protection

[stark fox]

So just to make sure I'm not dumb

I should yolo a r5 lariat with no missive and then if it rolls mastery just recraft it?

[limpid anchor]

Recrafting is the same as normal crafting btw

[solar blade]

i dont get recrafting..for me it says the quality of the item goes down

[shut flare]

is lariat the best for us now?

[limpid anchor]

Bcs if you click recrafting, you get a base item. Gotta use the mats for max ilvl AGAIN

[solar blade]

ohhh good to know thanks!

[limpid anchor]

But no spark, so you can just spam it I think

[solar blade]

yeah w/o spark that ive heard

[stark fox]

are there any other items that are worth crafting?

[shut flare]

my daughter is watching moana and maui is more of a prot warrior than a druid wtf

[solar blade]

have not seen the movie yet tho my gf is huge disney fan, has your daughter seen Encanto yet?

ive personally loved the film, these newly released disney films do have some serious editing fr

like they stepped up their game a ton

[remote dawn]

whats best for craft? lariat and belt ?

[compact jackal]

lariat and bracers covers all 3 specs tbh

[haughty bronze]

is there some sort of cutoff for when its worth changing the shield 389 ring for a higher ilvl upgrade?

[solar crown]

is BV still bugged? (yes, it says so in the pins, i just want to make sure its still the case)

[silent anchor]

You guys switching into def stance quite a bit?

I've only ran 2 keys and one last night was a 10 academy. The mobs on the left bridge smack hard with the dot.

[solemn magnet]

I've been running dstance for 10s and up, but maybe I'm just a coward.

[broken mulch]

You mean the 20 daily orders someone can complete? That's only for public orders, personal is unlimited

[silent anchor]

I think when I'm used to the damage then prob back too bstance. But I've ran a 5 vault and a 10 academy lol

[obsidian path]

Whatever you feel like, just keep in mind you can swap whenever

[errant sedge]

Stand in BSatnce 15+ Keys and its fine

[solemn magnet]

Ya you right. I don't need to be in it all the time, but I don't have much faith in some pug healers

[mint imp]

yo, is there WA for prot warr 2-piece tracking?

[silent anchor]

Tbf we went in just after raid and the guild group were way too distracted debating the raid fights n kept dying.

Timed it still, easily. Even with massive fuck ups

Didn't do too bad in dmg

[glacial skiff]

Is there a spell reflect weak aura for dungeons yet?

[compact jackal]

the only thing I touch dstance for is the last pull in shadowmoon before the first boss tbh

[silent anchor]

Gonna smash keys over the weekend. Gonna stay in bstance

[sweet summit]

there is one, but heard it's still janky

[hollow parcel]

what do i want on the Lariet?

[coarse flower]

haste vers

if youre a gamer

[hollow parcel]

alright saw some with haste mast thats why

[coarse flower]

i saw some crit mastery as well (depends on the type of content youre doing)

[charred ivy]

What crafts do we go for in general. I seen on fury guide they had a list. Didn't find on our page. Is the bracers that give versa stacked depending on ppl around you a good choice? As it's also good for fury if wanna be able swap.

[limpid anchor]

You mean haste crit for more dps!

[coarse flower]

ive been going haste vers since legion bro.. i cant change now

[blazing condor]

bro i hate this new ui. Any way you can stack raid frames on top of each other (but not horisontally)

right now groups just expand to the right. before it was two on top of eachother

[limpid anchor]

Change the rows?

[sweet summit]

lariat and wrists are great for multispecing

not sure how strong wrists are for m+ tho

[coarse flower]

bro whats the viability of 1handed swords with arms and fury 😂

[charred ivy]

lariat is the neck right?

[sweet summit]

if they count pets or what

yeah it is

[sweet summit]

arms not at all
fury worse than two handers but it gets the job done

[oak ivy]

Is it acceptable practice to be parsing literal R1 healing and like 10% damage logs just so healers can focus on other things for prog

[charred ivy]

maybe dumb question. but Lariat, makes the socket u put on it. trigger same stat as u put in that socket?

[blazing condor]

cant anymore - it either shows them vertically like that or horisontally which is even dumber

[thick spade]

Hey, is there a way I can check the uptime % during a dungeon for my SB/IP in details ? If not what can use to track this ?

[compact jackal]

Buff uptime, might be from Details Elitism or something

[humble ferry]

Wait how do u get multiple sockets in ur crafted neck

[sweet summit]

depends on the gem, you can see what procs what here
or you could just sim it

[charred ivy]

aha hmm

would only have 1 socket xD

what gem name is Bis for us now?

[sweet summit]

if you only have one gem eligible to proc a stat then that is the only stat you can get

[humble ferry]

How do you get 3 sockets in your crafted neck?

[warm plinth]

3 tiered medallion settings. Quality 1 for 1st, 2 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd

[humble ferry]

Ty!

[charred ivy]

the material quality?

[warm plinth]

No the item itself

[charred ivy]

aha so i cant choose if i place order?

[warm plinth]

Are you talking about the neck?

The quality of the neck doesn't impact your sockets as far as I know

[charred ivy]

ye. i wanna place order and get as good as possible ofc. but im not that into system yet

[warm plinth]

Yeah I'm not either. But you can't pick quality if it's a public order anyway

[charred ivy]

dang so i need know someone with jewelcrafting for 3 sockets

[warm plinth]

well you should just be able to buy the settings off the AH I believe?

[rain adder]

not if you want a certain quality

[delicate nest]

No, you just get the neck at whatever quality, doesn't matter in regards to sockets. You use a Quality 2 setting to add a second socket, then a quality 3 setting to add a 3rd. They can just be bought off the AH

[storm merlin]

You can buy the settings off the AH just fine
Just don't be an idiot and use the quality 3 you bought as the first one

Quality 1 setting can add up to 1 socket
Quality 2 setting can add up to 2
Quality 3 up to 3 sockets

So the cheapest is probably 2 quality 2s and a quality 3, at least last I checked

[solar crown]

If you craft an item with 'bad quality' Primal Motel Alloy, will that decrease the quality of the item?
And, if so, can you replace the 'bad primal molten alloy' when you recraft? So you can craft a cheap 1st item, then upgrade it as the game progresses

[storm merlin]

You don't lose quality crafting with bad mats, but you gain quality crafting with good mats
If you want to replace the bad mats you can recraft 3 times with higher tier mats, there was a blue post about it a short while ago

[solar crown]

Ok, so lets say I craft a Primal Motel longsword with lvl1 alloys. Then i want to add a primal infusion and use some better alloys, that is the 'way its done now'?

[storm merlin]

It'll replace some of the bad alloys, but not all of it. I can't remember exactly how it worked

[solar crown]

Ok, thanks. I'll try to figure it out

Its very confusing tbh. I like the idea behind it, it just doesn't work that well. Might be just me

[storm merlin]

Yeah it's pretty dumb, but what can you expect from blizzard

[faint jay]

hiya guys n girls, why is it recommended to craft the shield without the vers proc instead of the one with the proc

[eager phoenix]

vers proc version counts as 1 of your 2 embellishments. you most likely want another 1 than the shield

[faint jay]

apart from lariat what would be the other embellishment?

[eager phoenix]

wowhead guide mentions embellishments

under gear/bis chapter, at the bottom iirc

[rough pike]

Is there a cap on haste?

or soft cap?

[jagged pier]

no

[rough pike]

Thanks

[proven canopy]

Is it okay to drop Thunderlord, and just use Demo Shout when Avatar comes back due to Anger Management? I Don't feel like I can fit another Demo in between Avatars (with Thunderlord)

[grave crane]

Yeah if that’s how you want to play, I like spamming demo shout as much as possible for the DR and damage amp and free rage

[pallid quiver]

If you drop Thunderlord, it's usually swapped with Battering Ram

More occurrences of autos means more Shield Slams

[steady steppe]

Is the warrior buff in court of stars worth doing?

[proven canopy]

Thank you all

[zealous willow]

Guys do u think set bonus is a must for m+ push ?

I mean 15-20 keys

[hollow parcel]

what Embellishment are you guys getting?

[jagged pier]

no

tier set is 4%

its kinda whatever

[zealous willow]

thanks, i dont want to push my self to go for set atm

[jagged pier]

and as ive been doing 15s-17s without it already

[zealous willow]

Is it good to use sparks for 1h and shield atm ?

[green prawn]

boys, ruby welp shell - stat or dmg proc

[pallid quiver]

So you're saying yer a hacker

applyin' a little bit of that there cheat engine

[jagged pier]

im not hacking or good

so anyone is able to do what i do

[zealous willow]

I have 2 sparks should i make 1h and shield with them ?

[jagged pier]

u can

[heavy surge]

Hi guys, quick question from my side - why shield slam is higher in the rotation vs revenge in AOE situations? Is due to the fact that shield slam generates rage or sth else?

[heavy temple]

any suggestions of what to skip for battel scarred veteran?

[jagged pier]

i havent run it yet

[heavy temple]

hmm

[jagged pier]

it gens rage

[heavy temple]

we 3chested a 14 smbg

and gonna try a 17 and 16 cos

im scared about dmg intake

[silver ember]

Those enraged mobs in smbg hurt alot

[jagged pier]

they do?

[silver ember]

They recked us atleast

[jovial wedge]

hey, quick question, which of the two crafted shields is better? the one with the effect or the one you can put 2 stats?

[tropic sundial]

effect on Earth is me

better to custom stat Molten Defender and put spikes on it if you want an embelish

or keep your embellish for other slots

[jovial wedge]

yep, that is what I was going for, but wanted to make sure

thanks!

[tropic sundial]

Does anyone know how high weekly boxes from activities scale? Feel bad having to wait for the end of the week to do everything.

ended up doing Siege earlier, box gave me a 372 chest while i'm 382

[uncut notch]

Is there a trick to academy tree boss

I get stacks INSANELY fast

[buoyant narwhal]

Just farm the super rares in Obsidian and Azure, they only give 385 max though

[uncut notch]

Just tried it on a 14 and whole group just got vio'd

[jovial wedge]

you can clean the stacks by stepping inside the green area that spawns where the big add dies

[buoyant narwhal]

You let the tree branch mob clear ur stacks after killing it and standing in the circle?

[native wyvern]

thoughts on this?

[uncut notch]

Giga, cheers boys

I saw the circle but didnt think thats what it did

thank you

[tropic sundial]

N one handed spec? oof

[tropic sundial]

Don't feel like Sonic Boom is worth it especially without Rumblind Earth

[jagged pier]

please do not ever run that

[native wyvern]

i have been considering to replace thunderous words with rumbling earth, not sure yet tho

[pallid quiver]

that makes it only more cursed

[tropic sundial]

I wish i could just drop Storm Bolt for Rumbling but that doesnt work lol

[native wyvern]

i mean it would be worth it tho, like its cleave stun

i havent found any use with storm bolt yet as prot

[jolly wasp]

How do you not find any use with storm bolt O: It's so useful in m+

[tropic sundial]

yeah, i'd rather have an AOE stun that gets CDR to 25sec than a ST stun on a 30sec CD haha

[pallid quiver]

those statements make no sense

If you can find a use for Shockwave,

you can find a use for Storm Bolt

[native wyvern]

shockwave does the job better tbf

[pallid quiver]

It's literally the exact same thing except longer duration and only one target

shockwave is worse on lower targets

It'll DR the stun duration for a piddly amount of time in comparison to other stuns

[native wyvern]

id also say shockwave is good for instant aggro

[jagged pier]

thats not how u use shockwave

[native wyvern]

if you use rumbling earth and have more than 3 targets then yeah its good to use it like that

[lyric geode]

uh....

no

[craggy pilot]

using shockwave for dam is always bad

[lyric geode]

thunder clap and thunderous roar makes the mobs not go away in 1000 milion years.

[lyric geode]

You would hold more aggro with thunderous roar and thunder clap than a father holds its hope for an abortion.

[loud patrol]

bro no one talking bout outburst?!?!?!

[cedar raft]

What did I just read and what in the fuck are those talent picks holy.

[lyric geode]

You dont thunder clap on outburst. Always a bad move. Less rage generation.

[loud patrol]

no no i mean he doesnt have outburst AT ALL

[lusty tiger]

You can use outburst on TC

[lyric geode]

lol...

[lyric geode]

Now HR works with outburst. So instead of SL that it gave you 5 rage, on 35 rage. You would get 40 rage.

miniscule difference but noticable nonetheless.

[lusty tiger]

With avatar+UF I think you can do it on 4+ mobs

[native wyvern]

sure is it good, but having battering ram instead also is good

[lusty tiger]

Nice take

[lyric geode]

Someone on the protection warrior HQ please make it clear.

[lusty tiger]

No

This guy is zzz

No outburst no help

[loud patrol]

man u take no outburst and no rallying? ur a troll 100%

[native wyvern]

and i asked for help where?

[lyric geode]

Also, I am not sure about this. Also needs clearance.

[cedar raft]

[loud patrol]

here

[lusty tiger]

This is a help discord for protection warriors

[native wyvern]

i said thoughts, not help

[loud patrol]

u want our thoughts?

its dogshit

[lusty tiger]

Ur retarded

[mellow quartz]

It’s a place for discussion not help per say.

[native wyvern]

right, you go play your meta builds then

[loud patrol]

lets not go into the depths of that

[native wyvern]

and ill have fun with my own builds

[lyric geode]

Well, when you see a person having a seizure, you dont want to express your thoughts about it. You just help.

[lusty tiger]

True let’s get trolled by this guy more

[loud patrol]

then he cries on why he doesnt have rage or why he doesnt deal enough dmg

[floral river]

morning skyhold goes hard

[native wyvern]

i actually out dps many ppl

[cedar raft]

No, he blames the healer for why he is dead, and dps for not kicking or stunning anything. lmao

[loud patrol]

havent even finished my toast and this guy comes with their shit takes thinking its albert enisten when in reality its elon musk

[lusty tiger]

Elon tusk

[floral river]

still generous

[loud patrol]

and gets surprised when we tell them that hes not taking prob the most important talent on the tree and that we know sonic boom is bad since BETA

[native wyvern]

seems like im the only one seeing the bigger picture, and open minded

[loud patrol]

theres open minded and theres brain damage

u far pass that point

at this point i think it is

[tropic sundial]

[native wyvern]

battering ram with one handed handed specialization + leeching strikes = nice passive heal

[lusty tiger]

Nice

[native wyvern]

fuel by violance + bloodborne = even more passive healing

[lusty tiger]

I’m really worried about healing on my prot warrior

[drifting juniper]

guys

[loud patrol]

lets just roll dks

[drifting juniper]

when i hold right click and press d my character doesnt move

anyone with same bug?

any solutions?

[loud patrol]

in a dungeon?

[lusty tiger]

Check keybind

[mellow quartz]

When something has been discussed 100 times you tend to not be ‘open minded’ abt it when someone asks for input on the same thing. If you had come with all kind of arguments for why it’s better the responses might be better 🤷‍♂️

[tropic sundial]

I mean battering ram is on the Icy Veins raid build as well as the raid build in the pins here

[drifting juniper]

i did everything but my character just stay in once place and rotates

[loud patrol]

check keybinds or restart

if inside instance get out of the instance

[lusty tiger]

Bind a,d to strafe

[drifting juniper]

didnt work

[native wyvern]

storm of steel is also quite good for some extra rage if need be

[jagged pier]

no

[loud patrol]

jakey its a troll

[lusty tiger]

Character unstuck through the battle net site

[native wyvern]

why would i be trolling?

[drifting juniper]

yeah i am gonna do that

[loud patrol]

talking about 1h spec and not even taking it in the tree u sent

[native wyvern]

alright you are a waste of time to talk to

[lusty tiger]

I read this in Eric cayman cartman voice

Why would I be trolling kyleee

[native wyvern]

you do you, but im not trolling

im just open minded for other builds

that isnt meta

[lusty tiger]

Nice

Have fun

[loud patrol]

plz be trolling or im thinking you have brain damage

[junior hemlock]

girls, you're both pretty

[native wyvern]

ty and i am having fun

[loud patrol]

[lyric geode]

What is your average dps per dungeon?

[mellow quartz]

You can play whatever you want. When you come and ask for input here don’t be surprised if people don’t agree.

[native wyvern]

depends on the dungeon, maybe like 25k to 30k

[lusty tiger]

Send logs with good results and no flame

[loud patrol]

reminds me of the guy that used challenging shout to tag mobs as arms

[lyric geode]

Low average.

[loud patrol]

not even 40k

[mellow quartz]

You don’t know if he is 340 ilvl or 400 or what dungeon lol

[floral river]

depends on key level

[lusty tiger]

Logs

Dam by mouth means nothing

[junior brook]

Is this still one of our bis trinkets and worth to upgrade with valor?

[loud patrol]

i think its bugged?

[lyric geode]

40k is an acceptable dmg.

[still flame]

Hi, any explanatio nfor why my IP+SS macro isnt working?

[loud patrol]

i hate that one of the bis rings come from notgud offensive

[bold quartz]

hey guys someone have a good pawn string to share ? 🙂

[floral river]

sim yourself

and use that one

[lusty tiger]

Simulationcraft

[loud patrol]

dont use pawn, sim yourself

[bold quartz]

thanks

[round current]

What stats do I put on crafted items if I wanna play fury and prot?

[loud patrol]

haste crit?

[lyric geode]

Hmm

[surreal estuary]

So I'm rerolling to prot as I can not deal with Brew atm, I'm not the most experienced player so I just can not survive on BrM, just curios on what the best way to gear is? do all campaign? dungeon crawl?

[floral river]

dungeon grind

[lyric geode]

Mastery isnt useful in protection. While mastery in fury is quite good. I dont think these specs are compatible.

[loud patrol]

dungeons my pal

[floral river]

maybe do storm for starter gear

[lyric geode]

Being BRM should be an honor to be fair.

I quite respect people who dont reroll and stay loyal to the class/spec.

[floral river]

brm looks like torture but yeah

[still flame]

Which trinkets to go with as prot war in low-mid m+? Ruby whelp, Burgeoning seed or Granyths scale?

[proven canopy]

do you pay special attention, or alter your rotation to avoid wasting Violent Outburst on TC? Or just hope for the best

[chrome falcon]

I feel like anyone can tell that if the choice is between “hoping for the best” and “paying attention”

It’s a pretty obvious call

Kinda answered your own question there imo

[surreal estuary]

sadly I don't have the experience/skill to do well on something that isn't meta

[surreal estuary]

thank you!

[lyric geode]

I mean, I have done +20s on SL with protection warrior. So, I think with enough dedication, everyone is eligible for this

[chrome falcon]

And you never will if you don’t stick to your guns and learn to play your class even if it’s hard

It’s your sub so do what you want

But people aren’t born good at wow

Keep practicing and you can do this content on anything

[mellow quartz]

Being good at dungeons is abt running a lot of dungeons.

[glacial skiff]

Why is Barbaric training/Honed Reflexes not suggested for M+? I've noticed most people running bounding stride/intimidating shout but haven't really found a need for either.

[jagged pier]

what does it look like?

[jagged pier]

because u run dry and rage

and then u cant do anything

[deft mortar]

good morning

[north comet]

guys im trying to use this https://wago.io/tDT26wrXg Spell reflection aura, BUT it never pop up. can u guys tell me that its working for you ?

[deft mortar]

any new nerfs while I slept?

[craggy pilot]

yes, prot is now

play BRM

[glacial skiff]

I feel like i'm spamming SB/IP so much that it doesn't matter either way. in fact im starting to feel carpel tunnely lmao

[north comet]

but some extra damage would be coool 😉

[craggy pilot]

im playing Barbaric Training until i get Tier 🤷‍♂️

biggest issue of not pressing Revenge often is when you have Tier

[glacial skiff]

Yeah, i do not have tier atm

imagine getting tier 1st as a fury warrior main lmao

[craggy pilot]

i just swapped Pain and Gain to Barbaric Training currently, will swap back when i get Tier

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUkRRARpFRRBBNVUVEVFRFVYVUQDQBA

[glacial skiff]

thats a poor choice

[jagged pier]

well thats already a miss play youver admitted to and barbric isnt going to help

[glacial skiff]

pain and gain is a staple imo

Woulnd't barbaric allow me to rage dump more efficiently tho?

25% more damage for 10 more rage sounds like a good trade

[proven canopy]

dump to IP?

[glacial skiff]

though it is 50% more rage, still worthwhile

atleast it seems that way, until you get tier

yeah, i dump to IP too, but IP does have a cap

[jagged pier]

no because then u wont have rage to IP or revenge

so u cant get rid of rage efficiently

[edgy grail]

IP cap shouldn’t be a big deal

[jagged pier]

we dont care about ip cap

its used to dumb rage

[edgy grail]

If your IP is capped often your keys are low enough that lost things don’t matter anyway

[glacial skiff]

I guess i'll try it out in a few dungeons and see how it feels. I mostly feel dungeons in the 13+ range hurt, but thats a mix of pugs and nokud sucking cock

[edgy grail]

Most pugs don’t know what to kick

[uneven mason]

50% cost increase for 25% damage

[glacial skiff]

true, nokuhd some things aren't highlighted (atleast with plater) on what should be kicked or not

[edgy grail]

On YOUR profile

[glacial skiff]

like the trash near elemental boss sucks

[edgy grail]

On mine they are

[glacial skiff]

Is there an important kick profile? I should probably update mine but dont want my settings completely overriden

[uneven mason]

So barbaric leads to less revenges which is less ss resets which is lower rage income

[glacial skiff]

i assumed the default would've had important kicks highlighted

[uneven mason]

Barbaric training is a shit talent

[glacial skiff]

fair, i'll try bounding instead

What about honed reflexes? I feel like 14s interrupt>faux CC

or an aoe interrupt in some circumstances

[cedar raft]

I take honed reflexes, but I do that because I take heavy repercussions

[glacial skiff]

That shouldn't be an argument as to why you'd take honed

resets happen enough, it's not for the SS cd reduc imo

[jagged pier]

u only take honed reflexes in ST raid build

as its a marginal very very marginal increase

[glacial skiff]

I'm trying to understand the gain of intimidatying shout vs honed

or vice versa

[jagged pier]

shout is another stop

which is insane in m+

but does nothing in raid

[glacial skiff]

Yeah, but realistically wouldn't a shorter cd on interrupt be better if your group interrupts as needed?

and/or aoe stuns

[jagged pier]

no because there are many casts which cant be inturpted

[spring holly]

@glacial skiff be honest, how much is 15->14 going to reallllly matter?

[jagged pier]

and u can always stun

and also that

its 1 second

[glacial skiff]

Not much, but there are some niche cases where that extra second can allow you to cover for a missed interrupt etc

[spring holly]

anyone take titanic throw? Just a nice QoL talent and seems like a lot take bounding stride anyways as the last point in that tier

[loud patrol]

they are summoning nome

[glacial skiff]

I'm basically trying to be convinced that intimidating shout is better, and why

[glacial skiff]

This basically did it for me, remembering fear can break some non interruptable casts

[cedar raft]

Well no honed lets me get 2 shield slams in the bolster 18 second shield block window. and I get value from pummel becoming 14 seconds

I also think IS is trash if you don'

take menace

[strong forum]

?

[glacial skiff]

WHAT

[jagged pier]

i understood some of the words there

[glacial skiff]

please tell me you are joking

[cedar raft]

Dead serious. lmao

[loud patrol]

no, im not discussing anymore

[glacial skiff]

uhhh ok dont take bolster

its absolutely unecessary

[blazing condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/980120689828847626.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[cedar raft]

In 19s it has been saving me. the hell do you mean

[proven canopy]

hmm, are the feared mobs running and pulling adds not a concern?

[icy citrus]

how to buy 405 craft?

[loud patrol]

do you use last stand a lot or u runnig out of shield block?

[glacial skiff]

you're doing 19's with both bolster and menace? i'd like to see your build

[jagged pier]

u find a crafter and make an order

[strong forum]

saying that with honed reflexes gets you 2 shield slams into the bolster window is uh what struck me

cuz like

you can get like 7 SS in 15 seconds

cuz resets

[loud patrol]

like the shield charge build never lets you run out of block

[glacial skiff]

No, your group is likely doing enough aoe damage to immediately break them out of fear. it's used as a faux interrupt/stun

[proven canopy]

great, thanks

[glacial skiff]

I think you could keep enough block without shield charge even running HR/ED

[loud patrol]

yeah u can

[glacial skiff]

thats why i'm really confused because why would you run bolster in 19's?

[strong forum]

if you run 3 out of the 4 block talents

you will have 100% uptime

[glacial skiff]

unless a 2 minute last stand is somehow life saving

[uneven mason]

If you need bolster for sb there is something else wrong, however I can see the more regular HP boost for soaking to be good in a lot of situations

[uneven mason]

At 19 fort there are some heavy hits

So I can certainly see the pad coming into play

[strong forum]

i dont fault anybody for going turtle this week

its the hardest tank week afterall

like, it doesnt get harder than current week pretty much

[glacial skiff]

but is bolster the play?

[loud patrol]

im scared of going out of my shell

[strong forum]

if you play ITF, you should play bolster

100%

if you play HR, bolster is a bit overkill

[glacial skiff]

I guess i'd rather take battle scarred, seems like an easy no brainer cd

[uneven mason]

Remember last stand is a heal and is multiplicative with bitter and iv

[uneven mason]

Bsv is bugged

[strong forum]

its not anymore

[uneven mason]

O

[glacial skiff]

Wouldn't BSV be better in general then? I understand how good last stand is, but i guess i just don't feel the value is as strong

[uneven mason]

Why not both, at 19s it going to be used

[loud patrol]

they fixed bsv and not BV

[tropic sundial]

BV fix when

[glacial skiff]

BV?

[loud patrol]

brutal vitality

[uneven mason]

Tbh bv is a bit "eh" yes it's annoying but that choice node could not exist and I doubt we'd notice in the long run

[glacial skiff]

what's wrong with it?

[uneven mason]

It stops working when IP caps

Until IP drops and is reapplied

[tropic sundial]

and then you need to let IP drop and start a new one for it to work again

[uneven mason]

Literally the only place you're going to notice bv being bugged is logs

[high drum]

frosted vs fierce armor kits?

[loud patrol]

tell that to my IP bar

[woven scroll]

Good Morning. When reviewing logs on Normal raid bosses with ilvl 382-384, I'm seeing prot warriors with 150k shield slams. I'm at 382, and my max shield slam last night was only 43k. I feel like I'm missing something significant

[strong forum]

outburst

[loud patrol]

outburst

[uneven mason]

You're not timing outbursts

[jagged pier]

not critting outbursts ither

[loud patrol]

full crit gems

[uneven mason]

Also if you're looking at logs for Nom or Sense just move on because they have a secret deal with the elderones from beyond sanity to do 20% more damage

[jagged pier]

forgotten again

also nome doesnt raid

[glacial skiff]

so i'm seeing a lot of different builds leaderboard for Rio, but i'm not sure which is better for full turtle build

[uneven mason]

Aww Jakey you're all natural

[jagged pier]

dont look at top io build

[glacial skiff]

one drops shield charge for BSV/bloodborne/bolster?

[jagged pier]

most of them are wack

[uneven mason]

Don't R.io chase

[jagged pier]

divines is okay and nerfs is okay

[uneven mason]

Use brain, ask questions

[woven scroll]

Looking thru the logs to see what the outburst was getting used on

[loud patrol]

go to last page and find the first warrior

[glacial skiff]

I'm not, but i want to not feel like i can actually tank 15's. like we did nokuhd last night and spent 1.5 hours to finish, raging tempest was the only boss that clapped my cheeks

[jagged pier]

thats the dungeon

[glacial skiff]

part of it was dispelling him didn't happen instantaneously but he still hurt like bad

[safe shale]

It's me, I'm on the last page..

[loud patrol]

man i see those pros already doing 19-20s and i feel bad

[loud patrol]

not for long

[jagged pier]

doing high keys is more about group play

than tank

[glacial skiff]

I guess i just want to know if there's stuff i can change to make myself more tanky. Like maybe drop tough as nails for bolster? idk what i'd drop for BSV

[jagged pier]

bolster isnt going to make u tankier tho

if your running HR ed and bulwark

[lyric geode]

It is more for ITF keeping the SB uptime.

@jagged pier I am wrong?

[strong forum]

i would do this

[jagged pier]

i have no idea what u mean

[glacial skiff]

I think HR is better for that that itf

[uneven mason]

We're at 100% block already, the only thing bolster would allow for would be regular plan able situations where u can predict a massive burst that will be past you health pool

[jagged pier]

i dont even press LS anymore

[strong forum]

i press it regularily

[glacial skiff]

really? Thuderlord is the least impactful of the talents to swap to BSV?

[lyric geode]

It is basically free HPS

[jagged pier]

u play a differnt game

[strong forum]

:)

[lyric geode]

9*3=27 minutes. So you kinda press it.

[strong forum]

ya was a 31min key

[lyric geode]

But yeah, it is miniscule.

[thorny stone]

Me, happy being top 50 on dathea yesterday, did 27k dps

Meanwhile Jakey with 33k and sense with fucking 40

[lyric geode]

What the fuck is dragonrider compation?

[strong forum]

its not miniscule cuz for the 15sec of it being up you are 30% tankier

[lyric geode]

True.

More Hp, more HPS etc.

[strong forum]

indom and IV heal more

[tropic sundial]

Dragonriding talent, gives you a small shield when you land or whatever

[lyric geode]

I know

[glacial skiff]

Is shield wall by comparison weaker then?

[lyric geode]

Lol...

[strong forum]

depends

[glacial skiff]

I feel like shield wall is kinda shit compared to how shield wall felt in SL/BFA/legion

[icy bane]

So I got 395 neck with shit secondaries and 372 helm, should I go for the crafted helm with spark?

[lyric geode]

Can I ask something, I feel like 10s and plus. Defensive stance is necessairy.

I know that I have a shitty shield 372.

[ivory elbow]

is BV still bugged?

[strong forum]

i barely use def stance, and i play without a healer

[loud patrol]

yep

[lyric geode]

But, Battle stance increase my dmg so good.

[jagged pier]

dont compare yourself to sense mans never been washed, i am washed and anyone can do what i do so keep working at it and you'll get there 👍

[ivory elbow]

[glacial skiff]

It's not. You can swap between stances when needed

[uneven mason]

Sounds like a good use of a spark

[lyric geode]

I mean yeah. But still. Having a large grp pulled and use battle stance.

[lyric geode]

Too broke to afford.

[loud patrol]

if you feel it necessary change ur healer

[lyric geode]

Cant change my healer since he is my cousin.

So...

[uneven mason]

Spark is Free

[lyric geode]

Commission is not.

[loud patrol]

disown him

[icy bane]

How often were y’all swapping on Dathea? Felt I could get pretty cheeky with heroic leap

[uneven mason]

Other materials shouldn't be super expensive

[lyric geode]

A good way to start a family fead.

[loud patrol]

depends on what ur crafting

[jagged pier]

it depends on difficulties

[uneven mason]

Bruh if I saw a shield commission poo up for 10g I'd craft the damn thing

[jagged pier]

but on normal u can go as high as u want without dying

[lyric geode]

I mean.

I get so much angry.

I got to hc yesterday.

[uneven mason]

Like the shield pattern is legit free when you spec into shield craft

[lyric geode]

And first boss dropped 2 shields.

[loud patrol]

both to shaman?=

[lyric geode]

It was me , the co tank and a holy pala.

Co tank and Holy took the shield

UHHHHH

[jagged pier]

u want the one from brood anyway

its higher ilvl

[thorny stone]

On normal, never

[loud patrol]

this people runnig hc and i cant even get a group ;_;

[lyric geode]

I didnt dropped.

[jagged pier]

its weak one 🤷

[icy bane]

Oh so you can heroic leap every zephyr slam? @thorny stone

[lyric geode]

The damage is a joke on hc.

[jagged pier]

dont get too hung up

[thorny stone]

Spam charge

[jagged pier]

u can just charge

[icy bane]

Oh shit

[loud patrol]

havent even cleared normal ;_;

[tropic sundial]

good old charge countering knockbacks

[lyric geode]

Terros is basically holondrus v2

and the others are basically tank swap mechanic.

Eh...

[loud patrol]

i felt it like rocky krosus

[lyric geode]

Krosus? Nah. Holondrus would be much more suited description

[loud patrol]

tbh is the msot patchwerk fight since patchwerk

but im stuck in kurok anyway

[icy bane]

All my pugs couldn’t clear Razs

[loud patrol]

at least u got there

mine cant use a defensive

[icy bane]

Got 16% in one but wiped from stupid mechanics and they all raged

Yeah just need sennerath and razsa, can’t find a pug on spider yet

Every group oneshotting her or something

[glacial skiff]

How often do we get sparks of inspiration now? Considering having someone make a shield of the hearth for me

[edgy grail]

Every 2 weeks

[loud patrol]

if you need a tank for spider i can help

[icy bane]

Every two weeks right?

[edgy grail]

For 19 weeks

10*

[tropic sundial]

shield of the hearth sucks though

[edgy grail]

Then its random drops

[icy bane]

Damn I made shield of the hearth

[tropic sundial]

Meh embelishment taking an embelish slot and meh fixed substats

[lyric geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHTsaJRai24

[next elbow]

is there anything else i would go on azure vaults m+ other than titanic throw ?

[lyric geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIO4NJsTAPg

[uneven mason]

Bruh

Wtf the YouTube spam

[north comet]

where u use it on azure ?

[short elk]

How often should I be casting ignore pain? Comparing logs I’m using it way less than it seems I should be

[edgy grail]

If you sre going to rage cap you press it

If you need to to survive, press it instead of revenge

[next elbow]

i usually throw it to pull aggro when engaging but i noticed it pulling the dragons that spawn the big stone guys

[edgy grail]

Just walk along the side and pull the 4 mobs on the balcony

Don’t pull it back

Walk to the edge

[lethal charm]

what should I spent my sparks on? Got 2 on my alt Warr, prob. Necklace?

[next elbow]

but my titanic throw will still hit other mobs around the one far ?

[slim dove]

neck is juicy

i love it

[lethal charm]

so 1h weapon + neck? or

[edgy grail]

I got shield and nevk

Shield is the best defensive item

[slim dove]

i went neck and shield

but i got lucky in m+ so i have big wep

[raven fjord]

Do you go for primal or hearth sheild?

[slim dove]

primal

hearth is bad

[edgy grail]

Isnt hearth crit mast only?

[slim dove]

yup, and stuck with that embellish

[edgy grail]

🫠

[lethal charm]

thy guys, so just grabbin shield and neck myself then 😄 time to invest some $$$

[icy bane]

Anybody craft helm and liking it?

[autumn urchin]

every time you would cap rage by pressing something else

you should ignore pain

[lethal charm]

Fun fact on Alting -> I am 20 on every faction just by questin xD

[tropic sundial]

were you 20 on the main before or just 10+?

[lethal charm]

my main is maxed out

on all 😄

[tropic sundial]

ah yeah that helps haha

[lethal charm]

Yeah, its def. worth to wait with the alt

just finish one char

[slim dove]

do you remember what color grass is?

[lethal charm]

nope

prob. grey

[slim dove]

[storm merlin]

It's actually white

[tropic sundial]

yeah i havent even reached 20 on one, dodged all the stupid grind farm methods

[lethal charm]

curious if I should spent my Skill Points from Blacksmithing into Weapons to craft it myself, or going for tools. Seems like no smith ever gone for tools

sadly they nerfed tuskar rep. You had items from net fishing worth 250 rep

now they nerfed it to 25 rep

[icy bane]

Classic blizz

[lethal charm]

prob. cuz I posted on Reddit, that the Chests after renown are useless xD

[short elk]

Kk there were a couple people casting it over 200 times in a 20 min run - I’m around like 30 in the same run

[lethal charm]

leveling warrior is the funniest thing ever tho so far, I can't die. Its so amazing

[icy bane]

Yeah I leveled as arms at the start of expansion, felt shitty, swapped to prot was the easiest grind ever

[lethal charm]

even the craziest group quest (the shark south of tusk) 0 % Hp lost on my Moonkin it 3 hit me

[vital oak]

One thing to keep in mind. Without the master's hammer from wep/armor it's much harder to reach 100 skill.

[lethal charm]

the crafting tool? They are easy to get tho, you can just level every profession to 50 for pretty much unlimited mettle or how ever it is called

[umbral crest]

Best trinkets? I just got nokhud one, is it any good?

[vital oak]

If you're going to profession hop it's easier but still, leveling skill on a plan that takes mettle is rough.

[lethal charm]

just not sure if it is worth to invest the time, since pretty much everyone from day 1 can just craft it for you for a small Tip

[slim dove]

its decent

whelp shell + blazebinder is the move imo

[strong forum]

whelp shell is whack imo

best m+ trinkets are whetstone + blaze/trample

[umbral crest]

both from RLP yey

[lethal charm]

the shell that drops like 100 times? from all the rares? xD

[slim dove]

no

[lethal charm]

ah xD

[autumn urchin]

the turtle shell is good

usually 5%+ overall for me with fire procs

but downside is its not m+ so it wont scale

[minor helm]

Disrespecting datheas trinket

[strong forum]

turtle shell is alright

but i hope to replace it soon

[blazing idol]

Defensive trinkets ♀️

[autumn urchin]

but yea ruby shell is definitely 👎🏿

[strong forum]

whetstone owns

[lethal charm]

I prob. buy all the 389 itesm from rep vendors since its an alt and filling rest with some craft items

should be more then fine for some early M+

[slim dove]

like 90% of dps and tanks i see on IO are using whelp shell

for DH esp its absurd

[strong forum]

ya cuz they dont have anything better

[slim dove]

scales with mastery for their m+ build

[autumn urchin]

if you track all the procs it gives

[strong forum]

whelp shell is a 2/5 proc to get the thing you want

[autumn urchin]

its very underwhelming

[strong forum]

it has 2 dmg procs

2 heal/shield proc

1 mastery proc

on a 1ppm trinket

its SUPER rng

[slim dove]

i thought if you used the "use" effect it locked itself into a proc?

[strong forum]

hell no

[autumn urchin]

nope

[slim dove]

zzzz

[strong forum]

its just more likely to get the thing u used it on

but ykno... still rng

[slim dove]

i figured it locked itself in

super lame.

[strong forum]

nope, just rumours

same as the "use the on use for 7 days, then youll exclusively get the procs you want" also just a rumour

[restive turtle]

any way i can macro shield charge/regular charge?

shield charge being prio

[autumn urchin]

You could I think but definitely shouldnt

[restive turtle]

any reason i shouldnt do it?

[strong forum]

you dont want to send SC as your first thing

[autumn urchin]

sc is a big offensive cd and if you prio it over regular charge

it will be completely wasted

[strong forum]

treat SC as a normal dmg button, not as a charge

[autumn urchin]

meaning you wouldnt be able to use charge over sc for gap closing

[restive turtle]

i see

[undone patrol]

is there a spell reflect chart anywhere?

[lusty grotto]

hold on guys i got this one

[blazing condor]

[lusty grotto]

sorry dog, i still win

[blazing condor]

congratulations

[lusty grotto]

ty sir, it was a difficult victory but we prevailed

[blazing condor]

i feel like the real pins were the friendships we made along the way

[lusty grotto]

indeed they were

sprays champagne on face

[long stone]

Someone EU who can upgrade my elemental neck?!

[solemn current]

I’m actually struggling with trinkets to use speaking of the whelpling. My highest is a 392 so I feel inclined to use it as guides seem to think it’s good but it just feels like it isn’t. Was doing more with my 372 kickball trinket. Got those, a 389 decoration and a 382 blazing stat stick with leech able to be paired with the ritual shell.

[toxic geyser]

Honed Reflexes is in the raid build???

[vital dirge]

is there any reflect/deflect spell lists for DF m+ ?

[jagged pier]

yes its more SS resets over a fight

very very marginal tho

[slim dove]

yeah, check pins

[vital dirge]

ty

[lusty grotto]

imagine scrolling like 5 lines up lol

[lyric geode]

Guys.

Shield of Hearth or Primal molten defender?

[lusty grotto]

i think you mean

"what do i use my spark on"

[lyric geode]

yes

[lusty grotto]

"is there a spark BiS list?"

[lyric geode]

Yes

[uneven mason]

Whatever you can get?

[lusty grotto]

[slim dove]

primal.

[lusty grotto]

WOOSH

[slim dove]

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/the-joke-superman-flying-missing-the-joke-not-getting-the-joke-gif-16558902

[patent osprey]

[modern brook]

gz on the 20s

[patent osprey]

Ty 🙂 ez 2 chest 😎

[strong forum]

nerf brew

twitter told me that brew is unplayable in +15s how come they can do 20s week1

[modern brook]

sandbagging monks smh

[sleek current]

God healer carrying them. 😄

[lavish oracle]

Double prot in RWF, more prots timing 20s than any other tank; we need to sandbag harder or we're gonna get nerfed again :c

[mellow quartz]

I need to play more. All these 400 ilvl gamers running around lol.

[lavish oracle]

Wish I weren't so busy with the holidays

[stiff surge]

Does anyone uses interrupting shout from mass taunt talent sometimes in dungeon ? Like rlp or smbg ?

[lime rivet]

Is Spell Block basically required on that last trash pull in Jade Serpent?

Did a +14 that was kinda smooth but that last pack shredded me to bits

[edgy grail]

Yes

Not required bc you can kite

But def very good

TOJS you play spell block snd defenders aegis

[lime rivet]

gotcha. I definitely swapped to aegis for it, but dear lord I wish I had spell block too

[edgy grail]

Yea its very good when you need it

[mellow quartz]

The problem with kiting is the big guy spawns adds you then don’t have any aggro on.

[lime rivet]

Can you kite out of Haunting Gaze or is it just Dark Claw that can be avoided?

Also yeah, fuck those little adds.

[mellow quartz]

Your biggest issue is the dark claw, not the small adds.

[lime rivet]

True

What about haunting gaze though? Or is that not a huge issue

[slim dove]

dark claw can be kited and reflected.

if your cheeky you can time a reflect on all 3 in that pack

if it doesnt work you die and healer goes ???

[lime rivet]

lmao

[slim dove]

but its worth for the 3x 400k reflects

[mellow quartz]

Gaze also hurts but there are 3 of the others.

[edgy grail]

You go in and pop offensive CDs once they are out you can start to kite and once you get adds you can charge back in to get aggro on smallies and reflect

[lime rivet]

Maybe I’ll prioritize getting a frost mage to make the kiting easier next time I’m in a high key so I can focus on the dark claw reflecting and avoiding

I appreciate all the discussion and advice

[edgy grail]

Frost mage is great for kiting

[weary python]

Is there something that occasionally gives us a long shield block? I'm not talking about last stand+ shield block. It feels like occasionally I get a very long duration shield block out of nowhere.

[edgy grail]

Not bc of the slow but bc they do so little damage rhat you’ll be kiting 3x longer than needed

[mellow quartz]

Shield charge with bulwark gives you block

[lime rivet]

[weary python]

Yeah I don't think that's it either. Unless I'm popping a manual shield block occasionally combined with that

[slim dove]

bad frost mages then idk

[lusty grotto]

like alyrion said

[still flame]

Any top dogs here who can recommend a talent build (with variations) for m+ pushes and some important macros to be had ? (apart from battle/def stance + ip/ss - the latter isnt working for me tho 😦 )

[weary python]

Yes I'm aware of that talent as well. I don't think it's that tbh because I'm aware when I shield charge

[lusty grotto]

ok then be aware of how youre getting shield block

easy

[open bluff]

are you talented into bolster by chance?

[weary python]

Thx homegirl

No I'm not

[tacit prairie]

What do you swap out to get spell block and aegis?

I know tough as nails

but aegis?

[edgy grail]

Search shield block in your talents it will show every talent that affects it

[lusty grotto]

wall?

[edgy grail]

They are both choice nodes

[lusty grotto]

its pretty easy

just swap choices

[edgy grail]

^^

[tacit prairie]

aye I'm dumb as shit ^^

thanks ❤️

[edgy grail]

[lusty grotto]

[deft mortar]

yall lucky they buffed up pvp trinkets

my pve trinket procs hit 105k single target

fire damage

[modern brook]

yeah def feel pretty lucky for that personally

[lusty grotto]

lol

[deft mortar]

gone are my days of pve + pvp abuse

both crowds hate me xd

[gilded ore]

hey, would u guys prefer a 405 sword or a shield first?

[lusty grotto]

shield

[uneven mason]

Shield

[lusty tiger]

Shield

[cinder storm]

shield

[gilded ore]

thx guys!

[last pebble]

good lord i just bricked a court of stars. I've ran the dungeon like twice. confusing as hell for me

[slim dove]

shield

[mellow quartz]

I missed a COS 17 by 40s yesterday with 25 deaths lol. Was a complete shit show and almost timed it.

[slim dove]

lol good thing its not the original court

[slender blade]

you will pick it up, but if you want a great guide Trell has an amazing guide that really walks you through a lot of it

[slim dove]

with rng profession buffs

[mellow quartz]

There is still rng stuff.

[slim dove]

yeah well i timed a +9 ruby with 44 deaths cuz my pug healer did 5k hps overall 🤓

[last pebble]

yeah i skipped a mini boss lol

then had to go back adn get it

[slim dove]

its severely nerfed compared to legion though

[lusty grotto]

was gonna say, the healer thing is random

[last pebble]

flamed hard by the group

[slim dove]

when they flame i leave

fuck your key

[last pebble]

nah it was definitely my fault

[slim dove]

nope

even if i dickup

[last pebble]

people just arent very forgiving

and theyd rather flame me then point out my mistake

[slim dove]

flame = leave ill go hop in another key in 5 minutes if i want to

[mellow quartz]

I had a fury warrior die 14 times before 2nd boss in AV 🤷‍♂️

There are a lot of interesting people out there.

[slender blade]

Listen bricking keys cause someone says something to you is fine if you are really upset, but you can learn sometimes from the flaming, there is usually truth to the complaint you just have to pick out the actual advice

[lusty grotto]

👆

just move on, its only words

[last pebble]

yeah i dont give a shit that they flamed me lol

[slim dove]

yeah they can also move on with a depleted keystone

[slender blade]

chad

[lusty grotto]

ego is fake

[last pebble]

i just was like uh you gonna yell at me or tell me what i did wrong?

[onyx matrix]

They flame----> they refuse to give advice and keeps flaming-----> leave

[last pebble]

we aint timin at this point im just gonna tkae my sweet ass time and figure out what i did wrong

only missed timer by 1min too

[lusty grotto]

complete, collect loot, move on

swallow your pride

and forget about whatever the fuck they type

unless they do have a valid point between the lines

which does happen

[gilded ore]

shield of hearth is kinda waste cause of mastery right?

[oak ivy]

have we considered the possibility that varughh is absolutely perfect in every key and anyone flaming is objectively wrong and should have their key bricked

[slim dove]

yes

[slim dove]

never said i was perfect 🙂

[oak ivy]

was just a question

i think it's worth considering

[slim dove]

[sick sentinel]

off topic but
advisor melandrus fight on CoS does anyone have a problem seeing the floor abilities ?

[slim dove]

yeah they're pretty low visibility

[unkempt pollen]

Hello! Which wep enchant is best? Icy veins and wowhead say 2 different things

[cinder storm]

Any people here doing 13s-15s? What's a healthy dps group overall? 45k-60k? I've had people doing less than me on a 9 and some are dubious on 12s

[edgy grail]

It depends

[sick sentinel]

I have particles max and its worse visibility than the black orbs on spires of ascencion

[edgy grail]

I have a rogue that does 100k in academy

[sick sentinel]

Any of you folks tanked Dathea yet?

[oak ivy]

only on normal

[cinder storm]

Overall?

[unkempt pollen]

I was tanking her last night

[edgy grail]

Yes 100k overall

Well srry 98k

[cinder storm]

HolyF. I was proud of a friend doing 60k overall

Dh

[edgy grail]

Well its academy

[lusty grotto]

been like that since legion

[edgy grail]

Ao it depends on the dungeon

[cinder storm]

Yeah, it was also on academy

[edgy grail]

And def on the tank and how they pull

[lusty grotto]

apparently nobody in beta decided to look into it

[sick sentinel]

Did your group struggle with dathea? It seemed like timing was off because The guy with the adds was fine, but even it was a clean swap when the adds popped, by the time cyclone and adds went through, the boss tank was getting launched off the map

[edgy grail]

60k is pretty good Id say

Or at least not bad

[cinder storm]

Tattman pulls basically, so big

[sick sentinel]

we cleared it but we ended up 3 tanking it 😅

[unkempt pollen]

The timing last night was boss tank would get 3rd debuff then just get launched to the add platform when the add dies

[oak ivy]

that swap made me and my cotank sweat for a good bit

[edgy grail]

In other dungeons Id say yea 40-60k is decent

Depending on key level and all that

[oak ivy]

granted we're warrior/dk so lots of "no i don't think i will go flying thank you"

[sick sentinel]

I see! That would make sense, bc you'd be swapping boss in basically the middle of the add fight

[oak ivy]

yea at one point i got him knocked to narnia cuz he didnt have DA and got 5 stacks cuz i was tunneled on the add

[sick sentinel]

we are war/druid so we had a lot of, nah, i'm coming right back fam

3 stacks seemed ok, but at 4, charge wouldn't even fire off even if i was spamming it lol

[oak ivy]

gotta leap at that point

[sick sentinel]

I did leap a few times to recover from the explosion.

[oak ivy]

ur gaming dude

[bleak solar]

Do we have an updated dragonflight spell reflect list yet? Thought I found it the other day but maybe was confused.

[sick sentinel]

It almost seemed like, she is suppose to aerial buffet if you aren't in melee range, but it seemed like if the other rank was in range, she'd slam him instead of buffet'ing me

[frozen rose]

anyone have any tips about using spell block in mythic+ dungeons? Have a difficult time knowing whats blockable. resources i've been looking at don't seem up to date, spreadsheet wise

[bleak solar]

Found pins, nvm thanks!

[oak ivy]

take the other side of that pick

that's the tip

[frozen rose]

i see lol

[slim dove]

check pins

theres a list

temple and 1 other dung i forget the name of are good contenders for spell block

[potent fulcrum]

Anyone know what aiding the accord caps at for ilvl

[frozen rose]

@vale glacier for dark claw ability ya?

yep,. hurts so bad

[cinder storm]

I got my temple build ready, I was humbled last time I was there

[jagged pier]

aegis is getting nerfed

[frozen rose]

@vale glacier where in rlp is spell block real good?

[oak ivy]

wots defenders aegis

[frozen rose]

@vale glacier thz

[oak ivy]

oh pog i don't take it so no change

[jagged pier]

oh your talking talent meh if u want to take it

[wary heath]

has anyone noticed DBM is failing to alert you of any real dangerous mechanic? maybe I don't have something enabled

in both M+ and raid

broodkeepers stonetalon claw, dbm doesn't say anything about incoming, or swap

haunting gaze

in TJS

[slim dove]

dbm was doing that for me so i switched to bigwigs

[wary heath]

bigwigs just a competitor? i'm about to switch lol. like I went through all of VoIC , and it BARELY alerts you to anything

not even raszageth thunder bite that does like 350k Damage

[mortal brook]

Can you not /dbm choose the boss and highlight important things or remove things that dont matter

[drifting fable]

bigwigs is good ye i switched a while back

[cinder storm]

me like bigwigs

[drifting fable]

lot of stuff i prefer from bw

[wary heath]

I would expect most on by default, especially tank busters . but let me double check they didn't disable them by default

[modern brook]

sounds like your dbm isnt updated tbh

but also what steve said

[wary heath]

no it's updated haha

yeah i'll check

[modern brook]

if your concern is that dbm isnt loud enough

[drifting fable]

tbh my friends were saying the same thing a couple nights ago

[modern brook]

you probably wont like bw

[drifting fable]

dbm wasnt saying shit

[wary heath]

no....nothing about loud or volujme

DBM just saying nothing , almost entire encounters

not even text

almost like it's not on

[drifting fable]

well just try bigwigs and see what you think

[wary heath]

Bigwigs supports dungeons ?

[modern brook]

little wigs

[drifting fable]

ya that too

[modern brook]

also, for the dungeons at least, both of them wil llikely need the relevent expansion's module loaded

[wary heath]

okay great. yeah let me set that up and see if it's any better

[drifting fable]

ohh true dbm you always had to download like 7 addons

[vast star]

so you say littlewigs / bigwigs > dbm?

[modern brook]

its preference

big wigs uses less air horns so i prefer it

it used to be raid specific

[vast star]

kk

[modern brook]

but at this point i think they're fairly interchangable

[steep wraith]

Is there any preference on embellishments at the moment?

[lusty grotto]

dbm doesnt use air horns wtf

[modern brook]

there have been some fights where people having different ones fucked with certain mechanics markers

[lusty grotto]

bigwigs does

dbm is all voice and shit

[modern brook]

did u download Big wigs "dbm edition now with more air horns"

cause

uhhh

it doesnt use airhorns

[lusty grotto]

literally everyone ive seen using littlewigs its BLARE BLARE BLARE

dink dink dink

[modern brook]

thats GTFO lmao

[lusty grotto]

hmm idk about that

[modern brook]

i use exactly 3 addons

and i have 0 air horns

with 0 editing

[lusty grotto]

i have 0 airhorns and use dbm

its just a person telling you shit

[modern brook]

:nodders:

they've probably changed it in the last 8 years i'll admit that

they probably had to cause it was dogshit garbage

my bias aside, i really wouldnt want a voice command either

people are talking and thats just pollution

[lusty grotto]

eh i prefer it

but i also dont blast sound effects to max volume

[jagged pier]

I mean u can change the sounds in the addon

[lusty grotto]

yeah that should be true for both

[jagged pier]

But i just stream my game sound to the recordig i never actually hear it

Who plays with game sound

[lusty grotto]

i miss the AYAYA from gingi's corruption thing

ngl

[modern brook]

that guy

[lusty grotto]

been wondering what WA to put it on

[long stone]

Can everyone who has the neck Plan Upgrade mine ? Or does they need to skill smth ?

[lusty grotto]

as a person that doesnt watch anime, its fucking hilarious

lmao bull with the Bing search

[modern brook]

bing is the ideal sound to tell me of an inc mechanic

thats why i use BW 🙂

[lusty grotto]

[upbeat pine]

What missives did you take for Lariat - crit/haste or vers/haste?

[lusty tiger]

i will say dbm isnt really telling me anything on these dungeon bosses

[modern brook]

make sure you have the dungeon + relevent expansion modules loaded as well

[lusty tiger]

is big/little wigs the play these days?

[lusty tiger]

yeah ill need to 2x check

[modern brook]

i really dont think BW vs DBM is a huge difference maker

use what your guild uses

if dbm is broken / not reporting things, it'll get resolved in an update

[lusty grotto]

you need all of those

for this season at least

[lusty tiger]

oh sheeet

tru

[lusty grotto]

same goes for littlewigs

[analog radish]

What should I make with my Primal Infusion? My gear is mostly 380 ish.

Lariat?

Bracers?

[lusty tiger]

shield

[fading tide]

Anything special I need to do as tank with the thundering plus 10 proc?

[lusty grotto]

no

[slim dove]

^

[lusty grotto]

just clear it or high risk high reward it

[slim dove]

i let my team deal with

runnign around with a pack of mobs just makes shit worse

[lusty grotto]

if youre just starting i would suggest to clear it asap

[fading tide]

How u clear it?

[lusty grotto]

clear it as in run to the opposite

[deft hazel]

idk why i get so tilted at other tanks xd

[lusty grotto]

positive + negative or vice versa cancels it

1 person in the group stays with 1

because 5

either way that person doesnt get fucked, and can just cruise it

[fading tide]

How do I know who has my opposite

[lusty tiger]

eyes