cuz none of his tanks have played prot since then
#protection
strong forum
patent osprey
it's too broad to show a good picture
undone verge
Isn’t it usually just brew+meta tank
jagged pier
brew is always a meta tank for prog
just off how stagger works
and their tier is fucking giga busted makes it even better
steep condor
Is this macro correct?
#showtooltip /cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][@target,help,nodead]Intervene;[@mouseover,harm,nodead][]Charge
warm plinth
Is this macro correct?
`#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][@target,he...
Probably? Assuming you want it to be intervening helpful mouseover/target and charging harmful mouseover/target
The only thing that won't do is charge a mouseover if you have a friendly targeted
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead]Intervene;[@mouseover,harm,nodead]Charge;[@target,help,nodead]Intervene;Charge
would be a better way to do it to eliminate all scenarios
steep condor
thanks
trim bay
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead]Intervene;[@mouseover,harm,nodead]Cha...
that makes my icon go all funky. its red when intervene is off CD and im within range of a ally.
warm plinth
If you have no target or mouseover, then it makes sense that it would show that. Because Intervene is the first spell in the macro so it defaults to that tooltip/icon. Price you have to pay for weird macros like that lol
clear geyser
Do people usually play with different aggro colors for DPS and tanking? This is how plater profiles usually seems to be but it throws me off.
warm plinth
Can you elaborate? What do you mean by different aggro colors
small coral
so it’s DF prot gonna be the tits?
clear geyser
Can you elaborate? What do you mean by different aggro colors
sure! This is what I mean. Most plater profiles do it this way where red=aggro green=no aggro for dps but for tank its flipped. Is there a good reason for this or should I just make them the same for both specs
warm plinth
Oh. I think they do that because red = bad generally in people's minds
Since having aggro as DPS is bad, but not having aggro for tanks is bad
But you should make it whatever helps you identify the situation easier/more efficiently. If it's easier for your brain to have them the same, then make them the same
clear geyser
Thanks yea that makes sense I was jw if I was missing something
lusty grotto
@warm plinth
you wanna help me gear a rookie warrior that starts with a B and ends with an O?
xD
or are you blasting classic like COUGHLATECOUGH
excuse me
warm plinth
you wanna help me gear a rookie warrior that starts with a B and ends with an O?
B and ends with O? 🤔
I am not playing classic. I stick by my convictions unlike you sir 😂
lusty grotto
well
you know im in retail 🙂
tbf i have to do the DK bullshit for that mount
im scared
warm plinth
tbf i have to do the DK bullshit for that mount
I'm not sure I can convince myself to do it. Friend of mine just said he's been working on the interrogation quest for 45 mins and can't get it to proc 😂
Also I'm supposed to hear back on a possible position change at work that'll mean a lot to my availability
So I'm gonna say maybe for now
warm plinth
Bull is stll playing?
lusty grotto
urban portal
Only as arms
cosmic basin
Guys, what's the weapon we wanna be using from M+? Fusion Hacker or Tearing Sawtooth Blade?
lusty grotto
hacker is better for ST
sawtooth better for aoe
iirc
but honestly it's whichever is highest ilvl
i suppose if you have both available you can equip one or the other depending if its tyrannical or fortified week
im using hacker right now cause i havent had a single sawtooth drop
i could be wrong about this, so wait until someone else replies before you take it as a fact
the only fact there is that highest ilvl trumps everything else
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily
@potent anvil @shut summit hello friends, hope you are having a wonderful day 
warm plinth
I'm doing ok. Nearing the end of the workday
warm plinth
I was trying to get KSM on my druid this week but pugs were interesting to say the least 👀
ionic fern
Jeah, it's..horrible.
potent anvil
warm plinth
I joined a 16 lower kara, and I was top DPS when we got to opera, and then only I and the ret pal knew the defy gravity mechanic so half the group would die every time it went off 😂
ionic fern
Solid.
Thats been my experience with LK as well.
Regardless of which Opera it is..people still fail.
warm plinth
Yeah, Wikket is so easy now too. I figured we would at least make it to Moroes or Attumen lol
ionic fern
😂
Don't even get me started with the Horseman. Healers not dispelling..DPS'ers dying to Shared Suffering.
Ugh
Too many gimped keys
warm plinth
Yeah, you really start to see the disconnect in DPS knowledge when you go back to the dungeons that have more personal responsibility
warm plinth
Yikes!
ionic fern
Yeah, you really start to see the disconnect in DPS knowledge when you go back t...
Jeah, that's just horrid.
Give DPS as little to do as possible please.
warm plinth
There's a WA I found that's for Kel'Thuzad on classic. I was gonna try to fiddle with it and make it work for Shade
warm plinth
It does like kick calling
ionic fern
No,no.
We all know that DPS'ers don't have that bound.
warm plinth
😂
ionic fern
Just give me 5 interrupts and 0 to the DPS'ers.
warm plinth
We have a guy that runs with us fairly often and we asked him to dispel something once, and he was like I don't have dispel bound; it doesn't do DPS
warm plinth
WTB gag order
ionic fern
warm plinth
Oh well, I will have to do a few keys next week but should be able to get KSM. Need a weapon more than anything else anyway; my druid is still rocking a 278 from last season
and a 272 scale 😱
warm plinth
We're huge
warm plinth
Do you think you'll be more active in Dragonflight?
warm plinth
I am supposed to hear back about a promotion this week. If I get it, I should be able to raid next tier
ionic fern
Lets hope you get it then. 
warm plinth
Yeah, there's some stiff competition so I'm not getting my hopes up, but I have a good chance
ionic fern
I've skipped all the raids this expansion. 👀
Outside of doing some bosses for the Legendaries
ionic fern
Yeah, there's some stiff competition so I'm not getting my hopes up, but I have ...
NAa, you got this.
warm plinth
I did uh...heroic Nathria, heroic Sanctum, and like 3/10 Sanctum. Only did LFR this tier and last though
warm plinth
I did it really early so it was all the better people just doing it for dinar lol
Can't bring myself to go through it on alts though, especially after the stories I've heard from people
ionic fern
Jeah.
I wanted to play an alt.
But then i realised all the crap i gotta do..again.
So i just ditched the idea.
warm plinth
I'm playing 4 toons right now, but only did LFR on my rogue for EoN. The rest are just going with what they got
ionic fern
I'm only "playing" my warrior.
4 toons feels wayyy too much.
Well, i guess if you're not up-keeping them all it's fine.
warm plinth
Yeah I'm just doing like 1 key a week usually.
mortal brook
oh man that's like top 100 bear
warm plinth
I'm yuge
warm plinth
oh man that's like top 100 bear
😂 Sadly probably not far off
In reality though I'm not even top 100 druid tanks on my realm lol
ionic fern
Just go Alliance.
Everyone knows that the only ranking that matters is Realm/Faction.
See.
I'm Rank 9 Horde on my heavily Alliance dominated realm.
lusty grotto
<@95652243235143680> <@105027920459776000> hello friends, hope you are having a ...
wow smh
lusty grotto
im number #3 prot in my realm lmaooooo
lusty grotto
i see how it is
warm plinth
Oh shit, blasting
lusty grotto
getting ready for DF mwahi?
warm plinth
I honestly have no freakin idea what I'm going to play in DF
I just know it's not going to be evoker
ionic fern
Which i'm postponing to the last possible moment.
lusty grotto
wait when did you start doing keys though i thought you were upset about pugging
lusty grotto
btw
ionic fern
I really haven't.
lusty grotto
hmm
ionic fern
I'm doing like max 1-2 keys per week if any.
lusty grotto
for true
all i gotta say
never pick the hunter that's not surv
its 500% them every time
warm plinth
I'm starting to steer clear of fury warriors too
lusty grotto
BM/Marks i dont care if they have sylvanas bow, they ALWAYS fuck up
warm plinth
Had two in a row now that are doing like 7k overall
lusty grotto
hmm ive had good fury at least
warm plinth
I'd probably be 299 on my warrior if I had like 3 upgrades
still have 3 272 items
er, 278
What did he do
lusty grotto
and today just body pulls all around from these hunters
uhh
so you know the standard giant + double dread route right?
warm plinth
Mmhm
lusty grotto
going right etc
ok so we did that, then cleared to triple pull
this guy sat on lust
lock was angry as fuck
this was fort week mind you
then we skipped guardians, someones pot ran out and died so this hunter feigned and afked while heals rezzed us
stayed afk for 5 mins
warm plinth
Oh boy
lusty grotto
so we just started boss
guy died to beam i guess? and started saying I CANT RELEASE
warm plinth
No shit you can't release lol what
lusty grotto
no shit sherlock we're doing the boss lol
right
then he absolutely did not lust on pirates
lusted pirate dragon mommy or w/e
mortal brook
all part of the route 
warm plinth
I actually skipped the trash before chess in an upper, and the warrior didn't have invis pot but decided to die like way the fuck at the bottom
And the shaman was like I hate this skip
lusty grotto
bro
warm plinth
Like if everyone has a pot it's literally idiot proof
lusty grotto
oh yeah
warm plinth
There's just always that one guy that either doesn't have an invis pot or they think they can stealth past
lusty grotto
another hunter this week decided to pull dread there cause "sees invis"
i was like dude i just got past it
idk if they're used to failing shrouds or something lmao
warm plinth
Same warrior literally got to boss as fast as possible in p3 so he could kick it
warm plinth
At that point I was like...whatever. I had incarn so I just thrash spammed to victory
I think I was 3rd on dps in that run actually :kekw
mortal brook
🥉
lusty grotto
if only you were prot
warm plinth
I don't have gavel either, but don't tell Steve because he'll be disappointed
warm plinth
I don't have that either :pepehands
Oh that reminds me
That warrior had gavel
A heroic one
like 7k overall dps
mortal brook
good trinket
warm plinth
Seems okay
warm plinth
I just don't have the mental fortitude to do LFR enough to get anything else
mortal brook
that is fine
lusty grotto
that is a good name steve
mortal brook
not like any bears are getting m+ title anyways
mortal brook
ty
lusty grotto
its almost as good as Nimchipadin
warm plinth
Why aren't you getting title Steve
mortal brook
its almost as good as Nimchipadin
need a good naming convention yep
warm plinth
Yeah the discrepancy in meta vs non meta this season is actually nuts
lusty grotto
you mean the 20s title?
mortal brook
there is no 20s title. the shrouded hero .1% seasonal title
lusty grotto
i didnt even know that was a thing lmao
mortal brook
has been for 3 seasons now
lusty grotto
ah well
warm plinth
Except this season I think it's overall instead of separated between factions
warm plinth
Blood DK is fine though
Think last I checked, 105 BDKs were getting title
And that was before the last push week
lusty grotto
it was a good season to come back to for sure, on my end
some dungeons are still whack but at least the gearing process was very good
warm plinth
mm, I think the dinar thing can go to hell personally
Incentivizing raiding is no bueno from my perspective
lusty grotto
idk
i liked it
but that's only cause raiding loot is better, which is the wrong design logic
kinda is the root of the problem
warm plinth
Like if you raid then it's cool but if you don't then it's not, because these gimmick items are too strong
lusty grotto
yea
warm plinth
Like I simmed a normal gavel for my warrior against his 278 offhand and it's literally like 900 DPS in single target
warm plinth
I don't want to do LFR
jagged pier
gg 900 dps
lusty grotto
but what about people that dont like to raid
jagged pier
yes because LFR is really raiding
lusty grotto
that's kinda beside the point
warm plinth
It's still time that I have to spend doing something I don't want to do
lusty grotto
whether you consider it piss easy or not doesnt mean its not raiding
its a time investment that could have been spent doing the content you enjoy etc
oh whoops
warm plinth
Not sure you can say it's not raiding anyway since it's literally called Looking For RAID
wintry nymph
LFR Raiding is harder than mythic difficulty
lusty grotto
i totally typed that without reading what you said ghash lmao
mortal brook
ngl 900 dps is like 1 key level difference anyways
wintry nymph
but not because of the bosses
warm plinth
It might be easy raiding but it's still raiding
jagged pier
okay i like raiding
mortal brook
heckin whatever if you dont do it
warm plinth
That's also a problem
jagged pier
i know
lusty grotto
yeah
warm plinth
Good for you
lusty grotto
i dont think hes bitching about it, we're just talking
warm plinth
I do bitch about it, because Blizzard needs to know it's not what people like myself want
lusty grotto
ok i stand corrected
wintry nymph
warm plinth
heckin whatever if you dont do it
Yeah if I was pushing on that toon it'd be one thing but I'm doing like 15-22s, so my lack of gavel is not a deciding factor
mortal brook
warm plinth
It's also why I got EoN on my rogue because I do push on that toon
jagged pier
i know u do
pallid quiver
LFR Raiding is harder than mythic difficulty
Never forget LFR Garalon back in Pandaland
Legit hardest encounter in all of WoW's history
ionic fern
My brightest memory of LFR is when we failed the DPS check on Fallen Avatar and all the platforms broke.
blazing condor
oops
my only real memories of LFR was in dragon soul when it came out
otherwise ive just zzz'd through it
grave wedge
Do you guys think it's worth it to use it dinar on a shield. The highest I'm pushing this season is heroic is heroic so I planned on purchasing an upgrading the dread Lord shield with my 2nd dinar. I personally believe that the drop rate on any children this game is less than 1% based off of my own experience. I'm currently running the one off of Terragrue at 278. Is there something I should 100% save that 2nd dinar for.
lofty widget
Wouldnt waste a dinar on shield that Will cap at 298, but also season is over very soon so if you dont think youll drop one from m+ before then it could probably be good
And then use third dinar on rdm or something
grave wedge
Ty. Is trying to farm what I can for the most part. The goal is to be able to save the last dinar for the gavel so I can mess around in an off speck. I have friends who also like to tank. . I think maybe I'll give it one more week of shield farming before I break down and buy it
blazing condor
whats the plan for rest of SL
deep plume
Hi, am got my dinar today. I got a old soul from HC Sanctim. What do I get with the coin ?
cobalt seal
Rdm
blazing condor
way ahead of u
jagged pier
blazing condor
question is if i go back for DF
jagged pier
only u can answer that
blazing condor
😟
bronze locust
On Attumen, is there a particular reason the whole group doesn't soak shared suffering? There are a lot of accidental deaths and mess-ups
sick sentinel
i can see that boss being a huge wall on keys above a 20 tyranical
old sinew
On Attumen, is there a particular reason the whole group doesn't soak shared suf...
Because it does a lot of damage on a 26 Tyr kekw
blazing condor
hella damage to split
depends on what keys youre doing though
if youre doing <20 you can probably just soak it
bronze locust
Well coming from an overtimed +18, yeah. Soaking seemed easier, but there's been mistakes all over the fight until I got lucky evading it in every phase
Kind of demotivating to practice this boss for a 1h dungeon
So I can pretty reliably leap out for the first suffering attempt, one time he recast it before remounting, and my mouseover intervene wouldn't work for some reason
blazing condor
dont think you can leap it anymore (according to wowhead)
bronze locust
one time I was pretty late, my corpse went flying out of the ring, funny sight :p
blazing condor
cus he'll just keep casting it until it hits at least one player
bronze locust
Yeah aware of the recast and there's a priority between mortal strike and shared suffering
deft oar
if it's sub 20 just solo soak it all the time, it's shadow damage so ..
old sinew
cus he'll just keep casting it until it hits at least one player
Wrong. Phase lasts 20 seconds. If you avoid twice he will cancel the recast and mount midnight
blazing condor
didnt know. just read off of wowhead
old sinew
Wowhead writers don’t know what they’re talking about.
old sinew
They get their information from class discord trolls kekw
blazing condor
like me B)
cobalt seal
You know you can extend the phase right?
Right?
He switches back to horse when it gets healed to full
If you have healing debuff on him
The phase will last longer than 20
gloomy vortex
So what is the tactic for this above 20 then? We can’t soak alone
strong forum
You can have SW for every single shared suffering
It's close, but you can have it
And other than that, you can outrun it with banner and 1 or 2 speed gems
Or just heroic leap / intervene
strong forum
I wish 😦
old sinew
And other than that, you can outrun it with banner and 1 or 2 speed gems
indeed. bdk outrun it with death's advance kekw, you can outrun it with banner on top of intervene and leap
tropic gorge
Speaking of speed. My mage got 2 items with bonus stat of speed, and now has 12 percent
It's very noticeable. I think probably around 9 to 10 is where you may notice the increase
fervent dune
Hey beginner here. Whats a good uptime on Banner, Ignore Pain and Shield Block in dungeons?
https://imgur.com/dk9GuvE
The Top log for Gambit shows 77-80% but not sure if warcraftlogs shows a different number than details
ionic fern
Hey beginner here. Whats a good uptime on Banner, Ignore Pain and Shield Block i...
IP up-time is meaningless, treat it as a rage dump.
SB up-time in details is also meaningless, you want to get the effective up-time from logs. (Damage taken->Melees). Depending on talents/legendaries, aim to get 85%+
Banner up-time you should aim for 80%+ to begin with. Ideally as close to 100% as possible. This is not do-able in all dungeons but definitely is in others.
sick sentinel
Hey beginner here. Whats a good uptime on Banner, Ignore Pain and Shield Block i...
uptime for shield block doesn't matter, only % of hits blockable, thats to say if the boss casts 17 heroic strikes and 8 cleaves on you and all of those are block able, you should aim to have 15 and 7 (example)
have to point your character towards the guy attacking or you wont block either.
fervent dune
thanks
hardy snow
reactive defense matrix, trinket from guardian in SoD
sick sentinel
poor guy probably wrong time to be learning to run mythic spires
minor helm
sick sentinel
in another 2 months it will be pointless knowledge
just run in and 1 shot auto attack everything
wintry nymph
he might not be learning them, he might just be doing them to gear an alt
doing m0 is a great way to get a bit of gear on it
minor helm
He wrote learning/progression
minor helm
Although that could be a new option along with completion or something
Haven’t seen that one before
gaunt turret
new to prot. How much overall is descent?
lofty widget
15-20k?
gaunt turret
upper/workshop
lofty widget
ws is probably 15-17k, upper can be close to 20k with proper SR usage
pallid quiver
Upper's also hard because of said SR usage; it scales very heavily with key level due to how much damage leverage you can get from SR in Upper
trim bay
its hard if your retarded group kicks
or moves in before the pawn dies to bait royal slash
lofty widget
nah most the reflectable stuff isnt kickable
gaunt turret
in 20s sr 4-5th in my dps
steep condor
Warriors get more loyalty from people I speak to than any other spec/class i can think of. It's the class people have played for many years and seem to stick to. Why is that? This is from someone who is in two minds between brew and prot warrior.
minor helm
We ain’t got the wrinkles to figure anything else out
lusty tiger
Because once you have done log diving into your own warrior gameplay you realize it is the best spec
And there’s nothing better than 
sick sentinel
i'm convinced botanist's plant ability in WS does nothing
he's (botanist) the scariest thing in that entire dungeon except for p2 magnet arm final boss, says it does something (namely catch fire) if it hits the fire sticks
mighty sand
17k as prot in WS, what am I doing wrong, did 12k last time I was in there as prot.
Ilvl 290, lvl 15 dungeon.
drifting fable
literally no way to know without a log
urban portal
shouldve had more crit
mighty sand
I guess I'll dive into more research. Been back for about two weeks and just assumed that was OK damage
modern brook
i'm convinced botanist's plant ability in WS does nothing
the plant channel does damage to random players, ignoring them, especially at higher key levels, is fatal to your dps
Their 2nd ability is just "more things to dodge during the flame cannon"
pallid quiver
Warriors get more loyalty from people I speak to than any other spec/class i can...
I want to say something like fantasy or it's just the character I've always played so I see myself in it or something
But execute is really good to press
lusty grotto
uhh
i have a question about heroic anduin
what is this? does p2 in this dumb fucking guide refer to grim reflection phase?
mighty valley
Yes
lusty grotto
also what do pugs generally expect, stack with reflections or no?
cause ive been yoloing stacking
mighty valley
If the adds get hit by a wicked star you're fucked
lusty grotto
they go down fast enough though
mighty valley
Ideally you should be able to stack within cleave range but not on top
But it depends on how much you trust the pug, if someone doesn't move away they might fuck it up
lusty grotto
100% every single stupid wipe is either not killing abom or people fucking up blasphemy
hmm
ill take that into consideration
ty harrow
mighty valley
If DPS isn't the problem the safest thing is to be a little further away, but it is a damage loss
lusty grotto
yeah well unfortunately pugging that means i gotta think on the fly there
unless its a group that's staying after that and i see them moving stars away
on that note
i absolutely fucking hate pugging fated sfo
interesting fights though
heroic that is
mighty valley
i think it's a very cool raid for learning with your team
but there are so many ways for one rando to really fuck it up
lusty grotto
yeah unfortunately im just pugging
i know the fights now at least
except for rygelon, which i havent seen
i did it on normal but apparently heroic has yet another soak mechanic or something?
for tanks i think
and not entirely sure positioning wise cause on normal i was just told to get him near and orb thingie
lusty grotto
hmm
mighty valley
when the cast goes off and you go downstairs, there are two orbs
the raid needs to stack on them until they're depleted, then one tank stays behind to soak
while everyone else goes to the second one
you can either alternate the tanks soaking, or do what we did and have one tank (bdk cotank for me) do both soaks while I just dealt with rygelon
tropic gorge
I want to say something like fantasy or it's just the character I've always play...
this cannot be understated. execute is amazing
esp when your doing nice 20k or higher crits as a tank
"why yes, i do want that victory rush proc. how did you know?"
lusty grotto
so when you say you go downstairs
do you mean after massive bang soaks?
does he tp you somewhere else?
mighty valley
no it's just the other phase of the same room, with all the color washed out
mighty valley
dunno why we always say "downstairs" for stuff like anduin and rygelon lol
flint plank
2 weeks straight with no Prot artifact hidden appearance weapon proc in the cave lol
tired chasm
priest bubbles don't impact rage gen correct?
urban portal
they shouldnt
steep condor
I want to say something like fantasy or it's just the character I've always play...
I completely get the class fantasy aspect, I wish I had rolled a blacksmith prot warrior back in 2004 and just stuck with it the whole good or bad.
And yes execute is lovely to press 😂
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily
warm plinth
ionic fern
Actually scary.
dire tulip
I did 16s and 15s in workshop, lower, streets,gambit, iron docks and grim rail and I can very much say screw sanguine. I hate this affix. It isn't even tough. It just sucks
undone verge
It’s not hard, but it’s annoying asf always having to be ready to move the mobs
blazing condor
sanguine is easy mode
unless you get mobs that can get stuck in casts
like shards in HOA
gentle scaffold
is tankingn worth it
blazing condor
yes
i like being able to be in control of what happens
instead of seeing dumb tanks do dumb things with not much to stop it
trim bay
i love wathcing dps pull
when i wasnt ready or didnt want it
and i let them die
in junkyard
nothing gets me harder
steep condor
I used sanguine to troll the warlock who kept pulling.. soon as he popped cd's id decide it was time to move the mobs cos 'sanguine bruh'.
dusky sentinel
Doob. U can also do it different. Keep em in sanguine and move them when he done 
Honestly. Locks been the most annoying thing this patch. Its not that they make it harder but the fact that they pull everything and not even asking. Their messing with my respect! And I dont tolerate it!
hardy snow
unless you get mobs that can get stuck in casts
just control hp of mobs and move them out of casters when they are about to die
tardy sequoia
My guildmates think blizzard did a horrible thing with how reprisal works: not really the power it provides, more how it is designed. Do you agree?
tardy sequoia
I mean they say too much movement is involved (intervene, charge etc.)
ionic fern
I mean they say too much movement is involved (intervene, charge etc.)
I like it.
Some people don't like it.
sick sentinel
i got lazy this week and its only a 304, 301 / something in vault
warm plinth
Movement as part of rotation is shit.
sick sentinel
didn't want to run my upper key at all
sick sentinel
Movement as part of rotation is shit.
true but nessecary
cobalt seal
Movement as part of rotation is shit.
that's why having it tied to SB is meh
steep condor
Honestly. Locks been the most annoying thing this patch. Its not that they make ...
Hahah im with you on that one 🙂
tardy sequoia
that's why having it tied to SB is meh
I think they realized it and improved it with the talent tied to shield charge that behaves like reprisal
chrome falcon
I mean they say too much movement is involved (intervene, charge etc.)
I mean that just sounds like whining lol
lusty tiger
Having a min range for a part of your rotation like a classic hunter does kinda suck
sick sentinel
BM hunter is considered bad for m+? sheesh
and sub rogue? has to be something wrong with this list.
minor helm
It’s about representation not performance
sick sentinel
the season 3 feral druid who carried my 17 theatre with 15k dps and killed all the explosives?
minor helm
Doesn’t matter how his performance was
sick sentinel
just, that the specs don't often show up right
minor helm
Correct the player base for those specs is significantly less than other specs of the same class
sick sentinel
TBF disc is notoriously hard to play at a high level (looking at break the meta event)
mellow bridge
sick sentinel
i like hunters with pet cuz then it can emergency taunt or stun
ionic fern
Most hunters don't even know that their pet has a taunt/stun. And even if they do, they won't use it.
modern brook
hunters
sick sentinel
hunters usually do insane damage and have MD and FD, that's all i need to know
jolly granite
Most hunters don't even know that their pet has a taunt/stun. And even if they d...
9/10 hunter don’t know/use turtle and missdirect
modern brook
I would rather them unbind pet taunt
Honestly this
tropic gorge
For every hunter that doesn't know about taunt, you'll run into one with taunt on auto cast
Usually a South American, or someone who says 0 words in chat
cobalt seal
Most hunters don't even know that their pet has a taunt/stun. And even if they d...
wdym
my pet doesn't have a stun
cinder nova
Most hunters don't even know that their pet has a taunt/stun. And even if they d...
I mald when I see hunters not using tranq for magic dispel.
I straight /ragequit a key and bricked it because a hunter was our only purge and he just never pressed it.
His reaction
?? bro it's for rage effects
I lost it.
tropic gorge
Lol
ionic fern
It's not only hunters tho.
It's legit all the classes. People either don't know about their utility or don't bother using it.
tropic gorge
Fairly normal between 1 and like 16-17
tropic gorge
But, I've seen people in 18 to 20 that I wonder how tf they have the raiting they have and their ilvl
cobalt seal
But, I've seen people in 18 to 20 that I wonder how tf they have the raiting the...
?
you can add that number to 28's
and still find people like that lol
tropic gorge
I haven't gone over 20
There's a huge gap in skill after like 18 tho, that I've noticed. And people up near 20 seem to be a bit more serious, and play better. On average in my experience
lusty tiger
One thing I noticed in 18-20 people will do shit dps and then leave keys because you didn’t know a skip or something
If people did their rotation and cc you wouldn’t need to skip in an 18 ever
uneven mason
One thing I noticed in 18-20 people will do shit dps and then leave keys because...
Carry culture
lusty tiger
Yeah it’s super toxic
modern brook
Iunno that's like late stage wow in its prime
ionic fern
People around the 20 more or less know their DPS rotation.
People above 20 also start figuring out "ooh,hei,look,i got utility".
modern brook
People finally start doing 20s because they numerically bulldoze everything and think they're hot shit
ionic fern
People below 20 are like "Hurrdurr fotm button smash"
modern brook
And in reality blizzard just donated them fun
chrome falcon
SFA is bad in keys right
i know it sims best but
that's only for ST
(comparing to 311 OWS and 291 RDM)
sick sentinel
its supposed to be good for single target, so maybe against tyranical bosses?
lofty widget
i ran it in some dungeons when igot it and it didnt seem to beat rdm overall
swift shard
Can someone confirm or deny something for me, is there a skill for Prot Warriors that is a Stance, reducing damage taken and reducing damage dealt?
swift shard
Ah so it is Arms that has it then
lusty tiger
For now
swift shard
That seems like more of a Prot trait
sick sentinel
perma-toggleable -20% damage incoming for prot would be stupidly overpowered
urban portal
perma-toggleable -20% damage incoming for prot would be stupidly overpowered
Oh wait until you see dragonflight yogi
sick sentinel
is there any notable trash mobs in streets this week because fort + raging.
i'd mostly be scared of the mario fire stick guys at the start of dungeon
old sinew
Mario fire stick guys?
lusty tiger
The lasers
That spin
The trick is to cc them, los the cast, or have a kite path away
tropic gorge
Melting them before they have a few beams up also works 🙂
tropic gorge
is there any notable trash mobs in streets this week because fort + raging.
Just be careful of pull size as always during these weeks
During raging I usually do slightly smaller, more frequent pulls
gloomy vortex
I have a 291 fated trinket, can I use the heroic drops that I need 20 of to upgrade to 298 or must it be mythic?
sick sentinel
is a stick goes round and round, you touch it get set on fire and die
drifting fable
I have a 291 fated trinket, can I use the heroic drops that I need 20 of to upgr...
you can upgrade from LFR+Normal immediately to heroic or mythic
gloomy vortex
yeah but is that to 298? because it is 291 atm
drifting fable
depends on the trinket but should be
if you use a heroic upgrade on a normal item it will go to heroic.
strong forum
If its 291, it can't be 298
It depends from which boss it drops
291 is regular heroic boss ilvl
298 is endboss heroic ilvl
The only 298 trinkets are ows, stone legion heraldry, sanguine vintage, dreadfire vessel, scars and iirc the swarm trinket
From raid*
old sinew
Kt book
Also I guess the swarm trinket is Dreadlords? There’s a different neurbian trinket from kt as well
sick sentinel
yeah i got 298 book on mage from quest
strong forum
Well im mainly talking warri
old sinew
Well im mainly talking warri
O I was confused cuz you said dreadfire
strong forum
Well warri can drop that too
grave wedge
this game has reverse badluck rng
chasing a shield for weeks and it gives me the lfr one dunno if i should snag it and hold onto it for a potential upgrade token to use in 2 weeks or take 304 legs which are an upgrade from 298.
kinda a feel bad choice either way 6 ilvls or the best shield im gonna get in two weeks ( not doing mythic) pants and thinking itd bad chose but i can farm a 298 i cant farm a 304
urban portal
You are gonna find a better shield easily
tropic gorge
Don't forget prepatch is probably at the end of the month
steep condor
i am low ilvl so pretty much any gear is an upgrade for me right now - i have done 4.5k valor worth of dungeon runs and had a single item in that whole time, a mechagon ring that activates if i heal someone below 50%.
i have become way more comfy with my warrior so not all is lost but feels very bad ngl
lusty tiger
Once you have 2x Lego and 4pc do t worry about ilvl until you’re getting 1shot or need to push from 12k dps- 16k dps overall for example
patent gorge
grave wedge
Don't forget prepatch is probably at the end of the month
true we get acces to all raids that point right which means i can run it weekly. Im about to to use this xp boost to lvl my ally warrior lol
spiral smelt
anyone have tips for this week?
tropic gorge
push buttons
mighty valley
bring rogues/hunters/druids and you can ignore one of the affixes
warm plinth
@ionic fern
warm plinth
Sleepy. Heading to bed. Got my sister home and settled
cosmic basin
278 shard of anhylde or 304 soleah's secret technique for pushing higher keys? (15-22/23`s) and also why? 😄
lofty widget
Of those 2 definitely soleahs, aegis is overkill for anything below at least 26-28
But ows/rdm beats soleahs by a mile
tropic gorge
I'm running ows/rdm and it's a great combo
swift shard
In open world, how do warriors make up for lack of health sustain?
tropic gorge
Nothing in the over world can hurt you
tropic gorge
Except world bosses, victory rush is huge
jagged pier
which is more than enough
tropic gorge
Mount up and pull as much stuff as you can, you'll see. Overworld mobs are a joke
swift shard
I ask this coming from DK, so not having a mid fight heal is a bit jaring
tropic gorge
Gotta kill something for a victory rush heal.
swift shard
So used to my health going like a yoyo
jagged pier
well prot isnt reactive
tropic gorge
But you won't need any of it. You won't take dmg on the overworld as a tank warrior
jagged pier
so it shouldnt need a heal mid fight
swift shard
As I said it is just a bit jaring
jagged pier
the whole ppoint of bdk is that is literally reacts to damage it takes
prot should never take the damage in the first place
tropic gorge
By jarring you mean better right
Hehe
At pretty much any gear level, a prot war in the overworld is a god that can't be killed
Pull as much as you can as often as you can and have fun with it
swift shard
It is like going from a "you hit me but I am still standing." To " I am going to hit you first and good luck hitting me back."
Getting my head around the new playstyle is fun
tropic gorge
My war solos elites that my mage has to kite and be careful with
tropic gorge
You'll like it. Esp when you see that no matter what you pull you kill it with ease. Keybind victory rush for a 30 percent (I think) mega heal per kill you get
The pwar I can basically afk solo anything
swift shard
I think mine at the moment does 20%
tropic gorge
The mage requires a bit of work lol and effort
I forget the exact amount of vr
But it's big, and scales up with last stand or the hp shout
swift shard
It is why I enjoy tank/brawler classes. The ability to be in the thick of it and survive
swift shard
What is a reasonable max health that I should have? Coming from Bdk with 100k+ health has my standards a bit high
jagged pier
at 302 i have 152
but could literally be like 90k and be fine in pretty much all content
when played correctly u mitigate far to much damage
swift shard
That sounds more like it
sick sentinel
swift shard
Need to get gearing then
tropic gorge
Whatever you have with highest ilvl gear you have
uneven mason
What is a reasonable max health that I should have? Coming from Bdk with 100k+ h...
Prot has a lot of hp, but if you're coming from blood dk you'll need to adjust to some crucial things
Specifically, if your hp moves at all you probably made a mistake. We're the polar opposite of bdk when it comes to damage intake
cinder nova
I mean, you're gonna get spiked no matter what, it's a matter of trying to predict and prepare for them.
The less your health moves the better.
We want our damage intake to be as predictable as possible, because then it's easily healed.
lusty tiger
Trickle hots mostly from aoe should keep us topped, that’s the goal
I’m either getting a CoH echo or I’m getting GA no in between
swift shard
That sounds reasonable, so an actual tanky tank
uneven mason
We're bricks, 100% proactive about damage, bdk is 100% reactive
gloomy vortex
Any guides outside icy veins for recommended rotation for prot warrior?
My max mythic is 20 and wanna check my rotation/damage mitigation
tropic gorge
You keeping block up?
Posting logs here will help, as people here can help you identify mistakes and where to make improvements
modern brook
I can type it out for you if you'd like
It's the same rotation regardless of the font you read it in tho
topaz field
We're bricks, 100% proactive about damage, bdk is 100% reactive
bdk presses drw and is a prot warrior idk about that one
modern brook
And yah logs + videos are the best methods for identifying errors
gloomy vortex
What do you use to log and export the logs of a dungeon?
gloomy vortex
You keeping block up?
I try as much as I can
gloomy vortex
I can type it out for you if you'd like
Sure
gloomy vortex
It's the same rotation regardless of the font you read it in tho
Are you saying it’s same as icy veins?
lofty widget
Theres no "rotation", its just a bunch of prios depends on the situation
sick sentinel
Good day people is this any good of a trinket for prot in M+ only.
jagged pier
its not very good no, its better than the other trinket u have equiped tho
sick sentinel
so codex no good for prot?
this is just an alt i dont play much just like some m+ for fun
so i still dont know much, fairly new to prot.
jagged pier
codex is the worst trinket for prot
sick sentinel
heard defense matrix is good from guardian
jagged pier
it is
sick sentinel
so matrix and what is the secound one that is good?
jagged pier
OWS matrix and aegis
sick sentinel
alright thank you mate 🙂
modern brook
Are you saying it’s same as icy veins?
yes
Use your CDs on CD
shield Slam whenever possible
IP to avoid overcapping, revenge when everything else is on cd
with glory + double legendary + proper reprisal usage you generate enough rage that you really shouldnt have dead globals, and spending rage is important to maintain banner
warm silo
Use your CDs on CD
?
warm silo
Guess so
gaunt dawn
well its more dont ignore them
plan their uses
you know ahead of time what the combat cadence will be like
unless you're world first
strong forum
Good day people is this any good of a trinket for prot in M+ only.
this trinket doesnt do a whole lot, it only procs once per minute and then only on 1 target
sick sentinel
3070, same as before but newer version basically
better FPS, thats all ineed to hear
gloomy vortex
My 5070 xt is still going strong even on an large ultra wide monitor at 4K
I do want to go for a 3080 though
tropic gorge
The 3080 is a good card if you can find a new, not used for crypto at a good price
uneven mason
They're going down for sure, my pal just nabbed a 3090 for 750
tropic gorge
Hell yeah!
uneven mason
Legitimately the 4000 cards fail massively compared to the 3000 in price per performance, and that's before the priced plummeted
Hell, in a few weeks the 3000 cards might reach AMD level of PPD if they drop another 20%
sick sentinel
does game higher frame rate ? yes > can i afford it? yes > can my system handle it? yes > = i buy it
prisma crane
?
its not that weird of a statement, many classes might hold a CD to allow things to align, for us we generally do not
warm silo
well yeah i realized u were talking specifically about offensive cds
But even then i dont think its always true
Could be worth to hold rage generators like last stand to make sure you have it in execute
mighty valley
LS yeah since it's a longer cooldown and sending it is less likely to mean you get an extra cast in the fight
Our other CDs are just so short
prisma crane
But even then i dont think its always true
yea, that's why i said generally, there's always judgement calls, but tbh that's what's half the fun for us and why i still miss the Legion AM that affected everything
gloomy vortex
Anyone fancy taking a look at this run please, see if there is any feedback? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hPj1WmcqfKHMzb2y/
undone verge
well I see it didnt quite read banner right lol cause theres no way it was only up for 7% of the run
slow spire
Just looking at it quickly, needs more conq banner casts and uptime
undone verge
even focusing on SB and IP banner should be at least 40%
check details and make sure
prisma crane
i still dont have my shield yet, did my first key of S4 on my shaman, got shield as only option
drifting fable
Anyone fancy taking a look at this run please, see if there is any feedback? htt...
please tell me your first cast of banner was not 14 minutes into the dungeon
because i can tell you thats your number 1 problem right there if so
you can “focus on IP and SB” as you put it while you have banner up. they go hand in hand
mighty valley
Yep, you should be pressing banner on your first pull and then trying to keep it going forever
prisma crane
more than that, banner helps with focusing on SB and IP
mighty valley
You've overcapped a ton of rage, that can all be going into IP to keep Banner going
Overall you're just not pressing enough buttons, you should be hitting Revenge a lot more than you do
drifting fable
if youre still confused on how everything coordinates with banner, check the vid in pins.
mighty valley
You cast Intervene twice, should be using it on cooldown with Reprisal
drifting fable
6% and 7% banner uptime indicates you might not truly understand how interacts
or rather what your “goal” should be, which is dump that rage to keep that thing up
slow spire
second week of mythic raid tanking; its all coming together 💪
sick sentinel
nope, junk ring
chrome falcon
Anyone fancy taking a look at this run please, see if there is any feedback? htt...
other than blocked hits, conq banner uptime is basically the metric that defines the entire class
only casting it 4 times per instance is kind of insane
you need to press a lot more buttons especially revenge
please tell me you're not only casting revenge on procs?
your cpm in junkyard is slightly under 40
it needs to be around 80
prisma crane
6% and 7% banner uptime indicates you might not truly understand how interacts
dumb question since i didnt check logs, i'm assuming he definitely has Glory right?
drifting fable
yeah he does but coulda been bugged i guess
chrome falcon
and when they did they were spending basically 0 rage to keep it up
chrome falcon
i think you guys are underestimating the possibility that they just don't understand the rage machine
drifting fable
so it was weird they didnt do it for 14 min in jy
prisma crane
it happens
when learning to ride a bike you're not that focused on how to shift yet
chrome falcon
I will admit I was focusing more on IP and SB on that run
if you were focusing on IP you would have more than 7% uptime, try to remember that this entire class is 100% dedicated to keeping up banner and spamming as much rage as possible
also your glory might be bugged so uhhh
unequip/re-equip it
i genuinely can't tell
cinder nova
You can tell just by checking the duration.
If all of his casts are exactly 15s uptime then it's bugged.
If one lasts 16s+ then it isn't.
prisma crane
its ok, baby steps!
cinder nova
Yeah all his casts are like around ± 20 seconds.
ornate thunder
Is there a good weak aura that shows ending total duration similar to the uptime one for frost breath on dk’s
sick sentinel
https://discord.gg/acherus seems more like a question for this discord as its about DK's
mighty valley
Is there a good weak aura that shows ending total duration similar to the uptime...
what duration do you mean? banner uptime?
cobalt seal
https://discord.gg/acherus seems more like a question for this discord as its ab...
he asked for similar
not for breath one
sick sentinel
my logic would be go find the guy who made it
and my logic from there is since its a DK ability, he probably hengs out in DK dicsord and then can tell you how he made it
mighty valley
there are lots of existing WAs for warrior timers, I just don't know which one they're looking for
cobalt seal
sure, every WA dev is on class discords
sick sentinel
?? no, often, but not always devs will leave their emails in wago files if you read the page
ornate thunder
I can easily adjust that one to do what I want, I thought there might be a cleaner nicer one that people knew of. But sorry I asked in the class discord if anyone knew of a class weak aura that existed and referenced a different class. May I burn in hell for all eternity.
ornate thunder
what duration do you mean? banner uptime?
Yes, just something clean that tracks it, I'm just adjusting the one I mentioned not worth interacting with humans.
ornate thunder
Have one like that I made quick for my prot group, really want one that shows a total on completion. Ty though!
orchid mural
anyone else unable to log into retail? did OW2 break bnet?
lusty tiger
Screw fell out of my cursed chair ):
rocky kraken
leach prob better
mighty valley
nah don't think leech is worth dropping 6 ilvls
onyx vessel
Screw fell out of my cursed chair ):
Quit beating it off sitting in your chair and it wont lose screws
I remember raiding with my old chair it was missing a handle and if i sat wrong it would fall
cold shell
you guys probably get this question a lot and im gonna say sorry in advance but at what % of haste did you guys get to comfortably keep up banner? im sweating at 28% (with into the frey) and the best i could get it to is 15sec remaining on banner cd . It's a new char so I still need the gear but managed to use the Zereth mortis currency to get 4p and have double leggo.
urban portal
its not your haste
haste effects pretty little due to how much rage gen comes from non hasted sources
(charge,intervene,banner)
cold shell
oh guess im just shit then, thought devestate shield slam reset procs would be part of it
urban portal
im not saying haste doesnt increase your rage gen
it just doesnt increase it as much as you think it does
valid onyx
mythic + buff? should I get haste/ vers/ mastery/
mighty valley
Haste
urban portal
only haste
mighty valley
okay ill keep hitting the dummy and pray i see the way of the infinite banner
Remember it'll be slightly easier in real content since you'll be able to intervene on CD
although you'll also have a million more distractions
valid onyx
so my stats are 16% crit/ 33% haste/ 39% mastery/ 18% ver.. what should I change.. this is for mythic +
mighty valley
just take highest ilvl everything, you'll be fine
mighty valley
Nice! It's all up from here
gloomy vortex
please tell me you're not only casting revenge on procs?
No I need to cast it to help keep aggro and what is cpm?
pallid quiver
Casts per minute, so how many times you used abilities or a specific ability per minute on average
gloomy vortex
I feel like I’m spamming my abilities already
I think it’s my rotation that is the issue
oblique garnet
okay ill keep hitting the dummy and pray i see the way of the infinite banner
Play ravager better rage gen than itf
lime urchin
Check the video in the pins to see rotation and banner uptiming
sick sentinel
Screw fell out of my cursed chair ):
my boomer neighbor bought a chair and he takes a screw andput it in the wheels so the wheels don't move on him
lusty tiger
I want the wheels to move
The chair always sinks down after a couple hours
Have to pull the raise chair lever multiple times during gaming
And the arm rests are a sneeze away from falling off
It’s like an extra action button irl
sick sentinel
buy rubber wheels, then you can glide across all surfaces without damaging shit
like, 25 bucks on amazon probably
uneven mason
Have to pull the raise chair lever multiple times during gaming
You need to air seal your hydraulics
I fucking hate my phone's tinyass keyboard and auto correct
Why don't they make an accessibility setting on these things called "I don't have babyhands you microscopic twat"
lusty tiger
Some things I want autocorrected, some I don’t
I use a combination of swiping and typing
Swiping is op for using one hand
lusty tiger
You need to air seal your hydraulics
With like vaseline?
tropic gorge
Why don't they make an accessibility setting on these things called "I don't hav...
SwiftKey if your on Android is the answer
cinder nova
298 hands with leech or 304 hands without leech
304, leech isn't worth str don't kid yourself
tropic gorge
I think leech sucks until you have a whole lot of it
Like 3 to 5 percent may as well not even be there. Just my 02
edgy grail
gloomy vortex
Wondering what all your keybinds are for the spec? Anyone fancy sharing
modern brook
the 1z5b square is op
lusty tiger
Wut
drifting fable
Wondering what all your keybinds are for the spec? Anyone fancy sharing
i generally try to keep everything to 1 button press when possible. Keys that are very under utilized and I highly recommend rebinding to spells are Z, X, C, E, R, F and G. V, B, and T are also OK for some. I also recommend having spells on your mouse buttons. you dont need a fancy MMO mouse, but if you have 1-2 side buttons you might as well use them because theyre fast to hit. MouseWheel Up and MouseWheel Down are also really good for any abilities you have to spam alot. for instance, I put IP on there, but its different for everyone
lusty tiger
Ye
drifting fable
thats a pretty good visual
modern brook
1z5b square
modern brook
thats causei made it up
drifting fable
hazy thicket
Mouse buttons remapped to alt/ctrl/shift are also really good for doubling etc your keybinds imo
hazy thicket
I think I have 48 including all pots and trinkets
modern brook
60 keybinds
you were closer on the first estimate
you gotta take 3-4 keys off for movement
modern brook
which translates to like 12 ish once modifiers are considered
lusty tiger
Word
modern brook
unless you're an absolute fucking psychopath
lusty tiger
Not yet
strong forum
we only have time until 9
so we couldnt have finished the key, and its more value to do the 27 cuz depleted keys dont coutn for break the meta
modern brook
I legit tuned in, said "If this ad ends and the btm isnt 5 tanks ima be pissed" the ad ends, it was 5 tanks i smiled, the stream ended
In theory it was the ideal entertainment
modern brook
👀
strong forum
on the vod
modern brook
I might later
BTW i always click your ads
I am your google ad sense
Just want you to know
strong forum
❤️
modern brook
(its cause i cant sub)
strong forum
it do be like that sometime
modern brook
I mean idt Dvorak has any implication on your keybinds
But hard agree my guy drak knows what's up
lusty tiger
What is dvorak
modern brook
It's an alternate keyboard set up designed by some dork named dvorak
The idea is the most common letters are on the home row
To reduce hand movement while typing
Unfortunately, just like edison did to tesla
lusty tiger
You guys don’t type telepathically yet?
modern brook
Robert Qwerty fucking popularized a shittier model so what can you do
naive panther
While doing the precast
modern brook
How do I spell reflect the big slimes in junkyard?
the ones that unlock the boss?
odd tree
Robert Qwerty fucking popularized a shittier model so what can you do
you had me for a second there
modern brook
sick sentinel
H for heal, something that does a heal, like you heal your self, instant for a whole bunch, LOH or VR or WOG or somethin
void stump
the ones that unlock the boss?
yes
ebon wren
any tips for large pulls on warrior? I dont feel like we have a toolkit for it. I also get wrecked in atempting the same large pulls my paladin can do with ease. Pally gets more holy power/more self heals, monks get larger brew heals, etc. what do warriors do?
uneven mason
Stop damage before it happens
ebon wren
bears incarn, dk's... well they just dk. and when I do large pull and my health drops hard from magic or w/e.. I'm left hangin with no recourse to heal myself back up. its frustrating.
uneven mason
Warriors are 100% proactive tanks, if you're just plowing into mobs with nothing up you're going to get wrecked
All other tanks are reactive
ebon wren
shield is always up. I demo shout at start. what else is there to be up
banner up of course
I think I just stink with warrior :p.
uneven mason
Drop some logs
ebon wren
ysa I got wrecked on huntsman trash ill have to find tha tlog
lusty tiger
Huntsman… trash?
uneven mason
So, that trash is cancer
lusty tiger
They bleed right?
uneven mason
Ac debuff
Combined with haste buffs
Also charge is shadow damage so don't stand in it
void stump
👌🏻
grave wedge
so are you guys really able to keep banner up from the first pull throughout a dungeon? im starting to get the hang of intervening and leaping away, charging back . I do have trouble intervening away and then charging back sometimes without causing anything to change location
mighty valley
if i'm able to pull continuously, i'm able to keep it running, yeah
and then you just have to think about when you need to hold the recast for times where there's too much travel or RP or whatever
you often don't need to leap away, considering everything is slowed just walking a few steps can be enough to get to charge range
you definitely don't want to intervene and charge back to back, wastes a free revenge and probably overcaps
i just intervene melee
also many packs have casters/ranged enemies you can charge to for free
grave wedge
so do you also pop avatar last stand demo with banner or you do cycle through each
mighty valley
pop everything on pull
mighty valley
build that duration up huge
you just have to mash mash mash IP while you're going through those GCDs with LS up
grave wedge
okay cool love it. seems like its just more of a practice make perfect thing
yeah usualy im not generating enough rage and itll fall off between pack but im gonna work kiting one group towards the next more and things of that nature try to speed up the chain pulling safely. learning with pugs can be a hell of a learning curve
mighty valley
I learned with a FDK who really wanted to keep breath going haha
we were of the same mind
he would death grip for me to speed things up
grave wedge
is raged still based off damage taken at all? that may be like a lost in classic thing, wondering if you build more rage in higher keys. I havent noticed a difference but i havent looked for one tbh
mighty valley
it's heavily normalized, you only gain a fixed amount of rage by being hit and it can only happen once every few seconds
so it's basically the same so long as you're being hit, increased damage taken doesn't matter
grave wedge
gotcha yeah sometimes higher keys feel easier but thats probbably because of the better pugs lol
foggy wigeon
So this is like super scrub question. But i seem to pool a Lot of rage when i pop banner of and dont seem to be spending enough to not waste significant enough amount to not be messing my total duration ( i cureently am averaging around 1.5 minutes ) . Am i just not smashing IP and Reveng fast enough you think or i should just be spreading my other generators like Avatar , last Stand Demo shout more ?
mighty valley
You shouldn't need to spread out your CDs - probably just need to mash IP more, and also it's ok to skip Thunderclap to just press more Revenge when you're really really overflowing with rage and need to spend it
foggy wigeon
👌 thanks .
median latch
weave of warped fate vs splintered heart of al'ar, any reason to strongly prefer one over the other?
chrome falcon
nop
cobalt seal
weave of warped fate vs splintered heart of al'ar, any reason to strongly prefer...
strong reason to not use either
median latch
If you know you need a cheat death deal, just seeing if they worked different mechanically at all