protection

[mellow bridge]

The out of combat timer for OWS is way longer than 5s

It's like 20s

Makes it easy to keep the stacks in most places

[chrome falcon]

it's 5 seconds out of combat before it starts a 20 second timer to get back into combat

[cosmic basin]

Ok, so technically there is a way to not drop stacks at all unless its stuff like GD 2nd boss or Gambit 1st boss, stuff that actually you gotta wait and cant do much otherwise 😄

[mighty valley]

God damn I thought I was cool

25 seconds is an eternity

[robust surge]

do y'all have any tips for piercing missiles

[mortal brook]

reflect the last tick so you dont get the debuff

[tropic gorge]

Bring lots of interrupts

[edgy bone]

how do thes conduits look?

[undone verge]

not green enough

[chrome falcon]

well kyrian is a bad covenant

so

not great!

[undone verge]

bad is such an over exaggerated word, its not the best

necro is a lot better

[chrome falcon]

i mean

no covenant is "bad" in the sense that they make your character weaker

but compared to necro, yes, the other covenants are all bad

if necro is up here
.
.
.
.
.
and kyrian is down here
.
.
and no covenant at all is down here

then kyrian is real bad

[undone verge]

necro is ahead by around 2k dps, which is significant, but in no way makes kyrian bad something being good doesn't make others bad, just means its not the best. I'm in no way saying roll kyrian, but its not bad in the sense that running kyrian is going to kill you, or be the reason your damage is low

[toxic pewter]

venthyr prot is the way to go

[waxen orbit]

Naw it's bad

If you're doing real content it's a complete hamstring to you survival and damage wise

[chrome falcon]

Running kyrian will definitely kill you even at like the 23-24 level

you're so much squishier on that shit

relative to what necrolord gives you

kyrian is bad

if you're not going to call kyrian prot warrior bad, then you're not going to call any covenant choice bad, imo

[waxen orbit]

"A wooden razor isn't bad just because most functional razors are steel"

[chrome falcon]

yeah i mean

that's slightly hyperbolic

but honestly only slightly

[waxen orbit]

If things are exactly the way balance-wise with covenants as they were when I started my break I'd say it's maybe 5% hyperbole

[mighty valley]

it's tough because like

there aren't level 20 beards vs. level 35 beards

where the wooden razor can handle the lower level beard

[echo egret]

This debate sums up the current perception of the game. Everything is either viewed as BiS or utter garbage.
Only the sith speak in such absolutes.

[ionic fern]

I mean, that's just SOME people

Imo play w/e .

You can freely do 23-24 as Kyrian/NF, hell even as Venthyr.

Is NL better? 100%.
Are the other garbage? No (coughVenthyrcough)

[undone verge]

The real content you’re considering is not most content. Kyrian is completely viable for any keys below like 24 and even mythic raid, might be an issue once you hit the final mythic bosses, but for the majority of mythic you aren’t going to have any issue

[undone verge]

This is exactly what I’m saying. I’m not arguing kyrian is better, or worth going over necro. But calling something bad is misleading when going kyrian is completely viable for the majority of players

[ionic fern]

What are these wild takes.

Holy crap.

The "Something is Nr1 so the rest must be sh*t" is the tier list view.

"Uh,oh, S rank only BDK, that means everything else is crap."

[mighty valley]

the other covs are less fun than necrolord, ergo, garbage

[ionic fern]

I enjoy Kyrian and NF.

Down with Venthyr tho.

[undone verge]

Samez

I enjoy nf the least tbh, but that’s mostly cause I don’t like frontal cone abilities

[mighty valley]

if the mysterious "massacre changes execute visuals" note in dragonflight is bringing along the condemn animation, all is right with the world

[waxen orbit]

Up to 24 and mythic raid is free obtainable on anything lol

[ionic fern]

Agreed.

[ionic fern]

You do realise that most people don't even do keys past 15 ye?

[undone verge]

For the top 1% of players yes lol

[waxen orbit]

Most people are not very good at the game

[mighty valley]

if we're talking all wow players most people like. barely engage with m+ as a system haha

[waxen orbit]

^

[ionic fern]

If you're just counting the top players of the world then:
Any of them can do a 25+ key as a Kyrian/NF/Venthyr. 🤷

[waxen orbit]

I'm saying gauging what's good and what isn't by what can clear mythic raid and mid range keys is kinda off

[ionic fern]

KNow why?
Because their team is good.

SECRET INGREDIENT

I KNOW

[undone verge]

Someone bring out the bells curve for covenant choice

[ionic fern]

Thinking ythat you can't do a 25+ key as any of the other covenants.

Smh.

What is this

[waxen orbit]

You def can lol

[mighty valley]

i think it is: worth telling people what the most powerful thing is, but not being weird about it if they'd rather play something else because they're not going hard

[waxen orbit]

25s this season aren't what they were in prior seasons and it's not at the level of scaling required to warrant being good at the spec as opposed to just a decent player

[waxen orbit]

This is pretty much the most based take

[undone verge]

People need to realize some people aren’t going to play the meta, and not playing the meta isn’t wrong, it’s personal preference.

[mighty valley]

prot warriors should not need to be told this, of all people

[undone verge]

If pwarriors are so worried about playing meta just roll bdk lol

[waxen orbit]

I think if you're serious about pushing on your spec, you should definitely want to play what will help you the most on your spec

Changing a covenant =/= changing classes

[undone verge]

It’s mostly a joke, but you’re right

[waxen orbit]

Sorry had a guildie who used the same argument concerning a similar topic xd

[mighty valley]

i think the other half of the equation is... people should be honest with themselves about what kinds of content they're realistically going to want to do and how hard they actually need to optimize

[undone verge]

Lol no worries

That take is a meme take and anyone who believes it is weird

[mighty valley]

i do think if you're the sort of person who has deep-seated anxieties around not being meta you'd really better get ready to switch a lot

or i dunno

learn to play the harp

or some other hobby

[undone verge]

Start leveling those tanks now

Better pay attention to all 6 discord so you’re always up to date on every spec

Since I gotta go to bed, my final take is play whatever, and if someone asks for advice on a non necro covenant, present them with necrolord, but still answer their original question. If they’re question was “why am I dying while playing venth prot in a 20 pug fort lower Kara,” well then the answer was probably they are the wrong cov lol, but if it’s what conduits are best for theotar in the pug 15s then “I’d recommend playing necrolord, but the best conduits are”

Which I’m actually guild of so

[undone verge]

Necrolord would be better, but for kyrian those conduits are the way to go

[plush prism]

why do I remember warlock summons never working in M+?

one just worked

[ionic fern]

🤷

[plush prism]

do they normally work?

[ionic fern]

Yes.,

[orchid frigate]

which shield?

[blazing condor]

ilvl

[strong forum]

If you won't ever get mythic upgrade tokens, the 304

If you will get mythic tokens, the 298

[green python]

Hey, just return on my war which item you think I need to take ?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wAebKjjVA1cwnV8g9rNda5

[jagged pier]

[green python]

True ><

[blazing condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKuoY_1uuB4

[orchid frigate]

but the 298 shield has better stats and avoidance 😦

[blazing condor]

304 has more block and main stat

[orchid frigate]

true true

[green python]

I change for you guys ❤️

[strong forum]

For starters you should sim patchwork not dungeon slice,
The dungeon slice sim is not optimised

But as you can clearly see, the sim is telling you to pick weapon from vault, which is one of the top items to pick from vault generally

And I assume you can't upgrade all your gear to 298 yet, and don't have higher ilvl options from vault. So it's not a bad pick

Wait there's a shield in there

[green python]

ok but assuming i can go farm my items in mm+, wouldn't taking the 304 shield and going farm a weapon be more interesting?

[green python]

yeah 304

[strong forum]

Then the shield

Easy fucking pick

[green python]

EZ

thx :3

[strong forum]

Going from 252 shield to 304 shield is like a 40% surv increase

Closer to 20% but still

Absolutely massive

[green python]

INSANE, thx to you 🙂

[strong forum]

We love critblock

674k hit? More like 12k hit

[jagged pier]

[jolly granite]

Some damage gets through the block?

Blocking is not 100% mitigation?

Man, you learn everyday 😎

[jade tartan]

is fusion hacker anygood?

[jagged pier]

[jade tartan]

or which weapon is the best weapon?

[jagged pier]

in aoe it wont out do stats

but ST may be better

[jade tartan]

i c

[jagged pier]

and best wep is the one from rygelon IF u can get it on fated mythic

[jade tartan]

ty<3

[round vortex]

Help me friends! I have a mythic upgrade token. Should I upgrade shield or OWS to 311 😱 gut says shield

Both are 298 fyi

[lofty widget]

Shield, ows scales pretty bad with ilvl

[strong forum]

Shield

Ows is the lowest prio on getting to higher ilvl

Going from 298 to 311 OWS you gain maybe like 15 extra haste

[round vortex]

Schweet. Gut was correct. I hadn’t run the numbers yet.

[mental flower]

I need to get my first dinar item and I'm wondering:

Annhylde trinket in HC ilvl
OWS in HC ilvl

I'm 90% sure I want Annhylde trinket because i've the nathrezims for the haste anyways, but i'm still doubting if i'm trolling myself, what do you guys think?

[jagged pier]

are u doing 26s?

[mental flower]

My plan is to move to that eventually, But made the warrior a couple weeks ago and i'm in the 16-17 range atm

[lofty widget]

Ows

[jagged pier]

then u have 0 need for aegis

[lofty widget]

Aegis is overkill times a million

[mental flower]

I want to get into 20s this week, it matters? no right?

[jagged pier]

aegis really doesnt matter at all

until the top lvls of m+

[mental flower]

Okay, I'll go for OWS as a first trinket and will get aegis in 2 weeks from now

[lofty widget]

Get rdm instead

[mental flower]

Or maybe I'm lucky and get it from HC or normal today (?)

[jagged pier]

u can get it from lfr as well

[mental flower]

RDM?

Too many names, i'm new at tanking ^^'

[lofty widget]

Defense matrix off guardian

[mental flower]

Okay, Matrix

[lofty widget]

That+ows is the general go-to for keys, and you wanna upgrades matrix before ows

[mental flower]

Then is better to start on matrix?

[lofty widget]

Ows should be your first dinar

[mental flower]

Okay

[lofty widget]

I wouldnt buy anything until you cleared All raid difficulties tho

[mental flower]

tyvm

This is my third raid, so it means I've cleaned everything. Should I wait until this weekly chest?

just in case?

[jagged pier]

by that logic u wait for every weekly

[lofty widget]

Just clear hc/normal/lfr if you drop it there theres no point sending a dinar on it

[jagged pier]

because the chest is from all fated bosses you've killed

[mental flower]

yeah, allright

thanks for the help mates!

[undone owl]

I have the ring at 298, i have 304 hands, the weap makes me sad but my current weap is 298

should i take the ring or weap? or 6x tokens

[cobalt seal]

Weapon

[undone owl]

but it has no stats 😭

[cobalt seal]

yes

but it's a 304 weapon

[sick sentinel]

probably last thing on that list is hands sure its tier set but with lower stat weights and shitty stats to begin with

[undone owl]

i have 304 haste verse hands

and 4x tier

[sick sentinel]

i'd probably wait on someone whos a bit more knowledgeable than i am

cro is knowledgable, but abrasive

[undone owl]

I know the weap is the correct choice, but i hate that weap 😄

[sick sentinel]

hes here currently, or was in the last lil bit

[cobalt seal]

do you want me to be abrasive to you?

[cobalt seal]

take sockets then

[sick sentinel]

oh yeah big boy abrasive me up cro

[cobalt seal]

it's your vault

[sick sentinel]

like for example i had the worst possible vault imaginable

[uneven mason]

You got 9 belts?

[sick sentinel]

both 304, but one is a literal duplicate item ring of what i have, so thats a a dead choice and then i have boots, good stats but thats my primary legendary slot.... and it can only be crafted in feet or legs, and then had to craft unity for 4th time now, cuz i've deleted chest, (previously a reccomended craft to higher stat budget, now we craft in wrists for lowest stat budget....🤔 .)

[tardy sequoia]

which one of these 3 is best upgrade?

[sick sentinel]

so, i'm so frustrated by that i have to remake unity, and then legendary that i make glory waist instead of unity

but, thats only 12k, which is like, 4 ish callings, bit of L bozo but whatever

(i didn't buy wrists the first time [yesterday vault] because its 25k gold vs 12k, and you still get the socket)

[lofty widget]

Short term probably 304 signet but you want mechagon rings anyway so i would take sockets

[undone verge]

Gluttonous spike isn’t the best aegis still outshines it, idk about RDM but I wouldn’t take spike over it in m+. It def is low tho so you’d have to sim it to find out. And both rings are pretty good, I’d go with the 304, but you have to consider that ideally you want the mechagon rings, so you will prob replace the 304 with a 298 mecha ring. But what I would chose is the 304 ring

[tardy sequoia]

definitely, gonna take the 304 ring then in place of the signet, thanks @undone verge @lofty widget

[sick sentinel]

i did pick up this last night at least

[blazing condor]

i wanna have bis gear and trinket (as well as game time) without having to put in any effort

any good 9.2.5 PS up?

kapp

[topaz field]

whats strange about someone wanting to have best gear for m+ and not liking raid?

[rigid schooner]

i have a normal shard of annlahydes and a normal OWS

im conflicted between taking funny vers trinket or codex mainly because the codex is 304 ilvl

[topaz field]

dont take codex

[lofty widget]

You dont want Any of those trinkets

Looks like sockets

[rigid schooner]

fair enough

[strong forum]

Rdm

Ah nvm

You switched the order

The gluttonous spike is your most immediate upgrade

Over the 252 aegis

[sick sentinel]

i had spike at like 200ilvl in 9.0 or 9.1, i thought it was okay.

[strong forum]

But if you want the choices you have:
-spike over aegis
-pick the 304 collapsing star
-pick 2 sockets

So whichever you like best

[tardy sequoia]

thanks

how do you deal with oshir' wolfes and wyvern?

[strong forum]

Wolves need to be slowed and CC

Wyvern can be perma CC'd

Or just kick rotation

[tardy sequoia]

but do i, as a tank, need to go melee to wolves when they come out of the cage or stay in middle?

[timid thicket]

Boss jumps to the wolf cage anyways

I usually just follow

[sick sentinel]

i didn't pick the sockets cuz i have nothing worth socketing, only a 304 helmet

would have taken ring if it wasn't same effect.

[shadow haven]

I only have the activate when below 50% hp ring though

[sick sentinel]

u probably really want the ring, but i could be mistaken

[shadow haven]

100%

[sick sentinel]

thats a haste ring with a haste proc if you have the other piece

does rally, or say, OWS trinket, trigger "Logic Loop of Synergy If you heal a target whose health is below 50%..." my assumption is ability, yes, trinket/item/special button no

[strong forum]

You want actual armor pieces first

Unless you don't wanna grind for the mecha rings

[sick sentinel]

grinding for mechagon rings is easy, grinding for correct ones is hard

[shadow haven]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/the-venture-co/tvilli

[cobalt seal]

hands

[shadow haven]

I can upgrade the oens I have to 298

[strong forum]

You can do the same with mecha rings

[sick sentinel]

change weapon mog so similiar but darker color more "steel weapon" type

[strong forum]

And a 298 mecha ring is only 10 total stat points worse than a 304

[shadow haven]

alright alright

the gloves in vault are haste mast

but i guess it makes sense since main stat

[strong forum]

You turn them into tier most likely anyway

[sick sentinel]

if they had that.... uhh..... axe? im think its an axe? without the horns, and in iron/steel colors that would be perfectfor ur mog, don't touch the red glow (much)

[shadow haven]

I'll look into what I have!

arent the tier gloves like crit mast?

say I get the mechagon haste ring later, is it worth using it with the below 50% activation over a haste/vers ring?

[sick sentinel]

yes, cuz now i have to use actual tier hands, bad, they are 272, worse, they are season 3! oh no the horror. oh well anyway...

[strong forum]

That's not bad tho like

You want a bit of every stat

Not exclusively haste/vers

[shadow haven]

the ones I have are crit vers, surely better right?

right now I just really want a new shield

[cobalt seal]

it's like you missed the part of 304 being higher ilvl than the ones you have

[shadow haven]

ahh yeah sorry

thats haste mast

swap haste for crit?

I guess so

I also have one dinar left which I'm gonna use on either SFA, RDM or Cheat Death trinket

[cobalt seal]

1 of those is extremely wrong

[shadow haven]

SFA?

wowhead said it is bis damage trinket!

[cobalt seal]

you can get there

I trust you

[shadow haven]

You have me stumped! Two choices left and I cant decide which

[cobalt seal]

you trolling me right?

[shadow haven]

no

[cobalt seal]

okay

[shadow haven]

im just a noob

[cobalt seal]

try to sell me all 3 trinkets

[empty finch]

cough rdm cough

[shadow haven]

one is very defensive, one is very damage, one is very damage but less damage than other one?

ahh!

I understand

its RDM

[cobalt seal]

No

[shadow haven]

oh

its cheat death?

[cobalt seal]

yes

it's dogshit

[shadow haven]

But i went on Tattman stream and he said "you gotta use the cheat death trinkets buddy"

[empty finch]

Oh, we went for completely wrong, oopsie

[cobalt seal]

tattman is boosted

[shadow haven]

can you guys remind me, RDM says reflect the damage back. Reflect means I still get the damage but deflect means I don't take the damage right?

I need english lessons!

[cobalt seal]

you take the dmg

[shadow haven]

so RDM does not have any defensive features about it?

[cobalt seal]

and reflect it back to enemies

[cobalt seal]

it does have a shield

o_O

[shadow haven]

oh

[cobalt seal]

and a safety proc

that's way better than a cheat trinket that might proc every 8m

[shadow haven]

wait its the opposite

deflect is when you take the damage and reflect it back and reflect is when you dont take damage and reflect it back

[cobalt seal]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-will-smith-gif-15302481

[shadow haven]

I am poor third worlder

you need to explain this english for me

[empty finch]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-hmm-thinking-let-me-think-gif-21499915

verb
1.
(of a surface or body) throw back (heat, light, or sound) without absorbing it.

[cobalt seal]

you get a shield

dmg still does dmg

[shadow haven]

its Dota 2 fault

[cobalt seal]

you reflect dmg to enemies

[shadow haven]

there blademail has reflect but you still take the damage

[cobalt seal]

same thing

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shadow haven]

Right now i'm doing 15-20 keys and pugging heroic raids

So I guess in this content RDM + OWS makes most sense?

[drifting fable]

generally ya. cant go wrong with that

[shadow haven]

Tattman... what a filthy liar

[drifting fable]

rdm better in dungeons than in raid but still fine

[shadow haven]

he said "+2? +20? +200? cant go wrong with cheat death"

[drifting fable]

lmao

[empty finch]

wat now

[drifting fable]

hes not technically wrong… but you are just saying “i intend to die” if you run that

[jagged pier]

amazingly tattman is not the best prot warrior

he just has a group

[shadow haven]

he was number 1 on raider io

[jagged pier]

again

[shadow haven]

how is this not the definitive answer?

[jagged pier]

that just means he has a group

[cobalt seal]

like I said

boosted

[jagged pier]

because u can look at his logs, hes better than most but last season fir a stretch there was a rank 1 prot that had 60% blocked hits, which is aweful

[shadow haven]

what trinkets do you guys run for raid and dungeon content

[jagged pier]

he just had a group

[strong forum]

I run sfa + ows in all content

[jagged pier]

i run rdm and OWs in all content

[strong forum]

If I had upgraded my rdm I'd run that

[drifting fable]

i run sfa and ows in raid yeah

[jagged pier]

probably SFA and OWS when i can upgrade SFA cause i only raid

[shadow haven]

Hmm

hard choice then

if it is truly this divided!

[drifting fable]

its whatever you like the most at those levels tbh

[strong forum]

Exceedingly divided between rdm and ows indeed

[drifting fable]

it wont break the key or wipe the rsid

[shadow haven]

But I appreciate the help. I once asked similar question on the warlock discord, huge insults! I guess it is the class fantasy

[shadow haven]

But everyone said OWS? It was just matter if they had SFA or RDM also

[strong forum]

That's the joke

Just default to rdm + ows

And youre Gucci

Trinkets won't determine your success

Once you get into like 28+ you can look into getting aegis + ows

Or aegis + cheat for extra safety

[shadow haven]

I also have the uhh... 298 terror bag trinket from streets

[strong forum]

I mean it's damage

But nothing noteworthy

Rdm will do more

[shadow haven]

I probably shoulnt have bought shard and used RDM for dungeons and SFA for raids

[strong forum]

It's a solid buy

But if you and your group are good at what you're doing aegis loses a bit of value in mid to low range keys

[sick sentinel]

something like this (just weapon specifically), for mog, but maybe not with wood handle (i'd assume mechagnome would use somthing steel handle), then again, ur mog, and i still like it anyway alot lol

[shadow haven]

hell yeah

how about this

[strong forum]

Mechagnome/10

[jagged pier]

eyes coming through helm/10

[empty finch]

Y'all are using terrible weapons

[shadow haven]

right now i'm trying to make something new to fit the gearglider mount

[empty finch]

Fish or nothing

[cobalt seal]

imagine not using thunderfury

smh

[empty finch]

fish > thunderfury

[strong forum]

Fishfury

[empty finch]

https://gyazo.com/daefb73dc124682b4e1a81513fd08e38

Look at that smack at the end

[graceful cobalt]

hi wich trinkets i should use as Prot Solea + Codex or Solea+howl

[jagged pier]

solea and howl

[graceful cobalt]

ok and if i get OWS that +Solea right?

[jagged pier]

yes

[cobalt seal]

sell codex

[jagged pier]

was literally typing that

[cobalt seal]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-trash-can-hide-jump-to-trash-gif-12324630

[graceful cobalt]

why you thrown your own in the container?

^^

ok thx and codex was after reroll Prot my first trinket i got

[jagged pier]

rather have an empty slot tbh

[graceful cobalt]

yeah as i gear up i was happy about the extra life.

becouse with s2 gear was M+ hard enough

[sick sentinel]

fish mog is legit

its got fish physics

[woven trench]

Hey, im very very new to Prot Warrior, got 2 Legys but only 1 set item atm, as soon as i get pieces i craft all at the catalyst. Is necro a viable option with 2 leggys but no setbonus? I like necro way more then kyrian

[jagged pier]

its still viable

[cobalt seal]

then play necro

[graceful cobalt]

can i upgrade lfr loot to HC? if i got the run

[jagged pier]

and better to get used to necro

but kyrian is better till 2 set

then necro is 📈

[woven trench]

thanks

[mellow bridge]

yes

[graceful cobalt]

thx

[undone verge]

Without tier you prob won’t have 100% uptime on banner, but you will have around 1:30 if you play it right. Once I got 2 set tho It was easy to get just over 2 minutes on banner. All this is with a pretty low haste value tho, so if you have one in the 30s it should be pretty easy to manage banner

[wintry nymph]

only warriors i have seen lately

all kyrian and codex

[mellow bridge]

wild talents

[wintry nymph]

yeap

[blazing condor]

funny how he got all talents wrong except 2

[wintry nymph]

yes

[sand drum]

idk what give me more headache :> trinket or talents :>

[urban portal]

At least I can understand itf and hr

Menace and roar are both so ass

[chrome falcon]

they're also not using reprisal

[sand drum]

👀

[wintry nymph]

he was

on back

and spear on wrists

or other way around

but pretty sure was

[chrome falcon]

reprisal goes on legs/feet

if they had a back legendary, it would have been the wall

reprisal goes on legs/feet because it's a charge legendary and you use your legs to charge

🙂

[lusty tiger]

Not pallys ♿

[mighty valley]

that +15 agi enchantment is clutch, i should start doing that

[chrome falcon]

classic player for sure right

[mighty valley]

wonder if they've got that int enchant for weapon skilling

[modern brook]

[sick sentinel]

leaper on feet is mandatory

how can you jump with no feet

[pallid quiver]

listen i remember agi still gave crot in pandaland

sometimes i still feel the urge to enchant agi

just for crit number go up

[modern brook]

as long as u dont enchant for int ur fine

shit is a dps loss

[waxen orbit]

Wow that is horrific

Put a fucking jump scare warning next time

[wintry nymph]

will do

[lusty tiger]

https://youtu.be/HrpfY95DHmk

This isn’t it but has 10/10 warrior player vibes

[blazing condor]

back when asmon actually got rank ones

[lusty tiger]

How to parse w disclaimers on wiping the raid

[sick sentinel]

he was saying some (justified) but shitty stuff

"i F hate you, i F hope you die"

[mighty valley]

i would not call that

justified

personally

[sick sentinel]

i can understand why he would be so angry

but it doesn't excuse it

[mighty valley]

he's almost certainly playing it up for content

but that makes it worse

can't stand this guy

[sick sentinel]

no, the point were i noped the fuck out of that cluster fuck was they were talking about dude is 300k +in the hole, and then, the girls given a bunch of personal cancer money, and then they are like, well, lets get a fund set up to pay some of the victims back, oh and you can do it in crypto

no red flags and sirens sounding that the entire building is on fire, none at all.

[oblique garnet]

What

[sick sentinel]

twitch drama went to 11, i noped out, it was trending all over twitter for 2 days and still is.

[strong forum]

that wont blow over in 2 days

itll take a bit longer

[minor helm]

The sliker drama has already kind of blown over

[sick sentinel]

yeah, sadly they just have to wait for something bigger and dumber to happen and they'll sweep it under rug more or less

[minor helm]

Gambling is banned on twitch now mostly

And there’s new drama

[sick sentinel]

still tons of radiation fallout from the twitch nuke

[minor helm]

What

[urban portal]

I heard there’s pokimane drama

[oblique garnet]

Now imagine if youtube actually launches better services for their streamers this week/month and twitch will soon become obsolete

[sick sentinel]

no idea who that is more than tip of the iceberg

[minor helm]

Yeah YouTube live is handled by an even more incompetent group than twitch

It’s the worlds easiest layup if they just made their website good

[sick sentinel]

i feel that exact same way about world of warcraft.....

[oblique garnet]

Im convinced the main reason youtube doesnt want their streaming platform to be as big is just because that its not cost effective especially on smaller streamers

[chrome falcon]

twitch is so dogshit atm, i just sat through 5 preroll ads and then 15 minutes later 7 midroll ads

on a streamer i'm subbed to, who has ads turned off

fortunately twitch doesn't run midrolls in poland for some reason so you can just VPN yourself over there but still

[minor helm]

The real hack is to just get twitch turbo

[sick sentinel]

they got twitch ultra or some shit that gives no ads for any streamer, and i think its uh 11..99 usd a month?

[oblique garnet]

Or you know ublock

[sick sentinel]

i might have gotten that at one point but not now

[chrome falcon]

does ublock work on twitch anymore

[minor helm]

Is ublock pretty consistent with it?

[chrome falcon]

i'm pretty sure most of the mainstream adblockers don't

[minor helm]

I have like 3 or 4 on now and get them still

And used to be you could refresh out of them now it resets your ads

[oblique garnet]

I dont remember if you had to add a script to it or not but i dont get any ads on twitch or anyplace

[sick sentinel]

cat and mouse game with ad blockers

[minor helm]

Idk the money thrown around to the big streamers seems way lucrative enough to put the effort in

[sick sentinel]

eventually one of thems just gunna flat out win but probably cat

[minor helm]

Bad website seems like the worst hill to die on

[oblique garnet]

I mean yes and no

Big streamers are good

But small streamers just lose you money

[urban portal]

Ye

I’m fairly sure you can drain like 100 bucks a day from Amazon

[minor helm]

Maybe it’s easier to eat the operating costs of that as the biggest platform but I’d think a business seeing a competitor do it better would strike some kind of innovation in their work

[urban portal]

Just streaming to no one

But I think YouTube does want to be big

Or maybe YouTube only wants big names

Like vtubers

[minor helm]

Seems so odd to me YouTube’s biggest marketing tactic to streamers is “hey here’s a big bag of money and 5 twitch streamers all molested some women so it’s bad over there”

[drifting fable]

doesnt youtube already operate at a loss or something

[chrome falcon]

[urban portal]

Idk what the exact numbers are

But streaming to sub 50 viewers has to be a dps down

[drifting fable]

lmao

[urban portal]

At our company we lose money intentionally

To make money else where

Probably same with yt and twitch

[oblique garnet]

Doubt it

[drifting fable]

i wouldnt doubt it it was true in the past

not sure today

[oblique garnet]

Its one of the most used platforms in the world

If not the #1

[chrome falcon]

yeah i mean loss leaders are just standard business practice it's just funny to hear twitch whining about it when they're owned by the big A

[cursive root]

Hey any tips to do the mini boss pack in gambit ?

[drifting fable]

skip it

[urban portal]

I wonder if bandwidth got cheaper

Over the years

Probably since discord streaming is near perfect

[sick sentinel]

wait, which guy in gamibt?

if u mean this guy, u just walk past him, or jump over the fence

[cursive root]

The zulgamox, last pack in murlocs area

[cursive root]

It's that bad to do that pack ?

[drifting fable]

not bad but slow

and you dont need it

[oblique garnet]

Its easy to kill and gives good count

No reason to not play it

[drifting fable]

to each their own. youll find many skip that pack

[sick sentinel]

i did this in my gambit, we died soon after, i think i did, he definitely ran to that group and got some assistance

and then i ran 15 streets today that went really well, only 1 death the other warrior to "rotten food" music boss

[modern brook]

Fear lol

[left temple]

there's a spot way off to the right that you can pull the zulgamux pack to

[spiral warren]

Or just pull it back to where the double scale binders are too

[pallid quiver]

Kill your DPS, I agree

bonus points the lower they key it is, the more likely an errant dps is to pull seventeen more murloc packs when you pull the miniboss pack

[sick sentinel]

if i miss pulling the first giant, i just pull the second giant and then you can pull that pack to east side of map where giant ends his patrol, can't run back and aggro crap easy

[tired night]

Why do people avoid direhorn + cats in high streets?

[mortal brook]

not great % for the time

[tired night]

Thanks

[mellow bridge]

Not true

The dogs are the issue

And the miniboss on the bridge

Left is popular for very very high keys, you skip miniboss and dogs and play dire horn with cats and 2-3 infiltrators at once

Very dangerous pull tho and wouldn't rly recommend it for pugs

[tired night]

I usually see direhorn omitted from that pull, thats the heart of the question: why omit the direhorn?

Although its also cancer for melee so i think thats a good reason to skip it

[modern brook]

what are the garbage weeklies im supposed to do at this point?

[sick sentinel]

i think they want me to go to ardeanweild

[dawn canyon]

Anima omegalul

[lusty tiger]

bolster week is always a nice reminder that prot war >

casual 1mil dam with rdm

[sick sentinel]

i need to do that and finish torghast farming for souls to make the abombination thingy

i also have real protection warrior questions

this guy, i'm not sure how you're meant to deal with him

[lusty tiger]

im still not blocking nearly as many melee hits as i should be

[lusty tiger]

kill if you cant skip. is he killing you?

[mighty valley]

i thought this guy was pretty whatever after the nerfs

[sick sentinel]

normally, i don't know how to real fight him without just turn him into tunnel and eat cleaves

[mighty valley]

but i've been on vacation for two weeks

[lusty tiger]

that works fine

[sick sentinel]

i turn him into tunnel away from group, so it only hits me

[lusty tiger]

what is the issue?

[sick sentinel]

so im just meant to SB and DR the cleaves?

it hurts

[lusty tiger]

there should only be 1 guy to heal

but ya block, demo

[mighty valley]

also the floor explodes so watch that

[sick sentinel]

i dunno if the game designer is intending that you fight him in the room hes in its got like xploding tiles or something, and i seem to remember getting 1 shot by it

[mighty valley]

yes that's intended, you just move to a non-exploding tile

[sick sentinel]

quaking could be annoying on the final boss if its not timed correctly

[mighty valley]

it can't happen when you're getting warped iirc

they fixed most of those "fuck you" quaking moments pretty quickly

[sick sentinel]

quaking still occurs ,( at leastin GD that i saw) post key completion, does damage

[mighty valley]

yeah i've seen it in iron docks

[oblique garnet]

Shield block

Legit just dont drop it and it doesnt do much

On any real keys you skip it because no point in playing it

[sick sentinel]

its a 17

i learned how to correctly do the no invis effect skip in the hallway immediately after zulg

[cinder storm]

Just make the habit of skipping it, you normally use 3 invis pots on upper either way, first add, that add before medivh and going to chess

I don't know if it still jumps to a dps but specially on fort weeks even on a 17 it might delete one dps

[trim bay]

Been needed

Nerfed

But yea your above skips are Gucci. Or a hunter can try to invis and pull for the 4567 time not realising that they need a speed boost or that it's shit and just use a pot. Every gambit ever.

[sick sentinel]

there is 2 demons there (they look like devil demons) but the slip mechanic is giga trolo

you wouldnt pull for at least 1 vampire?

[graceful cobalt]

AS Necro wich Convernant we choose? And wich Conduits

[pallid quiver]

i'm pretty sure you've already chosen the covenant

Marileth's the best all around and any others are only technically better in sims, so just sit on Marileth.

Most important conduits are the LS rage generation conduit, Banner STR conduit, Shield Wall cd reduction conduit, Ashen Juggernaut,

uh, the one that gives you str after being healed, uh

listen i'm in class at the moment

[graceful cobalt]

yeah i have choose Marileth

thx

[pallid quiver]

You'll also have a choice between the rallying cry conduit and safeguard

safeguard's technically more damage reduction throughout a key, but rallying cry sometimes lets you save suicidal pug dps

[graceful cobalt]

thx a lot

[little marsh]

what is a more noticeable improvement with mythic token, 311 sword (I have 291), 311 shield (i have 298 with leech) or 304 the nine trinket (I have it at 278)

the trinket right?

but I could try to pug it, this week or any other, the nine is doable in pugs in MM 🤔

[trim bay]

Shield

[little marsh]

is it really that noticeable? its like 200 armor and 300 block

[jagged pier]

298 to 311 is massive

on shield

its like 6% extra DR or something

[little marsh]

and the dreadlords shield skin is supercool also 🤔

[bleak depot]

how much is a leech proc worth on a Chest? Havin trouble with my vault 😄

[strong forum]

Show

[blazing condor]

main stat > secondary stats > tertiary stats

and dom socket above all

[trim bay]

for Grimrail like 26ish plus the overseers star tto truck. i find it very hard to charge weave because the melee/group always get cleaved. is there any ideas on how to keep mitigation up and not cleave the group

[bleak depot]

This is my vault. Kinda struggling with the choices. I'm not considering the trinket, because I can buy Annhyldes next reset.

https://raider.io/characters/eu/ravencrest/Faerrox this is my Rio page for gear reference

Boots, legs and weapon token are not really needed aswell. So its basically chest, Cloak or the 6 tokens. My current chest can be upgraded to max this week aswell

[strong forum]

Easy chest pick

Like omega easy

[bleak depot]

Would you convert it to tier Set for different stats or keep Crit Mastery?

[lofty widget]

Charge Them when they dash through you

[strong forum]

Convert to tier

[sick sentinel]

always convert higher ilvl into set

[sick sentinel]

less than 1200probably less than 1k pwars in EU at 2kio sadge

[strong forum]

Casuals don't play this season

That's why R1 title will be omega hard to get

[sick sentinel]

i only want the KSM and DK mount the lvl a classic dk one

[strong forum]

KSM should be doable or

Leveling a dk on classic takes like 2hrs if you're chilling

To get the mount

You can just create it and go

Don't need a 55 prior for that

[sick sentinel]

my keystoning has been extremely hit and miss lately,

ran 15 upper the other day and it took 56 minutes, failed a 14 and then the subsequent 13 after words, 3 chest 12, 2 chest 15 we 2 chest the 15 cuz its streets lol

so, your mileage may vary IG lol.

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern hi friend, hope you're well

[ionic fern]

What happened to ily. 😦

Did i get demoted?

But, i'm well.

How are you?

[minor helm]

[mortal brook]

he hopes you are a well cuz he really digs you

[sick sentinel]

im just trying to avoid upper once again....

developing negative bias towards this dungeon

[warm plinth]

I'm up too late. I missed the ily window

I should be sleeping

[sick sentinel]

no idea who ily is off top of head

[ionic fern]

Go to bed. 😦
Ily.

[sick sentinel]

i know of, i love you, but that doesn't seem like it fits here

[ionic fern]

It fits here.

[sick sentinel]

is there special crap with zulgamax that after the team breaks the shield.. is it only me that can see the interupt for "drain life"

[warm plinth]

Ily good night friend

[sick sentinel]

i think the way it works is bubble protects it from interup while bubble holds, but im unsure if its only i can interupt it like boss 2 mists

[tropic gorge]

A lotof dps don't understand the mechanics with the shield and blood drain

You'll often be the only one to kick that

At least that's how it goes in a lot of my groups. Once you get into the 17 to 19 or 20 range, that'll change and dps will kick it much more often

You can also attempt to tell dps to kick it.

And you're right, it can't be kicked while the shield holds. On my ui using plater, the color of the cast bar changes when the shield drops

[sick sentinel]

i think there lies perfect examples of in: upper, way too sparse and linear, and halls of attonement is too populated and open

[tropic gorge]

I used to love Kara back in bc. It was a top tier place to go for me.
Now, however. It's annoying. I've had more groups go bust in Kara than anywhere else this season. Esp lower and the Menagerie guardian

[sick sentinel]

karazhan is a spoopy mind fuck place too with spooky music and ghosts and stuff, does a good job of putting you in the mood

[tropic gorge]

It's a magic castle that can move wherever and whenever mediv wants

How is that not awesome af!

But the best part. Is flamewreath

[sick sentinel]

id call it more like wizard tower keep, a secret ivory tower

even has some scary lookin unused raid enterance at the top behind a gate, where you exit maybe?

karazhan on some level that isn't just bad experiences running it (tbc or now) scares the shit out of me, very hard thing to pin down why

[blazing condor]

Kara is just spooky in general

All from the area

To the hidden shit underground that was never in the game

[mortal brook]

except for boomy leggo in legion

[sick sentinel]

and then you got a fiery skeletal dragon... a crazed mage.... and a demon summoning the burning legion in... sounds fine totally not a problem

[modern brook]

it is built out of spooky rocks and there g-g-g-g-g-g-ghosts

[uneven mason]

It's built out of the world knowing that medivh would eventually be born

*gasp - sounds like a 7D chess move by the jailer again

[modern brook]

my favorite part of shadowlands is when they spit in arthus' face and say we did it we ended this story that was already appopriately ended in 2009 which also re-ended a story that was apparopriately ended before this game existed.

was a very good ending to this expansion

[uneven mason]

I'm glad that they didn't do more with arthas

[tropic gorge]

I thought the Arthas ending was weak and the character deserved better

He was an extremely pivotal character for the start of wow and the backstory for game events. To just be..... Tossed seem so weak

The behind the scenes 7d chess stuff was all good and well, but in my mind warcraft started because of Arthas and his actions

But the banshee got her happy ending. I guess that was the important part! Keeping the waifu in a good place for her come back story later

[sick sentinel]

theres always retcons

[uneven mason]

She got the ending she did all this shit to try and avoid

Being trapped in the maw was what she was trying to get out of

[tropic gorge]

She survived. She will be back

[uneven mason]

I hope not

[tropic gorge]

I was hoping to be rid of her forever

However That being said, a game like hadees, a rogue lite would be perfect for where sylv is now

Blizz has an opportunity there

[barren walrus]

How viable is going Kyrian for Mythic plus in the 15-20 range if 100% PUGing it? I know most of the guides mention that Necrolord is far superior with optimal play, but wondering how close they are if unlikely to maintain 100% uptime on the banner

[lusty tiger]

Not even close

Imo just fleshcraft would make it better

[lofty widget]

Its viable for sure and you can play Any covenant for those keys, but yeah necro is miles ahead

[barren walrus]

Gotcha! If that much better, then no reason to go anything else. Thank you both

[tropic gorge]

I run kyrian prot, as I also pvp and sometimes pve dps. It's fine

The shield is super strong from the other cov, and banner is better. However you can run any cov you want, even 100 percent pug.
If you're trying for truly high keys, probably 22 or higher you should consider having banner instead

But for everything else run what ya brung

Plus, nothing is cooler than spearing mobs that like to leap, because pug dps won't stack lol

[lusty tiger]

Spear is amazing for horses in lower

[sick sentinel]

most crucial part of playing Pwar in m+ is remembering that this is basically you with SB up.

[lusty tiger]

Death knights with DRW up

[tired night]

How does commander zo'far link work? Trying to figure out how people play peacekeepers on the miniboss (streets before console to last boss)

[undone verge]

The beam that targets 2 players and pulls them together?

It just targets the two furthest away players (from each other)

[tired night]

Well yeah but from vod im looking at it seems like they juat walk into each other and break it, i was under the impression this kills you

[undone verge]

It gives you a massive dot

[tired night]

Yeah idk then, they seem to just walk into each other and they are fine

[undone verge]

Probably popped immunity or it bugged

[tired night]

No immunes used

And it was intentional i think

Something about grip in comms

Maybe priest tech?

https://www.twitch.tv/lemiike/v/1596558218?sr=a&t=7045s

In case someone has better eyes

[chrome falcon]

I’d just play necro no matter what

A bad necro has 50% uptime

A good kyrian has 0% uptime

Spear of bastion is just not a valuable ability in terms of survival which is what your actual job is as a tank

And if you play banner, you learn that you’re making mistakes much quicker which is valuable

But for 15-20 you could play with no covenant (which is how I view playing Kyrian lol)

[urban portal]

Venthyr

[undone verge]

Yes

[urban portal]

That’s actually no cov

[chrome falcon]

The idea that you need to be “optimal” for necro to best is also just wrong

You can be pretty bad and still have 70% uptime as long as you know how to button mash during last stand

[wary pasture]

@chrome falcon , i just watched your YouTube vid on banner, recently swapped to prot. I commented some questions on it, would it be easier if I just ask them here?

[lusty tiger]

Ask away

[undone verge]

Venthyr best covenant

[wary pasture]

3 questions, question 1 what addon/profile are you using for your damage numbers that scroll on the left and right of your toon. Question 2, should I pop avatar on CD, unless banner/last stand are almost back up? And 3, should I always hold banner for last stand?

[chrome falcon]

Yeah go for it

Avatar on CD unless it’ll overlap outburst

And my damage numbers are uhh

Fuck I can’t remember

I’ll check when I’m home lol

[cinder nova]

You're not holding banner for anything.

[chrome falcon]

Is it prat? It might be part

[cinder nova]

You press it, maintain it.

If you have LS you press it.

It's a DPS up even without banner.

[lusty tiger]

Nah

Only LS with banner up

[cinder nova]

I'd only bother holding if I'm like 3s from banner and for some reason it dropped

Fucking bad take

[lusty tiger]

Nah trolling

U are

His banners will be scuffed without LS

And he’ll think it’s bad

[cinder nova]

If you can't hold banner without LS it's already fucked mate

That's just dogshit play

[lusty tiger]

It’s not a vaccum

For all functional purposes you are going to want the extra banner time from last stand

Wait for rez, wait for group to catchup to closing bossfight, get cc or sleep

[chrome falcon]

It’s situational

If my banner is down for 30s and I know I can hold my next banner up without LS

I just pop LS

It just depends what’s coming up, if there’s any downtime

[undone verge]

Pressing banner on CD is risky

[chrome falcon]

Yes

[wary pasture]

Gotcha, so starting off I’ll make sure to use together until I get comfortable

[undone verge]

It’s technically better cause it gives more damage for the Dps, but if you have to stand there waiting for something you are going to suffer for the next 1:30

[cinder nova]

You aren't pressing banner on CD, no.

But I slam LS unless I know for some reason I have banner soon and I don't have banner up.

[lusty tiger]

With good banner uptime you can pre plan it dropping and then you refresh

[cinder nova]

Don't drop it, that's brainlet.

Dead GCD

[lusty tiger]

There is rp and long walking spots

What gcd are you pressing charging into a fresh pack

[cinder nova]

If you're pre-planning dropping it in combat that's clownshoes.

[lusty tiger]

Not in combat

I’m talking overall

Like every moment u are in the instance

[cinder nova]

I mean we know you can have easily 85%+ uptime on most dungeons atm

Still kinda goober

[lusty tiger]

Yep but part of being able to do the 85% is not wasting banner during rp if u can help

[chrome falcon]

I pop banner on CD in grimrail because I know there’s no downtime

[cinder nova]

🤔 ...why? Are you consistently dropping sub 15s every 2m or are you just pressing it when it's low?

I would've thought of all people Matt you wouldn't need to press it more than 2-3 times.

[lusty tiger]

Mastery buff

And slime

[undone verge]

Gotta get that Kevin uptime

[cinder nova]

I guess it's not bad if you're sub 15s or close to it, but pressing banner at 21s feels bad

Although maybe that's why I always have to slave for the #1 spot on some parses last season, I was just holding it to maintain uptime for a lot of fights with dogshit downtime or running around like Luhivim

[lusty tiger]

I am world best Lihu lfr

[cinder nova]

I have no idea why, but Halon always made me want to kill myself even though the free charges and perfect uptime seem to be a no brainer.

[lusty tiger]

Same with halon LFR

I hated it in mythic

Made me want to reroll

Mythic halon you can’t even be in melee range of the boss 99% of it

At least not the way my raid was doing it

[undone verge]

Halon was always felt really good, but banner would always get kinda close to dropping

[lusty tiger]

I just couldn’t be in range of the boss maybe we had too many melee

It was LITTERED with people

[undone verge]

I am the true king of lfr

[cinder nova]

🤔 Do you not just stand in half the mechs?

I legit don't feel missiles or the mote lines

Well that's a lie, if there's overlap it's bad

But solo I just keep whacking

[lusty tiger]

We don’t really have any tank healers

Idk if that’s normal

[cinder nova]

Sounds like your healers aren't healing you is all.

@waxen orbit had the same issue, his healers were legit trolling him, but also I noticed in like 25s I was with an hpriest that was never topping me like he was waiting for me to death strike or something

Like bro I'm warr I do mit not healing

In general I notice a lot of pug healers have no idea how to operate outside of bear/dk

Because they're such heal-heavy specs

[undone verge]

Usually I have 80% healing taken from myself 19 from the healer

In like 22+

[cinder nova]

Well you're still gonna dominate that since DPS and heals need a lot more direct attention especially on big group claps

But sometimes they just don't bother topping and my balls sweat

[undone verge]

I mean it depends on the situation, like if your below 50 they should be direct healing you but if your like 70 or so you can just shockwave with a burst of rage and usually get yourself pretty healthy

[rocky kraken]

where can i find some routes for 22+?

[cinder nova]

I mean, it's on packs where tank damage is pretty heavy they'll barely be keeping me alive.

Like, I know we do the same damage at 10% as we do 100% technically, but fuck all that noise of not being topped when I'm getting my ass beat.

I'm not kidding, on some triple pulls I was doing like 18K HPS

[chrome falcon]

I can and have done grimrail with 1 cast but it’s still a group dps increase to pop it on CD

[cinder nova]

I was losing my fucking mind trying to stay up

Homie was barely putting up 10K DPS with Boon

I was actually malding.

[undone verge]

What key level

[lusty tiger]

Best is rushing ahead and 3x pulling mythic raid packs

Pop everything and say “look I’m a bdk”

[waxen orbit]

God don't remind me

Healers have grown weak in the gluttonous age of DPS healer "meta" encouragement and BDKs

Healers who spam smite:

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-avalon-play-avalon-gif-24241051

Healers who actively try to keep everyone in the group tapped to at least 80% and understand where and when damage is going to be coming out and how to effectively prepare for it:

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-nightmare315-gif-24908881

[chrome falcon]

This dude looks like he’s better at wow though

That’s basically me

[waxen orbit]

Fair point

[dawn canyon]

Spamming smite >>>

[minor helm]

Any smiters?

[spiral warren]

Only spell my priest has bound

[modern brook]

Healer is an outdated role tbh

[lusty tiger]

5 tank kind of world we live in now

[cobalt seal]

[cinder nova]

25

[prisma crane]

tbh healers should be doing as much damage as possible regardless, it just shouldnt come at the expense of others

and understanding how tanks work is a part of that

[lusty tiger]

For sure they need to know dungeon dam profile, their tank, and their rotation because it not like the party is dying 100% of the time

There’s always room for damage button filler

Also divine star being 11/10 op

[spiral warren]

Is divine star “op” ?

🤔

[prisma crane]

no lol

[spiral warren]

That’s what I was thinking lol

[sick sentinel]

healer to unknown on first boss of 15 upper "god you suck"

didn't bother figuring out what it was about, but it was a pug

[undone verge]

Tbh healer should be maximizing dmg, since they have to sacrifice more damage to heal me than I have to sacrifice to do more healing myself since that number shouldn’t be any

[tired night]

True

[prisma crane]

its not so much that, it's that overhealing is a waste

so knowledge of fights is super important

also why good healers track DK resources so they know if they have to worry about them or not

[tired night]

Luckily dk has infinite resources so no need fir that

[oblique garnet]

They dont

If bdk died

Its his fault

100% of the times

[minor helm]

[sage yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/perctalktoem-gif-22491877

[urban portal]

What if he gets globalled cuz 2 autos made it through parry

Is that just a modern tragedy

[oblique garnet]

No

[cobalt seal]

Wdym

Proc purg

Press HS

Isnt that correct

Bdk is really hard in high keys

[oblique garnet]

Yep

Bdk is so hard that you can solo tank mythic inerva with 0 issues

Like you still have to play the game to do that

But you wont die unless you make missplays

So bdk who dies needs to git gud

Same can be applied to most tanks tho

[sick sentinel]

the main problem was i got yeeted to the second knockback on 2nd platform last boss upper

few clown moments, stuck the curator in a whole bunch of blots for evocate and then got killed.

oh, yeah, quaking ontop of the entire group as mana wyrm dies, i move and butt pulled a guy while healer dead

[shadow haven]

there it is

there it is

full kit wanker achieved

[minor helm]

[lusty tiger]

Ur THE GUY

https://tenor.com/view/guy-im-the-guy-spy-kids-the-guy-gif-24510920

Goddamit I watched that spy kids movie so many times

[shadow haven]

For a moment I got worried you were one of the goblin girls i've harrassed

[lusty tiger]

Haha

[sick sentinel]

perfect

[shadow haven]

wish king mechagons helm was optainable

[sick sentinel]

i discovered that thee is a ton of extra appearances from the vendors i can learn, so, more anima giriding iguess

[modern brook]

I'm torn between congratulating you for completing your goal and berating you for enjoying mechagnome

[cobalt seal]

2nd one

[sick sentinel]

Mechagnome enjoyer

just 3 allied races left to do

[lilac bloom]

is it possible to wear all high ilevel gear without using leggo

and do raids

[blazing condor]

Possible? Yes

[lilac bloom]

ohh ok..

[blazing condor]

You can raid without a plugged in keyboard too if youd want

But its severely stupid to do it

[lilac bloom]

just that leggo is a let down for ilvel

[blazing condor]

I know the feeling but the legendary effect will always trump anything else

[lilac bloom]

leggo ilevel 291 while the rest of my gear is 304

just a thought if its possible to raid without leggo..

can we still do it

[drifting fable]

why youd do less damage without the legendary power

literally makes no sense

like dog said tho you can probably do it but jesus man

[lilac bloom]

just a thought

dont mean to say to do it

[blazing condor]

Yeah you can do it

The legendary isnt imperative to our survival in raids

You can pretty easily raid without a legendary

[cobalt seal]

you can also raid naked

[sick sentinel]

incorrect pants are required in wow

cant transmog them off

[cobalt seal]

ofc you can

just use small shorts

[sick sentinel]

farming out this on any dude that can wear a shield atm, also 200%boomer vision activated

[chrome falcon]

you can probably clear HC

with no legendaries and no tier sets

at this point

[mighty valley]

yeah i couldn't tell if the question was "can you do this and live" or "is this better"

the answers are "sure" and "very no"

[sick sentinel]

no talents eeven

[mighty valley]

you only need some of your dps to be competent on heroic

[sick sentinel]

EZ clap

[grave wedge]

can intervene be made into a @cursor mines still making me click target but the heroic leap and charge i set up ones work just fine

[mighty valley]

intervene is a targeted ability, you can make a mouseover macro

wait it's weird that charge is working, charge also needs a target

[sick sentinel]

thats why i wantedit

[grave wedge]

actually let me confirm that on a target dummy when trying it in oribos mousing over player its telling me invalid target for charge that is

[cinder nova]

It's mouseover

Cursor is for aoe effects

Or just ground effects

Leap, flamestrike, blizzard, rain of fire, etc.

[grave wedge]

Ty

[opaque shale]

I just started playing my pwar in keys and I was expecting berserker rage to work like lichborne for the infiltrator sleep puddles, but it wasn’t letting me use it during the sleep and when I tried pressing it and then running over a puddle that also didn’t work. Am I just an idiot or does it not work on the puddles?

[mighty valley]

It doesn't break sleep

Check the tooltip

[opaque shale]

Ah okay I guess I just assumed when I saw fear that it was also sleep

Ty

[mighty valley]

There's a lot of fears and incapacitates tho

You can break the Maiden of Virtue repentance without getting the dot for example

[opaque shale]

Ok that’s nice

[trim bay]

ok lads in GD

the starting trash

you tank against a wall. when they do their charge they are allready standing ontop of you. how are you suppose to charge when they do? they are way to close.

i cant use reprisal properly due to the cleave wacking melee

or im doing it really wrong

[undone verge]

I usually just tank them in the center of the room but kinda close to a wall so you still have that range to charge them, but idk I really dont spend a lot of time in GD cause I hate it

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern hi ily

[pallid quiver]

they also can't move after charging for a few seconds if i'm thinking of the right mobs, so you just, uh, walk away and charge them

honestly it's some of the easiest trash to charge in the entire dungeon as a result

[tropic gorge]

When I form groups I always bring a mele. I like having a dk with me for intervene

When someone is forming a pug, I ask for a mele

[trim bay]

yea but on a 27 when you have 2 on you that charge at different times the other will cleave a melee which is a 1 shot.

unless im being retarded

that wont work

[silver merlin]

@worn bear

[cobalt seal]

The charge isnt that frequent

That you cant charge

[sick sentinel]

i've been playing pwar since literal 8.0 you can ask the yellow/orange names here, anyways, short story, im bad at wow, always have been, love the little RP-esque things fitting into frantic combat, and yeah, that stepping into a sleep circle and not being able to BR out of it is just total feels bads.
On top of you look like an idiot for stepping in it in the first place im pretty sure it causes you to stop blocking attacks which is main way we reduce damage, so, its like turbo mega bad for us to get hit by it. Healer can dispell it if they are fast i think?

[mellow bridge]

you cant charge because they oneshot your dps if you go out to charge cro

unless you can communicate with em so they move out for a bit

awful trash in high keys for us

[lusty tiger]

When we stop taking intervene, I don’t think I’ll ever invite another melee to my dungeon

[sick sentinel]

what no, i have a very simple 4 head approach to dungeons though

1. Never ever don't bring lust/brez 2. Don't stack classes (comes down to more like spec for me but whatever) unless they are broking f'ing op. 3. 2 melee 1 dps if shit needs to be interrupted, 2 ranged 1 melee if shit needs to be not stood in (melee has shorter CD on interupt in general). addendum, 4: warlock has cookie heal for 25% hp instant 3 charges, INSTANT INVITE at good ilvl (rogue has something similiar for pvp talent, you can create a bottle of wine basically and give it to another player, maybe they could have a soul well lke thing they drop and its for pve?)

[topaz field]

u have more than enough time to charge it feels like an internal cd of 8-10 seconds

just tank them like a man an whine less

[mellow bridge]

?

the issue isnt their charge

lmfao

[topaz field]

u literally said

their charge is the reason u cannot charge

which is not true

[mellow bridge]

maybe try reading that again

[topaz field]

"you cant charge because they oneshot your dps if you go out to charge cro"

[mellow bridge]

yes

[topaz field]

am i daydreaming?

[mellow bridge]

YOU cant charge

the warrior

[topaz field]

and what did i say?

[mellow bridge]

i didnt even mention their charge

[topaz field]

exactly that u can

[mellow bridge]

brother

[topaz field]

well what else would be the reason to kill your dps friends