protection

[sick sentinel]

protection warrior has 650% increased threat

[tropic gorge]

Oh. Shit. Yes.

[oak echo]

all tanks do

[paper coral]

@sick sentinel all tanks get that

[sick sentinel]

what if im out dposing the other tanks

yh i know.

[radiant locust]

20 first week first seasons seems a bit tough

If people is timing the 20's first weeks we could expect 30-35 for the S1 maybe

[sick sentinel]

i know all tanks have 650% im saying if im going pure dps build will i take aggro

[tender cove]

Is there some WA for dungeons? Like the "super secret shadowlands dungeon pack" ?

[mellow quartz]

You have to do a shit ton more damage

[oak echo]

unless your other tank is afk, no

[sick sentinel]

cool

[oak echo]

your other tank better be going dps too

[tropic gorge]

I've had agro ripped from me, but that requires a massive ilvl gap

Like a huge, entire tier gap

[sick sentinel]

from a dps or a tank?

[mellow quartz]

It’s what, 20% more to pull aggro from melee?

[tender cove]

This happens regularly in pug raiding. Its a skill issue for the most part.

[tropic gorge]

Tank. During sl I ran with a warrior guy in a pug that had a lot of ilvl on me, dude would outright rip it and I couldn't do anything about it lol

[mellow quartz]

Yes obviously

[sick sentinel]

ngl im prob gonna double the other tanks dps they are pretty casual, obviously or they wouldnt let a prot war go dps lol

[strong forum]

threshold to take threat is 110% in melee range 130% in outside of melee range

[mellow quartz]

You will pull aggro then 100%

[sick sentinel]

meh that kinda sucks i dont wanna play fury/arms in vers/haste gear and tank trinkits etc

[mellow quartz]

Guess they can taunt on CD

Increased aggro generation during the 3s after taunt

[tender cove]

i cant remember if its 3 or 5 but do that within a minute to the same target and they go taunt immune

[deft hazel]

I pulled so much in uldaman and almost died. Idk if I'm playing right

[tropic gorge]

3 iirc

[mellow quartz]

Are you talking 2 tanking or you wanted to be prot with 2 other tanks in the raid?

[tropic gorge]

That may have changed and I missed it

[lucid dew]

Does anyone know the two bis embellishments

The shield seems sick and so does the versa stack on the blacksmith armor

[nova cosmos]

How good is blue silk lining for us? I heard it's around 1k mastery

[toxic pewter]

I hear the helm may be nice, im actually worried the helm might be best and my engi goggle were a mistake 😮

i think flame thrower aoe is uncapped i just did a million damage on 10ish mobs

in 6 seconds

[tropic gorge]

Holy shit

[toxic pewter]

but the 10 min cooldown is a big downside

[tropic gorge]

So, do really, really big pulls:)

[toxic pewter]

Yah I think if everyone in a group has a flamethrower it could be kinda cool

[paper coral]

why versa and not haste?

[lusty tiger]

Is asmongold going to get prot warrior nerfed all my friends r telling me it’s op

[strong forum]

every tank is OP

like

lmao

[lusty tiger]

Good

The way it should be

Attracts 5head dps players

[paper coral]

It comes down to preference of playstyle.

Nome, can we speak about BRM? Is their lack of self sustain compared to other tanks possibly an issue? I've spoken with healers and for M0s they dont like BRM because they actually have to heal them.

I asume that will change in higher content as far as everybody needing to be healed

[uneven mason]

Tfw literally the subject you'd heard about warriors

[next burrow]

Can emblelishments be recrafted? Thinking to use my spark on a shield not sure if its a good idea

[uneven mason]

Every X-Pac before df

[paper coral]

lol trueee

[uneven mason]

BRM is slapping right now

[tropic gorge]

Don't take much of anything a streamer or YouTube person says terribly seriously

[sick sentinel]

i enjoyed 9.3 BRM

nf

[tropic gorge]

Not all of them are always wrong, but most of them are wrong 100 percent of the time

[paper coral]

totally anecdotally, I ws doing a WQ last night and a 370+ BRM pulled a bunch of mobs and was super low HP and trying to run away and I popped in as my 364 self, aoe taunted and cleared the pack and my HP didn't move.

I realize that doesn't translate to ANYTHING in real content

but it was kind of surprising

[uneven mason]

They have to press buttons and sadly BRM mains are not used to pressing buttons

[mellow quartz]

Watch the buttons he presses. Legit a just spams all his buttons at random.

[paper coral]

I liked MOP BRM. I like a super smooth damage intake. Its why i like prot warrior now. I think druid might be the same, it's my next char.

[hollow mesa]

does anyone have an IP wa that doesnt throw a shit ton of lua errors and crash my ui lol. all of the ones I can find on wago throw errors

[mellow quartz]

Wago.io and go to prot warriors

[uneven mason]

Why track ip

[tired pivot]

is there any near BiS item from crafted gear?

[lusty tiger]

Yea I told them if they nerfed leech or whatever it wouldn’t even matter to real prot gamers

[uneven mason]

Crafted gear is op

[hollow mesa]

..... I just said all I can find on wago throw errors. would love a link to one that someone currently uses and can verify doesnt. maybe its something in my addons causing it but I dont think so. im specifically looking for some sort of indicator whether its capped or when its not up

[uneven mason]

Ok but why

[mellow quartz]

There is an IP WA in the pins

[tender cove]

I use noms WA package. Its bit wide for most setups but it works and no errors.

[hollow mesa]

thank you!

[mellow quartz]

Tracking IP is good to see how much is left on it before a big hit for example.

[tender cove]

https://wago.io/RwQjeeIek/27

[hollow mesa]

found it. but thanks!

I see what you mean about being a bit wide lol

[tender cove]

yeh, i honestly cover that under my bars cuz its so wide but I like the overall feel so i stick with it

[hollow mesa]

@candid path the new infographic page on wowhead is super cool, but might be worth adding weapon enchants/consumables to that page also?

[modern brook]

IDT llarold designed the infographic fwiw

as in the actual layout of it

[hollow mesa]

oh rip. mb lol

[dusty prairie]

are armor spikes any good as an embelishment?

not sure of proc chance

[orchid torrent]

hey dudes, when should i refresh shield block? 2 secs left?

[slim dove]

1-1.5% of my overall dmg in a world tour

absolute doggy dog shit

[dusty prairie]

oof

[sick sentinel]

1.5% is a lot higher than mine

[modern brook]

shieldlbock just stakcs, it doesnt pandemic

[sick sentinel]

Was like 0.5% for me

[modern brook]

and with rec'd talents 100% uptime is not only feasible its expected

[sick sentinel]

Get the food enhance packet

[toxic pewter]

just did a uldaman m0 flame thrower was 5% of my overall damage, 2 casts done, not a great 2nd pull either

[modern brook]

so the short answer here is really "it doesnt matter just keep it up"

[sick sentinel]

It’s goated

[orchid torrent]

oh really? so i just use it whenever i can and not waste it?

[modern brook]

yeahp

I think it caps at 3x duration?

[orchid torrent]

right right

makes it much more easy

[modern brook]

but actually hitting that is pretty hard to do naturally

[orchid torrent]

thnks!

[modern brook]

np

[dusty prairie]

ya ill most likely just grab this, though might recraft for it later, might try to inspire proc 402 shield instead

[next burrow]

what did u prot wars spend ur sparks on?

[lucid dew]

I don’t know what we are supposed to craft

I’m thinking about engi items for tinkers too

[ocean bloom]

yeah i think its actually impossible to hit cap, unless they add a way to gain SB thats not from bolster/SB button

[modern brook]

the Bolster bonus also increases the cap too

[ocean bloom]

yeah

[modern brook]

And Shield charge is the only method i can think of

which agian probably isnt getting you to cap

[ocean bloom]

well you can doubled SB + SC but thats still not going to overcap

[toxic pewter]

yah better to wait and save spark

[lucid dew]

My hypothesis is 2 engi items and the 2 bis embellishments whatever those end up being

The shield and BS belt look good

[toxic pewter]

yah thats basically wat im aiming for currently got my goggles today

the embellished helm may end up being good

so not sure what happens with that in regards to goggles

[lucid dew]

I think the helm is the same proc as belt

[toxic pewter]

oh cool then

[lucid dew]

Checking now

The shield looks good though

[dusty prairie]

shield of the hearth right?

or primal molten with an embelish?

[toxic pewter]

plate pants seem good just get more haste

[lucid dew]

Shit it’s wrists not belr

Belt

But tier

Can’t take pants and helm

[toxic pewter]

yeah prob true

[dusty prairie]

which shield were you referring to btw since there are 2 BS ones

[lucid dew]

The one with the proc

Shield of the hearth

[dusty prairie]

ah, was wondering since you can't embelish that one and was wondering if maybe an embelished primal molten was what you were talking about

[lucid dew]

No it has an embellishment built in

That counts towards one of your two

[dusty prairie]

o it counts as one? thought it was just a equip effect

[lucid dew]

Unstable frost fire belt could be good in mplus

Nope it counts

[dusty prairie]

might try and craft a quality 4 one of that one then if primal moltens embelishments are lackluster

[lucid dew]

I think the only embellishment that could be good is armor spikes

[dusty prairie]

i asked a bit earlier but a lot responded saying it wasnt doing to well

so guessing hearth is the better

[lucid dew]

Yea I heard that too

Can’t go wrong with versa

[loud patrol]

food buff bis

perfect for prog

[lucid dew]

Why it just saves gold

[loud patrol]

yeah

gold spec bis spec

[lucid dew]

Haha

Look at the neck

Could be good as well

More stats

[loud patrol]

i like the helm

[nova cosmos]

Do we know if optional embellishments stack if you have more than one of the same?

[sick sentinel]

Death Knight Blood: Fixed an issue with Voracious increasing Death Strike's minimum heal by more than intended.

rip bdk

[marble gulch]

Sorry if already answered but i cant find it on pins, we going damage or shield ring?

[drifting pewter]

They're still probably pretty good no?

[sick sentinel]

my dk main friend is QQ'ing about dk nerfed dmg alot

he complains they nerfed the damage too much

[mellow quartz]

Doesn’t matter. If the minimum healing was ever used they are not in danger.

[sick sentinel]

but he enjoys dk over anything else

[weary python]

Which would you guys use?

[mellow quartz]

Ilvl

[sick sentinel]

this

[weary python]

Ty

[fallow osprey]

and you can save some copper....

[sick sentinel]

damnit, i need to buy another gem for my helmet

some point

[toxic pewter]

arent u on area 52 or am i wrong yogi

[sick sentinel]

i am on that realm yeah

[toxic pewter]

nice

[sand drum]

since when is this a think 🤔 ?

[sick sentinel]

dammit, i missed the sale on the services

[loud patrol]

agi plate class leaked?!?!?!

[sick sentinel]

i was wanting to use them to change race

it was like a flash sale, 72 hours or less when it came around in november

[drifting fable]

im sure there will be a christmas sale

[sick sentinel]

yeah cuz like, i wanna send my 60 warlock to alliance server, and do a bit of race rerolls overall

[toxic pewter]

that agi plate gear for the new dracthyr tank coming

[rotund thicket]

how good are the Armor Spikes enchant?

[dusty prairie]

bad from what i've been told

[rotund thicket]

what else should we take then?

[sick sentinel]

i had a 2hand sword int drop earlier for me

[dusty prairie]

could craft a piece of gear with one on it already or maybe food buff to save gold?

[uneven mason]

Same big mads

[rotund thicket]

gold doesnt matter, asking for actual combat power @strong forum any suggestions?

[dusty prairie]

example of gear with one on it

[lyric geode]

I dont understand. Why there is tank gear with agility. Does agility give anything?

[dusty prairie]

not for warriors i believe?

[paper coral]

dont tease me lol

[tidal pelican]

The name is "antiquity". Likely meant to be a throwback to old wow when gear basically had random stats on it

[strong forum]

youre better off with the helmet or neck

instead of armor spikes

if you want big value

but yeah that shield is also good

[paper coral]

helmet or neck from what, crafting?

[lyric geode]

Is there a guide about crafting? And what spot is the best?

[lyric geode]

Ah, I remember now. When agility gave critical.

[blazing condor]

25k dps in dungeons with 345 feels good

[thorny stone]

the pvp helmet?

[strong forum]

yes

[paper coral]

aoe, yeah?

[blazing condor]

its like 90k on aoe

[strong forum]

that one was the best on beta

[blazing condor]

25k overall

[thorny stone]

omw to make a craft order

[paper coral]

Oh, hell yeah.

[fierce field]

I feel bad that I went with the engi hat now 😦

[sick sentinel]

Is there any optimal guide to spend the "new dinnars" ? aka sparks

[deft mortar]

question:

If I solo a M+ will I have a 20% probability of getting loot or 100%?

[limpid anchor]

#pvp

[paper coral]

Oh, you guys are talking about https://www.wowhead.com/spell=367617/infurious-helm-of-vengeance ?

What neck?

[sick sentinel]

says helmet

[barren socket]

prot actually feels really busted in bgs lmao

[somber shell]

haha, just too strong?

[ionic fern]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=193001/elemental-lariat#created-by-spell

This neck

It's the most busted out of them all so far.

[paper coral]

Ahh, ok, so my first spark should go to either helm or neck probably?

[pallid quiver]

Mine's going helm because it's one of two slots that are not at least 372 at this point

convenient it was on an actually decent slot to craft for

[paper coral]

I dont think I have a 372 helm yet either. should i use a titan matrix on it? the big one.

[pallid quiver]

But neck, helm, shield, and engi bracers are the four things I've seen people regularly craft

[strong forum]

can safely use the matrix we got this week for free

i sued it for sword

[vernal vale]

Damn, that's a fantastic neck. Maybe I delay engineering goggles a few weeks.

[strong forum]

ez 382 weapon

[vernal vale]

I went with shield because I couldn't get drops

[pallid quiver]

wait what free matrix?

damn im out of the loop

[vernal vale]

Had a 372 weapon and only a 340 something shield. So I made a shield.

[sturdy sable]

Free matrix? From where

Who do i have to blow

[paper coral]

I got the shield from neltharus. My weap is 343 tho.

[worldly ember]

i want a free matrix too 😄

[tropic gorge]

Time to grind my warrior to cap. I might get a tank spot in my guild this season, kinda hyped

[stone condor]

What are good professions for a tankwarry or is it personal preference ?

[earnest shoal]

i found warrior herbalism is pretty good with the windswept herbs - heroic leap saved me a few times xd

[tired pivot]

which of the 2 crafted shields looks better for us?

[solar sandal]

is it pretty decided we're not taking helm for tier later down the road? is that why everyoen's crafting helm?

was looking at the blood mallet sim gear and it's also using crafted belt?

[potent gulch]

guys, i wonder about wowhead guide. it says i should use ruby whelp trinket as if it is bis.
but it doesn't seem siming good

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gBJGApyDfFbm98woLL68Tx

[wispy kite]

yeah where do we get this free matrix lmao

[strong forum]

It's also saying that scale does more than Ruby whelp which is hilariously wrong

I had teh Arena World quest with a free titan matrix

[dusty prairie]

is blood of the khansguard good to use? 899 primary for party seems neat

[strong forum]

I think it's just a case of Ruby whelp not being implemented really well

It's only armor for your party

Not the primary

[dusty prairie]

o

nvm then

[worldly ember]

been proccing crit alot with the welp

[dusty prairie]

the "and" being in there threw me off

[strong forum]

It should say additionally it grants armor to your party

Look at craft

See empty slots

Look what empty slot offers

Find matrix to put into slot

Yes

Same fucking thing

Go check out how a craft order works

It shows you everything you need to know

Literally just talk to dude, click on item you want and it will explain itself

[potent gulch]

so i should belive in guie

alright

[strong forum]

If that trinket procced mainstat to the party it would be the most broken trinket in the game

Every healer and tank would use it 24/7

Maybe even dps

[worldly ember]

gotta love it when your rare drops you a 385 with good secondary stats

[sturdy sable]

Deeeeeep

[strong forum]

And people say TF is gone

Fairly

Shouldn't be a huge diff to the one I'm running, very minor

[toxic pewter]

nomer when you say the first spark is 'free' wat u mean by that

or am i misunderstanding what you said

[strong forum]

I'm not saying spark

I meant matrix

[toxic pewter]

crap i may of misread

[strong forum]

Or well, I said matrix

[toxic pewter]

Yeah that on me my b

[sand drum]

Nom, got trinket but not sure what to play, Whelp (372), Tooth (379) and balzebinder hoof (372)

would you play hoof or whelp ?

[strong forum]

I got a free titan matrix to craft a 372-382 item from worldquests

[toxic pewter]

Wait how do i get a free matrix even

dang really

[strong forum]

Hoof + tooth is solid

[toxic pewter]

i didnt get that i want that

[strong forum]

Whelp can slap a good chunk too

The dmg proc is just quite rare

[prisma crane]

whelp is a weird one for me, i love it because it's infrequent enough to have BIG numbers, but i hate it because it's infrequent, lol

[strong forum]

Yeah.

I hope they buff it in some ways

It's so inconsistent

[prisma crane]

had a 306 one while leveling that healed my healer for like 126k in a single cast

[strong forum]

Shark is consistent, that's why it's good

Blazebinder is good cuz you can pop it 10sec before CDs for big overlaps

[sand drum]

got Trampling and scale (from neltharius]

[pallid quiver]

Oh

i only got offered two handers

[strong forum]

Trample is good

Like, really good for st damage

Decent in aoe

[sand drum]

played w Trample + tooth but thought whelp was better 🤷‍♂️ but I guess wait for m+ xD

rn go for consistency ?

[worldly ember]

i kinda have to go for whelp got one with leech ❤️

i wish i could get a higher level of blazing essence it served me well for a while

cool stat stick

[loud patrol]

how much is 12.7k of movement lmao

[strong forum]

alot

[worldly ember]

just enough for umbreiskull 😄

[torn gulch]

that boss will be so annoying in m+

i'm looking forward to it

remembers me of mythic wrathion in nyalotha

[potent gulch]

spark plate pants looks juicy.

haste stack ;-O

[loud patrol]

i still dont know if the balls follow me or the boss lmao

[strong forum]

The closest target

[red mulch]

which stats do we go for

[torn gulch]

i had two corner me in because i moved too much

fun times

[worldly ember]

hahah

[prisma crane]

I had 4 on me once. I guess if they go to closest my team was trolling me...

[loud patrol]

i was drowning in balls

was like a locker room

[minor helm]

😳

[muted arch]

did they get rid of intervene?

[crystal mauve]

It’s a talent now

[strong forum]

Talent

[proud dock]

dumb question: do we ever use battle stance?

[strong forum]

?

[loud patrol]

always lmao

[crystal mauve]

If you don’t need the DR from def stance yes

[strong forum]

You sit in battle stance for over 90% of the time

[loud patrol]

the right question is do we ever use defensive stance?

[torn gulch]

battle stance until we need to use defensive stance

[proud dock]

oh crap

ive been doing this wrong then

gg me

[torn gulch]

at high enough keys you might have to stay in dstance a lot

[strong forum]

The goal is to sit in b-stance for as long as possible

It's a 14% dmg buff to be in battle stance

[torn gulch]

min-maxers will play around with stance switching when needed

[loud patrol]

nah thats basic

[torn gulch]

yea we'll see about that

[muted arch]

ah yeah there it is

[torn gulch]

your average prot player will not stance switch

a lot

[muted arch]

i guess no use for it outside of kiting later on anyway

[strong forum]

Kiting isn't a thing

[crystal mauve]

Try to use your def CD first so you can pump as much damage as possible, IF NEEDED, temporarily swap to Def until you stabilize and back to Doing big dam

[loud patrol]

what bout that frog in infusion?

[strong forum]

What about it

[loud patrol]

dont you have to kite it to avoid venom?

[strong forum]

?

[oblique garnet]

No

[strong forum]

Just kill him

[muted arch]

what? haha

[crystal mauve]

Dispel or kill fast enough

[fast knot]

If he doesn't eat anything just soothe it

[loud patrol]

tell that to my healer

[strong forum]

He doesn't apply his stacks when he goes enrage

[loud patrol]

oh

[crystal mauve]

Who is it? I’ll DM

[strong forum]

Like when we did it, the boss died without applying more than 3 stacks total

[slate kestrel]

wait, there is a boss you are supposed to kite?

[loud patrol]

so or take enraged dmg or have a venom dispeller

[torn gulch]

no there isn't

[strong forum]

Just kill it

It's M0s

Halls of infusion will get nerfed 470303 times

Before it goes to be m+

In s2

[loud patrol]

true

[modern brook]

"Just get the dungeon nerfed"

[strong forum]

Same with brackenhide

Shit is overtuned and toxic as shit

[torn gulch]

yea infusion and brachenhide will need some work

the other 2 are relatively ok

[modern brook]

HoI feels fine tbh

the hall way at the end is like legit stupid tho

[strong forum]

They've seen 0 tuning because they're not in the m+ pool yet

[limpid anchor]

Brackenhide is overtuned? Maybe last boss

[strong forum]

Halls is insanely dumb

[limpid anchor]

But rest seems fine

[strong forum]

Cuz it's m0

[torn gulch]

that last hall will brick infinite keys

[loud patrol]

bracken needs nerf asap

[torn gulch]

it's legit troll

[strong forum]

Like you can clearly see how insanely bad bracken and infusion are

Already in m0

500 casts

[modern brook]

its toxic af and the release is a light year away

[strong forum]

Insanely shitty bosses

[modern brook]

WHOA

[strong forum]

Absolute fiesta

[modern brook]

do not insulpt the gulp goat goliath gulper

[torn gulch]

we'll see a new season in 6 months max

[loud patrol]

for halls but hollow is a week away

[modern brook]

guys a legend

Love gulpper

[fast knot]

Hollow is s2

[strong forum]

Hollow isn't in

[torn gulch]

it's not

[strong forum]

S1

[loud patrol]

wot

nice

[strong forum]

Hollow is s2 aswell

[loud patrol]

im happy i wont see that bs of a dungeon

[modern brook]

we have notgud/azure/RLP/uhhhhhcademy for s1

[torn gulch]

you have offensive, pools, azure and academy

s1

[strong forum]

We have academy, Ruby, azure vault and notgud

In s1

[minor helm]

Pls no notgood

[torn gulch]

notgood will be so good on tyr

hahahaha

[strong forum]

But AV and Notgud suck

Insanely hard bosses

[loud patrol]

notgud is fun tbh

[proud dock]

makes sense thanks

[modern brook]

replace the entire notgud with just a dragon flight race

😮

[torn gulch]

prepare to be pumped without lube by bosses in notgood

[loud patrol]

as long you do not have braindead people

[modern brook]

AV bosses are hard/

[torn gulch]

yes especially umbreskull

[strong forum]

2nd, 3rd and last boss

Are a nightmare now

[loud patrol]

umbreskull will be awful

[torn gulch]

first one is more or less a copy of third boss of underrot

[strong forum]

They overtuned the fuck out of 2nd boss in AV

Last week of beta m+

[modern brook]

these are all "just dont stand in shit" the fights

[torn gulch]

3rd was ok if people know to manage frost pools

[strong forum]

Nah 2nd boss does unavoidable ticking dmg

[loud patrol]

3rd is ok but the 2nd is BS

[strong forum]

Last boss does unavoidable aoe nuke

• slow

• orbs

+frontal

+shards

[loud patrol]

im gonna die a lot

[strong forum]

• tank buster

[modern brook]

Just kill the shards and dont stand in the orbs or frontal

[strong forum]

"just kill the shards"

M8

There's a reason why 80% of all AV keys didn't get completed

And chain wiped to last boss

Even echo players

On a 15

[prisma crane]

You need so much far spread aoe to stand a chance of killing those shards on time

[modern brook]

were they not killin the shards :^)

[minor helm]

They should get good

[strong forum]

No they died to the unavoidable aoe nuke 🙂

[modern brook]

just immune it

[minor helm]

Sounds like a healer issue since health is involved

[strong forum]

And if you accidentally clear stacks, boss gets a permanent 3% dmg buff

Infinitely stacking

[loud patrol]

true

[minor helm]

[strong forum]

Like that boss

Has more mechanics

[modern brook]

ITs wrathion

[strong forum]

Than all of classic + tbc combined

It's 2/3 mechanics too many

For a dungeon boss

[modern brook]

is this still a thing

[torn gulch]

imagine saying that to classic players they'll instantly burst a vein

[loud patrol]

[strong forum]

That's precisely why I'm saying it

[minor helm]

Yeah from trying to figure out what all he said

[loud zinc]

They removed that several builds ago fwiw

[strong forum]

:squint:

[modern brook]

I mean whatever I trust you nom

[loud patrol]

telling classic players their game is braindead is fun

[modern brook]

If u say its broken im 100% prepared to bitch about it

[minor helm]

Worlds easiest lay up

[torn gulch]

it's a very annoying fight

[strong forum]

It's a cancer of a fight

Too much shit for just 1 dungeon boss

[torn gulch]

i expect it to be nerfed

[strong forum]

Too punishing

[modern brook]

but like even accounting for the fact that m0s a joke i didnt see any major issues in the dungeon

[torn gulch]

a couple of times

[modern brook]

the slow is actually toxic

remove that and its fine imo

[torn gulch]

because azure vault will be chain bricked

[strong forum]

AV is the KR of DF

Unplayable on tyr

[torn gulch]

i liked all kr expect shadow of zul

it scared me

as a tank

[prisma crane]

ironically the same as HoV was in Legion

[modern brook]

you're choosing to forget about 3rd boss then tbh

[loud patrol]

i saved avatar literally for the slow

[strong forum]

S4 KR was fine

[torn gulch]

yea i blocked the memory

[strong forum]

Pillars made it alot better

[modern brook]

oh man i forgot about pillars

shit was pog

loved pillars

[torn gulch]

awakened and reaping were the best

seasonal affixes

[modern brook]

reaping was funny

it wasnt good

[torn gulch]

in history of m+

[modern brook]

I'll die on that hill

[cinder storm]

When reaping caster was like 60 yds from pack, then almost one shotting dps

[torn gulch]

beguilling was absolute troll especially the void emisary
I still remember the pull in temple of sethrallis with 5 dervishes and a void emisary that was so bad dratnos complained about it and it was pulled out of the game

mega troll

[modern brook]

beguiling was dogwater

[prisma crane]

imo pillars was one of the best they've ever had because it gave the most freedom for groups to change up how the dungeon was played

[torn gulch]

if beguilling was dogwater what about infested

:))))))

[cinder storm]

It wasn't just dratnoss, that pack was almost impossible

You needed lust and prayge there

[modern brook]

i think id rather do infested than beguilling

unironically

[fast knot]

wcm Infested

[torn gulch]

at high enough fort it was straight impossible

[modern brook]

infested also dogwater tho

[cinder storm]

If iirc, it was during teeming fort week + void, fun key

[torn gulch]

teeming and skittish and overflow

hahahahaha

fun times

affixes lost to history

and now necrotic as well

[prisma crane]

there's many more i'd like to see lost

explosive is one of them

[torn gulch]

goodbye and you might never come back

[strong forum]

Necrotic and inspiring are only on hold for now*

[modern brook]

necrotic was fine imo

[strong forum]

They have a chance to return in the future

Not entirely removed

[loud patrol]

i want a sanguine necrotic grievous bursting key

[modern brook]

as a prot war with minimal self sustain

[odd nimbus]

do we know our bis crafted piece?

[cinder storm]

Skittish > spiteful

[torn gulch]

i don't think we do yet

[prisma crane]

necrotic on tree boss in AA... welcome to 100 stacks in half second if you cant clear all the seeds or w/e they are

[torn gulch]

we don't have extensive sims of embelished powers

[modern brook]

spiteful pre nerfs/fix was actual horse shit

[cinder storm]

Still is

[modern brook]

at least the ghosts dont have a 10yd attack range for no fucking reason

[coarse topaz]

Pve xd

[cinder storm]

In hindsight, that was hilarious

[rare flare]

Did BV bug get fixed with reset? Havnt been able to sign in and test

[loud patrol]

nope

[rare flare]

Mint 👌🏼

[strong forum]

Ah fuck didn't test that yet

[jolly inlet]

It seemed like it just kept turning off for me yesterday so I assume it’s not fixed

[loud patrol]

same

[bright lion]

Have there been any guides or resources put together with a list of recommended crafted items? ie is the shield proc good, or any engi goggles?

[strong forum]

seems to be fixed

[torn gulch]

just keep the sparks for a while

[strong forum]

ye BV bug is fixed

[torn gulch]

basically

[loud patrol]

w0t

[silent cave]

is BV in its current state still better than FbV?

[loud patrol]

for me was the same, after i maxed IP i get no more charge from dmg

[strong forum]

idk chief

works on my machine

i made sure to cap it multiple times

still kept working

[strong forum]

in actual content yes

[rare flare]

Sweeeeeeeet! Will be excited to see how it compares in its state.

[strong forum]

would you rather have 700hps on ST

or keep up IP at all times

especially with tierset BV just wins

[loud patrol]

imagine old BV with tieer set

[silent cave]

BV doesnt actually refresh IP though right? lol

[loud patrol]

nope

idk how people play here but they sound rage starved

you can cast IP instead of revenge

[rare flare]

Outburst refreshes your IP

[silent cave]

but the damage losss lmao 🤣

[viral field]

You don’t need to be jc to equip that elemental lariat neck right?

[strong forum]

when you get that good whelping rng

[silent cave]

doesn't FbV give health from all active deep wounds so it would be multi?

[torn gulch]

no

[strong forum]

sure, but in aoe BV also gets better lol

[viral field]

Poggo ty

[torn gulch]

we were actually discussing a couple of days ago about that neck being a candidate for bis

[silent cave]

trueee, assuming you have IP up. I know we definitely have to use it less because of onslaught. it would be nice to have a way to track how much we are getting added to the IP...

[uneven mason]

Fbv suffers from literally doing zero when we're at full hp

[strong forum]

wdym "you ahve to use it less"

[uneven mason]

Which is most of the time

[strong forum]

this is just me on ST my guy

to prevent overcapping rage

[uneven mason]

Idk why people think we're rage starved

[silent cave]

ohhh true trueee

[strong forum]

in a 3min50 fight

on pure ST

[silent cave]

im still a bit fresh with retail addons, which is this?

[strong forum]

i used 50 ignore pains offensively

[ionic ibex]

is there any information on embellishment route or sims?

[uneven mason]

I legit can't take my finger off of IP for 2 seconds without overcapping

[strong forum]

thats a rotation tracker weakaura

[silent cave]

ahhh ok, ty 🙂 I'll look for it in your weakauras set

[strong forum]

its not included there

it doesnt offer anything to you

its just for the stream

so they can see how much i actually spam IP

[silent cave]

oh, it's what you used?

not what you're supposed to use

[strong forum]

yes

this is my usage history

[silent cave]

gotcha lmao

[strong forum]

from left to right

[uneven mason]

Moar IP is more outburst and avatar which is moar damage

"offensive IP"

[strong forum]

on ST i sent 35 revenge and 50 IP there

vs the dummy

just to prevent overcapping of rage

[silent cave]

would barbaric training help with that? (assuming you don't have it)

[uneven mason]

No

[strong forum]

barbaric training is quite clunky to use

[lusty tiger]

do we revenge during avatar on ST?

if ss is up every other global

[strong forum]

only if you dont have SS ready

[loud patrol]

then no

[lusty tiger]

kk

[uneven mason]

Barbaric training is a bad trade

[silent cave]

apparently I'm doing a few things wrong - BT sounds like a good option

[loud patrol]

i use barbaric training but im seriously thinking to change it to storm bolt

[uneven mason]

50% cost increase for 25% damage

It actually lowers the value of the GCD

[silent cave]

also increases damage of deep wounds no?

[loud patrol]

nope

[blazing condor]

managed to manifest crystalized bulwark and circle of ascended frost

ez game

[strong forum]

if you play BT

[strong forum]

you dont have any rage to press IP

[uneven mason]

It's also very clunky with our gain spend the bump in cost places it just outside of a GCD gain/use

[strong forum]

rn i played BT on dummy

and i could almost never press IP

[silent cave]

I thought deep wounds scaled off skill damage that inflicted it 🤯

[strong forum]

revenge is more costly, which means less SS resets that way

[uneven mason]

Which is a DPS loss because your cycling less outburst

[strong forum]

played like ass

[uneven mason]

It's all ap

[strong forum]

and my HPs was literally half or without it

[silent cave]

you've convinced me

[uneven mason]

BT feelycrafts the same way IP being in GCD does

[frank hemlock]

yo nome saw you talking about the darkmoon trinkets earlier

[strong forum]

a couple days ago but yes

[frank hemlock]

they still shit even in deckboxes at higher ilvl?

havent looked over our trinket options this patch

[strong forum]

yes they shit

[silent cave]

do we ever use hamstring?

[frank hemlock]

huh thanks obama

[loud patrol]

to slow stuff

[frank hemlock]

not having to spend 100k on one of those is a godsend

[loud patrol]

i use it during the 1st boss of notgud to slow the add

[strong forum]

like inferno on average hits for like 50k every 1.5minutes

right?

[silent cave]

I'm trying to avoid having that 25th hotkey

[strong forum]

when dragon gem games hits for 150k guaranteed every 2minutes

[frank hemlock]

lmao

[strong forum]

at 0 gold cost

without rng

[loud patrol]

accidentally sold it last night and the database got purged

[strong forum]

rime you could argue is alright

but still pretty shit overall

80k absorb every 1.5min for 5-12sec

[blazing condor]

i run my 346 dragon games

and it hurts well

[strong forum]

which is practically 2 IPs for 1.5min CD

[loud patrol]

mine was 372 ;_;

[frank hemlock]

rime should only do something if you get it to blow up

so on some boss fights its prolly worse than some shadowlands trinkets lmao

[uneven mason]

[minor helm]

[strong forum]

Wait no not rime

Whatever the tank one is called

[frank hemlock]

Watcher

[strong forum]

Its still shit

But equally shit to m0 ones

[uneven mason]

That's going to be a high bar to beat sl tanking trinkets for dumpster fire tier

[strong forum]

Yeah

Only all-totem of the master is close

Decoration of flame has been nerfed to shit

[uneven mason]

What's the mastery one that has on use STR

I was using that for some chonky bursts

[strong forum]

Irideous fragment?

[lyric geode]

It's shit. Last boss alchemy

[strong forum]

Garbage for us

[uneven mason]

But don't think it was any good overall

[frank hemlock]

Horn of Valor should be ok i imagine

its 1.5m cd right?

[strong forum]

It counts off-gcds as abilities to remove stacks

[frank hemlock]

lines up with our shit

[oak condor]

I dont see a reason to play BT at all, i feel so rage starved whenever i play it

[strong forum]

It's 2min now iirc

[frank hemlock]

well fuck

[uneven mason]

The shit they do that for

[strong forum]

Cuz fuck you

[uneven mason]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[strong forum]

We lose 10stacks almost instantly on that trinket

Unless you actively stop pressing buttons

[uneven mason]

They count shield spikes too?

[strong forum]

Actual key presses

Like IP, taunt, stances

All take away 1 stack

And obv all of our dmg buttons

[lyric geode]

Ah, but isnt it a good opener.

[uneven mason]

Someone slap that dev

[strong forum]

It's bad

Cuz you lose 50% value in 2seconds

[loud patrol]

theres so many devs i wanna slap

[silent cave]

waiiit a second, brutal vitality is going to be completely broken with the 4piece set bonus...

[loud patrol]

but steve danuser

i wanna punch that guy so hard

[strong forum]

Yes vealor welcome to 3 months ago 😄

That's why the nerfed BV

[silent cave]

yeah, sorry, hahaha I'm still catching up on a lot of this 😅

[strong forum]

And why they nerfed the tierset too

[blazing condor]

Burgeoning seed really aint that bad for bursting

[strong forum]

Bro

You're a dwarf

And youre also a tank

Bursting is the least dangerous to tanks

Unless you're bdk/vdh

[lyric geode]

Charge, avatar, demo roar, trinket, thunderous roar, ravager, thunder clap, Shield slam, shield block, revenge.

[strong forum]

And the many IPs inbetween

[silent cave]

last time I played was vanilla wotlk as horde tauren, so this is my first xpac doing M0 and actually getting into theorycrafting

[craggy pilot]

any blacksmithers in here, who specialized in anything specific? 🤔

[lyric geode]

I mean, the only downside of this sequence is that you are opened for 4 sec without shield block. But you maximize your damage with the trinket.

[uneven mason]

We trust Nom and mwahi to theorycraft for us, just press buttons

[uneven mason]

Literally sb buffs ss way more than that trinket

[lyric geode]

SS isnt about dmg also, its main significance is its rage geneation

[uneven mason]

Wat

[lusty tiger]

I’m goin to be playing w a lot of melee so can someone tell me how to play correctly without HR carrying my sb uptime(I always feel like there’s little gaps)

[lyric geode]

Think about it. You press spam revenge so, it procs SS, so you spam revenge and so on.

[strong forum]

Uhm

[uneven mason]

.......

[strong forum]

SS is one of your largest dmg sources

In ST it's your single largest dmg source

SS should always be atleast top 3 of your dmg

[lyric geode]

In m+ we are discussing

[strong forum]

Even in m+

[lyric geode]

I know.

[strong forum]

It's not just that SS enables the rest of your spec to function

It's just fucking slaps

[lyric geode]

Ah, my bad. Rookie mistake.

[strong forum]

With 420 ilvl it crits for over 200k with outburst

[uneven mason]

Your casting order following, like to capitalize on damage you're sacrificing 30% ss DMG for a miniscule amount of str

[lyric geode]

I should put Shield block behind Shield slam.

[strong forum]

Or well, infront

Any SS that isn't buffed by SB hurts my soul

[lyric geode]

?

[strong forum]

[lyric geode]

I said SB before SS? Arent we say the same thing?

[strong forum]

You said SB behind SS

[uneven mason]

I slam my hand with a dictionary when I ss without sb up

[lyric geode]

Ah fuck. English not well

[strong forum]

[lyric geode]

I am an idiot.... Ffs

Well, replace charge with shield charge and you don't have to sacrifice.

[lyric geode]

To be honest. With my 60% uptime of shield block. I am content.

[lusty tiger]

Zzz

[uneven mason]

Wat

[strong forum]

I'm going to bed

[lusty tiger]

He forgot

[torn gulch]

hahahahaha

[lusty tiger]

It’s there

[lyric geode]

Oh fuck.

Well my bad.

[torn gulch]

nomeratur was like "fuck this shit i'm out"

[lusty tiger]

That gameplay decision was so boring it literally put him to sleep

[silent cave]

macro sb then ss? 😛

[torn gulch]

windows shut down

[uneven mason]

No macro

[torn gulch]

ta na na na

[lyric geode]

A question. What uptime you have on SB in m0 on current content.

Just want to compare.

[uneven mason]

100% blocked hits

Because there isn't any reason you have gaps

[lyric geode]

Nice. Very nice. Now lets see @strong forum uptime.

[uneven mason]

Don't @ him bruh, he's old, needs his sleep

[cinder storm]

He's washed

[lyric geode]

True.

[lyric elm]

@lyric geode what's wrong? you're sweating.

[lusty tiger]

XD

[silent cave]

y'all got any good macros you guys use?

[lusty tiger]

@uneven mason do you run HR?

[lyric geode]

Kewk

[cinder storm]

I got a yell macro for my spell block, don't kick I'm SR

[blazing condor]

Guys im not spiritual by any means. But running these m0s id type "manifesting [item]" and ive gotten the item 3/3 times

[lusty tiger]

LOL

[blazing condor]

i think this manifesting thing might be something afterall

[lusty tiger]

gz

[blazing condor]

got bis shield, ring and bracers

[lyric elm]

I'll try it

[lyric geode]

I macro ravager so it goes to my feet.

[blazing condor]

trying for the 4/4

[torn gulch]

I have a stance change macro and a charge/intervene/victory rush macro

[lyric elm]

So it's like yes chef?

[cinder storm]

When chef?

[torn gulch]

and player positional ravager

[lyric elm]

No chef

[torn gulch]

cursor positional leap

damage potion macro-ed to avatar

[silent cave]

ohh, I like the idea of putting impending victory in with charge

[lyric elm]

@blazing condor you're already bis in my heart

[lyric geode]

Fuck that. It makes me jump to the edge of a cliff. I don't trust a macro doing that shit anyway soon.

[torn gulch]

that means you can't aim

kekeke

[lyric geode]

Are you couple with @blazing condor . So cute.

[tender cove]

Having to click and place is not great either. Learn it instead.

[uneven mason]

Right now Yea

[silent cave]

care to share? 😄

[torn gulch]

yes let me get ingame

[blazing condor]

[lyric elm]

Yes we share 1 braincell, as proper warriors

[lusty tiger]

i have gaps running ITF and im trying to figure out the strategy

[blazing condor]

missed out on m0s first week but at least ive went from 340 to 365 today

[uneven mason]

Itf isn't great, also seems to just shit stacks for no reason

[blazing condor]

with some dungeons left

[lusty tiger]

I don’t like it either but I’m gonna be running with 2 melee and a demo lock(dogs/tyrant)

[torn gulch]

@silent cave #showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge
/cast Impending Victory
I have a weakaura that tracks Impending Victory

[lyric geode]

To put in words of the Gattuso. Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit.

[torn gulch]

kinda messy but it works

[uneven mason]

Just keep hr

[lusty tiger]

• it is so comfortable (HR)

[uneven mason]

Wouldn't even bother with itf until higher haste

[torn gulch]

yea haste is kinda bad now tbh

[lusty tiger]

Why? Just to bypass DRs

[torn gulch]

i want my 30%+ back

[lusty tiger]

Yee

[lyric geode]

https://youtu.be/sG1IH1vCvko

[uneven mason]

Haste is multiplicative with itself

[lyric geode]

This gold is just for you

[silent cave]

thanks!

[lusty tiger]

The reduced rage and SB uptime feels so drastic

[torn gulch]

I like having a button doing 3 different things feels really nice

[severe steeple]

so im waiting for trial chest

[uneven mason]

The higher our haste is the more valuable it gets until like 165%?

[severe steeple]

and as it spawns i remember to switch loot spec back to prot (was fury) in case

[lusty tiger]

Yea

[severe steeple]

in case of a shield

[lusty tiger]

Same

[severe steeple]

379 battered scale 😔

[lusty tiger]

That %15 time no sb feels like shit

[torn gulch]

there is a rare with a shield as it's primary drop

[silent cave]

yeah, I'm looking for more of those... having 24 buttons feels pretty bloated right now

[lusty tiger]

Sometimes you gotta hold SC

when u need the block

I thought there’d be a workaround

Yea so like pulling a big pack

No sb from pulling and waiting for mobs to stack

I felt like that kept happening

That works too

I’ve been slacking on SW pressing

More damage?

Yea

I think

I would be more inclined if running io

To make the UF damage loss up

[nova cosmos]

So the lariat, does each socket have a chance to proc the bonus stats?

[lusty tiger]

[outer thorn]

Im still trying to figure out where to put my last utility point in top 2/3 of the class tree, Berserker Rage shouldnt technically be needed but it has been nice to have when you actually end up needing it.

[lyric elm]

It's nice for fears I guess if someone messes up

In that scenario you're guaranteed to wipe the group

[lusty tiger]

I will say getting feared as a warrior has felt awful

[west prairie]

anyone having trouble with bindings when they swap spec

[outer thorn]

my friend says his bars get all messed up when he changes specs

[main dagger]

Im sorry if this question is miss placed. 😮

But i was wondering what ring ench people are using. Haste or Vers?

[lyric elm]

Vers because it was cheap

[dusky canopy]

I saw all the discussion on BV and honestly even with the nerfs it still feels way better to play

[west prairie]

my bars get messed up when swapping from prot to fury

but not arms

idk

[dusky canopy]

Deep wounds healing just feels ass

[lyric elm]

Vers was like 14g for both rings

[dusky canopy]

BV way better

[main dagger]

So Haste works on bleeds?? 😮

[dusky canopy]

They’ll fix it when they start reviewing data week 1

[outer thorn]

I also tried playing around with Wrecking Throw, there are some niche cases where you gonna have to burn down an absorb at higher keys but I was very underwhelmed, do we have any data on what "up to 500% increased damage" actually means?

[dusky canopy]

They are not reviewing data for M0s

I’m guessing anyway

[thorny stone]

pvp helmet on AA m0

[main dagger]

What are people using Brutal Vitality or Fueled by Violence?

[dusky canopy]

Fbv feels bad wether it is or isn’t

BV feels good play that

[toxic pewter]

my engineering helm with flame thrower does better overall dam it did 4.7% of my overall in uldaman earlier

[dusky canopy]

Itd be sweet to have fbv but not worth losing BV

[outer thorn]

Fueled by minor irritation

[main dagger]

Thanks everyone 🙂

[lyric geode]

Prot warrior

[lusty tiger]

iirc bdk mastery stacks

these days

[slim dove]

I believe it states "up to" because it wont roll-over the damage into actual health

[blazing condor]

does it matter btw if you choose wrathion or sabellian

[outer thorn]

they have a talent now that increases damage by 20% as long as they have shield iirc, imagine if we got +20% as long as we had IP up

[lusty tiger]

settled

[oblique garnet]

No

[blazing condor]

thanks Late

[outer thorn]

that makes sense, Ill run it in some actual keys later where things live for longer than 2 sec and log them to take a closer look

[mellow quartz]

that bear tier nerf is that the big group heal or nah?

the 4 set

[outer thorn]

the big group heal was from After The Wildfire talent I thought

[elfin atlas]

Technically no as they share the same reward table. However, if you are looking to max both reps out, it could be advantageous to switch loyalty back and forth each week since you gather rep concurrently and at more of a clip for your loyalty chosen. The goal is to try and max both at the same time to minimize the grind.

[mellow quartz]

thats probably it

their 4 pc just got nerfed by like 2/3's

[lunar pivot]

Are there any sims of what embellished gear prot warrior will want?

[noble lynx]

Fuck bear

[slim dove]

helm is alright

nothing is must have

[lunar pivot]

Didn't that helm get nerfed?

[slim dove]

it did? i didn't see it

the pvp helm is what im referring to

[barren socket]

so we get another spark next week right?

[pallid quiver]

he's some loser who cried over in blade's edge mountains for like a decade :L

[barren socket]

is that how it works?

[slim dove]

yes

[pallid quiver]

Once you clear the next quest, but yes

[lunar pivot]

the bleed one

[slim dove]

yeah i didn't see it got nerfed anywhere.

[pallid quiver]

We get one every two weeks until we get 5. After that, they become rare drops you can get from most activities

[lunar pivot]

I remember using it on beta and it got changed and was like not great anymore

[slim dove]

it does the most damage out of any available embellish. But not enough to be hyped over.

[slim dove]

yeah I think it comes out to about 500ish dps

[loud patrol]

im so sure we gonna get a murozond raid this xpac

[mighty valley]

or at least some time travel something

[noble lynx]

No timetravel plz

[loud patrol]

yes plz

[pallid quiver]

Murozond is the first boss

Murozond is the last boss

[pallid quiver]

Calling it now

[barren socket]

time traveling to old raids

[noble lynx]

Are you new player

[drifting fable]

timetravel is cool if they do it right but not if its just fanservice

[copper talon]

Would you guys choose leech over hast?

haste*

[pallid quiver]

Never

[outer thorn]

I was thinking about what Ion said in the Preach interview that they want to make more evergreen content, I think we will see some style Fated Raids system where we go back to old raids for certain seasons, a more developed version of Timewalking Raids if you will. Lorewise we will repair the timeline or whatever.

[noble lynx]

Last time blizz did timetravel was uh oh

[loud patrol]

imagine a raid where we gotta time travel between different times to stop the infinite like cavers of time but done right

[copper talon]

Thats a no than?

[drifting fable]

but the way the lore is going kind of is lending itself to some sort of time travel anyways i feel

[mighty valley]

blizz has done timetravel like. almost every expansion. some of it's fun and some of it's stupid

[pallid quiver]

No tertiary is worth sacrificing secondaries for

[ocean finch]

What Embellishment did you guys choose when crafting shield? Or did you pick a specific power?

[loud patrol]

this time it was allright

[copper talon]

Thank you!

[mighty valley]

yeah the end of the campaign was really fun

[pallid quiver]

I still need closure to that quest where you get help from your future self and you're all alcoholic'd up and everything

[loud patrol]

azmerloth bis

[mighty valley]

the trick to time travel is to do the back to the future/looper approach and just say "the rules to this stuff are stupid. don't get hung up on it. it just has to make emotional sense"

[loud patrol]

if we go to the future we need a back to the future reference

[mighty valley]

there's GOTTA be one already, wow has referenced every popular movie of all time by this point

[pallid quiver]

I think there was one in BC or Vanilla

Some gnomes i think

[craggy pilot]

how do we get to Uldaman as horde?

Org -> Twilight Highlands and then fly?

is that the closest?

[slim dove]

yes

[empty locust]

Been away from the game a year, looking for a good elvui profile for tanking. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[polar raptor]

maybe controversial but I use tattman's default ui setup and plater profile

[empty locust]

Cheers ill check it out

[polar raptor]

https://discord.com/channels/567143425002962968/813334169853624361 link to get

[empty locust]

Link does not work, but thats ok i can find it 🙂

[tender cove]

Just got the titan IV to drop. Can i use that to upgrade the shield i crafted last week?

[tender cove]

I use elvui with fatpalas profile and noms wa package. Works a treat.

fatpala has both elvui and plater profile made for tanking. Its pretty sick tbh.

[empty locust]

thanks will check it out

[tender cove]

or wait, he made me a custom elvui profile but im pretty sure you can find his 4k resolution, might have to tweak some settings though.

[marble cipher]

If I wanna have my shield recrafted with armor spikes, I have to provide the alloys again right? or only the shield and the armor spike?

[severe steeple]

BRUH Assembly ring got hotfixed

it's purple now 😎

[tender cove]

ohh shit, it is 😄

[jovial birch]

Would it be worth using my spark on https://www.wowhead.com/item=190523/frostfire-legguards-of-preparation

There really isnt any legs with optimal secondary stats from dungeons right now

[torn gulch]

you have tier legs with ideal stats

unless you want to use your spark now

my opinion is that you might want to wait for at least a raid clear and possible even first vault

and then craft a spark item