you need to do 991 damage total
#protection
urban portal
strong forum
Cutoff gna be like 3.1k, maybe more
toxic pewter
thats stil llow
shut summit
maybe for eu xd
cobalt seal
Cutoff gna be like 3.1k, maybe more
nah
strong forum
Yes
cobalt seal
unless people dont play alts
oblique garnet
its already 2.9k
rotund sluice
week 10 not too bad
strong forum
This week it'll go above 3k
lofty widget
it's gonna stagnate after this week
strong forum
100%
cobalt seal
people haven't do shit with alts
strong forum
People won't do shit with alts, and the last tyr week is gonna be massive
For the last people tryna push for max score and lots of people pushing for cutoff
chrome falcon
what's the last tyr week
strong forum
Scroll up like 5 messages
rotund sluice
is it confirmed that the season is 12 weeks total?
oblique garnet
No
strong forum
No but its heavily speculated
minor helm
strong forum
Given that DF is supposed to release this year
rotund sluice
so then the answer to "what is the last tyr week" is: "nobody knows"
strong forum
And that this is supposed to be a short season
minor helm
If season is 12 weeks that gives us 7 more weeks of this season
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel Wanna come do some for fun keys?
minor helm
That math doesn’t check out
strong forum
That math doesn’t check out
Why wouldn't it, it lines up with 2 weeks pre-patch + df release this year
cobalt seal
dawn canyon
Sure but im gonna also play tank
stop poach 
oblique garnet
Im gonna speedrun this grimrail real quick
dawn canyon
if gg leaves me i will go play league, this is a threat
ngl
didnt notice
i looked at top of leaderboard
usually u are there
coral marsh
Isn't leg in bracer also better for banner uptime with more neck haste?
lofty widget
thats an irrelevant amount of haste for banner
cobalt seal
Isn't leg in bracer also better for banner uptime with more neck haste?
overthinking stats
coral marsh
And while you don't want haste verse in every slot, weapons, rings, 2 tier sets, cloak and bracer can already not be 304 dungeon haste verse.
cobalt seal
if you spend less time looking at what stats drops from dungeon and go to a dummy and increase banner uptime. It would be 100% better time spent
coral marsh
can you still use stygia socket for legendaries?
drifting fable
dont legendaries come with sockets
mighty valley
legendaries that can get sockets get them free
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel Aight what am i inviting
dawn canyon
<@456226577798135808> Aight what am i inviting
a paladin 
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel What is your bnet
coral marsh
how is the garrosh trinket from sanctum
left temple
probably is bugged
dawn canyon
there was also a bunch of cn items that didnt wanna get socketed
will be fixed soonish ig
shut summit
lofty widget
did he improve his banner uptime yet
shut summit
south zealot
not sure
sick sentinel
Zamn
south zealot
kept 100% uptime on the miniboss in streets
sick sentinel
Full bis
south zealot
right before last boss
south zealot
https://i.imgur.com/cLHVNGy.png
also this is gamer asf
sick sentinel
how is the garrosh trinket from sanctum
No mainstat :/ and crit
south zealot
theres 3 other trinkets in sanctum youd much rather have
lofty widget
well 4
mighty valley
lmao i was thinking of OWS as the "garrosh trinket"
sick sentinel
For lower keys its fine for doing more damage
drifting fable
smh
south zealot
whats the fourth
drifting fable
thats saurfang
south zealot
the auto attack one?
drifting fable
i love sfa 
drifting fable
wonder if it sims weird
drifting fable
doesnt seem like it would
south zealot
jk
drifting fable
south zealot
LMFAO
deep solar
should I dinar/upgrade defense matrix or the nine aegis
south zealot
depends
if ur doing really high keys then do aegis
if ur not do matrix
really high as in like 26+
strong forum
https://i.imgur.com/cLHVNGy.png
Disgusting, I want it
jagged pier
close enough :Sadge:
strong forum
Disgusting, I want it
strong forum
Well apart from that
jagged pier
one of our best ST apprently
oblique garnet
Oof
deep steppe
What would you guys recommend for my 2nd trinket? I have OWS. Plan on doing a few early mythic bosses and maybe some keys in the 20-22 range.
zealous willow
RDM
toxic pewter
smh
zealous willow
Bruh why being warr is bad for ppl , im having hard time into geting to 22 keys dk swarm is real
mighty valley
people want comfort meta picks
strong forum
Absolutely not
left temple
Just don’t tell them to watch sense if he’s in upper
strong forum
22 should be a cakewalk
left temple
lord have mercy
sick sentinel
baby keys once again but i did a 12 ID just now some chad warrior
zealous willow
the most tragic thing i saw is m16 key names DK TANK for 16 WTF??????
sick sentinel
very easy except he got really mad that with shaman and mage in group no lust for like, 20 seonds on first boss
mighty valley
yeah people demand meta dps for like, a 15 lmao
dawn canyon
thats why ppal cant do streets above 13 !!!!!!
oblique garnet
easiest big pulls in any dungeon
strong forum
Hm
strong forum
In our 24 nobody was even close to 20k
oblique garnet
But yeah you cant do maiden corridor as 5 tanks XD
dawn canyon
broom
chrome falcon
strong forum
Nvm apparently I had 19k, cro had 20 and klly 22k
dawn canyon
lost to cro
chrome falcon
sounding kinda washed there nomer
edgy bone
Hi guys did the pelagos souldbind change, it doesnt look the same as icyveins
chrome falcon
pelagos is kyrian
dawn canyon
Hi guys did the pelagos souldbind change, it doesnt look the same as icyveins
doesnt matter go necro
chrome falcon
kyrian is bad
strong forum
To be precise, it was 20.4k from me, 21k vdh, 23.7k bdk
dawn canyon
To be precise, it was 20.4k from me, 21k vdh, 23.7k bdk
why number go up now
sussy
chrome falcon
only 600 behind the purple class
edgy bone
Kyrian my fav tho just for flavor
strong forum
Cuz I checked active dps
chrome falcon
dawn canyon
Kyrian my fav tho just for flavor
kyrian tastes like damage loss
chrome falcon
also
dawn canyon
massive one at that
chrome falcon
if you really insist on playing the worse covenant
strong forum
only 600 behind the purple class
Uncapped aoe says hi
chrome falcon
at least play the right soulbind
pelagos is stinky
at least play mik for spear CD
strong forum
Pelagos is insanely weaker than mikanikos
edgy bone
Ok I will swap to Mikan
strong forum
If you play kyrian, you literally can't play anything but mikan
edgy bone
ty
cobalt seal
lost to cro
edgy bone
I like kyrian haha
strong forum
Which is fine
But
Necro is inarguably better, but also harder and more demanding
But it's a game afterall
strong forum
Ya
edgy bone
strong forum
Can't do much wrong there
strong forum
No
edgy bone
ok ty
mighty valley
if you jump down platforms or whatever you can dismiss him
so his weird pathing doesn't pull anything
strong forum
The only time bron can aggro is during stealth skips
edgy bone
How do I dismiss
strong forum
Right click his buff
mighty valley
right click the buff
strong forum
Bron is just a buff
edgy bone
ty 🙂
strong forum
He can only pull by knocking mobs into other mobs by spawning
Or when you try to skip something and don't dismiss him
distant crystal
i think you can just ignore bron's aggro on stealth skips most of the time
he doesn't get you in combat iirc
edgy bone
Is there a free quest nowadays to just unlock all soulbinds without doing kyrian campaign
i'm 80 renown but 2/9 campaign
edgy bone
o
chrome falcon
you haven't even tried kyrian warrior but you're committing to it
i respect the uhh
dedication i guess
love watching 30 tyrannical wreck rude sense's hp to... 95%
tanks are so insane right now that abilities either do literally 0 damage, or reduce you to 5% hp but it doesn't matter because you immediately full heal
delicate kraken
putting spear down is really easy for me
Necro? No I don't think so, to hard for me
sharp zenith
pff im still trynna get good at banner uptime
undone verge
real warriors play venthyr
dawn canyon
pff im still trynna get good at banner uptime
video in the pins helps
raven hatch
how good is the shield from junkyard?
undone verge
ilevel only
clever heart
so with mechagon rings giving verse, how much verse do we want to be sitting at ? im struggling to be above 450
undone verge
effect is garbage and doesnt have stats
raven hatch
aww the effect sounds so fun too
undone verge
but if its ilevel increase take it
raven hatch
shame its garbage
undone verge
aparently it only procs like once per minute
raven hatch
i have the arrowbreaker shield from gd higher ilvl
raven hatch
aparently it only procs like once per minute
ah that would make sense
drifting fable
so with mechagon rings giving verse, how much verse do we want to be sitting at ...
there is no vers threshold
raven hatch
thought it would be amazing reading the tooltip about the blocking
undone verge
so with mechagon rings giving verse, how much verse do we want to be sitting at ...
dont worry about stats too much, really only stat we care about going for is haste. You DR on haste at around 40% unbuffed
clever heart
dont worry about stats too much, really only stat we care about going for is has...
so even if we only had 400 verse in a 25 key we would be ok ?
at lvl 300 item lvl ?
coral marsh
Is there a penalty for tanking the second boss in workshop directly next to a box?
undone verge
so even if we only had 400 verse in a 25 key we would be ok ?
I dont do 25 keys, but probably
clever heart
im pushing 20s on it rn.
starting to get rekt. thought i might need more verse somehow
clever heart
1200 unbuffed
undone verge
thats pretty good, are you necro?
coral marsh
im doing +20 with 14 % verse
clever heart
to check if i needed more verse somehow cause 400 feels like such a small number
undone verge
whats your banner uptime?
undone verge
Is there a penalty for tanking the second boss in workshop directly next to a bo...
idealy you want to move it away just to minimize risk of breaking box
and there might be something about it exploding doing dmg to nearby players but I dont know for sure on that
safer to just pull it away
clever heart
idk banner uptime tbh
coral marsh
ye but how can the box explode i thought it was proximity based but it didnt happen
did it change?
mighty valley
Pull it away so your dps don’t have to walk too far to avoid exploding it
It’s just the leap that breaks it
coral marsh
and if one box falls directly into another is that a dps fail or rng
undone verge
its rng but it coulda been prevented
mighty valley
It targets a random player
So could be anyone, including you if you were tanking close to the previous box
coral marsh
are you guys pulling all 4 packs in ukara this week on +20
or should i play it safe two pulls
clever heart
ty for help adrednalin + coconut cat 🙂
undone verge
np
4 is probably doable this week just watch out for raging
I just do them separate since upper kara timer is a joke
we timed a 20 Upper kara after full wiping on mana devo with 50k health left
coral marsh
ye just need to do two invis pot skips
mighty valley
grimrail and upper are both insanely forgiving timers
undone verge
lowers pretty easy
forks on first boss are a bit scary but nothing else really sticks out on it
shadow haven
I did not ask for this
mighty valley
why do people call things "aids"
it's not like anyone's saying "damn this dungeon is pure syphilis"
totally chlamydia boss
oblique garnet
why do people call things "aids"
Because using actual big words makes you sound like a snob
mighty valley
yeah but why an std at all
shadow haven
did I win big with that trinket?
oblique garnet
did I win big with that trinket?
Honestly no idea what the uptime is
But probably no
mighty valley
generally the no perma mainstat trinkets aren't worth looking at
pallid quiver
it's not like anyone's saying "damn this dungeon is pure syphilis"
ill have you know ive said something along those lines before damn you
pallid quiver
i start with aids, then spin off into other STDs as necessary from there to distinguish things
because aids is the everyday common one to say, so it sets the tone
then i get to flex creativity
clever heart
Hey prot friends. when pushing 20+ mythic keys how do we choose between Aegis & RDM ?
Like what is the pros / cons of each
pallid quiver
RDM's damage. You don't use Aegis unless you need it
and if you need to ask, you don't need it
mighty valley
i just grew up when people would mostly talk about aids to make fun of gay people, so it still feels pretty shitty to me
mighty valley
oh yeah, paladin's a slur i can get behind
dawn canyon
🤝
oblique garnet
Cant use that one from warriors
pallid quiver
i just grew up when people would mostly talk about aids to make fun of gay peopl...
the only instances of aids i was ever related to in life was in heterosexual members of society, so it's literally just like
i don't understand how even though i know how
clever heart
RDM's damage. You don't use Aegis unless you need it
so what. RDM does damagge but Aegis is better defense ?
pallid quiver
Aegis is pretty much 8 seconds of invulnerability
you need it if you need it; if you don't need it, RDM's better due to clearing faster and making the run more likely to time
oblique garnet
Aegis big value in upper
dawn canyon
good on manaman
clever heart
Aegis big value in upper
how so ? just more ST less ads ?
oblique garnet
Medivh is scary
warm plinth
why do people call things "aids"
Man that dungeon is acquired immune deficiency syndrome
😂
oblique garnet
7 stacks big sweet spot to be able to sustain yourself atleast on 25 fort
warm plinth
No one is falling for your shit lady
clever heart
Medivh is scary
kk ty
shadow haven
may I ask some opinion on trinkets if I may be so bolster?
oblique garnet
Sure
shadow haven
So I got the trinket I just posted, 291 ticking sack of horror which I cant upgrade more since I need rating, 272 scars of fraternal strife and 262 so'leahs technique which I could upgrade to 291 but the valor could also be spent on plenty of other sutff, what would you do in this situation?
oblique garnet
Sack and soleahs probably depending on which of pieces can you upgrade?
@shadow haven
shadow haven
<@228989635903225856>
gloves, chest and wrist
oblique garnet
Id upgrade chest first and then w/e you have left spend on gloves
Use the soleahs in dungeons and raids to get haste from someone
shadow haven
but I have to choose
soleahs is 262 and I only have so much valor
I can go farm ofc
but for the time being
oblique garnet
Ye you can keep it as is and just upgrade your other pieces and while you do content you naturally get more ^^
shadow haven
would you really go 262 so'leahs over the other 2? im suprised
I think sack is 100%
oblique garnet
Thats just me personally i prefer having soleahs instead of on use trinket
cobalt seal
Thats just me personally i prefer having soleahs instead of on use trinket
is it really a on use
when it doesn't share cd with trinket and you can just macro on something
oblique garnet
is it really a on use
Idk? You have to think when to use it tho
cobalt seal
you only have to think if you wanna skip anything
shadow haven
soul cage is not on use either
oblique garnet
Yeah but the effect is not high uptime so soleahs just gives more strength
And sack actually does good damage
mighty valley
if you macro scars it's pretty easy to randomly lose the final rune effect on rp or at the end of pulls etc
shadow haven
they could have easily made the trinket just automatically swap but they made it on use on purpose so you could control the final rune and so on
this soul cage trinket is apperantly so irellevant its not on any sims or guides but regular mythic trinkets from shadowlands dungeons and legion timewalking trinkets are there
oblique garnet
Its worldboss loot right?
shadow haven
ye
cinder storm
So I think I have an idea about streets first boss, it's shield breaks on hits taken, demon locks keep resetting it, with two demo it's almost non existent
You can see the imps going pew pew on the shield then it breaks
chrome falcon
You can break that shield?
drifting fable
chimmi was saying something earlier that locks were like bugging it out or something
maybe thats actually what it is
cinder storm
You can break that shield?
It can cast it again, with two demos it just kept disappearing, with one it took a bit longer but it happened as long as imps were facing the shield
oblique garnet
Probably takes like 20 hits to break but nobody is dumb enough to do it
cinder storm
onlyimps 
mighty valley
missiles isn't THAT many damage instances, not much gets up to the size of a really big implosion
after they've all been shooting
prisma steppe
yo what's Decanter of Endless Howling like on prot?
mortal brook
exactly as good as it sims
median tulip
It's called "rotary body armor"
you can break it (it work on damage, not hits), but TBQH it's easier just to move to where it's not
oblique garnet
If it recasts it there is no other mechanics
Ye pmuch
Makes the fight a training dummy 
median tulip
It's a training dummy anyway
almost all of the mechanics are physical damage
big yawn
undone verge
does SR reduce the dmg of second boss Workshops big aoe?
oblique garnet
Yes
mighty valley
it's surely magic damage yeah?
oblique garnet
You can just los it
mighty valley
there's a positioning
where you can still hit it and be out of los
for your whole party
delicate iron
It's not typical LOS, if you're close to box you get a buff which makes you immune to dmg and you can still attack
Same way if you try to LOS but you are too far away from box you still get hit
undone verge
ill have to look into that one later
mighty valley
yeah practice it on a smaller key maybe
delicate iron
You want boss in 1 corner and you stand near the other corner along the same edge, a few videos on YT explain it in details but you're basically fishing for a buff which makes you immune (same icon as shadowmeld). There's a WA for that too obviously
olive rock
Kyrian or Necro for more damage in keys ?
drifting fable
necro
drifting fable
nah, if you play correctly you get a constant strength buff from banner which is huge for tanking and damage
check the vids in the pins for tips
undone verge
Really ? i tought that kyrian was so much stronger for damage
Ikr it seems like Itd be, but necros str mastery and constant rage feed into outburst is better
olive rock
Thanks guys, i will go necro
undone verge
Plus it allows you to get avatar more often which is straight 30% increased dmg
Think highest buff uptime I’ve gotten from avatar is 60%
west kayak
I bought OWS and RDM with my first two Dinars. Not sure what to buy with my third. I do not Mythic raid nor push keys above high teens.
onyx vessel
I bought OWS and RDM with my first two Dinars. Not sure what to buy with my thir...
Gavel for off spec arms
undone verge
Why play arms when you can play fury
west kayak
DPS specs are too slow for me and I really dont enjoy it.
west kayak
In comparison to Prot it is to me.
west kayak
I don't have alts, just this Prot War.
onyx vessel
About the same tbh
onyx vessel
Prot is around 80
olive rock
I bought OWS and RDM with my first two Dinars. Not sure what to buy with my thir...
Scars
undone verge
80 at least
onyx vessel
Scars is too hard to use
Rdm would probably do more dmg
Free dmg and healing
Kinda crack
5% of dmg overall at 278 in a key
10% healing
south zealot
i accidentally went into a 25 ws with scars
honestly didnt feel that bad since i never needed aegis
onyx vessel
south zealot
but it was awkward
west kayak
I am liking my RDM, OWS is great as well.
olive rock
i accidentally went into a 25 ws with scars
If u are tanking its more easy to use scars than dps, because you know when u are doing a big pull
Tanks and pugs always pull just 3 mobs
onyx vessel
Some bad groups you doing
south zealot
its so easy to use scars as dps
onyx vessel
Guild runs?
onyx vessel
Why would you wanna use a use trinket when you can run rdm and ows
Pull more then
By tanking keys
olive rock
Thats is what im trying
sonic crag
What's the best way to get value from aegis? Just like a delayed scale from before?
Like, clearly only use when it's going to break the absorb, right?
mighty valley
The cap part doesn't matter at all, that's just when it triggers damage
It's literally just, am I taking a lot of damage in the next 8 seconds? would i rather be invincible?
slap that button
urban portal
for aegis its when there are a lot of damage instances hitting you
its pretty mid on ST slow hitting monsters like jailer
sonic crag
I got it from raid this week. Got OWS with dinars. Felt silly buying a 3rd trinket
vernal vale
Damn, actually got kinda close to @chrome falcon on mythic eye
tender cove
One conduit I would kinda like to have is distrub the peace but that doesn't seem to be a thing?
undone verge
Damn, actually got kinda close to <@144555238567706624> on mythic eye
my group couldnt get m eye last week doing it this weekend I think so we'll see
vernal vale
I'm 7th and it's an orange what the fuck
Oh, parses have been wild colors for us all tier lol.
tender cove
was is so superior in the merilith soulbind?
vernal vale
my group couldnt get m eye last week doing it this weekend I think so we'll see
Good luck we had roster issues or we would have been working on soulrender.
vernal vale
was is so superior in the merilith soulbind?
Marileth has Kevin.
But in all honesty hiemer and marileth are very close
tender cove
But in all honesty hiemer and marileth are very close
any major issues with running this?
what would I lose / gain so to speak
or for me gain is conduits and some of the perks felt nice too
vernal vale
Inspiring Presence instead of disturb the peace.
tender cove
fuck, i didnt even see it myself. I tried to get both of those. I want the 11s cd on shockwave
would make it really nice
vernal vale
Disturb the peace isn't actually all that great compared to a group CD
vernal vale
Safeguard is also superior to disturb the peace.
tender cove
is there no scenario soulbind where I can get it without picking bad?
vernal vale
Not really.
tender cove
and we would never pick the talent either. I just feel like 28sec shockwave would be pretty ideal toolkit in m+
can you explain why its not? So i learn. Its new alt for me but old main from many expos ago
vernal vale
It is great but it's just outclassed. Inspiring makes a group CD stronger.
Safeguard is amazing because we use intervene on CD for reprisal.
tender cove
about that, the tooltip says nothing about gaining rage from intervene
is that some conduit or smt?
vernal vale
We will never give up our potency slots for another finesse
vernal vale
about that, the tooltip says nothing about gaining rage from intervene
That's from reprisal our legendary
vernal vale
Marileth has 3 potency.
Hiemer technically Sims higher but you need to play good to actually do it and it's only by a few hundred dps
tender cove
´first time necro, playng prot pala main, and both venthyr and kyrian have super relaxed options
vernal vale
Marileth is also technically tankier in the choices you have.
tender cove
okok, i'll just not try to reinvent the wheel or try and play around with my own thoughts and just follow the cookie cutter, bit sad but def smartest and best
Thanks for the crash course @vernal vale ❤️
vernal vale
Your welcome. Yeah I think everyone is looking forward to options with Dragonflight to avoid cookie cutter.
vernal vale
and we would never pick the talent either. I just feel like 28sec shockwave woul...
Also on another note I really did like Night Fae for Ancient Aftershock as a form of control on trash in M+
Necro is just so good with tier and double legendary now.
mighty valley
Enjoy
sharp zenith
Enjoy that 1 time you die to it
it happened
ionic fern
okok, i'll just not try to reinvent the wheel or try and play around with my ow...
Go against the machine. Make your own build.
brittle owl
ye post it on reddit or wowforums
lament shell
I saw goatface played with heavy repercussions in lower kara +29(dont remember)
I wonder whats the reason
ionic fern
No idea who that is.
Ask them.
They will probably give you some generic answer like "Uh, i felt like i needed more SB up-time".
Profit.
lament shell
Ye i wish i knew who that is
Very talented player plays every tank at the 0.1% level
ionic fern
Oooook.
queen stag
Old Warrior's Soul is touted as a great trinket, which it probably is, but why do I see a ton of prot warriors running the Sun King cheat death trinket? Does Old Warrior's Soul still win above that trinket in 20+? In a strictly M+ context
ionic fern
Okay, lets think this through together.
-One of them provides haste which is a overall great stat for us in all situation
-The other one prevents you from dying
Am i doing content that is dangerous enough where i need the cheat death trinket? - If yes, use it.
Otherwise don't use it.
20 keys are definitely not warranting cheat death trinket.
Why they think they need it, idk.
People are also using codex although it's crap.
queen stag
Alright cool, thanks for the heads-up.
At what key level does it become necessary to run Sun King's trink?
ionic fern
🙂
There is no set key level for it.
You really don't NEED it - it's just a failsafe.
Sense is doing keys in the 25-30 area and he's not using it.
🤷
torn gust
i like using old mans soul and shard
tender cove
Can you macro victory rush, healthstone and health potion together?
undone verge
probably but I wouldn't advise doing it
tender cove
it will cast everything? aren't both vr and hs on the global?
queen stag
it will cast everything? aren't both vr and hs on the global?
If more than one of those is on the GCD, you can't do it.
undone verge
I dont think healthstone is on the gcd
cinder storm
Maybe with a modifier?
undone verge
I know healthpots are but im not certain about healthstones
never paid attention to that before
tender cove
I mean, it would make sense since prot doesn't have any reliable self heal and its either hs or pots
queen stag
Can you macro victory rush, healthstone and health potion together?
Like Coconutcat said though, it's highly inadvisable to blow all your sustainability in one huge self-nuke heal when you may need one of them in a later pull or at a later stage in a raid boss fight
tender cove
and having them in one button, and use VR if its there, if not HS, and if not available, use potion, dont matter if I would have to spam button several times
is that possible?
undone verge
problem is for the situation where you have healthpot healthstones but you just want to use victory rush to go from 70-100 and you end up overhealing by 80% of your health
or when your at 50 and want to healthstone back to full for some high incoming dmg and end up in the same situation
queen stag
and having them in one button, and use VR if its there, if not HS, and if not av...
You could actually bind them to the same key and set modifiers for each different thing, such as unmodified for victory rush, alt + key for pot and ctrl + key for HS
tender cove
yeh, ofc it cant use all 3 at once, that would be retaraded
Nah, i wanted it to just be 1 keybind since warrior healing doesnt really exist
undone verge
you talking like a priority cast?
victory rush, if not healthstone, if not healthpot
tender cove
well victory rush isn't guranteed to be up when i need it
queen stag
Nah, i wanted it to just be 1 keybind since warrior healing doesnt really exist
You can do it then. You're going to end up basically overhealing and wasting a lot of consumables in the process if there is no control mechanism in place to make sure that doesn't happen
tender cove
You can do it then. You're going to end up basically overhealing and wasting a ...
I just told you that end results doesn't work for me either.
undone verge
well thats the if not, so like if VR is available it casts only Victory rush, but if its not it casts health pot, but if thats not available it casts healthstone?
tender cove
I get that it isn't working to have it perfect like that but any middle ground?
tender cove
well thats the if not, so like if VR is available it casts only Victory rush, bu...
if that would work? Epic
queen stag
The macro is thus:
#showtooltip Victory Rush
/cast Victory Rush
/cast Healthstone
/cast <pot's name>
and bind that macro to a single button
tender cove
sick, ty bro 🙂
undone verge
thats the one that casts all 3 right
queen stag
thats the one that casts all 3 right
yeah
tender cove
and it wont spam all 3 abilities at once?
tender cove
does those castsequence macros work anymore?
queen stag
Nope
undone verge
they nuked them in BC or something
tender cove
ahh, sucks 😦
undone verge
cause there was a one button hunter cast sequence macro
yeah I cant really think of anything that would do the t rick
queen stag
If you tap again, it will use the pot
Disclaimer: This is fully assuming that the pot is actually on the GCD. If it is not, literally everything will pop at once
undone verge
healing pot isnt on gcd
undone verge
if they were on the gcd it would probably work tbh lol
lament shell
bruh tanks use healing pots?
undone verge
I usually dont cause that costs gold and im broke
queen stag
bruh tanks use healing pots?
Currently tanking 20's, have yet to use a heal pot. I do use cookies now and then though
brittle owl
ofc you use healing pots
ypu don't necesarily need them
but they are an improvement
undone verge
so are strength potions
lament shell
pre pot is something else
queen stag
I would actually argue for str pots over heal pots
lament shell
just healing pots
brittle owl
every time you die to a missed heal cast is a time you couldve survived with a healing pot
should have both
¯_(ツ)_/¯
queen stag
every time you die to a missed heal cast is a time you couldve survived with a h...
But.... I don't die
brittle owl
ans use accordingly
queen stag
This char is only 5 days old
undone verge
110 days on my warrior 👀
queen stag
110 days on my warrior 👀
Was this your main from cataclysm or MoP?
undone verge
definitely not bfa
tbf I dont play really any alts
I actually played a warrior before that just didnt want to pay for a race change
queen stag
I've lost count of my alts... but I still remember the character that started my journey back in Wrath. You never forget your first...
zinc shale
Is this applied by ST abilities or thunderclap as well?
undone verge
new healing record
strong forum
Is this applied by ST abilities or thunderclap as well?
Should apply on any dmg sourced from you
coral marsh
on oshir we blinded rylak but when the boss reached 10 % blind timed out and we couldnt trap it
is that a bug?
undone verge
did the trap timer end?
strong forum
Did the mob have any debuff on it
coral marsh
so the mob has dr?
mellow bridge
coral marsh
i guess someone just dotted it in panic
edgy bone
ok i heard if you are 9/9 covenant campaign on your main
mighty valley
lotta dps classes can dot with just an auto attack
edgy bone
then on your ALT, you can insta unlock all the soulbinds?
mighty valley
yep, that's right
silver halo
Good morning, i gotta jump in as tank for my guild cause or main tank got sick. My GS should be more then enough for HC Raid. But i havent tanked with any class yet. Should i run Reprisal or The Wall? I checked the FAQ but just asking you what legendary you would recommend a new new tank player.
edgy bone
i'm 9/9 kyrian on my rogue, buit 2/9 on my weaerrior
but i want the last soulbind guy (mikos" on my warrior
mighty valley
you should just be able to talk to the soulbind NPCs and immediately turn in their quests
(this has to be on the same covenant)
mighty valley
Good morning, i gotta jump in as tank for my guild cause or main tank got sick. ...
Might as well start with Reprisal, it's overall much more powerful
silver halo
Thats reprisal right?
undone verge
thats the icon
mighty valley
Yeah
silver halo
is there any must have macro for prot warri?
oblique garnet
Leap on @ cursor
undone verge
there is one must have macro
#showtooltip Spell Reflection
/cast Spell Reflection
/s istg if one of you dps kicks the goddamn cast
silver halo
I like having a mouseover macro for Intervene
on who should i intervene as tank? the other tank?
undone verge
tank or melee in range
mighty valley
either the other tank if you're currently tanking and it's ok for you to take a hit, or a melee
undone verge
just intervene a range to pull boss out of wildspirits easier
silver halo
ah right i was thinking like he gets the dmg i get. but its other way around
onyx vessel
<:weird:718676218500874320>
Shhh
undone verge
curser heroic leap macro is pretty good tbh
silver halo
curser heroic leap macro is pretty good tbh
haha got this dw
now i just gotta find out in 24H how 2play prot. which skills are my most importan etc
edgy bone
there is one must have macro
#showtooltip Spell Reflection
/cast Spell Reflectio...
What does that macro do
low kindle
Is this applied by ST abilities or thunderclap as well?
isn't this thing super bad? it doesn't even proc every pull or smth iirc
coral marsh
getting yourself banned for spamming
mighty valley
yeah no one's gonna read your chat spam macro in time to not interrupt a spell
lofty widget
on oshir we blinded rylak but when the boss reached 10 % blind timed out and we ...
Not a bug, the rylak is flying so it never goes through the trap just flies over
zinc shale
isn't this thing super bad? it doesn't even proc every pull or smth iirc
forgot about the max1, yeah its terrible xD
jagged pier
Leap on @ cursor
onyx vessel
chrome falcon
on oshir we blinded rylak but when the boss reached 10 % blind timed out and we ...
They probably just missed the trap
It’s awkward
mighty valley
all of my abilities are macro'd to target @ your heart
blazing condor
execute my heart pls
blazing condor
its a coal train thats contributing to worsened climate
be the change you want to see in the world
boycott
static aspen
Why? Best dungeon. I even voted for it and not playing s4 my self at all. Ahh great power of freedom.
undone verge
its a coal train thats contributing to worsened climate
but we're stopping the train and blowing it up
blazing condor
domestic terrorism isn't the solution
undone verge
grimrail is completely aids and not because its hard because the entire dungeon is like being crammed in a locker with someones smelly gym clothes
undone verge
domestic terrorism isn't the solution
thats better
ty
I think ill do gambit instead
blazing condor
murloc genocide is completely fine 
undone verge
absolutely
mighty valley
Grimrail is very short and linear
Which is better than everbloom I guess
What were the other options
ionic fern
i have no @ cursor macros 🙂
Ravager/Leap/Spear for me.
blazing condor
if i didnt move with mouse i probably would have them
but its just janky
and works fine without
blazing condor
i still backpedal otherwise i move with mouse ye
ionic fern
Aa.
mighty valley
I have right click held like 95% of the time
ionic fern
^
undone verge
gambit obliterated
we 2 chested
coulda been a 3 tbh but there were a few mistakes
now I need lower and grimrail for my 20s
im not really worried about either but it just sounds eh
ive done grimrail the least and lower is just about people not being idiots
queen stag
I have these 2 to choose from. Overall, what will benefit me more?
More tankiness for magic dmg or more pew pew?
ionic fern
Always more pewpew. Thought you want the haste one ideally.
silver halo
can any1 tell me right left middle?
ionic fern
can any1 tell me right left middle?
Huh?
Change Unstoppable Force to Ravager (for m+) or Into the Fray (for raid) and you're good.
silver halo
ty
ionic fern
Also
German (?) names are great
What's the full name for Anger Management in german?
That word looks long as hell.
"Aggressionsman.."
😂
blazing condor
I thought it would be longer.
jagged pier
silver halo
I Cant use that spell.. why?
tough inlet
no shield or rage maybe?
silver halo
oh it uses rage? ok
tough inlet
That's one of the benefits of playing Reprisal. Instant shield block with Charge.
strong forum
If he didn't have a shield equipped the icon would be red
tough inlet
good to know... when i switch speccs i automatically equip shield, so never seen it
zinc shale
Hm, i would love a WA/Addon that tracks kicks but also lets you post in party whos off cd with like a Shiftclick
just like dbm/bigwigs bar shiftclicking
blazing condor
I cant really see the point in that
Unless youre trying to prevent people kicking at the same time
But still thats a hell to try and micro manage
orchid frigate
My dps mates thinks that they should get shock bots first. Any truth to that statement?
strong forum
The one with the most haste should get bots first
orchid frigate
Yupp
strong forum
But it doesn't matter if you play the good route, you'll get 4 bots instantly
orchid frigate
Also true
strong forum
5 if you have a person that can CC and drop combat
orchid frigate
Noticed that a lot of healers don’t pick bots at all in low keys 😦
strong forum
Lots of people don't
sick sentinel
they are probably told dps need rhem to pump is my guess
strong forum
Friend did a 21 where only 2 people had shockbots
orchid frigate
Wow
sick sentinel
i did junkyard like 2 or 3 times as mage baby keys below 15, and i got a shock bots max of 3 times total
like total bots, not dungeons spent hunting and collecting them
im already low dps as is, dont wanna get confused with the timer going bork it
orchid frigate
Healer did 1.6k overall, big pumper
MW?
I know a lot of healers that hate the idea of doing dps
sick sentinel
under 15 dps healer does not exist
zinc shale
I cant really see the point in that
medivh, tyrannical weeks 🥲
"LETS MAKE A KICK ORDER HAR HAR DURR DURR"
never works
sick sentinel
under 15 key is unga bunga 4head me tank u healer them dps hold w brrr gg
undone owl
pff im still trynna get good at banner uptime
👍
zinc shale
gave up on wat
sick sentinel
prot warrior atm
zinc shale
y tho
sick sentinel
because this is all i played from 8.0 to now effectively
drifting socket
The one with the most haste should get bots first
does this include the tank?
zinc shale
does this include the tank?
yeah
sick sentinel
im gunna go nuts if i dont try something else or classic
zinc shale
it passively procs in combat
I had more haste than a SP in my last gambt 24, not sure if there are any classes with more unbuffed haste than us? 😄
strong forum
Bdk has more haste
zinc shale
either that or proccs from healers healing
robust quiver
does this include the tank?
i think that bdks and pwars are the best bot holders
i usually have the most shock bot damage at the end of the key
robust quiver
it passively procs in combat
so it's not a proc from damage? It's just a passive incombat rppm?
zinc shale
not sure, healers deal big damage just from doing almost nothing
and priests just press smite and holy fire so, not much clicks per minute or apm or much to procc from
topaz field
not sure, healers deal big damage just from doing almost nothing
idk i pressing my buttons a lot on my resto druid
disgusting how hard i have to work to match the dmg of vesper totem
cinder dirge
bro wtf i've put en engineer invis on my belt and now I can't put a socket on it ? Was this ever a thing ?
topaz field
nah that shouldnt be a problem
cinder dirge
silver halo
what conduits do we use as prot?
cinder dirge
i'm using the item to make a socket in the belt so i can put a gem in it
On one belt that isn't being enchant with the invis engineer thingi t says that i can (on theb ag)
on the other belt that i currently equipepd BUT i've put the invis engineer enchant on it it says that i can't
i mean
topaz field
that should not be a problem but what i know
cinder dirge
it's black/grey whatever
dawn canyon
Bugged utem
sick sentinel
i'm using the item to make a socket in the belt so i can put a gem in it
u can have a socket and a belt enchant, yes
it will not override the socket and vica verca, you putting gem in belt won't remove engineer enchant.
it may require you to take the belt off into your bags and then use the item in your bags to add socket to the belt in your bags then equip
cinder dirge
Reload ui and so on
doesn't work sadly
topaz field
perhaps u have to buy a mount first
static aspen
Yeah, try to buy a mount from the store dude
dawn canyon
sick sentinel
yeah i think i get a lvl 70 boost with my free mount if i like classic enough
cuz the joke is i'd only buy that for the mount
wintry nymph
how much tankier does necro banner make you, is the difference that huge compared to like kyrian?
Haven't had the time to actually practise my rotation for uptime on banner, so i just went with kyrian for my 15/16 keys, which went fine, but I definetly wanna go conq banner
distant crystal
idk that it's even that different from kyrian
I think you're still trying to cycle rage as fast as you can as kyrian there's just less gain from it compared to NL
chrome falcon
Haven't had the time to actually practise my rotation for uptime on banner, so i...
You don’t need a covenant, tier, or legendaries for 15s
wintry nymph
very true
chrome falcon
But necrolord makes you massively tankier
wintry nymph
that big of a difference if i actually learn to play it?
chrome falcon
24% str is a huge amount of tankiness
wintry nymph
will be practising tonight
edgy grail
It def feels different to me
chrome falcon
It’s a big difference compared to
wintry nymph
Assuming 100% uptime which you should have
fair
edgy grail
Sucks when I have to run from pack to pack and it drops 😔
chrome falcon
… no defensive benefit
wintry nymph
last time i played i had like 36% and was like, i need to practise this before i will actually benifit from it hah
chrome falcon
Sucks when I have to run from pack to pack and it drops 😔
That’s why you bring the pack closer to the next one
Well the thing is
edgy grail
Yea just def gotta get better about that
wintry nymph
sitll new to prot, always played arms
edgy grail
Havent tanked in a long time
chrome falcon
Generating and spending rage is all you need to do on this class to start with
The playstyle is the exact same
chrome falcon
For sure for sure
wintry nymph
just have to play more : P
wintry nymph
less punishing?
wintry nymph
ah
chrome falcon
It’s just worse
wintry nymph
chrome falcon
The idea that Kyrian is for bad players and necro is for good ones is just false
Bad necro lord players get 40% banner uptime
Kyrian players get 0% banner uptime
edgy grail
Wow don’t gotta come at my banner uptime like that 👀
Nah I’m getting closer to around 80?
Still not great 😔
My biggest mistake
Is def reprisal
Shit is hard 😔
uneven mason
Nah I’m getting closer to around 80?
Your warlock must be disappointed that he doesn't have 100% uptime on his flag mastery buff
edgy grail
Normally I am the warlock so I know the feeling and feel ashamed
wintry nymph
It’s because you’re just bad at the class
right in the feels but i know its true 😂
fuck
gotta git gud
uneven mason
Slam the target dummy
Don't use slam
wintry nymph
to just get the rotation into my head
and muscles
should help massively
worked for every other class / spec so far
topaz field
u will see that playing necrolord makes a lot more sense with regard to tier set
edgy grail
Don't use slam
Yea just meant go use it 😂
topaz field
its a really fun and strong tier set since it rewards playing well
topaz field
no it doesnt count towards your covernant lego
but indirectly yes
since u have chance for SS reset
vernal flax
Do I buy RDM or Aegis with my Dinars? I mainly M+ tank but do some raid tanking.
jagged pier
What key lvls?
vernal flax
Running like 20-25 at the moment
urban portal
rdm is more braindead
lofty widget
No need for aegis at that key lvl
clever heart
Wait can someone explain to me why Streets trinket is bad on Prot warrior but RDM is somehow good ? Wasnt Streets trinket bad cause the damage wouldnt work with shield block. but doesnt RDM work same way ?
Also even though I know we dont use Aegis as often as other tanks can anyone explain to me how Aegis interacts with abilities like Shield block + Ignore pain ?
If we use Aegis at the same time that we have Shield block up & ignore pain shield up, does the incoming damage we take get absorbed by Aegis or does it get blocked by shield block ?
(currently doing 20's on warrior and hoping to do up to 25's alt keys this season on him. really confused about some of these interactions though, I main other tank specs).
sorry kind of big question. idk if this was right way to ask.
jagged pier
Running like 20-25 at the moment
0 need for ageis at that lvl
chrome falcon
Codex is a %, RDM is a flat amount
strong forum
The pin already explains alot
chrome falcon
That’s the very short answer
strong forum
Rdm has a fixed value for a full absorb codex is only a drop into the bucket
chrome falcon
I’m not sure I totally understand your question about aegis
chrome falcon
Shield block/ IP will reduce the hit, aegis absorbs whatever is left
vernal flax
0 need for ageis at that lvl
At what level does Aegis become better than RDM? I am looking to push higher on my warrior, just at that level for now.
strong forum
Idk, 28?29?
clever heart
so when using aegis, for tanks that are doing like 30's and i see atone of prots using aegis in those. do they use aegis when they do have shield block up or when shield block is down?
strong forum
The 2 are diff trinkets
Aegis is pure defense
Rdm is decent defense and alot of dps
mortal brook
47k dtps at 50% codex uptime and zero hasted pp on rdm.
is when codex can compete
so uh
good luck
brittle owl
heh
strong forum
so when using aegis, for tanks that are doing like 30's and i see atone of prots...
You wanna use both, but aegis helps also cover the downtime
brittle owl
u said hasted peepee
mortal brook
big pp
strong forum
Depends on situation
brittle owl
tru
chrome falcon
so when using aegis, for tanks that are doing like 30's and i see atone of prots...
You really never want to get hit without SB up but aegis can sometimes cover downtime
mortal brook
hasted pp can lead to big pp
jagged pier
At what level does Aegis become better than RDM? I am looking to push higher on ...
Like 28-30, probably has value in a 24 tyran upper tho for mediveh and just mediveh
mortal brook
esp with this seazon's bounty
strong forum
Aegis is also good on mana devourer*
chrome falcon
You can’t really just make an equation for when to use what trinket active
strong forum
Big shtackies
chrome falcon
It’s all reactive and situational
Sometimes you need to use it during SB sometimes you don’t
lofty widget
It All comes down to preference
brittle owl
You can’t really just make an equation for when to use what trinket active
you 100% can, on offensive trinkets
just sim
south zealot
its basically when you know youre gonna get fucking slapped
chrome falcon
someone hit this guy with a chatting I don’t have it
brittle owl
a defensive trinket is used in place of a class cd
clever heart
ok. and just checking, I've read the pin and understand streets trinket is way worse on prot warrior than other tanks. but when i check top rated prot warrior keys on raider io, there were a few 28+ keys where a prot warrior used a streets trinket.
Obviously codex scales on key level cause it is uncapped.
basically im just curious if this player likely only used streets cause he doesn't have anything better yet OR if for the people doing 30+ keys if codex can become legitimately the correct choice.
chrome falcon
Big dam incoming? Use aegis
lofty widget
Aegis should be used similar ly to wall
chrome falcon
Anyone using codex at any level on this class is just wrong
strong forum
^
lofty widget
On cd except if big pull is coming up
chrome falcon
Period
brittle owl
@clever heart do you do 28 or 30+ keys?
chrome falcon
There is no level where codex is good
south zealot
ok. and just checking, I've read the pin and understand streets trinket is way w...
codex is never good on prot warrior
strong forum
It's just a pit that most of the high rio people fell into
"alot of high rio people use codex, so I also must use codex"
brittle owl
it is or it isn't
strong forum
That situation got out of hand
brittle owl
context is everything
the limiting factor in m+ is always the damage output in the griup
clever heart
<@297858063107489792> do you do 28 or 30+ keys?
lol nope. im hard capped at 22's on blood dk rn. im just curoius why i see a player using it when the math says they shouldnt.
brittle owl
if you can increase the damage by pulling bigger or faster by using a suboptimal trinket
strong forum
Cuz they don't know, and don't trust those that have done the math
chrome falcon
Good at keys =/= good at theory/class
strong forum
It's a vicious cycle
brittle owl
then overall it can be a viable choice
topaz field
technically u never want to use aegis over rdm and ows but u will have to eventually
shut summit
mostly misinformed or feelycraft things
clever heart
It's just a pit that most of the high rio people fell into
lol ok ya makes sense just checking.
strong forum
Codex has gotten to the point of becoming a political discussion
shut summit
difference doesnt really make or break the key just minor optimzation
strong forum
It's real sad