the other

[lusty grotto]

then just hold it

at least until you get a primal infusion

then you can get a shield

or a weapon idk

[grand solstice]

Yo, what's the best race for prot now? Horde

[lusty grotto]

if you dont think youll get an infusion in less than 2 weeks, just get helm and be done with it

[lusty grotto]

any

[urban portal]

If you wanna try hard m+ it’s vulpera

[grand solstice]

belf/hm tauren is more useful?

[grand solstice]

meh

[lusty grotto]

whichever of those is fine

just pick whatever you like

[urban portal]

Belf is dungeon dependent

You asked for what’s the best

Plka is one of the best prot wars

And he says vulpera

Nose for trouble is quite insane for hps

Belf is niche

Tauren being a cast isn’t amazing either

[grand solstice]

I see

Ty then :D

[lusty grotto]

plka also does not play vulpera

[grand solstice]

ye cuz who would race change?

it's not worth it

[lusty grotto]

but yes generally its the right choice for ridiculously high keys

but if youre at that level

and want to be min maxing, why stop at horde

just go dwarf and that's that

[urban portal]

He played vulpera for a long time iirc

But ye

[lusty tiger]

Could also be cool and go troll

[urban portal]

But yeah the dwarfs are what you want

[grand solstice]

coz I was horde most of the time. And I raid with horde

[lusty grotto]

i wonder when cross faction guilds are coming around, would really like to go back to alliance

[grand solstice]

not that crazy minmaxer, just a bit

[lusty grotto]

i was talking in general terms

[shut flare]

whats the downside of using defensive stane the whole raid?

low gm iutput?

[urban portal]

You don’t do damage

Damage is what clears raids

[lusty tiger]

^

[urban portal]

As long as you don’t fall over

Which you shouldn’t

[lusty tiger]

Nft business doing well?

[shut flare]

in urog i was like two falling really hard

kurog

while on battle stance

[lusty grotto]

thats probably not battle stance's fault

[shut flare]

did normal on 365 ilvl

hits really hard

is it due to ilvl?

does kurog really hurt like shite?

[lusty grotto]

do you have logs?

[compact jackal]

I should blow my primal infusion on my shield first over my bracers, right?

[lusty grotto]

thats my plan at least

depends what you have available i guess

no i meant

what you'll have available

[shut flare]

how do i start that? im at the primal area and there are no mobs ata all

[compact jackal]

wat

[shut flare]

how do i start for the primal infusion quest

[lusty grotto]

hmm..

this guy is confused

[compact jackal]

Oh, Alexstrasza

Man that's a spicy difficulty

[lusty grotto]

yeah its basically jesus take the inspiration wheel

[compact jackal]

what wheel?

[lusty grotto]

finishing reagents might help though

oh there you go

[compact jackal]

I have literally the max skill possible for shields lmao

[shut flare]

is that the "to tyrhold" quest?

[compact jackal]

Part of me is tempted to drop the flavor pocket for shield spikes until I get my lariat