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median latch
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Normally not what I would use

urban portal
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if you need them?

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i think you should be using weave

vocal bison
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Well I mean alar does damage to everyone, including allies in melee right? Probably not ideal to accidentally kill someone else if it's for M+. Don't think warped fate does that.

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And I only point that out because I've actually done that in DoS before, hehe...

cinder nova
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That's why I call my melee to move close for intervene

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Ideally, though, you shouldn't need alar.

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Just use aegis as a pure def trinky

cobalt seal
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I think rn there is like 0? reasons to run a cheat on pwar

balmy canyon
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I can't think of any mechanics in m+ this season that hit hard enough and can't be mitigated with proper play to warrant losing a trinket slot to run a cheat death

rough needle
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u play cheat death bc it lets you make a mistake, you might only see a key 1-2 times a season, you typically don't need tank damage for most keys

ionic fern
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Idk

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Don't make mistakes.

urban portal
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If you are playing a key you see once or twice a season

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You are too good to be asking whether you need cheat

blazing condor
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if people wanna use cheat thats fine as long as they realise its sub optimal

urban portal
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You need to do a lot of damage as a tank to finish in time

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And it’s not like we are running pure dam trinkets

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Rdm/ows are still very strong defensively

raven hatch
# rough needle u play cheat death bc it lets you make a mistake, you might only see a key 1-2 t...

actually, I think you play cheat death if you're pugging. it's not about you making mistakes its about your team imo, if they miss a kick on an enraged waterbolt from a fortified 27+ it's going to chunk you, and if you're full health with all mitigation up yeah you can take one, but if you get hit with a bunch of enraged melee at the same time (providing it's under the 100k cheat death cap) it saves you from bad teammates (or good teammates that made a mistake)

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but unfortunately i've not got my hands on a cheat death trinket yet pogchamp xD

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i've got 2.9 without one so far so it's definitely not necessary to get a decent rio in pugs, but I do want it just to try it

urban portal
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You pugging 27s you are kinda a chad

raven hatch
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haha thanks

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wtb team

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I do think i'm starting to hit a limit with pugging though, for starters everyone wants a blood dk and i'm not sure I can convince people to come voice atm

modern brook
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Cheat death trinkets? Stinky

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Either your need the cheat death for specific fights or cheeses, and yoy can't afford to have it proccd by some moron not playing the game and missing a kick

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Or you don't need the trinket and it's a layer of protection against the American education system

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Either way, take a dps trinket

raven hatch
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cheat death can also save you on medivh in high tyrannical uppers, i've watched tatt die 4 times on medivh, one cheat death, one res, 2nd cheat death, then he dies again xD and tbf he ripped the key there (not necessarily his fault) but it was funny to think he got 2 extra deaths with the cheat death trinket

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i play aegis and stun grenade, feels pretty good

modern brook
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Stun grenade has no mainstat right?

raven hatch
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correct

modern brook
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I hate it 😠

raven hatch
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yeah i don't like that part either

modern brook
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Lol

raven hatch
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but its cd lines up with banner

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so you pump when you go to refresh banner

modern brook
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Yah I won't rag on nade. O think there are other better options, ows comes to mind. But like it works

raven hatch
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OWS yeah for sure, but I don't have that yet (been slacking on raiding)

blazing condor
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i have a 246 one 😎

mighty valley
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If you work hard and say your prayers it might grow to 247

cobalt seal
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does that mean pigs can fly?

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Maybe if said streamer didn't have 50% banner uptime he would have more rage... and maybe not die

raven hatch
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not sure i understand your point

jagged pier
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his point is if he played better he likely wouldnt have died

cobalt seal
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just because a cheat procced

raven hatch
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yeah but you can actively use the cheat death in that scenario

cobalt seal
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the cheat is 100% for mana

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not medivh

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if you told me, I run cheat for mana

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I would agree with you

raven hatch
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i've not had the pleasure of fighting mana on high tyran to be fair

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always fail at medivh

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or sometimes curator

cobalt seal
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medivh isn't that hard on tanks

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it's hard on everyone

raven hatch
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I agree with that, it's much harder for everyone than it is for me

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but I do need missiles kicked if I don't have wall

cobalt seal
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well

raven hatch
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and it can be awkard to maintain rage without any autoattacks

cobalt seal
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that requires pugs at 27

raven hatch
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and positioning

cobalt seal
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to prob know what a kick rotation is

raven hatch
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yeah i'm only speaking from experience in pugs, I don't have a team

cobalt seal
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someone in this discord

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is mainting rage

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without ever tanking?

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and his banner barely drops

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unless he gets to sleep back to back

raven hatch
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😄 this feels like an inside joke i'm not part of

cobalt seal
raven hatch
cobalt seal
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you dont need to understand the joke to know my point

raven hatch
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is your point tattman is bad at banner uptime? he usually sits like 80-90% i think right? I'm about the same on good runs

cobalt seal
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the rage from getting hit isn't the make or break of banner/defensive stuff

cobalt seal
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he is like 50-60

raven hatch
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i can really depend on the run though

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like if you have a clean run with no deaths or major mistakes your banner uptime is usually really high

cobalt seal
raven hatch
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sounds like you have a bit of an issue with tatt

cobalt seal
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not really

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just the truth lol

lime urchin
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Codex?

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🍿

cobalt seal
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I barely even watch him, after him defending a trinket that shall not be named a while back

raven hatch
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hahaha

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well I might have to agree that codex isn't the play for prot warrior, however I do like tatt's stream and his routes/playstyle, i've learnt alot from him

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does Goatsface stream?

cobalt seal
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I only watch 1 pwar, usually when I go to eat to see if they are depleting keys on my back

raven hatch
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who's that?

cobalt seal
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pwar tc himself

raven hatch
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are you a prot warrior?

cobalt seal
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nope

raven hatch
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filthy dps?

cobalt seal
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cringe

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no

jagged pier
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hes worse than a bdk

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but that doesnt mean he doesnt know what hes walking about when it comes to prot tbh

cobalt seal
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at least I need to pretend to push buttons to not die

jagged pier
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we all know its based on rng for u

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let not lie

cobalt seal
jagged pier
drifting pecan
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hi guys, i wanted to know if by chance there is any guide or video that illustrates the basics of how to use warrior protection excluding all shadowlands systems but which is based more on the core of the class. since i have never tanked and in dragonflight i will want to do it i was wondering if there was any video for initiates like me, thanks for reading all the papyrus.

strong forum
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MarcelianOnline has made a good and basic prot warrior guide a while back

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Not focusing too much on specifics, as you mentioned, just some core mechanics

drifting pecan
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Thank you man gonna check it out right now 🙏

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I’m so worried cause all keeps telling me that warrior is so difficult to master and so easy to fail

strong forum
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In shadowlands yes, in Dragonflight it gets massively easier

cobalt seal
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press buttons - win

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warriors just presses more buttons than the rest rn

silk terrace
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guys, i'm trying prot warrior for a change, shield block has priority over ignore pain for survivability?

strong forum
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Yes

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Shieldblock is uncapped mitigation on blockable attacks and abilities for 6 seconds, ignore pain is a finite 30k absorb

sick sentinel
warm plinth
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I posted in the wrong channel XD

sick sentinel
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seems like the buffed the hell out of LFD xp

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i do 1 dungeon at lvl 51 2 3 4 6 7 and get 1 lvl, last time with the 50% xp it was taking like, 2-3 dungeons per

drifting fable
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last time the buff didnt go from 50-59

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it was only 10-50 iirc

sick sentinel
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1 to 59, effectively 60, cuz you cant get xp at 60 retail

wild hemlock
ionic fern
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Je, @wild rampart an Co are good boyes.

wild rampart
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❤️ learned all the prot shenanigans from @ionic fern @strong forum @jagged pier and the rest of the chadz

blazing condor
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xeos x3

chilly brook
modern brook
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Nah he sucks

chilly brook
mighty valley
modern brook
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The crown is for sucking so much

blazing condor
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@chilly brook peepoBlush

@modern brook sadgers

modern brook
strong forum
wary gull
amber ravine
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Whats a decent uptime on banner?

mighty valley
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100%

amber ravine
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lol

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I wish

mighty valley
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you should be able to keep it up forever so long as you're fighting

pallid quiver
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At bare minimum, 100% uptime in combat, which is the most important part, which is achievable in every dungeon with any set of affixes or anything you can think of

strong forum
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Aim to keep up banner at all times during combat

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It's 40%surv and 30% dmg gain

dusty forge
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Is the general m+ build a strict recommendation? Or, is it just a suggestion that we can adjust a bit to our liking?

strong forum
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No adjusting besides bounding stride and crackling thunder

pallid quiver
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Generally, the only swappable parts are the Bounding Stride tier and whether you want Booming Voice or BSC, though the quality of life leads BV to be recommended more

dusty forge
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Like, are bleeds and healing from deep wounds more significant than adding 30% of our damage to ignore pain? Or, should we actually focus on bleeds in the class and spec tree?

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Oh wow

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So strict

strong forum
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You're thinking df

dusty forge
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Yeah

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I am

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Sorry

strong forum
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In SL there is bar to none variety

dusty forge
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Right

strong forum
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Df tree I still need to work on

dusty forge
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I should've started with that lol

strong forum
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But im on Oktoberfest rn so uh m yeah

pallid quiver
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there's a channel for DF Prot, so instant assumption here was current SL

dusty forge
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Oh. I thought that i was in it

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Sorry, guys! lol

left temple
strong forum
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Grabbing 2

left temple
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ok lit

pallid quiver
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inb4 dragonflight talents get massively reworked as a part of their "small steps" so nome has to suffer again

strong forum
left temple
rocky kraken
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@strong forumwhats your avg apm in a dung

strong forum
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In m+ it's like 87-90

rocky kraken
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ty

hazy bronze
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This mans is posting picture of ALCOHOL. He's supposed to be a beacon of purity and shining example

strong forum
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DW im sober

minor helm
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Nome u gotta chug em

strong forum
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Nah

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That's 1L each

sick sentinel
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the time i went mental trying to farm theatre 2H axe

pallid quiver
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just chug them so hard they go straight through the entire system in one go

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just shoop straight through both intestines and out the body they go

lusty tiger
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Nome will come in here every time he’s gotta piss

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Don’t forget the water nome

timid thicket
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Been trying to get lower Kara 20, the last one I need. Any tips for the attumen trash? Even if I do small pulls i always seem to die at least once with 295 ilvl. Should I go in a corner and try to sidestep the charges? My last 4 runs died in there cause people leave as soon as the tank dies once

lusty tiger
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Haha welcome to lower Kara

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Not too far in a corner because you need room to sidestep when you have a few horses

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Also I believe their “neigh” signifies the beginning of a charge cast

timid thicket
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Can't decide if I hate it more on tyran or fort. Last week I failed upper about 5 times and one shot it today at least

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Probably didn't help that i only tanked brain dead wrath HCs and naxx the last week

modern brook
swift shell
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hey guys im a guardian main trying out prot. are you guys using ravager as snap threat when starting a pull or like using it right after spear of bastion for alot of dps?

timid thicket
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The meta is Necrolord for permanent banner uptime

swift shell
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all the guides say kyrian and its cuz i was watching this prot warr do a 20JY and he was kyrian. he was doing a crap ton of damage so i got inspired to try it on my warr lol

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wtf mandela effect i just checked again. thought it said kyrian. guess it was necrolord

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im so dumb lol. thought using both spear and ravager felt clunky

timid thicket
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I mean you can play it. But Necro banner is strong and also kinda fun to make sure you keep it up

swift shell
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ty. i had to talk this thru to realize my follies

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lmao

mellow bridge
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but to answer your question

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use ravager early on

swift shell
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thank you

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so im not really getting how you can have perma conquerors banner. there's nothing here about spending rage extending it's duration

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in the video, the guy is just dumping rage ferociously and the banner isbeing extended but nowhere in the tooltip does it say it works like that

lofty widget
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glory legendary effect

swift shell
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not using my fucking brain

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thanks

sick sentinel
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im sitting here looking at my DH and wondering if i want to even lvl him

grave wedge
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trouble deciding between Rdm/ Shard for dinar i feel like rdm is better?

drifting fable
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rdm is generally going to have more use than shard will across the majority of key levels

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shard starts to get better at really high keys, where rdm is just solid always

grave wedge
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i hope this isnt a dumb question but how much would ilvl play into those bieng the best choice. it would be sitting at 278 for a bit but i have a 298 Rgd

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it would replace the rgd

drifting fable
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remind me what rgd is again? but ilvl wont matter too much

grave wedge
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mechagon wheel 20 str

drifting fable
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trinkets the effect is usually the important thing

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ah

grave wedge
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im sure the effect is better than 26 str

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but id rather ask lol

drifting fable
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well thats gonna be up to you / can sim it. the rdm will be the tankier option, but id bet the other one does more dps, so its more what you are looking for in content

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altho some people would just say drop the motorcycle so you cant ninja pull with it keks

grave wedge
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okay cool looking for more tankyness

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was only worried about the str los

drifting fable
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honestly between a normal RDM and the motorcycle i wouldnt be able to give you a straight answer which is better, if you get to a heroic RDM that’s obviously an easier choice

grave wedge
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got rdm should i get the shard"? how high keys is it really better in

drifting fable
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like 30s

grave wedge
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okay cool im looking to do maybe some low 20s at most

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is the goal but who the hell knows

drifting fable
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i would say you will never need shard at that level

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but if you have the dinar go for it

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nothing like being able to test both yourself

grave wedge
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cool cause id love to use my last dinar ona gavel

drifting fable
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ahah feel that

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RDM is a good pick then. cant go wrong

grave wedge
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tank friend also has shard so he can pass if we get lucky but sounds like im set then

finite oracle
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is there a haste cap for prot warriors?

drifting fable
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youll start getting bad DRs after 40%, but more haste also goes hand in hand with the seasonal affix

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generally tho 40% is a good cutoff if you need a number

urban portal
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bad is in quotes

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you get 10% less haste after

drifting fable
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bad enough to generally not want it imo

urban portal
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yea

drifting fable
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some dps push past it but it all depednds

strong forum
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Well, going from 30% haste to 40% haste

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You only lose 33 haste

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That's 2 sockets

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That's still well worth to push through if you gear is set up like that

mighty valley
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you'd have to go pretty far out of your way to get really hurt by haste DR

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still probably fine to gem for something else above 40%

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it's all small beans at that point

sick sentinel
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"Necrotic was originally intended to be an affix that challenges tanks, but it’s become increasingly apparent that routing responsibilities already place tremendous pressure on tank players in Mythic+, so we’d like to try giving this affix a vacation."

agile pumice
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I'm just glad it's gone cause all the tanks disappear on necrotic week

sick sentinel
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can you really blame them?

agile pumice
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Maybe before it got nerfed 3 times

sick sentinel
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50 stacks in a pug still results in >tank dies >healer dies> wipe > angry dps leaves key

cinder storm
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Because any tank/heal mechanic is a push week, but when its a dps mechanic its vacation time, but don't tell em that every affix is a dps affix or else they will all disappear

lament musk
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Huh

hazy bronze
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? Every affix is a healer affix

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Except bolstering. Remove that

lament musk
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Don't really view anything as tank/heal/dps affixes. If it slows you down too much it's not a push week

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Sanguine bolstering inspiring necrotic are all crap for timing high keys

cinder storm
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Explosives - anyone can kill them but people tend to think its a healers job
Raging - Either focus prio targets or dps should help with slows/ccs/soothes
Bursting - Kill everything at the same time
Necrotic - help your tank with slows
Grievous - use defensives/health pots

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Unless you are doing like 30s-32s, you can do 26s-28s virtually every week

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Bolstering -kill everything at the same time, use tab to swap

sick sentinel
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BFA pre nerf bolster

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never ever again will i play with that type of bolster enabled

lament musk
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Even now bolster tends to slow down a run by a lot. Can't always chain pull when you want to, and stopping aoe costs time

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I've done some 30s on bad weeks, it's playable but way harder for sure

sick sentinel
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8.0 and probably 8.1, it was, even none elites, like those dock guys in siege, or the water droplets in shrine

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that shit back then used to be permanent

strong forum
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Bolster isn't hard perse, but it just adds alot of time to your key

cinder storm
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Sure enough, but most of the dps player base dont play around affixes, they see an add and they go pew pew

strong forum
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Lots of additional health to chew through

sick sentinel
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its a big fuck you mechanic

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is the problem

lament musk
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Yup, even if you play bolster well it's going to slow you down

strong forum
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The ultimate "halt stop nah you gotta slow it down" affix

cinder storm
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So player perception on top of the affix design makes it harder to find people even on those weeks to play with

sick sentinel
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its not as scary now, it can be but there is no more tension about aggroing a second pack

cinder storm
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I'd take skittish over bolstering or shades ngl

strong forum
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Nah

lament musk
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Some affixes just aren't enjoyable or fun to play around, not all players will want to deal with that

strong forum
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I think all 3 SL affixes are way worse than others

lament musk
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Maybe not even capable, depending on what player group we're talking about

sick sentinel
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evryweek is skittish if the tank plays poorly

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the tornadoe one caused alot of headaches but most have adapted to it

cinder storm
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I wish they'd add things that are directly related to each player rather than the whole team, season 2 ice captain is a good affix - you speed will randomly reduce itself up to a crawl for 3 secs / if you dont move after 5s you will root yourself for 5s / if you move when you have X thing on you, you will get a dispellable dot on you

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Something like that

lament musk
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Storming is annoying and can cause wipes due to overlaps, but doesn't really slow you down, good affix for pushing

cursive prawn
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Tried to counter it with a bladestorm but was half a second late and started bladestorming in the air

lament musk
cursive prawn
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I've had a similar thing happen to me on Kujo

sick sentinel
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just ultimate form to delete it off the screen EZ

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thats something you can do btw

cursive prawn
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we're Arms

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saw Critcake posting here so I confused the channel

blazing condor
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:susge:

dawn canyon
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I hate storming

blazing condor
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weekly affix in florida

modern brook
cinder storm
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florida is a seasonal affix

sullen patio
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kind of a random question, but i have a fully geared fury warrior and 2 dinars left. Since i want to try prot in DF and also level as prot, i am wondering if i should use the dinars to get a 1-hander and a shield to be able to play prot early in DF. If i want to do that, is there any sword and shield i should go for, or can i just go for transmog, since the gear will be outdated fast anyways?

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and sorry, i was not sure if this is the right channel or the DF one lol

sick sentinel
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been leveling Hpriest in LFD out of nessecity to lvl 60

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its only lvl 52 or 53 atm

modern brook
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The one hander and shield ilvl will help sure but it's leveling gear so like who cares

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Unless you're getting timed by the second for your level8n

gritty swallow
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i finally maintained more than 60 cpm in a dungeon and my banner uptime was 75% we love the little things

oblique garnet
lusty grotto
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anyone know how to check what's agroing backup singers from way under opera on logs?

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i cant find the names of all mobs down there on MDT

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i know backup singer is one

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is spectral patron another one?

drifting needle
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From memory, yessir

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The uppercut gang

lusty grotto
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ok so

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flamestrike pulled them

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err flame patch

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so fire mage is a nono

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if you wanna do zulgy that is

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actually

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it was ignite

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ye olde ignite pulling random shit again

somber dragon
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do devastate casts count towards bron?

mighty valley
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haven't played with devastate or kyrian in a long long time, haha

somber dragon
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yeah, i'm running devastator now, it just feels weird still lol

mighty valley
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also yeah. i don't take fire mages to the trash past opera, the floors must be real thin

somber dragon
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and i was curious if it could be used to get more burly boi uptime lol

mighty valley
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once you get used to it you shouldn't have any empty GCDs where you want to press devastate anyway

somber dragon
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my main thing is that autoattack turns off sometimes

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so i'm learning to pay attention to that

mighty valley
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mashing like, any button should fix that

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unlike classic

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where it's sometimes worth macroing auto attack into other buttons haha

lusty grotto
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yeah

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that shouldnt happen if youre using spells

somber dragon
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ohhhh so even if it's on cd, hitting SS will do it?

lusty grotto
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unless there's an option to turn it off

somber dragon
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i think it happens if i don't target swap before something dies, and everything is on cd

mighty valley
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it's legit something i haven't thought about in years and years, so however they have it set up by default, it seems to work for me

lusty grotto
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you still hit whatever's alive... so it shouldnt toggle auto attack off

mighty valley
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and at worst, right click

somber dragon
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thanks, i'm slay, i've been sent here to be the village idiot for DF 😅

lusty grotto
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are you calling us village idiots?

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what do you mean you people?

mighty valley
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nim if we were village idiots they wouldn't need to send one

lusty grotto
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true and real

mighty valley
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i don't know if they teach reading comprehension at beef ravioli school

lusty grotto
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just the basics

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i know some letters like

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a and x

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thats about it

chrome falcon
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dude does 0 damage

sick sentinel
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nomer dopple ganger in LFD

halcyon pasture
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is reprisal in Dragon flight?

chrome falcon
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no

sick sentinel
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this is the closest we have far as i know

strong forum
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It's reprisal but comes without the minimum range requirement and is only every 45sec

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And currently quite bugged

chrome falcon
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so basically, no

strong forum
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Depends what you define by reprisal, I define it by getting sb+revenge+rage from a charge

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So for me, reprisal still exists

undone verge
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311 weap would be the best ST dmg boost right?

strong forum
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Yes

undone verge
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k

lusty grotto
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best any boost really

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aoe as well

mortal brook
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@stuck sedge HAPPY BIRTHDAY

somber dragon
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how do ya'll figure how big to pull when running "at ilvl" content with a pug healer/dps?

lusty grotto
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experience

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and routes

chrome falcon
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^

lusty grotto
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the dungeons this season dont offer a lot of varied "what to pull" questions

somber dragon
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my instinct is to pull as big as i can without the healer's mana bar moving.... but that's tiny damn pulls compared to groups i've been DPS in in similar content.

lusty grotto
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what level key are you doing?

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or are you asking about non m+ dungeons?

chrome falcon
somber dragon
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i'm pretty fresh back from a big burnout/life bullshit hiatus, last time i really tanked was legion on a DK, and i played hyper casually through bfa and early SL.

lusty grotto
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yeah we dont worry about mana since infiltrators refill it

chrome falcon
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you should pretty much never pay attention to your healers mana it's just not relevant

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but especially this season

somber dragon
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so i'm only doing 0-2 keys and heroics and LFR at this point LOL.

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230ish ilvl

chrome falcon
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oh ok

lusty grotto
#

at that point just pull whatever

chrome falcon
#

yeah

lusty grotto
#

once you hit 11+ start making sure you know what to pull

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or 10 idk

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and then refine it with routes etc

stuck sedge
somber dragon
#

gotcha, i sometimes have a pocket healer that doesn't suck

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they had the same hiatus i did so it's just a gear thing, and they 99% pvp

lusty grotto
#

im not sure you can really judge healer's abilities at that point

chrome falcon
#

yeah

lusty grotto
#

whether they suck or not it doesnt matter, you're not at the level where it matters

chrome falcon
#

nothing at that level is really doing the kind of damage that requires competent healing

lusty grotto
#

yet

somber dragon
#

i mean, they'll throw a feline at me if i don't listen to them tell me verbally they need more mana, so groups with them ain't really the problem

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i just don't want to be "that tank" that nightmare ballads are written about

cinder storm
#

My pocket healer has had to heal on pugs under 18 more or as much as she does on a 25, experiences may vary

lusty grotto
#

no reason to worry about being that tank

cinder storm
#

So your healer might have different experiences as you two progress

lusty grotto
#

not trying to put you down but the point still stands

somber dragon
#

gotcha

lusty grotto
#

nobody ever remembers anything at that level of content

somber dragon
#

so i shouldn't be terrified of pugging and just go for it

chrome falcon
#

if you have any idea how to play the class, even with pisslow gear you can carry and kind of disaster pull at that level

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correct

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just go for it

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and if you fail horribly and fuck it

lusty grotto
#

yeah

chrome falcon
#

big deal who gives a shit

lusty grotto
#

you are in a good position to learn from your mistakes

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so take advantage of it

chrome falcon
#

i completely bombed the only +26 i tried this season

somber dragon
#

i have read all FAQs I can find, and i've done fine in heroics when dps didn't do stupid.

chrome falcon
#

just absolutely bricked it

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and i know i tilted that whole group

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but whatever i just left and logged off

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so just go for it

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and if you fail you chill for a bit and try again

cinder storm
#

Wait, not everyone, I started tanking in bfa bc as a frost mage, I only met one pwar on s1 who wouldn't move from pack, every other tank was mindlessly kiting, that dude made me want to tank ever since, so that others don't suffer what I suffered

chrome falcon
#

any time spent reading up on how to tank is almost certainly better spent actually tanking

lusty grotto
#

agreed

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100%

somber dragon
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well, i read at work when i couldn't tank

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so technically i got paid to learn to tank in theory

pallid quiver
#

The worst part on starting to tank is if your friends are having you play with people who, when you mess something up, will continue to strive to harass you outside the game for it, too

chrome falcon
#

now that

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i respect

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
#

it's why i don't play with my friends super often in wow, because i don't like their friends so i just pug instead

lusty grotto
#

well

chrome falcon
#

my workaround for that is to just be the best at any game i play with my friends

cinder storm
#

You have to tank adds and also tank 🐒 dps brain "opinions" past a certain key level people tend to be more respectful

lusty grotto
#

that's kind of a tangent but

chrome falcon
#

and be the toxic asshole

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and then as soon as they ask me to play fps

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i'm busy that night

lusty grotto
#

honestly there's a certain level of not giving a fuck that you need to apply

pallid quiver
#

i just simply don't play with them

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Like, the friend I know is cool, but the people they know I don't even like as people, and they're not good enough for me to want to hang around them in spite of that

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so i simply don't

lusty grotto
#

sometimes extremely toxic shit has some valid points in between the lines, its just a matter of not giving a shit and then analysing it

chrome falcon
#

yeah the thing people don't really like to admit is that if someone is being a toxic asshole

pallid quiver
#

unfortunately, a lot of the toxic shit they spew does not have that. Even if there is, by and large, I can (and have) learned more from talking with and listening to everyone in here

chrome falcon
#

there's honestly probably a greater than 50% chance you fucked up

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not that that justifies it

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but there's a lot of people who just respond to toxicity by confronting the toxicity instead of just being good enough to not get toxic'd at

lusty grotto
#

yup

pallid quiver
#

I'm also very good at analyzing my own mistakes, so I don't need someone saying some toxic shit, especially if the run actually went fine but could have some improvements

cinder storm
#

You do have to be a little toxic if you want to push high keys, most of the time is how you say things that matter the most

chrome falcon
#

yeah the important thing is being able to identify

lusty grotto
#

nobody is perfect honestly

chrome falcon
#

when the person flaming you

lusty grotto
#

you can say that you are very good at it

cinder storm
#

I always look at myself first then the others

chrome falcon
#

is just an absolute ungodly eldritch freak

lusty grotto
#

but you can't have that mindset

chrome falcon
#

and truly has no idea what they're talking about

pallid quiver
#

the worst thing is when people have no idea what they're talking about, but are still decent enough at the game

#

i do my best to dodge people like that like the plague

chrome falcon
#

i find that this ^ is very rarely the case

somber dragon
#

i tend to greet new dps (when i have my pocket healer) with utter silence until we're all in and healer is ready.... I then do a shout macro with "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!" and charge into the first pull.

lusty grotto
#

oh no 😦

#

i absolutely hate ability macros

somber dragon
#

lol

cinder storm
#

"ty for the key, byeeeh"

lusty grotto
#

im sorry its a pet peeve

pallid quiver
#

It depends on the breakpoint for decent; I don't expect Matta to run into those people often, but mid-tier players run into that shit a ton

somber dragon
#

it's not and ability

#

it's a one-time thing at the start

#

and only if my pocket heals is with me

chrome falcon
#

oh nah luerce

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trust me

#

every kind of idiot exists at every kind of content level

cinder storm
#

Only yell macro I use "I'm SR don't kick next"

chrome falcon
#

this is also true for your rank in any kind of competitve game

pallid quiver
#

Oh, I'm aware

#

I've dealt with these people in the fighting game community

lusty grotto
#

bruh listen, do you know how many times i say "WERE DOING ZULGY BEFORE DYING" and people just royally fuck up after opera and then go "that's why we die after opera"

somber dragon
#

just like management.... there is incredible stupidity at every level of it..... and the more possible levels, the exponentially greater the stupid can be.

chrome falcon
#

fighting game scrublords are a different level tbf

lusty grotto
#

and miss out on fucking stacks and hefty amount of %

pallid quiver
#

It's just the mid-level has the highest abundance, because they're able to mouthpiece opinions from better players and can get results they can see that blinds them to understanding

lusty grotto
#

just phase em out

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youre the tank

#

do what you feel is right

pallid quiver
somber dragon
#

i was leveling my mage for the venthyr cloth gear

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got into a trina scythe

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tank is like "ezpz lemme do gates"

lusty grotto
#

if someone says some random shit i try not to engage honestly

somber dragon
#

we reset on gates like 16 times

pallid quiver
#

My goals for the game's to enjoy myself, though, which is to push as high as I can without having a dedicated schedule or dealing with people attempting to shit on other people, so I just like

somber dragon
#

tried to explain several times how they work

pallid quiver
#

don't play with people like that on a regular basis

somber dragon
#

dude was like "i'm NF, this is my dungeon, shut up"

chrome falcon
#

which is obvious somewhat ironic

pallid quiver
#

I can just:
Build Gundam Models
Play fighting games
Clear up my RPG backlog
Play Splatoon/other FPS games
Work on actual work

Instead

cinder storm
#

I've experienced the opposite

cursive prawn
#

Bitching about fuckups depletes more keys than the fuckups themselves

pallid quiver
#

^^^

lusty grotto
#

luerce just learn about phasing it out

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its just text

#

just pay no attention to it

chrome falcon
#

extremely big true @cursive prawn

cinder storm
#

"if you got time to type you got time to dps"

pallid quiver
#

Like, it doesn't affect my mentality

#

i deal with it fine in pugs

#

i just don't care for people being assholes, so i won't continue associating with those people

#

I'll just look at my logs and move on with my day

cinder storm
#

No one should judge you with who and how you spend your time, we are not world first key pushers

pallid quiver
#

It's not worth me going, "I wanna push higher, so this guy who's telling me I'm a stupid dumbfuck because I tried seeing if we could pull one more group over Discord is someone I'm going to keep playing with"

lusty grotto
#

right

chrome falcon
#

oh lol yeah i mean

#

if they're talking direct shit over discord

#

that's like

#

unfathomable cringe

lusty grotto
#

right click mute

pallid quiver
#

yeah that's what i mean is things like that, and when people keep trying to talk shit like a day after or something

lusty grotto
#

😄

#

but yeah its fine not getting on disc with those people

pallid quiver
#

I just leave instead; it causes human drama to mute. There's better people to play with, like pretty much everyone in here,

#

or i can just like play another game

#

I don't have to play WoW like a lot of people think I do for whatever reason

chrome falcon
#

yeah if someone is actually going to come on discord and talk shit to my face

#

that's an instant dip

lusty grotto
#

well, they dont know they are muted unless you say something 🙂

chrome falcon
#

i mean it's a 5 man group

#

they're gonna figure it out pretty quick

pallid quiver
#

oh trust me, some people know they're muted considering they can't stop talking shit and demand interaction

#

and there's other people, so

lusty grotto
#

5 man group eh

chrome falcon
#

i've had 2 people in a 20 man raid group who basically never interact with each other figure out each had the other muted in like 30 mins

lusty grotto
#

well there's no synergy there so fuck it

pallid quiver
#

I just don't even want to enable people like that, since there's better ways of spending your time

chrome falcon
#

it's actually hilarious when person X talks over person Y without realising it because they're muted

cinder storm
#

You need good players and good, also encompasses having the right attitude to push with your team and play as a team

lusty grotto
#

just group with the bud you like and pug the rest xD

#

or if that bud wants to only group with them, fuck him too

#

replace with good pugs

cinder storm
#

This is the way

pallid quiver
#

ye that's what i do

#

i don't think i made that clear enough

lusty grotto
#

yeah it kinda feels like youre on the fence

#

ngl

#

since you keep repeating it

#

sorry if that's not the case

#

just my perception

pallid quiver
#

It's more that I don't want people to keep playing with shit people when there's so many other people they can play with and to not stress so much

lusty grotto
#

well you cant control others (and nobody can control you)

pallid quiver
#

I've seen enough of that in fighting game lands that people have ended up actually fighting other people

chrome falcon
#

yeah if you're playing with a group of people you don't like there are like 5 things you could do and the only one that you shouldn't do is "keep playing with them"

scenic path
lusty grotto
#

@mighty valley "hey guys no fire mages this time so we're gonna do zulgy pull"

#

we had an unholy dk

#

rip zulgy pull

mighty valley
#

Noooooooooo

#

Ok next time

#

Only prot warriors

lusty grotto
#

true

undone verge
frosty willow
#

What's the best fated trinket to buy for tanking survivability? Shard of Ann Aegis?

strong forum
#

Yes

charred ivy
#

i was cocidering get the splintered for an extra life xD but maybe thats a bad idea? i use Enforcerers stun grenade atm cause i also fury

charred ivy
#

xD

#

apparently there is ;o

mellow bridge
#

Don't use cheats

sick sentinel
#

is dbm cheating?

#

weak auras mdt?

mortal brook
#

Using a ui is cheating. AND ruins immersion smh

#

ControlZ gang

timid beacon
#

Based on what you all have seen so far in DF, do you the a warrior/Druid would be a good tank combo or would Warrior/DH or DK be better?

cobalt seal
#

You will be banned

#

If they find out

mortal brook
covert sentinel
#

what does BTM in dungeon q title stand for

strong forum
#

🤷

mortal brook
#

Break the meta

strong forum
#

Oh yeah makes sense

covert sentinel
#

ah

#

thx...but why does someone post his 17 for break the meta...is that like an invitation to inv me?

mortal brook
#

Means he will invite from the list of specs allowed

undone verge
#

Time for pwarrior to shine and crawl under our 13s and break the meta by doing checks list +17s which we’ve never been able to do before

#

Truely an amazing time

blazing condor
#

Love it when the community comes together to enable us like this

sick sentinel
#

i saw a whole bunch of pwars in LFD leveling, yesterday and past 3 months

undone verge
#

Dirty fotmers

sand drum
#

does RDM break CCs ? on huntsman shades ?

cobalt seal
#

Shouldnt

mortal brook
#

like holy shield, it will only do so if you have the dot on you from a succesful cast from the doggos. wont break initial cc but may prevent re-cc.

lusty salmon
#

hey guys just got back from taking a long break, but is it just how I am playing or is the gameplay loop for prot war's abit clunky atm? I am raged starved all the time and am waiting for thunder clap/shield slam to come back for several seconds at a time

#

lvl 53 btw

drifting fable
#

the additions of 4 piece tier, double legendary, and full conduit/soulbind access are fairy noticeable. there could be reasons beyond that for sure, but id at least hit max and have all the tools at your disposal before you dismiss the class

cobalt seal
#

Its lvl53

drifting fable
#

ps i can tell you, it’s generally not the class. but hit max

cobalt seal
#

He is missing the entire kit

drifting fable
#

thats not the entire kit

#

but you sure as hell shouldnt be making judgments on the class as a whole at 53

chilly brook
#

Shouldn’t be that rage starved

strong forum
#

Retail wow changes drastically at max level with gear

#

The leveling experience currently is nothing like endgame

#

In Dragonflight this will however change alot

lusty salmon
#

how do i generate more rage then

#

autos/shieldslam/thundnerclap/shout

strong forum
#

You don't

#

What are your talents

chilly brook
#

Charge weaving

faint wadi
#

There is this rage generation from bleed Talent but I don't know that is really good.

strong forum
#

That's in dragonflight

chilly brook
#

And it is good

#

Really good

faint wadi
#

Oh okay

sonic crag
#

One of our conduits makes rage gained during Last Stand significantly increased. Like others said, level to max. Get 4 piece and double legendary bonuses. Then set your conduits. It's a button smash but not difficult to grasp.

chrome falcon
#

Gives you shield slam procs

sick sentinel
#

i like playing healer leveling LFD, its about 5 apm

lusty grotto
#

@mighty valley thunderclap is also pulling from under the floor 😦

#

cant thunderclap near the door to stage, apparently that's the danger area

#

uppercut gang is always the first to get aggroed

#

i.e. the ones just south of door frame (and on bottom floor)

mighty valley
#

Ugh

#

But going further into the room also makes you likely to pull random shit

#

Nightmare room

#

Just deathskip and do trash elsewhere imo

lusty grotto
#

can just pull in to the stage's back

#

just gotta make sure nobody goes into door or dps mobs at it

#

such a ridiculous bug, smh blizzard

#

i really hate not doing it because it gives you so much %

#

instantly tilts me

#

actually it wasnt tclaap

#

it was divine storming from a ret pally at the door

#

does divine storm still send that dumb tornado where they're facing?

mighty valley
#

building 2022 m+ content on 2006 level design has its downsides

lusty grotto
#

yeah that's gonna suck on DF

#

if there are issues like these on older dungeons

mortal brook
#

if i can get some tech to pull some trash during fish boss in jade serpent, sign me up

sick sentinel
#

good learning experience for devs and players alike

lusty grotto
#

well i mean like for later seasons

#

unless theres some snap shit that we dont know about there

#

which is good 🙂

#

i suppose theres 2 sides to it right?

#

grimrail has the double infil through the wall thing

#

which is a positive honestly

#

well i dont think anyone disagrees with that one

#

even if shrouded weren't a thing you would really have to try to pull those

pallid quiver
#

The only disagreement I have is that it's not something that's obvious to a first-timer and has no way to encourage someone to try and discover that outside of people specifically looking to bust things. I like the alternative routing, but I also like things being intuitive, so my feelings on that are complex

lusty grotto
#

thats true

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

:\

#

them shitters hurt

#

esp when people cant even soothe enrages

warm plinth
#

Shiv is a global man

undone verge
#

Shiv is the only reason the rogue is in the group

lusty grotto
#

rogues that shiv are gods amongst men

#

ragnaros/quelthalas hunters that dont even have soothe in their bars though...

sick sentinel
#

there, priest is to 60 now, still got DH druid, monk hunter to lvl 40/50 >> 60 time for DF

gilded tendonBOT
#

🧦

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

yeah no doubt

modern brook
#

Smh

#

In s1 everyone was suckin off gouge and now we suddenly care about global economy

mighty valley
#

suckin off gouge

lusty grotto
#

gouge THIS

lusty tiger
sick sentinel
lament musk
#

Nvidia's 4000 series is overpriced on purpose pretty much. Lots of 3000 series stock which is decent value now

sick sentinel
#

i still bought new even with used 30 series going way down in price

lament musk
#

Only the 4090 makes sense price wise, but not many people has that kinda money to spend on a gpu

sick sentinel
#

cuz, if you buy retail, you get a tracking number with shipping and free returns...

#

you buy on ebay, you can get a literal brick, carved out like shape of 4090 and ah too bad, guess you got screwed

strong forum
#

I can stick with my 3080ti for a few years

#

Going for the 4k series is just a waste

lament musk
#

I have a 3080 in a custom loop. Got it for msrp a couple of weeks after it was released

sick sentinel
#

i just don't have a 240hz 1440p or 4k 120 hz monitor to make the 3080+++++ worth it for me

lament musk
strong forum
#

Lucky you

#

I bought 3080 on msrp, didn't receive it for 9 months, cancelled order and bought overpriced 3080ti cuz it was in stock

#

I've been had

sick sentinel
#
  • then i'd probably also want a platinum or titanium version of the PSU i'm ordering now anyways and at like 850 or 1000w's and so thats like 500 bucks (canada) for a power supply titanium 1000w
lament musk
#

I have an 850w psu, the thought of having to go 1000+ in the future is scary

strong forum
#

I went all in an got a 1300w right off the bat

jagged pier
#

i bought a 1.2k one to future proof

topaz field
#

@sick sentinel americans know W? wtf i thought u had a special unit for it too

lament musk
#

I think sales will prolly just tank a lot this gen, people don't have money to spend atm

mortal brook
#

Watt are you talking about, thats the standard unit

sick sentinel
#

400 for a 1000w titanium unit.... + taxes.... yeah, probably 500 lol... tehre is a unit or 2 that is 17% off for 340 canada, so thats a bit more reasonable. i went with RMX 750w gold 2021 version

topaz field
#

@mortal brook oh yea because you are using all SI units xD

strong forum
#

I paid like 190 for my 1300w

sick sentinel
#

like W as in watts? yeah our lightbulbs for kitchen are listed as "80w 100w 110w"

lament musk
#

190 for 1300w is pretty good

ebon geyser
#

Anyone knows if u can do balance of power in a day for artifact appearances

strong forum
#

Ya and its not a cheap brand either

sick sentinel
#

ur also payingin some kind of eurpean currency

#

probably euros or whatever germany has these days

mortal brook
topaz field
#

we call them euro dollars

ebon geyser
mortal brook
#

Balance of power will take at least 3 weeks cuz raid lockouts

sick sentinel
#

150 euro = ~~~ 200 canada

topaz field
#

euro is going downhill like bdk in DF

ebon geyser
#

Ty though

sick sentinel
#

1300w is probably over kill though

#

i'd just rather go to a reputable brand, and buy just over what is said on the part im trying to install on that box

#

rather than buy a massively wattage psu from a lesser known

strong forum
#

Who says it's from a bad brand

sick sentinel
#

no, i just am dubious of how you got an A tier new psu for low price is all

topaz field
#

i dont think u will find a single psu thats not made in china

#

the big psu sellers will also have several partners who produce it for them which means even the "same" psu can be of different quality

sick sentinel
#

the ones im getting is made with japanese parts i've heard, and is supposed to be better, i don't really know, i just know that it listed the psu i have installed as B tier 2018 model while one i've ordered is A tier 2021

#

choice is logical for me.

strong forum
topaz field
#

every japanese computer brand gives their work to foxxcon who exploit ppl in china to make it cheap

ionic fern
#

Did we evolve from WoW tier lists into PSU tier lists?

#

Wild.

sick sentinel
#

we didn't start the fire, jfk blow away, what else do i have to say?

ionic fern
#

Never change Yogi, never change.

sick sentinel
#

long as there is a fuel source, there will be fire

ionic fern
#

What if there is a fuel source but no oxygen?

sick sentinel
#

then somebodies did a really good job of hiding it

#

cuz, if someone knew what it was and where it was, they'd go unearth it and use it

blazing condor
#

PSU more like Prot SUcks lol

sick sentinel
#

same goes for cpus and gpu's you can type in google "2070 vs 3070" and the first link will typically be "user benchmark" which sometimes when your comparing gpu's offers a YT video, and it wasn't what it is today, but there was certainly always a "meta" for building pc's depending on the time and person.

#

Think of it like simulating your DPS through raidbots.

modern brook
brittle owl
#

for more industrial process tips subscribe to my onlywrench

sick sentinel
#

🤓

grave wedge
#

when you spamming low junkyards for the ring and you get the healing one. So you healer dips and you make him come to oribos to recieve his bis

#

i swear if these dungeons come back for 10.4

wind oak
#

werent the dungeon mostly datamined ?

#

so we know wich one we will have for DF

grave wedge
#

Possibly i didnt know they have the other season figured out already. Mechagon has two set rings that bis for everyone so its an easy way to make top end players run dungeons.

mortal brook
#

We have the s1 list yes

#

Not the rest

wind oak
#

i'm pretty sure we saw more dungeon that were tagged for possible future season

mortal brook
#

Pretty sure they just swept through and tagged all mop and after but sure

wind oak
#

yeah was something like that

grave wedge
#

mechagon is just an easy pair to throw in just like kara. i think we got these two again because they were already stones. im just hoping they dont comeback

wind oak
#

at least mechagon tuning wasnt dogshit

#

but farming those ring

#

fuck that

chrome falcon
#

doing my keys for break the meta today

#

one of my dps links a group and says "look at these fucking weirdos man how is this working"

#

and i didn't even have to check the link

#

to know who he was talking about

urban portal
#

was that

mellow bridge
#

lemme guess

#

5 tank weirdos

chrome falcon
#

yep

strong forum
#

very weird people indeed

minor helm
sick sentinel
#

+23 tyranical maraudon princess

foggy ocean
#

What is the max ignore pain can stack to?

lusty tiger
#

That party damage will be):

lusty tiger
foggy ocean
#

Awesome thanks! There really isn’t anyway to know that besides testing right? It doesn’t say that in any spell or passive.

mighty valley
#

Yeah, if you weren't around when they patched it it's not listed

#

afaik

sick sentinel
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was = some xyz% of AP, now = 30% maximum hp (this should include things like last stand and rallying cry far as i know)

strong forum
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that was in the bluepost when they announced the change

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but as per usual

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blizz doesnt include shit into game UI

sick sentinel
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i cant for the god damn life of me bring my self to start playing dh and druid

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monk i can kinda do, since i got monk to fated LFR lvl, so i can just cookie cutter that, buttons and all, but DH and druid i really got no idea man.

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mostly DH i don't understand, like, totally at all kinda thing, it just doesn't make sense to me yet

lusty tiger
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You drop circle and break your enemies spirit, then you slurp it up, repeat

sick sentinel
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hunter is EZ as shit, so he's gunna be dead last, litteral just shoot shit to death

cinder storm
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Guardian druid is just one button with a macro, 2 if you are feeling naughty

sick sentinel
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i was gunna play the "whats a macro" card but this says otherwise

mortal brook
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update

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also nice pawn, nerd

sick sentinel
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i cant even remember why its installed, but its just as meme, and thats not worst addon

hazy bronze
lusty grotto
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i love getting insta declined for lowers

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what a game

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"ok let me fish a lower with my key"

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20 gmbt -> no soothes or fishmancer kicks -> dying to enraged goliaths

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and a mage that lusted double infil + goliath for some fucking reason

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19 gmbt -> no soothes or fishmancer kicks -> can't skip guardians because "why didnt the rogue shroud" (as a druid)

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ok then

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i guess ill top dmg by reflecting enraged fishmancers and let jesus take the wheel

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or at least that has been my mantra so far

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meanwhile on not getting the actual key i need to increase rating...

toxic mesa
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hey i was doing junkyard today and i got an 8 second stun from the toxic lurkers twice in a row as a tank
the whole group just kept watching at me sitting 16 seconds in a stun
everyone in our group had an interrupt

halcyon dust
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Do you have a lower? I probably need a key on my rsham

lusty grotto
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i dont but i need a 20+ lower

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its my lowest fort key

timid beacon
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So worst thing about rolling a new prot pally and trying to hear it. Have 262 pretty much everywhere except my lovely 226 weapon and 226 shield. Sigh

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Time to start farming PVP I guess

pseudo edge
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i would say the worst thing is doing LFR to get a dinar token

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or pugging normal

warm plinth
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@ionic fern hi ily

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@lusty grotto hi cutie

ionic fern
lusty grotto
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heyo ghash

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still trying to get a lower 20+ this late

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😦

lusty grotto
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time to quit for the night

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👋

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have a good day you cuties @warm plinth and @ionic fern

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or night

warm plinth
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night dude

blazing condor
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was bolvar controlled by the jailer as well pre-helm break or was he a freed spirit

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for you lore frogs out there

sick sentinel
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uhh im half lore frog not really more like 1/3rd at best

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at which point

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yeah i'm not sure about that one, i didn't read too far into the DK crap

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https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2612467-Who-was-really-in-control-when-Bolvar-wore-the-helm this is what i found doing a quick google based on what you typed

blazing condor
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makes sense thanks yogi okayge

shadow haven
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would you guys say an item with same ilvl with a socket is always an upgrade regardless of stats?

cobalt seal
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You sim

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And you get the answer

strong forum
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Depends on which item slot, how many ilvl

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But yeah, just sim

mellow bridge
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i would not take a crit mast item over haste vers just cuz it has a socket

shadow haven
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But I was once told tanks don't sim! I've been living in a lie?

strong forum
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The overwhelming majority of your survival comes from playing well, not from your secondary stat spread

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So in general you can follow the rule of
ilvl > haste > vers >= crit > mastery defensively

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If you absolutely wanna go for "I need to believe I'm being tanky"

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For anything else, you can just sim

shadow haven
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btw

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I see a lot of guys on raider io use the 5% movement speed gem

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just a cutting edge m+ thing?

cobalt seal
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Do you need mov speed?

shadow haven
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i dont need anything

strong forum
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Mov speed helps with reprisal usage a bit yeah

cobalt seal
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Theres your answer

strong forum
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It's not mandatory or anything

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Just a small qol

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Since 1 or 2 gems isn't gonna make or break anything

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Just helps you gathering pulls here and there, and with charging

shadow haven
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nice

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btw look at this cheat, gutcrusher has 1 more secondary stat

strong forum
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Easily the socket

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Don't even need to sim

shadow haven
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but why does it have 1 more stat! its same ilvl

cobalt seal
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Because dif expansions

shadow haven
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some guy told me the other day to turn haste/mast gloves into the set which is crit/mast because you want some of the bad stats aswell

cobalt seal
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that guy is weird

shadow haven
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I ended up getting set gloves later on in vault, feels bad but hey its 304

modern brook
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So is the bear holding up Brazil and Germany nuclear weaponry or

cobalt seal
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it's 3 flags

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noobs

modern brook
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Is the bear one of them?

sick sentinel
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im gunna pay you 10 dollars to fuck off

shadow haven
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its portugal brazil and spain

cobalt seal
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Someone used their brain

shadow haven
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there is an odd one out!

cobalt seal
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Pog

cobalt seal
shadow haven
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brazil is not part of iberia and spain does not speak portugese

modern brook
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I just looked up the Portugal flag and it's not a bear

sick sentinel
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i already preorderd and got the 6 month

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am paid up

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i hate druid and dh so much, i can never last past orgimar

cobalt seal
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Unlucky then

strong forum
urban portal
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hey nome

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is codex good

strong forum
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Hah

urban portal
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dang

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thats a good answer

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i was gonna quote you out of context until df

weary python
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Hmm debating whether to take the 304 fusion hacker or 291 shoulders. Both slots currently are 262 for me but which one is worth taking?

cobalt seal
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the answer is obvious

minor helm
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Cro how come every time I open prot today ur pfp is more cursed

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SMH my head

weary python
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I just came back to the game, I haven't played since the beginning of s3 and picked warrior up for DF.

minor helm
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Weapon

strong forum
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304 weapon

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By a long shot

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You can get 298 shoulders from just playing m+ and having 2000 score

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You can't get 304 weapon other than from mythic raid and vault

minor helm
lone folio
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What tools do you guys use to find a new Guild to raid on?

lusty tiger
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The only retail raids And guilds I’ve joined are from knowing people that I would pvp with

lusty tiger
lone folio
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Do people look at logs for tanks?

lusty tiger
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?

lone folio
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Mostly from BFA and Castle

mellow bridge
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yes

lusty tiger
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Idk their relevancy is expiring

mellow bridge
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they do

lusty tiger
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But they would if that’s all you had yeah

mellow bridge
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what kinda guild are you looking for

lone folio
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A Heroic guild that might dip its toes in mythic

mellow bridge
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ah mh

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cant really speak much about guilds at that level

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try looking at wowprogress and warcraftlogs recruiting tools

lone folio
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I've tried logs without much success. Thanks for the tips

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Never raided mythic before, but I'm interested in starting. Don't wanna rush it though

lusty tiger
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There is also a lot of class discords with guild recruitment channels

minor helm
lone folio
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Nice! Thanks guys

modern brook
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In my experience, especially at that "heroic prog AotC" level of content, few people are actively looking for tanks, and usually someone just gets baited into doing it

tropic gorge
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Oh no please don't bait me into a tank spot

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I got baited into a dps slot for my current guild while they said they needed a tank lmao

modern brook
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yeah it turns out nerds are bad at group management

tropic gorge
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Some, not all lol

urban portal
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I have a mba

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It’s all good

modern brook
urban portal
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I do

modern brook
sick sentinel
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90/100+ fps in oribos with 3070 and new psu, life could be dream

lusty grotto
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welcome to the club

waxen orbit
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Yogi what are you doing playing this game with specs like that?!

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Go ultra-mod Fallout: New Vegas with the big boys

lusty grotto
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granted i have a ti

waxen orbit
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4k everything

lusty grotto
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and a 5900x

waxen orbit
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Actually you could 8k everything

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I'm 4king everything on New Vegas at 2070

lusty grotto
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and 32gb of ram lmao

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fuck 4k

waxen orbit
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Goddamn right

lusty grotto
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1400p is where its at

waxen orbit
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I be allocating 24gb of CPU to New Vegas through 4GB patch, tick extender, and ENB

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That's me btw

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WTB WoW 4k patch and ENBdev compatibility

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Shit would look fucking incredible

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But you'd have like 2 FPS in combat as soon as your WeakAuras triggered

lusty grotto
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as an fps player, fuck 4k

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until GPUs become powerful enough for shit to run at 1440p performance

waxen orbit
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Very true and real

lusty grotto
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or at 1080p performance i should say

waxen orbit
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I like 4k but only on New Vegas because I've modded it to allow for smooth 70 FPS at all times with 4k retextures squished onto a 2560x1440p monitor

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But that also took something like 20 hours of rewriting strings of text and shit

lusty grotto
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are you running DLDSR?

lusty tiger
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But can it run doom in 8k

waxen orbit
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Is that the super-sampling technique?

lusty grotto
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AI assisted higher than native resolution

waxen orbit
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Ohh shit THAT

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I've not used it since I attempted with Fallout 4 and crashed my game like 6 times with it enabled

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Probably just me being an idiot in setting it up, though

lusty grotto
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it is kind of super sampling

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i see

waxen orbit
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I’m gonna have to look into this actually

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I wanna see if I can properly apply it

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To like

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An older title

lusty grotto
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probably something not that old

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apparently it works okay-ish in elite dangerous and ffxiv

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horizon zero dawn as well

waxen orbit
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2010?

lusty grotto
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well i dont think it's a cutoff so long as the title is still supported

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it works on RDR2