protection

[sick sentinel]

have to get another case that doesn't suck ass and motherboard or reinstall windows

[strong forum]

Ayoo?

[mellow quartz]

Just get a 10$ third party connector?

[naive sinew]

damn my pwar damage is so bad.. only doing 18k in 18 gambit?

[sick sentinel]

welllll im not gunna get it any time soon

i'll wait for another 5 years

[uneven mason]

Nom I'll go sub if you get this made into a emoji

[sick sentinel]

get whatever the hell they got then

[chilly brook]

Sorry meant 6900xt

Very close to 3080

Can find under $700

[mellow quartz]

It at all, their AIB’s sell them.

What’s sketch is that batch nvidia made that is cheap as shit

[strong forum]

I'm on it, I actually have a gal

[mellow quartz]

The other ones are much more solid build

[chilly brook]

Nvidia kinda lost me as soon as evga cut ties

[mellow quartz]

What got bad?

[chilly brook]

EVGA bailed because they got tired of getting treated like shit

[mellow quartz]

Nvidia has been treating board partners the same for 10+ years

Nothing new here

[uneven mason]

They've been pulling this shit since the gt 660 which was actually the 650 low end card

[sick sentinel]

i used to have a computer so shit at one point in 2016 or so i went to play hearthstone cuz that was a game i could play, and even fucking hearthstone told me "ah your gpu is too shit to play this game, u cant play"

[modern brook]

Every AMD experience I've had has been saving 300 dollars

followed by like

12 hours of work fixing all the stupid horseshit that comes from using an amd card

[chilly brook]

Not with labeling 60 series memory bus width as 80 series cards

[modern brook]

and i just buy nvidia now

[chilly brook]

[modern brook]

fuck work

[sick sentinel]

it was a nvidia 9800gt or somethin

512 mb ram thing

[chilly brook]

5700xt has been good to me

[mellow quartz]

If you wanna use ray tracing buy 40 series nvidia if you don’t buy amd. GG

[outer thorn]

@modern brook the IKEA experience of spending 3 days less pay on furniture just to spend 3 days assembling said furniture

[modern brook]

bro

[chilly brook]

Outside of some of the drivers when I first picked it up but it’s been Gucci since they finally hired engineers or something

[uneven mason]

Was literally it, they issued the specs as a 256b pipe and the card had a 192

[modern brook]

I'm like staring at personal chefs

cause i just dont want to cook for myself

[gloomy vortex]

Still got mine

[chilly brook]

[uneven mason]

5700XT bros

[gloomy vortex]

Card still pulling its weight

[chilly brook]

Mine is

[uneven mason]

Cyberpunk at 144fps @ 2k

[chilly brook]

Runs hot but that’s more a problem with my case having terrible airflow

[gloomy vortex]

Mine runs crazy hot

[chilly brook]

Gonna just completely rebuild at this point

[uneven mason]

Mine tops at 95c when I overvolt a bit max my CPU bottleneck

2600x is showing it's age

[minor helm]

Gave my sapphire to my gf when I went up to a 3070

Was a good card

[chilly brook]

I got the red devil

[uneven mason]

Been waiting for DDR5 and now it's here so

[minor helm]

[uneven mason]

Holy shit

We're twins

[mellow quartz]

I have a 2080 and will probably buy a 4090 when there is availability again 🤷‍♂️

[uneven mason]

Remember to modernize your psu if you get a 4090

[mellow quartz]

Got a 1000w psu already

[uneven mason]

Psu drops about 5% throughput per year

Yeah so that 4090 under load will eat that thing

[mellow quartz]

Founders edition recommends 850w

[uneven mason]

Hahaha

[mellow quartz]

And all the independent treating I have seen shows it actually pulling less than the 3090

[outer thorn]

@astral atlas just get a modular one

[mellow quartz]

Under load and with less transient spikes

[uneven mason]

It can, it can also draw over 600w

Thus, the melting

[mellow quartz]

The melting is bad soldering on a batch of those connectors

Nothing else, would just get one from Corsair

[ember tangle]

my 650w psu is 9 years old, so it is now a 410w psu

if it loses 5% per year

[mellow quartz]

For the 4090 founders edition

[silent anchor]

kinda damage r people doing in retail atm?

[mellow quartz]

Synthetic tests will do that for ya

[mellow quartz]

Nome does like 30k

[chilly brook]

The meeting has to do with the connector itself not power draw

At least from the testing I’ve seen

[silent anchor]

how lol

[mellow quartz]

@strong forum how

[mellow quartz]

Hitting buttons and pulling big

[wary heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paqZHzOr58E ...ouch brew is looking rough

[chilly brook]

TLDR, there’s varying QC on the adapter and there are connections that are breaking on some of them causing more resistance meaning excessive heat

[uneven mason]

500w pulling through is approximately 120c which is well within range to start melting cheap solder

[mellow quartz]

Not sure I would call brew rough. Did you see the other video he did the other day doing 96k overall dps in a 15 AA?

[chilly brook]

Doomers gonna doom, brew will be fine

[silent anchor]

interesting 😄

[uneven mason]

Brew is good

[chilly brook]

I forgot what German dude did the testing but ye basically the connector just isn’t a good idea and the QC problems shouldn’t be a thing

[mellow quartz]

Der bauer

[mighty valley]

we did get a lot of buffs in s3, not gonna say all the doomer videos didn't contribute to that at all

[chilly brook]

Ye that guy

[uneven mason]

The only tank really suffering is druids

And that's less tankyness and more shit design

[mellow quartz]

All the 3rd party connectors are fine as their are more solidly made. Simple as that. Nvidia were just being cheap.

[uneven mason]

That is kinda their thing

[mellow quartz]

Or it was their supplier doing a bad job as it’s only a small number so might be a bad batch etc

[chilly brook]

The fact remains is the 12 pin or whatever just wasn’t necessary

[uneven mason]

Going with, Nvidia being cheap on hiring a company with bad QC

[mellow quartz]

It would have looked bad with 4 8 pins so new solutions had to be found.

All those cables!

[chilly brook]

Iirc it would have run off 2 8 pins

[mellow quartz]

And it’s only an issue until ATX 3 PSU’s come

Nah that is 2x 150W

An 8 pin has an official spec of 150w iirc

I guess we side tracked the prot warrior channel a bit though.

[vestal moat]

Did RDM get buffed in prepatch? Did it always absorb 26k? seems way higher than it was. thought the value was like 17k before

[mellow quartz]

Believe so yes

[astral crystal]

protection warrior tech support

[uneven mason]

More like protection warriors showing how rage fuels us irl

[knotty idol]

Is Ashen juggernaut bugged?

[mighty valley]

conduit tooltips are still bugged afaik

but they still work as they should

[blazing condor]

do we not have berserker rage in df?

[mellow quartz]

It’s a talent

Same as now

[pallid quiver]

we just generally don't pick it up because there's, like

not any scary fears or incaps

[mellow quartz]

It will be useful in S2 in the brackenridge dungeon.

[strong forum]

press many button

(also its lower kara)

and i guess gamba

JY doesnt count

[uneven mason]

Reflect

[knotty idol]

I have 17% base crit, ashen jugg on tree and conduit but I only crit 9%? Am I just super unlucky

[mellow quartz]

Gonna see what SR damage you can get from 2nd boss in Shadowmoon with the 40% buff now.

[strong forum]

45 hits isnt a large enough sample size

i have 35% crit baseline +15% crit chance every now and again from heirmir

this is what it looks like on overall

[lofty widget]

seems fine to me

[silent anchor]

Wise words 😅 I will play more as never really played warr till now

[knotty idol]

Do you use jugg in talents and conduit?

[strong forum]

no i play heirmir

AAF + Cov

execute talents are dead

literally a trash ass button

[knotty idol]

Maybe I just got unlucky but had low crit rate on next boss also

I think maybe using them together is bugged but idk for sure

[thin silo]

If you have both only Talent version works, right?

[hard vessel]

How low is our rage regeneration gonna be in dragonflight Compared to like s3 with banner? 50% of it?

[regal epoch]

dang, really?

[strong forum]

yea

not worth

[spark meteor]

talent Brutal Vitality: 30% of damage you deal adds to your active Ignore Pain. This works just fine when I press Ignore Pain for the first time but when I press Ignore Pain for the second time while having Ignore Pain up, my damage doesn't add anything to my Ignore Pain shield. Is this a known bug or feature?

[strong forum]

IP caps at 30% hp

and BV stops working once you reach IP cap, its a known bug

[spark meteor]

oh damn

should I even use BP then?

[cobalt seal]

10-20%

Nome should know better

Its better on aoe

But worst on st i think

[strong forum]

overall banner makes up for 25% of our rage gen in m+ currently

[hard vessel]

10 or 20% sounds fucking horrible

But my keyboard is going to thank it I guess

[strong forum]

in st its practically the same

prot gets about 20% slower in DF with this and obv the lower haste levels

[thin silo]

That much lower, not that much of

[hard vessel]

Do we get still big fat shield slams in DF?

[strong forum]

we get phatter ones

[hard vessel]

OK so that's why there is every tank on every server playing prot Warr now

[outer thorn]

personally, im sick of BDK after shadowlands, was looking into druid but thats just a trainwreck right now so I decided to pick up pwar again

[cobalt seal]

Unlucky

You left when bdk became interesting

[hard vessel]

Ye BDK is fun now

[outer thorn]

im sure ill revisit it at some point, but the pwar kit is really fun to play

[hard vessel]

It was way more fun in s3 shadowlands

[silent anchor]

s3/4 bdk was boring and lost all of the BDK soul imo

[sick sentinel]

can anyone link me the paladin discord? i cant find a working invite link

[silent anchor]

https://discord.gg/hammerofwrath

[knotty idol]

Where do you find this?

[sly perch]

Can someone experienced please msg me private, I got a few questions I’d like to get help with.

[strong forum]

logs

[cobalt seal]

https://tenor.com/view/secret-boss-baby-on-the-phone-gif-7991222

[uneven mason]

We don't do that sort of thing here, not for free anyway... maybe @modern brook

[outer thorn]

@sly perch if its about what I think it is: 1. Manage your personal hygiene. 2. Work on your social skills 3. Get in shape

[cobalt seal]

Just ask away

[uneven mason]

🤘

[sly perch]

You can’t teach a old dog to sit

[hard vessel]

People here are used to question like, I'm dying, why? So don't worry

[sly perch]

I’m a 1st timer tanker, I tried Druid and I could keep aggro really good. But with warrior I seem to loose it every single time no matter what I do.

[uneven mason]

But if you ask a question in this channel @strong forum is magically compelled to answer

[sly perch]

I can screen my talents and maybe get some input… I keep rotation shield slam, rend, thunder clap, execute and impending victory when need go

[cobalt seal]

Raid m+?

[uneven mason]

Don't press rend

[cobalt seal]

Where are you losing aggro

[uneven mason]

Blood and thunder auto applies it with thunderclap

[sly perch]

Normal dungeons 😂🤦

[uneven mason]

Revenge

[sly perch]

Everywhere. On small groups of mobs, boss

[uneven mason]

You're missing revenge

[sly perch]

Okay

[uneven mason]

Our #1 slapper

[sly perch]

Let me check them

[uneven mason]

It's the filler

[cobalt seal]

Whats your ilvl

[sly perch]

229

[uneven mason]

You need to find revenge

[sly perch]

I don’t wanna go into a dungeon until I solved this. Yea I’m looking

[uneven mason]

Thunderclap

[cobalt seal]

Dont press rend press more revenge

[sly perch]

Kk

[cobalt seal]

That should help

[sly perch]

Yeah alright I got it and I’m usually using it whenever I can, I misses it when I named my rotation

[uneven mason]

Hmm

Let's see thosebtalents

[cobalt seal]

Either you are playing with people of higher ilvl

Or something is hmmm

[outer thorn]

im also thinking maybe spending too much rage on ignore pain instead of shield block / revenge

[uneven mason]

Even megapumpers at 300 shouldn't be pulling off of a war

[median tulip]

@sly perch remove Rend, Whirlwind and Slam from your bars entirely

[uneven mason]

But yeah not enough revenge span

[sly perch]

Alright

U mean shield slam?

[median tulip]

No. Shield Slam is good. Slam is bad.

[sly perch]

Yeah got it

[median tulip]

Slam:

[sly perch]

Don’t even use it

[uneven mason]

So, you don't have ravager or shield charge, let's us direct you to the 📌and check the builds in there

[sly perch]

Alright so I’m missing out on some skills

[uneven mason]

SC and ravager are massive ae burst

Lots of rage as well

More rage more revenge

[modern brook]

Why am I pinged:(

[median tulip]

What you have there is kinda half of one build and half of another and neither works

[modern brook]

I don't do anything

[uneven mason]

Someone needed someone "experienced" for a private session

[modern brook]

I just annoy nom mostly and flirt with erga when he's here

[sly perch]

Alright! I really appreciate the help, ima sort out my talents and get sc and ravager

[uneven mason]

At least one of them

Also check the pins

[strong forum]

dont get SC in pre-patch

[uneven mason]

But it's fun

[strong forum]

it is fun

but less optimal

[uneven mason]

I told you nom was magically compelled to correct, day or night

[strong forum]

this is pretty much the best build to run

well except for zerker rage in top left

that point you can putwhever you want

[cobalt seal]

Look at this guy. Thinking he knows better

Smh

[median tulip]

I would try to get UF/BV/TL going, myself

[strong forum]

if you wanna go for max dmg but a bit more squishy you move the point from indomitable to ravager

[sly perch]

Alright I’ll try this out now, sorted out my talents according to your guys expertise:)

[pallid quiver]

this is why one of my talent builds is just named "i wanna press shield charge"

[ornate thunder]

It feels so good to hit

[sly perch]

Muuuuuuuch better !!!

[mellow quartz]

The Neltharus dungeon in S2 has some nutty gear, the mutated trinket does over 5% or your damage on 4 dummies and the 1h sword forgestorm is 5% as well from the proc alone

[lone eagle]

I think I have the gist of it

But mathematically how does a critical block work

If you are blocking 50% normally and then crit block, is it 50% of the remainder?

So 75%

[errant leaf]

Neltharus wont be in s1 m+ right ?

[mellow quartz]

s2 dungeon

[errant leaf]

Oh nvm

Yy

[lean talon]

i keep getting this error

on raidbots

what s this

[mellow quartz]

sims not implemented for prot

[lean talon]

unlucky

so i cant even use droptimizer for prot ?

[strong forum]

not with accurate sims, no

you can manually add the string

and remove the 2 dragon roar lines

then you can sim, but ill just take the SL sim

[lean talon]

SL sim ?

[strong forum]

the sim used in shadowlands

[lean talon]

how

[strong forum]

^?

wdym how

[lean talon]

wait im confused

[strong forum]

because the APL isnt written for dragonflight yet

lmao

sims are done and written by humans

[lean talon]

i just went to raidbots and tried to im

sim

how do i change it to SL sim

sorry im kinda new to this

[strong forum]

you have to manually edit the APL^

[lone eagle]

@strong forum re: my question above

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/BLnD47G.png

gotta slam in the new APL in there

[strong forum]

a critblock isnt a block after a block

its just a 2x as strong block

[lone eagle]

So then if you have 50% block DR

It just totally removes the hit

Or is there a cap

[lofty widget]

cap is 85%

[thorny stone]

what legendary do you equip with that build?

[strong forum]

i played signet

[lone eagle]

Ahh same as armor then

[strong forum]

but you dont need any

[orchid mural]

I've been playing with SC and Ravager to get practiced up for DF - just an idea to get used to them, as pre-patch doesn't really matter.

Anyone else like me and have trouble not taking shockwave - so handy for controlling packs. I don't put more points into it, just the single one.

[mellow quartz]

it is what it is

you will have it in 3.5 weeks

[steep condor]

on moroes normally i get a ranged class to interrupt the trapped mob i release, so it comes to me. Alternatively, if we have no ranged interrupt i line of sight to the right of the platform. Is that right? Can I just run up there and interrupt it myself? I seem to remember when i run up there all the trapped mobs get released.

[sand kettle]

what's the reasoning on overwhelming rage? does it help throughput somehow?

[sick sentinel]

some random prot warrior in my group

[strong forum]

its just huge QoL

[sand kettle]

cool, thank you

[lone eagle]

Yeah I don't know if 2 points are necessary

But 1 atleast feels really nice

[fickle ingot]

@fast hawk

THE kungen

Mein gott, I can’t believe it ja

[sick sentinel]

the talent for hunter is the same way, +10 +20 maximum focus (rage) 2 talents for 20 total resource, adding to pool of 100

[median tulip]

Overwhelming Rage is way way more important for Arms, compared to us.

[mighty valley]

With the last stand conduit the way it is now, you’re almost always gonna overcap a little in big aoe with everything popped, OR is prob effectively generating rage

Won’t be as big a deal after DF launches

[strong forum]

its just really nice QoL during your CDs

and in bigass pulls

[lucid robin]

How are VDH, warrior, and bdk feeling now? How to they compare? Any quick pro/con and ease of play breakdown?

[strong forum]

pwar easiest, vdh middle, bdk hard

vdh more dmg and can be insanely tanky, has aoe silence + 5% magic dmg
pwar very good dmg, very tanky, rally + aoe interrupt + battleshout
bdk immortal but less aoe dmg, very good ST damage, has grip

every tank but vdh and bear are high apm now

if played well

all tanks are around 69cpm

besides vdh and bear

[lucid robin]

that's too much for my old man hands.

VDH it is XD

[strong forum]

currently pwar is 90-100cpm in pre-patch

[safe shale]

I was about to say, feels like playing Fury lol

[strong forum]

fury is way slower

[lucid robin]

And I realize that 70cpm just means you have a few bursts, and some times when you're pushign simultaneous buttons

LOL, my son plays fury and he probably hits the keys far more than 80-90cpm

his keyboard sounds like a god damn woodchipper

[strong forum]

well yeah

if you dont want to miss globals

you press the buttons like 7-8 times per second

[lucid robin]

but the difference is that he's good at this game and Im not 😄

[strong forum]

actual keypresses of me are probably close to like 300 per minute

[lucid robin]

5 clicks every single second?

[strong forum]

sounds about right

you want to minimum hit your keys 3times a second

with a spellqueuewindow of 400 ms

i set mine to 150ms

so i need to hit it 7 times per second

to not miss a gcd

[wary heath]

i feel like i'm being trolled by reading this

[strong forum]

?

[safe shale]

Lol

[wary heath]

i hit everything once and seem to not miss any gcd

[strong forum]

you do

miss

[safe shale]

well "seem" to

[strong forum]

alot

if you do that

[wary heath]

is your latency higher than normal

[strong forum]

if you only press your button once its ready

you miss alot of fucking milliseconds

per gcd

that shit adds up

if you arent fast enough to hit a spell when its ready asap

you miss milliseconds each time you do that

lets say you miss GCD by 100milliseconds each time

(which is already very fast reaction timing)

over 10 minutes

thats 40000ms

ya^

this

i have 20 ping

ping +100 is recommended

[cinder dirge]

what's CPM and how can you see it mate ?

[strong forum]

in logs

[safe shale]

logs

[strong forum]

casts per minute

[safe shale]

Cents per mile

[real fossil]

Until you have over 90% GCD usage I don’t think anyone should mess with spell queue stuff

[strong forum]

the average player shouldnt no

[real fossil]

Until then, it’s not the cause of you being bad…it’s everything else

It’s not just the average player it’s so much higher of a bar

[strong forum]

"slow instance"

m8, your ping doesnt increase because you got an unlucky instance

idk what kinda 2007 tech youre talking about, latency only gets fucked if theres a gigantic load of the server, or if your own internet is giving out

[lone eagle]

When you play with OCE players in NA : 🤮

[sturdy sable]

Yeah isnt nom EU?

[lone eagle]

Hello 400 ping

[strong forum]

im EU we dont have those "unlucky" instances

[sturdy sable]

He doesnt know

Yeah

[lone eagle]

East to West here is also a 100 ping diff

At most

[sand pebble]

Im.oce, 19ms usually, na lead its straight to 150

[strong forum]

nah i always have my comfy 20

14-20

[cinder dirge]

Did you go individually on each player to check that or is there a link in wlog that literally rank cpm ?

[sturdy sable]

OCE players will actually list OCE in groups to let ppl know they might lag and to join at your own risk if you yourself arnt OCE

[lone eagle]

I get 30 here east coast and then around 90-100 in west coast groups

Yay

[strong forum]

on beta you have to indivually check logs or you can see it with sims

theres no ranking list

[lone eagle]

Idk I just mash my buttons real good

[lucid robin]

I suppose 300cpm isn't actually as fast as I thought.

[wary heath]

how you pressing it 7 times per gcd though

[lone eagle]

I definitely spell queue but dontb think I've changed the window

[strong forum]

7 isnt even that much

speedrunners can hit 1 button up to 23 times a second

if not faster

[sturdy sable]

Have it register on button press and release

[wary heath]

u saying like revenge / tc? or you queing up block / IP

or all

[celest glade]

Can Shield Charge and Charge be macro'd together so it uses Shield Charge first?

[strong forum]

you dont need to queue up off-gcds

you cant even queue them up

[sand pebble]

I play 200sqw

[lone eagle]

This is how https://streamable.com/p1jx99

[lucid robin]

It SOUNDS really fast but I just did a quick test with all my key binds and I hit 465 cpm my first go.

[lone eagle]

Can hear my keyboard

[wary heath]

is it necessary though ? Most of the clicks aren't actually qeueing up anything, it's just one of them

[strong forum]

if you only send a button when its ready

youre intentionally lowering your dps

for no reason other than being lazy

you have to pre-spam the next button you wanna send

[wary heath]

is it logs that show how many gcds you missed? how would it even track it though, there's down time in fights where you sometimes aren't really needing to press anything

[strong forum]

theres no easy way to check for it

but your human reaction speed

will never be quick enough

[lucid robin]

I play at default 150ms

[strong forum]

to not need the queue window

especially with latency speed added

[wary heath]

like im watching malakars video right now, he starts spamming buttons before he's in even remotely near the boss, i get he's trying to maximize, but it's also egregiously overkill

[strong forum]

hes sending the button before its usable to setup the queue

[wary heath]

i guess ive called myself out as a casual

is what we learned

[strong forum]

so that the game will send the button instantly

as soon as its literally ready

to not miss precious milliseconds each time

this is primarily to prevent latency lag

so people who have worse ping, arent getting fucked over

[wary heath]

i deifnitely do this to some extent, dont get me wrong, i just didnt realize people spam this to an ungodly level of cpm

[strong forum]

all they have to do is increase the SQW

to compensate for their lag

[wary heath]

maybe it's the mechanical keyboard that makes it sound absurd, a lot of my keypresses are on a mouse, so my fingers would explode

[strong forum]

well

[lone eagle]

I'm also not perfect at it

[strong forum]

if you press quickly

you re-do your queue

[lone eagle]

But I did have a scuffed kill pull later than that clip

[strong forum]

the benefit of a small SQW is, you can react faster to procs

aka, shield slam

[lone eagle]

And still rank 4'd for our first kill

Totally botched my opener

[strong forum]

[marsh forge]

Don't worry the feeling is mutual, it's only recent that the m+ servers have bee shit for latency. We used to be fine and now the input latency is just terrible

[strong forum]

thatd be news to me

that you cant overwrite the queue

if you do it before the GCD comes up

[lone eagle]

If you press Shield Slam 8 times in .1s

The game says fuck it and sends it

[strong forum]

🤷‍♂️

anywho

[lone eagle]

That's my experience in overriding a queued tclap

[hazy bronze]

I play exclusively with voice commands

[strong forum]

i changed mine because sending revenge in BFA was dogshit if you happen to just get an SS proc right before

[lone eagle]

I do motion controls

[strong forum]

and i noticed that often times revenge would go through instead of SS

[lone eagle]

I have to shield slam the nearest person irl whenever I want to send it

[misty moth]

Flash backs to awful awful skyward sword controls

[strong forum]

SQW on beta is omega awful

you cant snipe anything

cuz 150ping

often times beta is just outright unplayable

[lone eagle]

Low-key use foot petals

I've thought about getting some

Put shield slam on the Brake

We all have that slam on the brake reflex right

[sick sentinel]

only 3 death to fire, seems like fake news, (its a twitter thingy)

[lone eagle]

That helm on a Tauren looks pretty good

[sick sentinel]

i can't remember the 18 top off hand sadly

[sand pebble]

Why

I dont like being locked into a cast for 200ms looking at a ss proc

And i changed it to 200ms

Yeah cause i olay oce and get grouped with na so i need it higher

[lucid robin]

So does prot still feel like the "safest" option then? Like, you're not likely to die from a mistake you made 10 seconds ago.

[sick sentinel]

on my old ui i couldnt accept soulstones

so im happy with this update, i don't get that error any more

[stuck rock]

Your base mitigation is passive so I guess so

[sick sentinel]

would like to attempt to get the allied race heritage easily while i can, all the alliance ones are done, need 4 on horde, past that i can just transfer toons and race change, then its just small rep grind and quests, can do those base races after 50% xp gone

[mellow quartz]

these dungeons are a LOT more spicy now btw

[sand pebble]

Good

[strong forum]

good

[sand pebble]

I want to pick a healer on their ability to heal, not based on damage they deal

[mellow quartz]

soaking orbs on first boss in AA

before didnt even feel it, now if you are not dispelled it 1 shots

[strong forum]

you actually lose hp now?

[mellow quartz]

havent finished a 15 yet

not even gotten close

[strong forum]

lmoa

good

[mellow quartz]

(randoms)

[sand pebble]

Ilvl of testing?

[strong forum]

dungeons were massively too easy

[mellow quartz]

392

[strong forum]

sounds alot more fun now

[sand pebble]

Good

[mellow quartz]

first part of HOV is super easy now doing triple pull

but double after heimdal you cant do without kick order

well maybe you can doing right side

1 less caster

now that they dont bleed anymore

[sand pebble]

No bleed?

I got to play beta again

[sick sentinel]

im too dumb for warlock i think

i don't really get it

[lusty wedge]

How hard can it be?

🥲

[median tulip]

I only know how to play Demolock

[sick sentinel]

i didnt have chaos blast on my bars for 2 lvls ish got placed on a bad keybind for it

[last pebble]

whats the best horde race to play?

tauren or orc?

[strong forum]

define best

most useful in pve?

[sick sentinel]

the race you want to play really

[last pebble]

best racial/transmogs xD im playing blood elf and my character model seems so small i lose track of myself

[wraith hemlock]

Female orc

[strong forum]

best racial - vulp in m+, tauren in raid

[last pebble]

eww vulp

[strong forum]

best tmog - belf, fem orc, troll

[sick sentinel]

chose the race that looks good to you and or fits the racial ability you want, i like tauren, imagine i'd like high mountain tauren as well

[last pebble]

yeah i guess i dont wanna spend the $25 on a race change until i know for certain but im heavily leaning towards orc, i created a new warr and leveled it to see how it felt

[odd tree]

Highmountain tauren is clearly the best

[sick sentinel]

human, dwarflight foge, orcl all good options , kultiran,

[strong forum]

cant sympathise with male orc and tauren

[odd tree]

An extra charge that stuns, hell yea!

[sick sentinel]

we already have a charge thing, i might like that on a paladin, if they can be that

we have many charge things and zoom zoom abilities

[wraith hemlock]

Male orc either looks very dope and scary of clunky as fuck

[uneven mason]

@strong forum
Worthit~

[sick sentinel]

malle orc also gets hit for less stun duration base line

which, stun can suck my ass as tank

[uneven mason]

Femorc best tank

[sick sentinel]

nothing worse as tank, just stuck there cant block or attack or nothin,

[strong forum]

Hell yeah

[sand pebble]

Dwarf stoneform bis and the extra crit damage is nice, plate transmogs can look a little weird though

[covert nova]

dwarf running animations

lol

[sick sentinel]

transmog looks just fine on dwarf

[uneven mason]

Bru, you can't beat this, all the positives of male orcs with none of the clipping shit and walking like you got saddle sores

[wraith hemlock]

Dwarf > any other races > elves

[odd tree]

Actually used the highmountain charge for reprisal, was pretty clutch

[sick sentinel]

i dunno what ur talking about

[last pebble]

any tips on how to deal with piercing missles on second boss of upper kara? Im using IP, Shield block, Fleshcraft, Spell reflect

[odd tree]

Except you do lose control, so flying off of ledges was a thing

[sick sentinel]

transmong is way worse on horde

knees and toes stick out elbows too

[strong forum]

A man of culture

[sick sentinel]

hooves, can't make boots for hooves apparnely, nobody has the technlogy

[odd tree]

Oh, tmog is awful, haven't warn a helm in years

[strong forum]

Spell Block

Spell reflect the last 0.5sec of the cast to not get the debuff

If you wanna be ultra safe you can play immovable object aswell

[sick sentinel]

im going out on a limb and assuming if guy casts burning on you and you spell block it, you take less dmg per tick

[wraith hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/bowing-thank-you-tom-and-jerry-take-a-bow-chasing-gif-20784169

[uneven mason]

The alliance main war

[sick sentinel]

cuz i don't actually play pwar anymor

haven't been on him for 2-3 weeks

[sand pebble]

Dwarf tmog looks good - not at pc to show actual toon

[wraith hemlock]

Yes but... Sword...

[sick sentinel]

he thinks hes a paladin with all that gold shit on his armor

[devout pewter]

guys, i have serious trouble understanding exactly what spell block does.
i use it and for 12sec i have a chance to block the magic spells?

[mighty valley]

it just takes your normal physical block effect and makes it affect spells too

[sick sentinel]

i think you jave to point at enemy like normal block

[coarse flower]

on beta are some macros broken on prot war? like mouseover/target heroic throw or taunt : e.g. /cast [@mouseover][] Heroic Throw

[wraith hemlock]

I mean t he armor set from the MT challenge looks dope... Just seeing a sword on a dwarf is weird

[sick sentinel]

ohhhhh i found a fun game crash anyone can replicate

open hunter pets, drag individual pet to r keybind, if the pet is out and you hit the button the game crashes and ejects you out alt f4

[sand pebble]

I didnt choose mage tower recolour, i had tos green with green shield and maiden mace before

[sick sentinel]

far as i know happened with no to little addons, was not a macro

[mellow quartz]

@strong forum ok its definitely still fine, timed 15 and 16s now but you can feel the increased damage done for sure

[wraith hemlock]

when it comes to Dwarf I prefer these two mogs

sadly I still need to find a shield that won't clip

[uneven mason]

yeah those are hard to find

[sick sentinel]

i wonder if in a year from now we all go..... mannnn dude, dragon isles sucks dragon deez nuts more like it, hey remsmber shadow lands and the jailer and tprghast, those were the days

[outer thorn]

"Man I wish I was in DoS farming scale rn"

[sick sentinel]

like some time loop paradox

[sand pebble]

Hahaha dos trap

[mellow quartz]

when you join a random LFG and you realize you play with drjay and gangam

on beta

[outer thorn]

@mellow quartz pretend you dont know and give drjay some helpful mage tips 🙂

[mortal brook]

fairy princess

[sand pebble]

Haha

[mellow quartz]

he is playing DH

would be strange to randomly give mage tips

🙂

[uneven mason]

Would it

[kindred niche]

hello all. Is there a link to a protection build for L70?

for M+

[uneven mason]

Also if you rub your head and pat your belly and say Nomeratur three times backwards he'll magically appear and hold your hand through playing a warrior for season 1

[kindred niche]

I saw the L60 builds, is this the right channel?

[uneven mason]

womp

Uh I guess the L70 builds got lost when the DF channels got deleted

[pallid quiver]

You mostly just move to grab Roar/Shockwave in class tree and Shield Charge + Bulwark/Ravager in Spec tree to extend from the 60 builds

[kindred niche]

got it, thanks!

[pallid quiver]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUgVRARpFRRBBNVUVEVFUFVYVUQCRE

That, pretty much

Few points are abled to be nudged in case you need like Berserker Rage or something

[ebon wren]

all those cooldowns.

[mellow quartz]

this shit hurts lol

the tank nuke on the big guy before the bird boss in AA

[cobalt seal]

Ruby?

[mellow quartz]

academy

[cobalt seal]

oh the elemental

[mellow quartz]

the big solo guy with the whirlwinds

1 hit takes your whole IP and drops you to 40% hp

on a 16 fort

[cobalt seal]

in a 15?

[mellow quartz]

I kinda like the damage change

things hurt now

but also a little hard to judge as there is some super annoying lag on beta despite my ping not being crazy high

[cobalt seal]

healers get exposed now

a shit healer will show up so fast

[mellow quartz]

a high cpm class with lag is not that fun

[cobalt seal]

true

and doesn't help on "tank" busters

[oblique garnet]

Nah not at 4 am

[mellow quartz]

not that big of a deal on those but in aoe half the time it feels like revenge or TC doesnt go off

its a bit sad

[kindred niche]

Compared HoV +15 w Thundering+Fort. VDH and Warrior. Mained VDH before, 1st time war. C'est incroyable. VDH are good but Warriors are vastly superior. Struggled to survive with my VDH, PWar a +15 seemed a +10.

I'm convinced. Its warrior time.

[vapid mountain]

@oblique garnet 🚿 🛏️ 👨🏿‍🏭

[kindred niche]

first hall to boss, then going left till the 1-shotting hunter (1-shotting on my vdh, ofc)

[oblique garnet]

🍺 🪥

[mellow quartz]

you mean the guy who you have to step out of his frontal empowered arrow cast so you dont get hit?

"Penetrating shot"

[weary python]

How does Prot feel to level with in the open world on beta?

[cobalt seal]

good?

[uneven mason]

It's not really a question, prot slaps in OW leveling

[slow token]

Anyone have a Weakaura for Shield Block and Ignore pain

[uneven mason]

IP tracker in pins should still work

[slow token]

Thanks

[sonic crag]

As someone who groups with friends to level and quests, I stay Prot and round up mobs so others can pew pew

[urban portal]

do we know if its worth keeping up tier buff in execute yet

[wraith hemlock]

Tier buff as in the talent that replaced it?

[patent bone]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/418899842388197386/1038306375748562974/unknown.png got this tnt. I have 1 dinar to spend too, what should I pair this trinket with for M+ content

Thinking ows

[sand pebble]

So leahs does nothing solo so look for beyter leveling trinkets

[blazing condor]

ows / rdm are good choices

[remote dawn]

what trinkets you go when not raiding?

[sand pebble]

Never cause sb uptime is so high

Only if you dont use the sb extending talents

Eg in a raid with taunt swaps often enough you might use those talents somewhere else so bolster gains value as a defensive

[mighty valley]

You just grab Tough As Nails to get through that row, it's a decent 5% of total dps

[remote dawn]

Trinket question: only have this dd trinkets: grenade 298,soleha 298,decanter 291,eye 304, sack 298, whats the best for me? 😄

[mighty valley]

i'd normally say "sim it" but sims aren't super up to date yet

can you dinar any of the op sanctum trinkets?

[remote dawn]

no raiding, decanter was luck from friends guild 1 perrso. left and i play 2 bosses and loot it

[sand pebble]

Grenade is pretty big as both a dps and a defensive, decanter is decent with the str proc but rng is rng - id run soleahs n grenade in group content and swap soleas for decanter for solo

[remote dawn]

yea sounds good for this last weeks 😊

[sick sentinel]

Heyo did anything happen to the beta tab ? wanted to try some prot m+ and just copy a build

[pallid quiver]

Dragonflight channels got taken out back

70 M+ trees are likely gonna be the same-ish as live, so something like this-ish
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUgVRARpFRRBBNVUVEVFUFVYVUQCRE

play with it as you will

[sick sentinel]

Thanks homie

[onyx pike]

what lv 60 tree are you guys playing in m+?

feels somewhat wrong

[limpid anchor]

[dry heart]

Is there a bug with conduits and mythic + dungeons where they don’t work

[sand pebble]

there was its fixed now

if you talent a conduit power it gets overridden

[dry heart]

My HP is higher outside of the dg

Is that normal or am I not noticing something that impacts stats during mythic

No conduits overlapping either

[strong forum]

They gave us +10% stam outside of SL to make up for the lack renown hp increase

[dry heart]

Ah nice didn’t realize that was active was definitely wondering what was goin on

[misty charm]

do i play necro in prepatch?

[red siren]

Hi ! When the talent battle scared veteran proc i don’t see a debuff or something like that to track the 3min CD ?
And the second question the talent Tough as nails is a good DPS increase or no ?

[ruby nexus]

How are we looking in DF compared to SL and BFA? Good? Fun? (M+ mostly)

[sage sail]

Both good and fun @ruby nexus

[cobalt seal]

Considering they were good in sl and bfa and fun is a person thing

I would say the same?

[strong forum]

Tough as nails is very good for dps yes, alot better than bloodborne, and yes BSV doesn't show its CD anywhere

Ill ask a friend to make a WA that tracks its CD

[red siren]

Ok thank you for your answer 😁

[open gazelle]

I did a 29 streets in time no issues, very defensive build, never fell below 70ish % health, wondering if going for more of a dps build would help the keys go smoother or if that would be the death of me lol

[cobalt seal]

Try and see?

[strong forum]

What even is a very defensive build

[cobalt seal]

I dont think you wanna know that answer

[jade pulsar]

Do you guys go shockwave in gambit?

[strong forum]

Why gambit?

[jade pulsar]

i dunno, heard ppl talk about it

but i guess its more if cc is shit in the group

[strong forum]

Idk if I'd go shockwave in any key, losing 5% dmg and 5% leech is a big deal

[cobalt seal]

Remember to do it in lower

[open gazelle]

Basically said fuck 30 rate revenge, iron shield spike whatever, fuck the wall went with double shield wall to help party out, grabbed intervene for reprisal, grabbed shockwave, grabbed bolster @strong forum

[strong forum]

Bolster is overkill

[open gazelle]

Might drop shockwave probably don’t need it, nice that it does good dam and gives rage though @strong forum

Bolster is nice to have to not think and do other things

[strong forum]

And 30 rage revenge is kinda stupid not to pick

Yes, the spell gets more expensive, but you're so overloaded with rage through banner

That its worthwhile

Even in ST

[open gazelle]

I went with more defensive talents is all I’m saying, felt beefy in that +29 felt good

[strong forum]

Ya, stuff don't hurt

[zealous willow]

Do u guys think that 40% life dmg increase changed something for prot warr?

[strong forum]

No

Its a stealth nerf to pally and brew

That's it

[ruby nexus]

I had more fun in bfa less so in sl, but maybe that's jus sl thing in general

[open gazelle]

Might drop shockwave going to miss it til DF

[strong forum]

I know it sucks not having it, and obv it's not detrimental to pick it if its actually gonna help your group

But I find it hard to justify to lose so much dmg and a good chunk of self healing

[open gazelle]

True

Think ill push for a +30 this week

Seems like the right week to do it

[dusk loom]

What's your talent tree?

[sick sentinel]

ehy guys, im new to pwar. just looking for ignore pain and checking his meccanics but nothing aroud explain it. If i understood well, ignore pain can have a max value that is around 30% of my max HP, right?

[strong forum]

Yes

The game doesn't say that anywhere in game which is crazy

[sick sentinel]

on wowhead there are comment only from bfa XD and it was totally different

[mellow quartz]

Looking at a 15 AA 2 weeks ago vs a 16 AA now my EHRPS doubled 🤔

[strong forum]

It was especially different in legion

[mellow quartz]

3k to 6k

[strong forum]

That's maybe just the healer having more hots up, sniping you own hwals

[mellow quartz]

Dtps 25k EHRPS 6k. Still a good ration.

[cobalt seal]

Just check what exactly were the heals

[strong forum]

fuck i didnt log my 15AA

[mellow quartz]

Dtps was 15k 2 weeks ago

Damn

IP being bugged is VERY noticeable btw

Stuff like soaking orbs on first boss in AA can do 200k damage now at high stacks. Boss frontal winds channel is also 200-250k

[cobalt seal]

Orbs are working now

[mellow quartz]

Dying to a double pull before first boss

Surge hurts lol

[strong forum]

it always did

it did 45k in a +10

[mellow quartz]

90k on that 18 fort

[strong forum]

okay 35k

[mellow quartz]

Before or after the increase?

[strong forum]

before

[mellow quartz]

136k

[strong forum]

sounds about right

8 keylevel diff + 40% flat buff

[mellow quartz]

Should be 105 no?

Might just have buffed the ability by itself like they did a lot of things.

[strong forum]

hm

we didnt have fort

thats why

[mellow quartz]

😂

Wonder how hard some of the other tanks get hit now.

[strong forum]

monk just dies to 3 surges

they only have 300k hp

[mellow quartz]

Spellbound battleaxe melee’s for 160k unmitigated

Thinking melee hits combined with the rest

When we mitigate 95% of it it’s not a big deal but wonder abt others.

[gusty perch]

Seems like all the tanks are getting absolutely jacked now

[strong forum]

ya the bleed is blockable

so tanks that cant block

will have fun

actualy no

its just IP

[mellow quartz]

Meant just the white swings

[strong forum]

yeah its 43k on mine

sounds good tbh

[mellow quartz]

183k lol

[strong forum]

jailer hit for 250k

on hc

[mellow quartz]

You don’t pull him with 7 other mobs lol

[strong forum]

no but youre also 4x stronger

and have over twice the HP

[mellow quartz]

I am not saying these hits by themselves do anything as you can see only took 4.5k damage

[strong forum]

this is post first nerf jailer

pwar bad on jailer btw

[mellow quartz]

But others with no block and less mitigation taking 5-6 hits like this plus a surge etc will feel it

[strong forum]

really bad progress tank

[astral crystal]

jesus

that's nuts

[mellow quartz]

Look at his swing times though

Lazy end boss

[astral crystal]

yeah

also casts a ton

[mellow quartz]

Taking breaks between hitting the tank

Last boss kinda does nothing now in AA with the increase to 4 stacks

[strong forum]

even after the last rework

it already did nothing

[mellow quartz]

Unless group were monkies and got hit by everything and dropped a million puddles

On a 16 the frontal managed to 1 shot 3 people in my group so had to solo it for 1.5 minutes. Still 2 chested though.

Were we 392 ilvl last weekend or was that 396?

[strong forum]

392 last weekend

[devout pewter]

guys, being that I've been playing warrior tank recently, and I just do some 22-23 as a key, what trinket combo would you use? I only have these, and I have seen that many use old soul warrior + so'leah, full haste

[mellow quartz]

rdm and ows are good

@strong forum

casual 365k hits

nature damage

[strong forum]

ya this mob

idk

its so garbage

it should be 4 small ones with smaller circles imo

[mellow quartz]

as a warrior you dont need to run out so thats good

just get knocked and charge back in mid air

[strong forum]

every tank just tanks it in the corner

[mellow quartz]

hits for 100k on a 16 the knock

[strong forum]

and gets knocked into the corner

[mellow quartz]

nah I get knocked off platform

so I have room to charge 🙂

free rage

also 5 melee players on that mob is troll as hell

all whirlwinds spawn in melee

[mellow quartz]

seems legit to change the profession system again after they just changed it

[open gazelle]

Very, and we can “buld “ an airship

[sick sentinel]

ughhhhhh there is no way im gunna complete the 4 remaining lvl up races for heritage (before 50% goes away)

at least the other main races i can just change faction/race

[sick sentinel]

i had heard it lasts until the evoker patch on 15th ish

also source?

ohhh so im gettin 68% tomorrow then, that's good i suppose

[cobalt seal]

Hard copium

We already in azeroth

[sick sentinel]

this is how i knew it was total fucking bullshit

remember seige mode and flying combat or whatever they said for VOA in wrath on the box?

[zinc wraith]

Guys is there every a point that toooo much haste is bad? With into up, im sitting around 45%

[sick sentinel]

or it turned into only at VOA

[zinc wraith]

I am only 263 ilvl so catchig up VERY quickly but

Whats the targeted (beyond is bad) % prot war is aiming at?

[cobalt seal]

Doesnt matter

[sick sentinel]

40%

[cobalt seal]

Literally doesnt matter to you

Get ilvl

[zinc wraith]

So pack as much as i can?

[cobalt seal]

Your stats dont matter

[zinc wraith]

damn ok

[sturdy sable]

As a tank

More stats>less stats @zinc wraith

[sick sentinel]

most sane protection warriors stop actively seeking haste after 40%

[sturdy sable]

Or sim for dps

But our sim isnt working yet

[sick sentinel]

you start to lose a small fraction of haste after 40% and probablty even after 30%

[zinc wraith]

Interesting - my BDK is what my Mythic prog was done on so my cap knowledge for warrior esp (as it was not as good for ages) is pretty lacking. But generally ilvl and whatever i can find

[sick sentinel]

right now is the time to fool around, find out

and to try out new inventive builds

[cobalt seal]

Its the same thing for all tanks

Ilvl king

[sick sentinel]

thats gaming 101 tbh

equip the armor with the most armor and stats, like no shit lol

oh i don't take as much dmg now and have way more hp, how could that possibly be helpful

[zinc wraith]

Yeah obviously - ima prob just stack crit at this point and be as glass cannon as i can get away with

[sick sentinel]

im fully expecting someone to make "who took interupt/dispell talents caller-outer" addon like the food/rune/flask on

[sturdy sable]

I think a wa already exists

[sick sentinel]

more that i don't want to lvl 3.5 toons, started on warlock but gave up at lvl 22, should have gone to at least lvl 25 or 30 or 35

[inland raft]

If not following the wowhead talent build get kicked from pugs 🤡

[sick sentinel]

i had to finished 5 lvls on LFD so, that ate into it, but i'm jus stopping caring about leveling TBH, aleady lvled like 8 toons

[brittle owl]

you don't matter

[cobalt seal]

Lu2

[radiant magnet]

please take your romance to DMs

[harsh cedar]

If I only do M+, what current trinkets shoul I try to pick as prot?

Secret Technique?

[sick sentinel]

soleahs is pretty good yeah cuiz its basically a stat stick

[harsh cedar]

And the 2nd one?

[drowsy ruin]

how do i show my block dmg reduction

[sick sentinel]

second trinket something with strength and probably offensive

[harsh cedar]

I cant find one honestly

That is all I can find from current M+

[halcyon dust]

Do the LFR raids, buy a shard or OWS

[harsh cedar]

Codex it is then 🙂

[halcyon dust]

I also don't raid....doing the LFRs for shard/OWS is very worth it

[harsh cedar]

Thanks for your advice 🙂

[halcyon dust]

I sense the passive aggressive. You do you then boo. 2 weeks left in prepatch, you'll replace anything you gear now.

[mellow quartz]

3rd boss in temple of the jade serpent is nutty

[strong forum]

soleahs and grenade are the 2 "best" trinkets from m+

they pale in comparison with raid trinkets

but you wont get better trinkets from m+

[mellow quartz]

600k damage in 2 seconds

[reef spindle]

Horde Players, what race are you playing and does it matter much? I'm playing BELF atm, but i feel like T-mog looks better on Vulpera xD

[strong forum]

i do think so too

vulp its technically best for m+ on horse

[reef spindle]

Because of dmg/healing "pot"?

[strong forum]

and because of nose for trouble

its practically negates the first melee hit we take from every single mob

[inland raft]

Havnt played in a long time but ya i remember over course of key it mitigated about as much as something like scale or aegis, a racial thats about same power as a trinket is pretty strong given how small most racials are

[sick sentinel]

seems like extremely small to me, like i remember there was a similiar argument about some ability or item

[strong forum]

the HMT passive is extremely small

vulpera one is 5% of your max hp reduction on every first hit you take from a mob

at 400k hp, thats a 20k absorb

[spring holly]

If all I care about is dps, then while offtanking is shield block more dps than revenge in ST due to the 30% shield slam buff?

[sick sentinel]

i cant remember what we talked about but it basically came down to the thing was dog shit because it instantly evaporated on a tank

[strong forum]

no.

vulpera was never dogshit

HMT is dogshit

[sick sentinel]

it was like a trinket or something the mechagon armor one possibly, but i think probably something else some absorb crap

[strong forum]

thats

yes entirely different

[sick sentinel]

high mountain is for heritage for me only, i thought about naming him "forheritage"

[silent anchor]

so somehow my deep wounds done 1.5m damage yet i was healed for 300k with FV

[strong forum]

ît doesnt heal if youre full hp

[silent anchor]

that would explain it

[mellow quartz]

3rd boss in jade temple is absurd

have to be in defensive stance for the tank hit and have enough rage banked to fully IP before first hit and in between the 2 hit tank combo to live

and barely live even then

[sturdy sable]

Tyran?

[sick sentinel]

water boss will be very telling of player skill easy gauge

cuz, you get acheivement for doing it correctly and its a personal one

[mellow quartz]

water boss is easy once you just get the timing down

[sick sentinel]

it has adds going on, a jump mechanic even, avoid beam, avoid dead add zone, has it all really

[mellow quartz]

third boss is absurd tank damage

on this 17

Dks are probably completely fine

[sick sentinel]

whats the part he gets killed by

[mellow quartz]

the tank combo

[sick sentinel]

the cross flame?

[mellow quartz]

in jade phase primarily

[sick sentinel]

cross jade flame circles is kind of easy, just have to off set the lines a bit and not stand in shit, don't specifically remember a tank combo

[mellow quartz]

you talking abt the circles at the end when he is a dragon?

I am talking abt the kick and strike combo

[loud sail]

Thanks man! Really appreciate Your wok!

[sick sentinel]

thats what i mean, its been a long time since i've done that fight

[urban bane]

When blocks occur the dr they provide is based off of your shield's block rating, right? Does that wind up being a percentage of the attack you take or is it just flat and not based on the hit

[strong forum]

%

[urban bane]

dope ty

[ebon geyser]

when u realize the alliance warrior u have been playing is a boosted and you find your original one in another server

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-viera-viera-oof-patrick-vieira-vieira-vieira-oof-gif-23517534

im sad now...

[mellow quartz]

casual damage intake

[sick sentinel]

try spell block that maybe i think its a fire dmg isn't it?

[mellow quartz]

it would

but he does like 4-5 jade combos

LS, wall, spell block and healer cd maybe

if coordinated

[sick sentinel]

spell block and externals would be my uneducated guess

[sturdy sable]

Demo shout

[mellow quartz]

but as I said I found I could live it on a 17 by going defensive stance and banking rage so I spammed IP before and in between the combo

[sick sentinel]

spell reflect also reduces Mdmg by 20%

[mellow quartz]

yup

[cobalt seal]

there is no adds

what are you talking about

[mellow quartz]

now add tyr to a key and you will face another 2-4 combos lol

[sick sentinel]

on water boss? there should be

looks like mage elemental

[mellow quartz]

nah they changed whole fight

for water boss

[sick sentinel]

ohhh very interested

[mellow quartz]

dungeon is reworked

[sick sentinel]

im still 100% blind 99% on DF

[cobalt seal]

you know the achiv

[sick sentinel]

theres gunna be dragons, thats about all i know for sure

[cobalt seal]

can be done in HC?

[mellow quartz]

oh and I ran BSV in that dungeon

[cobalt seal]

where boss just dies?

😐

[sick sentinel]

chance to add it to the dungeon meta achievements for DF hero i think its called

ready for raiding part whatever

[maiden osprey]

Hello, I’m leveling my first prot warrior and my first character in WoW tbh, what professions should I get with Prot Warrior?

[ebon geyser]

whatever you like, prof are just a bonus. some like alchemy and engi some like to make armor or just be a gatherer it has no impact on the class

[maiden osprey]

Ohh, thought the bonuses where important

Well, then I’ll go with some gathering for gold

[outer thorn]

in general, anything the professions can make you can just buy off the auction house

[sick sentinel]

i do think it would be cool as hell if you could make a 1/2 hand sword mace as blacksmith, and then upgrade it 10 times total over entire expansion maybe so it keeps up with item lvl

[last crest]

How is Kyrian tank now? still okay to play ?

[cobalt seal]

Okay yes

[torn gulch]

so from peeps that played on beta what is your second trinket after decoration of flame?

[ebon geyser]

@strong forum have u seen or play with the trinket that is called toe something , u summon a feast or something and increase your crit

[strong forum]

Ya

The proc itself is negligible dmg

But Itscprolly juicy to line up with CDs

[ebon geyser]

nice

[marble cipher]

silly question, the "shield block increases your shield slam damage" thing, is that a talent, passive, something else? I'm trying to find it in game atm (and in the case of it being a talent, trying to make sure I didn't miss it)

[drifting fable]

should be an extra passive on shield block itself

[marble cipher]

jeesus, .... learn to look at tooltips before asking something, thanks 😉

[uneven mason]

just part of block 😄

[last crest]

As Kyrian tank, do i want to focus on crit over vers ?

or do i just get 25% crit and pick crit at the affix

[cobalt seal]

you should focus on ilvl mainly

haste is prob still the pick from affix for all around

crit for max dmg

[blazing condor]

ilvl > haste >

i used to play EM with crit build but it wasn't all that