protection

[sick sentinel]

most of the people are gonna be farming 10s and 14s

[warm plinth]

Also I like your glasses

[strong orchid]

5 keys, then have to wait or pay coins to continue playing…

[blazing idol]

You think we have jobs?

[coarse flower]

Isn’t 12 hours enough to gear up to doa 20 though?

[merry umbra]

got them coked up and juiced up

[sick sentinel]

Yeah there's definitely guilds starting tomorrow spamming keys

[sharp snow]

No but the skill difference is way higher, the kicks are already pre sorted and everything else so it’s mostly just living. It’s completely reasonable for echo limit to do this in spare time, if it’s worth the time investment.

[atomic stirrup]

Wtb blizzard not nerfing warrior super hard when they are good for once in mythic + lol

[coarse flower]

You’re making it seem like it’ll take weeks

[sharp snow]

Being gulag tank on m+ duty and split duty ain’t it tho

[blazing idol]

Speak for yourself

[warm plinth]

We've been good quite a bit in M+ my friend

[honest vale]

It's not a super hard nerf.

[merry umbra]

heard of BfA 😄 ?

[oblique garnet]

Echo and limit are doing splits and in their spare time doing m+

[sharp snow]

I mean I was paid by pieces to gulag tank

[coarse flower]

When getting a 20 for most groups that ‘try’ will take like 3-4days max

[mellow quartz]

I do like valor cap is 1500 week 1. Wasn’t it 750 in SL at the start of a season?

[oblique garnet]

Because there is no heroic week this is alot rougher than previous seasons

[blazing idol]

You were paid to die on pull and pray you got a drop

[sharp snow]

Yes but 20s might not be worth the investment, who knows.

[warm plinth]

It was, yes

[merry umbra]

valor is never going to be uncapped again sadly (this season i mean)

[cobalt seal]

yes they are when they have 5 people sit down on bosses

[warm plinth]

Someone else said that but I don't remember reading that anywhere

[honest vale]

Gear, like it normally does, will trivialize this nerf.

[cobalt seal]

that can push the keys

[mellow quartz]

Have to hold off on using it til I get 405 drops from 19-20’s though.

[cobalt seal]

for the main raiders

[warm plinth]

would love to see the source on that

[alpine ferry]

Depends on if the race finishes week 1 or not

[sharp snow]

No I agree

[oblique garnet]

Either way we can just see what NA does today when m+ is live and see how high people get

[sharp snow]

But it’s an hour time spend when you have dedicated trader splits

And maybe arena gear is worth it

Who knows honestly

[warm plinth]

you could be NA too 😢

[merry umbra]

why do we care about rwf tactics, just watch and enjoy the show

[coarse flower]

People are overestimating these keys after prot war nerfs

[alpine ferry]

I mean the people who are really gonna be farming m+ keys all days are 3-5 day guilds that dont raid everyday and dont daytime raid

[strong orchid]

What comps are BIS right now? 👀

META

[alpine ferry]

like my guild

👨‍🔧

[blazing idol]

How do you think sco will perform after the split with djari could it effect his performance

[alpine ferry]

he already quit init

[merry umbra]

pre 20, kinda everything

[oblique garnet]

Sco is not raiding

[warm plinth]

That was like a year ago wasn't it

[coarse flower]

Any comp can do a 20 lol

[alpine ferry]

no he quit like a week ago

[blazing idol]

He’s the Tom Brady of raiding

You will see

[warm plinth]

No I mean the split

[alpine ferry]

oh yeah

[merry umbra]

i meant afterwards in general

[median tulip]

For the first week, you are going to want to bring a soothe class

[sick sentinel]

They've been split for a while bro

[blazing idol]

Sadge

[sick sentinel]

rdruid and rogues are meta anyway

[lusty grotto]

sco was a meme in here a while ago

[merry umbra]

go with resto druid and a bm hunter that has tranquilizing shot on their bars u will be gucci

[mellow quartz]

Just need an evoker

[sick sentinel]

hunters are meme tier this patch

do not bring a hunter

[mellow quartz]

Aoe soothe

[atomic stirrup]

Why did sco split with djari, cause she only dates winners?

[oblique garnet]

Huh?

[coarse flower]

You haven’t heard for the 6man china hunter hack? (You might find out soon from NA streamers)

[merry umbra]

its a 2 button class that does dmg, has lust and good defensives, why would they be a meme 😄 ?

[fast knot]

isn't BM like actual blaster tier

[alpine ferry]

good if your team actually pushes the packs at the same time, since the CDR is based on how many targets it soothes

My team has an evoker healer so we hope

🙏

[sick sentinel]

no theyre not

its a melee patch

[cobalt seal]

pls

stfu

[blazing idol]

Hunter is down bad

[reef sable]

Got a question here, what would you pick to upgrade to 405? Shield of the Hearth or Primal Molten with Haste/Verse? Thinking of going with a 392 elemental lariat and making my shield 405.

[cobalt seal]

both ranged hunters are good

[lusty grotto]

hearth is no bueno cause perma embelishment

[blazing idol]

Compared to what

[merry umbra]

i wanna watch your 4 meele group on quaking, its gon be hilarious

[loud hull]

I have outlaw dh and prot what would an ideal composition look like for me?? Pls

[cobalt seal]

to your mom

😐

[blazing idol]

Because I can just bring two demos that poop on em

[alpine ferry]

BM is better than MM when you get the bow from last boss afaik

since it scales with pets

[cobalt seal]

I know

[reef matrix]

To other ranged

[cobalt seal]

like I play hunter

[reef sable]

That's really what I was thinking, having that stuck on there would be kind of iffy, the verse proc just had me wondering but it is less than 2%

[cobalt seal]

I know what the bow does for BM

[alpine ferry]

it was not directed towards you

[reef matrix]

MM burst on aoe with explo tho is dumb

[alpine ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-meme-react-funny-dog-gif-25019867

[cobalt seal]

this

so much this

[alpine ferry]

the explosive shot change is actually

[cobalt seal]

MM burst is fucking insane

[alpine ferry]

so dank

[vernal vale]

Primal molten haste crit

[wary heath]

Whats the ideal m+ comp for us

[cobalt seal]

3 dps

1 healer

[reef matrix]

Cro actually right? What the

[alpine ferry]

PI ME

[blazing idol]

I do withhold they are fine as with any spec that has a competent ape at the steering wheel

[alpine ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-scream-cry-scared-gif-16908408

[cobalt seal]

ALEK!!!!!!!!!

[merry umbra]

im goin with resto, hunter and a pala with dh/monk

[reef sable]

Why haste crit out of curiosity?

[crude notch]

Alek the Betrayer

[wary heath]

Do hunters still have list

Lust

[reef matrix]

Alek the multiclasser wtf

How you going to call me a betrayer while in here too

[cobalt seal]

why wouldn't they

[median tulip]

Discussing party compositions is nonsense; the player behind the keyboard is more important than the class.

[warm plinth]

With ferocity pets, yes

[vernal vale]

Crit just as good as verse in most situations and most people won't push giga keys where verse matters to try and stack.

[crude notch]

I'm banned bro, I don't have anywh

ere

[alpine ferry]

Evoker yoinked hunter lust

[crude notch]

stroke

hold on

[reef matrix]

O lol

[alpine ferry]

Hunter is now deleted from the game

[modern brook]

wow crash 😦

[toxic pewter]

wait

[merry umbra]

dragons only good for skinning

[mellow quartz]

Hunter players…..

[toxic pewter]

wow crashed for you too?

[warm plinth]

I mean they already took battle rez from them so it's not exactly crazy to think about

[modern brook]

yeah everyone

30 people in my discord call

all crashed

[toxic pewter]

ya dang

[hexed obsidian]

wtf

[lusty grotto]

yeah we crashed

[hexed obsidian]

yeah

[toxic pewter]

area 52 login queue

[sick sentinel]

melee patch doesnt mean you are obligated to bring all melee, it's gonna be like 3 melee 2 ranged

[wary heath]

Pls stfu lmao

[crude notch]

yeah game is ddead

finally

[hexed obsidian]

got fatal error

[toxic pewter]

rip

[foggy loom]

um

[mellow quartz]

Maintenance started early!

[foggy loom]

yeah so

[crude notch]

They finally pulled the plug on the servers

[foggy loom]

gg wow

[toxic pewter]

fun while it lasted boys lets pack it up

[foggy loom]

SOMEONE pulled the plug

[median tulip]

Wow go "Fatal error"

[warm plinth]

Time to play anything but FFXIV

[reef matrix]

Wait is NA down?

[merry umbra]

what ranged would u bring that adds something useful to the rest of the grp tho 😄

[lusty grotto]

no

[toxic pewter]

im back in loading

[deft hazel]

i got this as error now there is a queue

[sick sentinel]

demolock

[reef matrix]

O

[toxic pewter]

nevermind error again

[lusty grotto]

everyone just crashed to fatal errors

[mellow quartz]

NA is always down

[rocky sapphire]

changing out the hamster on the wheel

[proven depot]

any1 else got kicked out?

[sick sentinel]

not hunter thats for sure lmao

[blazing idol]

I was literally standing afk for the last two hours and they ruin my fun again it never stops

[mighty valley]

what game are we playing now. we could try star wars galaxies

[sick sentinel]

nope just you

[merry umbra]

and get screamed about no chain-pulling, no thanks

[mighty valley]

i've heard super mario is pretty good

[manic wave]

forgotten gryphon was about to spawn i could feel it

[wary heath]

I was doing laps around oribos....

[blazing idol]

Ragnaros is still up I see

[sick sentinel]

youre not chainpulling when youre pushing keys relax

[mellow quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-let-me-in-gif-26089163

[torn gulch]

lol game crashed for the entire worldf

wtf

[mellow quartz]

No raid tomorrow!

[mellow quartz]

Game dead

[merry umbra]

you do you bro, gl ^^

[lusty grotto]

dont worry, once the queue drops youll crash again

[blazing idol]

Huehue

[fossil sigil]

I was doing UI changes
rip they probably didnt save

[silent sapphire]

ya 3 time crash ftw

[sick sentinel]

correct

[proven depot]

wtf my friend got kicked also

[digital frigate]

that is because he is your friend

[sick sentinel]

the entire world is down

[blazing idol]

Bad day to be friends with you

[digital frigate]

precisely

[toxic pewter]

75 queue to get back into area 52 lol

but game prob will crash again

[silent sapphire]

even when you get back in you will crash

[toxic pewter]

ya

[silent sapphire]

unique key error

[void marten]

finally loading in

[uneven mason]

big crash

[toxic pewter]

wait for it...

[mighty valley]

i loaded in and got the same crash

[proven depot]

hey i know im a bad friend but cmon how would i shut down for him also

[lusty grotto]

yeah you guys will keep crashing

[wary heath]

Razsegath won

[uneven mason]

They nerfed warriors so hard the game collapsed around the void left by our lost mitigation.

[lusty grotto]

i just went in 3 times and crashed to the same error

[hollow token]

oh god i thought it was just me

[digital frigate]

I am excited for heroic this week

[uneven mason]

Pushed our chances at meta into the negative

[hollow token]

was panic mode

[uneven mason]

NAN

[wary heath]

Are you guys starting m+, or raid first

[blazing idol]

I’m sweating at the thought of trying to tank one of them

[digital frigate]

Gonna do M+ with my group first and then join in for Raid time.

[elfin atlas]

Crash is what happens when you nerf Warriors. We go Smash

[sick sentinel]

https://twitter.com/Slootbag/status/1602487894639353856

Ted Bacinschi (@Slootbag)

This is what happens when they try to nerf the mighty Prot Warrior

Twitter · Dec 13, 2022, 2:17 AM

[digital frigate]

You will be okay. : ) It's just practice.

[dusk loom]

man yeah revert nerfs...

[tender cove]

M+ during the day and raid on evening.

[fading tide]

tanking mythic plus to see where my skill is at b4 i do raids

[digital frigate]

This here basically

[hollow token]

first crash was literally as i imported a WA... i was like oh shit what did i do

[wary heath]

Gonna start normal or heroic raid?

[median tulip]

apparently everyone does

[vernal vale]

So, now that wow is dead we should all go play fortnite

[digital frigate]

Usually heroic until wall then normal.

Hate to doubledip loot

[vernal vale]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-steve-buscemi-30rock-fellow-kids-one-of-us-gif-21904018

[sick sentinel]

wow is back!

[void marten]

works now

[warm plinth]

that WA was the one they warn you about "this WA contains custom lua code" 😱

[blazing idol]

Average vdh player

[sick sentinel]

so it's your fault

[median tulip]

We're going to rip through normal for tier tokens first, is the plan

[mighty valley]

oh i only just noticed the nerfs

damn, they're being real delicate with us

[reef matrix]

But loot master

[tender cove]

Pretty sure its heroic but up to the GM and RL. I dont decide that stuff :p

[dusk loom]

I think that is a bear

[blazing idol]

Are you an enabler ?

[mighty valley]

?

[median tulip]

I am back in game now

[mighty valley]

damn, right after i just started my fortnite esports career

[median tulip]

bet someone in blizz HQ was just like "shit shit shit revert that hotfix"

[craggy pilot]

lul just noticed the bluepost

[vernal vale]

Lol

[craggy pilot]

what are these things theyre nerfing 🤣

Ignore Pain nerf 🤔

[hollow token]

guilty

[sick sentinel]

its minor

[mellow quartz]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mass-crit-errors-affect-world-of-warcraft-players-after-new-hotfix-330471

[mighty valley]

the IP nerf rolls back one of our many tiny SL buffs haha

[rotund thicket]

thats what they get for nerfing prot warrior

[toxic pewter]

lol

[lusty grotto]

im in

[mellow quartz]

Maybe they have to revert it if it was the hot fix that broke it haha

[lusty grotto]

should be good to log in boys

[kind salmon]

💯

[warm plinth]

jesus that was a close one

[toxic pewter]

stuck at like 80% on area 52

[spring coyote]

Is there an accepted best trinket set? I don't trust wowhead/icy right now

[sick sentinel]

not sure, but i think i had this

[toxic pewter]

I was here during the fatal error crash of 2022

[sick sentinel]

i saw i had 52 ish gb open on my 500gb drive, so i freed up an additional 72 or so

[warm plinth]

The same people who wrote those guides are in this server so idk why you wouldn't trust them

[blazing idol]

Trust issues

[craggy pilot]

why do you wonder? you cant get 80% of the trinkets yet anyway 🤷‍♂️ just use what you get 😄

[spring coyote]

It just looked like they only included dungeon trinks

[sick sentinel]

i think programs have a problem where if its installed, and it needs to double check the contents of the files, it needs to make a temporary copy, so you have to have at least that many bytes free

and so i was operating on this logic freeing space up

[craggy pilot]

they include the trinkets you can currently obtain

seems pretty accurate, since its very unlikely you have other trinkets in your bag 🤔

[warm plinth]

I already have all the raid trinkets

idk about you guys

[craggy pilot]

sick, did you sim all of them? ❤️

[reef sable]

Has anyone determined which embellishment is generally considered the top? I'd assume spikes, but I don't know how much damage it does vs just getting potion for example

[warm plinth]

Yeah they all suck

[craggy pilot]

all of them

[mighty valley]

oh yeah? link your account name and password so i can check

[craggy pilot]

remember to get his creditcard info

[warm plinth]

Okay but this is gonna be embarrassing

[spring coyote]

Just didnt see things like primal ritual shell and khansguard

Maybe they're just garbage tier shrug

[warm plinth]

[e-mail]
1loveH4rrow!

[mighty valley]

😊

ok guys i checked, he does have all the raid trinkets

pretty impressive gaming i gotta say

[warm plinth]

I do okay

[lusty grotto]

ghash always delivers

[sick sentinel]

idk i delivered to him earlier.

[novel temple]

For real though. I wish we could go back to early emerald nightmare/legion pre patch level

[sick sentinel]

You want Emerald Nightmare bac

that's a take

[novel temple]

90% IP and raid wide leech buff? Hell yeah I do

[tender cove]

Forget this watered down ip sadstory of a spell and bring back the OG shield barrier...

[sick sentinel]

Put IP back on the GCD

🙂

[lusty grotto]

if that happens i want LS and Demo back on AM

[novel temple]

Now that’s blasphemy

[novel temple]

This right here

[fickle coral]

When simming topgear for raid does the Manic Grieftorch assume people are dying? Or is it actually an 11% increase for my toon without anyone dying

[lusty tiger]

love these fake warrior nerfs to quiet the crying war op forum typers and stream watchers

[mighty valley]

yeah for sure we need shield barrier right now

we're really struggling

it's fine if IP is just a rage burner and the strength is all elsewhere

[novel temple]

They should bring revenge off the GCD

[proud dock]

bro that wud mean mega dps at certain times

too OP

[limber maple]

yea thats too much

but demo shout off the gcd would be nice

[novel temple]

Demo and revenge off the GCD

[untold crow]

So crunching the numbers, if demo shout is up, and IP, and with the two earlier nerfs…. We’ll take 20% more damage than we were taking before… but when i try to get 20% of 0 from my calculator it just errors?

[lusty grotto]

lol?

i cant tell if this is a troll or what

[mighty valley]

it is

[untold crow]

It is definitely an attempt at humour

Ill show myself out 🙂

[lusty grotto]

jesus you went way too in depth

but i respect the commitment

[mighty valley]

althought technically 🤓 you get an error when you divide by zero

[tidal pelican]

Missed opportunity for an "aksshhhhhually"

[sick sentinel]

that was the point

[sick sentinel]

That's without people dying, correct.

[untold crow]

Oh wow, I literally just tried 20 x 0 % …. It’s just 0. No error. /fail

[mighty valley]

yeah

divide by zero = infinite

divide zero = zero

we'll get em next time champ

[raven spindle]

hello, new to tanking and prot here, how does one keep running and pulling as prot? I am leveling a bear as well to decide which I like better and as a bear I can just spam swipe while running to pull wall to wall

am lvl 30

[mighty valley]

you have to be a little smarter than that but we have a lot of tools to move around and pull - charge a pack, thunderclap, charge next pack, revenge, heroic leap elsewhere... heroic/titanic throw additional stuff... etc etc etc

[raven spindle]

mhm, thx

so I am looking at the icyveins lvling guide and are we getting Rend only for blood and thunder and not using it otherwise?

[lusty grotto]

take a look at pins

it has info on that

scroll all the way down until you see pins

err rend

[raven spindle]

yeah sorry

found it

[lusty grotto]

👍

[charred thunder]

I just hit 70 with prot, the nerf that's coming in doesn't seem like it's going to be too massive? Maybe super high M+ keys? But really minor.

[mortal brook]

Tiny yep

[charred thunder]

I read a headline and was like, “fuck, it’s over”, and then was pleasantly surprised.

[mighty valley]

maaannnn i don't wanna be number 1 any more

i don't like all this attention

[olive steeple]

Im good with number 2

[mortal brook]

Uwu

[charred thunder]

Number 2 is the best spot. That is very true.

[untold crow]

I wonder if we’ll get more nerfs next week if every top 100 mythic guild is only running warriors or something lol

[charred thunder]

I mean give it time. Can’t let DK/DH not be top dog in M+ for long.

[olive steeple]

I mean they usually let stuff dominate for a season but idk

[sick sentinel]

uhm, okay sure

[charred thunder]

Spicy

[warm plinth]

when was VDH top dog in M+? One season where you didn't actually tank mobs?

[sick sentinel]

i wont say no!

[cobalt seal]

Nice try

But half a patch

[warm plinth]

😂

[cobalt seal]

People slept on bear after 9.0.5

[warm plinth]

Man VDH always too good man, half a patch is just...ridiculous

[cobalt seal]

Why is dh and dk in the same sentence

Dk literally run wild for 2 seasons

Vdh got 1 patch because people were idiots

[sick sentinel]

i think dh and dk are both on par with or better than warrior tank

[cobalt seal]

And got nerfed into narnia after it

All tanks are good

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sick sentinel]

im not teribly found of ppal or brm

is what is

[warm plinth]

DH is definitely a solid tank right now but saying we "can't let them not be top dog in M+ for long" is such a weird take

[lone eagle]

Prot Warrior is deadge right and totally unplayable

We might as well reroll BrM, clearly

[warm plinth]

and who knows how long that'll last if they keep nerfing vengeance because they share abilities with havoc 😂

[sick sentinel]

demon hunter you get double jump as a tank

what else could you want

[lone eagle]

Still waiting on Evoker tank spec

[sick sentinel]

no, i think that sounds kinda silly

[warm plinth]

God I can't fathom a tank spec where you have to empower spells and shit, that would be hot garbage

[sick sentinel]

unless we get body type 3

chad npc dragon vs pc lizard man barely dragon

[cobalt seal]

Vdh hasnt been top dog since 9.0

[warm plinth]

I know

[cobalt seal]

Like not even on beta

[warm plinth]

That was my point

[sick sentinel]

i'll be your top

[cobalt seal]

People are full on copium on vdh

For whatever reason

[sick sentinel]

dk will always be strong in majority of scenarios

they heal more than the healers do by alot often

and strong defensive

[cobalt seal]

Ofc the reason was pepega

[loud hull]

DK will at some point die to 1-shots if miss played though

[cobalt seal]

And there it goes

[warm plinth]

That's because it's what they're designed to do. Self healing is not really a strength by default though.

[cobalt seal]

The stupid dk 1 shot

Making it not viable

[hollow token]

game fixed now or no?

[loud hull]

lol thats not what i said

just that theres a chance thats an outcome

[warm plinth]

Any tank can be 1-shot if misplayed though

[cobalt seal]

Any tank gets 1 shot if misplayed

[loud hull]

to mechanics sure

but not melee hits

[cobalt seal]

Lol

Try again

[sick sentinel]

"i didn't have my icebound fortitude ready......"

heard FREQUENTLY

[warm plinth]

If I take melees from 8 mobs simultaneously as a prot warrior without shield block up in anything relevant, I will die

[lone eagle]

Presenting the Warder tank spec. Uses Black Dragon magic to empower wards to shield themselves and do magma damage, Bronze magic to revert damage on itself, and hulks out with a meta equivalent tank CD to start swinging with claws. First int tank spec

[sick sentinel]

after my dk friend dies

[cobalt seal]

Yogi go back inside

[warm plinth]

We got some nice takes in this server today. It's pretty cool

[sick sentinel]

you cant kill me, i will not die.

[warm plinth]

Man meta is a garbage CD, don't curse us with another one

[cobalt seal]

Why would anyone want meta

You have actual good tank cds to choose from

And you pick meta

[warm plinth]

Instead we get last stand combined with demon spikes

yuge cd

[somber zenith]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/additional-class-tuning-incoming-protection-warrior-nerfs-330467

[cobalt seal]

Oh look

[lusty grotto]

thanks we werent aware

[cobalt seal]

A link

That we havent seen before

Oh wait

Its the 50th time

[slim dove]

new posters should be banned from posting links for 24 hours

[warm plinth]

It says additional so we have to add these to the links we've seen before

[left star]

I think troll might just be trolling

[warm plinth]

I think we're up to a 250% nerf by now

[lusty grotto]

[somber zenith]

nah sorry guys i wasn't sure you've seen it

[warm plinth]

We have, there's a pin about it. It's nothing serious

[lusty grotto]

dont sweat it

[warm plinth]

Carry on being big boy prot my friend

[lusty grotto]

we're just memeing

[radiant magnet]

It breaks prot entirely. Time to reroll.

[somber zenith]

trying to keep my fellow prot warrs up to date

[slim dove]

ok now i feel like a dick

smh

[warm plinth]

It's ok, everyone feels like that sometimes

[left star]

-enters conversation
-drops link about nerf currently being talked about
-rerolls BDK

[mellow quartz]

If you see a nerf and it’s more than 30s after it was posted then we have seen them.

[late coral]

Are there any bis lists for the new raid floating around or are we still wait and see on stuff like raid trinkets

[mellow quartz]

Nope

[warm plinth]

uh oh

elemental lariat nerf

[mellow quartz]

Just get ilvl haste and then vers/crit

[warm plinth]

sadge

[late coral]

yeah thats what i plan to do, though my guild wants me to fill out a BiS list sheet for loot council

[warm plinth]

:pepehands

[pallid quiver]

had a feeling

[warm plinth]

that tonight's gonna be a good night?

tonight's gonna be a good good night?

[mellow quartz]

Good they nerfed the neck tbh

Dunno if it’s enough

[vernal vale]

Still going to be really strong

[mellow quartz]

Was literally on everyone’s ‘go get this’ list

[radiant magnet]

This is why we never let Blizz know our plans

[vernal vale]

Yeah, because its stupid stat value

Still probably a go get it thing

[ancient sigil]

How far into keys you think we can go till we "have" to use dstance

[sick sentinel]

#general message

[vernal vale]

Unless they nerf it again after the week because its still too good

[vernal vale]

Lots of factors matter

[mellow quartz]

Hell yeah

[warm plinth]

until you will die without it

[mellow quartz]

That thing was 1 shotting dps on a 15

[sick sentinel]

no idea wtf that is

[mellow quartz]

Nokhud offensive

[woeful cypress]

theres no set answer, if youre better you can go higher, if youre worse you go lower

[mellow quartz]

2nd boss area when the summon dude dies

[sick sentinel]

which boss number?

cuz like, it cna be the trash on way to boss 3

[mellow quartz]

Wind boss trash

[viscid ridge]

Any specific professions for Prot Warriors? I was going Alchemy/Engineering.

[mellow quartz]

Also nerfing the add spawn rate on first boss is big

[slim dove]

oh thank fuck

[mellow quartz]

I am the same

[loud patrol]

oh guys its finally time to say dead class forever change to.purple class?

[warm plinth]

I am the go-to-crafting-order-NPC-and-have-someone-make-it-for-me

[mellow quartz]

It was ok to deal with the adds as a pwar. ST stun one, charge for root and shield charge another

Repeat

But good nerf still

[loud patrol]

sarcasm btw

[mellow quartz]

These are some really good Nokhud changes

Just hope they adjusted the count as well

The amount you need is stupid

[loud patrol]

they changed notgud?

its gud now?

[slim dove]

Yeah going through it in my mdt i was surprised

[warm plinth]

Sir it's called Circle K

[slim dove]

basically "pull everything"

[mellow quartz]

The fact they nerfed multi shot on the trash in the first boss area means dps will no longer fall over getting frontalled.

[sick sentinel]

i dunno wtf im gunna end up crafting, but if i can get a haste versa 1 hand weapon, i'd be all over that

[mellow quartz]

71% nerf by the way lol

[sick sentinel]

i think it makes sense have a good weapon to keep upgrading

[warm plinth]

I'll upgrade your weapon

[mellow quartz]

They fixed a lot of the pain points I had with Nokhud

[loud patrol]

i like the 1st boss add nerf :D

[sick sentinel]

my retribution paladin still has trouble understanding you cant just simply fly to boss 4 lol

[mellow quartz]

Trust me on a fort key you love these specific trash nerfs also. Except you won’t know it now that they are nerfed 🙂

[loud patrol]

@mellow quartz run with bad dps and trust me you will feel it lmao

[red wave]

Who's still going Lariat tomorrow with nerf? I think I will but debating swapping to Alch Stone since M+ is primary push.

[sick sentinel]

oh, and i learned that the nokhud fear is worse than i thought before, so like, your party members can be more than 30 or 100 yards away, and they still get hit with the fear

[lusty grotto]

fear is doable by just 1 person

as in

[mellow quartz]

I dunno what the change in proc actually ends up meaning for the neck. Will see what some smart people figure out.

[lusty grotto]

it takes just one person to kick on cd for each mob

[sick sentinel]

so thats like a legit 200% wipe if it goes off send your healer into some random mobs

[lusty grotto]

you can double pull that safely with 4 melee kicks

but even then

[loud patrol]

wait is lariat still worth it? did i just spend 20k in mats like stupid?

[lusty grotto]

side entrance is probably quicker depending on percentage

[sick sentinel]

say your healer got lost or died and is running back that fear goes off

[slim dove]

yeah more than likely.

[mellow quartz]

🤷‍♂️

[loud patrol]

thank god

[fast knot]

Did it actually proc multiple secondaries in beta

[lucid dew]

Is this Likely going to be bis in m plus?

[slim dove]

it procced each gem on its own ppm i believe.

[fast knot]

Whaaat

[cobalt seal]

Lol no

[fast knot]

That was busted

[sick sentinel]

im not crazy about that trinket personally, dunno what im gunna try to get, but something

[loud patrol]

i have my defensive branch prob gonna carry me a lot

it felt like a 2nd ip

[sick sentinel]

i got the tyr stamina bad tank trinket, not crazy about it but fits "tank" description

[kind estuary]

So where did we land on the lariat?

[novel temple]

Is there anyway to reliably deal* fire damage?

[vernal vale]

Still very good

[kind estuary]

God bles

[lucid dew]

I feel like frostfire belt will be really good if you get rings

[novel temple]

Honestly I might get the belt for the rings

Unfortunately it’s crit/mast and not crit/haste but oh well 🤷🏻‍♂️

[kind estuary]

which rings?

[novel temple]

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=195480/seal-of-diurnas-chosen?bonus=7935

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=195526/seal-of-filial-duty?bonus=7935

[kind estuary]

that seems like more of a M+ build?

Helm of Vengeance and Lariat prolly still BIS for raid?

[lusty grotto]

hard to say gotta wait for sims after the update goes through

[unique shale]

yo

what do you gusy think about Fated Fortune Cookie as personal food

[warm plinth]

It is the best of foods

[unique shale]

yeah just making sure since wowhead it didin't talk about it

[warm plinth]

I think it's pretty new

[torn gulch]

oh they nerfed the elemental lariat

to not have multiple buffs

[weary notch]

oh, huh, just a demo shout and IP nerf. NBD. I was half expecting a nerf to our AoE rage gen

[unique shale]

btw what are they optional talents for prot

[torn gulch]

lariat is still worth it tbh

even on one stat

but we'll need some more info

[weary notch]

It doesn't seem like prot has a ton of wiggle room with talents. You've got a couple in the warrior tree you can swap around, Int Shout, Intervene, Berserker Rage, Bounding Stride

You could probably lose sidearm, too. Doesn't do a ton of dmg

Prot tree seems pretty locked. I'm absolutely swimming in rage in AoE packs, so at lower keys you might be able to drop bloodsurge and put that elsewhere, but you'll want bloodsurge for single target in my experience (which is limited, to be fair)

[lusty grotto]

nah

ST you go instigate

instead of bloodsurge

but yes you're generally right, everything is kind of locked in

sidearm seems to be the movable point

gotta juggle utility for other type of utility for the most part

[weary notch]

does instigate interact with battering ram?

[dusk loom]

Show of force as well no?

[oak echo]

main "optional" stuff in warrior tree is gonna be show of force and tough as nails. can also trade HR and nails for bolster and ITF

and show of force i think you only REALLY drop if you decide you need BSV

[short plover]

How bad is the nerf to elemental lariat? Still worth crafting tomorrow?

[lusty grotto]

absolutely

[vernal vale]

BSV won't see much use outside of bad players and giga pushers

[weary notch]

I guess if you wanted instigate/battering ram you'd drop Tough as Nails?

[lusty grotto]

we'll see when parses are done, lariat is still strong

[oak echo]

agree, that's why i said if you decide you need it 😛

everyone has a different breaking point

[weary notch]

or maybe show of force

[vernal vale]

Honestly even a 5% nerf isn't much to its value

[weary notch]

but I guess that would mostly be a "single target high magic damage situation"

[mellow quartz]

It’s more the proc change

[oak echo]

the bigger nerf is losing multiple buffs, i don't think anyone is questioning the 5%

[mellow quartz]

Not the 5%

[short plover]

Yeah the proc change seems pretty substantial, just not sure how big it actually is

[vernal vale]

Even without multiple buffs it's still a lot of its stat

Just no overlapping to make it get out of hand

[wooden hull]

it was only 2ppm for 12s duration before, the likelihood it was double proccing when it wasnt bugged was already fairly slim

[wanton shale]

for pure survival earthen writ enchant is the best one but gives 0 dmg?

[vernal vale]

Sophic is what you want main Stat value is huge across the board.

[lusty grotto]

yup

[wanton shale]

got it thx

[dark lark]

Fellow Skyhold brothers fighting the good fight

[lusty grotto]

arguing in reddit is super pointless

its a massive wall named the hivemind

you cant change anyones minds, and any explanation that goes against it is downvoted to oblivion. Echo chambers are like that

[torn gulch]

sophic is expensive

[lusty grotto]

im honestly ok if they think that way

weeds out uninformed players from the rest

[mellow quartz]

The cheapest weapon enchant on NA is like 20k

[torn gulch]

there are the secondary stat ones

that are cheaper

[mellow quartz]

Mean cheapest ranked one of the good ones

[torn gulch]

i can pay 8k for a rank 1 sophic writ

which is the blue one

[loud patrol]

i mean reddit hivemind truly thinks fury warrior is inmortal

[mellow quartz]

Ahh guess they dropped a lot from just earlier today

[torn gulch]

i am talking eu

btw

[mellow quartz]

K

[toxic pewter]

What do you guys think about the belt for m+

[loud patrol]

im gonna say no just cuz i spend 20k in mats for elemental lariat and i dont wanna look likea fool

[torn gulch]

elemental lariat will probably still be very good

[torn gulch]

the best enchant is 80k

[heavy temple]

So lariat is recommended in the pins. Is that partly due to collar being bugged? Or is really bigger than a hc power infusion 1h craft?

[torn gulch]

we have 2 sparks on reset

so we can do both

or one hand and shield

[vernal vale]

Belt has set stats and a set embelishment you cannot change. I'd say it really depends on how it procs. Based on what Nom pinned it's within 1% of other embellishments

I'd rather pick my stats and embellish something else

[heavy temple]

I know, but having a good shield seemed very worth when getting to relevant content, so i went with that like many others

[torn gulch]

then go shield and one hand

[lusty grotto]

im leaning towards weapon tbh with my 2nd spark

but we will see

[torn gulch]

and see what you do when you get the third one in 2 weeks

[lusty grotto]

having shield crafted that is

[heavy temple]

I'm picking wep 100% if collar is fixed

[lusty grotto]

well im gonna wait for parses

but its a good option

[heavy temple]

But else, our neck seems quite weak

Hmm yeah

[vernal vale]

Lariat will still be strong most likely because it's a lot of stats

[loud patrol]

oh yeah we have 2

prob gonna do helm too

[earnest nymph]

for M+, is this still the correct guidance from one of the recent pins? :

Just play FbV until BV is fixed. 
BV = Brutal Vitality; IP = Ignore Pain; FbV = Fueled by Violence```

i.e. play FbV, BV still bugged?

[warm plinth]

Yes

[loud patrol]

ye

[earnest nymph]

kk just wanted to confirm since both guides don't mention the bug and say to play BV

[loud patrol]

and nom called me mad for it

and i was right!

[quaint chasm]

are the haste legs bis for m+ or is the neck still bis?

[warm plinth]

Neck will still be better than legs. Legs aren't even very good

[quaint chasm]

even in m+? i was thinking that seeing how much stats u get from neck

[vernal vale]

Embellishments are not too far apart. In the grand scheme of things.

[warm plinth]

4% haste at the start of a pull is not even noticeable, and that's if you have 5 targets

[icy shale]

Guys

After 2nd week

Embellishments , we wont even talk trust me

Just craft anyone of them

Shield neck still would be best choice

[warm plinth]

I'm gonna talk about them just to prove you wrong sir

[vernal vale]

Really getting something like armor spikes is good because you can always remove it if it's not good later.

[icy shale]

But even if you craft worst one its 0.5%

İf you are mythic raiding

My case

[quaint chasm]

people like to have the best leave them be ;p

[icy shale]

I am just trying to make the choice easier xd

Btw

Did u guys see the nerfs ?

ip+ demo shout ?

[slim dove]

[warm plinth]

Yeah pwar deadge

[icy shale]

its not big ino

[warm plinth]

reroll time

[slim dove]

no buddy please link the wowhead article

[icy shale]

İmo

[warm plinth]

Nah it's huge. Time to play ppal

[icy shale]

Demo shout 25% to 20

İgnore pain 55%to 50

Man they shoukd make it like 30% and 10%

İn order me to rerool xd

it wont affect us

[slim dove]

stop.

[icy shale]

it was already so strong

[loud patrol]

shush

[icy shale]

Sorry

[warm plinth]

Don't stop. Talk about that shit

[icy shale]

Seriouslu

Y

You guys think its big ?

I am wondering

[earnest nymph]

huge, even

[lusty grotto]

lol

[warm plinth]

nah, Genshii already wrote a post

in the pins

[icy shale]

Checking

[loud patrol]

nah we doomed

time to go brewmaster

[icy shale]

Gg

I was gonna think to rerool already

Cuz next week big nerfs incoming

Shield block value will be reduced to 5%

[coarse flower]

did I make a mistake?.....

[icy shale]

in any case

[earnest nymph]

I saw someone saying this nerf wasn't enough and that they should reduce shield block uptime to where it can't be 100% anymore

was like bruh

[icy shale]

Correct statement tho ?

double prot warr comps inc

For top guilds

[lusty grotto]

what makes you think that

[icy shale]

Trust me

Why would you play anything else

Maybe 1x dk for 2 bosses thats it

[coarse flower]

i need a BIG shield to survive high keys; but maybe if I do enough damage in low keys I can farm gear faster and be tankier that way, so I can do high keys faster

[lusty grotto]

i.. what

[icy shale]

XD

[lusty grotto]

what makes you think you made a mistake

[coarse flower]

😂

im seeing people on my server craft shield

im the only one crafting sword on oce***

[icy shale]

Crafting shield is better for raiding

[earnest nymph]

🤷‍♂️ I crafted shield because I didn't loot one and it was my lowest ilvl slot

[lusty grotto]

crafting shield is better for everything

[icy shale]

Depends on how you pull on m+

[lusty grotto]

it is our most important piece, its upgradeable

no it doesnt

[earnest nymph]

what

[lusty grotto]

absolutely doesn't matter how you pull that has 0 relevance on my statement

[icy shale]

Did you guys do 15+ keys on m+

[vernal vale]

Nah, it will be fine can always recraft

[icy shale]

On beta or smt

[lusty grotto]

why do you ask

[icy shale]

its not like the keys before

You wont ever do mass pulls

[lusty grotto]

IT DOESNT MATTER

[slim dove]

[lusty grotto]

what can you not get about it?

[icy shale]

Zzzzz

[slim dove]

buddy your about to set nim off

[icy shale]

I shut my mouth for now

[coarse flower]

im just going to play 1handed arms this sword now..

[icy shale]

Lers talk about ir 3 weeks into tier

[earnest nymph]

I'm about to unequip my shield if I only pull 1 mob

[vernal vale]

Nah get another 1h and Single minded fury

[lusty grotto]

jesus fucking christ this guy

[icy shale]

Nim

Why dont yoy respect others man

[lusty grotto]

3 weeks into the tier youll have 2.5 sparks

because you are spewing nonsense

[icy shale]

Freedom of speech

[earnest nymph]

that's not what that is, but nice troll

[icy shale]

XD

[lusty grotto]

right, so im free to say youre an idiot

[icy shale]

Ty

[coarse flower]

🇺🇲

[lusty grotto]

see how that works?

[slim dove]

https://tenor.com/view/xd-gif-23932310

[grand arrow]

hi mates what is better for high m+ haste/crit or haste/versa

[lusty grotto]

either is fine

a combination of both is probably best

[icy shale]

Nim I was trolling

But now serious

[lusty grotto]

see pins, they are accurate

[icy shale]

Which shield shoould we craft

[lusty grotto]

the one **__not __**with the perma embelishment

[coarse flower]

apparently the crit+mastery with vers proc one is kinda cap;

[lusty grotto]

so you can mix and match with better embelishments

[icy shale]

The one with vers proc or ?

Hmmm

[earnest nymph]

molten defender

the regular shield I think is what Nim is saying

[icy shale]

saw some high graded raiders crafted vers proc one

[warm plinth]

Yes don't make shield of the hearth

[icy shale]

So I am confused

[warm plinth]

Permanent embellishment, fixed stats

Other shield is more flexible

[torn gulch]

I just crafted a haste/vers primal molten defender with armor spikes

[lusty grotto]

that's fine

[torn gulch]

i'll see how good the armor spikes is next week in m+

[lusty grotto]

i didnt craft them in yet

but i might, just getting my stats ready to bump it up

[torn gulch]

i'll report

[slim dove]

spikes is 1-2% overall.

same as most embellish

[lusty grotto]

if anything ill just recraft them out when i get a 3rd spark

[icy shale]

@torn gulch

How much did it cost ?

[torn gulch]

i paid 35k as the fee and then 17+30k for the materials

3 star alloys are expensive

17k for the embelishment and 30k for 15 rank 3 alloys

so about 83k?

and i have this particular crafter noted down as he said he'll give me hefty discounts on recrafts when i'll take it to 418

[digital frigate]

That Earnog trinket

Looks delicious

[warm plinth]

the what now

[torn gulch]

eranog trinket

[royal coral]

Decoration of flame?

[sick sentinel]

Sims well for bear, haven't simmed it on my warr

[warm plinth]

Idk, doesn't strike me as very good. IP gets consumed before other absorbs so you're probably not even going to use the entire first absorb before the second wave hits

[loud patrol]

what

[torn gulch]

well that is how expensive it is

[warm plinth]

and the damage is kinda mediocre compared to other trinkets

[torn gulch]

in eu

that trinket was nerfed considerably

on beta

[royal coral]

I need to be charging more, 35k commision is far more than i been charging lol

[loud patrol]

they gotta be happy i pay 1k

[torn gulch]

well the guy i crafted it at has the 1k crafting order achiev so people pay him

[royal coral]

yeah got tipped me 2k :p that said im in ED so kinda dead realm xD

we dont have public orders

[torn gulch]

you're never getting a 5 star spark on that much unless they specifically said it

[loud patrol]

oh you doing private

[torn gulch]

oh yeah it's a 5 star

[loud patrol]

cuz paying more than 1k in public is borderline stupid

anyway not paying more than 15k the fee lmap

[torn gulch]

how do i know i get a 5 star on a public order

that is how the fees are in EU

at least on my realm

i don't mind i have truckloads of gold anyway

[royal coral]

yeah guessing even private doesnt go cross realm?

[torn gulch]

no

crafting orders are made to make crafters famous on a realm

the guy the crafted me already fullfiled 1k crafting orders

made bank

people know him as the shield BS guy and some other armors as well

[warm plinth]

You might know this already, couldn't tell by how you said it. But you can't guarantee quality on public orders

[loud patrol]

i need a guy like that on US

[torn gulch]

yep i know that

that is why i went private

[loud patrol]

they all rolling weapon like dumb

[warm plinth]

Okay, sorry. Just wanted to tell you in case you didn't

❤️

[torn gulch]

don't worry mate

[torn gulch]

well weapons are good business

my spark will go in a weapon tommorow

[loud patrol]

mine will go in helm and neck

[torn gulch]

which will hopefully go to at least 405 this week

next is the one in 2 weeks

[loud patrol]

420 this week with rngesus help

as far as i know we get 2 tomorrow

[torn gulch]

you get the second one yes

if you want to get the next to 418 this week

you'll need 10 16+

and a lot of primal chaos

[loud patrol]

already got my group of fiends

[torn gulch]

and someone with the skill to raise it that high

[royal coral]

yeah i went for something like that but alas small realm lol

[torn gulch]

i'm on twisting nether which is one of the biggest english realms in EU

[loud patrol]

what realm

[royal coral]

ED

[torn gulch]

i'm genuinely impressed with him pumping that many high crafting orders

[loud patrol]

eu?

[torn gulch]

in 2 weeks

[royal coral]

emrald dream

yep

[loud patrol]

rip

[loud patrol]

bro prob in gold cap rn

[torn gulch]

i mean you need an average of 10k per order to gold cap

with him having the 1k crafting order achiev

[loud patrol]

isnt he charging around 30k?

[torn gulch]

that's for shield

[loud patrol]

oh

[torn gulch]

but he charges 5k for 382's

and like 10-15k for armor

[loud patrol]

man i need a shield guy

[torn gulch]

you'll have to keep an eye on your server and get one that you can go and recraft

for discounts

[loud patrol]

oh advice for tomorrow, dont go to the world boss or the area its in

[torn gulch]

why?

[loud patrol]

wait til like 5 hours after the servers are up

[oak echo]

can you imagine if its the azure span one

[loud patrol]

imagine that

[oak echo]

the whole dragon isles will just sink into the ocean from the lag

[loud patrol]

lag spam

[brave temple]

Why?

[torn gulch]

well i'll go there have like 5 fps

kill the boss and then go to m+

[loud patrol]

you gonna die of lag and not be able to play for like 2 hours

[brave temple]

Xd

[oak echo]

when SL world bosses came out the zone they were in was legit unplayable

i imagine the same will happen here

[primal jetty]

dead realm

[loud patrol]

i remember that

[sick sentinel]

What's that neck called that everyone wants again?

[torn gulch]

it's ok maintenance is early morning in eu

[primal jetty]

Lariat

[torn gulch]

elemental lariat

[sick sentinel]

Thanks!

[slow orchid]

Anyone here on Illidan that is able to craft a 392 shield?

[torn gulch]

maintenance finishes at 7 am CEST in EU we're gucci

[full violet]

Unsure if i should still craft lariat after this nights nerf

[north current]

Is the 2-Set - Warrior Protection Class Set 2pc changing as it’s says - Revenge grants you Vanguard's Determination, But blizzard just said in patch notes Vanguard no longer reduces damage taken (was 5% damage reduction).

[loud patrol]

that nerf is the same effect as our nerfs: doesnt matter still op

[royal coral]

Vanguard is the warrior dont get crit im a tank passive

[full violet]

I was thinking the same, but generally im a low iq guy so

[loud patrol]

this is getting modified tomorrow

[royal coral]

yeah but shouldnt effect the tier

[warm plinth]

It won't, no

[grizzled nova]

demo shout and IP are getting nerfed tomorrow as well

[warm plinth]

It's talking about that passive, not the tier set @north current

[grizzled nova]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-december-13/1439702/1108

[north current]

Ah ok Ty

[loud patrol]

wait isnt the 5% reduced dmg going away?

[warm plinth]

It is, yes

[loud patrol]

then why u say no

[royal coral]

Yes but the question was about tier, its a diffrent thing

[warm plinth]

But we'll still get the stam and armor from it

[loud patrol]

ye

oh ok

[warm plinth]

was a reply to this

[grizzled nova]

Vanguard 5% -> 0%
D stance 20% -> 15%
Demo shout 25 -> 20%
IP 55% -> 50%

[loud patrol]

ohh

[grizzled nova]

is what's happening tomorrow

[loud patrol]

we

[warm plinth]

I thought I had hit reply but guess not

[loud patrol]

time to go shaman tank

[full violet]

This is the way

[warm plinth]

the sky is falling

[loud patrol]

seas are black now

[torn gulch]

once upon a time that was a thing

and warr is still op

[loud patrol]

i wish it still was a thing

[torn gulch]

now we might actually press defensives

[loud patrol]

nah not yet lmao

hp might go down from 94%

[hexed obsidian]

It's taking me forever trying to craft primal alloys for my shield... How's everyone getting their shields so fast?

[torn gulch]

i wonder what phials are we using

[loud patrol]

we buy em

[torn gulch]

by spending money

[wary heath]

uh..... a work order? takes 3 minutes and like 5k gold

[torn gulch]

paying 2k per rank 3 alloy

[hexed obsidian]

Cries in 7k net gold

[inland mesa]

our AH is down so you can't even buy anything

[torn gulch]

i spend 80k gold to craft my shield

kek

[inland mesa]

30k for a weapon enchant and I don't even know which one to get

[loud patrol]

i spend 30k

[wary heath]

there's zero pride in wasting time leveling up blacksmithing just so you can craft your own shield, take 15 seconds and have someone craft it for you

[torn gulch]

the best enchant for weapon is 80k on my server

i'm not buying that

especially as i am crafting weapon tommorow

[inland mesa]

which is best, as I've seen 3 different enchants

[full violet]

Im using str for every mob that attacks me stacking to 5 (cant craft anything better)

[loud patrol]

im not buying enchants yet

[torn gulch]

sohpic devotion is like 1k main stat at rank 3

[loud patrol]

people are mad if they think im gonna pay 50k

[hexed obsidian]

Im specced into mining and black smithing and pain stakingly crafting the primal alloys so I can craft it. Having no gold is no fun.. literally did not but mining today

[torn gulch]

i buy cheap enchants

for example stam on boots is like 50g for rank 1

70 stam

[hexed obsidian]

What our star pri haste and vers? Or mastery and vers?

*stat

[lusty grotto]

check pins

mastery is dead wrong

please check pins

they are there for a reason

[wary heath]

somepeople here think this is prio CRIT > Strength > CRIT > CRIT > everything else

[warm plinth]

No no no

[lusty grotto]

theres one very specific message that says our stat prio

[warm plinth]

Nome works hard to type these for you guys

[lusty grotto]

smh ghash

[warm plinth]

Use your face balls

[lusty grotto]

people need to learn how to read fucking pins

[hexed obsidian]

Lol my b still new

[torn gulch]

and i thought i was wrong and deleted my message

:))))

[lusty grotto]

are we gonna have this discussion again Ghash?!

putting my gloves on

[elder bay]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[warm plinth]

sorry, what was that?

[lusty grotto]

you son of a bitch

thats a low blow

[warm plinth]

😂

[potent gulch]

So. Elemental lariat- still bis?

[torn gulch]

😂 😂 😂 🍿

[warm plinth]

Probably

need to wait for simc to be updated

[torn gulch]

lol they closed the AH in eu

wtf

[lusty grotto]

its been closed in NA

for a bit

[primal jetty]

🤡

[warm plinth]

❤️ you Nim

[hexed obsidian]

Man it's a pain trying to craft the shield

[lusty grotto]

could be related to the mega crash earlier

[primal jetty]

this probably

[lusty grotto]

[warm plinth]

still hilarious how many views that video got though

[lusty grotto]

[torn gulch]

and i was buying enchants

[lusty grotto]

people do like paul rudd trolling conan