Kills plants ASAP
#protection
strong forum
It's a pure dps check boss
Nothing else
If the adds dont die, you die, unless you have a poison dispel
Adds are absolute prio on that boss
solid glen
Yeah I figured. But like, the second plants grow ( and get activated) it's just an utter mess
icy lintel
Thanks Nom. Just feels impossible on every other cast when he gets the spawns off.
slim dove
you need to stack the plants
they spawn under players
dont have ranged dps off in the boonies
oblique garnet
dont have ranged dps off in the boonies
^
solid glen
Yeah that we figured
slim dove
oh and what i found helped
assign CD rotations
dont have all your dps blow everything on the first germinate
oblique garnet
The first wave of adds has a long time before they actually turn to dangerous ones
So you probably want to save cds for the 2nd wave
solid glen
Same really
icy lintel
It’s good to know I’m not missing anything though that’s all I needed.
solid glen
Thanks for the tips :)
strong forum
We killed the boss before 4th germinate so we were fine
Even with just being 5tank and nobody having drums
errant ivy
hey do you guys overlap thunderous roar with demo shout to maximise booming voice dmg?
errant ivy
thanks
craggy pilot
hmm, Embellish belt on my DK guildie doing 1.2% of his dps 🤔
lilac jay
do everything on pull with all your damage CDs
can u specify that?
mighty valley
throw ravager, charge + avatar, (maybe TC if you need snappier threat), demo shout, thunderous roar, shield charge, normal rotation from there
strong forum
On average itf will do 7% more
blazing condor
sorry didnt read thought it was about threat
lilac jay
throw ravager, charge + avatar, (maybe TC if you need snappier threat), demo sho...
thank you!
strong forum
Itf at 5 stacks is 7% more dmg than HR, but that's not counting nails difference
But only at 5 stacks
In my run I did 58k with ITF in AA 11 and 55k with HR in AA 11
Today
But my group also did alot more dmg in the 2nd run
So I couldn't yoink as much
Which is about exactly the 7% diff
17%
Okay well now it's 15.4% cuz I lost 200 haste
🤷♂️
Don't notice it
If you play battering ram you're always getting alot of SS resets
Turns out Having 45% uptime on +20% atk speed + 70% uptime on wildstrikes (another 20% attackspeed) is really good for SS resets
🙂
sick sentinel
Has our mplua build changed any since the nerfs and feel of mplus now?
strong forum
Na
I only changed from thunderlords to battering ram
Other than that I play the "basic m+ Build" from pins
Plays super nice
mighty valley
feels like i can almost rely on alternating tc - SS - tc - SS during avatar, insane levels of resets
sage granite
not using booming voice?
dim hull
Quick question, is slam useless for prot warriors?
strong forum
Yes
sick sentinel
Im still been playing with the one in pin havent changed anything been spamming 15 keys so its not bad
strong forum
It's not a bad build
But I seriously think battering ram is just better
Than TL
TL desyncs your CDs from Demo shout
You still get 2 demo shouts per pack even without TL
So it's w/e
But battering ram is WAAAAAAYY more dmg on bosses than TL
craggy pilot
do people kill or skip the Flamegullet Dragon in Ruby Life Pools?
craggy pilot
i tried skipping it 2 times, both times we ended up getting it on top of a pack
so i feel like its just safer to kill,, and skip something else?
sage granite
I've just been pulling it up to +10 so far but it's spicy
sage granite
But battering ram is WAAAAAAYY more dmg on bosses than TL
gonna try it out btw thanks
steep sparrow
The fire one didn't feel as bad as the storm one to me
oblique garnet
so i feel like its just safer to kill,, and skip something else?
If you have soothe you can kill it
If you dont youre likely going to die
craggy pilot
for the affix? or does it have its own enrage?
oblique garnet
For raging yes
craggy pilot
ye ok so on other weeks just chug it without soothe
craggy pilot
just about to head into +10 pools
sage granite
Noticed the top prot player using honed reflexes. I thought it was a bait talent
mighty valley
never take anything seriously from "the top prot player"
right now especially, it's just a measure of who's had the most time and has a strong group
strong forum
For the foreseeable future
mighty valley
a lot of really high IO prot warriors last season were running codex, which was objectively an awful trinket for us
strong forum
Don't look take it too seriously what a 1hit wonder is running
mighty valley
the talent is basically one second off've pummel, you can decide for yourself what point you'd want to drop for that
strong forum
In S1 SL, people who were dps mains played venthyr pwar with signet legendary
For their weekly keys
And got R1 that way
And people tried to make an argument that signet is really really good
And venthyr totally doesn't suck
Just because soem random /who got "high" rio with it
Take it with insane amounts of salt what you see on the leader boards
blazing condor
i'll only ever check on high rio pwarrs i know are good
sage granite
I'm not gonna dismiss what the top players are doing. I mean it clearly works for them and that doesn't mean it will work for everyone. It is early to draw conclusions sure.
blazing condor
aka sense
strong forum
Pwar works
tender cove
Can the person who cursed me with trinkets only loot please stop? Plz? I beg you 😦
strong forum
The tree is so good
blazing condor
Can the person who cursed me with trinkets only loot please stop? Plz? I beg you...
no 🙂
strong forum
That you can make very little mistakes
He's got 3/4 block talents, so he's set
GG you can tank high keys now
strong forum
Just because he's doing 17s doesn't mean that his build isn't whack
There are things he can optimise, but the class is strong enough to not get punished for a suboptimal build
It doesn't matter enough
pallid quiver
he's lost in the rating worship, nome, your words will never reach him
urban portal
Tanks have insane skill expression compared to dps
You can run an optimal setup and still can’t beat naowh playing venth prot
tender cove
There are things he can optimise, but the class is strong enough to not get puni...
i'm sure we could give you whatever build possible and you would still excel above average. Thats just being good at playing the game vs knowing everything about the class.
You just happen todo both xD
strong forum
Aww thx
Like his build is 98% correct and he won't be stopped because he's playing 4 questionable talents on prot tree
Is all im tryna say
warm plinth
@strong forum next you're going to tell me that codex was an ass trinket
inner rapids
Question: how is bear compared to prot? Deciding between prot pala and bear for alt
urban portal
Especially when major talents are already done
Not like you are giving much for honed reflex
strong forum
Bear is alright
urban portal
I think mwahi said he likes the kick cd
strong forum
Nothing relevating
warm plinth
We are one of the specs that people make out to be more difficult than it is. Especially now.
Lot of overthinking among newbies to this soec
Spec
warm plinth
Yep
inner rapids
Bear is alright 🥲 aight thx
strong forum
Especially if you play HR
I would have to see a god tier bear player
To get a more informed answer
tender cove
Like super easy
Guess im just really bad. Like really bad haha 😦
inner rapids
God bear
urban portal
I’m a top 50% bear player
Cuz I macro thrash to fur
It’s so bis
15s were no match for me
strong forum
Guess im just really bad. Like really bad haha 😦
It's all perspective
strong forum
Every tank is
inner rapids
But looking at preferences
strong forum
Reloe is already doing 19s on his brewmaster
steep sparrow
Ive been thinking since youre mentioning HR, ive got 35% haste w ITF /25% without is that too much?🤔
strong forum
Despite everybody screaming how bad brew is 🙂
strong forum
Ive been thinking since youre mentioning HR, ive got 35% haste w ITF /25% withou...
You can never have enough haste
patent hull
Is there another spark available next week?
inner rapids
My main gripe with bear is not seeing my armor 😭
strong forum
Every 2 weeks we get a spark
patent hull
ah
tender cove
Speaking of sparks, if i made shield last week. Should i wait for 3rd spark and see what's best?
strong forum
I could be wrong on the amount of weeks
patent hull
fuck it, I crafted the neck and the shield.
calm sapphire
First 5 are time-gated
strong forum
I'll craft weapon or neck this week depending on drops, 100% my first craft was shield
calm sapphire
So 10 weeks
strong forum
Aight
neon elk
Is shield actualy bigger upgrade than wepon? Or is it just because in fury spec we can get 1h but not shield ?
vernal vale
right now especially, it's just a measure of who's had the most time and has a s...
This tbh
fading tide
Is there an add on to show which mobs to kill and which to avoid?
calm sapphire
I just went and used one and crafted my weapon
steep sparrow
Hate Azure Vault? - Shield
Hate AA? Weapon
My logic for those lol
calm sapphire
Is there an add on to show which mobs to kill and which to avoid?
Mythic Dungeon Tools, and import a route code from a lot of websites.
calm sapphire
I'll recraft my weapon when I get the matrix
calm sapphire
And I used the 372 matrix for my shield
steep sparrow
Is it good? I remember reading that it was kinda eh so I didnt even bother
strong forum
As explained in pins
reef haven
is the Shield of the Hearth a bad craft instead of Unstable Frostfire Belt?
strong forum
All embellishments are hardly better than 1% upgrades
None of them do significant amounts of dmg or give significant stat gains
last pebble
should i take earth or fire for the primal ritual shell?
strong forum
Fire for dmg, earth for shield
vernal vale
All embellishments are hardly better than 1% upgrades
I'm sure people will stress about min maxing embellishments all expac
calm sapphire
None of them do significant amounts of dmg or give significant stat gains
Even Lariat?
last pebble
mmmm the shield is definitely nice but i want more damage but i feel like earth helps a lot with the higher keys
strong forum
That's 0.8-1%of stats overall
vernal vale
It's so dumb
It is super dumb. I look at lariat as mechagon rings in a single item is all
calm sapphire
That's 0.8-1%of stats overall
That 1 socket or 3?
strong forum
3
calm sapphire
huh, wow
fading tide
Mythic Dungeon Tools, and import a route code from a lot of websites.
I imported one from icy veins but it only shows 77%
calm sapphire
I imported one from icy veins but it only shows 77%
Is it Jade Temple?
vernal vale
Combing logs one damage dealing embellish to another they are so close it just doesn't matter
strong forum
None of the embellishments will make you skyrocket anything
fading tide
Yea jade
strong forum
They're minor things
calm sapphire
It's fine
Follow it, it does give the full percentage
I believe it doesn't count the upper floor in the library
sage granite
Nome have you always been running The Wall? I've pushed up to +11 and don't feel like I've needed to turn that talent on yet
vernal vale
They're minor things
Hence why I armor spiked shield first spark and I'll lariat second most likely
strong forum
Nome have you always been running The Wall? I've pushed up to +11 and don't feel...
Yes, it's very good rage gen
fading tide
Oh damn this mythic tool is awesome
patent osprey
I actually prefer the other talent than wall in m+
The 2 shield walls have been alot better for some of these keys than the wall
vernal vale
I actually prefer the other talent than wall in m+
Teo charges with AM is very solid
strong forum
Generally, defender aegis edges out where you need SW within 30 second intervals frequently
For specific things
tender cove
is challenging shout still an pulsing aoe taunt every second? Meaning you can pop it outside 14 yards and once you go inside, it still taunts?
patent osprey
Cause u dont need wall every pull, but u do need it sometimes for bosses like 3rd boss jade or every fking pull around 3rd boss jade
patent osprey
Ive been forced to play a defensive build now on 17+
strong forum
No doubt about it
patent osprey
T_T sad days
fading tide
You drop enduring alacrity for impenetrable wall?
fading tide
Seems like a nice talent
last pebble
do you think for higher keys immobavle objext is better than unstoppable force?
strong forum
But I doubt you'll reach keys where it'll be "mandatory"
Before that your dps will have died 40 times over
mellow quartz
raging nokhud is fun man
toxic geyser
Would be better in raid probably hey?
strong forum
Nah, raid is way more forging than high keys for tanks
But technically speaking
IO is super OP vs predictable dmg
Like disgustingly OP
calm sapphire
Raids are generally higher in raid damage and DPS requirements
toxic geyser
I’m thinking for razageth
calm sapphire
Any tankbuster
mellow quartz
raid is very scripted so you know what to do when
last pebble
Any tankbuster
gotcha
calm sapphire
Anything high damage that is telegraphed/timed
toxic geyser
When is instigate better than blood rage? Is it with ITF? I’m finishing keys with 700 dev hits vs 1.3k rage from BR
strong forum
Raid
cinder nova
ngl I feel like if I had a pretend banner aura that made me think I was still keeping it up through dungeons I'd play better
toxic geyser
Stay with HR even then?
craggy pilot
Lariat is on average 140 stats extra
this sounds omega small for some reason
Wrist is 188 stats extra perm 🤔
toxic geyser
Blood rage there but the acronym is personably scuffed by me
strong forum
You got 2 embellishments for a reason
craggy pilot
You got 2 embellishments for a reason
but wep and shield
ionic roost
so what 3 are bis
slim dove
they aren't meant to be giga important
craggy pilot
but i guess people go Wrist + Lariat + Weapon without embellish?
strong forum
but wep and shield
Don't need to embellish them?
craggy pilot
Don't need to embellish them?
yea what i thought 😄
gonna take a while to get all of them though
4 sparks for Neck + Wrist + Shield + Wep
ionic roost
they aren't meant to be giga important
Idk it's like saying 3 enchants/gems aren't important, like sure they're not, but they add up in the pile of minor gains
strong forum
It do be like that
strong forum
4 sparks for Neck + Wrist + Shield + Wep
Or ykno
Get a 421 weapon/shield from vault
Cuz crafted only goes to 418
toxic geyser
No but I did think of it before I posted
craggy pilot
Get a 421 weapon/shield from vault
my luck doesnt work that way
slim dove
Idk it's like saying 3 enchants/gems aren't important, like sure they're not, bu...
yes, theyre all very minor gains that add up
but theyre all 1%ish
craggy pilot
i will 100% craft Wrist or some shit, and then insta gain a Wrist the week after 🤣
toxic geyser
20% with like 40% uptime isn’t insignificant but didn’t think it would beat it
cinder nova
IO is super OP vs predictable dmg
What the fuck is this new language. EA? IO?
toxic geyser
Blood is tieing with TC for rage
strong forum
toxic geyser
What the fuck is this new language. EA? IO?
Immovable object
ionic roost
What the fuck is this new language. EA? IO?
Immovable object, the shield wall charges
toxic geyser
It’s shield wall in avatar and vice versa no?
steep sparrow
Is there a "confirmed" site for routes for MDT? Or any works
toxic geyser
Wish they’d fix brutal vitality
ionic roost
It’s shield wall in avatar and vice versa no?
Oh maybe I'm misthinkin
You are correct
There's not much that'd monch a tank in keys atm unless you get pretty high
Even still
You're limited by group stops/dps living stuff
slim dove
second i stepped into court it was like i was transported back to legion
then i saw how cucked it is compared to back then and got sad
vast osprey
What’s the most optimal use of CDs for dps? Is a revenge better then a shield slam or thunder clap?
urban portal
Optimal use is cds on cd
ionic roost
then i saw how cucked it is compared to back then and got sad
I mean being able to shave 4-5 minutes off your key time by rng if the blacksmithing trap spawns is pretty bad
vast osprey
Is a shield slam proc more dps then dumping rage on revenge
edgy grail
How exactly do you get the 2nd spark this week?
slim dove
I mean being able to shave 4-5 minutes off your key time by rng if the blacksmit...
cucked
give me the rng
court was a burner key anyways
calm sapphire
I mean being able to shave 4-5 minutes off your key time by rng if the blacksmit...
Does it not always spawn?
edgy bone
Can anyone explain why these are so good for prot warrior?
calm sapphire
They do good dps
toxic pewter
watching a streamer use codex on their tank in real time
jagged pier
toxic pewter
Crazy that trinket won’t die lolol
slim dove
the shell does pretty gud dps
ionic roost
Does it not always spawn?
I have done 5 courts so far on my blacksmith, 0 traps
calm sapphire
It gives either Damage, Healing, or Secondary stats
calm sapphire
I have done 5 courts so far on my blacksmith, 0 traps
My first try had a BS one
But I didn't know it also insta-killed the miniboss if it gets close enough
Yeah, check your damage dealt as well
Since the damage proc doesn't show as a buff
slim dove
its 1ppm
ionic roost
But I didn't know it also insta-killed the miniboss if it gets close enough
Yea you could kill 2 minibosses on it in legion
Saved gigga time
That's why they changed it
slim dove
zzz
calm sapphire
They changed it to 1
slim dove
makes court boring
either you get the god run with perfect buffs or you get fucked on and burn the key 
calm sapphire
Also love how I can have a party struggle on a +6 then my next go with a +8 is smooth as butter
Check bloodmallet maybe?
oak echo
It's almost like m+ isn't solo content lol
heavy temple
How does lariat actually work? What is an elemental gem? Just my usual vers haste gem via ysemerald
compact jackal
earth/fire/air/water or whatever
calm sapphire
welp
compact jackal
I feel Fire->Frost is easier than Frost->Fire on Kurog tbh
Since Fire is the only one that can get an oof tank swap
loud patrol
doing more healing than the healer
sweet summit
compact jackal
Frost->Fire you can have the tank swap happen during the circles which sucks hard, but Fire->Frost it's after
heavy temple
Is it possible to remove and embilishment from an item?
or is my crafted shield with armor spikes wasted if I want wrist + lariat e.g.
loud patrol
tho now i notice treemouth spliter is not that good
hasty field
hi
what % of overall dmg should be revenge on average?
heavy temple
and right click the embellish
cant recraft it
NVM
i had to repair it lol
but it doesnt let me rightclick it
it wont remove the embelishment
next jay
does anyone know what the max ignore pain stack is based off? % hp?
loud patrol
i have a bad habit to prio IP instead of SB
next jay
i can stack up to around 98k right now, 30 ish per use
sweet summit
does anyone know what the max ignore pain stack is based off? % hp?
30% max hp
next jay
thank you!
sleek current
So, just checking in. No new pins... But, are we still feeling elemental lariet?
sleek current
pin is still relevant
Cheers. 😄
sweet summit
that's all you need np
loud patrol
lmao
slim dove
buddy told me hes gold capped every char on that server
sleek current
I'd rather stab myself in the foot than pay 500k for anything.
loud patrol
charging 500k comm and he literally hasn't stopped making them
tbh im starting to understand that recipe seems is like 0.5% drop
loud patrol
ever
sweet summit
until they add more op embellishments for season 2 (:
loud patrol
slim dove
blizzard hasn't thrown us a curveball yet this expac
sweet summit
is lariat recipe BoE
loud patrol
ye its boe
sweet summit
epic
loud patrol
low drop rate
sleek current
I'm a BS and maxed out in Large Plate Armor and Chest and still can't craft with a missive and embellishment at 5 star reliably. I don't get it.
loud patrol
I'm a BS and maxed out in Large Plate Armor and Chest and still can't craft with...
are you specialized to use missives?
sweet summit
then inspirarion proc value
sweet summit
should guaratee r5 with inspiration proc that way
sleek current
Yeah with inspiration for sure, not sure I fancy burning a tonne of alloy though until I get it. Haha
loud patrol
check the post that blizzard put about quality
sweet summit
don't think anyone can guarantee r5 without proc atm
sleek current
Ah, alright then
sweet summit
took me 2 recrafts so not too bad
compact jackal
don't think anyone can guarantee r5 without proc atm
I can on the shield
sleek current
I'll give it another whirl with some quenching fluid
deft hazel
how
deft hazel
i got r5 with inspiration proc
compact jackal
What's wrong crafter-kun, are you jealous of my skill?
sleek current
What accessories do you have?
craggy pilot
also didnt even put Illustrious Insight 🙂
compact jackal
and look at the bottom right
craggy pilot
which is +30 skill
sleek current
Yeah
compact jackal
it gives a massive buff to inspiration AND the proc bonus
sweet summit
also didnt even put Illustrious Insight 🙂
true
sleek current
It looks like Hammer Control is the GOAT.
barren socket
can we proc the fire damage shield rare ring?
proper wolf
what embelleshment should prot warrior get for spark gear?
craggy pilot
It looks like Hammer Control is the GOAT.
it is
proper wolf
anyone know?
sleek current
That's what I'm maxing next.
craggy pilot
but you still need like 120 points to max out 1 item
craggy pilot
maxing out shield is like this... 120 knowledge points
sweet summit
can we proc the fire damage shield rare ring?
not with base kit
we can with trinket(s) and/or tinkers
sick sentinel
After the Brutal Vitality nerf is Fueled by Violence worth it if you're taking other bleed buffing talents?
sleek current
Yeah, I've got the top picture in chest though. I just need the hammer control.
sweet summit
After the Brutal Vitality nerf is Fueled by Violence worth it if you're taking o...
pins
sleek current
I'm going to cane that.
craggy pilot
Yeah, I've got the top picture in chest though. I just need the hammer control.
chest is kinda sadge though, as it might be Tier piece 🤔
sweet summit
yeah i don't really see the point in crafting chest
sleek current
I picked chest because I want to finish the mog. It doesn't matter which order I make it in, I suppose it would've been smarter to pick shield first.
sweet summit
kinda based
timber nest
how do you stop the exhumers in shadowmoon from spawning spirits?
sleek current
You can't.
timber nest
they used to be in WoD
sweet summit
yea
timber nest
a lot has changed 😦
sweet summit
they changed a lot
sick sentinel
everything one shots dps lol
sleek current
Yeah, you just can't. They're not that bad though. Don't double pull them because you're going to end up with a dead party as the casts go haywire for a couple of seconds while you grab aggro.
sweet summit
in the old dungeons
craggy pilot
the ruby life pools last boss is crazy
sick sentinel
so are the drakes and channelers
craggy pilot
true the dragons are the worst
sick sentinel
basically this place wants to have aggressive intercourse with your healer
craggy pilot
basically this place wants to have aggressive intercourse with your healer
lul
ill let them know
sleek current
I like Ruby Life Pools. 😦
Except surprise red dragon. Can't forget about red dragon.
sick sentinel
dragons you can deal with the mechanic
tempest channler on the other hand
cant stun cant interrupt
60yard aoe
sleek current
Aye, bonkers.
sick sentinel
not sure if you can los
sleek current
Surely LOS works
sick sentinel
if at 12ish level its already doing this much damage idk if its possible to do at 20
sleek current
I was in a +4 earlier never thought to try.
sleek current
If it does, then it's easy to deal with
sick sentinel
maxing out shield is like this... 120 knowledge points
TFW i have just 1 node thats close to full
sleek current
Where would you even LOS it on the bridge is my question.
sick sentinel
i really need to pump up the knowledge
sleek current
Or do you mean High Channeler?
sick sentinel
they have have the same cast
high channeler and tempest channler
fire channler is not as bad
junior hemlock
Being ilevel 370, about what level key should i be reasonably ok to do?
sleek current
MDT is missing them for some reason
sleek current
Isn't it called "Tempest" when they cast it though
sick sentinel
i think so
yea idk
but its the channel cast
that shit hurst like a mfker
3 rogue mandatory at high level lul
sleek current
Yeah, I suppose I'll see. I got a +7 done earlier and we +3'd that. Keen to get stuck in. In EU and was raiding today so not had a chance to do any serious keys yet.
sweet summit
dang
sleek current
I'd say she starts casting it about 7 seconds into the pull.
Actually 15 feels right
We might see some tuning done. Still early doors init.
sick sentinel
also the fire drake will be a lust at higher key 100%
it has a ramping 60yard aoe below 50% healther
sleek current
Yeah, the storm drake makes up for missing that with the insane breath. At least it's dodgable. 😂
mellow quartz
you just skip the fire drake
slim dove
yeah i dont pull fire
sleek current
Surprise Fire Drake. How do you avoid him? By going back on yourself. He jumps down on you at a certain point.
sick sentinel
wait you can skip that shit?
duuuuuuuuuuuude
what
oh
i guess that makes sense
holy shit
ty
warm plinth
My feedback is that the shit is still lagging 😂
sick sentinel
not the storm side
junior hemlock
Waking shores was lagging today for me. Prob the primal farms.
loud patrol
tbh is not that laggy anymore
craggy pilot
holy shit +10 pools is not for fun
novel temple
Hey I just thought of something
Since it’s more of a stats thing and we know our stat prio but we don’t theorycraft it to like old style breakpoints and everything
craggy pilot
is there ever a reason to killall the small Fire guys on the 2nd floor of Pools?
sleek current
is there ever a reason to killall the small Fire guys on the 2nd floor of Pools?
Only because they're annoying and get in the way
open gazelle
Only issues in keys for me so far are ruby life pools last boss and pretty much most of NO sucks, haven’t done shadowmoon burial ground yet and I think halls of valor is the easiest
novel temple
Wouldn’t we actually wanna prio crit over vers? At least while talented into wild strikes and until we have enough crit to crit with autos reliably within that 10 second buff duration?
sleek current
Only issues in keys for me so far are ruby life pools last boss and pretty much ...
Last Boss in pools isn't that difficult. Stack left and focus dragon first. (Melee should attack storm dude if dragon isn't available because it's doing dragon things)
open gazelle
Last Boss in pools isn't that difficult. Stack left and focus dragon first. (Mel...
Easy for me but lots of aoe damage for my group
warm plinth
For your viewing pleasure: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/how-to-prevent-tanks-running-at-mach-6-through-dungeons/1447058/61
novel temple
For your viewing pleasure: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/how-to-preven...
Can we pin this for comedic effect?
sleek current
Making it harder won't stop me from going mach 6. Why do you think I play a Warrior? 😂
torn gulch
it seems armor spikes in so so about 1% damage
craggy pilot
do people kill the stone guy patrol in First Room of Pools? 🤔
open gazelle
I pull him yes
sleek current
I do, he's too easy to accidentally pull anyway.
novel temple
And dungeons can be hard
torn gulch
it's part of the first pull
novel temple
They’re literally scalable
torn gulch
3 packs together
craggy pilot
3 packs together
im talking this guy
if you pull him in first pull youre insane 😄
or youre doing skip
either
torn gulch
oh the patrolling one?
sleek current
I believe he's talking about the second one
craggy pilot
trying to teach pugs to do the wall hug to avoid whelps is kinda trolling though it seems
sleek current
Many Whelps left side!
warm plinth
how to do wall hug: you see that wall? Walk along that wall and don't go in the circles
craggy pilot
i feel im getting way too much count though if i include the Dragon + the Stone Patrol
then im at 110% 😄
sleek current
That first pull feels like a lust. There is 3 casters in there that cast Ice Shield. Lol
craggy pilot
whoch dragon
Flamegullet
torn gulch
insta skip
craggy pilot
seems hard to skip for pugs
got Flamegullet many times on top of packs cus he just random lands
torn gulch
well yeah you basically have to traverse as a team immediately after he goes away then pull the next pack to the side
so you don't pull flamegullet
people manage to catch aggro from him
torn gulch
basically
craggy pilot
they stand where he lands, and boom dead
so its probably safer to just kill him
even though nasty
torn gulch
fort flamegullet is fucked
craggy pilot
but if someone can show me how they do % on the lower part of Pools, id be happy
cus i clear the entire last boss platform as well
craggy pilot
where do you find that?
craggy pilot
cant find it so ye
craggy pilot
thx
hmm, also skipping Flamegullet
need to figure out the tech to skip him then i guess
torn gulch
basically pass as a team as soon as he leaves then take the next pack and go to the side
craggy pilot
to the outer edge i guess?
torn gulch
yes
there is a spot
towards the nursery pool to the outer edge
G13 take it up the small stairs
cinder nova
Is omen not working?
pallid quiver
that
doesn't affect what stats you drop
You'd lose the ability to drop shields and tank trinkets, and get the ability to get DPS trinkets and 2Hs
sage lava
anyone on NA make the Embellished rank 5 infurious helm of vengeance
cinder nova
Tank trinkets are almost unanimously memes
Unless they make some really early bangers
cinder nova
Only good actual tank trinkets you could count on one hand in SL.
I doubt they'll change their tune here.
chrome falcon
god dammit someone tell sense to stop fucking squeaking he's making me freak out when i see he has 30 more CPM than me
dude outdps'd me by 12k on kurog
and i'm just not seeing where all that damage comes from
warm plinth
what you wanna do is press your buttons
sleek current
A lot
warm plinth
and then summon the almighty power of Sense
chrome falcon
right
but like
he did 2.1 million damage with SS in 81 casts
i did 1.6 million in 78 casts
sleek current
Maybe you were not bracing for impact. 😄
chrome falcon
essentially identical talent builds
he had 1% more crit than me
oh no
he was running ITF
idk if that makes THAT much difference though
sleek current
Were you keeping Brace for Impact up though? What's the uptime on it?
chrome falcon
what
warm plinth
if he wasn't then I'm pretty sure he's just not pressing his buttons because it lasts like 16 seconds
chrome falcon
brace for impact uptime is like
yeah
what
if you're not keeping up brace for impact
you're tabbed out
warm plinth
You'd have to go out of your way to not keep it up realistically
sleek current
It's easy to keep up but, I have no idea who mattacate is... The amount of Prot Warriors I see that don't even use IP is staggering.
warm plinth
ITF is definitely more damage than HR but it wouldn't explain the difference in the SS damage obviously
jaunty aurora
is it still possible to get the titan matrix for 409 crafts
chrome falcon
ok honestly
looking at it now
it might just be a gear diff
he has 7k strength i have 6k
(he obviously played better i just didn't realise i was so behind him on ilvl)
mighty valley
remember when people weren't convinced that a 24% str buff from banner was really worth it
chrome falcon
Harrow i'm telling you
rugged root
I just had the worst +7 court run
chrome falcon
for a very long time
people didn't realise the strength buff also extended with glory
lone folio
Hey, how many stacks are you guys taunting at on Dathea? Wowhead says 2, but I feel it wasn't enough for my stacks to fall off, had to hold it till 5.
sleek current
I don't vibe court at all.
chrome falcon
i had to tell the stormforged in here that it did
in 9.1
when i was on my pro-banner crusade
rugged root
I don't vibe court at all.
i felt so bad it was a guild run lmao
rugged root
i never played legioon
chrome falcon
is ninja pull city
mighty valley
man, i think everyone got so hung up on "buff my TEAM? no WAY this is good"
chrome falcon
yeah if you never played it's weird
mighty valley
court has near-invisible instakill vfx, dense patrol mobs, goofy LoS mechanics, and a million things randos can click on to ruin the run
sleek current
i felt so bad it was a guild run lmao
Try this route: https://wago.io/QFKWFQBKR - It was designed with Pug Friendliness in mind. So, should limit how bad things can go. 😄
mighty valley
but once you've got all that down, it's really fine
shut flare
is the rotation of prot warrior noob friendly?
shut flare
thank you
quaint sage
what three buttons
mighty valley
once you know what you're supposed to do, it's very easy. but it must not be very intuitive because most people don't do it right
sleek current
I wouldn't say it's 3 buttons. To play effectively you're pressing way more than that.
mighty valley
the core GCD rotation is three buttons, yeah
chrome falcon
is 3 buttons
mighty valley
(plus execute sometimes depending on tuning)
rugged root
I wouldn't say it's 3 buttons. To play effectively you're pressing way more than...
skip the bridge? thats possible?
sleek current
Yeah, you go down the stairs at the bottom of that picture and come back up.
chrome falcon
it's fewer buttons than BDK or paladin have to do in their core rotation
rugged root
okay
shut flare
it's fewer buttons than BDK or paladin have to do in their core rotation
as compared to bear? sorry newbie here
chrome falcon
bear is the most braindead tank of all time
so if you're struggling with that
you probably just need some practice
sleek current
okay
I've found that if you go across the bridge 85% chance a pug is going to pull the two mobs on the left.
edgy venture
Anybody have current Spell Reflect spreadsheet?
chrome falcon
but i would say prot is similarily quite easy
mighty valley
Anybody have current Spell Reflect spreadsheet?
pins, scroll down
edgy venture
Thanks
warm plinth
but i would say prot is similarily quite easy
says the guy who can't even keep up with Sense smh
craggy pilot
pog
sleek current
Mate... I can tell you now. I'll be farming that trinket all season. I've just had the worst luck with trinkets so far.
craggy pilot
had ruby life pools 3 times so far 😄
so guess thats my luck for doing that shit dungeon
rugged root
I've found that if you go across the bridge 85% chance a pug is going to pull th...
how do i get to the guard posts safely to destroy them
craggy pilot
my key is literally just pingpong from Pools to Halls back to Pools back to Halls
quaint sage
anyone hear if BV has been fixed?
sleek current
how do i get to the guard posts safely to destroy them
You can just walk up and press them. The mobs look like they're in the way in MDT but, they're miles away.
rugged root
oh ok
quaint sage
sads
reef haven
are we just doing insane amounts of damage or did I just have bad dps two times in a row? was second in damage in both dungeons I did
warm plinth
Depends on how much damage you did
latent cargo
Im sure this question has been asked a thousand timed but ive been working lol. Is everybody just crafting Elemental Lariat this week?
warm plinth
But probably the latter
sleek current
Good DPS will clap you.
quaint sage
i feel like im monitoring Seeing Red too much to get the most out of Violent outburst with a juiced up thunder clap on aoe
chrome falcon
an outburst'd TC is only somewhat better than an outburst'd SS
so don't stress it too much if you're still figuring other stuff out
warm plinth
you're an outbursted ss
quaint sage
thanks
chrome falcon
an outburst'd TC is only somewhat better than an outburst'd SS
and even that is only true on high target counts
sleek current
i feel like im monitoring Seeing Red too much to get the most out of Violent ou...
I straight up ignore it. I can't be arsed. It'll be whatever I press when it's available.
chrome falcon
you're an outbursted ss
owo
quaint sage
thats the spirit!
chrome falcon
if you want to monitor seeing red
reef haven
I just pay attention for single target
chrome falcon
you should do it to ensure you use it on SS for ST
yeah exactly
using outburst SS on aoe? fine
using outburst TC on single target?
weeping real tears
sick sentinel
idk what am i gonna do without these
pallid quiver
outburst TC instead of outburst SS in single target is like turning TC back to wet noodle damage in comparison
it feels so bad
pallid quiver
and even that is only true on high target counts
And I think it's at like 4 targets outburst Avatar TC hits harder, maybe 3, with UF in play now
i remember we had this discussion in here at some point
cinder nova
How does one even farm the turtle shell
open gazelle
Is primal turtle shell just a drop from random rares? I have a 372 one but wondering how I’d be able to farm a higher item level one as I gear up
slender wedge
One lock friend trying to create macro to auto use lock stone on me if not aura_env.button then
local r = aura_env.region
aura_env.button = CreateFrame("Button", "ConsumeButton", r, "SecureActionButtonTemplate")
end
aura_env.button:SetAllPoints()
aura_env.button:RegisterForClicks("LeftButtonDown", "LeftButtonUp")
aura_env.button:SetAttribute("type", "spell")
aura_env.button:SetAttribute("spell", 20707, party1)
how to make that this code cast on party 1
sry for flood
slim dove
Is primal turtle shell just a drop from random rares? I have a 372 one but wonde...
yeah it comes from most of the super rares.
vernal vale
How does one even farm the turtle shell
kill rares every day
cinder nova
One lock friend trying to create macro to auto use lock stone on me if not aura_...
A question for the weakaura discord.
This is Skyhold, mate.
sick sentinel
pretty sure the common strategy on overgrown ancient is to kill all the little adds while they are burrowed underground
cuz, every pull i did on that, they'd spawn, eventually get up and walk at group and overwhelm
tender cove
my key is literally just pingpong from Pools to Halls back to Pools back to Hall...
had a good day overall?
craggy pilot
had a good day overall?
yes, got 10 keys done, with only being on half the day 😄
tender cove
yes, got 10 keys done, with only being on half the day 😄
pretty good and the fat trinket to show for it too 😛
sick sentinel
i bailed on that group, we wiped like, 4 or 5 times on that boss
craggy pilot
got 4 pieces M+ loot 🙂
tender cove
got 4 pieces M+ loot 🙂
im jealous. Done like 15 runs today. Gotten blazebinder i already had and feet. 😦
tender cove
I spent half the day running with new guild and lets just say, having 345 dps didn't make things go smooth... pugs have been a bit better but highest is 10
and still dont really understand the affix xD
craggy pilot
nice nice
i did +10 Halls untimed, halls is confusing as fk to go into fresh 😄
but i think i got there eventually
craggy pilot
and still dont really understand the affix xD
whats confusing about it?
slim dove
i did +10 Halls untimed, halls is confusing as fk to go into fresh 😄
go left, lust hyjira or whatever her name is
craggy pilot
im still looking for a proper WA for it though
tender cove
whats confusing about it?
I dont really get when you need to clear or not, the wa just says clear with a timer on it and sometimes it marks with 2 skulls or w/e but still stunned both of us
craggy pilot
go left, lust hyjira or whatever her name is
ye its more about what to pull/skip and where you can actually run without pulling mobs
tender cove
so bit confusing
craggy pilot
but ill get there with more pulls
slim dove
ye its more about what to pull/skip and where you can actually run without pulli...
can basically pull minimal
you gotta backstep alot
to avoid damage from trash
craggy pilot
can basically pull minimal
yea i know that part, but that leaves a lot of pats that are easily butt pulled
i did so myself a few times 😄
craggy pilot
I dont really get when you need to clear or not, the wa just says clear with a t...
you will always get 2+3 of +/-
4 people will touch each other, and the last will just time out
slim dove
yea i know that part, but that leaves a lot of pats that are easily butt pulled
yeah gotta be gud not to sidestep into trash
its very easy to go over % in halls
craggy pilot
and i had no idea how the beer worked, so it just despawned in my hands 😄
and also the animals in the other zone
tried to pull bulls, but seems kinda hard to make pugs not pull the dragon
especially with Quaking 😄
sand plover
at what point does fueled by violence become better then brutal vitality?
or do you just always use brutal in m+ instead
craggy pilot
yeah dont pug halls
i pug everything though
slim dove
stop pugging
craggy pilot
i solo all content from now on, kthx
tender cove
4 people will touch each other, and the last will just time out
but why did we get stunned if we both touched?
craggy pilot
the 1 guy i used to premade with, swapped from Unh to Blood, and wont do anything other than tank 🤷♂️
so guess im solo this expac
fallen gazelle
but why did we get stunned if we both touched?
if you both have the same debuff then you don't clear
craggy pilot
but why did we get stunned if we both touched?
you have to touch White -> Black
tender cove
i pug everything though
gotta make friends with people you like. I've had 3 healers add me today asking for more runs 😄
mighty valley
it's anduin mechanic
hybrid peak
I would clear everything in the actual halls bit and get the last % to reach 83% for the final room up top
craggy pilot
gotta make friends with people you like. I've had 3 healers add me today asking ...
ye i added a few people today as well, but i feel i would still call them "pugs"
limpid pawn
anyone high level miner/bs?
craggy pilot
yes
tender cove
it's anduin mechanic
ahh, okok 😄
limber python
how did i die on council
deep isle
Will they nerf prot again? My buddy is asking me what my back up is caus he's saying they're going to keep getting nerfs. Not trying to meme just don't wanna hold my group back
limber python
i ignored pain so hard it killed me without me knowing
limber python
my dad works with ion and ion says prot is ok
warm plinth
We're not giga broken or anything but I suppose they could
deep isle
Ok, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks y'all
warm plinth
@strong forum https://twitter.com/liquidguild/status/1603125794821197824?s=46&t=SNgfsiNdvQDxMfWOmxF0ow look how sleeper ppal is man
craggy pilot
Will they nerf prot again? My buddy is asking me what my back up is caus he's sa...
what do you do when they keep nerfing spec? keep playing spec
easy solution
playing warrior is never trolling
tender cove
<@192743144276623360> https://twitter.com/liquidguild/status/1603125794821197824...
prot pally feels pretty great to play tbh.
craggy pilot
if you think you are "holding your group back" it is not because of your class tbh
tender cove
well, nothing really changed from sl to now but it still feels pretty good to play. Always liked it.
last pebble
any advice on dealing with the last pack of temple? I was getting hit with 150k claws
edgy grail
are people still playing BV with the bug? Or do I play FBV?
fading tide
Bros as a first time tanking mythic plus I think the hardest part is getting to 100%. Last 2 dungeons ended at 97%and 98% after last boss death
edgy grail
import some routes
craggy pilot
Bros as a first time tanking mythic plus I think the hardest part is getting to ...
just go back a bit and kill a bit more, or find a route and learn it
what i usually do is when im learning a route, i screenshot it and put it in Paint on my 2nd monitor, so i can glance over and check what to pull next
when in doubt
craggy pilot
are people still playing BV with the bug? Or do I play FBV?
im personally still running BV, its such a low impact talent anyway, and i dont really wanna keep checking up with "is it fixed?, oh so i have to swap back now"
it will just be fixed when it is fixed
its rly just a talent we take to get to Tough as Nails
warm plinth
are people still playing BV with the bug? Or do I play FBV?
I'm sure people are. In the end I don't think it matters significantly one way or the other until BrV is fixed.
The difference is negligible
edgy grail
what about battering ram vs Champion's Bulwark
fading tide
Damn when I played Ret last season I just followed the tank and face smashed the keyboard now I need a second monitor lol
warm plinth
I think you only run Battering Ram for ST
craggy pilot
what about battering ram vs Champion's Bulwark
Champions Bulwark for SB uptime, Battering Ram for ST dps
craggy pilot
Damn when I played Ret last season I just followed the tank and face smashed the...
thats the tank life brother
all dungeon tech is on the tank to know unfortunately
tank plans the route usually 😦
neon elk
Press W and pray
fading tide
I guess it will all come to me still on week one
warm plinth
Damn when I played Ret last season I just followed the tank and face smashed the...
My play is like this when I'm learning a new dungeon. I make the route in MDT to get to 100% and I make a mental note of any packs that are off the beaten path (meaning I have to deviate from "pressing W" to pull it). Generally there's not a huge number of packs that require that, so it's easy to keep track of. And other than those packs, I can just go straight through until the point I'm doing skips.
And then as you learn what stuff is skippable and is worth skipping, your route will naturally evolve
fading tide
I just did nokhud where the mobs seem to be all over the place
tender cove
for now you can just W and smash
I dont recommend doing this in azure vault, if you pull around the whelps, you really have nothing to pull, except the whelps with their packs and its a shitshow.
fading tide
And that last pack b4 the 2 big guys is nightmare mode
tender cove
or you have to run like really far to get to the next pack, jump down etc, takes lon gtime
warm plinth
Yeah open dungeons like that tend to require a bit more forethought but generally it'll just be like okay I go to this boss area and I need to kill this many packs around this boss
rugged root
for the missive for the lariat if i run fury ever so often should i do haste/mastery or stick with haste/verse
warm plinth
You could just do haste/crit
Gives you two of our best stats and their middle two stats I think
warm plinth
You'd have to recraft it I think but yeah you can change it later
rugged root
how do i make sure someone crafts it 392 as a public order?
limpid pawn
what path are y ou guys going for mining?
tender cove
How do you measure strength vs 2nd stats on trinkets?
warm plinth
Sim them
tender cove
For dps that seems to always favour the strenght ones but from a defensive pov?
Feels like 450/450 haste/versa is a lot now when so undergeared?
neon elk
what path are y ou guys going for mining?
Probably not best , but i went for mining from mount and then whatever that gives most perception
warm plinth
For dps that seems to always favour the strenght ones but from a defensive pov?
...
It's possible that defensively the secondaries might outweigh the primary, since strength has no effect on blocking. But that being said, trinkets are literally never going to be the reason you live or die beyond like...a shield one or something like that used to soak a mechanic (which if you need those, you're probably playing wrong to begin with). The stats aren't going to be the gamechanger though.
tender cove
It's possible that defensively the secondaries might outweigh the primary, since...
Fair enough 🙂
mint pike
you guys ever see spider boss refresh web shot on the off tank even with current tank in melee with aggro?
fair oxide
you guys ever see spider boss refresh web shot on the off tank even with current...
Absolutely.
rugged root
damn 100k for this damn neck
fair oxide
We were seeing it a lot tonight.
rain kestrel
BV still bugged ?
mint pike
ok glad im not missing something
limpid pawn
serious question - how do you level up blacksmithing when you're stuck at like 60-70
mint pike
any counter play for it?
limpid pawn
you can't craft anything at a really high level so most people jsut go to people who already have max rank
and with spark of ingenuity being so limited, nobody wants to waste it on a lowbie blacksmith
is it just me or does this seem like a really failed system where the people who max it out really early get all the business and everyone else is left nothing pretty much?
fair oxide
any counter play for it?
Honestly, we couldn't figure it out tonight.
We were taunt swapping at like.. 2 stacks and it was still popping off.
sick sentinel
i was under impression that season 1 dungeons were going to be based around mostly or entirely comprised of the df dungeons, so that we all learned them
didnt play legion at all, so gunna be failing alot in the legion dungeons.
fading tide
Going from tanking nokud to academy is like night and day lol
sick sentinel
that and i had to bail on a group earlier tonight for academy dungeon tree boss, nobody was killing adds fast enough theyd awaken and we die, group said its interupts (boss or elite tree ad?) , dungeon journal mentions killing non elites
last pebble
ye same issue here
sick sentinel
i saw comments you stack the entire team 1 location and then all adds land there to be cleaved
sick sentinel
this was just on a zero
last pebble
oh lol
sick sentinel
i think they were attempting to just lust snd burn boss and ignore adds
but it sure wasnt working
rugged root
should i put multiple gems into the neck?
warm plinth
Yes, you should
sick sentinel
i dont quite understand how i got one guyed by soke random m0 boss bjt ill attempt that again tomorrow
warm plinth
i dont quite understand how i got one guyed by soke random m0 boss bjt ill atte...
Are you referring to overgrown ancient?
warm plinth
So if your damage isn't high enough, that fight will start to truck the tank very quickly because you're going to have max stacks of the poison, the bleed from the big add spawning, and the tankbuster which gives you a physical damage taken debuff
The appropriate strategy is to stack loosely (ideally moving roughly together to keep the add spawns in a small space). The first set of adds should be able to be easily killed before they activate. The second set will always activate right away.
And then the big add needs to be kicked every 10 seconds to stop his heal, and the group needs to be close to him when he dies to remove the bleed
grim grotto
ya. for our group the debuf cleanse mechanic solved our issue. we didnt know that :> , after we purge the debuff every add, its easy healable and killable
small coral
man we gonna get nerfed again ain’t we
warm plinth
Eh, it's possible but I wouldn't say it's certain.
small coral
Naowh sure is trying to make it happen
warm plinth
how so
small coral
He could obviously be too trolling
warm plinth
🤷 I think nerfing us because of raid survival is probably a bad idea but Blizz has done stupid things before. It's likely because of the damage profile of the boss fights
If a lot of the mechanics are blockable, then naturally we'll excel where other tanks might not
small coral
agreed it could prove fatal to m+ tanking if they base their changes off raid
neon elk
Yea i like how he talk about war like this now and when in s4 they wanted to nerf bdk he cried all over twiter, so then blizz just put som wrist slap nerf on DKs that changed nothing xd
small coral
Yea i like how he talk about war like this now and when in s4 they wanted to ner...
Yeeeep
fading tide
Anyone done these elemental invasions? See it gives 385 gear
warm plinth
Not like Blizz is balancing tanks on Naowh's say-so anyway so I wouldn't really worry about it
small coral
kinda wish they’d just relax a bit and let us gear and scale. I like the constant change/feedback. However sometimes the changes are too hasty. Not sure their internal testing is robust enough
warm plinth
Have you attempted the git gud strategy? (kidding ily)
warm plinth
Not like you'd be saying that for a fuckin reason or anything amirite
fallen pulsar
Tree boss in agelthar academy on a +9 was intense, somehow managed to barely pull through the dps check
Survived on high stack long enough to clear it
warm plinth
No poison dispel in group?
fallen pulsar
Nop
warm plinth
scary
fallen pulsar
Very 😅
last pebble
Any tips on dealing with the last pack of jade?
proud dock
if i want sum1 to craft me a rank5 weap and they say they need me to set work order to rank4 to "inspire" for rank5 -- is this legit or some sketch?
lone eagle
@shut summit I was creepin up on you but had to run EW since it's so good defensively on this fight
(Mungbaldo)
vital sinew
Last pack of Jade is cds or pots, take your pick
Going into it empty is a death wish
rugged root
what two gems do i put on my neck ? the same ones?
oblique drift
How do you guys deal with the tree boss in academy? He seems astronomically harder than any other boss
warm plinth
what two gems do i put on my neck ? the same ones?
yeah the haste>vers ones I believe
warm plinth
How do you guys deal with the tree boss in academy? He seems astronomically hard...
At what point are you dying? He has mechanics that need to be done properly or you will die
oblique drift
it's during the add phases, typically the second round
so after the fourth overall germinate
warm plinth
and are you dying or the group
oblique drift
one or the other generally
I find it extremely hard to get aggro before they pop
and challenging shout is on too long of a cd to use twice in that fight
rugged root
jesus the weapon enchants are expensive
warm plinth
Well you can't get aggro on them before they're active. Step 1 is that your group should be stacking to drop the adds.
oblique drift
yeah they're usually all over the place by that point
warm plinth
If your group doesn't stack for the add spawn then you're kinda doomed to fail
slow token
What weapon enchant for M+ is the better way to go? Seems like so many are split
oblique drift
it seems really difficult if you get bad timing with thundering
usually thundering is up during at least one of the germinates it seems like
warm plinth
Are you suggesting Blizzard didn't think things through about how an affix and a boss fight would interact
oblique drift
lol I dunno man, but he is seriously just crazy compared to every other boss
warm plinth
Thundering is completely random placement right
oblique drift
the stuns are as far as I know
warm plinth
No I mean like where the swirls go, they don't go on people right? Just randomly over the area?
oblique drift
honestly don't know, but they are pretty big so people tend to scatter from them
warm plinth
Gotcha
Yeah that's a shit overlap for sure. The group just needs to do the best they can to at least stay close-ish to the boss even if they have to scatter a bit. If you can't get the adds under control then you'll have a bad time for sure.
warm plinth
pew pew
oblique drift
hmm well I'll just try to get my groups to stack as tightly as possible in the future
tender cove
Logs from 2night.
What got me wondering...What are you doing in an m+ having 3 cpm? Like, what is that person doing there?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NRVFzcTHaDxr26mf/#boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2&type=casts
Taking in the scenery? I dont get that. Isn't that pressing 3 buttons every minute?
rugged root
if im using 2 gems for my lariat does the ability only scale off 1 gem or does it double with 2?
cedar trench
