protection

[slim dove]

lul i need to start logging this

just to show my dps how fucking frantic these keys are getting

[tender cove]

ohh, my bad lol. my brain melting right now, b

[weary python]

How do you use ruby whelp shell effectively?

[cedar trench]

yes

[compact jackal]

Someone talk me out of spending 500k on the wristguard recipe

[warm plinth]

I have 39 60+ characters and I don't even have 500k total. Don't do it.

[compact jackal]

It's on illidan etc for like 200k

but man, my server has someone wanting 800k, 500k, and 1.3m

[ivory light]

no way to get a metric ton of primals real fast otehr than keys right? decided ima switch to prot, and wanted to make the spark sword/shield but dont have enough primals lol

[dense temple]

do keys brain off no sleep

[ivory light]

ya thats the plan lol

[main sable]

Best embellishment for a one hander? Fang or potion?

[compact jackal]

except Shadowmoon for one pull

that pull hurts

[weary python]

https://tenor.com/view/nodders-gif-26414892

[slim dove]

[past lark]

🤝 @slim dove

[dapper nest]

So like

What is the counterplay to the last pack of Temple?

I die through shield wall

[torn jay]

Run

[main sable]

I think I fucked up. I blew my first 1k valor on BIS shield upgrade from M+.
Yet best embellishment aside from lariat looks to be armor spikes. But I'm a weaponsmith and was oging to use one of my sparks on a longsword

[mighty valley]

i'm holding onto valor til i'm getting higher level pieces

[deft hazel]

i did not have fun in azure vaults

[urban portal]

i wouldnt say fked up

if the tankiness lets you do higher keys

then you can get better gear

[deft hazel]

well i wouldnt say for me.. it wasnt fun because group was dead while i was full hp xd

[urban portal]

especailly early in the tier where people cant carry you

[main sable]

True

[urban portal]

you need every bit of power you can get in m+ right now

[main sable]

Well I'm set on making my own sword. Potion or fang is what I'm trying to decide

[urban portal]

doing 10s are fine

[sick sentinel]

tell your team to stay far out of combat, solo engage the blazing imp, reflect when they start casting fireball

cos

[ivory brook]

What kind of dps should we be pulling in m+ across a dungeon? 30k? 35k?

[deft hazel]

[mighty valley]

varies a lot depending on dungeon and ilvl is also varying a lot right now

simply do your best

[lucid dew]

i carfted both engi goggles and bracers not sure how i feel about flame thrower

[deft hazel]

i feel like right now, i can tank a 10+, but the dps just dont live long lol

[ivory brook]

So much this.

[mighty valley]

people don't know how to play the dungeons yet

[lucid dew]

Is anyone else using two tinkers?

[onyx marsh]

hey prot champions, new to the way of the prot, doing about 20-25% total dmg from m+ 7-10s atm should I be closer to the 30% mark?

[slender wedge]

which phial should we use?

[mental scarab]

@deft hazel Yea the dps are squishy as fuuuuk 😅 only run a 2 vault and 6 ruby, But damn dps dies like kids

[glass drift]

https://tenor.com/view/whoa-butters-stotch-south-park-fatbeard-s13e7-gif-22897451

[tender quartz]

I see tons of us are running the Primal Ritual Shell Trinket on Subcreation but

What buff are we going for there. Mastery or the shielding one?

Damage One didn't seem to proc a lot imo

[rare flare]

Whats everyone doing damage/healing wise?

[slender quest]

Okay looks like healer ignore tanks now to heal -.-

[tender quartz]

i mean tanks don't really need heals except brew

[toxic pewter]

I stick with mastery one personally but I will say the shielding one does absorb a good amount of damage as far as I can tell

[tender quartz]

I got 5 of them on 380+ running 12's

[loud patrol]

u know what im using my spark to craft a helm im not spending 500k for a lariat

[sour marsh]

What gems should i use in my Lariat?

[lucid dew]

ya im waiting for the next spark for lariat

[surreal ember]

@limpid pawn craft master's hammers

[loud patrol]

im watching a warrior doing a 18 ruby and im scared im not good enough

[surreal ember]

Ruby hurts. Whole team just melting around me.

[storm estuary]

Ruby is definitely more harshly tuned than any of the other dungeons.

[radiant path]

Anyone know when you get diminishing returns on Haste?

[full venture]

Pretty sure its 30%

[radiant path]

Thanks!

[full venture]

Don’t quote me

In SL I remember vers being 30% dr

For pvp

But I could be wrong

[radiant path]

"Diminishing Returns for haste is definitely 30%"

• @full venture

[full venture]

Sounds right though

[loud patrol]

someone pin it

[full venture]

[ionic fern]

Fire.

[loud patrol]

i got decoration of flame

[ionic fern]

@warm plinth good morning, ily.

[novel temple]

dps drop like flies though new mechanics in temple fucked me up. way easier doing challenge mode as prot back in mop

[novel temple]

i got a normal one tuesday! but anything besides the first boss and groups suck

cause like im out dpsing people in raids

and it makes me sad

also, they should've opened up lfr

[ionic fern]

The damage profile of the dungeons is different than what most people are used to.
Instead of heavy tank damage it's more AoE/RNG heavy right now. This puts more pressure on the healer and DPS'ers, hence why it feels like DPS'ers are dying.

[loud patrol]

Nice.

[novel temple]

yeah, dps were blaming on big pulls

but no one was interuptting tidal burst in the temple i did

besides me on a singular one

i also did like 5 more interupts tahn an enhance shaman

and then like 13 more than a ret pally

and like 12 more than a mage

[warm plinth]

😮 HI ILY

[ionic fern]

Don't put pressure on the DPS'ers.
They are trying their best to out DPS the tanks, no time to interrupt.

[loud patrol]

lmao

[pallid quiver]

they're too busy yelling at the tank to interrupt to interrupt

can confirm that this happened to me earlier

like, listen, i can only stop so many casts with pummel, storm bolt, int shout, shockwave, shield charge...

i like, need some amount of support

[ionic fern]

And then people go.."Ugh..why do you have Honed Reflexes in your m+ talents??"
This..this is why..cause i've pugged too many times and that 1s off interrupt is big.

[pallid quiver]

the 1s would not have helped me, personally

[ionic fern]

It helped me

Enough

[pallid quiver]

yeah i don't blame you for that

[ionic fern]

Using Pummel on CD.

God damn DPS'ers.

[pallid quiver]

but it my specific scenario, it would not have helped

[mighty valley]

my gang actually focuses on interrupts and surviving over perfect dps in these early keys, it's incredible

[pallid quiver]

most of the people i know don't even know base mechanics

but they do know how to press their defensives, so that's a plus

better than about 70% of the DPS playerbase currently

[solar blade]

its funny because now we nozice that dps have their kicks and cc on alt gr numpad 5

hence why its so difficult to kick

[pallid quiver]

Mine's on Shift-1, hence why Matta gets mad at me

[ionic fern]

Even i don't know base mechanics. 😂
My m+ dungeons yesterday were:
"Ugh..i'll just pull this and see what happens".

Oo, hey, mine is also shift+1

That being said..Ruby Life pools was horrendous.

Compared to other keys.

[pallid quiver]

We can both get yelled at by Matta, then! 🙂

[ionic fern]

Who?

[pallid quiver]

Mattacate, man who made the banner tutorial vid during S4 SL

[ionic fern]

I was AFK most of SL.

[pallid quiver]

100% understandable

[ionic fern]

But, back to Ruby..holy crap.

[pallid quiver]

Oh yeah, Ruby blasts

[ionic fern]

The dragons..the interrupts..the casters.

[warm plinth]

I have heard that Ruby is quite spicy

[ionic fern]

What the hell.

[pallid quiver]

It's like, pretty fine until the area before second boss

[warm plinth]

Is Ruby the one that has the boss that spawns the fire elementals

[ionic fern]

We tried it in a +10..had 41 deaths..still timed tho.

[pallid quiver]

Yeah

[full venture]

Both dungeons where I was asked to pull more mobs (+9) dps would die instantly

Shit is annoying

[ionic fern]

Jeah, from there on it's horrible.

[pallid quiver]

You need to control the flame dancers or DPS just blow up

[warm plinth]

That's my job

[pallid quiver]

and if you have enough small elemental friends, you also actually feel it

[warm plinth]

Outlaw rogue life

[pallid quiver]

like, i thought those tiny elementals would be like, fluff enemies

but that stacking dot they have kinda hurts

[ionic fern]

They stack a dot?

Smh.

I'll check logs after work.

[warm plinth]

Mwahi be like that mob has mechanics?! Blasphemy!

[ionic fern]

This.

It diddn't help that our healer in ruby discovered that he was running red gear for like half the dungeon but his UI bugged and diddn't show gear as broken.

[pallid quiver]

Yeah, the small elementals you see wandering around chuck like an ignite thing at you

[ionic fern]

Was wondering why he died to every damage.

😂

[ionic fern]

I pulled all of them every time.

[oblique garnet]

The small ones arent particularly dangerous

The destroyer combined with Cinderweavers tho

[pallid quiver]

they're honestly not, they just hurt more than i expecte-

oh yeah that suuuuuuuucks

and it's the worst if someone decides to say hi to a dragon

[ionic fern]

HOW DO I NOT PULL DRAGONS?

WE HAD 2 yesterday

[warm plinth]

Can't keep up. Am I friends with the dragons or enemies with the dragons smh

[woeful cypress]

are you guys crafting weapon and neck?

[ionic fern]

Exactly.

[pallid quiver]

We're friends with the civilized dragons, enemies with the barbarian dragons

just think back to your history classes and you'll get it

[ionic fern]

The second big offender for me was Nokhud's thrash before the last boss.
EVERYTHING needs to be interrupted

FeaR? Gotta interrupt.
2x stuns - gotta interrupt
AoE damage - gotta interrupt

Wtf

[pallid quiver]

I've been meaning to check the fastest route to hit none of that trash

it's not worth it when there's so much other trash you can slap

[warm plinth]

I've only done 3 keys so far, with the highest being a 5

Hopefully get to do real shit this weekend

[oblique garnet]

You can go around all of them

without any specific classes

[ionic fern]

I just W'ed.

Diddn't bother to chekc routes/%

[oblique garnet]

yeah thats a mistake

[pallid quiver]

give me the insight, late

[compact jackal]

Well, I just did a pull on heroic Terros.

[bleak stump]

im trying to decide between dh/war tank can anyone tell me some bonuses prot has

[compact jackal]

You'll never guess where I was on DPS

[compact jackal]

you do damage

[pallid quiver]

shield slam go CLONK

[ionic fern]

Just letting my anger go right now by writing on Discord.

[warm plinth]

Good, that way you won't cap rage

[oblique garnet]

Go right on dragon and jump over the wall

[bleak stump]

my war/dh are around the same ilvl and my dh is doing way more damage currently

[compact jackal]

Prot is supposed to compete for top DPS in a raid on single target, right?

[oblique garnet]

Repeat till you are on the last 2 mobs before the boss

[ionic fern]

Where did you make up for the trash %?
Cause the trash near the duo boss felt also pretty horrid.

[bleak stump]

im doing around 50-70k on my burst as a DH only around 40 as prot

[ionic fern]

That's wayyyy too low.

[warm plinth]

40k burst is uh

not good

[bleak stump]

they are only 330 ilvl lol

[compact jackal]

I'm doing like uh

90-100k prot burst I think?

[ionic fern]

I think the highest i did was near 200k..but it was a big pack.

[compact jackal]

I know I do like 60-80k sustained AoE

[bleak stump]

can someone send me a guide then lol

[compact jackal]

Remember your ABCs

[ionic fern]

Jeah, we're gonna get pummeled with DPS nerfs.
And then once we actually start doing serious content and go into defensive stance our DPS is trash cause it got balanced around Battle Stance.

[compact jackal]

Anever
Bleave
Cbattlestance

[ionic fern]

[pallid quiver]

Listen to Mwahi on IcyVeins, then press buttons fast

also, yeah that

[bleak stump]

lol yeah i was in defensive stance

[pallid quiver]

Don't be in Defensive Stance unless you can't help it

It's like an 11% damage difference or something after accounting for the crit

[bleak stump]

can someone link me a talent build

[compact jackal]

IV or WoWhead tbh

[pallid quiver]

Nome's got multiple builds for ya in there, too

[bleak stump]

so once i learn it and gear and everything prot would be better than veng?

[pallid quiver]

in damage? i unno, maybe

i don't really track the other tanks that well

[ionic fern]

All the tanks are fine right now. There WILL be tuning soon.
Play what you enjoy.

[bleak stump]

just in general my dh im doing way more damage on but i have a lot more fun on the warrior lol

but i clearly suck with it lol

[ionic fern]

Defensively prot is easy to play.
Offensively you need to put some thought / effort / practice into it.

[bleak stump]

guess im kinda just asking if its worth it to put in the time and work to learn it

but thanks for all your feedback everyone that responded

[brittle owl]

mwahi why are you a 90 degree rotated french flag

[ionic fern]

Totally biased opinion - Yes.

[ionic fern]

Cause i gave up surrendered ~~on ~~ to the FOTM re-rollers.

[bleak stump]

ive just been tanking with a DH since legion and want something new

[compact jackal]

shields > dual wield

[brittle owl]

how bout

dual wield shields

[compact jackal]

Who would you rather have in your party, Drizzt or Gigachad McShield?

[brittle owl]

[compact jackal]

Friends don't let friends twf

[bleak stump]

ive literally only tanked 2 normals on prot war at 330 ilvl but im just sick of playing a DH its been like 7 years lol

[brittle owl]

tbh anything would feel fresh after 7 years of the same thing

[pallid quiver]

i'm broken

i've been playing prot war since BC

[bleak stump]

yeah but warrior SEEMS fun like i said even though i was trash i was having fun lol

[pallid quiver]

(technically vanilla, but it was like 4 months before BC)

[brittle owl]

100% yeah

[bleak stump]

was bear since wrath till legion then DH till now lol

but ima head to bed and ima stick with the war thanks everyone and gnite!

[cinder storm]

How are you guys dealing with the last pack in temple, I stood there too long and got deleted lol

[strong forum]

Wait For it to get nerfed

[cinder storm]

[pallid quiver]

oh thank god someone else said it

[cinder storm]

I'll kite it I guess, but man, temple slaps

[pallid quiver]

i was wanting to shitpost with that comment every time

but yeah that pack is not something i want to mess with

[limber prism]

Is there any good general opinion on what I should spend my Sparks on?

[cinder storm]

From what I can say, shield if you need a higher shield or weapon, most people are going after the neck across all class discords

Honestly I think it's safer to wait a bit more, who knows if neck will get nerfed

[tall cedar]

Hey guys elemental lariant is better than this one ?

[storm merlin]

Stats are stats
And how often do you fight demons?

[warm plinth]

Heroic Rasz WF 😮

[blazing condor]

every morning

by whom

[warm plinth]

Liquid

[blazing condor]

big

[novel temple]

I posted the old TCG card for dual wielding shields in the transmog channel I think

[brittle owl]

every time you appear in tank discords

[novel temple]

@cinder storm I feel like the last pack in temple is some bullshit. Honestly the jobs that do shattered resolve. Like I just get fucking domed by it the first time, then every time after that I can see the air and not get trucked.

[noble lynx]

Lust it

[storm merlin]

rude

[novel temple]

Honestly I think I’d rather wall* that shit and sit in d stance than waste a lust on it

Unless we gonna lust and pull boss together with it

Which I’d love to do that but pugs suck

[uneven robin]

so

https://i.imgur.com/uTHHVF8.png

[cinder storm]

I thought about that but the thing is, they rage too fast or the big guy spawns adds and if I kite then one dps will probably run like a headless chicken to the other side of the room

[uneven robin]

ignore pain should be first right

by a huge margin

[novel temple]

Yeah

[cinder storm]

Yes lol

[uneven robin]

aight. was tanking with another prot that was barely poping it

[cinder storm]

Probably was wasting rage

[uneven robin]

i mean his IP was at 240k

mine was at 5 million

[novel temple]

Lol what

That dude popped like 4-6 ignore pains the entire time then

[cinder storm]

By mistake

[novel temple]

Yeah

[loud patrol]

i feel so good

[pallid quiver]

they had to spend their rage on IV, don't you see?

[uneven robin]

idk, that was kinda frustrating to see tbh

[loud patrol]

imma gonna brag guys

[pallid quiver]

did they at least press shield block?

because i've seen prot wars not do that

[uneven robin]

... lemme check

[ionic fern]

Ok.

[novel temple]

I got those too calc!

[novel temple]

And the trinket

[uneven robin]

oh yeah he did. close to 100% uptime atleast

[loud patrol]

[ionic fern]

I got 0 loot cause you know..loot council.

[cinder storm]

[novel temple]

Some rest pally from a shitty server did try to need on the trinket

[ionic fern]

[loud patrol]

[novel temple]

And rip

[loud patrol]

wait if not the tank

they who they gave it to

[ionic fern]

DPS'ers.

Always DPS'ers.

[loud patrol]

.-.

[novel temple]

The trinket?

[vivid orchid]

[storm merlin]

DPS >>> heal >>>>>> tanks for general gearing

[novel temple]

Or just all the other gear?

[ionic fern]

All the gear.

That drops

Is prioritised for the DPS'ers.

Once they don't want any..then healers and tanks.

[novel temple]

Even a trinket that clearly is for tanks?

[vivid orchid]

that thing does sick dps

[novel temple]

It does

[cinder storm]

If it dropped for you it's ok to keep it

[ionic fern]

Oh, no, not tank trinkets.

[loud patrol]

well the whole raid sort of feels like a dps check some way or another

[vivid orchid]

but at least not for raiding so you can keep it 😛

[novel temple]

Still does pretty decent single target

[vivid orchid]

aye

[novel temple]

Plus shield is nice

[loud patrol]

the hard part is tomorrow to find a pug that hasnt killed council but killed spider, rock and lizard

[warm plinth]

Is this a weird version of rock paper scissors we're talking about here

[ionic fern]

One of these warriors..is not a DPS.

[loud patrol]

feels like

[ionic fern]

[loud patrol]

why i feel that 95 parse is from a prot

[onyx matrix]

Have you guys downed spider yet?

[loud patrol]

i have

[ionic fern]

No, that's actually a fury.

😄

[loud patrol]

thank god

[noble lynx]

i only did on dh on 15 but we lusted it

[novel temple]

Duh, the 100 is the prot

[ionic fern]

But everyone below the other warrior are DPS'ers.

[loud patrol]

i have been already in 3 m+ where i beat a fury in overall dps

[noble lynx]

and just told dps to nuke all

[ionic fern]

Our fury blasts.

[blazing condor]

mwahi out here actually raiding? pog

[novel temple]

Another reason, I hate pugging. Beating dps on boss damage 🥴

[ionic fern]

Jeah.

And doing m+.

[blazing condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/801876810261463041.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[hollow parcel]

Lets just reroll at this point

[static aspen]

is there any spell reflect weakauras for DF yet that someone of you have found working? Seems all i get from Wago just does not work

[sweet summit]

what's the lore on spell block in RLP

[broken stratus]

anyone know how to make a macro that combine the two stance in 1 button? if i am in battle stand, it swaps me into d stance.

[next apex]

U punch the spell back. With ur shield.

[sweet summit]

pins

[ionic fern]

Kurog, Dirna, Raszgareth were all pretty spicy.
Though Kurog/Dirna mostly because we ignored half the tank swaps.

[hollow parcel]

But i mean let us have this moment that this spec feels good

[ionic fern]

We have been feeling good for a pretty long time already.

🤔

[hollow parcel]

Can’t relate was a DK before

[warm plinth]

I think you mean rass;iljeqhpweheth

Wait there's a z in it

rass;iljeqhpwehethz

[ionic fern]

Then the statement you made above has 0 value to it. 😂

But i'm glad you're enjoying Prot warrior.

[ionic fern]

Raszghatasha

Something

Raszg

[warm plinth]

😂

[blazing condor]

Razzberry

[warm plinth]

Until today I actually thought it was Rastageth but apparently it's Raszageth

I was like great, we're gonna fight a jamaican dragon

baited 😦

[hollow parcel]

Yeah actually love the new talent changes and playstyle now compared to before

[ionic fern]

Well, there are still 3 more dragons to fight.

Maybe the fire one is jamaican.

[warm plinth]

😮

[hollow parcel]

You think he sounds like Bwonsamdi?

[warm plinth]

Plot twist, Bwonsamdi was a dragonkin all along

[hollow parcel]

Could be

[severe steeple]

Bring back bwonsamdi, it’s not fair

Best warcraft character in ages

[hollow parcel]

Bwonsamdi>

[ionic fern]

Bring back Vol'jin.

To heck with it.
Bring back all old characters.

[blazing condor]

i still have vol'jins urn in my bank

[warm plinth]

Vol'jin was done so dirty

[blazing condor]

because it never left after i did the quest

[severe steeple]

The story could use a reroll or two

[blazing condor]

he'll be with me forever ❤️

[ionic fern]

Jeah. 😦

[warm plinth]

I don't use my bank

Is that weird

[ionic fern]

No.

[abstract holly]

does anyone know the best embelishments?

[ionic fern]

Neither do i.

[cinder storm]

Love your new nick/pic

[warm plinth]

[blazing condor]

[warm plinth]

I got a lappytoppy today

[proven depot]

whats BIS trinket for prot warrior?

[abstract holly]

@warm plinth maybe you should check the pins? theres nothing mentioning embelishments niether in the wowhead article

[warm plinth]

I think you should check again my friend

[tropic sundial]

I was going to do that

[onyx pike]

Are you guys doing the mini-bosses in RLP? It seems my friends and I can't skip these dragons once they landed.

also someone always body pulls them somehow, i dont get how they work.

[severe steeple]

I don’t bother with skips first month

[severe steeple]

ESP those dragons someone will always fuck up

[ionic fern]

Do you even look...? Literally both of those places have

Info.

[abstract holly]

now listen here you sons of bitches......im sorry yep didnt see that....F dude i suck

[warm plinth]

I just added the info to both places, to be fair.

[ionic fern]

[pallid quiver]

oh my god he apologized, i like this guy, can we keep him?

[ionic fern]

No, ban.

[onyx pike]

But are they avoidable in general?

[warm plinth]

I typed so fast I went back in time

[tropic sundial]

Someone admitted they were wrong! Incredible!

[abstract holly]

brb crawling under the rock whence i came

[pallid quiver]

In like the past month, that's literally revolutionary. I'mma actually remember this guy

[warm plinth]

😂 you're good dude

[pallid quiver]

you're not allowed, killchain

you're this weird thing called a reasonable human being

we love people like you

[uncut notch]

How was our day one boys?

[abstract holly]

haha all good appreciate the help.

[uncut notch]

Had some good keys and then got fucked in a vaults 12

[warm plinth]

WF Heroic belongs to NA, which is kinda like being super happy that you won a footrace on the playground in 3rd grade

[uncut notch]

Hoping to crack +15 this week

[warm plinth]

But I'll take the win

[abstract holly]

legit the fury has this beautiful list of bis gear with specific sources and you can clearly see the 2 embelish slots etc but the gear section of prot didnt have that and i could not find it to save my life

[ionic fern]

Great.

[uncut notch]

Sarcasm scan: ACTIVATE!

[warm plinth]

Not trying to be sarcastic here, but Ctrl+F is a lifesaver

[uncut notch]

RESULT: unclear

[shut flare]

is prot warr and blood dk a goodcombo?

[ionic fern]

It's below the BIS lists.
Trickier for prot to include since there are offensive AND defensive options.

[ionic fern]

Actually not sarscam.

Was great.

[pallid quiver]

I didn't actually try to pug raid today

[ionic fern]

Did raiding, downed bosses, got my m+ team back together, did some keys..had some laughs.

Was actually having fun in the game after 2 years.

[pallid quiver]

I'm getting pretty confident I'm going to end up not hitting the raid at this point

[ionic fern]

[uncut notch]

I’m really pleased to hear it man, I remember you just stopped playing in SL and I’m pleased DF has recaptured some fun for you friend

[warm plinth]

Dragonriding has saved us

[ionic fern]

How was your day one?

[ionic fern]

I'm using flightpaths cause then i can AFK and do other things.

[warm plinth]

But what about the dargons

[ionic fern]

I'm killing dragons.

[uncut notch]

I didn’t get as much time to push as I wanted but still had a lot of fun. Managed to proc inspired and make myself a 392 mace which is cool

[ionic fern]

Pretty sure my dragon will run away soon.

[ionic fern]

[abstract holly]

i genuinely dont think ive ever looked this incompetant in my life

[uncut notch]

Ended on a failed vaults 12 but will push more later in the week

[abstract holly]

what a day

[shut flare]

anyone?

[warm plinth]

A good combo for what sir

[hazy minnow]

Has anyone gotten their elemental lariat yet?

[tropic sundial]

Crafters on my server are charging a 30/50k commission for lariat 😒

[shut flare]

for some raids?

[abstract holly]

i have

[pallid quiver]

Area 52, Arcana?

[tropic sundial]

Draenor EU

[warm plinth]

Oh, fucked if I know

I'm sure bdk/pwar is fine?

[abstract holly]

kanamë-dreadmaul is doing them literlaly only 400g commish

alt code 0235 for the weird e

great guy

[ionic fern]

If it makes you feel any better then i'm currently suggesting a INT 1h Sword in my guide apparently.

[pallid quiver]

Ah, those are Area 52 prices, too

[ionic fern]

[pallid quiver]

We need smart

To outsmart the dress boys

[severe steeple]

My checklist for today:
Wipe cause dps don’t kick
Get called shit
Probably get loot
Wipe on normal raid

[warm plinth]

You need to calm down, we forgive you already smh 😂

[ionic fern]

I once saw a ret paladin use a int potion and when i asked his reasoning it was "I do holy damage".

[warm plinth]

oh dear

[ionic fern]

I mean..

Can't flaw him.

Makes sense.

🤷

[warm plinth]

Once upon a time he would've been right

[severe steeple]

A friend of mine was using the phials that give main stat when you take damage, on an evoker

[brittle owl]

100% he didnt catch up with the modern game

[severe steeple]

Cause it gave him int

[brittle owl]

sounds like an innocent assumption tbh

[abstract holly]

sounds like me at 15 years old telling people pvp was real content pve was just scripted and lame and ez while also being the rogue on 300ms american servers keyboard turning and clicking buttons

[warm plinth]

I did PvP last expansion on my rogue and I played with this BDK in 2s and I would just stay stealthed while he soloed everyone

Because I'm really good at PvP

[abstract holly]

400 iq strats

[brittle owl]

200iq gameplay

[ionic fern]

That's guardian druid right now tho.

[brittle owl]

win while you sleep

[ionic fern]

So you can do it again.

[warm plinth]

You wanna see a fun clip of that though

I thought it was hilarious

https://www.twitch.tv/dooteranopia/clip/KawaiiInexpensiveGalagoMingLee

Try not to be distracted by my cuteness

[blazing condor]

i failed

[ionic fern]

Get convoked noob.

😂

[ionic fern]

It's fine.
In failure we learn.

[warm plinth]

The funny thing is that shortly before this clip, he had said he would be fine

[pallid quiver]

shadowlands pvp sure was something

[ionic fern]

Tbf.

I'm getting almost 1 shot by the Evoker "FLY THROUGH EVERYTHING" ability.

Super fun.

[warm plinth]

That's why it's called Deep Breath

[ionic fern]

But if i manage to pop SW before that and survive they just fall over.

😂

[warm plinth]

Take a deeeep breath aaaaand shit on people

[severe steeple]

There is probably a percentage of the dragonkin furry population that wants to do just that

And blizzard knows it

[blazing condor]

experiencing convoke for the first time in pvp was something

oh im stunned... he's casting something

oh im dead

[cinder storm]

I thought a bunch of blue critters were going to come out

[median niche]

Does anyone else have problem that u cant klick the npcs on the last event in court of stars?

[ionic fern]

I had that yesterday, only with the first one tho.

[median niche]

is it a bug or something

[ionic fern]

Not sure.

👀

Only done CoS one time atm.

But no one else seemed to have that issue in my group.

[median niche]

i have done it 12 times and is have only worked once flawlessly

[unreal marlin]

wdo we have new data for helm and SPikes etc. what is the best for M+ now?

[warm plinth]

Thunderlord is fine. FbV is fine. BSV is pointless.

[severe steeple]

this fbv vs bv is getting too pepega

how much can be said for sucha minor defensive talent

[modern bloom]

how about Lariat after nerf? still number one embellishment?

[warm plinth]

Probably isn't aware of BSV's major failing is all

[long stone]

if you get the drop xD yeah

[tropic sundial]

Someone was trying to sell the recipe in trade chat for 7M yesterday on my server lol

[prisma crane]

gonna say this though, BSV is dope AF in PvP

[warm plinth]

I mean idk why he would use it if he did

There's 0 use in proccing it when you're full HP with all your CDs available

[prisma crane]

i dont think a warrior like Pika isnt aware of how that talent works

that said, even Nerf isnt using it

[warm plinth]

It's not about knowing how the talent works. It's about knowing that it's bugged.

[ionic fern]

That's wrong on a lot of levels.
Plka is a great prot warrior..but talents/abilities are and can be bugged.

Literally over-night.

[warm plinth]

Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't know that since no one recommends even taking it

[prisma crane]

what's the current bug with BSV?

[warm plinth]

It procs based on premitigation damage

Which means it can literally proc when you're full HP when your HP does not move

[prisma crane]

sounds almost like a good bug if you can purposefully plan it lol

[prisma crane]

fair enough

[warm plinth]

Random question, does anyone have the quaking WA that displays as a faint ring in the center of your screen and makes the sound when you're overlapping someone?

[jagged pier]

what key lvl is he doing?

if hes pushing for 20

[warm plinth]

There's like 8 billion quaking WAs on wago so I can't find it

[ionic fern]

Probably..17-18?

[jagged pier]

makes a lot of sense

[ionic fern]

Not sure tho.

[jagged pier]

top key in the world last night was 18

so if hes in that lvl

BSV is fine

like he would have had 2 raid days doesnt mean hes got any gear

[sick sentinel]

Yes he's in that level

[jagged pier]

this is the difference between knowing why and when to use it

[jagged pier]

and not

[ionic fern]

He's already 394.

[jagged pier]

im 390

[ionic fern]

I'm 379.

[warm plinth]

I mean under normal circumstances, sure. I just don't see how it would be particularly useful in its bugged state.

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

Did you get gear from raid? o.o

[sick sentinel]

Nerf: "Taking the season off for the baby."

Also nerf: First 19 of the season.

[jagged pier]

yer some

[ionic fern]

😦

No lootcouncil?

[jagged pier]

but i wont get any from HC or mythic cause dps first

[warm plinth]

[jagged pier]

so i grabbed all the none tier pieces which was an ilvl increase

[warm plinth]

The baby is the one playing

[ionic fern]

😦

[jagged pier]

and im only one in raid that uses strength 1 handers

[ionic fern]

Lucky.
We had NM lootcouncil already and all went to DPS'ers.

[jagged pier]

and 2 tank trinkets dropped

[ionic fern]

[jagged pier]

still need a laritat maker on my server

damn bugged recipe

[ionic fern]

I think we got one. 👀

At least i saw someone promoting in trade chat..

[wary heath]

got these bad boys....also I didn't even read the loot and won a 2H by accident, not sure why i was allowed to roll on it. i can't be trusted

[ionic fern]

[jagged pier]

thats a tier piece slot

[wary heath]

ill just get the other 4

[jagged pier]

but u want helm for embelishment

🤔

[ionic fern]

Maybe he wants something else for embelishment.

[wary heath]

[ionic fern]

I want tier..but i won't get tier.
Pretty sure they are using some excel sheet to see the DPS increase for tier..and tanks aren't there.

[jagged pier]

they arent

our teir set is doggo remeber dropping it in execute is a dps increase

[ionic fern]

Jeah, but in m+ it's still a increase.

[jagged pier]

cause they didnt add execute to it

[ionic fern]

Like overall.

[blazing condor]

will we still get tier from vault in m+?

or we gotta catalyst something

[wary heath]

can the vault drop raid tier ?

[ionic fern]

🤷

[gilded zodiac]

no

[wary heath]

[jagged pier]

i believe it still can would be dumb for them not to do that

[pliant whale]

Is BV worth? Or is it overcapping IP?

[jagged pier]

its bugged

and u overcapp IP all the tiem

cause u drop rage into IP

[ionic fern]

Did you swap to FBV?

[jagged pier]

no

[ionic fern]

Also too lazy and using BrV?

😂

[jagged pier]

ye

but i mean i do drop IP somtimes

so it does do a little

[ionic fern]

Juh.

[calm sapphire]

Yes

[grim mural]

As someone who enjoys pushing keys (mostly with pugs), would it be unreasonable to reroll from vdh to pwar? I can't make up my mind.

[calm sapphire]

M+ and PvP vault can drop tier

[ionic fern]

Play what you enjoy.

[jagged pier]

thats down to what class u enjoy more

VDH is giga strong

[obsidian path]

Balance comes and goes, play what you like in the first place

[ionic fern]

The most "success" i've had from a "let me save pugs" PoV is probably paladin.

[wary heath]

VDH and PWAR great for pugging keys

[jagged pier]

your gunna have just issues pugging because dungeon are a coordination
nightmare

[ionic fern]

What, you don't like 50 casts on the same pack that need to be interrupted?

[warm plinth]

BrV! YESSSSS

[calm sapphire]

mfw the dh complains that we're losing time because I didn't see the last elemental

[jagged pier]

i do not like that

😂

[calm sapphire]

proceeds to do a double dash and pull last miniboss of RLP

[jagged pier]

they said they wanted to make it more like a thing to push for ppl that enjoy it

but they probably gunna have to nerf alot

[ionic fern]

Jeah..a ton.

[wary heath]

hydrolance hydrolance hydrolance hydrolance

[jagged pier]

like they killed keys in bfa as they added fort and tyran to keys lower than 10 and that killed the casual keys because ppl couldnt cope with the extra damage

[grim mural]

Yeah, I guess you're right. Pugging will be hell either way :D

[wary heath]

it always is, but it's part of the experience

[tender quartz]

Do I understand correct

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[tender quartz]

Running +11 and higher gives you after 10 the

lmfao

The 405 Itemthingie

But how long does the Mythic take from Mythic Bosses, do we know?

[wary heath]

i understand some of these words, but not in the order they are in

[tender quartz]

Ney I meant the thingie where you can craft a 418 out of it

[ionic fern]

According to this, +12 gives you 405 from great vault.

[wary heath]

i think he's talking about farming primal infusions

[ionic fern]

Oo

[tender quartz]

The 2 crafting reagents we can add, my apologies

[latent hedge]

does that only drop in vault or can you get end of dungeon too?

[jagged pier]

the primal infusions i believe they require sparks for most of the gear u can upgrade with it

so its kinda

held back by that

[tender quartz]

Yea that's the 405 Item Thingie

And I was wondering about the Mythic Equivalent

[wary heath]

yes, that can drop in M_

[tender quartz]

If we already know how many Bosskills it'd take

[warm plinth]

10 I imagine? I'm assuming it's 1 per boss

[ionic fern]

I think it's like this:
Primal Infusion = above +15
Primal Focus (combine 10 to convert to Primal Infusion) = 10-15 level

[jagged pier]

it take 10 runs

[tender quartz]

Primal Infusions dropped 100% for +11 for me btw

11 and higher*

[ionic fern]

Sure it wasn't Focus?

👀

[warm plinth]

They're both focus

[tender quartz]

Uh let me check sorry

[warm plinth]

The 405 one is primal focus

[jagged pier]

100% focus

[wary heath]

what do you mean 100%

[warm plinth]

The higher one is concentrated primal focus

Primal infusion is just what they're used for

[tender quartz]

But 10 Mythic Bosskills seem alright

[warm plinth]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=190455/concentrated-primal-focus is the +16 and higher one

[tender quartz]

Oh

OH

So +11 gives 405 and +15 higher gives the 418 upgrade?

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[tender quartz]

I pulled an allnight I apologize

Sorry for the confusion

So that's 10 x M15 for a 418 Crafted Item if anyone has the skill for it, correct?

[warm plinth]

+11-15 drops Primal Focus which is for Primal Infusion. +16 and up drops Concentrated Primal Focus which is for Concentrated Primal Infusion.

It'd be 16, but yeah I assume it's 1 per dungeon

Don't forget you'd need 150 primal chaos too and that's just to make the infusion, not counting what you need for the item itself.

[tender quartz]

Did we need the Spark itself too? I kinda forgot

Or could we just add Primal and get it to 405/418

Currently not logged in to check

Rephrase: Would a spark be required for all items to upgrade them that high

[steep wraith]

Need the spark, but can recraft the 405 later

[tender quartz]

Gotcha

Idk should I dump my valor into the Haste Vers Shield although I got a crafted 392 one? I could upgrade the Lariat later I guess...

[steep wraith]

You'll get more sparks soon

[tender quartz]

I guess it would be a neat over-the counter thingie until I can upgrade higher eh?

This would be current gear, and Sparks are in Lariat and Shield, but I dropped the Haste / Vers on 389 and it costs only 250per and we're Tanks after all

Just dunno if the Valor would be "wasted" or "worth" it

[steep wraith]

Valor only goes to 415, spark can (with the right crafter) go to 418, and +20 vault is 421

[mortal brook]

I'm not spending any valor until 2400 personally, itll be on 405 gear

[tender quartz]

Yea I did not miss the cap at all ._.

[steep wraith]

Being as vault can be rng, I'm going to craft weapon/shield to ensure it's 418 at some point without wasting valor

[tender quartz]

Would I feel a 12+ iLvl higher shield in M+? :/

[mortal brook]

Put your first infusion into the shield to make it 405

[steep wraith]

and if I get lucky with the vault, I've wasted a spark = /

[tender quartz]

Yea fair enough Steve that's better

[steep wraith]

But at least I had a decent weapon/shield

after that, probably going to spark bracer/helm from engi, as they can single stat haste with their crafts

[long stone]

is there a way to "farm" the shell trinket <.<?

or a good

rare which can drop it?

[bold turret]

Any tips for Nokhudon Hold with the elemental trash? I am getting globalled in 14.

[crimson furnace]

that trinket

it looks decent

was in a +13

[steep wraith]

Desync the arcing slashes by storm bolting one of the mobs (primalist arcblade)

Nothing else hits that hard to global you there

[plucky ocean]

Hi guys ive been very unlucky with 1h weapon for Prot. I am considering crafting one since you can upgrade it further. Is this a good idea ?

If yes its a good idea what would be the best one for us ?

[mortal brook]

Wowhead would have a lost of nocs that drop it. Its like half of all the rares

[tender quartz]

Uhm...

This thing. Apparently 9% Uptime during M+?

Saw no other listed buff that associated with it.

[warm plinth]

well it's a shield so

it's gonna go away when it's consumed

[severe steeple]

its a 2 ppm proc WHILE taking dmg

[warm plinth]

It would be 20% if the shield lasted the full duration

[severe steeple]

iirc

[warm plinth]

wowhead states that it's 1ppm

[severe steeple]

do i think of the other scale? same icon?

[warm plinth]

maybe, not sure

[tame blaze]

Anyone tested frostfire legguards in mythic+ yet? They sim really high for me

[wet jungle]

Can anyone give me the best formula for learning these dungeons? Do you guys study routes etc before ever going in or just learn through trial and error? First time trying to M+

[ionic fern]

For me..
I just W the dungeons for the first week.
Once i get into higher keys i check routes.

[blazing condor]

its fun to create routes

[wide charm]

spent 70min in an AV 14 to learn the dungeon

[wet jungle]

Okok

What are we calling higher keys? Done a court of stars 2 yday and if I didn't have someone else telling me where to go I would have been completely lost

[ionic fern]

It's up to you what you consider a higher key.

I did 10's by just pressing W

And i don't count them even close to high.

[wet jungle]

Wow ok lol

[ionic fern]

If you're really-really new to dungeons then you can probably find a lot of videos on youtube explaining mechanics and things.

[blazing condor]

yeah its very relative but historically you can hold W without any complicated strats or routes up to like 20s

gonna be hard of course to do that week one but

when you catch up on gear

[short elk]

What are most peoples dps pulling in m+? running w rl friends and it seems their dmg is low - just looking for a reference so I can help them out

[silent anchor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/764765158341345291/1052860437844197446/oh.JPG

[wet jungle]

Okok interesting, thanks guys

[silent anchor]

Tank or dps trinket

[blazing condor]

ive only done a few baby keys but i did about 35-40k with 370

depending on dungeon though ofc

[silent anchor]

I done 30k last night but was half asleep and azure vault

[ionic fern]

This was a +11 Academy

Most dungeons i'm checking atm it's between 40-50k

Not a big pool to check from currently as we only did like 8 keys

And most of them were in the idea of "What happens if i pull this..."

[blazing condor]

nerf pwar

[sick sentinel]

Nerf Mwahi

Future so bright that's why he wear the shades

[slender blade]

I must be doing smth wrong, need to upload a log because I am much higher ILVL (380) and have never been close to that overall lol, maybe only in Alg but a big maybe

[plucky ocean]

Hi guys ive been very unlucky with 1h weapon for Prot. I am considering crafting one since you can upgrade it further. Is this a good idea ?
If yes its a good idea what would be the best one for us ?

[ionic fern]

Jeah, log is a great way to start.
What talents are you using?

[ionic fern]

What's your 1h weapon ilvl?
Do you have a 382 Matrix ? You can just craft that one. 🤷

Otherwise just spam dungeons and hope for one.

[slender blade]

Basically exactly this, I do need to just take a log certainly though

[ionic fern]

Okay, your talents are more or less fine, so it must be something with your gameplay - this we can see from logs. Just let us know when you have one and we can dig deeper.

[sick sentinel]

Call him Stanley cuz he digging deep

[slender blade]

I will do!

[strong forum]

skyhold represent

[minor helm]

[unique shale]

finally its here boys

[flint cliff]

What is the best way to take battle-scarred veteran (where to get the talentpoint from the m+ build?)?

[strong forum]

show of force or thunderlord

[flint cliff]

ty

[unique shale]

what would be ideal craft from blacksmithing i already made a shield

weapon ?

[strong forum]

weapon for ilvl gain
necklace for bis item

[slim dove]

1 neck crafter on my server

wants 400k comm

[unique shale]

cap

[ionic fern]

Better than the 100g i'm getting for crafts.

[slim dove]

praying it drops by like 50k a day until its reasonable

[unique shale]

tbh if i were you i would have lvl a alt and learn Jewelcrafting on it

[slim dove]

the fact im missing out on like 800 haste rn is upsetting

[unique shale]

i am already doing it on my third alt XD

[slim dove]

using the 389 rep neck

i get like 4 hours a day to play, id rather push keys

[true cairn]

so the JC neck with proc's is shit for us or??

[unique shale]

maybe a guildy can craft you ?

i mean it doesn't have to be lvl 5

[ionic fern]

No.

[slim dove]

theres (1) (one) pattern on the server

[true cairn]

would you craft it with proc then?

[slim dove]

yes, its bis.

[true cairn]

instead of rep neck from warthion or?

okay fair

[unique shale]

i mean i made shield instant of neck so its up to you

but i already got a neck from dung

[slim dove]

I made a shield already. this is my second spark.

[unique shale]

same here but for second one idk what to do i think i going with weapon

then head and wrist from engineering

[sudden crystal]

What do you think guys is the best option dfor crafting spark?

[vernal mural]

Do you pick haste or vers in Academy?

[ionic fern]

Crit.

[ionic fern]

Shield/Weapon/neck are my go-to's.

[high drum]

a ring is nice cos you still equip your second best

i put the food buff embellish on ring

[jagged ferry]

@ionic fern can you post your mythic + talents please?

[ionic fern]

The green circles are sometimes swapped.

[jagged ferry]

Thanks so much

[ionic fern]

Oh, wait. Currently i'm also using ITF over HR.

But everything else is the same.

[jagged ferry]

What determines the swaps between the circles?

[modern folio]

did they fix brutal vitality ?

[severe steeple]

just crafted lariat, can't wait for nerf next week

[ionic fern]

I don't actively swap between them. I've mostly defaulted to Honed and Battering Ram for m+.
TL will probably be once i feel like i need more DS up-time.
Honed is more of a "use this point on w/e".

I will swap from ITF to HR once i need more block up-time.

[stone horizon]

Dudes, i made a macro with Shield Slam, Ignore Pain and Shield Block. Is that really really lazy or ok?

[ionic fern]

So as the keys go higher.

[jagged ferry]

Copy that, appreciate it Mwahi

[ionic fern]

PLEASE SHOW ME.

[drifting fable]

[topaz crescent]

Would BSV be worth taking if they fix it?

[ionic fern]

If you need it. 🤷

[topaz crescent]

seems like it would be pretty good if it proc'd when it's supposed to

yeah I guess it follows the same logic as for the other "cheat" deaths

[ionic fern]

Jeah, exactly.

[upbeat pine]

Guys, Leech or Avoidance enchant on cloak?

[ionic fern]

Leech.

[stone horizon]

Pretty much this

#showtooltip Shield Slam
/cast Shield Block
/cast Shield Slam
/cast Ignore Pain

[ionic fern]

But no.

Never do that.

[true cairn]

its not the shielding neck but the dmg neck right

[ionic fern]

Elemental Lariat

[true cairn]

roger

[ionic fern]

No, it's Mwahi.

[vale lily]

Hmmh, after/before neck shield with armor spikes or bleed helm

[devout pewter]

guys, sorry, but i saw that many are making sword 1h, my crafter can only make axes, but is there something different that maybe i missed?

[ionic fern]

Nope.

Craft which ever you can.

[tribal minnow]

Hey gents, I feel a little overwhelmed with all the crafting options at the moment, I've read the pinned messages, but I still feel a little like a walking ???
can you guys lay it on me plain and simple, what's the best thing to use my spark on this week?
on launch I used my first spark on making my own engineering bracers which I plan to keep upgrading for the benefits the socket can provide in m+.

[tropic sundial]

Does anyone know if added sockets/gems are kept during recrafting (say if I get the lariat recrafted with an upgrade item later on)?

[edgy grail]

Yes

[tropic sundial]

Thanks

[true cairn]

you wanna go only Haste gems or Haste and Vers Gems?

in neck

@ionic fern

[peak badger]

Guys whats the best embelishment for prot warrior weapon?

[vernal mural]

why not haste when its our bis stat?

[uneven mason]

Crit is big pumpers

[solemn magnet]

Did a 13 last night and kept getting clapped by Dark Claw in temple of the Jade serpent. Can you just walk out of the cast? I feel like a dumdum

[slim dove]

Kite them once they rage

Go in for spell reflects

[fair stump]

What should I craft with my sparks, I just found out about them.. been living under a rock

[heavy temple]

Is it possible to remove and embelishment?

[quaint inlet]

Recraft without

[heavy temple]

How?

it is automatically in

when i try to go for recraft order

[quaint inlet]

did you try right clicking?

[uneven mason]

No AFAIK

[heavy temple]

of course

i tried clicking it ^^

[heavy temple]

that would be so bad

I got armor spikes shield

[uneven mason]

Me too

[heavy temple]

but I think you want vers wrsit and neck

wrist*

[uneven mason]

Tbh

It's not going to make or break anything

[pallid quiver]

I've heard there's a bug related to removing embellishments from crafted gear, though it's supposed to work that way

[heavy temple]

of course it doesnt make or break anything

[summer hamlet]

I'm starting to level a Prot warrior but it feels really slow paced, does it get better once 70 ?

[heavy temple]

youll have plenty of apm

[pallid quiver]

Once you get about like, Outburst tier talents is when you should start seeing it pick up, iirc, but I haven't raw levelled a warrior in a while

[summer hamlet]

I'm 62 atm but I feel like, I only need to press shield slam, revenge and thunder clap, some cd def occasionally.

[pallid quiver]

You should be needing to press IP to prevent from overcapping

which fuels into avatar

[summer hamlet]

my rage regen is quite low

[pallid quiver]

but those are definitely your three most pressed buttons, yes

You should not be having poor rage gen at that level, since at worst you should have Outburst and Shield Charge, which are some of your biggest rage generators

[steady steppe]

Ravager is helpful with rage gen

[pallid quiver]

unless you're using bloodsurge in ST or something

[fluid shard]

No idea if it's a place where i'll get my answer but tonight, we are going back to the raid and are now on Dathea (normal). Since on Normal, both adds spawn on platform, do you have one tank on boss and the other tank on the two adds while you kill them one at a time?

[neon terrace]

Correct, kill adds one at a time, close to a edge so the whole raid doesn't fly off

[fluid shard]

and as Warrior, i can insta charge on boss knockback i'm guessing?

[neon terrace]

Correct

[sand pebble]

we had 1 tank on boss with 1 add and other tank take add out to where we kill it

[fluid shard]

thanks to you both!

how many stacks of the boss felt right to switch on, it looks like a long debuff

[sand pebble]

we swapped at 3

[scenic olive]

1st tank one stack at pull, swap, then 3 from there works well for add timer.

[left barn]

elow, sophic or frozen devotion for m+ ? or doesent matter that much?

[uneven mason]

What talents are you running?

[lyric elm]

I got wrecked by this guy, I got stormslam stacks on me and, how does that happen and how do I avoid it https://i.imgur.com/yCD8b9x.png

idk never had an issue with him before, I just got killed instantly from 50% health

[plush tendon]

stacking debuff from stormslash

makes it do more damage

[lyric elm]

so I cant avoid it?

[plush tendon]

no; it has to be dispelled

[lyric elm]

Aha

Thanks

[plush tendon]

or you have to get a good spell sequence

you can probably survive between 3-4 stacks I think?

[lyric elm]

yes, I suppose I could kite him if stacks are about to go out

[plush tendon]

IDK, RLP is poop; im more worried about my friends dying or my healer getting double quacked right now on that fight

[lyric elm]

think I got 4 and died at 50%

[severe steeple]

RLP is truly a nightmare with poop players

[lyric elm]

all the DF dungeons are hard

[severe steeple]

esp healer

[plush tendon]

I mean, we barley timed a 11 RLP

then 3 chest a 12 Shadowmoon

[severe steeple]

ill take every DF dung over SL season 1 dungs

[plush tendon]

its a dungeon issue imo

[lyric elm]

SM is free yes

that will be 20d first

[plush tendon]

SM has some nasty pulls though

[deft vessel]

hm, sims recomending haste/mastery gems

[plush tendon]

but they dont feel unfair

[deft vessel]

I guess I Have pretty low mastery

[plush tendon]

like Ruby

[deft vessel]

I should probably get more mastery

[lyric elm]

im just picking the tankiest dps at this point

cuz the rest die from 100 to 0

[plush tendon]

Its like not worth thinking about stat weights while we still gearing

I would just go either Haste/Crit or Haste/Vers

[deft vessel]

fair, but I have essentially no mastery

[plush tendon]

thats fine

[deft vessel]

I suppose

[plush tendon]

suddenly youll get a bunch and be like, damn now I gotta recraft my thingy

[deft vessel]

hah, fair

it's only for gems

[regal blaze]

Is the Spell reflection tracker linked in the resources faq up to date for dragonflight season 1 m+?

[deft vessel]

I crafted the amulet with haste vers

[plush tendon]

Im thinking Haste/Crit for myself

so its good for DPS

[deft vessel]

I'm at 26% crit already (in battle stance)

[plush tendon]

until I actually turn on def stance, aint gonna worry bout vers

[uneven mason]

We can send crafting orders cross server right?

[sick sentinel]

@deft vessel are open for a crafting order?

[deft vessel]

oh i'm not a jeweler, that's from a crafting order xD

[wooden widget]

Is anyone using bolster?

[plush tendon]

no

[sick sentinel]

Share your jc fam

[grave crane]

I do lol use that shit on cooldown for long SB and just throw damage

[deft vessel]

made by Seyaad on Argent Dawn :3

err, I don't know if they're actually on Argent Dawn if the orders are cross server

[mellow quartz]

Crafting orders are server specific afaik

[deft vessel]

then yeah, Seyaad on Argent Dawn

[mellow quartz]

Similar to AH gear

[uneven mason]

Balls

[sick sentinel]

was it a shaman?

[deft vessel]

uhm I'm not sure

[wooden widget]

Bolster isn’t necessary yet or is the other talent just way better value?

[sick sentinel]

How much was the comission ? a kidney or two

[deft vessel]

10k

[sick sentinel]

pretty acessible

i only found one jc and he asked for 250k

[grave crane]

10 with you having the mats I assume

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-cash-money-counting-money-gif-17544086

[plush tendon]

You can use bolster; there is a build in the pins that works

[dusk loom]

Yeah but itf instead of Hr

[plush tendon]

but the more common build just has a easier time with SB uptime

[dusk loom]

As you already have enough uptime

[plush tendon]

but its totally viable if thats what you prefer

[dusk loom]

Itf feels pretty nice imo tho

[ionic roost]

having vers gear probably is less of a dps loss than d stance

[untold crescent]

hi guys, is what the best to make, a 405 weapon or the giga neck 405?

[sick sentinel]

Is there a reason why "top" warriors are not crafting high level shields?

[plush tendon]

first boss on Mythic drops a shield