I got really interested in alts because it was warlords
#protection
chilly brook
And there was nothing to do except pvp and raid
And the best way to learn how to pvp is to learn what everyone’s toolkit is
warm plinth
I leveled a lot in warlords but I was on EU at the time so I don't really have access to them anymore
Did a lot of RAF leveling
drifting fable
i miss raf levelling.
run a dungeon, get 4 levels. all that granting level nonsense. good times
warm plinth
Yeah I used to tri-box and run two alts at a time through dungeons
The last time I did it was in WoD though, but I was able to get 1-90 in about 12 hours (on two toons at a time)
fierce juniper
For anyone that uses or used to use my Ignore Pain Tracker WeakAura, it's been broken for a while but I finally got a chance to update it:
https://wago.io/IgnorePainTracker
fierce juniper
For anyone that uses or used to use my Ignore Pain Tracker WeakAura, it's been b...
warm plinth
For anyone that uses or used to use my Ignore Pain Tracker WeakAura, it's been b...
hey we appreciate you friend. ❤️
whole narwhal
Oh thank christ
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily
warm plinth
Ends in 1 hourish
warm plinth
Still here 
ionic fern
warm plinth
@ionic fern 15 1/2 hours. Finally free
warm plinth
Yerp
blazing condor
i slept 13 hours 
blazing condor
ionic fern
I'm at the age that if i sleep more than 8h i'm a zombie but if i sleep less than 7h i'm also a zombie.
mortal brook
Exactly 8 hours? 18 hour depression sleep? Believe it or not, zombie.
mortal brook
Very simple. Just stay in bed.
Then continue losing the argument with your body that you should get out of bed.
Simple as
sick sentinel
i got in bed 9 pm last night, woke up around 30 minutes ago 6 am fwiw regarding sleep
not fall asleep and get out of bed, but basicallysame thing
steep condor
Does anyone know if whether the legion hidden artefact appearance shows up is region wide or character based? I.e. should i check on multiple warriors or is enough?
chrome falcon
Character
steep condor
cool thx guess im camping two of my warriors outside the vault then!
i just met one chap here who has been checking for years! It's that rare? 😦
i have read the valejar book - and there is no more artefact knowledge that you need to get to 5 any more right?
hardy snow
Then continue losing the argument with your body that you should get out of bed.
there are dailies to be done in wow, thats the reason to move ass out of bed
mortal brook
Tru. We trigger insomnia mode in a month or so
blazing condor
there are dailies to be done in wow, thats the reason to move ass out of bed
if the reason i get out of bed is to do dailies in wow, i really hope i don't make it out
sick sentinel
tank list by yogi S-tier: DH/DK. A-tier warrior/paladin. B and lower tier: druid/monk
after playing all tanks to lvl 60
strong forum
Then continue losing the argument with your body that you should get out of bed.
Living that live for almost 10 years now
But technically for over 27
mortal brook
🫂
mortal brook
Napping is great, so is dreaming
minor helm
sick sentinel
eh, your right, theres always BG spam IG
sick sentinel
i can wait till after the pre-patch goes live, but would like that flex i have all 60s before pre-patch
storm merlin
That's not even a flex
sick sentinel
its exactly as you imagine it, i'm retarded and overlook the obvious
get too impatient don't follow the mob, don't pick up the potion, don't use the potion, etc
steep condor
I have just levelled 4 toons. 3 of them were warriors (DONT ASK). 1 was dungeon spam and 3 were questing. Questing was much quicker than dungeon spamming. If it's 51-60 you are talking about do it zone by zone so you get the zone completion bonus. Each quest is worth about 20k and the zone bonus things are worth a load too (they look like wq's but have a different icon). I did them as fury and it was fast af.
modern brook
I have just levelled 4 toons. 3 of them were warriors (DONT ASK). 1 was dungeon ...
why 3 warriors?
cobalt seal
Collecting
steep condor
Also have 2 monks
steep condor
Nah - couldn't make my mind up what server i was going to play on 🙂
cobalt seal
steep condor
And it worked out tbh - i can't raid until 10pm and i found a guild that raids at that time on one of the servers i lvld a new warrior on!
only down side is that it's alliance - i feel dirty.. and it feels wrong.
For the Horde Cupcakes!
minor helm
steep condor
haha 🙂
steep condor
yesterday i applied for +2's on my freshly dinged horde warrior and i got run after run no problems. Today im applying on my freshly dinged alliance warrior and i've been rejected 90% of the time. 10% of the time i was invited, i was kicked 30 seconds later without a word. Same gear as yesterday!
i guess i will be levelling DF in the 252 catchup gear
strong forum
yeah pugging on the low end is tought
ive been declined multiple times from +2s even with max ilvl, people just didnt want a free carry apparently
minor helm
steep condor
225 is plenty for tanking +2's quicklhy =/ Most gear is higher - it's just a couple of 150 items making the avg lower.
strong forum
absolutely
sick sentinel
GG only hunter now
warm plinth
GG only hunter now
🔥
slender quest
Anyone know if the reduced the Boss kills to get Dinar token now and for hc upgrade?
mortal brook
it is not reduced. however, prepatch all raids are fated so you can kill more in a single week
slender quest
Ah okay thx 😀
sick sentinel
Work complete!
mighty valley
wow you're more of a sicko than me
sick sentinel
might have to do more for heritige sets later....
post pre-patch lvl xp values get nerfed, so i will use that to my advantage, delete reduntant characters later (ones just leveled just for that i mean)
south zealot
sick sentinel
how to prot
warm plinth
how to prot
I made a mechagnome mage for my last mage and I named her Pinchyhands
novel temple
What anima powers should I take for the tarragrue
mortal brook
40% damage, then whatever
novel temple
40% increased damage done or 40% less damage taken
ionic fern
Pew pew pow pew
potent anvil
warm plinth
mortal brook
shut summit
warm plinth
should be a normal day today thankfully lol
ionic fern
Normal as in normal hours?
warm plinth
yeah
ionic fern
summer magnet
got a question about the rage management of prot war
has been doing prot war for a period of time
but during M+ whenever i engage a wave with banner and avatar
i will getting the issue that the rage generation is much more faster than how i consume it
and i only do is revenge and overlay ignore pain to consume it
hardy snow
just spam more IP, its main rage dump to avoid rage waste
strong forum
Always dump with IP
Revenge itself isn't fast enough
And you shouldnt prio dumping with revenge over generating with shield slam outside of ravager/LS rage overload moments
Goal is to generate and spend as much as possible
sick sentinel
i didnt do any vault for this week, oh well
sick sentinel
i figure this late in, better to wait for hit 70 on DF in blues/epics and then illl jsut go 1 shot all the SL dungeons that i need mog from.
work on alts and allied race and other stupid crap
uneven mason
Revenge itself isn't fast enough
So what you're saying is we need mop heroic strike back
glacial bough
ui
median tulip
Fk it just take revenge off the gcd
They're never going to take a damage ability off the GCD
wind oak
they wont give them back either
uneven mason
I'm not sure why blizzard is so resistant to giving back heroic strike
I'd settle for a button that just made my next auto attack do the HS animation
wind oak
they dont want fun stuff from old times
weary lodge
They're never going to take a damage ability off the GCD
Have you ever played prot pally? Their main holy power spender for both DEFENSE and highest damage offensive ability which gets buffed by their main M+ leggo is off the GCD
It would be almost exactly like if ignore pain and shield block were the same ability AND were off the GCD
uneven mason
It would be almost exactly like if ignore pain and shield block were the same ab...
I think he means no spammable damage ability will find it's way off the gcd
urban portal
They're never going to take a damage ability off the GCD
Shield charge does 500 ap
And it’s off the gcd
So yeah
Sorry 275
But still
strong forum
So it's 275 + 110
strong forum
Very juice
minor helm
sand steppe
Quick question; 304 package protector shield better than 291 meckacycle shielding right? ilevel is king?
strong forum
on shields ilvl will always be king
sand steppe
I just farming about 25 junkyards for the mekacyle just to get 304 in vault finally
urban portal
Isn’t mechacycle shielding the bad one
sick sentinel
I got a ring in there last night
toxic mesa
And it’s off the gcd
is shield charge off global?
urban portal
Yes
toxic mesa
avatar+shield charge+spear....pvp iwinbutton
hmm
prot pvp here i come!
oh hell no the m+ affixes for next reset.... i guess it's 1 dungeon for vault week
mighty valley
what is it? necrotic + ?
toxic mesa
necrotic and spiteful
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily
mellow bridge
I just farming about 25 junkyards for the mekacyle just to get 304 in vault fina...
Why would you farm the worst shield 🤔
ionic fern
<@238357283996696576> hi ily
prisma sphinx
can someone recommend me a good strimar protection warr
drifting fable
nomeratur and tattman both stream semi-regularly
jagged pier
snse and nomeratur
ionic fern
Mwahi
jagged pier
Jakey
onyx vessel
blazing condor
Goodstuffe
hardy snow
I just farming about 25 junkyards for the mekacyle just to get 304 in vault fina...
type of dungeon you done doesnt matter in terms of what you get in vault, you can make 8x iron docks and get item from karazhan etc.
sick sentinel
im pretty sure nome is 5 tanks all by himself
like, 1 toon
mans a mythic raider or some shit
stable cradle
This is worded weirdly no? Does this mean you don't need rend on the target prior to spread it to another 5 as long as you are talented into rend?
strong forum
Yes
Thunderclap automatically applies rend if talented
No need to press rend manually
blazing condor
thats how it used to be
im glad they brought it back
or maybe it wasn't rend actually, maybe it was grievous wounds
but still the same principle that Rend + TC spread DoTs
modern brook
Thisbwhole time I thought thats just how it workes
hardy snow
but still the same principle that Rend + TC spread DoTs
the thing is, now TC doesnt "spread", it "applies" rend, and thats really great
weary python
It’s been quite some time since I’ve tanked on my warrior and was looking for any pointers to deal with necrotic. Any trinkets to run this week etc, because it seems I leap away to clear stacks around 15-20 tops and the healer I had last night still had an issue keeping the group alive in the JY key. Maybe just a healer issue? Maybe I could do better dropping stacks sooner? Haven’t tanked with necrotic since BFA.
hardy snow
btw. another vault, still no 304 shield from keys 😦
lofty widget
It’s been quite some time since I’ve tanked on my warrior and was looking for an...
necrotic has nothing to do with group surviving?
weary python
Sorry I gotta retype that but between the group damage and running away to drop stacks I was dying
Even though I was already around 80-90% health leaping away
strong forum
Generally you shouldn't feel the need to reset stacks at all
Especially nto at 15-20 stacks
Usually a pwar is fine until 35ish stacks
And your group dying is an entirely seperate issue
Probably healer, or pulling too big/people standing in swirlies
weary python
I did because the healer was struggling to keep me up for some reason
Most I would pull was 5 mobs
Due to his lack of
strong forum
That's another thing in that key range you don't actually need a healer
But that's an experience and practice thing
Necrotic itself isn't really a hamper on things, it's usually just slows down chain pulling and just annoying
So the only real pointers I can give is try to play more around reprisal, utilise SW more freely to reduce dmg intake before you need healing
uneven mason
Sounds like the healer wasn't pressing buttons
strong forum
And just get a better healer idk
Cuz like a group dying is almost entirely on the healer/dps
weary python
Had to pug one and I regretted it and bricked my 17 JY 2mins into it because of him lol
strong forum
Ya that's
Spicy
Oh right it's spiteful ye?
Then it's pretty easy to just wipe with a bad group
People just getting shit on by them
weary python
Yea
uneven mason
Oh right it's spiteful ye?
LoL the "fuck melee" affix
strong forum
Yeah it's terrible
uneven mason
Now I remember why I quit live
strong forum
Just play like I do
weary python
I had all ranged guildies so that wasn’t the issue
strong forum
5tank and don't give fucks
uneven mason
I had all ranged guildies so that wasn’t the issue
Betting it was the issue
strong forum
Still top 50 Prot warri World despite not pushing for 4 weeks
It removes so much difficulty from m+ just being 5 tanks
strong forum
uneven mason
I bet, I'm enjoying being a lock in wotlk until df hits
strong forum
Same
uneven mason
Change of pace
strong forum
Damn cutoff really hit 3.1k
graceful cobalt
hi they nerfed today the Kyrian? becouse now i lost arround 3k dps on raid bot with same gear
mellow bridge
Nope
heavy hawk
Do we have any good build guides for pre patch yet?
strong forum
I could whip smth up if you like
heavy hawk
i would love that tbh.. i didnt try ptr so i have no idea whats going on and everything seems very nice and they wont let me pick everything 😛
strong forum
Smth like this
If yiu don't play seismic legendary, then you obv play the seismic talent
strong forum
It's 5% str
modern brook
i guess more w/ armored teeth too
strong forum
Ravager does around that number yes, but focused vigor is pretty much our strongest dps node on the prot tree
strong forum
Skipping indom is trolling
lusty tiger
We’re gonna be able to go bnt + banner lol
modern brook
hardly
strong forum
That's literally just like not picking indom but IV on retail rn
You're just gonna die between IV uses
modern brook
Indom doesnt compete with ravager on retail
strong forum
When indom just keeps you full HP
For pure omega dmg spam, sure, ravager is better than indom
But not picking indom is just
jagged pier
Indom doesnt compete with ravager on retail
strong forum
And sure, we have 10% leech that also helps but idk
strong forum
I'm never advocating for being squishy
sick sentinel
'your first priority is to survive'
just like old games, like original doom, only 2 ojbectives
surive, and proceed
modern brook
I'm never advocating for being squishy
MAybe im over valueing perma shield block and what i expect to be like a 40s CD on shield wall
between wall AM and conduit
strong forum
Indom is the reason why prot is any form of tanky rn in SL
You'd just be permanently slowly dying without it
In df you get more tools sure, but I won't recommend anybody to play without it
orchid frigate
How will we be off in pre patch?
strong forum
Yes
hardy snow
isnt better to take thunderlord instead of show of force?
strong forum
No because you can't pick booming voice
Or well, you can, but then you lose outburst
hardy snow
or vigor, but its also bad, damn i wish sets stayed for prepatch, would be easier to pick XD
strong forum
Nah you don't wanna lose vigor ever
It's one of the biggest nodes in the entire prot tree
ebon geyser
@strong forum can't find it 
ebon geyser
strong forum
It's only a few lines
ebon geyser
I'm at the beginning of oct
modern brook
#protection message its litterally 2 finger scrolls
modern brook
its ok you're among friends
modern brook
Indom is the reason why prot is any form of tanky rn in SL
I'll concede but why bolster > tough as nails? does TaN underperform?
modern brook
nothings mandatory im dropping indom for ravager >:)
but theres a lot of wiggle room in the class tree
theres like 11 points in the first tier
storm gives cc which is useful when things need to be cc'd
you would otherwise not have cc for those things
ebon geyser
I just wanna have the less amount of buttons to press. Lol
But if I need to take it sure
modern brook
I'm not sure what you would replace it with personally
I also will say that warrior gets like 80 new spells from its talent tree
gritty swallow
Storm hammer as an offensive ability as opposed to cc be a gigachad dps
ebon geyser
I also will say that warrior gets like 80 new spells from its talent tree
My bars where not that bad in beta
graceful cobalt
hmm on ptr the talents are other as on wowhead
hardy snow
I'll concede but why bolster > tough as nails? does TaN underperform?
it makes LS to lineup with banner CD, so its pretty cool during prepatch
urban portal
did they nerf LS back to 3min
i thought they made LS 2 min
and made bolster only have a 10 second cdr
modern brook
They did
I forgot unnerving focus was a conduit that would be active lmao
if you dont want to take my word:
urban portal
yeah thought so
lusty tiger
Big nerfs
Now there’s some evidence to point to when the forums are filled with warrior haters
strong forum
I'll concede but why bolster > tough as nails? does TaN underperform?
To get 100% block uptime
You can't get 100% block uptime without 3 block talents
modern brook
Do you not just have it between heavy rep and the +2s?
strong forum
You'll get close, but not quite
modern brook
Oh OK
strong forum
Its closer to 80% without bolster/bulwark
strong forum
Like is it mandatory
No, but there are hardly better choices, you can move a couple points around, but you need to spend the points somewhere
strong forum
Yesh
Well you can still play reprisal
But it's just alot worse than being able to play 75% seismic legendary and still gave 100% block uptime
Or however much it is, forgot the exact number
mighty valley
hmm I should recraft seismic this week huh
charred ivy
this maybe been asked before. im sorry if so. But do you swap something for necrotic?
strong forum
No
charred ivy
kk ty 🙂 i hate necro its a big bliss for me its gone soon xD
cinder nova
Nom is definitely on point that you can do crazy pulls and outrageous cleave damage in high keys when you aren't sweating down your scrote on surviving
It's a bit of a mental thing.
Technically you do as much DPS at 1 HP as you do at 150K HP, but where you're at intake-wise can govern a lot of how aggro you might get.
At least, anyway, that's what I've had experience with.
cinder storm
I agree, it's easier to spam revenge when you have a team willing to help rather than reserving brain power for when you need to leap or use big defensives 
vs 
sick sentinel
sooner i unlock allied races, sooner i can park them in org/sw to collect max rested for tuesday or whenver the xp values change
whole narwhal
This seems like a disaster waiting to happen, but yall think people would even join my group if I try to tank mythic dungeons with only 1 legendary on pre patch?
Warrior seems like it would be stronger during prepatch regardless, even if I'm missing reprisal
modern brook
Reprisal is less necessary in prepatch cause we have a lot more block and rage management baked into the tree
mighty valley
legendaries aren't nearly as expensive as they once were
modern brook
Like you're obviously at a disadvantage but you should be able to tank things just fine with proper play
jagged pier
seismic
mighty valley
maybe grab one before prepatch drops
jagged pier
and signet
modern brook
Also that
jagged pier
whole narwhal
I mean I have unity obviously
But the stupid reprisal slot is still 20k, and seemed like a waste
modern brook
Seismic and signet pepe
whole narwhal
Which slot is signet?
mighty valley
ring
jagged pier
wrist
urban portal
Get a 190 Lego
whole narwhal
The 190 are more expensive than the 291
Cause some guy wanted to meme
But I probably will anyway
modern brook
It's a gamba
Ppl have unwanted stock
Just need one misclick or one poorly programmed script to make bank on something that won't sell anyways
sand marsh
is there a bar version of the ignore pain WA
uneven mason
Wat
sick sentinel
is there a bar version of the ignore pain WA
there is some kind of update to the ip wa by the author here in the pins,, but im not aware of an ip wa in bar form
sand marsh
yea i saw the pin, it just isnt in a progress bar form
jagged pier
https://clips.twitch.tv/AbstruseSmilingPepperChocolateRain-qk_kXCHjNUkEemPC
this is just amazing
chilly brook
sick sentinel
im trying to remember what that mechanic there even is
im 90%+ sure that its the add has to be XY yards from target or it does that.
chilly brook
im 90%+ sure that its the add has to be XY yards from target or it does that.
no boss does a locust swarm thing that you have to kite and the raid needs to be away from
it stops you from casting and does huge DoT damage if you are in it
and if you die you spawn adds
strong forum
https://clips.twitch.tv/AbstruseSmilingPepperChocolateRain-qk_kXCHjNUkEemPC
Is that the run where he wanted to get undying in?
Just barely missed it
chilly brook
Is that the run where he wanted to get undying in?
idk but I wouldn't be surprised
strong forum
His title today was "getting undying today"
chilly brook
then nah was from last week
sick sentinel
i only ever did that fight as rogue
vestal moat
WHat covenant are we playing prepatch? Necro still viable or nah
modern brook
Still necro
urban portal
You can play whatever you want
At least venthyr no longer does 0 execute damage
Compared to necro
modern brook
Yah
vestal moat
Can someone link the "casts" section of a typicallog for a DF m+ prot key? Not the damage, want to see the actual casts, cpm, etc. For keybinding purposes.
cobalt seal
Can someone link the "casts" section of a typicallog for a DF m+ prot key? Not t...
you should prob check ptr
and test yourself and define the keybinds there
vestal moat
Seems like execute is being cast a lot less right. that's in a prime spot presently for me, need to relocate
sick sentinel
found out where the spell for storming affix came from lol same effect just smaller texture
urban portal
Seems like execute is being cast a lot less right. that's in a prime spot presen...
Yeah execute got a bit weaker and have to revenge to keep tier up, but we have sudden death and massacre
So you are casting more executes over a fight but less executes as a percent of other spells
modern brook
Execute doesn't reset sheild slam right?
urban portal
it does
modern brook
Oh thats pog
blazing condor
No bulli
modern brook
Reading is for losers mostly
sick sentinel
wow thats alot of words
blazing condor
Slow chat
sick sentinel
10.0 waiting room, literal
sick sentinel
lusty tiger
I’m reporting u
sick sentinel
didn't play it, but
lusty tiger
Nome must be like 1 question of mine, away from blocking me- I’ve asked about so many things lol
sick sentinel
they shouldn't give players like me beta lol
lilac bloom
since the new dragonflight release in 4 days time. There will be no more weekly vaults right? and fated affix will be no more for raids just new raids etc right? im just wondering if theres a point doing all 3 vault loots
sick sentinel
just the pre-release
28th nov for real release, yes season 4 will end, not sure how future vaults will be handled but its still a feature in DF they were happy with vault in SL
lilac bloom
oh good.. i will keep doing it then.. i wasnt sure all the stuff i work hard on with mythic raids was still worth doing i got 4 more of those thinga that turn loot to mythic gear
ornate thunder
Wasn’t there a recent blue post saying vaults/rewards/ faded go on till launch
mellow bridge
Yes everything goes on until launch
They don't just randomly cut out all the content we have
That would be quite dumb
minor helm
and xeos doesnt
Xeos has it
naive leaf
Hello, i'm leveling prot warrior. Is it normal you're not very tanky while leveling ? I feel like if i dont have Shield Block + Ignore Pain active 100% of the time i'll get deleted
toxic mesa
i just leveled up a prot warrior, i think it was until 40 or so that you are fucking paper
then suddenly you become a tank, cant remember what you got around those lvls
naive leaf
There is Last stand at 38, Indomitable at 40 or Riposte at 42
naive leaf
and after like 25-30
well i'm 38 and get deleted so maybe i missed something
cobalt seal
well i'm 38 and get deleted so maybe i missed something
what exactly are you pulling to get deleted
naive leaf
Around 7 mobs depending on the dungeon
cobalt seal
are you turning your back on the mobs?
naive leaf
depends if i have shield wall too
cobalt seal
because I was barely pressing IP and never really had issues with dying
toxic mesa
i actually lvld up a holy paladin yesterday too, saw so many paper tanks
naive leaf
I try to not do that but sometimes i gotta run around cause i lost aggro because of a lvl 11 spamming aoe and doing absurd damage
cobalt seal
i actually lvld up a holy paladin yesterday too, saw so many paper tanks
not pwars
naive leaf
also maybe i dont build enough aggro cause i put pretty much everything in IP + SB instead of Revenge
toxic mesa
all tanks are shit at low lvl, except for monk which is op when dualwielding and having lifestealing on both weapons
mighty valley
yeah i don't remember having trouble tanking leveling dungeons
guess i was in heirlooms, that could make a difference
cobalt seal
I try to not do that but sometimes i gotta run around cause i lost aggro because...
you can't do shit vs certain specs in low lvls
cobalt seal
all tanks are shit at low lvl, except for monk which is op when dualwielding and...
hello
fuck monks
mana sponges
toxic mesa
try brm with double lifestealing, the proc doesnt have any icd...spamming sck it procs A LOT
its crazy
cobalt seal
tell that to the people I have to heal
toxic mesa
which is why a lvl 10 mistweaver with lifestealing can solo every dungeon and boost others
naive leaf
ok i think i found part of the problem
never looted a ring 😂
and heirloom doesnt scale anymore
toxic mesa
upgrade heirlooms, and btw you can have two of those trinkets
mighty valley
you haven't gotten any rings or replacements for those greens in your dungeon bags? wild
toxic mesa
also, you are 38 and dont have ANY rings yet?
naive leaf
idk BFA random dungeon dont give dungeon bags
naive leaf
welp
cobalt seal
how dont you have better gear
naive leaf
time to go questing a bit
cobalt seal
aren't you spamming dungeons?
mighty valley
bfa dungeons are the worst ones to do ime
naive leaf
yep but look like i'm unlucky
cobalt seal
unlucky?
mighty valley
classic dungeons have a million quests at the start of every one and gives you a bag
cobalt seal
you never saw 6 pieces?
toxic mesa
you get quests, boss drops and 1-2 loot boxes from every dungeon
cobalt seal
I find it hard to believe that from the cache and quests you never saw those items
it's not just the rings
mighty valley
bfa dungeons don't have quests
cobalt seal
you have 4 pieces at 16
cobalt seal
bfa dungeons don't have quests
you dont lvl in bfa
mighty valley
yeah i'm saying this is the problem
cobalt seal
classic-tbc-wrath-pandaria
toxic mesa
ilvl 16 is like lvl 10 gear you get from quests
naive leaf
yep gonna go pandaria do some quest lol
cobalt seal
that's the expansions you do
mighty valley
anyway, we diagnosed the issue. another problem solved, good work gang
cobalt seal
not only that
toxic mesa
"IM TAKING SO MUCH DAMAGE" "bro, you are naked"
toxic mesa
cata dungeons are pretty nasty
naive leaf
tbc are weird sometimes
mighty valley
tbc ones are a mix, the tempest keep ones are long and kind of ass
toxic mesa
mechanar and botanica are great, many quests and quite fast
cobalt seal
if people have no idea what keep does
you better off leaving and taking a forced break
then spending 40+ in it
because you gonna wipe a few times
toxic mesa
dire maul, durnholde, arcatraz, brd (depending on wing) are the dungeons you dont want on your random dungeon
everything else is alright
mighty valley
durnholde for sure a pain in the ass
dire maul is fine if the tank knows where they're going, nightmare otherwise
sick sentinel
they'd almost have to do what they did to kara or a similiar dungeon for DM
like the whole thing re-done, or cut inito pieces at the very least
i dont really remember any of the cataclysm dungeons being particularly deadly except for the tornadoe sections taking a long time to progress and annoying trash to fight, mostly the blue healer guys, and theres 2 packs of stars that if you wait a second for everyone to be near, can probably roots them or somthing and then they are all within 5 yards to cleave down.
final boss got tons of people especially with the snare
toxic mesa
in bloodmaul slagmines those big drakonid dudes have a bugged instant ability that oneshots the tank
toxic mesa
yes there is
pallid quiver
there's certainly a raid and a daily zone there
but unless they removed a dungeon and my memory's bad, i don't think there's one in hyjal
toxic mesa
what the hell, am i hallucinating
pallid quiver
I know there's large dracos with the polearms in Blackrock Caverns that oneshots people
hits them for like 200k or something iirc
which is a bit more hp than a levelling tank has
pallid quiver
at any rate Some of the trash mechanics in Cata dungeons can mirk people real good
oh there's a quest portal there from hyjal
iirc you can just, like, walk in from blackrock mountain
toxic mesa
never done that, ive entered the cata raid in blackrock mountain, but not the dungeon
mighty valley
blackrock depths, blackrock spire? definitely blackrock mountain
blackrock caverns? that's got to be hyjal
toxic mesa
and it is!
pallid quiver
are you doing a bit
He's talking about the mole machine that sends you there from a questline in Hyjal; it was the breadcrumb quest in Cata.
The proper entrance is still Blackrock Mountain, though
naive leaf
"IM TAKING SO MUCH DAMAGE" "bro, you are naked"
I got some piece of gear and it is now impossible to die. Funny how not having empty slots help
Btw i was wondering, is tanking in wow like FF14 where you use all your defensive cd for big trash pull and then get them back up while you're doing the boss ?
onyx vessel
I mean prot warrior you can die to 3 mobs fully geared if you dont play properly
urban portal
Btw i was wondering, is tanking in wow like FF14 where you use all your defensiv...
you hold your big defensives when you need them
both big packs and bosses have mechanics that can chunk you
pallid quiver
Btw i was wondering, is tanking in wow like FF14 where you use all your defensiv...
WoW's dungeons like, exist mechanically in multiple ways and has varying difficulty as compared to 14's dungeons which... just have mechanics and you use your defensives simply to go faster with minimal threat of death otherwise assuming mechanics are done, so it depends. Defensive CDs for tanks are also often on a lower CD than in 14, as well, and trash packs, especially in M+, can actually live a meaningful amount of time
So you can expect to use defensives on:
A single spoopy trash mob of note
Big trash pulls
Bosses
Small trash pulls
Cheesing mechanics
sometimes all in a single run
That being said, I last played 14 in Stormblood and bit of the expac after (didn't hit level cap content, though I hit level cap) so it could be different now. There's also a higher need to utilize utility abilities, of which there's more of in WoW in comparison to FF14, which are mostly coordination based damage increase/damage decreases
onyx radish
Is swing timer optimization a thing with Devastator?
urban portal
No
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily. it's my friday and I accidentally discovered that work doesn't have discord blocked anymore on the web app.
dusky temple
Is there a weak aura, details plug in or a stand alone addon which tracks the amount of damage prevented by blocking in aggregate?
ionic fern
<@238357283996696576> hi ily. it's my friday and I accidentally discovered that...
Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig. 😮
jagged pier
Is there a weak aura, details plug in or a stand alone addon which tracks the **...
u need logs
dusky temple
ok ty
urban portal
You’d imagine it’s easy to track in addons
It’s literally right there in combat logs
dusky temple
I would yes, since blocks are denoted and you always block a certain percentage
urban portal
You don’t always block a certain percentage
It’s based on your block value
Then crit blocks
Etc
I find it weird that a lot of people still think we block 30%
urban portal
If you change your chat to combat log
The #blocked is there
So can’t imagine it’s hard to have an add on to sum it
ionic fern
Probably not. 
pallid quiver
I like to default to:
Did i die?
- Yes > i suck.
- No > i suck less.
sick sentinel
i still wonder if it will be able to critically block a spell with the talent... reduce pyroblast to a fireballs damagw, no big deal though
jagged pier
i still dont understand why it is a talent
theres literally 0 need to take it
SR and a cd will do the job
summer magnet
Will heavy repercussions and kyrian work better for necrotic ?
Or just kite ‘em with thunderclap
jagged pier
why would HR work better for necrotic?
but the short answer is yes kyrian can help but isnt needed
toxic mesa
and if you are kiting mobs, maybe have an actual slow in there instead of clapping
threat shouldnt be an issue after youve pumped all your damage in while getting those stacks up
summer magnet
Thought if i can maintain shield block probably can stay longer? I am not sure
toxic mesa
you should have at least 25 seconds or so of SB even with poor play/lower haste
after 25 seconds you are running anyway....considering how fast mobs stack necrotic on warrior because it doesnt avoid pretty much anything
lofty widget
necrotic is such a non affix now tho... with proper play our dmg intake is so low that even at 50 stacks it hardly does anything
and if you have to reset you can just shockwave and take 2 steps back
toxic mesa
that depends on key level, and i find it odd that there wouldnt be need for shockwave as cc in the pack before that, or that the mobs wouldnt have stun dr on them at that point when you start feeling like backpedaling a little
strong forum
Necrotic is not that hard people, if you play well you forget about it even existing
lofty widget
even then banner is 30 % move speed, just outrun them
lofty widget
last necrotic week i was doing some fun 25+s never reset once so..
toxic mesa
that depends on many things
if you are at 50 stacks and 20% health, you have to reset
cobalt seal
If you got to 20%
strong forum
It's annoying, but you do not need to do any special things or workarounds around necrotic specifically in terms of gear or talents.
cobalt seal
You already fucked up
strong forum
And yes, if you're not healthy you obv go and reset the stacks
Shockwave+leap
Or just a tactical w away
lofty widget
depends tbh, if the mobs die before you do you can stay in
strong forum
Yes
toxic mesa
the annoying, and special, thing about necrotic that it's effectively a ticking clock that is being controlled by OTHERS in your group
how is the dps of the group and are those guys actually using their cc's
summer magnet
Thanks , one more question: is it wise or unwise to start another wave immediately in order to extend the banner?
toxic mesa
if they are actively using their cc's, you can sit on your shockwave and use it only when necessary
unfortunately that's usually not the case, the tank usually needs to use shockwave and intimidating shout before the dps does jack shit 😄
sick sentinel
spell block would be fanatastic for some boss that shoots a fireball at you and then it does damage over time based on how much it hit for
instead of like 2,000 dmg ticks, 500-1,000 dmg ticks
cobalt seal
Or kick or sr
sick sentinel
true, just maybe kick or SR isn't ready yet, better yet, play DH for silence sigil
i really enjoyed my time playing as DH, might continue it
sick sentinel
i could make double and triple the sizes of mobs pulled leveling though and not wipe us
bear, i can hardly pull fuck all
DH i just silence and on fire stuff and attack em, jump away, was using heroic leap like i would infernal slam
i joined DH discord and bear discord last week, but less than a dozen messages in each so far. was already in dk. guess i'll go work on rest of the alliance argus story for alliance allied races.
strong forum
------------Level 60 Builds------------
pre-patch m+:
Basic m+ Build with "The Wall" Legendary
if you dont have the wall you just pick up Impenetrable Wall Talent instead of Defenders Aegis
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUgURQRlBAQBEMVUVEVERFVYBQDQQA
This Build is probably the most m+ damage but you will be squishier on bosses and rely on your healer more in low target situations. proudly presented by @modern brook
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUkVRAQlBAQBBMVUVEVERFVYAUDQRA
pre-patch Raid
(have not tested them myself)
This Build with "The Wall" Legendary
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURVUUgRRUQlBAQCAQMVUVFVERFRYBQCUA
This Build with "Reprisal" Legendary
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAVRUUUgFRUQlBAQBBMVUVFRERFVYBQDURA
Full ST burn but squishy on bosses with "Reprisal" Legendary
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAVRUUUgFRUQlBAQBBMVUVFRERFVRQFDUBA
updated 16th Nov
uneven mason
Shockwave+leap
Don't forget to shockwave nothing brings joy to my heart like leap allowing a shot to the back of my head trying to reset stacks
uneven mason
Dammit didn't scroll me down
cobalt seal
Okay how do I remove the embeds on mobile
:bearsignboosted:
modern brook
**------------__Level 60 Builds__------------**
__**pre-patch m+:**__
Basic m+ B...
the 2nd build req's lvl 61
IDT you meant to booming voice
ornate thunder
Is that shield in JY worth fishing up if you don’t have a raid shield?
For m+ primarily
strong forum
JY shield is the worst shield in the game
strong forum
the 2nd build req's lvl 61
Aaand build removed
modern brook
No rava :^(
modern brook
I'm still going to throw away indom in prepatch tbh
Until it absolutely blows up in my face
modern brook
Yah im not planning on pushing keys during prepatch
i am planning on RAVAGING them tho
strong forum
We will prolly do some dumb shit
5tank +30s will prolly happen
Our group gets sooo much dmg
modern brook
what part of standard wow gameplay is considered dumb shit nom?
strong forum
I reckon 5tank keys qualify as dumb shit
modern brook
I'm still trying to figure out if there is another tank im interested in for DF
and the answer seems pretty heavily no
strong forum
Vdh frailty seems very fun
Playing that min maxing with frailty ramping to get phat fucking globals
modern brook
my list right now is basically Prot>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vdh>bdk=brew
modern brook
I could be convinced to touch brew
But you may notice paladin and bear not even on the list
undone owl
But you may notice paladin and bear not even on the list
FIRST: I'm not trolling. Asking honestly. Second: What are you basing this on?? Have you played Prot Pally? In what way is Warr better? Right now I play Prot Warr, Prot Pally, DH and Guardian. I feel like Prot warr is a labor of love. The reward does not correlate w/ the effort (spamminess). But I'm struggling with, why play an A tier tank? Warr is not S tier. Cant remember last time it was.
lusty tiger
They’re cool
undone owl
They’re cool
That works
lusty tiger
And big parses for underrepresented specs
undone owl
And big parses for underrepresented specs
as I said, labor of love.
lusty tiger
It’s a flex
undone owl
same thing
lusty tiger
That’s pretty neat imo
modern brook
FIRST: I'm not trolling. Asking honestly. Second: What are you basing this on?...
War is cool pally is garbage loser spec for cowards mostly
War is w teir
strong forum
It's a personal list of enjoyment
undone owl
War is cool pally is garbage loser spec for cowards mostly
that's childish.. what does that mean. How does DK not fall into that same category. Make a coherent arg pls?!
modern brook
No I don't think I will :^)
strong forum
It's not a "which tank is good" list
It's got nothing to do with numbers, it's just a "what do I like" list
undone owl
It's got nothing to do with numbers, it's just a "what do I like" list
totally, I respect that which is why I play prot warr. its difficult to me, and I'm not good at it. By comparison to going from a druid. Again, labor of love
cobalt seal
My list is vdh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bear>>>>>ppala>bdk>brew>pwar
blazing condor
No I don't think I will :^)
sturdy sable
FIRST: I'm not trolling. Asking honestly. Second: What are you basing this on?...
Why be a low T bdk when i could be a chad pwar?
bold furnace
steep elm
Hi, is Devastator bugged on SL ? It never procs for me...
lofty widget
Are you above lvl 28? It wont work unless you are
severe hatch
@undone owl Do you have Beta access? Right now PPal is a much harder spec to play than PWarr, which is the inverse of how it is on Live
steep elm
Are you above lvl 28? It wont work unless you are
oh I see thank you
ebon wren
This DF tree looks broken af. Can’t wait.
ebon wren
10% base leech? Near Immunity every 3 mins? Self healing? Aoe interrupt? Group shield wall and two charges? 20 sec magic block. Lol wtf
cinder storm
ebon wren
Literally four days away but okay
ebon wren
💫
sturdy sable
10% base leech? Near Immunity every 3 mins? Self healing? Aoe interrupt? Group...
Magic block is a DnT btw
Unless there is a absolute need for it its a wasted point
ebon wren
Dude. #997237573514690620 wtf
sturdy sable
I mean i answered your question anyways after you were told
But if you wanna be that way
undone owl
<@590174730565451776> Do you have Beta access? Right now PPal is a much harder s...
I do have access to beta.. but i haven't really delved into it
severe hatch
Pwarr is becoming much much less punishing with the DF changes
undone owl
Pwarr is becoming much much less punishing with the DF changes
So admittedly it's punishing now? Present day Pwarr advice: Before you even think about going into a M+ key you should spend time mastering banner up time. Present day Druid advice: Druid - Swipe / trash on cd. incarn go burr
ionic fern
severe hatch
@undone owl absolutely, but this is only relevant for ~94 more hours
And the original conversation was in context of tank choice for Dragonflight
cinder storm
But if you have trouble sleeping, sleep studies have determined bear to be extremely helpful
ebon wren
I liked my bear first couple seasons. 😦 I dont like doing 4K dps to a boss in season 4 though.
undone owl
<@590174730565451776> absolutely, but this is only relevant for ~94 more hours
That's a good point. I'm just bitter about ME being a bad prot warr. despite considerable effort.
undone owl
And the original conversation was in context of tank choice for Dragonflight
My fav tank is prot warr. I like the required activity. I'm just bad at it. Really bad at it 😦 I liken it to juggling a bowling ball, a tennis ball, a plate and a stick
ebon wren
I’m terrible. Cannot keep banner up for anything. I didn’t play my war season 4 but hoping to for df
undone owl
I’m terrible. Cannot keep banner up for anything. I didn’t play my war season 4 ...
the best banner up time i have ever had is 86 % which i think is really bad compared to others
cobalt seal
I’m terrible. Cannot keep banner up for anything. I didn’t play my war season 4 ...
sorry to inform you
Pwar CPM will still be 70+
ebon wren
Will see. If I don’t have to watch a banner timer and also intervene and charge timers it will be a lot less stressful
undone owl
Will see. If I don’t have to watch a banner timer and also intervene and charge ...
I desperately want to be agood at banner uptime. its like fun I just suck at it
ebon wren
Not to mention shield block timer. Omg. So many ways to make a mistake on pwar.
Ignore pain. Lol
ebon wren
I did for a while. It gets over capped a lot but definitely healed more
ebon wren
I started maining a pally and you get used to constantly laying consecration. I moved to same key and it became easy mentally to treat it the same.
undone owl
I started maining a pally and you get used to constantly laying consecration. I ...
I do mad low keys on a Prot warr and ppl think i'm a god. like 15s .. and i'm golden. . but 22s+ and ppl are like dude you're trash
ebon wren
I think we’re playing the same char
undone owl
I think we’re playing the same char
LOL!
modern brook
What the fuck are you talking about yogi
sick sentinel
something off topic my bad
sick sentinel
true, just flip through channels go to respond to someone, wrong chat, yeah pretty much nothing to do on wow at all for me except maybe slime cat and mount farm
modern brook
Nah ur good I'm just tryna parse that and it's coming up blank
tired wasp
Who has good prot warrior videos to see it done right? I've been away for a while, and trying to get my rhythm back.
Clarification: looking for M+ runs, not a guide.
chilly brook
Who has good prot warrior videos to see it done right? I've been away for a whil...
There are a few but most of the information will be outdated within a week
Here’s what you should learn how to do, upkeep block when you’re getting hit with blockable attacks (weapon swings, shooty shoots, certain spells) there’s a spreadsheet in the pins to help you know what you can and can’t block, press shield slam on CD, charge weave to take advantage of reprisal and upkeep block, spend excess rage on revenge, IP to help make sure you don’t overcap, press avatar on CD and make liberal use of your defensives
tired wasp
There are a few but most of the information will be outdated within a week
I need to get used to charging packs and tanking them in place lol. Got spoiled with Avenger Shield making even casters move wherever I want them. 😅
chilly brook
I mean
Are you rerolling just because “prot broken in DF”
Cuz I’d just play whatever tank you feel is fun
tired wasp
I may not reroll. But I'm also looking at playing my dps spec more, and thinking Fury might be easier to learn than Ret. I've had both tanks since Cata. Just haven't played the Warrior since Legion.
My plan is to spam some dungeons with the warrior till I get used to it then decide.
chilly brook
That would be my suggestion
Play with a bunch of different specs in prepatch see what clicks
But generally what you need to know:
- block as much blockable damage as you can
- press shield slam on CD
- use your CDs on CD
- use defensives before damage comes out, and don’t be afraid to use them especially shield wall
tired wasp
Thanks @chilly brook !
chilly brook
I forgot 5) don’t overcap rage
And on the topic of 4
There’s a lot of synergy in the talent tree coming up so this is going to be even more important than it is now
So get in the habit of hitting stuff like demoralizing shout on CD
sick sentinel
Hey guys quick Q, is the cap on ignore pain still 2* the cast value?
sick sentinel
this is current patch or df?
cobalt seal
both
sick sentinel
nice ty, trynna find a handy IP bar but all of them uses the *2 cap and is wacky as hell
ill just make my own lol thanks for the help appreciate iut
cobalt seal
nice ty, trynna find a handy IP bar but all of them uses the *2 cap and is wacky...
tbf
the value of IP isn't important
sick sentinel
yea im trynna make a % one
cobalt seal
you wont really change the way you play because you have full IP
or its about to expire
chilly brook
yea im trynna make a % one
As mentioned, pretty useless
You don’t actively track IP
There’s not a situation where you’d not press IP if you need to burn rage and not cap. And you’re not really concerned about “overcapping” IP. You’re just concerned with not capping rage and maybe pressing IP over revenge if you’re just taking a ton of damage
tired lion
**------------__Level 60 Builds__------------**
__**pre-patch m+:**__
Basic m+ B...
Hi ty for informations, but build & legs will be only for mm+ or for raid so
thanks in advance 🙂
strong forum
updated the pin
sick sentinel
me personally imma just play a bunch of steam games till 10.0 go into expansion mostly but not entirely blind
way i have done every wow expansion i had beta for
charred ivy
in prepatch we gonna keep legendary effects? what about banner etc? cause ive heard some ppl say they stay some say they get inactivated
lyric elm
as i understand it they will be limited to shadowlands areas
charred ivy
i see. do the iron docks etc count as shadowlands area?
cause if they dont count as that its only tazavesh u can use them in? xD
onyx vessel
updated the pin
patent osprey
There’s not a situation where you’d not press IP if you need to burn rage and no...
If you can I'd definitely track it though. It's great for magic heavy bosses like medivh and last boss mechagon so you pool rage for arcane missiles type abitiles and not get blasted/overcap
topaz hamlet
Heyho 😄
Can't really decide which trinkets i should use:
Shard of Annhylde's Aegis - 291
Enforcer's Stun Granade - 298
So'leah's Secret Technique - 298
Codex of the First Technique -298
Since wowhead ranks the Codex in D-Tier, i should use two of the first thress trinkets... but in my M+ Logs i had the Codex deal from 4-6% of my overall dmg.
Seems ok for me.. is it because i suck playin prot or will the other options just be even better?
Thx 4 help!
strong forum
soleahs + aegis for defensive
soleahs + stungrenade for dmg
codex needs to do 7% of your dmg before its any benefit offensively for you specifically
codex gets better the worse you are at the class
so inversely, the better you get, the worse codex becomes
grave crane
It’s in the pins down a bit but the damage reduction applies after all our other forms of mitigation including ip so it’s really not good. Also no strength is not good
topaz hamlet
Thx a lot 🙂
topaz hamlet
codex gets better the worse you are at the class
Thats what i already assumed 😄
tired lion
soleahs + aegis for defensive
hi mate, lack talent 'Intervene' with your build in pins for Raid with 'Reprisal' Legendary no?
grave crane
Do you really need it though?
mental scarab
Whats the ivl 15 drops now? Havent played this season and thinking of gearing abit for dragon isle
strong forum
398 i think
blazing condor
finally we're back in cataclysm ilvl
orchid frigate
i wish that streamers on beta would stop playing protwar
cobalt seal
Most dont play pwar
orchid frigate
glansed through gingi's, lemiike's and fragnance. all had pwar tanks
but sure, i cant account for all streamers
blazing condor
the less we're noticed the better
strong forum
everybody is on the pwar train cuz its easy and strong
orchid frigate
the less we're noticed the better
exactly!
nice if a tank feels strong at the beginning of an expansion. i remember how it was in SL s1
sick sentinel
prot warrior is very 4head tank, so yeah, people like it
orchid frigate
i havent kept up so im curious how we bridge not having reprisal for block uptime 🙂
spiral compass
non warrior related does anyone use automatic wow addon updater was using wow ip but i dont think its working anymore
strong forum
i use curseforge standalone
orchid frigate
same
blazing dirge
samesame
lyric elm
i havent kept up so im curious how we bridge not having reprisal for block uptim...
We got a +2 sec block time talent and a new charge that gives block, and of course last stand. Won't be a problem
orchid frigate
sweet
lyric elm
The charge can be done point blank too so no issues
spiral compass
banner uptime loses its important in pre patch or DF release
spiral compass
oh ok so even in pre patch and DF we want to keep that uptime up as much as possible @strong forum
spiral compass
i saw that one of the guides in the pin uses a macro with banner last stand and avatar all in one is this still viable?
strong forum
i dont use it, but sure
mighty valley
one less button to press on pull but i wouldn't use the macro later, there are times you want to hold banner refresh if forced downtime is coming up
spiral compass
@strong forum do you recommend a video guide on banner uptime help or anything along those lines
strong forum
i wouldnt have pinned the video if i didnt recommend it
uneven mason
Whoa Nom you can't expect to know that the pins contain pertinent information, have you seen the crap other class discords keep in there
mighty valley
i will forgive anyone with a cute dog profile pic
spiral compass
forgive? thank you bud did i offend someone?
uneven mason
No worries
spiral compass
ok
uneven mason
Also is that a husky puppy or a all white Shiba Inu?
spiral compass
husky puppy i think it’s got some wolf in it pure white
uneven mason
Because one is adorable and the other one is the destroyer of apartments
Husky can be pure white, no wolf needed
spiral compass
the breeder and the dogs father is bigger than average husky he’s 100lbs it’s 50/50 wolf husky he has 70/30 and 95/5 massive but than again he could be bull shitting i just wanted a husky
blazing condor
out of the loop
do legendaries stop working when pre patch hits
asking for my mom
who's about to get her first leggo
drifting fable
legendaries will work tier does not
blazing condor
if you have no leggo whats the highest ilvl leggo you can get
drifting fable
291
blazing condor
do you still gotta get tier 3 then get shit to upgrade it
or can you just buy whatever
drifting fable
nah you can go right to 291
blazing condor
thanks friend
stable valve
100% avatar uptime in prepatch looking possible?
oblique garnet
oi @sick sentinel wake up time to tank beta m+
you heard me
oh well what do you have talent set ups for then?
we go with that
oh yikes
whats your name gägä
on beta
strong forum
100% avatar uptime in prepatch looking possible?
No
stable valve
how close you think with IO, UW, AM, bolster, necro, final stand conduit and the wall lego?
iirc I could get around 60% or so on live in ST
urban portal
throw a PI in there and its doable
strong forum
To get 100% uptime on it, you'd need to be able to generate over 2k rage per minute
stable valve
that's including using SW to cast it?
urban portal
play better
strong forum
You only get 4 seconds from IO
urban portal
also if you wanna reach 100% uptime i think UF is definitely the play
strong forum
Nah
UF isn't that much more rage gen than not having it
It's like 25 extra rage per avatar
That's not alot
oblique garnet
nice excuses for battling the tank
strong forum
You get scaled to 392
stable valve
probs 50-60s for both avatar and SW (if running the wall) in prepatch yeah?
strong forum
probs 50-60s for both avatar and SW (if running the wall) in prepatch yeah?
Avatar CD is ~37sec on beta
Which is more than on retail
stable valve
then 2 min last stand w/ bolster and unnerving focus conduit and 2 SW charges w/ UW
could probs at least get first avatar for near a minute straight yeah?
oblique garnet
enha is balanced
oblique garnet
thats st
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel now what
yeah there should be
it should tp you to orgrimmar anyways
we need @patent osprey to wake up so we have a good tank for beta m+
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel aight im back so you still wanna do some beta m+ or?
oblique garnet
i have no clue
oblique garnet
yeah ok ww seems kinda retarded
I thought it would lose some st when its cleaving
but i guess not
enha would be so much better to play without 250 ping
minor helm
sick sentinel
anybody planning to not main prot warrior
curious what others are playing, all options are open to me
urban portal
Yeah I’m maining garen for the next couple patches
sick sentinel
so arms warrior?
blazing condor
paladin
blazing condor
well idk garen is some weird paladin/warrior hybrid
sick sentinel
there was one time he was good in jungle
urban portal
Well he hates magic
sick sentinel
scaled to well with regen
sick sentinel
extremely scary a giant melee character that runs at you, and then regens a shit load of HP
sick sentinel
the match i remember, i would kill a guy, and someone else was comin for me, ran away, few seconds later im basically full hp again, snowball
he has like a second wind thing going on
crimson dagger
obviously that's describing willump & nunu
blazing condor
to craft a 291 leggo from scratch you need all mats right?
soul ash, cinders and flux?
strong forum
ye
sick sentinel
ooohh.... snow ball as in pull way ahead. rather than the ability, nunu does have that ability
sick sentinel
Thank you for taking the time to reach out with these details! This behavior with the Battle.net Desktop App typically indicates that the installation is being corrupted by an underlying issue with the Windows installation.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/blizzard/t/battlenet-desktop-app-installation-issues-blzbntagt000008fc/16897/2
seems relevant here
spiral compass
ya i’ve tried every solution opened a ticked 3 days ago waiting for a response just seeing if someone might have had a solution here by luck