protection

[ionic fern]

Where did you take the TC>SS?

[blazing condor]

what was the numbers on when outburst TC > outburst SS

with avatar up / down

[hazy sluice]

Nvm I checked unstoppable force and then TC comes first

If I get so many procs that I would never cast revenge in a pull, do i just miss out on the dot from it and that's fine ?

[ionic fern]

in ST?

[foggy osprey]

Hey guys. Giga noob question, but my shield slam sometimes crits like 100k+ and I am having trouble pinpointing why. Looking at our talents I don't get where the multipliers are that lead to such a big number

[blazing condor]

Probably outburst

[warm plinth]

are you in war mode?

[foggy osprey]

No

[ionic fern]

Punish+Outburst+BFI

[foggy osprey]

Yes was thinking that too but still a 200% + Punish seems to be lower than 100k

BFI ?

[hazy sluice]

In st and Mt would be good to know 😄

[ionic fern]

Brace for Impact.

[noble lynx]

It increases shield slam dmg 5%-25%

[warm plinth]

well you can get 25% increased damage from BFI, 200% from outburst, and probably 20-30% from Punish theoretically?

with lucky procs

so that's quite a big jump in damage

[noble lynx]

And shield block active as well (you might be looking at tooltip without it on)

[obsidian path]

Booming voice too maybe ?

[foggy osprey]

With booming voice as well. Yeah makes sense. I think I was missing BFI in what I was looking at

[noble lynx]

• crit is 100% increase?

And avatar is 20% dmg too right?

[warm plinth]

yep

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-thinking-adding-up-calculating-cute-gif-14475367

[noble lynx]

Mutiplier city

[obsidian path]

1-hand spec too

[noble lynx]

But 1hand spec is constant not temporary

[strong forum]

Outburst + avatar + booming voice overlapping

[warm plinth]

Plus 10% crit damage from crushing force

[noble lynx]

Damn

[strong forum]

• all the passives yeah

[noble lynx]

I think protwar might be good

[warm plinth]

SHIELD SLAM POWA

[noble lynx]

+good shield mog is also a 50% increase

[warm plinth]

true

[strong forum]

Don't let this distract you from prot paladins

[warm plinth]

bulwark of azzinoth mog is a 100% decrease though

[strong forum]

They're just as stupid now

[noble lynx]

Sloot is crying

[strong forum]

And offer better ways to help their group

[noble lynx]

About protpal

[strong forum]

Lmao

[warm plinth]

Yes but they're less fun to play because blizz took my Avenger's Shield holy power 😠

[limpid anchor]

That’s the only good shield

[strong forum]

Prot pally is unironically better

[noble lynx]

Or well he is crying about war cause protpal is bad according to him

[warm plinth]

bulwark of azzinoth is the basic bitch shield

[blazing condor]

but all the streamers put us in S tier!!!

[obsidian path]

I love the new dungeon shields

Btw

[limpid anchor]

You are the basic bitch

[obsidian path]

The round-ish ones

[strong forum]

Mmmh yes, let's forget about 1min sac, bop, spell warding, lay on hands wogs, the 3 back to back buffs they received

[noble lynx]

Dorki said s tier cause once you learn basics war is pretty forgiving

[strong forum]

Pally is literally insane rn

Anybody who ways otherwise is wrong

[obsidian path]

Now gimme a proper 2-hander transmog rule change

[limpid anchor]

Every tank is

[noble lynx]

You can sit in def stance have 100% shield block and you will do more than fine without a second thought

[strong forum]

Yes that is true

Prot war is very simple now

To get by defensively

[noble lynx]

I feel like veng is a def juggle again

[obsidian path]

Focus has gone a bit further towards damage than active survivability

[hazy sluice]

Don't forget that pally is the kickmaster himself

[noble lynx]

Every start of xpac

We only have m0

[strong forum]

Pally literally sleeper R1 tank for m+

[noble lynx]

We only see burst dmg

[limpid anchor]

Let’s see how it’s in m+. Neither now nor on beta it was

[noble lynx]

???

[obsidian path]

Still it's easier to upkeep ressources for defenses and have some for damage

[strong forum]

Veng has been nerfed 3 times since beta m+

So uh yeh

[limpid anchor]

Ye maybe it’s worse now

But not in the current content

[noble lynx]

Yes but you play around and rotate different mitigations

Is objectively more complex than keeping up shield block

Thats not a "lets see in m+" thing

Regardless of its powerlevel

[strong forum]

Yeah vdh needs to actually time their defensives

Can't just overlap them

[obsidian path]

What I know is that at my level (aotc/ksm), I'll have fun and be decent when I go prot
Good enough for me

[hazy sluice]

I still need an answer from you gods, or I cannot sleep 😄

[versed matrix]

this expansion is so weird in that tanks actually feel really fun

[strong forum]

At that level everything is omega find muscadet tanks are massively stronger than in SL

[noble lynx]

The game always have been the most fun when tanks are strong

So we are looking at a good xpac

If they dont ruin it

[limpid anchor]

I mean, you said basics. I would say not overlapping your 3 buttons is basic

[obsidian path]

At least dragon is fun

[limpid anchor]

Didn’t say it’s not more complex than pwar

[blazing condor]

tanks in 9.0

[noble lynx]

I said basic on protwar is to keep up block

Sit in def stance

[obsidian path]

Kitters you mean

[noble lynx]

Dont minmax dmg

[ionic fern]

I'm honestly not sure what you're asking about.
Deep Wounds is also applied by Devastator. You use Revenge as an offensive rage dump.

[hazy sluice]

So if I am at full rage and don't need IP and SS and TC are up I use revenge ?

[ionic fern]

In AoE you still want to cast Revenge early on as it puts the DW dot on everything.

[ionic fern]

If you are at full rage and SS/TC are up you IP->SS

[hazy sluice]

Yeah that's what I was doing and what i thought.

[ionic fern]

IP is not on the global cooldown, Revenge is.

[blazing condor]

You will have times where you have to weave IP in inbetween GCDs to not overcap rage

[hazy sluice]

Yeah I know that and a friend asked me that and I tried to explain to him that u can dump your rage OGCD with IP to feed your rage spending talents

But he doesn't get that

[noble lynx]

You press button, button costs rage

[hazy sluice]

So I thought that I am wrong at this point

[noble lynx]

Whats hard to get

[obsidian path]

Button press heals

Too

[blazing condor]

you spend rage so you can get Outburst as well as feed into Anger Management

[obsidian path]

= prot is fun

[ionic fern]

If i was at full Rage with SS/TC up in ST:
IP(to prevent rage overcap from SS)->SS->TC->Revenge

Easy as that.

Your main goal is to avoid rage overcapping while maximising rage gain.

[versed matrix]

would you ever use rage on slam for single target?

or is getting more IP just better?

[ionic fern]

You don't use Slam. Period.

[versed matrix]

huh

[ionic fern]

Don't even put it on your bars.

[hazy sluice]

Fine. But what happens if u come to revenge and suddenly SS procs . And so on ? Do u at one point ignore a ready tc or SS for revenge ?

[versed matrix]

makes sense

[blazing condor]

use revenge

instead of slam

[ionic fern]

"Your main goal is to avoid rage overcapping while maximising rage gain."

[hazy sluice]

So instead of revenge it will be IP ss

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[hazy sluice]

Okay
So there are pulls where I never use renevnge

That is okay then ?

[ionic fern]

IP only if you would otherwise overcap rage.

If you wouldn't overcap rage with the next SS you can just SS->Revenge

[obsidian path]

Somebody macroed ss on ip

[ionic fern]

Literally a priority, not a rotation:
0)IP ONLY TO PREVENT RAGE OVERCAP

1. SS
   2.Thunder Clap
2. Revenge

[ionic fern]

There are hardly any times like that.

Unless the pull lives like 5s

[hazy sluice]

But i had one and I just got that question in my head since then

[ionic fern]

If you're now talking about AoE then you still cast Revenge.

[trim island]

isn't damage mitigation more important than revenge damage?

or do you get enough IP from talents

[obsidian path]

Yeah it doesn't really happen unless you don't take enough damage to deplete ip

[ionic fern]

We are talking about offensively.

Mitigation from SB is a given.

[ionic fern]

Are you talking about AoE now or ST?

[hazy sluice]

I mean I obviously wouldn't have these questions if revenge was also offgcd

[obsidian path]

Like protpals

[hazy sluice]

Now aoe 😄

St SS over all I guess

Except in avatar with UF

[ionic fern]

Even then in ST still SS.

[hazy sluice]

And in Multitarget?

[ionic fern]

Okay, so..in AoE you still weave in Revenges.
It's fine to keep SS waiting for a global or two.
SS->TC->SS PROCS->Revenge->SS

[hazy sluice]

Thank God. Now I have it written down somewhere. Thank you for your time 😄

And is this from 2 targets upwards or at more targets ?

[scenic plank]

IP only to avoid overcapping as a hard rule? I feel like with all the magic damage this xpac IP’s usefulness would be a little higher than that

[ionic fern]

If you're playing correctly you're going to be having it up for the majority of the time regardless.

[restive hinge]

Anyone that played beta know hard we get clapped in jade serpent? Heard it's pretty bad on second boss?

[scenic plank]

I think we’re on the same page, im just not sure about the wording of that advice, it makes it seem like you should almost never click IP, which I feel like isn’t true.

[ionic fern]

As i said - if you're playing optimally, that's the usage.
It's a priority list.

If i'm not capping rage, SS/TC are on CD, i'm using Revenge over IP.

[icy citrus]

Sorry to interrupt, but is it worth to level up a Dwarf over my existing Orc Pwarr for M+?

[jagged pier]

Does not matter

[ionic fern]

The Dwarf racial is great, but by no means mandatory.

[inner hound]

The more you do the SS,TC, Renvenge dance right. The more rage you have left over for IP. The absolute worst thing that can happen is you dumped too much rage into IP and starve yourself while SS and TC are on cd, then you will be standing there with your pants down and not only get less IP afterwards but lose leech, indomitable heals, brutal vitality IP , etc.

[noble lynx]

Level night elf

[blazing condor]

panda or bust

[noble lynx]

My panda is dead forever

[stone condor]

Is there something i "should" do when hitting lvl 70 besides gearing my character

[static aspen]

Yes, enjoy new expansion

[scenic plank]

I understand this, my issue isn’t with prioritizing those over IP, but the advice given made it seem like IP shouldn’t be used unless you just had spare rage which isn’t entirely true. We’re all on the same page, I disagreed with how it was presented originally

[ionic fern]

I think the only time i purposely used IP as a defensive was during ML 2 last bosses.

[blazing condor]

3rd boss was ass

top keys would tele out to put on Never Surrender lol

[ionic fern]

Jeah

That's what i did.

In the highest keys.

😂

[blazing condor]

mwahi did top keys pog

[ionic fern]

Believe it or not, i used to actually be good at the game and push keys in ancient times,

[blazing condor]

im sure you did grandpa! Lets get you to the couch so you can watch some tv, shall we?

[noble lynx]

Have fun

[ionic fern]

Yes plz.

Sounds comfortable.

[blazing condor]

[strong forum]

Eyir cooks

[gilded tendon]

Yes chef!

[blazing condor]

nice

[noble lynx]

Eyir cocks

[gilded tendon]

[noble lynx]

Pog

[sweet summit]

eyir sucks

[gilded tendon]

fuk u @sweet summit

[ionic fern]

fuk u @sweet summit

[sweet summit]

wtf

[sage sun]

shield or 1h to craft first with primal infusion?

[strong forum]

For offense, 1h
For defense, shield

The choice is yours

1st boss of raid drops both weapon and shield

[neon elk]

Is there some guide or at least a "helping" hand as to what should u craft in what oder( prio maybe) for different contents? Im honestly lost af there . There are some items with pre determined efects , then some u can choose, then u got tier and whatnot

[versed matrix]

were the super elites nerfed to only give 379 gear instead of 385?

[lusty tiger]

Wait until day 2 when logs are posted

[noble lynx]

Im still a bit madge we dont have conq banner

[blazing condor]

banner was nice

[sweet summit]

rng on ilvl they drop

higher ilvl u have gives the items a chance to be higher

not guaranteed

[versed matrix]

rip

got like 4 379's in a row

[ionic fern]

#protection message

[blazing condor]

idk anything about sparks and shit

nor crafting for that matter

[lyric elm]

we can worry about that when we hit a gearwall i think

[blazing condor]

im in no rush to do anything in the game anyway

[neon elk]

@ionic fern u da mvp, ty

[lyric elm]

ye im like renown 5-10 hehe

[blazing condor]

all ive really done since i hit 70 was m0s

[lyric elm]

yes chef

[versed matrix]

I haven't even bothered with m0's for this week

[lyric elm]

no need really

ill help my friends gear up tho

[versed matrix]

yeah

same

I'm just waiting for them to play

[oak ivy]

Is there some hidden rule for recrafting gear cuz I still can't put this armor spike on my shield D:

[mortal brook]

certain slots take certain optionals yep

[oak ivy]

ohai steve :0 mr bear god

[mortal brook]

eyir socks

[gilded tendon]

🧦

[oak ivy]

so armor spikes can't go on shield?

[mortal brook]

not on the list for shield nope. and for example only weapon slot takes the bronze grip

[oak ivy]

it's.. in the picture..

[mortal brook]

fang on the weapon, not on the shield. pictured

[mortal brook]

oh im dumb then. spikes vs fang. heck

yep should be able to add em!

if you're trying to add them, hitting the craft button and nothing is happening, repair your gear

[oak ivy]

FAHK

thank you

[mortal brook]

i have many advice. sometimes one of them is useful

lol

[oak ivy]

WEEEEW that was it ty papa steve

[mortal brook]

related, was that one of the embellishments yall are recommending here?

[oak ivy]

The only quote I recall was "I don't recommend it. That said, I did it."

[mortal brook]

its an easy recraft to swap out once you get the better ones, at least

one perk of the optionals

[bold thunder]

So is there a reason why, when i look at our bis lists for trinkets, this isn't listed at all? Its all these weird on use damage ability trinkets and Ruby Whelp Shell. Shouldn't a large vers proc + strength be really good for us since it's just flat damage and damage reduction?

[oak ivy]

I love how broken the item restoration website is now

Can't sort at all

[devout pewter]

guys, but i noticed that unlike us plates, we don't have the tier set of the pieces created by the profession like other classes. So for us which pieces will be encore?

[cobalt seal]

Highly depends how often it procs

[strong forum]

It's 6% vers with 1ppm iirc

It's not at all large, and it's from a worldquest

Not a dungeon drop, thus not farmable

[mortal brook]

less proc than say the Lariat neck, and cant choose the stat it gives

oh wait thats a trinket im tired

lots of stat stick trinkets out there. id just sim between em 🤷‍♂️

and replace them all next week

how tired? almost to my first paragon caches for centaur and expedition

[neon elk]

How ?

Im like 12 and 14 or so

[mortal brook]

click dirt

do hunts

👍

[oak ivy]

Go climbing?

[neon elk]

How many hunts u do ? All of them? Xd

[mortal brook]

its been several hunts

[quasi blaze]

is that ignore pain still use full or should change to

[mortal brook]

need to spend your rage, ignore pain is one way yep

[quasi blaze]

i mean 30% ot 15%

or that doesn't matter

[neon elk]

Check first pin

[quasi blaze]

what pin

[high drum]

do we know if neck recipie is coming next week?

[eager schooner]

Regarding loot specs, do we go fury besides specific bosses targetting shields /particular trinkets or stay prot in general?

[noble lynx]

Check boss by boss

[hazy sluice]

Is there a simple bis answer to what i do with my spark ?

[lyric elm]

no

[neon elk]

Guess u stay prot in m+ all the time unless u have wep/shield maxed right? Im kinda used to other tanks where u can "cheese" specs easier ..

[noble lynx]

You check loottable

Early on just sit in prot i guess

[neon elk]

Ye but as long as u dont **have wep or shield in dung u stay prot , same for vault , right ?

I wrote it like retard tbh ..

[blazing condor]

if i planned on playing OS i'd lootspec prot until i got a shield and wep

maybe if there's tank specific trinkets that are great

[sick sentinel]

world quests still just seem to decide to give me whatever they feel like and not prot gear

give me a bunch of 2hand weapons instead, i do hafe a purple 372 shield and blue 363 1h weapon for prot though

[open gazelle]

We’ll 381 item level after getting one more matrix this week. Only source of fear now is super rares once a day and siege

[strong forum]

Yes, world quest gear isn't respective to your lootspec

It just gives whatever

[open gazelle]

Gear*

Is siege loot cooldown 1 hour or two hours?

[strong forum]

Pretty sure it's fixed

Can only loot it once per week now

[open gazelle]

No you get a chest everytime you do it

The first is an epic chest, all the rest are blue chest

[blazing condor]

my WQs changed rewards to Primal Chaos after i got higher ilvl. Which kinda sucked cus i was gonna get an upgrade either way

[open gazelle]

Blue chest have a low chance at loot but still worth a try

[mortal brook]

Siege is once per siege cycle now

every 2 hours

can do multiple in that cycle but can spam out every 2 hours for the chest

[mortal brook]

2 hours, lootable once each 2 hour siege

[open gazelle]

Two hours thank you

[mortal brook]

wowhead front page has a countdown for that and soup

or grab a WA tracker

[tender cove]

I found a pretty sick WA tracker yesterday. Tamas todo list. Has tracker for whole week.

Also, how are you mr bear?

[tender cove]

I've missed you a tiny bit, cant lie.

[mortal brook]

❤️

[tender cove]

❤️

[tender cove]

Been waiting to show this to someone LOL... Imagine being woli on prepatch couple days before DF 😄

[mortal brook]

is woliance the benchmark?

[tender cove]

yes

I like him 😄

[mortal brook]

@thorn spruce

[tender cove]

NOOO

[mortal brook]

get rekt

[tender cove]

fml...

[mortal brook]

[warm plinth]

[tender cove]

hahah. I love you too bro xD
❤️

[mortal brook]

i too had an enjoyable prepatch

[tender cove]

damn 😮

Speaking of paladin, how happy would I be rn?

[warm plinth]

[mortal brook]

paladin is gonna perform well

yeah, had 5 posts on the forums, 2 on reddit

[tender cove]

This is just amazing @mortal brook holy fucking shit. You really are my hero for a reason 😄

[mortal brook]

bears fun this patch as well so far

[tender cove]

I have bear inc soon, its 57 😄

[mortal brook]

not total momentum swing but good threat and sustain in the ebgs

[tender cove]

Beside the shape shifting stuff, its pretty fun class tbh

[mortal brook]

not a lot of shifting this patch, staying in bear looks to be best dam

unlike nathria

[granite anvil]

Bear Customisation when?

[mortal brook]

where youd just have your cotank keep the boss the entire time so you could keep rip up

[tender cove]

Ohh noice, i really dont like having 4 different hotkeys depending on wtf shape I am in and some abilities not working in those etc.

hmmm, the tracker WA says there is world boss but I cant see one 😒

[mortal brook]

could reasses your binds tbh. i keep my bear stuff on my bear bar except for stuff that forces bear form like incap roar

world boss next week

[cobalt seal]

Wdym

You dont like to swifch off bear form

Mid pull

And then blame the healer

[mortal brook]

okay you caught me, i am greedy and love sunfire splash when i can

more events for gg

but no boomyvokes anymore, bless

[idle aspen]

Thoughts on what item to craft from spark for PROT?

[royal oriole]

is fueled by violence worth using now over Brutal vitality?

with the recent buff to it

[tender cove]

Yeh but soon as you change shift, it shows an entire new bar. Its annoying.

[mortal brook]

ye, thats the bar for all the form specific stuff!

[craggy pilot]

If we are 380 when this week is over, does it even make sense to clear normal raid before doing M+?

[mortal brook]

if thats how your guild enjoys learning sure. also tier pieces.

ima hop into m+ till raid time tho

[craggy pilot]

im thinking for me specifically

i cant join for guild raid this season cus of scheduling :>

just thinkign if i should pug the raid on Normal before doing M+

but feels like Normal raid will give very few upgrades when we are 380 🤔

[tender cove]

tier, trinkets and upgrade items.

[slim dove]

I'm just gonna do m+ and eventually do normal when my team isn't on

[craggy pilot]

upgrade items?

[slim dove]

but im an unguilded dumby so

[tender cove]

the ones you need for crafted gear.

[craggy pilot]

Primal Chaos?

ohh Primal Infusion

i got you

[tender cove]

From what i understand (Which could be wrong) you have equal to the 150 recipe increase but for raiding.

[craggy pilot]

they drop from M+ also i think? no?

[tender cove]

you can make primal infusion from primal chaos, takes 80x i think

[slim dove]

yeah primal infusions come from m+

key levels over 10 I believe

[craggy pilot]

think ill just spam M+ all day

and do HC raid

but probably wont be invited for HC raid without being 10/10 normal 😄

[mortal brook]

I wouldnt either. Esp since theres only 8 bosses

[slim dove]

Looking at the numbers for normal I don't think it'll be that hard to pug all 8

Basically LFR difficulty tbh

[craggy pilot]

hmm ok 🤔

ill maybe skip on the first week with guild, then do it week 2 with guild

[sand mason]

What’s the story on tier gear this patch? I only play wow for m+ and only do other content to facilitate pushing keys.

Is tier set impactful enough for me to try to grind heroic and get my set?

[modest ivy]

Hi guys, is there any source of theorycraft on embellished gear for prot yet?

[craggy pilot]

no

unfortunately

as Nome said "a lot of them can be hotfixed a good bit, so its hard to say anything from beta"

[warm plinth]

@modest ivy

damnit

lost the reply, sec

this

[modest ivy]

Got it, thanks!

I'm mainly using this to decide which way to go on armorsmith specs

[modest ivy]

The belt you refer to is Unstable Frostfire, right?

[uneven mason]

Tfw you go to craft your shield, get called away..endup coming back and just opening the window and hitting craft without putting the extras in place

Hurray me 386 vers mastery shield

Gonna go kick something now

[jagged pier]

[slim dove]

[jagged pier]

U can just recraft the same piece

[uneven mason]

Yeah I'll endup doing that but work work

Waste of mats

[strong forum]

Re-crafting is alot cheaper

[uneven mason]

It's good that there is a recovery

And I can just keep upgrading it with the titan matrix from m+ right?

[upbeat salmon]

Depends how easy it would be for you to raid, but I'd say it doesn't impact us much for the start of the season

[dusky canopy]

Finally got a titan matrix IV now the question is do I wait for a primal infusion or do I send it

[upbeat salmon]

Unless you plan on jumping in the deep end

Doubt 4% DR is gonna break your keys

[uneven mason]

Can't m+ convert gear to tier anyway

[upbeat salmon]

They can

But it's timegated

[uneven mason]

Huh

Yeah if not raiding

[upbeat salmon]

The only source for tier, for the first 6 weeks is ONLY from the raid. Unless they changed it.

[uneven mason]

That's fine tbh

[upbeat salmon]

Starting week 7, the creation catalyst will open to everyone.

[uneven mason]

This tier bonus is very minute rice

Yeah it's food, but is it really edible

[upbeat salmon]

I don't know about dps specs, but for prot it's "nice"

Defo not must have

[uneven mason]

It's just there

[slim dove]

for arms its pretty absurd

[upbeat salmon]

You get free damage from doing your rotation, which you can min max a bit

But it's not SV4P levels of dps increase

[tender cove]

im stuck under the feast shit... Anyone know how to get out?

[deft vessel]

I can't find any info on simc status for prot war as far as I can see, and I have no clue what to sim with for dungeons X_X

[upbeat salmon]

Just use highest ilvl 😄

[upbeat salmon]

I think you can unstuck your toon from the battlnet page

[stable valve]

You must eat ALL of the soup

[mellow quartz]

You can get tier from the vault as well from any of the available slots potentially.

[weak snow]

i have like 130~ mastery, should i try to dump that last bit in favor of crit/haste/verse? i'd lose 4 ilvls on that one piece.

[tender cove]

mm, that worked. Spent 11 min with the feast, didnt get reward...fml

[sand mason]

Can you get tier pieces from vault even if you’ve only built your vault off m+ runs for the week?

[mellow quartz]

Yes

[deft vessel]

not as clear cut for trinkets

or rings

look at my trinket situation

lol

[sand mason]

How is your scale 376??

[autumn urchin]

weekly quest from citadel area

rewards scale with ilvl

[sweet summit]

that is rng reward, i had chest this week

[autumn urchin]

yea most my friends had no reward at all

[sweet summit]

very epic

[oak ivy]

am in exact same trinket situation atm. i use scale and splinter. between IP and splinter you could actually go afk mid pull

[spring holly]

what ilvl is everyone heading into heroic raid with? I'm at 360 and not sure if I want to care about doing more m0

[deft vessel]

I'm 373 equipped now

and the scale came from a citadel event box

you can keep repeating citadel event, the blue box (every completion after the first rewards a blue box) offers a scalable reward (it's random whether anything drops, but it can drop)

so you can do the event every two hours if you want to fish for gear

[fierce juniper]

u guys wanna see something epic

[upbeat salmon]

good catch i forgot about that one !

[fierce juniper]

[deft vessel]

oh nice

[remote cobalt]

I’m 374 getting 385 drops also and 376-379

[upbeat salmon]

don't go to Neltharus or Ruby with that shield xD

[minor helm]

Genshii cooks

Eyir cooks

[gilded tendon]

Yes chef!

[supple monolith]

Someone told me rubyshell is BiS cant believe its true

[strong forum]

Nothing currently available is bis

The bis stuff comes from raid and m+

[supple monolith]

yeah sure but i mean bis till season beginn

[strong forum]

Namely all-totem of the master, boon, grief torch, whetstone and decoration of flame

Pre-season bis is whatever looks the coolest

And for me that's shark and signoll flare

[supple monolith]

yeah fine thank u

[mellow quartz]

I thought you didn’t like whetstone 🙂

[strong forum]

For pushing keys I'll prolly use rdm + Ruby whelpling or rdm + signoll flare

I hate whetstone

But it's too OP not to use

[safe shale]

What, nobody like kicking balls into the boss?

[strong forum]

That trinket is very strong

But loses to grieftorch and whetstone

[mellow quartz]

Whetstone in ST was quite strong iirc

[strong forum]

Whetstone always does ~400k

Be it aoe or St

Always 300-400k per use

[mellow quartz]

Yeah but % in ST vs % in aoe etc

[strong forum]

Yeah obv its stronger in St than aoe

[mellow quartz]

Mastery stat it just sad

[strong forum]

Yeah...

[bold wave]

the crafted items fucks my mind 😄 cant decide on wich i spend my spark. thinking about weapon or belt with armor spikes or ring

[mellow quartz]

Just wait for m+ then 🤷‍♂️

[solid granite]

392 weapon does rock for quite a while

[mellow quartz]

I made engi bracers myself

[bold wave]

ill get 25 maruuk today too. could upgrade to 405 then

[hardy snow]

RDM, reactive defense matrix, good trinket 😄

[solid granite]

i have yet to do any rep.. oh wait. I wont 😄

[severe hatch]

Does the channel on grieftorch not affect blocking?

[cinder nova]

How do you reliably farm the super rares

Each day no less.

I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing

[uneven mason]

I'm not even bothering to grind myself stupid,

[cinder nova]

Guess I'll just BG

[uneven mason]

It's such a small leg up

[fierce juniper]

https://wago.io/9o2DUdr9t

[cinder nova]

Does it also direct you to them?

[fierce juniper]

no

[uneven mason]

Resisting the urge to level another character

[fierce juniper]

i use SilverDragon to show rares on my map

[uneven mason]

Although, I guess this would be the week to get alts to 70

Before m+ hits

[cinder nova]

addon?

[fierce juniper]

yeah

[cinder nova]

mmh any setup or just a plug n play

[fierce juniper]

mostly plug n play

there are some options i changed but i dont think they were particularly important

[cinder nova]

HOLY FUCK I forgot how dogwater skrims are

so many undergeared players

Just get mauled in two globals

[upbeat salmon]

Where?

[sick sentinel]

removing the silver dragon for rares was a stupid idea unless it was done for colorblind ppl

[cinder nova]

arenas

[upbeat salmon]

I don't think colorblind people have a problem with gray

[tranquil pivot]

any suggestions for crafted item for protwarri?

[sick sentinel]

and even then i don't think gold and grey are 2 colors that frequently get fucked with due to CB

[junior brook]

Is there already a "prio list" on what to craft with the Spark on Ingenuity? Or is the neck something we want aswell?
I couldn't really find anything to it

[sick sentinel]

like, you'd EASILY be able to tell gold and silver dragon apart

even if you were colorblind

[upbeat salmon]

Unless you are truly colourblind

[sick sentinel]

its iconic, you see the silver dragon, you instantly know what it means like a mario mushroom

[cinder nova]

Yes and no, some colorblind people see certain colors as grey, and the right hues can make them indistinguishable

Lots of variance in colorblindness.

[sick sentinel]

there are 3 main types

and they are all impossible to spell and pronounce

[cinder nova]

How the fuck do I read this.

What does orange vs. grey mean

[fierce juniper]

orange means not killed yet (daily)

[feral wing]

Orange is the zone you're in

[fierce juniper]

grey means you're not in the right zone

[feral wing]

Grey is another zone

[sick sentinel]

i learned about this playing battlefield 4

[feral wing]

After you killed one, it's no longer displayed

[upbeat salmon]

Trita looks like the more fun one to me

[cinder nova]

I assume this thing doesn't actually retroactively check if you've killed one or not

[fierce juniper]

it does

[feral wing]

^

[cinder nova]

Mmmm... pretty sure I already killed Snarglebone earlier today

[sick sentinel]

i 60% of the time pass over them

depends what im even doing

[upbeat salmon]

We see in red blue and green correct?

Or is it red blue yellow

Wait...

[sick sentinel]

the one on the left is normal

[cinder nova]

We don't see in RBG. RBG is a form of color display, homie.

[sick sentinel]

and the other is how you would see the world

[upbeat salmon]

Yellow mangeta cyan are the colour receptors in the eye?

[uneven mason]

Reset my friend

[upbeat salmon]

Haaa

Rgb it is

[sturdy sable]

Obviously its BGR

[cinder nova]

That's a... comically gross oversimplification.

[sturdy sable]

It says so right there

[upbeat salmon]

I know it oversimplified

[mellow quartz]

Perfect pwar discussion

[cinder nova]

It's oversimplified to the point of just being wrong for the sake of an easy answer tbh.

Cones are identified by wavelength, not color.

[mellow quartz]

Not #off-topic at all

[sick sentinel]

i have basically this keyboard now

but not the glasses

[upbeat salmon]

U need the glasses bruv

[fierce juniper]

those are the same thing
we perceive certain wavelengths of light as a given color

[sick sentinel]

i got a new KB and its all swanky, each key light is addressable, and hot swappable.

so, i have it orange when not doing anything and green after i touch it, like half life,

[cinder nova]

Different cones are going to be more receptive to a certain kind of wavelength which is going to include multiple colors, not just RBG.

[fierce juniper]

like the "green" cone is mostly sensitive to the wavelength of light that we perceive as green

[uneven mason]

My kid figured out how to make rainbows explode from each keypress on her laptop

[cinder nova]

Depending on the length of the wavelength.

It's actually yellow and green, though?

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2-iorT0xfg

i went with one of these

it came on 50% or so off

[crimson furnace]

The Great Swog moved?

anyone knows where thye are??

[upbeat salmon]

Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy an rtx 4080?

[sick sentinel]

4080 over rate

good, but over rated

[upbeat salmon]

How much is that kb?

[solid granite]

There are more types of colorblindness

[sick sentinel]

its like a harely davidson

do you really fuckin need one

[upbeat salmon]

Yes

They are awesome

[solid granite]

Testosterone vs. Estrogen is another type of colorblindness

[upbeat salmon]

But not the apparel... That's cringey imo

[cinder nova]

DUDE I fucking HATE being sick

[high drum]

YES CHEF

[cinder nova]

I just hacked enough phlegm onto my hand that it looks like slimer was trying to suck my fingers

[lunar edge]

Hi someone know where can get mod for plater for reflect spells?

[sick sentinel]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=383762/bitter-immunity

[lusty tiger]

u need some fkn antibiotics

[open gazelle]

I miss glad stance

[lusty tiger]

or at least musinex god dam

[cinder nova]

Not gonna do anything, it's the flu

[sick sentinel]

hot soup and go outside at some point later

[cinder nova]

And I'm not gonna go to the ER for antivirals unless I'm legit peaking in fever, and I'm tapering my fever off at current

[lusty tiger]

yea if tylenol keeps the fever under control its fine

[cinder nova]

I'll be fine. I got 2 nurses as roommates and they were both top of their class. They gave me about 1000mg of tylenol and it's been clearing up ever since.

[lusty tiger]

that is a good bit

if ur kidneys feel sore need to wreck some water

[sand mason]

He’s progging the fever boys. Down to stage 3

[stark jewel]

hi all, does anyone know if the brutal vitality bug was fixed?

[lyric geode]

Guys, can we do heroic raid with only tanks?

[lusty tiger]

can do all content with only tanks

[lyric geode]

Even mythic?

[cinder nova]

I've been slamming water since I started feeling gross. Been pissing crystal clear for four days.

[lusty tiger]

[vital sinew]

sugar/caffeine is the enemy of piss

[severe steeple]

what do "we" think about https://www.wowhead.com/item=193005/idol-of-the-dreamer and the rest?

[idle idol]

hi, how much ilvls is a socket worth is there any spreadsheet or any info regarding this question ?

[late moss]

hi all

anyone can share prot warr stat pawn??

[vital sinew]

ilvl and haste++

[oak echo]

you should stop using pawn in roughly 3 expansions ago

[lyric geode]

Haste/critical

Also, I believe you increase your critical % much more than versa. So it is more dmg too

About survivibility, we have enough.

[remote cobalt]

How can I look up the ideal % I need for each

[cinder nova]

There is none.

[lyric geode]

Someone please tell me.

How much increase % does 100 versa gives , and how much % increase does 100 critical gives.

[cinder nova]

Crit is more damage with less survival, Vers is more survival less damage. It's almost irrelevant which order you pick them in, but if you wanna parse monkey go crit first.

[lyric geode]

So, I was corrent. Haste/Critical

[cinder nova]

For the wrong reasons.

[tall cedar]

guys is it worth to craft shield of hearth 405 ilvl?

with spending spark

[lyric geode]

?

Obviously, if you are between 500 haste and 100 versa. And 300 haste and 300 critical. You ALWAYS pick 500 haste and 100 versa.

[oak echo]

doing napkin math it's 180 crit per 1 % and 205 vers per 1% dam

[lyric geode]

so it is like 10% less dmg overall.

[cinder nova]

STR >> Haste > Crit=Vers > Mast

Overall you're still taking ilvl over everything because STR is king. Even if the secondaries are dogshit. The only time you're making a choice not based around ilvl is rings and necks where STR is absent, and even then only within like... 3-6 ilvls depending on the weight of each piece you're comparing.

[edgy grail]

No

[prisma crane]

lol probably event further back than that

[edgy grail]

The value changes based on how much you have

[idle idol]

bump

[lyric geode]

Of course , we are talking about same ilvl and same strength stats.

[edgy grail]

Adding 500 haste when you have 2000 is not the same as adding 500 haste when you have 1000 haste

[cinder nova]

Do whatever you want, it's kind of unimportant what people are doing with mats and craftables until after M+ season breaks.

[tall cedar]

some guy wants 75k fee for 405 ilvl shield of hearth . Is it worth or not?

[edgy grail]

The value changes based on all your other stats

[cinder nova]

The DR on haste is so low that it hardly matters unless you're pushing the extreme upper bounds.

Plus we get flat haste % bonuses anyway

[lyric geode]

No, more haste means less GCD. Lets GCD is more buttons pressed per minute. More buttons pressed per minute more survivibility and damage. More damage, more tendies.

[edgy grail]

Its not about DR I’m talking shout the nature of how stats interact

[cinder nova]

Not nearly to the extreme you're thinking.

You need so much haste to get actual non-fractional GCD returns.

It's genuinely irrelevant. Your play is going to decide your capability for an enormous amount of content, not your gear.

[edgy grail]

No thats stupid

[lyric geode]

True, but it isnt nice to have like 5% haste.

[edgy grail]

Because with say more crit each gcd is worth more

[cinder nova]

It doesn't matter, trust me.

There's no breakpoint.

[edgy grail]

You cant just look at it like that

They need to all be considered at the same time not in isolation

Thats why you sim

[cinder nova]

What is this copium from the FOTM kids.

[idle idol]

https://gyazo.com/0908bc5478f9c597ad6f1d727de72259

[lyric geode]

I am not FOTM kid.

[idle idol]

is the socket worth ?

[lyric geode]

I play protection warrior all of Shadowlands. From season 1 and upwards.

[prisma crane]

tbh, you guys just need to stop overcomplicating it, get highest ilvl first, then ideally have haste w/o mastery, done

[cinder nova]

☝️

[prisma crane]

if you REALLY want to min/max, just fucking sim yourself, stop trying to preplan shit

[lyric geode]

mastery is so good. /s

[sick sentinel]

75k xd too much

[cinder nova]

It's really, really not that hard. If you weren't parsing the upper 1%, your gear wont suddenly make you a chad.

[lyric geode]

True, but it can make your life easier.

[prisma crane]

not really

[cinder nova]

Not gonna fix bad play.

So no.

[lyric geode]

Also, there is no point of comparing RN. No m+ or raids are up.

[cinder nova]

You need actualy clownshoes S4 meme amounts of stat to see that.

[lusty tiger]

haste = go through more rage = more CDR

[lyric geode]

All we talk about is hypothetical

[prisma crane]

no

sims back it up

we know that STR is the best for us

[sick sentinel]

80% crit arms in m+ i like retard stats

[edgy grail]

Math is fake anyway

[lyric geode]

Yes

[vital sinew]

Numbers are bullshit

[prisma crane]

we know that haste is very good defensively and offensively

[sick sentinel]

Obv mainstst over everything

[prisma crane]

we know that mastery gives us relatively little value

[edgy grail]

If there were no humans would earth still be the 3rd planet?

[sick sentinel]

Mastery good into physical

[prisma crane]

that's all you need to know, you dont need to overcomplicate gear choices

[sick sentinel]

Just take ilvl

[prisma crane]

except not really, not over the other benefits we get from other secondaries because we already can easily maintain 100% block

[lyric geode]

!

Also mastery's AP is dogshit

[cinder nova]

Mastery is only as "good" as the other stats because the actual gap between each in terms of weight is shockingly low, and combined with how strong STR is, it's why we lean into ilvl above everything else.

[late moss]

so nobody could gave me proper pawn yet 🙂

[cinder nova]

STR is uber stronk and mastery is "good enough" that even a completely dogshit weighted 411 warrior will clown if they know what they're doing

It'll just feel awful to play

[prisma crane]

dont use it, easy

[late moss]

for sure I know what is the mandatory stats

[lusty tiger]

simcraft

[crimson furnace]

The Great Swog moved? anyone knows the new location?

[late moss]

I asked for pawn string

[lusty tiger]

simcraft

[prisma crane]

no one uses pawn

[cinder nova]

You're blasting your foot off with pawn.

Actual waste of time.

[lusty tiger]

lets all sing it together

[lyric geode]

Guys, how to check APM in details?

[vital sinew]

Dont weight stats, just sim

[lusty tiger]

log

[prisma crane]

if you want a string, you have to make one yourself based on info we gave you, but just know that no one uses it here, and there's a reason for it, it's not necessary

[sinful root]

What do you even look for in a sim on tanks?

[vital sinew]

zug zug dam

[prisma crane]

at a basic level (which is what pawn does) gearing is extremely non-complicated for us

if you want more detail, simming will always be WAY better anyways

[prisma crane]

can only sim for damage

simming for surv would require encounter specific sims

[sinful root]

Ok ty

[cinder nova]

Honestly I've almost only ever simmed for rings, trinkets, and necks.

[late moss]

I got lost literally.. So want me to do sim for a tank but I have no idea which items should I use..

[cinder nova]

barring the odd socket item or two

[prisma crane]

you can just have it sim all items in your bags, but again, just delete all items that arent top ilvl first

then delete all items that have mastery without haste

[late moss]

alreadyt did

[prisma crane]

congratulations, you're probably geared well enough

enjoy playing the game

i'm only half sarcastic here too, you really don't need to sim, at all, unless you're looking to push top parses

[late moss]

I am nott asking for compare, I am just wondering which stats should I go always (dont tell me crit/haste) and sim is not a good way to balance a tank spec

[prisma crane]

ok so you're asking for an answer but wont accept our answer

[solar blade]

did i read pawn? man thats some legion shit

[prisma crane]

we cant help you then

[cinder nova]

What the actual fuck am I reading.

[prisma crane]

it wasnt even good in legion lol

[cinder nova]

Yeah, why don't you want us to tell you haste/crit?

[solar blade]

true but i know it since then

[late moss]

for sure I accept whatever you are giving me..

[cinder nova]

Maybe let's hear that logic first, bud.

[prisma crane]

if ALL you care about is surviving then go haste>vers on highest ilvl items and call it a day

it's really not complicated

[solar blade]

gearscore>hast>vers=crit>mastery

[ocean prairie]

Guys do you think the Wrathion farm is worth it? Has anyone done it post nerf? The back has bis stats

[cinder nova]

Yeah, sorry mate, you aren't impressing anyone with your sweat.

[cinder nova]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Any farm you do is gonna get dumpstered in like one week of S1 and raid.

[prisma crane]

worth is a matter of personal choice, it'll get replaced relatively soon come M+/raids, so it's up to you

[cinder nova]

If you got nothing better to do, do it.

[ocean prairie]

Well its 389 right?

[prisma crane]

398

[solar blade]

im glad ive farmed the cobalt ass. ring pre nerf! that thang just does crazy dps

[ocean prairie]

That's not bad

[prisma crane]

don't get me wrong, it's good, but it takes a lot of time

which is why it's up to you

[ocean prairie]

Does anyone know how much time it takes?

[prisma crane]

we can't tell you if something is worth your time or not

like 5 hours last i heard, but that was i believe pre-nerf

[solar blade]

its not worth if youre asking in a discord my man

[edgy grail]

^^^

[mellow quartz]

16 hour grind or something

In groups

[ocean prairie]

Ouch, i grinded the cobalt ring and thought it was worth it, this is probably too much time

[vital sinew]

Nah, if you stack greys and play correctly, its closer to 3-5

[lyric geode]

Btw, can you disenchant the wrathion's epics?

[vital sinew]

Depends on how populated the assembly area is

[lyric geode]

that would be dope

[solar blade]

if i had to grind it post nerf, id think twice seriously haha

[prisma crane]

doubtful

[ocean prairie]

Dunno i did it pre nerf

[mellow quartz]

For wrathion?

[vital sinew]

oh sorry, not wrath

My bad

[edgy grail]

No point imo

Chill now

And save your 16 hours for next week

[mellow quartz]

Wrathion is 100% not worth if you have to ask if it’s worth.

[edgy grail]

Ez

[ocean prairie]

Ok so 16 hours more of m+ next week, understood

[vital sinew]

Real gamers are next week.

[mellow quartz]

If it was worth it for you you would already know.

[prisma crane]

imo, wrathion is only worth if you also want the black dragon form, which also imo is ruined because they're just brown

[solar blade]

trinket wise does anyone else trust bloodmallet over wowhead/icy?

[prisma crane]

trinkets you really just have to sim yourself

[mellow quartz]

Just sim them

Also what’s your use case for trinkets between raid and m+

[solar blade]

okay because ruby welpling trinket is said to be S on wowhead, i have it at 372 and it does like 200k a dungeon

[prisma crane]

that trinket is super RNG

[solar blade]

okay, gonna keep it for now

[prisma crane]

plus iirc you have to use that 24 hr CD on an enemy to bias towards doing damage, i'm not positive if that's been confirmed though

[solar blade]

i dont know either..also the tests that have been made by wowhead people arent that great in terms of useful results

[sick sentinel]

I mean its too early to tell

M0 dies in 5 seconds

[solar blade]

yeah it sure is

[tender quartz]

Yay I got my shield to 392 with a proc 😊

[prisma crane]

tbh i have a feeling that ruby whelpling has potential in pvp (if it's not nerfed) just because it doesn't hit often but when it does it's bursty AF

[lyric relic]

doesn’t it give main stat too?

[prisma crane]

yes

[lyric relic]

or secondary stat or something

[prisma crane]

mainstat

[lyric relic]

idk how to get it to proc AOE spells though

[prisma crane]

does it? i thought it either heals or does like a fireball thing

[patent hull]

you can continue to recraft the shield with better embellishments right, I made mine early not even highest quality

[lyric relic]

yeah it does either a ST spell or an AOE one

[solar blade]

it does fire lob-something

[lyric relic]

i haven’t gotten it to do the AOE one yet

yeah

[solar blade]

so st and aoe yes

[lyric geode]

how to check the procs? Any guide about the crafted gear?

Cant seem to find it in icy-veins

[patent hull]

Haven't seen a prot warrior specific crafted gear guide but there's some general ones on wowhead.

[ionic fern]

It's coming. 🙂

#protection message

[reef haven]

so can I just waste the current spark on whatever?

or should I save

[mellow quartz]

You can upgrade any item you make later so it’s not a waste.

[jovial birch]

So I literally have all the one hand weapons and all the shields out of MO should I still craft a weapon or shield with my spark or upgrade something else that is lacking because I have weapons out the ass.

[reef haven]

what if I choose the wrong slot now tho

[thick ore]

What is the rotation to do the most damage when Avatar is active and 8+ mobs. Is it better to revenge spam and fill with shield slam after the first thunderclap?

[sick sentinel]

is life pools boss 1 trinket good for us

shell

[jovial birch]

BiS I believe

[sick sentinel]

it got traded away now, but, incase i see it again

[mellow quartz]

To bad then. You will get another spark every 2 weeks until you have 5 though.

[rugged root]

Thunderous roar and that ravaged ability too

[neon elk]

Whats best buff from ritual shell for us ?

[thick ore]

Sorry, minus those abilities too. With everything off CD, was curious when to revenge spam vs fill with thunderclap

[mellow quartz]

If you just wanna do max damage then TC > revenge during aoe and avatar.

[thick ore]

Thanks @mellow quartz

[jovial birch]

Yeah thunder claps CD is reduced and damage is increased during avatar. Thunderclap those cheeks off.

[rugged root]

Spam revenge and clap when procs

Right?

[thick ore]

Just so many opportunities for the double revenge hits. I was wondering

[mellow quartz]

TC does more damage than revenge (including the 30% extra damage) during avatar and as long as you have sufficient rage via bloodsurge to sustain the TC and revenge spam you are good.

[prisma crane]

fwiw a shield is always a solid choice for us, and worst case you get a nice mog from it

[reef haven]

Thanks for input, I'm just gonna save a bit longer because I'm playing dual spec so gotta compromise between both specs

[prisma crane]

ah, yea then probably bracers iirc

[languid mirage]

best crafted item to use our ingenuity this week?

[prisma crane]

heard their proc is good

there's also that JC neck

[jovial birch]

Anyone know what the proc rate is like on the 384 ilvl pvp crafted helm.

[sick sentinel]

got just now

[jovial birch]

Grats!

[prisma crane]

i do not, but i heard the net benefit from the bracers was better

[granite nest]

Aside from it being 382, is the Alchemist Stone a high performing trinket for us?

Seems good, but is the strength uptime reasonable?

[sweet summit]

it's 2rppm

[slim dove]

3.5ppm

Worth 500dps

[mellow quartz]

The haste alchemy stone is probably the better of the 2

[prisma crane]

whoa, new alch stone just straight up can keep your phial up forever?

that's kinda cool

[marble cipher]

During Ava, in aoe, if rage gen is no issue (which it usually isn't), and without a prio target, should we use SS when possible, or nah?

[granite nest]

Thank you

[sick sentinel]

accidently wiped us on boss 2 life pools

mythic mode, i thought the boss would despawn if i moved it too much, and i didn't put boss on adds, someone said to do so, i think it makes those adds easy to kill is why

other than that, like, 3 deaths whole run

[languid mirage]

which crafted item would benefit us the greatest right now?

[solar crown]

is reset the same for eu and us now? so, thursdays?

tuesdays*

[granite nest]

EU is Wed

[solar crown]

oh, ok

[limpid anchor]

The whole point of the boss is to move them in a circle

[sick sentinel]

EU is weird

they call potatoe chips "crisps"

[mellow quartz]

That is not the EU it’s the UK

[limpid anchor]

Eu, the big country

[drifting fable]

lmao

[sick sentinel]

same thing innit

[drifting fable]

oh yogi

[mellow quartz]

Nope they left

[limpid anchor]

Are you drunk?

[drifting fable]

they only wish

[minor helm]

[oak echo]

You ever read a yogi post and think "this has to be a character"

[minor helm]

Day in the life of a brexit geezer

[sick sentinel]

EUropian Kingdom,

im fairly sure

[limpid anchor]

I’m not sure if you are trying to make a joke or not

[cobalt seal]

he is always drunk

it's his nature

[limpid anchor]

Thought so. Thanks for confirmation

[sick sentinel]

a bit yes, but besides germany cant think of one eu country top of head

maybe spain or somethin, italy

[limpid anchor]

Already 3, nice

[cobalt seal]

is this to try and prove that NA education is shit?

[drifting fable]

eh no need to prove that one

[loud patrol]

why, we already know that

[sick sentinel]

im not very smart with geography, nor politics, nor history

[cobalt seal]

or wow

or or

[minor helm]

[limpid anchor]

But tbh, I don’t know many states in America either

[minor helm]

I got burgies in between my ears too

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7uOqlIhUk

[strong forum]

Arkansas which is pronounced arkensaw which makes no fucking sense

[sick sentinel]

creepy pasta lite

[strong forum]

Murica

[sick sentinel]

but, it seems like it has some kind of origins,

[limpid anchor]

That seems stupid

[minor helm]

When you love guns so much you just combine another states name with guns

[sick sentinel]

like, i could see thise mimal thing being real

[lusty tiger]

Imagine having a Florida education

[minor helm]

Ok wait a minute

That’s too specific

[lusty tiger]

Why

[drifting fable]

well to be fair..

[minor helm]

Ur targeting me

[lusty tiger]

I am one as well

Fellow Florida man

[slim cipher]

What about Florida education ? 😅 (from Eu, so not targeted but curious )

[lusty tiger]

It is shit

[drifting fable]

its uh pretty bad compared to the rest of the country

[sick sentinel]

my dk friend is florid man and is toxic lol

[drifting fable]

spending wise and metric wise

[lusty tiger]

Regular day in loxahachee

[minor helm]

Man none of my friends really believe gators are chill

[sick sentinel]

he was raging at some warrior for doing low dps in mythic life pools after pulling entire dungeon, then kicks him before final boss

ugh

[vital sinew]

Havent lived till you see bushes staring back at you

[loud patrol]

lmao vote kick him but say nothing

[sick sentinel]

he's typical dk main angry boy

[loud patrol]

a piece of shit

[sick sentinel]

pretty much yeah

[drifting fable]

yeah i wouldnt queue with or call anyone a friend who does that

[loud patrol]

same

also plays a dk beta class

[sick sentinel]

dk is pretty good overall

[lusty tiger]

The Everglades bois is fucking terrifying

[loud patrol]

heroic classes divide into arthas fanboys/illidan fanboys and scalies

[lusty tiger]

Imagine grass you can swim in but also has invasive pythons and regular gators living in it

No telling how deep the “grass” is

[drifting fable]

id rather not

[sick sentinel]

i usually pull trash at a normal rate and apologize if i think i screwed something up, but i can get angry sometimes too

usually alt f4

[lusty tiger]

Usually I hit them with the “bro wtf are you even doing”

And they never know (obviously) lol

[loud patrol]

lol

[lusty tiger]

Ya know, the players who spend more time walking back then actually pressing buttons, and die on first phase of every boss

The typical quiet pug

[limpid anchor]

As I tell a new tank in my guild, don’t stop running, always keep pulling!

Mana is the healers problem, not yours

[sick sentinel]

its my problem when i or the dps, or the healer dies

and then healer starts yelling at me

it then bcomes my problem

[limpid anchor]

Doesn’t matter, keep pulling

[lusty tiger]

Pug healers roll heals to get carried

What do they know

[ebon sun]

Man, I am ROLLING in trinkets and I'm kind of sad about it.

[lusty tiger]

They just want fastest queues = fastest loot

[sick sentinel]

what is our preffered deck

i'd have to wow token but thought about looking at the watchers or fire deck maybe

[deft hazel]

was doing ruby life pool and ended up getting 1 shot by last boss

[sick sentinel]

i may not need one, with i picked up the literal 420 blaze it haste trinket

[loud patrol]

ur healer fault

[sick sentinel]

yeah, i did just fine on last boss

first boss was a breeze too

[ebon sun]

Is Forgestorm simbait for ST, btw?

359 Forgestorm simming better than a 372 Spellbane on ST patchwerk

[sick sentinel]

oh, we had 2 warlocks, that probably explains why the run went so well

[spring coyote]

which phial we using for raiding / tyranical?

[deft hazel]

okay i was worried after seeing i got hit for 250k

[sick sentinel]

sorry, not 2 warlocks THREE

[lusty tiger]

They are immortal

[loud patrol]

also use defensives lmao

[sick sentinel]

i joined some locks group and he said he wanted to "2/3 stack armor for loot" invites 2 more warlocks

[loud patrol]

people doesnt read the dungeon journal until they get 1 shot by a 300k ability

[lusty tiger]

Well why would you before then haha

[deft hazel]

not gonna work all the time when im sitting 5 stack most of the end of the fight

[limpid anchor]

Prob didn’t get a dispel

[sick sentinel]

there is alot of them adds on boss 1 life pools

they come in 2 or 3 waves, like 3-5 at a time

[deft hazel]

telling me i didnt read the dungeon journal, i know why i died, not much i can do about it tho with zero dispels

[lusty tiger]

Take the dispel talent I guess

Or be a dwarf

Or tell them b4hand

[sick sentinel]

bitter immune wont work if its a magic

[loud patrol]

many solutions

[sick sentinel]

that doesn't handle magic effets but it does curses

curses are hard to get rid of

[lusty tiger]

Ahh they removed the magic dispel huh

[limpid anchor]

Long ago

Making the talent useless now :)

Well, except in 2 dungeons I guess

[sick sentinel]

no

[deft hazel]

tell me the solutions

[sick sentinel]

only uselss if ur not a dwarf