Small but important
#protection
cinder nova
cobalt seal
And get banner to 2m
cinder nova
Leap resets taunt
cobalt seal
Take some time to dummy train
Banner will be your trial
Since its a ez way to know if you are progessing
pulsar sedge
For 2 days till you lose it ;D
pallid quiver
It's just an indicator that you're playing right
pallid quiver
It doesn't require you to change the playstyle
lofty drum
just tpend stuff?
pulsar sedge
Spam more
pallid quiver
Press more buttons
cobalt seal
Repeat
pallid quiver
You only have a cpm on IP of like 8.5 or something it was, which, even with wipes, is probably a bit too low for the rage you generated
pulsar sedge
Liberally apply forehead to keyboard en nauseum
lofty drum
can someone explain it
pulsar sedge
;D
pallid quiver
It's just
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Shield Slam
iirc
Makes ot so you make sure to spend rage before generating
cobalt seal
And lets you use other stuff
warm plinth
It goes on your IP button, not your SS button, to clarify
lofty drum
I put it on IP button but thanks @warm plinth xD
pallid quiver
Anyhow, I gotta stop looking at phone, but give a holler if you want any other advice/help. i didn't look at talents or amything as a heads up, so no comments on those
cinder nova
Yes
lofty drum
im only tracking shield block atm
pulsar sedge
They were saying use banner as an indicator of doing the rotation well on a dummy is all
pulsar sedge
Never
lofty drum
naah
pulsar sedge
Nor do we use whirlwind
mortal brook
no slam no ww
quaint slate
sweet
pulsar sedge
You can also remove rend if you have blood and thunder talent
lofty drum
can someone link me a banner WA? 😄
lofty drum
xD
NGL havent even read what it did untill now
appernalty it gives me mastery
pog
I used it for movement speed inbetween packs ❤️
pulsar sedge
It sounds like you are starting from square 1 on prot. You may want to read up on a rotation and basic guide
quaint slate
not square one, just havent gone over DF stuff yet
pulsar sedge
No, that was meant for brew
quaint slate
copper minnow
does spell reflect work on shared suffering on huntsman altimor boss?
quaint slate
Spell reflect works on rolls dice some stuff
copper minnow
wheres the s4 spreadsheet
we usedto have one for spell reflect in dungeons, i swear it did before
mellow quartz
wheres the s4 spreadsheet
cobalt seal
St or aoe?
lofty drum
on the training dummy u told me to hit
cobalt seal
So aoe
lone eagle
Good n'uff
cobalt seal
Keep going
cobalt seal
Thats better than
warm plinth
despite all your rage
lofty drum
and i use charge to gain some stuff
lone eagle
Make sure you are also utilizing DN to generate more rage
lofty drum
DEEZ NUTS?
lone eagle
Yes
lofty drum
or is DN something else
a man of culture
any WA kings out here btw?
need help fixing a WA I just downloaded to make it have a touch of claptin on it
brewtin*
nvm i fixed it
I just realized, the defensive stance says it reducses your damage by 10%
I tought it increased my dam ❤️
this is pgo
pog
hexed obsidian
You can also remove rend if you have blood and thunder talent
Wait wtf? Thought I had to apply rend on one target and thunder clap to spread to everything else
umbral cave
Nope. Thunderclap puts rend on your target as long as you’re talented into rend.
hexed obsidian
So basically remove rend from hotbar, correct?
warm plinth
Correct
hexed obsidian
Ungabunga time, less buttons to press
sharp bone
best time of ungabunga
candid gust
Are slam or whirlwind ever used as prot?
warm plinth
No sir
candid gust
So can remove from bars? No scenario ever when I'd use? 😄
warm plinth
Correct
candid gust
Thank ye lad/lass
warm plinth
yeeteth them away
paper iron
Prob a weird question, but anyone got a solid prot PvP? Gonna play bodyguard for my buddy lol
cyan glen
Our resident prot @zenith vale is running this. BkEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKLgAAAAASSikkgUSKikWBRICkAlkENgAQLkEBCEJAAAAAAAAAAoUKA
@paper iron
paper iron
Our resident prot <@143764641649131520> is running this. BkEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZG...
I'll take a look, appreciate it bud
paper iron
Will I ever really use hamstring realistically? Even in PvP Prot has an absurd amount of cc
warm plinth
Nearly free, 100% maintainable 50% snare seems silly to not use
silver nymph
So is leap the only option outside of nitro boosts and goblin racial that warriors have for movement?
warm plinth
well, you're leaving out other mobility racials but yeah, leap is the only unassisted mobility option that warriors have
pallid quiver
yeah walking places alone is suffering sometimes as a result
it feels really bad to have a massive, bungo jump
and then you just
hobble over to the next spot
warm plinth
need to have leaper baseline
warm plinth
Gave the lego to us twice, couldn't give it to us baseline 
winged creek
Should i leveling as prot or switch to fury till 70?
cinder nova
Yeah, and you can get a lot of instant damage and cleave from Shield Charge between mobs.
solar blade
true, prot leveling is fun and easy
glad nobody is 1v1'ing mobs anymore
its you vs the world
warm plinth
cinder nova
Really? Not even doing the pose.
cinder nova
Didn't he drop dead from juicing
river phoenix
heart attack in sauna
mental scarab
Born with a heart problem#rip
plush saffron
drugs and sauna in thailand
noble lynx
He fainted cause he had an erection in the sauna and his cock was too massive
river phoenix
Careful how you speak about our lord, he was a warrior main
cinder nova
Juicing not even once
jagged pier
no
river phoenix
epic
amber kelp
Does anyone heave a Weakaura that Shows If we are in Battle or Defensive stance but ALSO shows the 3 second Cooldown timer on it when switching between stances? Cant get that timer thing to work ><
amber kelp
haha still seems reasonable to use it as a defensive now and then no? :p
mental scarab
Healers have def cds also 
Huhu
Dps have dps cds wich kinda is a def cd when trash dies faster
cinder nova
Yeah, we want to use Def stance probably when we're undergeared in the first tier and during prog where tanks get hammered
paper iron
Have I been messing myself over running in defensive stance lol?
cinder nova
And in high keys
Since DPS usually is timing keys if you aren't being a clown, not you
warm plinth
Have I been messing myself over running in defensive stance lol?
Not really but you don't really need it until really really high keys
cinder nova
Plus surviving smoother makes bigger pulls easier and therefore means more cleave and faster clears
So
It's kind of like stacking HP. Generally, not necessary unless you're absolutely getting destroyed.
Even with a 10% damage nerf, you'll be doing plenty, and the missing 10% will be irrelevant in all but the highest bleeding edge of content, which 99.9% of us will not be doing.
If you wanna turtle you're not missing out much unless you're a parse monkey
paper iron
Gotcha gotcha. Yeah I’m trying to figure out what prob out. I can’t from an to server and plan on taking end game content seriously next xpac, so everything helps
mental scarab
Well my frends call me ape But prty close
outer thorn
Did they fix the bug for prot warriors where Brutal Vitality doesnt continue to add absorb to Ignore Pain after youve hit the cap once?
muted wren
Owh yeah test of might is backkk
warm plinth
3,180 primeval essence and 145.5k anima later...all 38 specs are 226+
blazing condor
paper iron
Holy shit son. I just got one tapped by an ele shaman in PvP
heady sapphire
how many m+ bossess in 10.0 will have an extra camera affix, like half of SoA was in Slands?
lyric elm
Can't think of any?
cinder nova
Holy shit son. I just got one tapped by an ele shaman in PvP
PvP "balance" in a prepatch.
I remember when Ret during the Wrath prepatch was fucking eating entire teams alive.
It was actually stupid amounts of damage
rocky sphinx
how many m+ bossess in 10.0 will have an extra camera affix, like half of SoA wa...
in academy on the last boss the camera can clip behind the banners
lone folio
Hey, how do you guys survive solo Shared Suffering in lower Kara? I seem to always die unless ppl stack
cinder nova
leap
Keep in mind that you can only "solo" it via leap jukes if he's about to phase anyway. Otherwise, he'll just wind it up right after he stomps over and put his sword up your ass sideways.
You are, quite literally, waiting to be saved by the bell.
lone folio
Thank you!
cinder nova
You can usually tolerate it with one other melee and a couple of big CDs, though.
You can also juke it with Intervene, but I'd advise against it unless you're very confident in your timings. Improper timings can either kill you or hack apart whatever poor sod you're zipping to if you go too early.
So then they're not ready to throw CDs to endure a 2-man soak, and will typically get bodied.
At least with leap you can aim somewhere that'll take him away from allies so if you do fuck it up, they can hopefully scrape you before it gets completely out of hand.
sturdy sable
I remember when Ret during the Wrath prepatch was fucking eating entire teams al...
Divine storm piped
stoic elm
where can i download mdt imports from for routes?
round delta
Hi, i'm having some rage issues, i think that is because i usually spam ignore pain "on CD" (when is on 0, i mean)
but i see streamers and they're not pushing the botton all the time
do you guys use on cd? cd for me means when ignore pain dissapear, use it again
round delta
i'm doing mithyc plus so are AoE situations normale
normaly
what does SS/TC means? i'm spanish and i don't understand some spells name
sorry ^^'
round delta
not really ^^'
i use block with shield ignore pain and revenge to waste the rage
but in some situations i want a ignore pain/block with shield but i'm out
maybe is not 100% necesary, maybe i just scares a bit, could be
round delta
i'll do some runs and try to give you some info
sturdy sable
Hi, i'm having some rage issues, i think that is because i usually spam ignore p...
You use ignore pain to dump extra rage not "on cd"
You should be casting shield slam and thunderclap on cooldown (including the shield slam resets) to generate that rage
solar blade
Does anyone heave a Weakaura that Shows If we are in Battle or Defensive stance ...
seems to be a problem with your timers on spells? or does every other cd gets displayed?
sturdy sable
You SHOULD be casting revenge to dump as much rage as you can with ignore pain being used for the "extra"
The only time you actively use ignore pain is to set up for a massive hit
solar blade
with IP talent youll cast it once an your cd dmg will pump it up also
sturdy sable
Actively meaning outside of using it to dump rages
sturdy sable
with IP talent youll cast it once an your cd dmg will pump it up also
Regardless of what talents you have ignore pain usage stays the same
Its a tool to allow you to not waste rage by over capping
round delta
shield slam
grave flower
7.4 seconds on shield slam?
mellow quartz
Just look at your haste % in the character sheet
lofty widget
you have this talent so youll never actually wait 7.4 seconds between shield slams
sturdy sable
7'4 seconds couldown in slam
If your spending rage youll get shield slame resets
Your not spending rage properly if your not getting resets
round delta
does matter in which spell do you waste your rage? or is just rage wasting?
lofty widget
read the talent, one of those 4 spells
round delta
sorry i'm idiot
mellow quartz
Don’t run barbaric training either.
In general seems you are just pressing IP to much instead of using it to avoid capping.
round delta
looking for a a DKB playstile, healing my self
solar blade
you are just muscle memoring wrong shit
lofty widget
just have shield block up and you wont need it
cobalt seal
This might be a case of pressing the wrong keys
but we would know for sure with a log
solar blade
many people have charge on 1 or 2 or mouse button for example but stop putting uselesa abilities on prime keybinds for god sake
lofty widget
it's all preference tbf
cobalt seal
many people have charge on 1 or 2 or mouse button for example but stop putting u...
keybinds are personal pref
cobalt seal
not really
the problem right here isn't keybinds
well. we dont know the problem we just trow darts at a wall
blind*
solar blade
sure 2 is a good bind thats not the thing
but he puts weird non rotational stuff on it
for no reason at all
round delta
is a mix of both of you
solar blade
like 2 is easier to press then P or K for example
cobalt seal
is a mix of both of you
How do i log ?
So, if you have been here for a while, you may have noticed that whenever somebody ask for advice we ask them for a log, and if you’re new you might have no idea what that means or how to get one so :
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Alternatively if you don’t want to install an addon for it, whenever you are going to do an activity you want to log type /combatlog in chat to start logging said activity.
Remember to activate advanced logging in the options
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do that
post it here
solar blade
overusing mousebuttons wont save you
cobalt seal
and people will help you
cobalt seal
overusing mousebuttons wont save you
....
and people will help you out figuring what's wrong
round delta
How do i log ?
So, if you have been here for a while, you may have noticed that ...
doing that
cobalt seal
🙂
round delta
but ye, i'm aggre that i'm not pushing the good keys
cobalt seal
press Shield Slam press Thunderclap press Revenge press IP once in a while
press your "bigger"cd's on CD
repeat
eager schooner
i hope 6 is on his mouse or that he has massive big dick hands
mellow quartz
If they are bound to an mmo mouse it means nothing.
round delta
yep
i've 1-12
shift 1-12, control 1-12 (not all binded)
but 1-6 is the confy zone even with a mmo mouse
i've the charge in the 5 cause i've it from The burning crusade XDD
imposible to not be there
mellow quartz
Whatever works for you 🤷♂️
heady sapphire
for the mental health
thunderclap icon is horrible btw
craggy pilot
for the mental health
why Execute on 4 though 🤔
toxic pewter
My execute is on 3 tbh
round delta
hahaha
craggy pilot
execute is barely used on Prot
toxic pewter
It used to be used a lot
round delta
i'll but all buffs on 1-4
craggy pilot
i have it on some weird shit like Ctrl+5
round delta
You don't use it in Execute zone?
toxic pewter
Execute prob shouldn’t be used as much in df though from what I gather though yea
round delta
not even a push?
sturdy sable
You don't use it in Execute zone?
No you do im memeing
craggy pilot
You don't use it in Execute zone?
you can, but its such a small gain
sturdy sable
Better off just opening the spell book and clicking to cast it maybe
craggy pilot
saw Nome say something like in ST its a 600 dps loss to not click Execute, unless you get Sudden Death proc
lofty widget
it's only a dps increase to use it on 1 target, at 2+ targets revenge is more dmg
craggy pilot
it's only a dps increase to use it on 1 target, at 2+ targets revenge is more dm...
and even in ST its only 600dps
lofty widget
yep 
craggy pilot
so should probably just click it when procced, or if you really like the animation
toxic pewter
silent anchor
So basically unbind it?
sick sentinel
not asking anything else or asking anything else but how long will the silence last
sturdy sable
saw Nome say something like in ST its a 600 dps loss to not click Execute, unles...
Fucking WOOOF man
sick sentinel
been close to 24 hours so figured i'd ask that
sturdy sable
Howd you get silenced yogi
sick sentinel
stop
asking
dumb
questions
and trying to bait me into getting re-banned again
sturdy sable
Damn you bout to get your alt account silenced as well
No im actually curious i dont troll this disc 24/7 and usually your pretty wholesome so
sick sentinel
when i laid out im not interested asking/answering otheer questions related to question i asked
sturdy sable
You could even DM me if you want im legit just curious
sick sentinel
okay, well if you know nothing at all of the situation our conversation is closed
amber kelp
seems to be a problem with your timers on spells? or does every other cd gets di...
No problem With any other timer. Think my problem is I'm tracking the defensive or battle stance aura/buff but that doesn't have the cooldown of switching stances attached to it
knotty idol
Once we get set bonus we're going to be pressing revenge every few seconds to keep the buff up even in ST right? So does that mean even in pure ST execute phase it will often be better to spend rage on revenge instead of execute?
knotty idol
That's so sad lmaooo
knotty idol
knotty idol
I think timed but they can overlap?
cobalt seal
Im sure you can try to ping everyone again to figured it out again
sweet summit
why don't you ask a mod
sick sentinel
cough jakey appears,
sweet summit
not a mod
sick sentinel
ask specific moderation question
jagged pier
im not a mod
sweet summit
🤔
toxic pewter
The execute situation actually feels bad
lyric elm
When do you want to execute then
sweet summit
on single target to spend rage offensively
craggy pilot
When do you want to execute then
when Sudden Death is procced
toxic pewter
No I mean apparently it’s not good to use with tier set or something
sweet summit
we don't have tier sets now
toxic pewter
True
craggy pilot
yes, for a small gain
lyric elm
When does it feel good
craggy pilot
very small
lyric elm
Would it feel good as a gain on 5 targets?
craggy pilot
Would it feel good as a gain on 5 targets?
wdym?
Execute is not more dmg than a 5 target Revenge
toxic pewter
I guess I was referring to the tier set and execute situation. Seems awkward
lyric elm
Jesus
lofty widget
When do you want to execute
probably as it was in SL, but thats hard to balance without making our ST way too crazy
lyric elm
Yes that was fun
craggy pilot
I guess I was referring to the tier set and execute situation. Seems awkward
it does, and its the same situation for other specs unfortunately, fx Arms press Cleave in ST because of Tier
lofty widget
at least is should be a dps increase on like 1-3 targets imo
lyric elm
probably as it was in SL, but thats hard to balance without making our ST way to...
We'd have to reduce it to 15% range or something to make it a gain on 5
toxic pewter
it does, and its the same situation for other specs unfortunately, fx Arms press...
Ya true I do that in beta when I was playing arms. Used cleave over slam
lyric elm
And make it giga deeps
craggy pilot
Ya true I do that in beta when I was playing arms. Used cleave over slam
giga weird tbh
lyric elm
Execute is not more dmg than a 5 target Revenge
Read everything I said and you will find enlightenment
strong forum
Execute was better on 3 or less targets
toxic pewter
giga weird tbh
It’s because of the tier set… certain builds you cleave over slam. It depends on the situation (m+ build mostly if I recall correctly)
strong forum
And that was the perfect split
craggy pilot
It’s because of the tier set… certain builds you cleave over slam. It depends on...
i know, but its a weird design is what i mean
toxic pewter
i know, but its a weird design is what i mean
Oh right. Yea agreed
neon elk
So should i remove execute from bars / move it to something more out of hand ?
lyric elm
It's a gain on ST
sand torrent
Is it worth to farm the dragon glyphs first befor you start grinding quests at the start of df?
slim dove
there really isn't a whole lot to do until 2 weeks after launch besides a m0 world tour or two
do whatever you like imo
slim dove
yup
sand torrent
Because someone said you play until you get the dragon riding skill and then you farm those first and then start questing in two days
slim dove
Unless I missed a vital piece of info somewhere, there really isn't any need to be giga sweaty the first 2 weeks
orchid torrent
there isnt any need to be giga sweaty... period
sand torrent
Because release is in two days?
jagged pier
hazy thicket
Think that's just bad grammar
hazy thicket
👌
slim dove
by giga sweat i just mean stressing over being optimal.
level to 70 in 6 hours, go do stuff, do m0 tour, afk for 2 weeks
or do the same on alts
sand torrent
👍
slim dove
stuff
high drum
is the hammer from the m0 dun dun worth waiting and stacking a tradable group for?
forgething
sand torrent
What hammer?
high drum
was doing crazy damage for me on beta
slim dove
Forgestorm.
slim dove
I mean if it continues doing crazy damage into live and gets past first tuning pass, why not
what % of your damage was it doing over dungeons?
slim dove
I really hope it gets trashed by nerfs but if its that strong, dont got much of a choice
idle delta
there really isn't a whole lot to do until 2 weeks after launch besides a m0 wor...
Explore the open world (turn off quest tracker and take it easssssy)
Will take the 2 weeks to level up
lyric geode
Are professions any good except alchemy?
Also. Since Neltharus isnt on m+ yet, I fail to see how it is a problem.
For Forgestorm
but yeah, if it was on m+ it would be awesome
limpid anchor
Professions for cos
slim dove
Also. Since Neltharus isnt on m+ yet, I fail to see how it is a problem.
thats good, glad to hear
ripe cave
Do we have a rotation guide for dragonflight yet? Or is most things relatively the same.
vagrant relic
Hey guys, why do we need Slam if Revenge costs the same, deals more damage and AOE's? Thanks in advance for the answer
jagged pier
we dont need slam
vagrant relic
So get rid of it?
vagrant relic
Danks
jagged pier
Do we have a rotation guide for dragonflight yet? Or is most things relatively t...
theres no defined rotation for the sspec its a prio that changes depending on many factors eg number of mobs around, current rage, what is on and off cd etc etc
dim harbor
theoretically speaking, if you had a way to change defensive stance to be double it's current effect.. would you do it?
jagged pier
no
grave crane
20% dr is good enough for a toggle tbh and we don’t even really use D stance yet
jagged pier
perma 40% dr is just broken
lyric geode
You could theoritcally pull the entire dungeon.
opaque vine
tbh it feels like prot warrior is tuned around actually being in d stance
err
battle stance**
jagged pier
i dont think we arent tuned around d stance tbh anymore, well our damage isnt anyway
lyric geode
The thing with -% is that, its exponential value. Meaning from 10-20 isnt a lot but a 40-50 is. Learned it from eu4.
vagrant relic
https://tenor.com/view/jim-and-pam-yes-gif-21499107
Excuse me for bothering you but what's the point of whirlwind if revenge damages about the same and costs 1/3 less
jagged pier
there isnt one
vagrant relic
so just spam revenge?
knotty idol
I'd personally love if you had to toggle between the stances like there was some insentive to swap maybe the effect of the stance is doubled for say 10 seconds then you get a reduced effect so you're encouraged to weave both stances and you don't just sit in b stance for low keys and d stance in high keys
jagged pier
so just spam revenge?
that and IP
wheat stirrup
what profs yall going and why?
vagrant relic
find a person using their ip to have a revenge on them or what
sturdy sable
Blacksmith so i can sure up my shield/wep slot
jagged pier
mining and engineer because ive benen that since classic
lyric geode
There is an incentive. If you tank swap and you dont have any mob to tank. You can go battle stance.
pallid quiver
herbalism alchemy for the flavor of no-magic man covering up weaknesses with performance enhancing drugs
sturdy sable
There is an incentive. If you tank swap and you dont have any mob to tank. You c...
You probably wont use d stance in raid much
lyric geode
On mythic raiding?
sturdy sable
Maybe busters
jagged pier
on the last few bosses of mythic in prog u will
pallid quiver
As far we know for the current tuning, you'd mostly be in battle stance
Prog on harder hitting bosses it might see use
sturdy sable
Dstance woulda been nice for sire D prog lol
pallid quiver
but you're not always actively tanking in raid and a lot of the hardest hitting stuff is generally scripted, so
sturdy sable
but you're not always actively tanking in raid and a lot of the hardest hitting ...
Which you should already be covering with a cooldown which we have a plethora of
Just adding to what you said luerce
lyric geode
we say the same thing.
pallid quiver
Yeah, so outside of probably last few bosses, it won't see much use
vagrant relic
Rend is good? Sounds like twice the damage of revenge for the same price isn't it?
lyric geode
I cant believe we dont agree on something that we all agree.
pallid quiver
unless they also hit like wet noodle, in which case lmao dstance for nerds
sturdy sable
Rend is good? Sounds like twice the damage of revenge for the same price isn't i...
You talent into it but dont press it
vagrant relic
why tho?
sturdy sable
Iirc the talents name is blood and thunder (i dont look at names jusg effects) and that casts rend for you
slim dove
because tclap applies it
pallid quiver
blood and thunder makes t clap apply
pulsar sedge
With blood and thunder talent, TC puts rend on everything
slim dove
read your talents lol
vagrant relic
Oh thanks]
pulsar sedge
Basically.. Take it off your bars and free rends with TC ;D
sturdy sable
But you need the point in rend for blood and thunder to work
lyric geode
Guys, dont be harsh. We are all in this channel to learn from each other.
vagrant relic
And where is that talent if u don't mind me asking?
sturdy sable
Guys, dont be harsh. We are all in this channel to learn from each other.
No people should really read talents before asking questions
rotund thicket
yo bois, at what rage amount is execute worth pressing?
pallid quiver
Rather than reading talents, it's in the pins
slim dove
Guys, dont be harsh. We are all in this channel to learn from each other.
nobody was harsh
sturdy sable
yo bois, at what rage amount is execute worth pressing?
The damage scaling is linier it doesnt matter how much
pallid quiver
"------------Rend------------
How does Blood and Thunder work?
With Blood and Thunder and 
Rend talented, Thunderclap 
automatically applies Rend to 5 targets it hits.
- No you dont need Rend on your bars"
from nome
vagrant relic
Thanks
mystic sleet
Someone could explain ne how spellblock works to non Blockanke Hits ?
lyric geode
No people should really read talents before asking questions
ok, I get it. But sometimes, information is in your face but you cant see it.
jagged pier
yo bois, at what rage amount is execute worth pressing?
it doesnt matter about rage it matters about what else in on cd and if your teir set is about to drop
sturdy sable
ok, I get it. But sometimes, information is in your face but you cant see it.
#skill issue
lyric geode
Someone could explain ne how spellblock works to non Blockanke Hits ?
You could block magic dmg. You dont spell reflect.
mystic sleet
You could block magic dmg. You dont spell reflect.
I mean for example the missiles of medivh
knotty idol
I hope there are big damage spells to reflect, I love watching mobs nuke themselves
pulsar sedge
Check the pins, there is a SR chart up
lyric geode
I mean for example the missiles of medivh
I dont know what it is. But if it is magic dmg, spell block and shield block.
jagged pier
I mean for example the missiles of medivh
it just reduces the damage like blocking
mystic sleet
How much?
rotund thicket
it doesnt matter about rage it matters about what else in on cd and if your teir...
i usually press execute only if im on ST (or Prio target) and nothing else is rdy, thats the way to go, right?
lyric geode
#skill issue
The other guy was asking about spell block. As I said, we are all here to learn.
Pros or Noobs.
mystic sleet
the same as blocking somthing does
Ah nice ty
jagged pier
i usually press execute only if im on ST (or Prio target) and nothing else is rd...
u press it when both SS and TC are on cooldown, and your tier set isnt going to drop so its very niche, u dont just spam it like before
knotty idol
When talent tree was first revealed I seen juggernaut and the crit/execute damage nodes and was really excited to try a big execute build as prot but
jagged pier
yer it was tested
did less damage
than SS sb uptime
because of all the nerfs to execute
pulsar sedge
"You have been weighed, measured, and found wanting"
ripe cave
Wait did i read that right? We are primarily using battle stance over defensive stance? Maybe switching to defensive during big hitting raid mechanics?
jagged pier
no its dependant on how comfortable u are
but 99% of ppl will not do content where d stance is needed
but its a very personal thing
lyric geode
Battle stance is more dmg. If can keep yourself alive with battle stance, why not?
ripe cave
Yeah true. I dunno why i never really thought about it.
Makes alot of sense to just sit in battle stance if you arent dying haha.
lyric geode
Yeah, and with how much survivability prot warrior has. It is really too much the defensive stance.
pulsar sedge
The age old "Why do i need more defense if i just hit it harder and it dies faster" 😄
lyric geode
They make a tank that doesnt use tank buff. - Wow balance and dev team.
sturdy sable
I always suggest ppl who learn tanking do it with the least amount of extra defensive things taken that way when you do hit a wall you have extra options to try
jagged pier
remove the 10% or balance our damage around and ill be in it all the time
lyric geode
I always suggest ppl who learn tanking do it with the least amount of extra defe...
Agree
Good advice.
Start with defensive stance when you try something new. Switch to battle stance when you are comfy.
To be honest. When m+ goes live and forgestorm would be available on m+, there is going to be a big flame on wow community of how broken it is.
ripe cave
Is forgestorm available in the current m+ pool?
slim dove
no
outer thorn
can you valor upgrade m0 drops?
ripe cave
And is it right that execute isnt looking worth it in dragonflight?
jagged pier
it is worth it
pulsar sedge
It will still be worth using
But when you get your tier set, you will have to juggle revenge and execute during execute phase to keep your 2/4 piece from falling off
silver nymph
There is no reason to have blacksmithing anymore because nothing is BOP. Is that right?
ripe cave
Thanks for answering my questions guys.
pulsar sedge
I mean.. if you want to craft stuff without the AH.. Then yes, you still need BS
oak echo
There is no reason to have blacksmithing anymore because nothing is BOP. Is that...
yes and no. you can do work orders to get any BOP item made. but you can't guarantee you're going to get the highest quality (ilvl) pieces
pulsar sedge
Nor can you guarantee they wont charge an arm and a leg ;D
oak echo
true
so the cheapest and only guaranteed way to get the highest possible crafted items is still to be that profession
pulsar sedge
^
near flicker
and recrafting it if your stat priorities change
pulsar sedge
tender cove
Havent been paying attention whatsoever the past monthish... How happy or sad I am? How is everything looking and feeling?
Who gets to be top dog and who is bottom of the barrel going live tomorrow?
sweet summit
very happy
tender cove
Sad. Was hoping i just misread the timezones or smt. Guess its another 24 hours 😦
sweet summit
who's ontop tomorrow is turbo irrelevant as there is no real content to do
tender cove
who's ontop tomorrow is turbo irrelevant as there is no real content to do
Do you think they will balance all tanks a lot before raids open?
Or will it mostly stay as it is?
sweet summit
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tender cove
I will play warr, regardless. I'm just curious 🙂
sweet summit
probably more tuning to come
pulsar sedge
Trying to predict what blizz will do is a futile endeavor lol
median niche
There is always tuning after first week of heroic
tender cove
Trying to predict what blizz will do is a futile endeavor lol
Not predict as looking into a crystal ball but I sorta expect the community to have good enough grasp to know the outliners, if any. And what is likely to come.
tender cove
There is always tuning after first week of heroic
everything opens same week
sweet summit
first week of heroic is also first week of mythic
median niche
first week of heroic is also first week of mythic
Oh lord. So when raids open you can do mythic?
sweet summit
ye
tender cove
Oh lord. So when raids open you can do mythic?
yup
sweet summit
all but lfr opens at the same time
pulsar sedge
Lets be honest, unless they are SEVERELY undertuned, they wont be doing mythic day 1 tho
sweet summit
you never know
tender cove
They probably will. Mix and match gear for what they can get
pulsar sedge
What is it, 50 ilvl difference from M0 gear to mythic boss drops?
tender cove
Nobody wants to be behind just as much as nobody wants to hit the wall
tender cove
day 1 is defo normal and hc splits for tier and shit
def, but I'm also 99% certain we'll see at least one boss dead on day 1
forest fern
I mean the “claim” they aren’t tuning around longer world first racing anymore, so the difficulty for those players might be easier now etc
pulsar sedge
372 for M0, 415 first boss mythic
sweet summit
i won't deny that it's possible but i doubt it
sick sentinel
my warrior still has a 272 shield
pulsar sedge
Funneling for tier will be better for their time than attempting content above them tbh
sweet summit
previous xpac launches you had a full weekly reset to do normal, heroic and limited m+ for gear before mythic release - which is a huge step up from m0
tender cove
i won't deny that it's possible but i doubt it
I doubt rwf will bother with the time investment on day one. But it will be a huge thing to get the world first kill. Its a reputation booster, specially if you're in the 50-100 world bracket.
sick sentinel
cant even valor up the shield i have now
sweet summit
don't think any real competitive guilds care about first boss world rank lol
pulsar sedge
@sick sentinel uhh.. THere is a 278 shield in uld?
tender cove
yeh. but how many are competitive after first page? Thats what, 25 guilds?
How many names do you know outside the first 10?
tender cove
Out of them all was the point. Even if it means very little on the context of rwf, it's still a huge achivement that will make a nobody guild get their 15 minutes of fame. Thats why im sure it will happen on day 1
sweet summit
i guess yeah
pulsar sedge
Eh.. after 15min, they are still nobody tho...
Tbh, most people dont even care what the bigs do
sweet summit
wasnt this the case in sepulcher
pulsar sedge
They care about advice the bigs give about bosses and strategy.. Other than that, most dont care
errant oriole
so this might be a BIG what if but do yall think bliz will nerf prot wars defense wise?
pulsar sedge
Eh idk. We arent godlike or anything
errant oriole
true true
spring umbra
didnt shadowlands servers open up a bit early? or was it spot on?
uncut notch
Guys is BSV broken?
Trying to test it out to make wa’s and stuff
And it just refuses to proc
On live sever not beta, using tanking dummy
ebon wren
is it really two weeks before m+
pulsar sedge
Yes
chrome falcon
same as always
ebon wren
gonna be rough lol
chrome falcon
i'm happy to have time to juice alts and proffs tbh
ebon wren
m0 at least right?
pulsar sedge
Yes, you can do m0s
outer thorn
you can still join m0 groups even if youre locked out of loot right? just to get used to mechanics etc
orchid frigate
havent really kept track of professions. is it something i should pay more attention to?
pulsar sedge
Yes, no loot tho
outer thorn
I figured I might aswell help some friends do their world tours
uncut notch
Guys is BSV broken?
update, no, after 5000 attempts it procs
pulsar sedge
Uhh not sure what you mean. Just popped it on and pulled some mobs.. Procced right at 30% @uncut notch
It does have a cd of 3min tho
dim harbor
I ended up sending a bug report in anyway for my previous question as nice as it is.. there could be other warriors in a similar state.
ie: you can have legacy defensive stance and current defensive stance active at teh same time, and they stack.
had a permanent shield wall basically, and it persists through logout.
they must have messed something up in consolidating the buffs, because you can't even remove the legacy buff. You could just be in both battle and defensive at the same time
outer thorn
Battensive stance new meta
dim harbor
I mean I had fun for 48 hours with it lol
thin silo
RIP your damage, though
dim harbor
well it was 20% less damage.. but 40% DR (shield wall) could have helped push content early on lol
I asked a random warrior last night what he saw.. but for a short time I could have been a super warrior
sweet summit
how old is that legacy defensive stance
dim harbor
I hadn't played since shadowlands season 1.. so then? hah
dim harbor
it is yeah
sweet summit
epic
dim harbor
I couldn't remove it, couldn't click it off etc.. was just always active hah
they disabled the spell but didn't purge people who had it currently on is my guess
sweet summit
what if you spec arms and then swap
dim harbor
persisted, I only lost it when I died earlier really pushing the limits of what I could pull while solo lol
but I've had it for the last 3 days and couldn't get rid of it hah
sweet summit
love that for you
late spruce
Any good links on general thoughts where prot will be? Been thinking of maining prot next expansion instead of fury.
sweet summit
it will be a tank that's for sure
nate said tanks are pretty well balanced atm so i trust him 
jagged pier
they are, shouldnt matter anyway, just play what u enjoy
sweet summit
real lore
keen rune
what professions are you all leveling and why ?
cobalt seal
mining eng because that's the ones I always lvl
sweet summit
engi alch because that's the ones I always lvl
cobalt seal
because they dont really matter
cobalt seal
engi alch because that's the ones I always lvl
sweet summit
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pulsar sedge
They added a real AH to the main city this xp, so dropping eng for inscription to play with the darkmoon decks early
ebon wren
how do you recraft gear - just find a blacksmith?
pulsar sedge
( not a cool kid with the bronto )
coral marsh
Can someone link me the bluepost where it says dinars will be deleted in dragonflight?
also did they say what else will be deleted, like honor and conquest?
or flux
sweet summit
honor, valor and conquest usually get reset when a new patch releases
idk if they are nuking dinars, i see no reason to do so
loud patrol
ok ill be a tank i guess
cobalt seal
pretty much everything thats currency gets deleted
that reminds me
I need to spend valor xD
coral marsh
some people are saying there was a blue post about dinars but i couldnt find it and it sounds like rumor
coral marsh
can you link me the post?
cobalt seal
because the quests will get deleted
lofty widget
why does it matter if theyre gettin gremoved?
cobalt seal
and the vendors will vanish
coral marsh
please give me a link
cobalt seal
google it
coral marsh
i tried
coral marsh
link please senpai
coral marsh
ty
slim herald
Hi everyone. I’m trying to learn how to tank as war in DF. I run out of rage fast then I try to have IP and SB op all the time so can someone here help me a bit? I’m coming from prot pala and other tanks so I’m not new to tanking
sweet summit
IP is not a maintenance buff
it's a way to dump rage defensively and/or an off gcd rage spender
loud patrol
what is the right time to dump rage on IP
pallid quiver
When you'd cap rage otherwise is the closest thing
Which is quite often
It doesn't sound like it, but we can gen a lot of rage
sweet summit
you just kinda use it to avoid overcapping, or you smooth out rough incoming damage
cobalt seal
xD
tank rotation is mostly on the spot decisions
outside of the general rotation of 123
outer thorn
well it makes sense to think of it as more of a priority list than a rotation
sweet summit
i mean it's just a regular priority list like any other spec but you have to think a bit more about defensive cooldowns
pallid quiver
mods help can we ban cro for bringing up my ptsd of tank rotations in ff14 for like 70% of levels
the 123, it haunts me
sweet summit
idk what that means but no
cobalt seal
mods help can we ban cro for bringing up my ptsd of tank rotations in ff14 for l...
123
pallid quiver
FF14 tank rotations are literally pressing 123 over and over for most of the levelling experience
Since buttons "combo" into each other
The worst part is you often get dragged into low level instances where your rotation is limited to that of the intended level for the dungeon
drowsy ruin
hey can u solo tank jailor on normal
pallid quiver
yeah it's fine at max
im pretty sure there's a tank swap mechanic based around destroying pylons last i checked
drowsy ruin
damn
sweet summit
u can ignore that mechanic and phase early
but that requires a bit of raid dps
and externals for the tank
drowsy ruin
its a shit pug
sweet summit
i would not bank on it then
slim herald
Okay. Then I die people say I need to have IP up more then I do so are SB better to have up then IP? Else I need som help to the basic thinks
slim herald
hey can u solo tank jailor on normal
I have not tried yet
sweet summit
don't listen to people that don't know how to play the spec
SB is way better than IP as mitigation (assuming the damage you take is blockable (which is the majority of damage)
olive steeple
How are prot warriors in m+ environment in terms of stops and utility compared to other tanks?
sweet summit
idk what other tanks have but warrior has:
AP shout
Spell reflect
Rally
Spear of bastion
Intervene
1 low cd ranged st stun
1 low cd aoe stun
1 high cd 5 target fear
slim herald
So I need to have SB up as much as possible? How do you keep rage up? I can only find spender ability’s
chilly brook
So I need to have SB up as much as possible? How do you keep rage up? I can only...
No
You need to block as much damage as possible
There’s a difference
sweet summit
you generate rage through shield slam and thunder clap as well as some passive generators
jagged pier
idk what other tanks have but warrior has:
AP shout
Spell reflect
Rally
Spear of...
we dont run spear in m+
chilly brook
Shield slam and thunderclap
sweet summit
it's niche and idk the dungeons
olive steeple
idk what other tanks have but warrior has:
AP shout
Spell reflect
Rally
Spear of...
Is intervene useful at all?
chilly brook
Plus your bleeds generate rage
sweet summit
so better safe than sorry
jagged pier
missed inturpt shout
chilly brook
Is intervene useful at all?
Yes
sweet summit
Is intervene useful at all?
not really without safeguard
chilly brook
Not as much as it is with reprisal but it can be
chilly brook
It’s an extra mobility button and it can be used to delete mechanics
fast knot
I used it a fair bit on Temple 3rd boss to get out of circle but otherwise 🤷
slim herald
I think I have to try it out in keys and open space
tender cove
If you only have 4 proffesions to pick (2 chars) and the goal is useful and try to stay gold neutral (getting what I need without spending gold, i dont have to make massive amounts)
What would you pick and why?
sweet summit
mining engi
herb alch
QoL
tender cove
no bs?
sweet summit
you can if you want it
chilly brook
You don’t need to do any profs tbh
tender cove
Just thinking about the trade orders stuff for crafted gear
fast knot
Can't you just work order the pieces you'd want anyway?
sweet summit
You don’t need to do any profs tbh
need wormhole,,,
tender cove
still gives the double duration bonus i suppose?
sweet summit
if/when you go phial spec ye
tender cove
they brought back the specializations for each proff? Like elixirs mastery or w/e they were called back in the day?
odd tree
Intervene is nice for arms still
sweet summit
kinda yea but you unlock all of them eventually
odd tree
Can cheese mechanics by popping dbts and intervening the target of a melee attack
sand drum
Hello and goodevening/day/morning
been wondering what professions to pick up (raiding and m+ currently)
Alch(flask duration) + engi (for portal)
would you skip 1 and go gathering for 1 of them and pick X up later in patch when prices are not giga ?
herb/alch or mining/engi
might be wrong forum but 🤷♂️ playing warr so 😛
past drum
wormhole overrated
but engi can do mass rez now so worth thinking about. (think its bound unlike brez one)
chilly brook
Rezzing is a healer problem
severe hatch
Only soft power comes from alchemy/engi as far as I'm aware
Anything else would be more suited to a wow economy discord
past drum
Rezzing is a healer problem
im just thinking of the pulls where tank is last alive and finishes the pull and just waiting for others.
sand drum
^ agreed
tulip kelp
Do you have to choose phial spec over potion spec to get the double flask duration?
sand drum
mainly interested in alch trinket potentially + the alch passive
guess engi is just for some items ? hearing gear is coming back ?
craftable *
tulip kelp
Cause potion spec gives you extra potion duration right? Seems hard to choose double flask over that
past drum
Do you have to choose phial spec over potion spec to get the double flask durati...
just get to 50 skill and get both
also its only noncombat pots that extend
chilly brook
Cause potion spec gives you extra potion duration right? Seems hard to choose do...
Last I checked potion spec seemed pretty underwhelming
floral basin
what is gonna be your leveling talent build ?
charred ivy
nice video about prot warrior pinned 🙂 abit nice to listen about the talents etc. Can reccomend if you are still figureing out all talents and so on.
lament zealot
Black smithing seems cool if you can keep the ILVL relevant. The special things some of the armor gets seem really good for Prot
fierce field
Go Mining/Herbing. Find friends that do Alchemy/Blacksmith/JC/etc. and send them mats or provide mats for their work orders. winning 🙂
open gazelle
Brace for impact and unnerving focus not as good as previously thought thanks to rextroy
Are there any soulboune gear specific to profession in DF or no? Besides alchemist stone
Soul bound *
past drum
engi goggles
tropic sundial
Engi helm
split tusk
Hello fellow wurriers
loud patrol
im gonna run alch/herb because herb talent tree seems interesting
fringe escarp
Was looking at blacksmithing but it seemed underwhelming
open gazelle
I have mining and always an engineer but was wondering if I should drop mining for alch, probably going to do herb/blacksmithing on my alt
split tusk
I feel like engineering is going to be lots of fun
open gazelle
It always is
wispy tapir
do we have a sick leveling build
split tusk
do we have a sick leveling build
Yeah go prot and AoE pull kek
wispy tapir
🙂
tropic sundial
Maybe the heroic throw talent would actually ve useful to pull more shit at once while running around
loud patrol
titan throw ur wat to 70 
tropic sundial
Tag all the things 
delicate sluice
tomorrow will be only 1 hour of maintenance for NA servers?
warm plinth
Well the launch isn't until like 9 hours after that maintenance so I'm sure it's probably last minute prep shit
delicate sluice
Oh ok, thxx
mellow quartz
There is nothing they need to roll out. It’s already in the client.
delicate sluice
Its like shadowlands, we'll receive a quest yeah?
warm plinth
I'm talking about back-end shit, not game changes
mellow quartz
Like SL was just the time hit the mark and a quest popped up.
delicate sluice
yep, thxx
warm plinth
Its like shadowlands, we'll receive a quest yeah?
we already get the quest now
We just can't finish the whole thing
mellow quartz
They just throw a switch an you can.
warm plinth
the quest that sent you to the zeppelin tower outside of Org or the docks in Stormwind is the intro to Dragonflight. Only difference is there will actually be a zeppelin/boat tomorrow
bold furnace
Was looking at blacksmithing but it seemed underwhelming
Oh no.. I'll be honest I never looked into the crafting stuff.
fallen lichen
Anyone have any idea how long it will take an average Joe like me to hit 70?
Read it is supposed te be quite fast compared to earlier releases?
split tusk
tomorrow will be only 1 hour of maintenance for NA servers?
I sell bridges
fierce field
6-10 hours depending on how you quest
fallen lichen
So <1 hour per level, that is quick yea
bold furnace
https://tenor.com/view/spartans-what-is-your-profession-300-gif-23737051
Yessssssss
split tusk
I just realized this gif would be hilarious if they all yelled UwU
sick sentinel
wait when did they nerf warrior rage gen
can anyone gimme a link i cant find it anywhere
but its recent?
modern brook
Uhhh like early November
slim dove
Good idea to get all the dragonriding glyphs as you level, no rush besides tinkering with profs and doing m0 world tours
autumn atlas
but its recent?
Pretty sure the only recent one was when they stealth nerfed blood surge to 7% instead of 10. That got reverted recently.
sick sentinel
oh cool
copper lion
anyone here leveling as prot?
paper iron
I’ll prob level as prot, not super fast, but it’s honest leveling
loud patrol
anyone here leveling as prot?
as what else can you llevel as? .-.
fierce field
Just means pull bigger and big clapping
fierce field
I run prot, wife runs ele. Not much risk in open world with that
paper iron
I won’t lie though, I do like pulling like everything on my screen and just laughing as I mitigate and clap em to death, unless it’s a bunch of casters, then I cry.
paper iron
Plus I feel like a god when I kill elites/super tough world enemies- even if the battle takings like 30 mins
tender cove
anyone here leveling as prot?
I prefer prot 9/10 times. Can't pinpoint what expansion that truly sucked but for most part? It's not THAT bad, its just slower.
This time, i'll lvl as prot to practice muscle memory and new mmo mouse.
Maybe you gain 1-2 lvls in speed by going arms or fury but if you're used to pulling everything? It could end up with you spending more time dead too 😛
fierce field
Yeah I am just much more comfortable with the prot rotation.
copper lion
Maybe you gain 1-2 lvls in speed by going arms or fury but if you're used to pul...
yea I am fine leveling as prot but I'm still probably playing the other specs as max level
if arms has victory rush then I think that's also pretty good t level as
tender cove
yea I am fine leveling as prot but I'm still probably playing the other specs as...
Same, i've always played all 3 specs off warrior, they're usally on the good to great level in terms of fun, at least to me and 100% in comparison to the other melee specs 😛
Makes me want to have glad spec back, bit redundant but it was decent idea.
copper lion
Same, i've always played all 3 specs off warrior, they're usally on the good to ...
what time is launch tomorrow? still have to work till 5 pm
outer thorn
craggy pilot
damn im too slow
copper lion
damn is perfect
strong forum
Launch is in 23hrs25minutes
copper lion
5 pm CST
strong forum
copper lion
for me
misty moth
Gonna be logged in from like noon on and hope I can dodge a queue since I work from home
fierce field
Same! Will get online soon as I get back from my dentist appt
Novocained up for the launch
tender cove
Gonna be logged in from like noon on and hope I can dodge a queue since I work f...
Ohh, this will be my first expo as horde and while i've been on high pop never really been on full realms. Any idea how bad dreanor or eu overall will be in that regard?
eager schooner
Ohh, this will be my first expo as horde and while i've been on high pop never r...
insane
tarren mill, draenor etc
misty moth
Oh I'm in NA. No idea
tender cove
tarren mill, draenor etc
I get home at around 10pm from the gym, will 2 hours be good enough to just start 23.59?
outer thorn
Ive only ever had queue problems with Classic since their server infrastructure is different, cant remember last time I was in queue for Retail
sick sentinel
Dumb question, I tried to search and didn’t get the exact answer. But Reprisal is dead in DF yeah? There’s no talent to replace it - it’s just Shield Charge now?
copper lion
easiest way to badlands?
eager schooner
I get home at around 10pm from the gym, will 2 hours be good enough to just star...
no clue, was a complete fiesta when shadowlands released is all i remember. might be enough, might not be enough
whole vine
guys u have any link for prot bis ?
tender cove
is there some addon that can keep me logged in? Or is that breaking tos?
outer thorn
@tender cove you can have the game running at home and control it remotely via teamviewer or a similar app on your phone
strong forum
2 hrs should be fine
tender cove
<@320957287818854401> you can have the game running at home and control it remot...
its one mouseclick per 29 minutes right?
outer thorn
I dont know the exact requirements
tender cove
I dont know the exact requirements
pretty sure its 30 min to logout and another 15 minute to exit from login screen but dont qoute me on it
outer thorn
im not suire how TOS compliant it is either to be fair
tender cove
Once every 2 years should be fine, i hope lol
sage fable
I personally don’t see how you could get in trouble for remote playing a game.
Not that I would put much stock into it but Towelliee publicly talks about using a remote app to stay logged in.
tender cove
I personally don’t see how you could get in trouble for remote playing a game.
...
That is no problem. I used todo that daily for years when I was making a career. I was thinking about preventing logout, i think they won't like that, at least not regularly.
sage fable
Now if you’re talking about auto clicking? You’re flirting with botting versus you manually clicking from your phone.
sage fable
That is no problem. I used todo that daily for years when I was making a career....
Yeah. I honestly don’t remember how Shadowlands release was. Can’t remember huge issues with launch but I could be out of touch.
copper lion
just get off of work early bro lol
tell them you really need to go home because you don't feel well
tender cove
just get off of work early bro lol
Its gym time, can't compromise on that lol
copper lion
Its gym time, can't compromise on that lol
wake up at 5 am like I do
every day to the gym
problem solved
tender cove
I dont wanna go full OT but i'll just say this, there's something wrong with you, no offense bro ❤️
5 am? xD
copper lion
Yea, I wake up at 5 am, walk my dog, eat my pre workout shake and Im there by 6:30
fierce field
I wake up at 6am to work out before work. But I start work at 8
tender cove
I could never do that. i'm a zombie until AT LEAST 2 hours after I wake up.
fierce field
Kick the caffeine. It'll make a world of difference
tender cove
Kick the caffeine. It'll make a world of difference
yeh, its a known issue, specially all the coke zero i drink. With the preworkout, think i average 350mg per day.
copper lion
I pop 2 scoops of citrulline mallate, 1 scoop beta alanine and 400 mg of caffeine
that's my pre-workout drink
tender cove
wait what? 400mg in one preworkout? Thats crazy high bro. Mine was over the entire day xD
copper lion
no fancy pre workouts here
copper lion
wait what? 400mg in one preworkout? Thats crazy high bro. Mine was over the enti...
yea I usually workout 60-70 minutes
fierce field
I've been 0 caf for about a year now. First two weeks were rough but now I fall asleep easier and wake up usually 5-10 mins before my alarm
copper lion
I have high caffeine tolerance
slim dove
easily 1000+ on heavy days/peak weeks, no issues sleeping or waking up on time
copper lion
it's no bad really, too much caffeine is maybe 600+ mg
yea I come back and drink my large Americano after that
no problems
tender cove
Im impressed by those numbers, I get caffeine anxiety, really badly, if I go above 200-250mg in one go.
copper lion
then also my intra workout drink has 2 additional scoops of citrilline mallate
for a total of 4
tender cove
You're more coffee than blood at that point lol
fierce field
I have family history with heart disease. Lost my grandpa at 59, Lost my aunt at 45 and dad survived a heart attack at 58
copper lion
my workouts are hard so the caffeine I drink gets washed up in that
I am extremely active person so it doesn't affect me
I do like 15k to 20k steps daily on top of my workouts
tender cove
I have family history with heart disease. Lost my grandpa at 59, Lost my aunt a...
A friendly tip (ask a doctor first) but try go donating blood. Will keep haematocrit levels (blood viscosity levels) lower and less chances for stroke, heart attacks, blod clots etc, and you're also potentially helping to save a life. win win.
fierce field
How do you have time to prot war? 🙂
copper lion
that's because I walk my dog 3 times a day
copper lion
How do you have time to prot war? 🙂
I just came back to the game
day 1 for me
so we will see
fierce field
Our dogs get gassed about what is 3k steps for me.
tender cove
I do like 15k to 20k steps daily on top of my workouts
I train on average 90 min per day, 6 days a week. Now during winter i walk considerably less but I still avg 10k step, usually its double on summers. I'd die on 600mg caffeine xD
fierce field
I am an old man with bad knees. Trying to drop weight. Was at 285lbs in July and now down to 250. 30 minutes of rowing every other day and 40ish mins of walking the dogs
tender cove
I am an old man with bad knees. Trying to drop weight. Was at 285lbs in July ...
Great work bro! Keep it up. Remember its a marathon and not a sprint, lots of life choices come into it aswell 🙂
copper lion
I am an old man with bad knees. Trying to drop weight. Was at 285lbs in July ...
make sure you strengthen your bones with resistance training, even bodyweight ones
fierce field
Oh yeah lots of dietary changes.
copper lion
most people are under muscled it's not really about having too much weight
tender cove
Oh yeah lots of dietary changes.
If you need help or have questions about anything diet or training really. Just DM me 🙂
tender cove
most people are under muscled it's not really about having too much weight
yup, for 90% its just a matter of doing anything to be honest 😛
outer thorn
❤️ Deadlifts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWUcHKAj_tc
fierce field
Yeah mostly I needed to be better at doing push aways more than push ups.
And COVID didn't help. Moved to working from home, not going out as much so would do boredom visits to the kitchen 🙂
tender cove
Yeah mostly I needed to be better at doing push aways more than push ups.
Jirsa gave great advice above tbh. Focus on strengthen bones with resistance training, its a fantastic start, specially if you have any issues with joints, doesn't matter knee, elbow, rotary cuffs etc.
fierce field
Yeah I got a rowing machine in the basement. It's been great so far.
tender cove
If you can, invest in a set of resistance rubber bands, they usually come in packs of 5, in colors depending on resistance , usually from 1 kilo up to 20. You can do a complete body workout at home with that and progressivly focusing on gently overloading.
thin cedar
What’s the highest Ilvl we can craft a shield in DF
tender cove
I'm sorry. I always get to passionate about training but i get its the wrong forum for that. Love y'll ❤️
waxen cradle
@thin cedar S1 unless they changed it in the past week it will be 418, but that is baring in mind the materials needed such as Primal Infusions.
paper iron
Holy shit guys. I though 450 caffeine a day was bad. I low key feel better about my caffeine consumption haha. I’ve been trying to cut down cause my high blood pressure
I’m sure tanking lfg isn’t helping with the blood pressure though 😂
copper lion
So this Calling the Storms daily is just to try to farm gear right
fierce field
yeah... the goal is to change your diet so you can tank pugs without risking your health 🙂
copper lion
Not sure what other things I should prep for
prior to tomorrow
got that early event done
outer thorn
@copper lion you can get a heirloom trinket and a reagent bag from the event too
paper iron
Hardest thing for me is bread and chips, I hate sugar so that helps man Cheetos, I ironically are my weakness I’m taking a break until tomorrow myself