protection

[sleek current]

Occasionally, it's inconsistent.

[lusty grotto]

if youre in azure span, you regonna get lagged

due to the pvp world quest

[cinder nova]

Cobalt?

[cinder nova]

Why?

[lusty grotto]

because blizzard's infrastructure is crap

did you not ever do nazjatar with WM on?

this has been the case forever

mass pvp lags instances

[warm plinth]

I have WM off and Azure Span still lags for me (or at least it was last night)

[lusty grotto]

yeah even if you have WM off

the pvp world quest is there

so you will lag regardless

[warm plinth]

Ah

[cinder nova]

Also is it me or are some mining nodes straight up in the ceiling

[sleek current]

Floor, wall, ceiling... Who knows.

[loud patrol]

beneath the earth+

[lusty grotto]

typical for new launches

[sleek current]

I found one of them clipped into the side of a wall inside of a waterfall with no potential to get it.

[lusty grotto]

are you new S.?

because you were talking about vanilla

[cinder nova]

No, I've been playing since 05

[lusty grotto]

im just surprised this is something new to you

[cinder nova]

But I haven't seen this kind of jank in a while.

[prisma crane]

does anyone have a chart of the ilvl thresholds for reward breakpoints?

[warm plinth]

I saw a bear inside of a giant tree stump too

[lusty grotto]

ever single expansion theres nodes under and over

[warm plinth]

What kind of rewards

[cinder nova]

I never got that with SL tbh.

[warm plinth]

Like WQs?

[cinder nova]

And I was double gatherer.

[prisma crane]

like from weeklies, rares, WQs, etc, yea

[cinder nova]

And I gathered for all my pots, flasks, and legendary vessels.

[warm plinth]

No, because Blizzard is insanely inconsistent with those

[prisma crane]

someone has to have made one by now

[warm plinth]

You can have two people with the same exact ilevel and one person will get a higher reward than the other person

[cinder nova]

The interact hotkey can help sometimes.

[warm plinth]

I've seen it happen firsthand

[cinder nova]

If it's close and you find it.

[sleek current]

I'm going to need to set that up. Just no idea where I'll put it. Lol.

[wide pilot]

has anyone played around with th Primal Ritual Shell trinket?

[dry tide]

Is stance dancing a thing in dragonflight for prot warriors?

[cinder nova]

Dancing? Not really, not in the way the phrase had birthed it.

We barely touch Def unless we're getting hammered and you're unlikely to see that until deep, deep M+ keys or bleeding edge prog.

[spring holly]

stance dancing is not required because prot warr is op so you can sit in battle

[dry tide]

Ok awesome thank you

[cinder nova]

Man you're in for a rude awakening when you hit actual content.

[cerulean tusk]

You will get used to when you got to jump in and out, what hits needs that bonus 20% or not. Live and learn

[wide pilot]

when u think ur spec is op because u can pull big in a 0 lol

[spring holly]

lol I'm just joking around, but in an honest note I feel like prot warr is not SS tier in m+ only because it lacks some top tier utility

[dry tide]

Any macros for quickly switching between stances?

[sleek current]

Top tier utility? Like what? BR?

[cerulean tusk]

No heroism

[cinder nova]

[dry tide]

Ok will do

[sleek current]

Disrupting Shout, Intimidating Shout, Stormbolt, Shockwave, Shield Charge. All except the first being a part of our base kit now. 😄

[wide pilot]

shield charge is part of our base kit?

[sleek current]

Why wouldn't you run SC right now?

I meant base kit in terms of everyone including their nan will be able to pick these talents. Apologies.

[wide pilot]

ah

[sleek current]

It's only gone and happened. I got Girdle of the Crumbling Sanctum from Tomb of Sargarus. I fear to check my runs. Lol

[loud patrol]

lovely

[novel temple]

Jesus Christ, that’s a chode

[sleek current]

It's in the tree.

[loud patrol]

jesus even with mounted mining you cant reach it

[sleek current]

Yep, nothing to stand on. 😂

[novel temple]

Wait, you can mine while dragon riding?

[limpid pawn]

did like half the mythic dungeons under 310 ilevel easily

[sleek current]

Yeah, it's the last skill of the "Mining Process" skill

[loud patrol]

you could try to heroic leap in the node

[limpid pawn]

m+ farm begins this next tuesday?

[novel temple]

Same with herbalism,

[sleek current]

Gave it a whack but, was a no go. Didn't want to waste time on it. 😂

[loud patrol]

lol

weird thing is have found so many bugged nodes

but 1 bugged plant

[mellow quartz]

9 days

[cobalt seal]

Thats ez to know why

Mining is usual in 'extreme' places

So they clip to invisible walls

While plants are usually in the open

Less likely to get bugged

[fossil wind]

anybody know anything about embellishments?

[sleek current]

What are you wanting to know?

[fossil wind]

what's available/what the effects are/whats good

[limpid pawn]

for blacksmithing, you think going weaponsmithing is the way at least at the start?

[cobalt seal]

Whats good is tbd

So just wait

If you want to read

Maybe wowhead has something about it

[nova prairie]

I can tell you that armor smithing leaves you stranded after 60. The only thing left that will give me skill is primal stuff which requires the Spark of Ingenuity. I'm farming rep, hoping their recipies will give me points again

[fossil wind]

thing is i can't seem to find exact effects of a lot of the embellishments

seems like theres not much info out

[nova prairie]

if you hover over the embellishments, the tool tip says what they do (though it doesnt give numbers)

[slim dove]

3x matrix's from my m0 clear

wtf

[fossil wind]

yeah but in a lot of cases it just has no useful info

[warm plinth]

@potent anvil @shut summit hello wonderful friends, I hope you are both enjoying the new expansion so far! Dragonriding is so much fun for me!

[fossil wind]

and some like the toxified armor patch don't really tell you anything

[warm plinth]

wdym it infuses the item with the essence of decay, how much more specific do you need it to be?! 😏

[potent anvil]

[lusty grotto]

all professions stop giving recipes at 50

[nova prairie]

Some specializations give recipes that are easier to craft. For example, tool making is easier than armorsmithing. with that, I suspect you can level your profession more.

[pallid quiver]

i just wish alchemy didn't tell me to fuck off every 4 hours and take more HP from me than an entire Mythic dungeon

My only feelings on profs right now

[nova prairie]

I'm hopping a bg will drop a pvp recipie soon. I dont know if it will help me level, but they have a higher skill requirment than expidition armor

[limpid perch]

Any recommendations for a decent website with just dot point boss notes I can keep up on the side while learning mythics this week ?

[limber galleon]

Hey prot warriors! I want to get more into tanking this expansion, I’m on the fence between prot war and VDH; what are the real differentiators between the two that might make you like or hate either haha? Thank you!

[cobalt seal]

Vdh sucks and pwar doesnt

Vdh is getting fucked by havoc

Pwar isnt

[warm plinth]

😂

I heard you can't even cancel Immo Aura now because Havoc was cancelling it for something exploit-y

[cobalt seal]

Correct

[urban portal]

whats the exploit

[cobalt seal]

Canceling it to trigger ragefire

When it was max dmg

[urban portal]

ah i see

[cobalt seal]

Or something like that

[urban portal]

i didnt know there was a cap to ragefire

[lusty grotto]

that's not what i meant, i meant from trainers

[cobalt seal]

I might be wrong on the details

But the fix was because of ragefire

[lusty grotto]

either way the soft cap is 50, they have said this since the initial profession reveal

[warm plinth]

I don't think it's really a problem so far this expansion but it could very easily be one at some point

Like not being able to cancel Immo Aura in TD for example is just troll

[cobalt seal]

Doesnt really matter

[nova prairie]

my statement from earlier doesn't change though. The recipes u learn get you to 60, tools smithing specialization can probably be easier to level farther, as opposed to armor smithing, whose recipe unlocks require sparks

[lusty grotto]

yes but leveling doesnt give much, its not required

further from 50

[warm plinth]

nah not really, but I think it would be nice if they made it so immo doesn't hit things you aren't in combat with, just for those cases

[lusty grotto]

you will get to 100 by crafting slowly

[cobalt seal]

Immo is short duration

Like 8s

So just wait a bit

[warm plinth]

yeah just a minior inconvenience

[rancid herald]

Thinking of switching from orc to belf. I know it’s early but I feel like I’d get a lot of value out if arcane torrent in these dungeons. Any advice?

[cobalt seal]

Play whatever race you like the mosy

Racials dont matter

Its all looks

[neon elk]

Is there any point to have ability on ravager to throw it where i want? Or should i just make a mcaro to auto throw it under me ??

[cobalt seal]

Yes you want a cursor macro

[lusty grotto]

/use [@cursor][] Ravager```

[neon elk]

Tyty

[lusty grotto]

but keep in mind that ravager has a max range

[tawny kiln]

hmm, am I using ravager wrong? feels like whenever I use it, the things I'm attacking are right in front of me anyways

[lusty grotto]

no you arent using it wrong

its just in case he wants to yeet it for a pull or whatever

[tawny kiln]

ah gotcha

[lusty grotto]

if that's not the case then [@player] might be best instead of [@cursor]

he didnt specify so i just assumed he wants to aim it still

[tawny kiln]

👍

[coral marsh]

guys what are the easiest m+0?

to do with low gear

[warm plinth]

idk I didn't think any of them were particularly difficult

[cobalt seal]

All

[covert topaz]

anyone know a rare that drops a 1h?

[warm plinth]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/defeat-super-rares-each-day-for-up-to-385-item-level-gear-330298

[covert topaz]

tyty

[solemn magnet]

Are those daily or weekly?

[warm plinth]

daily

like every other rare

[cobalt seal]

They rotate

So they might not be up tomorroe

[coral sonnet]

Hey guys are the FAQS updated for df? Looking to get into prot tanking for m+ and I’m clueless

first time tanking

[lusty grotto]

if youre tanking for the first time i recommend Icy Veins guide written by Mwahi whos a mod/theorycrafter of this channel

wowhead's guide is also decent and the author hangs around in the channel as well

after you've gone through either of those you can then check out the pins here

[neon elk]

Have anyone tried pwar in pvp? Is it viable?

[lusty grotto]

not yet but #pvp might have more info

as a former arena junkie i absolutely dislike tanks in anything but rated BGs

and honestly im almost positive VDH might be the winner for flag carrying

[proud dock]

as in they were good or bad>

[lusty grotto]

as in what

who?

as in tanks shouldnt have a place in rated content besides rbgs

[proud dock]

tanks in pvps/flag carrier

oh ok

[lusty grotto]

im confused

[proud dock]

nvmd

[lusty grotto]

i share the same feelings as people that complain about them in solo queue basically

if there was some sort of competitive siege mode with collision like DAoC or warhammer... that could change my opinion. But until then, my opinion is tanks should only stick to rBGs

we have 2 other great specs for proper pvp though

[compact jackal]

Oh hey, WoWhead has the helm PPM, 3.5

belt is 3, so helm is the better embellishment?

[ionic fern]

Which head?WHat helm?

[dire dagger]

So u can get loot daily from rares?

[warm plinth]

as long as the rare is up that day. Most rares are up all the time with a daily lockout. The "super rares" are also daily loot lockout but they aren't up every day necessarily

[fast knot]

I thought Lancer was tied to the event for Dragonkeep but there is either a sharding issue with him spawning or the event just skips him sometimes

Of course my boosted ass had Fury loot table on and got the damn spear

[lusty grotto]

in my experience he always spawns after a siege

[fast knot]

Some guildies were waiting and the event ended and then just went back to an hour for timer

[neon elk]

Rares doesnt care about your loot spec nor your class , they drop random items , even cloth on plates etc..

[fast knot]

I saw that in action

Thankfully I avoided getting any off pieces other than lance

[compact jackal]

Infurious

Armor spikes are 1.1+haste

[ionic fern]

Ah, okay.
Gotta keep in mind tier tho.

[compact jackal]

Trying to find the fang's PPM

[ionic fern]

@warm plinth good morning.

[warm plinth]

Good morning! How are you doing today?

[ionic fern]

Sleepy.

Was on vacation and ruined my sleeping schedule.

😂

How about you?

[warm plinth]

I slept like 15 1/2 of the last 24 hours lol

[compact jackal]

Helm: 3.5 PPM
Belt: 3 PPM
Shield of the Hearth: 2.2 PPM
Armor Spikes: 1.1+Haste PPM
Fang Adornments: 6+Haste PPM

[loud patrol]

jokes on yall

i have slept 24 hours in the last week

[compact jackal]

You should probably sleep. That's not good for your health.

[sick sentinel]

Well wrathion grind is done

Now i can enjoy my black velocidrake all expac

[sick sentinel]

Honestly this early in the expac fury weps are good

[ionic fern]

Did it after the nerf?

Wild.

[sick sentinel]

Since its 2 weeks of solo content

What nerf?

[ionic fern]

They apparently nerfed the grind yesterday. 👀

[sick sentinel]

Like made it easier or harder?

[ionic fern]

Harder.

[sick sentinel]

Woops

its still 250 for keys/spider and 500 for 10 rings, not sure what the nerf was unless they just nerfed key frames

would explain why i have 1500 extra frags ig

[loud patrol]

why

is already ugly

[ionic fern]

Idk, ask Blizz.

[loud patrol]

i refuse to do that grind

got tired after doing my 1st key and it wasnt the key i needed for the weekly

[tidal spire]

This spec is nutty. I am only 360 and feel immortal in m0's. Haven't felt this strong since bfa, I love it.

[loud patrol]

i think since we go up to +20 they made all tanks feel inmortal

i think they want more people playing mythics

[ionic fern]

Then you played SL incorrectly. 😦

But yes, we are beefy as hell.

[tidal spire]

I didn't play prot war in sl

[ionic fern]

My statement stands.

[loud patrol]

lmao

[tidal spire]

Well.. a bit in s4 but it didn't feel this good lol

[limpid anchor]

S4 pwar was insane

[solar crown]

Wait, wouldnt it be correct to not play SL? So he played it right?

[ionic fern]

I don't play the expansion.
I play Prot WArrior in what ever scenario is around me., Idk.

Some tree died?
Not my problem.
Someone betrayed someone?
Not my problem.
Some special storyline going on?
Not my problem.

[loud patrol]

im a war looking for a challenge

[ionic fern]

[loud patrol]

tbh that the lore of my character hes just looking for battles

[ionic fern]

Jep.

[loud patrol]

and when i wanna play an alt, the "training arc" starts

[granite anvil]

There has to be a fail-condition for keys. Either it’s the Tank that dies (hello SL S1, fun times) or it’s the group that dies.

Or bosses just start to become pure killing machines that are impossible to kill, but that’s like the most boring wall to hit in a dungeon.

[left barn]

hey, how much is the change to brutal vitality coming this reset gonna feel in high m+ you guys reckon?

[ionic fern]

Nada.

[left barn]

awesome! because right now it feels so amazing i really dont want them to change ANYthing

[lusty grotto]

mwahi this might need to be pinned

its being asked way too much

[mighty valley]

hey mwahi what does 2026 look like for prot warriors

[left barn]

yeah sorry i came to check specifically this :D

[ionic fern]

OK

[lusty grotto]

wait no, not my message

oh phew

wait

AHHH

[left barn]

ahahaha

[loud patrol]

[lusty grotto]

pls no 😢

@warm plinth might punch me

[warm plinth]

what did I do

[mighty valley]

hey ghash punch nim

[lusty grotto]

ghash secretly wants a pin

you didnt hear this from me

[warm plinth]

Actually, I not-so-secretly want frined role

But no one will give it to me

friend*

[lusty grotto]

true

[mighty valley]

you have friend role in my heart

[warm plinth]

ty Harrow

[lusty grotto]

i can shill for it

[warm plinth]

❤️

[lusty grotto]

ghash needs a friend role please and ty

[warm plinth]

I asked a lot of people for it. ie ven asked Vel and I don't even know them

[lusty grotto]

and i can have a shill friend role 🙂

with a nice pink color

[warm plinth]

Pink is my color wdym

[lusty grotto]

oh rip

[ionic fern]

Jokes aside, we are spamming IP pretty heaviliy regardless due to rage-income so you won't really notice it. 🙂

• Our Tier also adds into IP ..

[warm plinth]

see

hot pink ftw

[mighty valley]

what was nerfed????????!!!!!!!!!!

[left barn]

thanks so much!

[lusty grotto]

that's a great color

[ionic fern]

Me.

[warm plinth]

I think I was talking about the cobalt rep grind

[ionic fern]

I was too OP.

[warm plinth]

he's not wrong

[lusty grotto]

well the nerf did nothing

still op

warlocks hate mwahi

find out why

[ionic fern]

Everyone hates Mwahi.

[lusty grotto]

they just jelly of the OPness

[ionic fern]

Jeah, probably. 😦

It's tough being so good.

[warm plinth]

How can you say that; I tell you ily almost every day

[ionic fern]

Yes, but now i found out you do it just for the "friend" role.

[lusty grotto]

lolll

[ionic fern]

[warm plinth]

No, I don't. If that were the case I'd be pinging Late too

I've known him for just as long

[loud patrol]

[lusty grotto]

it seems that ghash friendliness has to be tested

in battle

[warm plinth]

🤔

[loud patrol]

tank a +20 naked only sword and shield

[ionic fern]

Not even a challenge.

[mighty valley]

armor actually weighs mwahi down, he's more powerful naked

[ionic fern]

^

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/XmLP.gif

this is Mwahi

[ionic fern]

I was tanking without half my gear in some 20's previously just to see if healers notice.

They diddn't.

[warm plinth]

idk why it didn't embed

[ionic fern]

[warm plinth]

the guy in the gif has a little too much hair to be Mwahi but it's close enough

[lusty grotto]

thats the definition of a risky click

[ionic fern]

My hair fell out as i began my ascent into OP'ness.

[lusty grotto]

but i gotta respect the flow

[ionic fern]

Haven't you seen One Punch man?

[warm plinth]

I wish I knew the reason for my hair falling out

I'd rather just have it back

[lusty grotto]

have you tried picking it back up

[loud patrol]

i wish we could dual wield shields

[warm plinth]

I don't notice it falling out man

It sneaks out while I'm sleeping I think

[lusty grotto]

hmm... maybe you need to install some booby traps

heh heh boobs

[warm plinth]

Just surround myself with those things you put in shower drains to catch hair

ngl I'm actually grossed tf out by hair

[mighty valley]

i've heard of boobs... from what i've heard, they're pretttttty cool

[warm plinth]

Like if I get a random strand of hair on me it makes me gag

[lusty grotto]

lol

[loud patrol]

lol

tbh bald is the way to go

[warm plinth]

I just don't think I could pull it off

Plus I'm 6'3 so not everyone can see that I'm bald yet

[lusty grotto]

i honestly cant do bald, i would look like a conehead

[mighty valley]

oh yeah i can never go bald

also if i shave my beard i look like i'm 15

[warm plinth]

If I shave my beard I look like I'm related to Peter Griffin

[loud patrol]

get buffed like a irl orc

[lusty grotto]

im pretty sure i would look like one of those kids you see that are dying of hunger on infomercials

[loud patrol]

become johnny sins

[uneven lodge]

Hey is the prot warrior change a big nerf or ist fine?

[mighty valley]

fine

[lusty grotto]

yes

is the answer

the answer is yes

[loud patrol]

i wonder why people think is like a huge change

[lusty grotto]

well

my theory is most of them are BDK rerolls

so they rely on healing

any change to healing is like GASP what is happening

[warm plinth]

SELF SUSTAIN IS LIFE

[loud patrol]

well we don need healing tbh

[lusty grotto]

right

apparently thats something most bdk/vdh rerolls dont understand

[warm plinth]

we know that, but the rerollers don't know that

[lean willow]

Don’t really think about healing. I’m more thinking about how I don’t take damage and do 90k dps

[loud patrol]

when m+ opens i plan to push keys until i take dmg

[ionic fern]

IP has always been OP in irrelevant content tho.

Not saying we will be bad in m+ .

[loud patrol]

everything is irelevant against our shields

[limpid anchor]

Pwar f Tier. Don’t listen to the haters

[ionic fern]

Agreed.

We suck.

Re-roll to something else.

[loud patrol]

true we doomed

[lusty grotto]

absolutely

[loud patrol]

pin it

[lean willow]

Going back to DK the vibes are weird here XD

[loud patrol]

lmao

[ionic fern]

Take caaaare.

Visit us again.

For more weird vibes

[loud patrol]

have fun

[warm plinth]

dooooooooomed

I wanna know what ever happened to that paladin that came in here the one time who claimed he belonged here because he was a warrior of light

[lusty grotto]

ahahaha

[loud patrol]

[warm plinth]

He was a very passionate fellow

[ionic fern]

He's not wrong tho.

[warm plinth]

We welcomed him I believe

[loud patrol]

imagine relaying on something that is not your indomitable spirit

[warm plinth]

Your mom is an indomitable spirit

gottem

[mighty valley]

🙂

moms are tough

[loud patrol]

she truly is

[warm plinth]

I don't know why and I don't want to know why that emoji is called that

[lusty grotto]

[loud patrol]

[blazing condor]

[boreal crescent]

So what's the general consensus on Cobalt Assembly Rings. Do I go for the Guardian ring (shield proc) or go for the Scholars ring (arcane damage proc)?

[ionic fern]

Damaaaaage.

[limpid anchor]

Shield kekw

[mighty valley]

damage used to be broken, but now it's fixed! so yah

[warm plinth]

Oh it is fixed now?

pog

[lusty grotto]

theres only 1 ring

[boreal crescent]

fixed as in it didn't work? and now it does? or it was OP and has now been nerfed?

[mighty valley]

the first one

[warm plinth]

It was only proccing on spells before, not melee abilities

[boreal crescent]

oh lame

so now it's worth taking over then shield one? since... well M0s do no damage and I'll likely replace it before M+ becomes a challenge?

[loud patrol]

take both and equip em depending on content and situation

[boreal crescent]

fair enough

[mighty valley]

Even in shadowlands the standard logic was build for damage until super high keys when your survivability is the only thing holding the group back

Now we're tougher than ever

[loud patrol]

forget the shield and equip swords

[lyric elm]

Dw Fury tanking in classic was a thing

[boreal crescent]

😄

[novel temple]

Give us a one slot version of Titan’s Grip

[loud patrol]

u mean SMF?

[novel temple]

Crusaders do it in Diablo 3

No

[loud patrol]

oh

shield and 2h

[lusty grotto]

warriors in ffxiv tank with a 2hander

[novel temple]

I mean allow us to equip 2h as prot

[lyric elm]

Equip 2 shields

[novel temple]

But no shield

Or yeah, equipping two shields would be nice

[mighty valley]

gunbreakers are the only cool tank in ffxiv sorry

[lusty grotto]

dual wield shield has been a wish since before legion

[novel temple]

And it does have some possibility, maybe

[lyric elm]

But fel cleave

[mighty valley]

dual wield shields is the goofiest thing of all time, are you all serious

[boreal crescent]

agreed

[lyric elm]

Just smack em

[warm plinth]

You think Black Iron Tarkus is goofy @mighty valley IS HE A JOKE TO YOU

[novel temple]

See there’s evidence

[lusty grotto]

yo i like GNB too

[lyric elm]

[lusty grotto]

there was a dual wield shield spec in elder ring

also there's a dual wield shield boss in ffxiv lmao

[novel temple]

Dual Shield or we riot.

[mighty valley]

what!!!!!!

[novel temple]

There’s a dual wield shield boss in auchindoun in WoD too

[loud patrol]

never forget Dual shield in DS3

[lusty grotto]

oh yeah that's true

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls3-parry-no-gif-11451730

[lusty grotto]

always play parry builds

always

i love em

[warm plinth]

I bet that's the only ability that guy can parry on that fight

[lusty grotto]

except in fucking pvp where people lag so much

[blazing condor]

man idk pontiff a bitch

[lusty grotto]

its like they have lag switches or something

[warm plinth]

Dark Souls PvP is the most overrated shit in history.

[blazing condor]

^

[lusty grotto]

yeah well that hasnt been fixed

[warm plinth]

Idk how anyone can enjoy that shit with how laggy it is

[mighty valley]

simply play bloodborne

[lusty grotto]

ever since DS, all the way to Elden Ring

[blazing condor]

i have parry only no damage many bosses in ds3 but pontiff is just too erratic for my boomer brain

champ gundyr is goated though

[warm plinth]

I got stunlocked by a dude with a FUGS in DS3

He was like 20 yards away

That was the end of my DS PvP

[lusty grotto]

pvp lag applied to BB as well, you couldn't fucking get a shot off of a laggy player

[civic girder]

Just picked this class up has prot always been so tanky

[warm plinth]

Pretty much

[loud patrol]

1hp no hit no roll fists only no armor NG+7 Darkeater Midir

[mighty valley]

oh yeah i don't pvp in bloodborne

i just get very drunk and fight ludwig

[warm plinth]

Community perception is a hell of a drug though

[ionic fern]

Yes.
But before you had to play properly to maintain your tankiness.
Now you just "HURRDURR TALENT MAKE ME TANKY".

[lusty grotto]

lol

[warm plinth]

Can I quote you on that Mwahi

[lusty grotto]

i like this side of Mwahi

[loud patrol]

pin it plz

[ionic fern]

Approved.

[civic girder]

Hell yeah

[blazing condor]

even though its true and i agree... i like the angry boomer mwahi

[civic girder]

I just press ignore pain and shield then pull from boss to boss

[lusty grotto]

and with that quote, its time for

[ionic fern]

No. Business as usual.

[warm plinth]

Remember when someone would say something dumb and Macrologia would appear out of nowhere and math them to death

[mighty valley]

still think BV is probably the play with the tier set but like. it's a tiny difference imo

[warm plinth]

Pepperidge Farm remembers

[lusty grotto]

i remember

that shit was great

[ionic fern]

Jeah, and now we just have me flaming people.

😦

[warm plinth]

I need people to stop calling Brutal Vitality BV please

Call it BrV or something

BV is Booming Voice

[mighty valley]

you can't really test anything out in an m0 right now

if you're dying it's really not your talent's fault

[limpid anchor]

Why not boovo

[warm plinth]

Nope, it's Harrow's fault

[mighty valley]

yeah i cast my little curse

[warm plinth]

Because Booming Voice came first and it's disrespectful to make it change its shortened form

Or we can go full bri'ish

and call brutal vitality bruv

[loud patrol]

Oi bruv its BruV the way to play? Cheers M8

[warm plinth]

😂

[mighty valley]

Bruv is the absolute tits innit mate

[loud patrol]

Cheeri-o thanks m8, Queen bless you

[jagged pier]

stop taking the piss out of the bri'ish al write?

[mighty valley]

i'm scottish it's in my blood

[jagged pier]

ITS KING NOW

[warm plinth]

Jakey are you bri'ish

[blazing condor]

kings bless you 💅

why are you british jakey

[jagged pier]

i identify as a degen okay

not a bri'ish

[hazy sluice]

Jo at what ilvl can I pug m0 ? Straight away ?

[mighty valley]

is football coming home

[warm plinth]

Yep

[jagged pier]

u need to be at least ilvl 1

[hazy sluice]

Kk

[hollow nebula]

Hey with "show of force" talent should i do revenge < thunder < sslam, if i dont need to protect 'of course

[jagged pier]

i dont give a shit about soccer

[warm plinth]

you spelled bri'ish wrong

[mighty valley]

oh god don't go out in the street and call it soccer

[jagged pier]

imma just saying we called it soccer first

so i dont know why

ppl get so madge about it

[loud patrol]

Oi lads feeling a bit cheesy today, might conquer one or two civilizations

[blazing condor]

might fuck around and put beans on toast

[mighty valley]

yeah i'm a scottish lad moved to the US and people get so weird about american football

[jagged pier]

then have a cheeky nados

[mighty valley]

it should be called handegg laughing my bum off !!!!!!

[jagged pier]

dont forget the nados m8

[warm plinth]

I would watch soccer/football if they cut the size of the pitch in half and made it so you had to not be a little bitch to play the game

[blazing condor]

better to invent a new sport that no one else in the world cares about so you can be number one at it

[ionic fern]

Defund sport and put the money into something essential like education.

[warm plinth]

How does soccer even cost money

It's two nets, some chalk, and a ball

[loud patrol]

tbh i feel weird being a latino and i dont even like soccer

[warm plinth]

Like their biggest expense is what, lawncare?

[loud patrol]

bribes

[warm plinth]

And let's not forget treatment for their soap opera injuries

[ionic fern]

Acting lessons are also expensive, okay??

[warm plinth]

Where someone grazes the edge of their shirt and 2 seconds later they get thrown backward onto the ground by some invisible force

[warm plinth]

true

though if that's the case, I'm not sure they're paying enough for them

[mighty valley]

it is weird when nations get proud about which sport might cause more permanent injuries

like scottish people laugh at american football because they wear padding

[warm plinth]

but realistically the only reason I don't enjoy the sport is because even though they're running their asses off, the pitch is so fucking gigantic that it just looks like they're bored

[mighty valley]

even though american football players get a lot more permanent brain damage. hurray!!!!

[blazing condor]

i like football a lot but its not something i very actively focus on for 90 minutes

[loud patrol]

i dont enjoy it cuz its a team game

[ionic fern]

Jeah, wild.

[blazing condor]

just have it in the background

[jagged pier]

because they are allowed to jump at ppl with their head

thats the dumbest thing in the world

[warm plinth]

who is

[blazing condor]

isn't the actual playtime for superbowls like 10 minutes or something

cus of all the breaks between attempts and shit

[mighty valley]

yeah they line up so they can crash into each other at maximum speed

[warm plinth]

Well you have 4 15-min quarters and somehow that turns into a 3 hour game

[jagged pier]

no they do play the full time but they legit do stop for add breaks on tv

[ionic fern]

I had my cousins visiting from NA and they said that their son is playing handegg and he has:
-Messed up knees
-Broken bones countless of times
..and he's 17.

[blazing condor]

the actual play happening is very very fast

[ionic fern]

Youth well spent.

[warm plinth]

Yeah a play is like 10-15 seconds at the most usually

[blazing condor]

im not clowning on it

it makes sense

[mighty valley]

american sports are less about stamina for sure

just more about instantaneous moments where you can destroy your whole body

[loud patrol]

just like the country

[blazing condor]

why break your body by being physically active when you can sit at the pc all your life and fuck up your back, eyes and joints

[jagged pier]

already done m8

[blazing condor]

speedrun

[loud patrol]

we are on it

[warm plinth]

I sit at the PC all my life and my back and joints are fine, and Meatloaf said that 2 out of 3 ain't bad

[blazing condor]

(present me) 🤝 (future me regretting my life choices)

[loud patrol]

i should start going to the gym

[ionic fern]

I bought a gym membership once..paied in advance for a year for motivation.

Went 0 time.

Money well spent.

[cinder nova]

My man

Just go and pick shit up then put it back down

It's not hard

[blazing condor]

fuck thanks for reminding me i havent been to the gym for a month

went 3x a week

got sick

now i dont go

[jagged pier]

and wow out

so no time

[ionic fern]

I do that regulary with my coffee cup.

[blazing condor]

true ive played so much im already level 69

[mighty valley]

woah slow down dog

[jagged pier]

amazing what u can do when you dont play wow

[loud patrol]

world first here

[mighty valley]

there's only one more level left

[cinder nova]

I'm actually eating my own hand because I haven't been to the gym in a week and today I should've gone but I got sick.

[jagged pier]

even tho i used to go to the gym 6 times a week and play wow at uni just did no uni work

[cinder nova]

I didn't go last week because I fucked up my heel, but its fixed now

[blazing condor]

chad

[cinder nova]

Now I'm sick too

[ionic fern]

Good life choices.

😂

[blazing condor]

who needs an education anyway

i dont wanna be a part of your hamster wheel society

[jagged pier]

was a good time

[ionic fern]

Jeah, uni was fun.

[blazing condor]

i hate that people say uni is the best time of your life cus its almost over for me

[cinder nova]

Learn how to trade on the market then

[warm plinth]

If it makes you feel any better, I've had a gym membership that I've been paying for for like 7 years and haven't gone in 5

[mighty valley]

i did a degree in computer science and now i work on cartoons or whatever. what was the point

[blazing condor]

and im gonna kms if working life sucks

[cinder nova]

Stay away from crypto

[warm plinth]

But I have to go to the gym to cancel so I haven't cancelled it

[ionic fern]

It doesn't suck as long as you get something interesting.

[mighty valley]

well i guess i do game development too now. but they didn't tell me what that was like at uni

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/money-burning-engine-sailors-burning-money-gif-10398172

[ionic fern]

my man.

[warm plinth]

😂

[jagged pier]

if u get a job doing somthing u enjoy then its fine

[mighty valley]

at least my tuition was free in scotland

[loud patrol]

man i wish i knew what i want to do

[ionic fern]

Like sitting on discord yelling at people.

[jagged pier]

🤫

[warm plinth]

I went to college without any idea of what I wanted to do in life. Never did get a degree.

But my job is alright. Lets me talk to you jokers

[mighty valley]

who's supposed to know what they want to do for their whole life when they're 18

[warm plinth]

Right?

[blazing condor]

im getting a degree next summer but its not gonna directly correlate with a job

[loud patrol]

i wanna work in a lab and stuff but college is awful

[cinder nova]

The secret, boys, is that you don't need anyone's permission to do shit. You can just go and do it.

So just do whatever.

[warm plinth]

You're not wrong

[ionic fern]

Roughly the same.
-Go to Army after school cause no idea what to do.
-Go to Uni after Army cause no idea what to do.

Profit.

[cinder nova]

Absurdism is escape.

[blazing condor]

tried this now im facing 15 to life

[warm plinth]

There's this whole "you have to do this as an adult" and the beauty of it is, you actually don't

Like there's things you have to do of course, like pay rent

[mighty valley]

just tell them you're a dog with a crown and they can't send you to prison

[warm plinth]

But there's a lot of things that adults are supposed to do that you just don't have to do.

[cinder nova]

Be so free that your very existence is an act of rebellion to the cosmic lack of meaning.

[ionic fern]

Jeah, like go out.
Haaaah.

[warm plinth]

Yeah fuck going out

Who wants to go deal with the existence of drunk people

[blazing condor]

put in dog shelter and euthanized instead

[ionic fern]

Only time i go out is when my princess asks me to.

[loud patrol]

i like going out alone where theres a lot of people and separate my existance from them, like having a bubble around me

[ionic fern]

[mighty valley]

but you have a crown

[warm plinth]

You have a wifey Mwahi?

[cinder nova]

The fuck did I just read.

[loud patrol]

which of all

[warm plinth]

all which of

[ionic fern]

I meant my daughter in that sentence.

[warm plinth]

Oh lol

[lyric elm]

It's nice to see people have fun without feeling forced to interact with them

[warm plinth]

You have a spawn?!

[mighty valley]

i'm the other way around, have to occasionally extract my wife from playing wow to see our friends

[ionic fern]

Imagine going out if your wife asks, HAHAHAHAHHAHA. - A joke, no bully.

[warm plinth]

I hope she has more hair than you

[cinder nova]

Oh wow, I am extra fucked up. Yeah, that's not what was I expecting when he said princess.

[loud patrol]

[jagged pier]

THIS, the moment i realised i could say 'i cba' or im not going to do that was a good day

[ionic fern]

She does.

[warm plinth]

Is she as cute as you

[loud patrol]

is like listening to the music in a nightclub from the bathroom

[blazing condor]

mwahi just has a cool mohawk

[ionic fern]

Even cuter.
Already playing WoW.

Almost.

[warm plinth]

dawww

how old is she

?

[ionic fern]

9

[jagged pier]

have u taught her the way of the mohawk yet?

[ionic fern]

Someone's gotta do my WQ's after all.

[warm plinth]

Is she a prot war gamer

[cinder nova]

KEKW

[ionic fern]

Of course.

[warm plinth]

I'M MWAHI JR AND I'M A NIGHT ELF MOHAWK

[lyric elm]

Prot prodigy

[cinder nova]

Holy shit Mwahi is getting his daughter to do his dailies.

[blazing condor]

no dinner until you run 200 laps on this agility course, sweetie

[cinder nova]

That's actual comedy.

[ionic fern]

It's a ritual in my family - once they turn 14.

[warm plinth]

lmaooooo

[jagged pier]

POG

[warm plinth]

I would love to have a kid but I'm also terrified to have a kid

[loud patrol]

arent we all?

[cinder nova]

I could not, in good conscience, bring a child into this world.

This place is a shitfire.

[mighty valley]

always has been though

[warm plinth]

The super scary part is when people are like "oh everything will change when you have a kid" and I gotta be like yeah but what if it doesn't? I don't like RNG myself, you want me to subject my child to it?

[loud patrol]

what u mean u dont like to rng urself u already play wow

[warm plinth]

Like they'll encourage anyone to have a child; it's terrifying

[cinder nova]

Just wave your "I don't have a kid" money in their face.

[warm plinth]

Basically

[mighty valley]

i think if you feel only fear at the prospect of having a kid and no joy at all, then absolutely, no pressure

[loud patrol]

but tbh i can barely take care of myself and people want me to find a wife and have a child

[warm plinth]

Like nah I'll enjoy the single life where I can spend money on things that aren't covered in baby shit

[mighty valley]

but if it's a joyful idea that you're scaring yourself out of with a bunch of rationalizations then it's different

[cinder nova]

I'm so glad I met someone who doesn't want kids as much as me.

[warm plinth]

I have nieces I can borrow if I want to spoil a child

[ionic fern]

😂

[loud patrol]

same

[cinder nova]

My aunt and uncle have no kids and they have so many nice things and travel every year.

[blazing condor]

borrow lol

[cinder nova]

I can't wait to have that.

[warm plinth]

Yeah I'll be like sup, let me snag that baby from you for a min

[ionic fern]

Idk, watching videos of when she was young is heart warming.
Soon it's going to be all like "NO!! I don't want to do our weekly father-daughter dinner anymore cause i'm a teenager!! OH, I ALSO DON'T LIKE PROT WARRIOR JUST BECAUSE YOU LIKE IT!"

[warm plinth]

oooof

[mighty valley]

"prot warrior isn't meta this expansion DAD"

[cinder nova]

The one time I got strongarmed into babysitting my cousin's kids I gave them mountain dew all the way until their parents got them, and a king-sized chocolate bar to boot.

[warm plinth]

The worst thing a child can say to a parent

[loud patrol]

D:

[ionic fern]

Agreed.

[mighty valley]

honestly send them to child services

[warm plinth]

lmao

[loud patrol]

call cps

[cinder nova]

I haven't been asked to look after any kids after that.

[warm plinth]

Straight to the orphanage for you. We'll take you back when you change that community perception.

[blazing condor]

fellas what do you do if your daughter comes home and says she's a bear main

[mighty valley]

"dad... i'm sorry. i got good and i stopped watching tier list videos. can i come home now"

[warm plinth]

Mwahi: "this is the happiest day of my life"

[cinder nova]

Not until you parse 99.

[warm plinth]

except he says it in uh

[mighty valley]

cmon, she's 9 years old. any pink parse is ok

[warm plinth]

wait where are you even from Mwahi

[loud patrol]

we dont take furries

[ionic fern]

Estonia.

[warm plinth]

What language do you speak besides English

[ionic fern]

Estonian.

[blazing condor]

estonian id imagine

[warm plinth]

Well I didn't wanna just assume Estonian was a thing

lmao

[cinder nova]

[ionic fern]

😂

[blazing condor]

we only speak european here

[warm plinth]

Where you from dude? I'm from New York. Oh so you speak New Yorkian eh?

[cinder nova]

Oh wow, Blizz really put in details this expansion.

[blazing condor]

i mean new york isnt a country though :T

[loud patrol]

tbh it should be a language

[cinder nova]

I was AFK on some steps in Valdrakken and three black whelps were all staring at my character.

[warm plinth]

Isn't Estonia where the guy from uh

[cinder nova]

Then when I got up they all scattered.

[warm plinth]

fuck what is that movie

[blazing condor]

then again you can't assume americans actually speak english cus the US doesnt have an official language

[warm plinth]

Encino Man

[loud patrol]

change it bac

[warm plinth]

Isn't that where he was supposedly from

[mighty valley]

Encino Man was called California Man outside of the US

[warm plinth]

LOL was it really?

[mighty valley]

Yeah

[cinder nova]

Localization.

[warm plinth]

I guess because no one outside the US would know what the fuck Encino was

[mighty valley]

They were like "no one is gonna know what the fuck encino is"

which is funny because no one in the US outside of california knows where that is either

[warm plinth]

Yeah I had no idea what it was when I watched it

[ionic fern]

Jep.

[warm plinth]

You don't have to out Mwahi's profession here calc

[mighty valley]

I hear from Estonia at the eurovision song contest

[cinder nova]

Someone call an ambulance, man is having a stroke.

[loud patrol]

[ionic fern]

Aight, stop with this topic.

[blazing condor]

no more estonia allowed

1984

[warm plinth]

See what you did Calc

This is your fault

[loud patrol]

[mighty valley]

we were being so wholesome in here for a minute

[warm plinth]

Estonia is the country that Barney pretends to be from in HIMYM when he finally supports Marshall and Lily having a baby

[ionic fern]

Jeah, it's been thrown around in various shows.

Also on Family Guy.

[warm plinth]

I have the feeling the accent was not correct, as most of them aren't

[ionic fern]

Probably not.

[mighty valley]

whenever i tell people in the US that i'm from scotland they either ask me about Braveheart or the loch ness monster

[ionic fern]

At least they don't think you made your country up.

😦

[loud patrol]

when i tell people im from Ecuador they ask 1st where is that 2nd why arent i black

[warm plinth]

Fun fact, there's a somewhat unique accent in Lancashire and it's very underrepresented in American media. So when they did the movie Gone in 60 seconds, Christopher Eccleston refused to change his accent for the movie

[blazing condor]

all i ever get as a swede is mixed up with switzerland

[warm plinth]

So his accent in the movie is actually his natural accent

(he played Calitri, the bad guy)

[cinder nova]

I bet you know people that work in Norway.

[blazing condor]

i know of people who used to at least

[cinder nova]

[blazing condor]

its not dumb honestly

[cinder nova]

Duh, they're rich.

[blazing condor]

go work in norway for a summer or something

our economies are good but theirs is just better

[mighty valley]

half my guild was swedish back in my EU wow server days

[cinder nova]

I wanna move out of the US and set up in Finland for that tasty UBI and everyone standing 8 ft. away so they leave you the fuck alone.

[mighty valley]

which was like. over 15 years ago

jesus christ i got old

[loud patrol]

mine were polish kurwa

[blazing condor]

[warm plinth]

I wanna move to Belize because I fell in love with the idea of it when I saw pictures of it

And it's apparently very cheap to live there

[loud patrol]

god its been 10 years

[blazing condor]

me thinking about how cata wasn't that long ago and the story and all was just a few years ago

cue 11 years'

[mighty valley]

our first kill of ragnaros was so cool. no please don't send me to the retirement home

[cinder nova]

I'm talking to a girl that's like 9 years younger than me and she constantly reminds me about all the expansions I think were just yesterday

[loud patrol]

grandpa time to take ur meds and go to sleep

[mighty valley]

for real i do have work tomorrow

[warm plinth]

I played in vanilla for a short time but I didn't hit max level until TBC because I rerolled at like level 46

[blazing condor]

sure you do

[mighty valley]

good night warrior gang

[loud patrol]

me too and its like 4 am here

[warm plinth]

Good night

[blazing condor]

sleep well

[loud patrol]

gn harrow i wont sleep yet

[warm plinth]

I'm not even off work yet

[blazing condor]

my 3 hour lecture ended up being on zoom cus my professor got sick

so guess who's not paying attention 😎

[cinder nova]

Is it true that the rest of the Nordic community stares at Finnish people when they speak like they grew a second head?

[loud patrol]

the dog's owner?

[blazing condor]

yes. Finns are weird culturally and just generally

danish/norwegian/swedish is all pretty much the same language

more or less

[warm plinth]

I also am weird generally

[cinder nova]

Icelandic, no?

[blazing condor]

finnish is a completely different language-family

[ionic fern]

Why? 👀
Estonian and Finnish are really-really similar.

[lyric geode]

Danish speaks like they have a stroke.

[blazing condor]

icelandic is more like old norse than modern scandi languages

[cinder nova]

Although my buddy Hjalti and I went to Copenhagen and 99% of the people he tried to speak Danish to couldn't catch a fucking word

[blazing condor]

you icelandic?

[cinder nova]

Icelandic accents thick.

Nah, US.

[blazing condor]

yeah you can really tell when someone is from iceland

[lyric geode]

Only Swedish is somewhat acceptable for hears.

[blazing condor]

my best irl friend is icelandic and ive been there a few times

its dope but different

[warm plinth]

I read that Iceland literally has a list of names you have to pick from to name your child

[blazing condor]

nah thats not really how it works

however

[cinder nova]

I hear Norwegian is the best language to learn since it seems to have the most intersection between Danish and Swedish.

[blazing condor]

their culture is that your last name is picked from your parent's name

[cinder nova]

So you can easily talk to everyone.

[ionic fern]

I think it's called "Finnic".

[blazing condor]

so if your dad is named bob you'd be bobson if you're a guy

[loud patrol]

i wanna name my kid Broxigar Saurfang

[hazy sinew]

is there a macro for shield charge and charge? for like prioritizing shield charge when its available?

[warm plinth]

That's not a thing you can do without fucking yourself over somehow

[cinder nova]

Just use the DN macro

[blazing condor]

you can make it but you shouldn't do it cus its better to have them separate

[hazy sinew]

DN?

[jagged pier]

u dont want that

[warm plinth]

Oh god

S

😂

[cinder nova]

Deez nuts

https://tenor.com/view/gotword-deeznuts-gottem-deez-nuts-gif-4394929

[loud patrol]

[hazy sinew]

and the reason why?

[jagged pier]

because SC isnt a charge

its a dps cooldown

[warm plinth]

Because SC and charge will cast at the same time

[jagged pier]

its used in a different situation to charge

[hazy sinew]

so I shouldn't use it as opener?

[ionic fern]

Don't do it.
Charge in - get the rage.
Shield Charge doesn't have a minimum range so you can use it AFTER charging.

[warm plinth]

No, that's what charge is for

[cinder nova]

Only time you want both at the same time is PVP with warbringer tbh

[jagged pier]

no

its used after avatar and demo

[cinder nova]

Get that fat burst.

SPEAKING OF OPENERS

what is ours

For ST

[hazy sinew]

ic. thanks

[warm plinth]

you press that one button

And then the other one

[toxic pewter]

What u guys sparking

[cinder nova]

ANSWER ME, JAKEY, YOU YELLOW FUCK

[loud patrol]

now that i think about it should we save our shield block charges or jsut use them all at once in long fights?

[warm plinth]

We had some conversation sparking in here for a while

[blazing condor]

[toxic pewter]

Ok I’ll scroll up

[warm plinth]

It's generally a bad habit to use them all at once because if you end up not tanking for a few seconds, you wasted uptime.

[cinder nova]

But shield slam damij

[blazing condor]

have they made any changes to max SB time uptime?

aka if you shield charge and blow 2 sb charges

[jagged pier]

i just charge-> ava-> rav -> demo -> SC-> TR -> TC -> normal rotation

[warm plinth]

You can use them back to back. I just mean you shouldn't use them like one after the other to get 12 seconds of uptime

[loud patrol]

so you have to "guess" how much time the encounter will take?

[blazing condor]

do we not pre rav anymore

[jagged pier]

well im doing it as i charge

as ava is off gcd

[blazing condor]

yeah ok thats what i thought

[cinder nova]

🤔 ...not Rav > Ava+Charge > Demo > etc.

[warm plinth]

Not really. You just press Shield Block, and if that one is running out and you still need to be blocking, you press the next one

[cinder nova]

?

[loud patrol]

huh

[warm plinth]

But like if I press 2 shield blocks right away, then I have 12 seconds of uptime. If I end up not tanking 6 seconds in because the boss is doing a long cast or something, I effectively wasted the 3 seconds or whatever of that cast time. If I'd held it, I could wait until after the 3 second cast and use it then so that I don't have that wasted uptime.

Now that probably doesn't matter as much these days, because it's really easy for us to have 100% uptime on Shield Block. But it's still a bad habit to get into imo

[sick tartan]

Stupid question because i know there are some great dungeon trinkets, but is the potion alchemist stone a bad choice for trinket for war tank?

[loud patrol]

has it ever been like a "bad" choise?

[warm plinth]

Alc stone is generally a decent trinket at the start of the expansion

[sick tartan]

That's what i said too

[warm plinth]

ok time to finish up and hopefully go home soon

bye friends

[loud patrol]

well is time for goodbye people

[blazing condor]

sleep well

[lyric geode]

Having 100% SB uptime, it gives you more dmg on SS. Having less is suicidal.

[lyric geode]

You are wrong. SB is also for dmg increase. And the sole reason for your immediate next pull is that you want to be in a position to refresh your SS buff that gives 25% more block value.

Press SS on cd. Press anything else to trigger SS to press it again. On outburst I believe for dmg is however thunderclap.

[uncut juniper]

So... what embellished item are we gonna focus? Whats the best item (slot) to spend your first sparks on?

[limber galleon]

So many keybinds… anyone feeling a bit overwhelmed? 😥

[uncut juniper]

didnt find sth in the guides

[strong forum]

Not on paper

I'd only pre-send rav in m+

In raid you send it with charge

[ionic fern]

It's already in my muscle memory. 😦

[ionic fern]

Don't you wanna TR->SC for the extra tick of DS from TR?

[jagged pier]

ah maybe i dunno ask nome he wrote the apl

im still waking up and dont actually know what i push in content

[ionic fern]

THE MACHINE DOES NOT DEFINE US. REBEL AGAINST THE MACHINE.

[jagged pier]

as its been like 5 days since ive done content on warrior

[ionic fern]

Tbh i don't even know what i'm using.
It feels like every time i charge in i use my CD's in a different order.

😂

[jagged pier]

yer

[uncut juniper]

Boys what are you crafting with your first sparks?

[hollow nebula]

Hey with "show of force" talent should i do revenge < thunder < sslam, if i dont need to protect 'of course

[ionic fern]

A lot of people go for the Shield.

I personally haven't crafted anything yet.

[jagged pier]

i made engi goggles because its tradition for me

[hollow nebula]

ive see you talking about opener, there is a pin about it ?

[ebon wren]

the basics are only a few, and shield block and ignore pain can be macro'd you technically dont need to bind them to a specific key

[uncut juniper]

yea i crafted engineer bracers for brez

[jagged pier]

no

u do not macro SB and IP

[lyric geode]

Uh....

[uncut juniper]

you mean the embellished one?

[heavy temple]

please dont do that

[ebon wren]

technically you can, especially if learning

[jagged pier]

thats even worse

if your learning

[lyric geode]

Macro the entire warrior rotation.

[ebon wren]

there's really no reason not to macro SB, I wouldn't macro ignore pain though

[heavy temple]

you can also play prot with a 2h weapon

[limpid anchor]

You can also shoot yourself, but I wouldn’t suggest it

[heavy temple]

just because you can doesnt mean it is advisable

[jagged pier]

yer there is

because u use it when u dont need it

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[jagged pier]

if its macroed

[ebon wren]

jakey it increases slam damage, why wouldn't you always use it

[uncut juniper]

when do we get our 2nd spark? next ID? or the week after?

[heavy temple]

You ragedump with IP

[ebon wren]

you would ignore pain before shield block??

[heavy temple]

You dont want to use SB, everytime you press IP

[lyric geode]

My advice, it is better to have a habit to apply every skill on each individual keybind than macro it like a retri pala.

[jagged pier]

if thats your mentality i cant fix it thats just horrendous

[ionic fern]

Wait, what are you macroing SB to?

[ebon wren]

if shield block is down, you're losing damage on shield slam. what situation would you not cast it?

I macro SB to slam actually

[jagged pier]

u wouldnt cast it if a boss is casting or u have a move out mechanic

or a packs about to die

u dont cast/ shouldnt cast SB if u dont need to block anything

[ionic fern]

You can get away with it now for sure.
Once you actually start doing RELEVANT content you will get punished.
It's your main mitigation tool o.o
If you cast it when the pack dies or when the boss goes AFK you just lost the benefit of it.

[ebon wren]

• unless you want shield slam damage. you realize it increases it by 30% right?

[drifting pecan]

Save it for next pull if trash dies in less then 8 secs , in that case SB is wasted

[ionic fern]

Yes, everyone knows that.

[jagged pier]

yes everyone knows that

[ebon wren]

christ. there's not a single case I wouldn't cast it

[jagged pier]

but thats not why u SB

i gave at least 3

[ionic fern]

Then you haven't done content high enough. 🙂

But the content you are doing is up to you.

[jagged pier]

using SB because it increases SS damage is not why u use it

[heavy temple]

You do realize, that spamming SB, means you are always at 0 charges, which means you might not have it for the next pull

[jagged pier]

if u think thats the case please reroll