Which Im looking
#protection
fathom goblet
wide dragon
Is it better to stay in Def stance, battle stance, or stance dance? Like is sitting in Def stance for a long time murdering my potential?
spice axle
quick question, at how many targets its better to spend outburst on thunder clap instead of shield slam? (offensively)
fathom goblet
@wide dragon use def stance as a buff when you need
There is no CD
You can use on and off
craggy pilot
is this too BM? π
wide dragon
so just treat it as a DR toggle buff?
fathom goblet
You can change whenever you want
severe hatch
quick question, at how many targets its better to spend outburst on thunder clap...
6
cursive hedge
Which nameplate addon do you guys use? Threatplates or Plater?
earnest nymph
plater
fathom goblet
Plater seems the winner
severe hatch
Plater
craggy pilot
Which nameplate addon do you guys use? Threatplates or Plater?
i used to do ThreatPlates, but switched to Plater 2 days ago
cursive hedge
oh! good to know
craggy pilot
just find a good profile, otherwise its a hazzle to setup
severe hatch
Nothing wrong with threatplates, just less customizable
cursive hedge
is there a recommended profile that i can import?
craggy pilot
oh! good to know
mellow quartz
did you notice the updated tier list on wowhead is posted by "wowhead" instead of an individual author as usual? I have a feeling they didn't want someone to get attacked lol
craggy pilot
this is the one i went with
severe hatch
+1 Quazii has a great, free profile
tacit pike
did they fix bv? some1 knows? π
craggy pilot
did you notice the updated tier list on wowhead is posted by "wowhead" instead o...
where is it?
mellow quartz
wowhead
earnest nymph
where is it?
craggy pilot
only found the "Updated for dec 6th" so ye thx @earnest nymph
mellow quartz
just love they made the post anonymous
craggy pilot
Arms Warr still C tier 
cursive hedge
omg Quazii the god! Im so glad he's back on wow
stable valve
yo wowhead and icyveins need to stop with these tier lists
pastel ledge
How's everyone feel about this additional 5% nerf?
lusty tiger
Waaa prot op
earnest nymph
yo wowhead and icyveins need to stop with these tier lists
they will as soon as people stop asking for them
mellow quartz
yo wowhead and icyveins need to stop with these tier lists
they are just giving the people want they want
how many clicks you think the tier list gets vs other posts? π
mellow quartz
if you want them to stop, don't click them
minor helm
This guy doesnβt even know how to farm
stable valve
if you want them to stop, don't click them
Guildies post the pics in discord π«€
craggy pilot
lets screenshot it, and share it in here, so we only have 1 click instead of 1000 clicks
minor helm
Need to start putting soy faces on it too
stable valve
And go βlook at xyzβ
mellow quartz
I like how they have a tank and dps tier list for raid, but only a tank tier list for m+ and a big F you for healers
craggy pilot
And go βlook at xyzβ
i love when my class is bottom tier, means no one can complain in raid when im top dps π
hazy thicket
i hope that you complain though!
mellow quartz
i love when my class is bottom tier, means no one can complain in raid when im t...
that's when you go "you guys must suck since an F tier dps beats you all"
craggy pilot
that's when you go "you guys must suck since an F tier dps beats you all"
π
C tier tho
and i usually raid with no weapon, since i open all vaults in Prot loot π
lusty tiger
Bare fist fury
craggy pilot
no proper weapon i mean
lusty tiger
Isnβt that a monk
craggy pilot
bare first arms warrior
lusty tiger
Like a feral
lusty tiger
Um u use a 2h
remote cobalt
BIS out yet?
lusty tiger
And attack w your paws
remote cobalt
Thanks ππΌ
mossy scarab
do u guys use the on use effect with ruby whelp shell and if yes, do u go with dmgprocc or selfbuff?
lusty tiger
do u guys use the on use effect with ruby whelp shell and if yes, do u go with d...
How do I use this?
Is it even good? I just got one
mossy scarab
got to decide between those, should i run ruby at all?
mossy scarab
How do I use this?
target enemy,self,friendly to increase procvalue
toxic pewter
I personally just run ones with highest ilvl at this point
slim dove
got to decide between those, should i run ruby at all?
shell + ruby because scale is shit
lusty tiger
target enemy,self,friendly to increase procvalue
I attach it onto something targetable?- then it procs
solemn star
What shell ritual buff are you guys running?
slim dove
I attach it onto something targetable?- then it procs
you target the thing you want it to focus on. targetting an enemy will make it do the damage proc for example.
toxic pewter
What shell ritual buff are you guys running?
Prob gonna keep mastery. But the earth buff does a lot of healing to be honest
slim dove
What shell ritual buff are you guys running?
fire.
urban portal
fire for ST mastery for everything else
mossy scarab
shell + ruby because scale is shit
so u recommend ruby and shell with mastery for m+?
edgy bone
For all you tanks out there, WHICH dungeons do you actually plan on talenting into Spell Block for?
I'm looking at the sheet right now, some dungeons have a lot of stuff that you can't reflect but you CAN block
fast knot
If you take a fissure on Tyrannical you're probably fuckin dead above like a 20 lol
slim dove
so u recommend ruby and shell with mastery for m+?
sure
craggy pilot
For all you tanks out there, WHICH dungeons do you actually plan on talenting in...
all of them
edgy bone
all of them
really?
craggy pilot
yes
fast knot
fairly certain that's the aoe you're supposed to run out from unless I'm gigadumb
slim dove
fairly certain that's the aoe you're supposed to run out from unless I'm gigadum...
it is, fissure is a ground aoe
please dont take spellblock so you can just ignore ground aoes lmao
urban portal
depends on how powerful some of these spells are hitting
craggy pilot
i thought TOugh AS Nails was a huge dps increase
oh Spell Block, sry my bad thought u said Reflect π
none then
toxic pewter
I donβt know about spell block I havenβt used it much but I do see potential in it especially climbing higherβ¦
edgy bone
depends on how powerful some of these spells are hitting
yes this is what i was thinking
urban portal
if its like noodle hits then who cares
craggy pilot
Spell Block probably not worth
urban portal
if you are playing a 25 week one then you are too good to ask questions here
edgy bone
Spell Block probably not worth
it was worth it on high keys tyrannical medivh karazhan
fast knot
I don't think it's worth
toxic pewter
These dungeons do have a lot of magic dam
So I think there is value to be had
Thatβs for sure
edgy bone
These dungeons do have a lot of magic dam
Yes and a lot of chain casting
fast knot
boss casts shouldn't be piping that hard and most packs are cc angles from other players
edgy bone
Definitely agree on value to be had
shut summit
as keys go up you'll start lookin at goin more defensive and spell block is part of that
slim dove
your party will die before spellblock saves you
fast knot
plus yourself
edgy bone
It's funny seeing all these opinions, it's so divided
half the people are shouting it's useless
other half says there's good value
toxic pewter
I believe all climbers will spell block perhaps every dungeon even
fast knot
At much higher keys for sure
urban portal
the higher you go the more likely you need it
craggy pilot
how high keys do you do @edgy bone
edgy bone
There is A LOT of chain casting from packs in this dragonflight
fast knot
but like early week keys you shouldn't need it
edgy bone
how high keys do you do <@97857795604377600>
as high as i can, i'd like to time a +20 week 1 if its even remotely possible. ill be trying for it
fast knot
assuming your party is locking down caster packs
toxic pewter
I gotta find a new keybind for it now that I think about lol..
craggy pilot
as high as i can, i'd like to time a +20 week 1 if its even remotely possible. i...
do you usually time +20 on Week 1?
lone eagle
I think in a world where pwar doesn't reasonably have 100% IP uptime in multitarget packs, spell block is useful comparative to other tank toolkits
edgy bone
do you usually time +20 on Week 1?
no
toxic pewter
Yah even with latest nerfs spell block gained even more value perhaps
lone eagle
But we're in a world where IP is more or less up constantly, which means pwar has a better mitigative toolkit into a lot of spellcasts than most tanks
craggy pilot
no
i guess you gain KSM every season and push towards +20 end of season or something like that?
which is like the general Warrior discord player
edgy bone
Take Nok'hud for example
craggy pilot
and in that case, there is not too much value in Spell Block
edgy bone
LOOK how many spells are blockable but NOT reflectable in NokHud
you can't tell me that's not value in tyrannical weeks
toxic pewter
Yah nokhud seems like good spell block dungeon
slim dove
LOOK how many spells are blockable but NOT reflectable in NokHud
more than half of these are avoidable.
lone eagle
So I think Spellblock, barring some very specific examples (especially since they nerfed how Spell Block as a mechanic works) is overkill
It's win more
limpid anchor
yo when is NA maintance over?
slim dove
yo when is NA maintance over?
about 2 hours.
toxic pewter
1pm central estimated
limpid anchor
about 2 hours.
tyty
edgy bone
So I think Spellblock, barring some very specific examples (especially since the...
howd they nerf it
craggy pilot
LOOK how many spells are blockable but NOT reflectable in NokHud
these are the bosses though π€ Spell Block value is highest on packs that chain cast, since you will get hit by a lot of spells
in boss you can just Spell Reflect
lone eagle
Going into Dragonflight they made it so that spell block like mechanics (paladin holy shield is the other one) work on less types of spells and no longer trigger on DoT ticks, IIRC
Would have to find the post
edgy bone
Let me rephrase my question then: Are there any dungeons or bosses, similar to Tyrannical-Medivh, where spell block is a MUST?
toxic pewter
Spell block in raid any good even?
lone eagle
If we ran into a Medivh encounter, it'd definitely be good
fast knot
I don't think so realistically
toxic pewter
Let me rephrase my question then: Are there any dungeons or bosses, similar to T...
Maybe second boss nokhud comes to mind..
craggy pilot
@edgy bone even though something is not Reflectable, Spell Reflect is still a 20% DR, which is quite huge for a big tank hit
edgy bone
i thought we're the worst tank at dealing with magic dmg
fast knot
so they'd probably tune those encounters
slim dove
dont forget you can just hop into def stance for big magic hits π
fast knot
Not even close
lone eagle
~Sep 9th
fast knot
spell reflect/defensive stance/Demo shout?
lone eagle
It's a buff in some scenarios
craggy pilot
spell reflect/defensive stance/Demo shout?
Shield Wall even
fast knot
ye for sure
lone eagle
ie composite attacks
lone eagle
but it's a nerf into DoT damage, which was an EXCEPTIONALLY strong usecase for spellblock mechanics
fast knot
If you still get blasted through all that
craggy pilot
LOOK how many spells are blockable but NOT reflectable in NokHud
like the list here, most of these wont be BIG dmg, maybe one spell pr boss will be BIG dmg, thats where you use ur Last Stand / Shield Wall / Spell Reflect
or healer external
fast knot
Lightning Strike is not much damage and you should be purging boss if you can
to clear Surge
slim dove
like the list here, most of these wont be BIG dmg, maybe one spell pr boss will ...
a good chunk of the spells in that list are ground effects you can...step out of
craggy pilot
a good chunk of the spells in that list are ground effects you can...step out of
π
"but blockable"
just stand still and block, true warrior dream
slim dove
π
or party-wide effects that if you need spell block to survive? just one shotted your whole party
edgy bone
just stand still and block, true warrior dream
YEAH
craggy pilot
or party-wide effects that if you need spell block to survive? just one shotted ...
nah bro 5 warriors, and all Spell Block β€οΈ
fast knot
Just because damage intake is a healer problem doesn't mean you should make their lives harder for no reason π
slim dove
Just because damage intake is a healer problem doesn't mean you should make thei...
more dam, pack dies faster, less damage intake
tough as nails bb
craggy pilot
What about AoE shield well
i dont think this is a thing anymore?
toxic pewter
What about AoE shield well
Thatβs gone
strong forum
i thought we're the worst tank at dealing with magic dmg
Small misconception, pwar is bad at continuous magic dmg intake, like dots, repeated magic casts
If its infrequent, then we have plenty of CDs to deal with it render it harmless
Same thing with brew, if it's infrequent, then they don't care too much about magic dmg, issue is when they run out of CDs to deal with it
It's not the fact that it's magic
It's the frequency that matters
craggy pilot
continuous magic damage
yes, like unkicked casts in Halls of Atonement
strong forum
Ya, if you eat 1 frostbolt that hits for 300k its whatever, if you eat 7 frostbolts back to back to back for 50k, that sucks
craggy pilot
or the spells from DOS etc
no clue if there is something similar to Wicked Bolts Halls, or DOS casts in DF π€ maybe Nome knows that better
mighty valley
any time there's a debate of "is X defensive talent good" the conversation should really be "what talent would you drop to take X defensive talent and is the switch actually helping you time the key"
strong forum
What about AoE shield well
Has been removed
sharp bone
yes, like unkicked casts in Halls of Atonement
shit tank says the dps after you died while they didn't kick a single one - good times
fast knot
if you get blasted on a pack and your dps didn't do anything to help you
that's on them
craggy pilot
shit tank says the dps after you died while they didn't kick a single one - good...
you died to Wicked Bolt, why dont you just survive 
fast knot
assuming you played it well enough but just got smoked
worldly kiln
dumb question, but during a decent size pull (+2 packs ish) are people just relying on knowledge of what mobs have interuptable casts, watching all the nameplates, and clicking the one that casts? idk if it's just me by my brain explodes trying to click on specific mobs or super tab targeting to whatever mob is casting. Trying to figure out if im just bad at this or if there's a better way
craggy pilot
assuming you played it well enough but just got smoked
strong forum
That's why lots of casts are now the dps
Not just the tank
But the tank will still get the blame
edgy bone
dumb question, but during a decent size pull (+2 packs ish) are people just rely...
is tehre any good plater profiles yet for DF season 1
for highlighting dangerous mobs
sharp bone
yeah love that shift in design philosophy
well yeah the tank or healers are always to blame
but still it helps if dps dont interrupt they die instead of the tank
craggy pilot
is tehre any good plater profiles yet for DF season 1
fast knot
A lot of knowledge comes in there like knowing the dangerous mobs in a pack
if you double pull academy bridge as an example and let a Scepter go off
you're gonna have a bad time
craggy pilot
dumb question, but during a decent size pull (+2 packs ish) are people just rely...
either good plater profile, or an auto marker
fast knot
auto marker is a godsend
worldly kiln
ok so it really is just an encounter/dungeon knowledge thing
wary heath
Are the severs up? I decided not to take PTO expecting them to be down
worldly kiln
is auto marker DBM or a seperate addon
fast knot
Trell has really in depth videos on every dungeon if you want the comprehensive view of every dungeon
craggy pilot
ok so it really is just an encounter/dungeon knowledge thing
either that, or get something that automarks important shit
or a plater profile that colours important shit
fast knot
with like breakdowns of every pack
wide charm
ok so it really is just an encounter/dungeon knowledge thing
being efficient in m+ as a whole requires quite some knowledge imo
toxic pewter
Are the severs up? I decided not to take PTO expecting them to be down
Down for another 1.5 hours (estimated)
craggy pilot
is auto marker DBM or a seperate addon
Weakaura
worldly kiln
how's it working so far
wary heath
Tactyks is a very small YouTube that has m+ tank walk through of every dungeon , and routes for pugs
craggy pilot
Ah ok, i'll have to look into those then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hNBilBnNmA
and you can check this one for Plater profile
craggy pilot
how's it working so far
no clue, season didnt start yet π
fast knot
They do mark the actual important targts
it's just some mobs have multiple casts
like the Dominators in Shadowmoon
craggy pilot
also, i usually take my MDT route and screenshot it, and put it in paint on my 2nd monitor, so i know what to pull/skip, until i am comfy with the route
fast knot
kicking Domination is fuckin illegal
but Voidrend is super important
my boosted dps are going to learn that lesson one way or another π
marble oak
My friend plays prot warrior he said he cant find what stance he needs to be in, does prot mostly stay in defensive or battle stance? and He also seems to lack alot of his aoe damage any tips on improving that?
craggy pilot
My friend plays prot warrior he said he cant find what stance he needs to be in,...
B
lusty grotto
he should be in battle stance, unless hes doing extremely high keys
and/or taking big damage
craggy pilot
My friend plays prot warrior he said he cant find what stance he needs to be in,...
AOE dmg = press abilities more, or fix talents, hard to say without seeing his setup / log / dps overview
lusty grotto
and logs might help to see what hes doing aoe wise
vital oak
The pins say FbV over BV while it's bugged. Is it still bugged? All the guides I've seen show BV.
limber patrol
Cause all guides don't go in depth and say BV lulz was in beta good
Hope its fixed after maintance though
vernal vale
If its infrequent, then we have plenty of CDs to deal with it render it harmless
Thanks for stating this. So many people used to batch about prot in some dungeons during shadowlands because magic damage is hard for prot.
fast knot
Your survivability is pretty heavily dictated by how well your group wants to help control packs in higher keys
glacial monolith
What Phials do we use in M+/raid
fast knot
It's literally a win-win, tank survives better and they get more time to just blast without worrying about casts or other mechanics
queen latch
What Phials do we use in M+/raid
get a load of this rich guy
toxic pewter
Lol
fast knot
I bought up like 40 of the rank 2 frost aoe ones on my server for like 600g each
they are going to the moon when this shit launches
cinder storm
Thanks for stating this. So many people used to batch about prot in some dungeon...
My perception on this is also how efficient dps were regarding kicks (some people barely use them or don't kick at all) so dh or bdk or any other who seemingly cared less about magic dmg were perceived "better"
worldly kiln
idk about yall but i actually noticed a lot of people kicking during my m0 runs.
lusty grotto
also, i usually take my MDT route and screenshot it, and put it in paint on my 2...
when routes were complicated i used to have keystone.guru up with routes on my 2nd monitor. This season though, its mostly press W
craggy pilot
can we get an @ everyoneinprotection when Plka goes live? 
worldly kiln
maybe I got lucky, but overall seemed like people clicked the button more
fast knot
kicks are good but you need shit like chaos nova, leg sweep and aoe stuns for caster packs
especially with Raging if you don't have an evoker to just mass soothe
craggy pilot
when routes were complicated i used to have keystone.guru up with routes on my 2...
not rly all of them though, but you can Press W route easy and do fine i think
vernal vale
My routes are always press W and chain pull.
lusty grotto
vault is the only exception with a few skips
vernal vale
By the time one pack is dead we should be at the next pack already
lusty grotto
and even then they arent really complicated
craggy pilot
By the time one pack is dead we should be at the next pack already
pull out of hunter NF ability always, and Shaman Healing Rain
fuck that AOE ground shit
vernal vale
That's thier problem not mine
fast knot
I think the only dungeon that could be convoluted is court
craggy pilot
That's thier problem not mine
lul π
fast knot
because too many people are used to Legion count
lusty grotto
ehh
craggy pilot
I mean stand around and wait or keep pulling what's faster.
seems like you already decided π
vernal vale
well most of us know the legion route
I've been trying to remember what the fuck I used to skip in court of stars
cinder storm
CoS get to RP with 92% that's all I remember
lusty grotto
mostly in mini boss area
craggy pilot
never done CoS before, im scared :>
lusty grotto
you just pulled specific things, could skip imps cause people couldnt LoS for shit etc
fast knot
was the biggest difference because I didn't want to really deal with courtyard demons
lusty grotto
it also depends on professions
craggy pilot
hoping i get an insta CoS key, so i can practice it low
modern rover
legion was almost 6 years ago...i forgot it all
lusty grotto
so did it, but it comes back
modern rover
burial grounds and temple seems straight forward enough
vernal vale
you just pulled specific things, could skip imps cause people couldnt LoS for sh...
I might just figure out what % is needed before RP and just go with the press W strategy to the minibusses bullshit
deft hazel
i havent seen any of the new keys makes me not want to do them
lusty grotto
eh
cinder storm
I never got to play legion, I know every dungeon after BFA like the back of my hand, here's hoping they add AD or Freehold, but not bolarus f that place
fast knot
Please no BFA dungeons in s2
craggy pilot
is this route a bit troll or is that the thing? to swim past these packs?
vernal vale
burial grounds and temple seems straight forward enough
Burial might have minor tweaks depending on % there are some side packs you would grab and skip other shit for gold challenge modes
fast knot
Dumb fuckers on the forums will vote KR
lone eagle
is tehre any good plater profiles yet for DF season 1
i took Nurgle's or w/e and basically took all the mods and scripts on his to use on my own
deft hazel
i would like under rot or motherlode
mighty valley
i hope they never do another forum vote but everyone would vote freehold
fast knot
at least from testing
modern rover
fuck no bring back freehold
craggy pilot
fairly certain bats go farther north than south
so swim is the play?
sick sentinel
Dumb fuckers on the forums will vote KR
boss 1 kr reality check on tyranical
craggy pilot
cant just W over the bridge? @fast knot
fast knot
for higher keys I'd swim
sick sentinel
NO
fast knot
pack kind of sucked on a +16
craggy pilot
its to avoid the Worms i guess?
sick sentinel
never bring back undersuck π¦
fast knot
then again we were boosted
sick sentinel
undercuck we called it
fast knot
I'm all for an easier experience
severe steeple
if its people vote again i expect most pepega stuff like seat of triumvirate or smth
fast knot
especially early on
vernal vale
cant just W over the bridge? <@128003459743088640>
You used to do the worms for gold challenge modes. And skip some earlier shit
crimson hawk
Please no BFA dungeons in s2
i dunno freehold could be fun
lusty grotto
tyrannical underrot was kinda oof for most pugs
modern rover
tbh waycrest kinda fun too
crimson hawk
yea waycrest too
lusty grotto
= dead
fast knot
Fairly certain I have first worm marked
lusty grotto
waycrest might be great though
loud patrol
still no announcement if they gonna extend it_
fast knot
and then you swim to skip bats because most melee are stupid as fuck and are going to pull the next one
vernal vale
I have 0 memory of BFA dungeons because I hated those dungeons and didn't m+
fierce field
I miss underbog
what do the loot tables look like for the old dungeons? have they done revamps or are legion ones just going to be awful for getting weapons in?
fast knot
Legion gives weapon/shield stuff now instead of artifacts
fallen pulsar
I miss freehold tbh, but I also played outlaw at the time. so it was very thematic π
fierce field
ahh ok, thank you. I had been looking around and clearly missed that
lusty grotto
waycrest and AD might be great for s2 for sure
fast knot
Pretty sure they trimmed WoD table so there aren't like 900 items as well
lusty grotto
i really doubt they will put FH in
modern rover
season 2 kings rest and seat of trimv >:)
slim dove
season 2 kings rest and seat of trimv >:)
go sit in the corner and think about what youve said
fast knot
first boss as well please
immune meta was cancer
My poor ass in a +24 getting it as Fury just embracing death
lusty grotto
hahaha
limber patrol
Short question to pinned m+ build: sidearm > barbaric training?
loud patrol
ye cuz rage
limber patrol
Okay just remembered from beta where it was a meme^^ thanks
fading tide
You guys are talking about +20s Iβm hoping I can do a +5
cinder storm
I'm hoping to do 15s by the end of the week at most, 20s are best left to groups like naowhs or dorki/yummy
loud patrol
imma do +32 this week
toxic pewter
me want 20
fading tide
Is the mythic dungeon tool up to date with what mobs to pull and not pull?
modern rover
i mean technically doable right if u play 24 hrs everyday and get the gear
craggy pilot
doesnt Seasons usually drop HC raid 1 week before Mythic raid?
modern rover
no cap anymore
lusty grotto
yes nielsen
modern rover
since H and M release same time
toxic pewter
not anymore
lusty grotto
they changed it this season
limber patrol
Most people are around 380 without t-set
Beta testing was 392 with T-set
For most people something between 10-15 should be realistic
fading tide
You make your own routes?
craggy pilot
anyone know if this will effect the RWF somehow? are they going straight into Heroic for loot or what?
like how many days of M+ farm will they do before Mythic prog?
cinder storm
Those teams have consumables to spare, they set up marks so that each know what they will kick and plan their CDs, it's going to be fun watch
craggy pilot
just wondering which days will be good to watch
red wave
Any theories form overnight about Lariat? I assume not since I imagine Sims didn't update in time.
cinder storm
First two days are just then farming usually
radiant path
Anyone know of any good prot warrior streamers?
craggy pilot
they might farm in parallel
wdym? so they have 20 people doing raid, while some farm Keys, and then swap them out?
cinder storm
Anyone know of any good prot warrior streamers?
Pika and tattman
lusty grotto
its not gonna be any different than now
radiant path
Thanks!
lusty grotto
naowh too
craggy pilot
Pika and tattman
pLka not pika π
lusty grotto
since naowh is commited to prot again
modern rover
femclap π¦π
toxic pewter
plka did some cool routes for pug and push groups on stream and posted in his discord also
radiant path
He's gonna be doing RWF though
lusty grotto
true true
craggy pilot
nerftanktv also plays Warr i think π€
lusty grotto
FUCK NERF
jaunty aurora
is the move on server start to get our spark and craft?
fast knot
lol
cinder storm
Not nerf
lusty grotto
how dare you mention that fucking name here
toxic pewter
O_O
modern rover
nerf the goat ngl
craggy pilot
is the move on server start to get our spark and craft?
probably wait a bit, depending on what you wanna craft
lusty grotto
dont fucking watch that idiot
toxic pewter
why
radiant path
I'm looking for peeps who won't be doing RWF for the next couple weeks π Thanks for the suggestions, y'all!
cinder storm
pLka not pika π
Pika sounds cuter 
craggy pilot
dont fucking watch that idiot
π€
lusty grotto
go with what Mr.Bubbles said
craggy pilot
Pika sounds cuter <:blizzdesign:745704462613741648>
plka pronounced pika π then we agree haha
cinder storm
Def
jagged pier
nerftanktv also plays Warr i think π€
Man couldnt keep banner up for more than a minute
craggy pilot
ONEOFUS
loud patrol
Man couldnt keep banner up for more than a minute
what? 
worldly kiln
side bar - has blizzard commented on their approach to legendaries in dragonflight?
lusty grotto
fuck nerf seriously
jagged pier
He couldnt he tried went back to bdk
lusty grotto
if you were around during bfa in here, you would understand
jaunty aurora
side bar - has blizzard commented on their approach to legendaries in dragonflig...
there are none
jagged pier
Nerf has a very good group around him
jaunty aurora
iirc
craggy pilot
He couldnt he tried went back to bdk
he kept it up for long in Prepatch though
cobalt seal
pre patch banner
jagged pier
Pre patch doesnt count
cobalt seal
was braindead
craggy pilot
was the only time i watched him
cinder storm
Nerf is the example of how you don't have to be a god tank to play high keys
modern rover
huh
craggy pilot
i had easier time keeping up banner in Season 3 than i had in Prepatch, no clue why
jaunty aurora
why would they bring back old-school legies
worldly kiln
because it's cool to have a super rare item that requires big effort to get
craggy pilot
Nerf is the example of how you don't have to be a god tank to play high keys
there is hope
fast knot
Game knowledge is there but regarding Pwar it's not on par
lusty grotto
plka, etc are great
loud patrol
nerf gives me hope on how im not that bad
jagged pier
I might stream tomorrow, but i also might not
craggy pilot
I might stream tomorrow, but i also might not <:keks:936231610850897992>
drop ur ttv
so i can follow
jagged pier
Click on my prof should be there
craggy pilot
oh lol π
odd tree
because it's cool to have a super rare item that requires big effort to get
i wouldn't be surprised if we saw something in a later season tbh. but yea, it would be like sylv's bow, not a full set of leggo powers like we had in slands
but i haven't seen a blue post or anything on it, just that they want to get away from borrowed power
floral river
just get full tier
mighty valley
it's fine when the tier set powers aren't absolutely insane like in s3
modern rover
raiding sux
worldly kiln
what team comp are yall going to run in m+
slim dove
what team comp are yall going to run in m+
pwar/dh/dh/mage/rdruid
odd tree
whatever my m+ buddies play
slim dove
i forced one of them to go mage
loud patrol
shaman tank, war heal, and pets as dps since hunters do no dmg
lean gale
Crit or verse whats the game for us
slim dove
we had dh/dh/dh we one point.
high drum
/2 lf4m brick my key
cinder storm
Running with disc and whatever dps friend comes along
odd tree
looking like pwar, ww, demo, udk, evoker heals
slim dove
looking like pwar, ww, demo, udk, evoker heals
jealous
odd tree
yea, decent setup actually
loud patrol
but tbh im running pres evoker dev evoker and enh shaman
p war and idk what the last dps is
torpid orchid
we got pwar/ww/demo/havoc/evoker heals
edgy bone
@candid path https://youtube.com/shorts/kBS0PRrv0rM?feature=share
Trae Young killer π₯Ά
candid path
correct
full violet
So, use the sticky M+ Build or the wowhead one?
high drum
whatever you want bud
limpid anchor
So, use the sticky M+ Build or the wowhead one?
Nome is an active part of our community, so I would use his :)
Also, you can flame him
fierce field
nome's general purpose one feels really good, i switched out the aoe fear for more heroic leaps for low levels, but will likely change that in the future
full violet
I figured that i gonna trust Nome more
full violet
oh well
limpid anchor
But tbf i donβt know if the guy actually plays
full violet
gotta edit my comment then
azure light
anyone know what embalishment gear we as prot warriors should go for?
azure light
<:pins:353613639380369418>
haha?
limpid anchor
azure light
Which Embellishments should i use/Spark should i craft on?
1st of all, the power target for Embellishments seems to be around 0.5%-1% power gain over having none at all, so theyre not that important to have the ABSOLUTE best one.
The so far known "Best" Embellishment is considered the "Elemental Lariat" Necklace.
The "Infurious Helmet of Vengeance" was very strong on beta, i dont know yet how strong its on Live, probably also just around 1% dmg output on average.
β Rest is TBD. β
"Armor Spikes" has been buffed recently, it now procs alot more frequently albeit for less damage than before.
limpid anchor
Whatβs so haha about it?
grave crane
Oh good you answered the question with the answer you found
hoary belfry
so IV recommends heavy repercussions/no bolster and wowhead recommends neither heavy repercussions nor bolster. What are your opinions on hr for m+?
mellow quartz
wowhead has HR recommended
fiery vapor
Does someone has a Weakaura for Ignore Pain. Im looking for a bar, which fills with ignore pain
mighty valley
with ITF you'll have to be a bit smarter about block uptime and I want to be comfy and lazy while i'm learning the dungeons, so starting on HR for now
solemn magnet
Does someone has a Weakaura for Ignore Pain. Im looking for a bar, which fills w...
You can rip the one out of luxthos package.
worldly kiln
ya the luxthos one looks nice
thin silo
the highest ilvl you can get is your bis
limpid anchor
(not wowhead pls)
Icy veins
uneven mason
hey all, can i see any fiable site for bis gear?
Stack ilvl
fierce field
ilvl highest weighted stat
worldly kiln
even if it's leather boots from a super rare
uneven mason
Armor > Str >> haste > vers=crit > mastery
worldly kiln
*when applying in group finder
uneven mason
even if it's leather boots from a super rare
So when we say ilvl what we mean is you take gear with the most armor and str
Trinkets are their own animals because blizzard can't balance trinkets for shit so you'll need a guide for that
lean gale
And what stats we crafting on gear
worldly kiln
wait is vers=crit new?
mighty valley
haste/crit or haste/vers
strong forum
crit was always good, but since we have now interactions with crit besides parry, its gotten better ye
lean gale
So haste/crit if you are a chad and haste/vers when you be a wuss=
mighty valley
vers is more consistent, better against burst + magic damage. crit is more damage and parry
strong forum
it was antiquated ever since bfa ended
jade panther
Armor > Str >> haste > vers=crit > mastery
around what amount of hast do i want to focus on vers/crit ?
worldly kiln
and i have better gear to use when i log on now
uneven mason
around what amount of hast do i want to focus on vers/crit ?
165%
strong forum
its just people holding onto the thought that vers has a seriously meaningful impact
back from when you had 90% vers
jade panther
so just put haste everywhere ,
uneven mason
its just people holding onto the thought that vers has a seriously meaningful im...
Thanks for that BFA endgame meme stacking
strong forum
you want to avoid getting more haste at 40% because of the introduced stat DRs
40% before buffs*
lean gale
Guys be a chad and go Crit
jade panther
yeah i don't think i'm getting 40% anytime soon but will see^^
toxic pewter
crit was always good, but since we have now interactions with crit besides parr...
Iβm blanking what new interactions do we have now
high drum
higher than 200% on the talent tree
strong forum
Iβm blanking what new interactions do we have now
shield charge (crit dmg), shield slam(crit dmg), wild strikes (this one is the defensive one) and cruel strikes (crit dmg on execute)
open gazelle
Maintenance extension should be posted any minute now
fallen pulsar
relationship with all other stats over, 100% crit rate or nothing
toxic pewter
Who knew apb would be a haste crit man⦠times truly are changing
worldly kiln
if all numbers are big then no numbers are big
fallen pulsar
spoken like a person with no big number
open gazelle
Does parry have a DR or something
strong forum
yes
uneven mason
all stats have DR
toxic pewter
wait dr in terms of damage reduction or diminishing returns
uneven mason
The more of a stat you have, the less value is has relative to the last point
strong forum
i mean you just get less parry for more crit
at some point
dunno which point
but you do
mighty valley
wait dr in terms of damage reduction or diminishing returns
it's always 100%
uneven mason
DR in terms of dminishing returns
toxic pewter
ya
mighty valley
oh wait i see
toxic pewter
I guess diminishing returns is a given considering the context of 100% lol
uneven mason
We prefer the term "Mitigation" as opposed to "Damage reduction"
toxic pewter
that works
weary idol
Is Honed Reflexes (HR) a flat 1 sec or does stats/other external factors change it?
open gazelle
Like parry always reflects 100% dam no matter how many times you parry in a row?
weary idol
Thank you
open gazelle
Yes deflect
strong forum
and yes, you can parry infinite times in a row
open gazelle
Yeah crit is broken better than vers
uneven mason
eh
toxic pewter
dang the new crit interactions are very good
mellow quartz
Yeah crit is broken better than vers
it's not "broken better"
fallen pulsar
When will prot get bladestorm so I can spin with my ravager
uneven mason
but yeah its not massively better than vers
toxic pewter
lol
toxic pewter
When will prot get bladestorm so I can spin with my ravager
time to put ww on ur bar
uneven mason
When will prot get bladestorm so I can spin with my ravager
Just spin your camera really fast
fallen pulsar
Just spin your camera really fast
brb adding a macro to mouse
fallen pulsar
time to put ww on ur bar
that button doesn't exist
toxic pewter
that button doesn't exist
mellow quartz
5 more minutes and no news abt maintenance being postponed
will they finally be on time?
it cannot be
worldly kiln
i think it can
fallen pulsar
servers up at 2, emergency maintenance at 4
worldly kiln
i think it can
fallen pulsar
calling it
graceful marsh
All the rwf guys are going live, so at the very least the streamer servers are coming up soon
median niche
how useful is titanic throw in m plus?
mellow quartz
yup
worldly kiln
im in
mellow quartz
4min early!
toxic pewter
loading
fallen pulsar
same, about to post my mythic world first to youtube
toxic pewter
XD
cinder storm
It's up
toxic pewter
area 52 taking forever as usual
nocturne inlet
is there a good mythic+ route app for a second monitor?
fallen pulsar
stormrage taking it slow to load too
worldly kiln
thrall slow
gritty swallow
loading screen waiting room
toxic pewter
inc world server down
fallen pulsar
inc emergency 3 hour maintenance
forest gale
thrall slow
Confirming thrall be slow
keen wigeon
why is battle scared veteran not recommended on wowhead and icy-veins for mythic +, seems op to me. Am i missing something?
worldly kiln
so those servers are good
fast knot
Is it still proccing from full hp?
high drum
why is battle scared veteran not recommended on wowhead and icy-veins for mythic...
procs before mit
so basically on pull
fallen pulsar
why is battle scared veteran not recommended on wowhead and icy-veins for mythic...
being scared of battle is bad and makes it hard to fight
just loaded into stormrage
open gazelle
being scared of battle is bad and makes it hard to fight
πππ
spring holly
@keen wigeon I think it's in the pins but basically battle scarred veteran is currently bugged and doesn't work properly in a way that makes it way worse.
fathom goblet
is there a KEY vendor where I can take a key without doing M0 ?
open gazelle
World boss first!!!
worldly kiln
loading bar boss
open gazelle
Do world boss first
keen wigeon
ok thank you
worldly kiln
insurmountable
worldly kiln
in woo
sick sentinel
silent anchor
do you want to macro avatar and DS?
odd tree
i do, but i also have modifiers to select one or the other if i want
warm plinth
do you want to macro avatar and DS?
No. You want to use CDs on CD. Demo Shout has a fixed CD and Avatar can vary due to Anger Management.
silent anchor
No. You want to use CDs on CD. Demo Shout has a fixed CD and Avatar can vary d...
no it doesnt
fallen pulsar
no gear from world boss
warm plinth
no it doesnt
It isn't going to line up with Avatar every time is the point. Hence it shouldn't be macroed together.
silent anchor
that is true, it isnt far off it tho and i find myself using them together anyway, but im easy with 2 buttons rather than 1
warm plinth
I'm operating on an hour of sleep rn. Sorry for misstating that
solar blade
these macro question tell so much
warm plinth
Longest oil change in history taking place atm
wary heath
Just cleared my last 20 and finished raid. Overall a great experience. Excited for the next content patch.
lusty tiger
Just cleared my last 20 and finished raid. Overall a great experience. Excited f...
Really? Lol
wary heath
No. My ass is stuck at work
lean gale
Spark Use for Shield and Sword is ok or dumb?
lusty grotto
no it doesnt
we dont use thunderlord
precisely because it desyncs Demo
if you macro avatar and DS you will potentially overcap rage and lose
you will also put a gcd in with off-gcds which is not really recommended
loud patrol
aw i though we get 2 sparks this week
lusty grotto
no, we get the 2nd spark
loud hull
what is the ring from raid comboed with some head embelishment called?
lusty grotto
you misunderstood
loud patrol
oh well
loud hull
anyone know what im talking about
neon elk
what is the ring from raid comboed with some head embelishment called?
Unless that pvp helmet (veangeance) does fire dmg i have no idea, but same boss drops trinket that pops it, in case we talk about same thing
loud patrol
:D
lean gale
Crit is chad but vers is wuss what is this Chest
loud patrol
oh i havent deactivated it
lusty grotto
ilvl is > all
severe steeple
oh i havent deactivated it
for how many years?
feral jolt
pawn is bad ?
severe steeple
π
loud patrol
tbh for some time i use it to lvl alts and dotn forget to change gear
neon elk
I used pawn cuz it would show me ilvl of people i inspected, now it doesnt work so i had to let pawn go π¦
silent anchor
we dont use thunderlord
thought we did in m+?
rancid ember
π€·ββοΈ
unreal lily
What are the affixes this week?
rancid ember
Fort raging quaking
unreal lily
Thanks!
heavy temple
did they fix the wrathion neck on NA?
toxic pewter
fix it in what way
heavy temple
sockets
silent anchor
no
was going off the talent builds that are posted here and on wowhead and both have thunderlord?
i mean, its rage, dr and damage increase?
silent anchor
its in every build posted near enough, im just wondering why nimchip is saying not too. why would u not press it on cd. more demo shout is good
grave crane
I donβt care if it desycs I can hold it if I need to and if I donβt need to I can just send it on cd anyway
Everyoneβs got a reason I imagine just do what you want tbh
And what I want is to spam demo shout on cd
rancid ember
45 sec shout + 45 sec shield charge + lines up with Avatar. You can sync Trink / Battle potions as well.
Tlords allows for it to be desynced but not really a huge deal. Just play how you want
inland mesa
odd tree
Tlord works with booming, both are great for m+, what would you spend the point in otherwise?
loud patrol
ye
lusty grotto
just go with the linked builds
if you dont really want to optimize its probably the best way
silent anchor
if you dont really want to optimize its probably the best way
what do you use the point in then if not TL?
lusty grotto
even with TLords macroing them together is a bad bad idea
which was the initial statement
silent anchor
even with TLords macroing them together is a bad bad idea
thats fine, we were past that part lol
before you commented
n which your initial statement didnt make any mention of, im just wondering why and where u put it otherwise if your "optimizing"
i know, but i like to see others builds and hear reasoning why, it can improve your own play. always way to improve
lusty grotto
battering ram
silent anchor
battering ram
fair fair
lusty grotto
yeah mooman is correct
silent anchor
battering ram seems like a good choice, ill give it a try and see how it is.
i wasnt trying to get at anything but if someone is telling me to not use something that every build tells you to use....i wanna know why.
not just "no we dont use that" n thats it
silent anchor
TL is just good for beginners honestly
i do lolol
send it on cd
every time
ill check out battering ram. i dont feel ill need bolster etc for the moment
heavy temple
what is TL?
heavy temple
ah okay
silent anchor
there you go
again tho, its in every build lol. however yeah i get what you say
makes prefect sense
n shield charge is just boss
heavy temple
given optimal play, should every 2nd avater line up with your cds?
lusty grotto
but the desync is not an issue for average players
silent anchor
but the desync is not an issue for average players
silent anchor
wont be using TL in raid
odd tree
given optimal play, should every 2nd avater line up with your cds?
Nah, every avatar
odd tree
Avatar cd is roughly 45s with am
lusty grotto
correct
fallen pulsar
obsidian citadel weekly gave tons of rep
lusty grotto
roar is 1.5 mins
fallen pulsar
finished wrathion rep with it
heavy temple
Okay, and if it does not, send stuff on CD?
lusty grotto
rav is 1.5 mins
odd tree
Ah, I'm just talking avatar and demo
heavy temple
yeah
lusty grotto
every 2nd avatar will be up for those AND Rav + Roar
well
it should be every 3rd avatar really
silver tangle
do you guys know which one is better Fang Adornments or Alchemical Flavor Pocket
lusty grotto
but you get the drift
heavy temple
π
lusty grotto
90s = 1:30
lusty grotto
yeah its every 2nd
heavy temple
*or
lusty grotto
work is railing me atm so i apologize
heavy temple
π
toxic jungle
should i wait to do the whole raid before any of the weekly chests and shit if I want to optimize my ilvl gain
lusty grotto
that's doable
hazy sluice
like if i have a focus it will always kick that one and if i dont it works as mouse over kick
i think i had one last time i did m+ but i'm not a macro writer π
lusty grotto
#showtooltip
/cast [@focus][@mouseover] Pummel```needs some testing
im not sure if @focus is a thing
actually it should be
hazy sluice
thx ill try that π
severe steeple
im pretty sure a pvper can help you
they probably have all the @weak kettle tech
sorry whoever that was lol
lusty grotto
might be best to add harm,exists to the @mouseover part
so you dont try to pummel friendly units if your mouse is over it
though, it should fire anyway because its pummel
severe steeple
yo they hotfixed wrathion neck, you can add sockets now
zealous spade
yo they hotfixed wrathion neck, you can add sockets now
fake news
severe steeple
just did to mine
zealous spade
severe steeple
only thing is i used a r2 thing and got one socket
zealous spade
hm
zealous spade
does it take only 1 socket?
grave crane
```
#showtooltip
/cast [@focus][@mouseover] Pummel```
I use a shift modifier for @focus so I can kick whatever is main target or kick focus if needed
dapper shuttle
only thing is i used a r2 thing and got one socket
R2 only gives one socket but it can give up to the second socket
solid vortex
Is Elemental Lariat still worth the spark after its nerf?
severe steeple
R2 only gives one socket but it can give up to the second socket
meaning it already needs to have rolled one socket? i see
radiant storm
the obsidian collar is better right? ilvl trumps all?
zealous spade
When did you buy the item? I still can't socket mine. Maybe I should buy another one?
craggy pilot
can i not see when other people use SB, or is omnicd bugged?
guy used SB 0 times so far in normal dungeon
dapper shuttle
meaning it already needs to have rolled one socket? i see
No R2 can give socket 1 and socket 2 where as R3 can give all 3 but you need to use 3 of them
Gold sink
severe steeple
oh wow
craggy pilot
ouch, 8% uptime
severe steeple
When did you buy the item? I still can't socket mine. Maybe I should buy another...
log out then back in
slim dove
ouch, 8% uptime
for what?
craggy pilot
he has higher uptime of Spell Reflect than SB π
but looks like OmniCD is not good at seing SB CD
it showed 2 stacks after he used a stack
paper coral
ouch, 8% uptime
Hey that looks like my logs before some people here beat my head in
median tulip
the obsidian collar is better right? ilvl trumps all?
ehhh... for jewelry, which has no primary stat, there are arguments for taking lower item level if you need the secondary arra
lucid dew
Do we want to go crit haste for m plus then?
I see a lot of people going crit over versa
craggy pilot
i told him to SB more, he said he knew, but not doing it cus low content π
paper coral
When you guys have somebody make lariats, do you infuse it, or just do the stats?
wary heath
stat priority is pinned, and I believe crit is generally favored over verse, granted the gap between them isn't large
median tulip
Do we want to go crit haste for m plus then?
Haste > everything else
radiant path
Imo, if you're newer, go verse over crit.
lucid dew
Well def haste but I mean for the other
radiant path
Verse is more forgiving
wary heath
people shit on verse here I think slightly too much, with all of our self healing now, it's great
median tulip
the less you have of one, the more valuable it is. If you have ZERO versa and 1000 crit, 1 point of versa will be better than 1 more point of crit, for example
wary plume
cobalt ring worth the stat loss?
modern brook
people shit on verse here I think slightly too much, with all of our self healin...
people shit on verse so much to counter everyone sucking verse off
lilac bloom
just qued for normal as tank and got declined im 271. Is there a requirement ilevel?
paper coral
For making my elemental lariat, is the three star diamond worth it over the 2star?
modern brook
from literally 2 expansions ago when stats did your tanking for you thanks to corruption
sick sentinel
my spark quest is bugged
paper coral
sick sentinel
cant see the girl to turn in quest
median tulip
If your Crit, Vers and Mastery are all roughly in the same ballpark, then you're about right
lyric geode
Messi is daddy. He will finally win the cup
lucid dew
So really itβs haste and then a balance
median tulip
There's no breakpoints or magic numbers than make something work, and having any particular level of a secondary won't make you better at the game
modern brook
its ilvl > everything, focus on haste when comparing equal ilvl stats
neon elk
Its ilvl and when in doubt then sim, cuz different characters got different values from stat based on their stat wieghts
radiant storm
cant see the girl to turn in quest
abandon and redo it
lucid dew
I donβt expect to have the luxury of min maxing any time soon
median tulip
you can't sim defensive value
sick sentinel
i kill dragon and get credit and she says a line and despawns
mighty valley
if vers makes you feel warm and cozy, like a nice blanket, then take it
median tulip
Iβm talking mainly for my cradted pieces
For your crafted pieces, just Haste and whatever else you feel like TBQH. It's not that important, really
mighty valley
if crit makes you feel like a cool biker gang leader, then that's your stat
sick sentinel
weird lol
rapid wigeon
What time are eu servers up tomorrow morning?
zealous spade
log out then back in
Yeah, it worked after relog, sorry for the fake news call
neon elk
if crit makes you feel like a cool biker gang leader, then that's your stat
Is there also a line for those that want mastery for whatever reason? Just interested in line noy mastery xd
lusty grotto
anything but mastery
mighty valley
uh. if mastery makes you feel like. like you've gotten a really good deal on a vacation to delaware. and you're stoked about it... max out that mastery, baby
sick sentinel
now same thing with alexstraza in the main city
errant marsh
hello, do you know which armor is the better to craft atm ? I'm pretty sure from tomorow the neck will be the best but now ...
lusty grotto
most of us have crafted shield on week 1
that's going to be the first and last answer i give to that question for today
ionic fern
TL is just good for beginners honestly
lusty grotto
my daily reserves to answer the same question that has been asked a thousand times per minute are spent
so have fun everyone π
lusty grotto
<:danderson:904606068108304424>
lol dont misunderstand what im trying to say there
pulsar marsh
Which Buff do you get with Primal Ritual Shell for M+?
ionic fern
Which Buff do you get with Primal Ritual Shell for M+?
Fire.
lucid dew
crit prob maeks mores sense for neck because crit is better than versa for fury
lusty grotto
i feel like
lucid dew
for offspec
limpid anchor
What time are eu servers up tomorrow morning?
Should be 5 cet
paper coral
Wow, looks like I didn't play right at all. I dont have the rep for that obsidian collar and EVERYBODY has it lol
loud patrol
theres no one doing my elemental lariat ;_;
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
i don't see alexstraza at all at the place
loud patrol
prob cuz i placed a rank 3 missive?
lusty grotto
theres no one doing my elemental lariat ;_;
its a raid recipe, what did you expect
limpid anchor
its a raid recipe, what did you expect
Raid? Itβs from the event no
loud patrol
and did my 1st +2 of the season and this is a good start
paper coral
its a raid recipe, what did you expect
lusty grotto
i wont even say a thing
lucid dew
i didnt find the guide conclusive on bis m plus trinkets
loud patrol
oh yeah what are we geming? haste?
lucid dew
what are we thinking
lusty grotto
btw is anyones Second Challenge of Tyr bugged?
lucid dew
i was able to complete
limpid anchor
oh yeah what are we geming? haste?
lusty grotto
well i cant heh
limpid anchor
Prob haste yes
loud patrol
btw is anyones Second Challenge of Tyr bugged?
if you dont get ccredit for all targets it doesnt count
lusty grotto
i guess ill drop it
lucid dew
the flame circle seems sick its like a blood splattered scale kind of
lusty grotto
i mean i have to drop tore summong the mobs
it was completed, i just couldnt turn in
it worked now
the maiden wasnt there when i completed the first
loud patrol
oh
lusty grotto
dropping and restarting worked
loud patrol
small indie company remember
pulsar marsh
which trinkets are you guys running?
lusty grotto
highest ilvl
deft hazel
crafted my very own 392 primal defender
loud patrol
for now highest ilvl
loud patrol
crafted my very own 392 primal defender <:gladge:963970137701109820>
tell me u are in NA
wary heath
is there a quest we need to pick up prior to going vault of the incarnates ?
loud patrol
no but theres a small questline that gives it lore
zealous spade
do you have to complete tyr challenges for 2nd ingenuity?
loud patrol
ye
heavy warren
yo guys, where can i find the BIS enchants, runes, prepots... you know
heavy warren
k ty ^^
loud patrol
nice theres a primal infusion for a quest to kill razageth
wary heath
is that one of the chains in valdrakken that appeared ?
loud patrol
ye
wary heath
To Tyrhold? I'm guessing
wary heath
rgr
loud patrol
and 1 cinematic
uncut juniper
**Question at the Stance Swap Macro: **
Can someone tell me why the icons of battle stance and defensive stance are swapped in this macro? For example when the stance bar AND Buff Bar shows i'm IN Defensive Stance, the Macro shows the Defensive Stance Icon. I know it must but to indicate what the next button push is going to activate but im mildly infuriated by this macro icon not being in line icon wise with the rest... how to fix!? π π