protection

[woeful sphinx]

charging more

intervening more

[rose eagle]

Not sure how to do that.

[lusty grotto]

the 1st part of that sentence is odd

you block all melee when shield block is up

so you shouldnt need to check what you blocked

[oblique garnet]

No idea who else is playing besides echo and sjeles team

[rose eagle]

You do if you wanna know what abilities you can block.

[lusty grotto]

there are weak auras for spell reflect, but i dont know which one is recommended cause i dont use it

all melee

that's your answer

also pins has a handy list

[rose eagle]

@lusty grotto alright buddy.

[lusty grotto]

but it wont give you info on leveling content, only end game stuff

[rose eagle]

good thing im not leveling

[lusty grotto]

you asked for loa

didnt you?

oh whoops that was the other white name

my mistake

[tender phoenix]

is it worth keeping on a [Salvaged Mekacycle Shielding]298 or putting on a [Ruined Crest of Lordaeron]285?

[lusty grotto]

mekacycle probably

well, not probably

it has to be mekacycle, but try to get a replacement soon

[cobalt seal]

ilvl wins

in almost everything

[lusty grotto]

ilvl = more block value which you cant get anywhere else

so you pick the shield with more ilvl which means more block value

there are no exceptions

but try to get a 298 (or better) to replace the cycle cause its not very good

[tender phoenix]

would it be worth upgrading the [Ruined Crest of Lordaeron] to HC till i get a decent [Arrowbreaker Greatshield] to get rid of the mech shield?

[cobalt seal]

No?

unless you dont need to upgrade anything else

mechagon shield isn't that bad if you dont have another of same ilvl

[tender phoenix]

maybe need to up the nine trink

[lusty grotto]

its not just arrowbreaker

there's a good shield in streets too

[chrome falcon]

you don't need to upgrade the nine trinket

[tender phoenix]

what should i aim for then (not old warrior soul)

[south zealot]

ows and reactive defense matrix

[icy garden]

[potent anvil]

This season, only

[alpine shard]

you know what's even sadder

i cant even remember the last time deswind streamed

[chrome falcon]

you upgrade OWS last

[lusty grotto]

[chrome falcon]

compared to RDM and a shield

it scales the worst out of the 3

mythic OWS gives 20 more haste than normal

[lusty grotto]

oh shit i was gonna pump my ows that i just got this week lmao

dunno if i should pug mythic

i at least vaguely remember CN

[chrome falcon]

idk i mean i might be wrong

always sim yourself

but a mythic RDM this patch is twice as good as a mythic RDM last patch

not counting the str

mythic OWS this patch is like 20% more haste than mythic OWS from 9.1

(not counting the str)

[lusty grotto]

i cant remember which CN bosses i pugged in mythic

probably the 1st three?

back in s1 i mean

shriekwing for sure

oh

i didnt do any lmao

[urban portal]

i did first 5

back then

[toxic pewter]

Is mythic shriekwing hard for pug

Never did it before

[lusty grotto]

hmm i cant remember why i didnt do them

[urban portal]

no

[lusty grotto]

i usually did the 1st three

[urban portal]

not hard

huntman is hard

[toxic pewter]

Ok

Yah like which bosses are actually puggable

Is it basically shriekwing

[lusty grotto]

i mean i usually did the 1st 2 or 3 on previous tiers

like in bfa and shit

[toxic pewter]

Ok

[lusty grotto]

so cant remember why ididnt do them in s1

[urban portal]

yeah

huntsman was too hard

[lusty grotto]

probably cause they drop squat shit lol

[urban portal]

in SOD eye is easy

[cinder storm]

I was super lucky to find a small H group, hoping to do at least 5 bosses we ended up clearing everything one shot except denathrius which took 3 bc of dispells

[urban portal]

compararrtively

[cobalt seal]

Hunts is fine

[urban portal]

eye is still hard tho

[cobalt seal]

if you have someone that can call the immunes

before pull

[urban portal]

ye

requires more effort than sod/sepulcher

is my point

eye is doable without swapping

and skolex is just stack on point

[cobalt seal]

depends on affix

eye with shield (which I hope wouldn't pop in intermission)

would prob change that

[chrome falcon]

eye without swapping was kinda hard on numbers week 2

but should be jokes now

[pallid quiver]

still a bit of the prot war bias lives

just got invited to a group, one person went "ewww prot"

and then 3 of members just bailed

[icy garden]

I'm not classist thankfully, just serverist

[chrome falcon]

maybe they left because they don't want to play with someone who hates pwarr

🙂

[toxic pewter]

Earlier joined a group that was actively seeking a prot warr

We owned the key too

[chrome falcon]

[lusty grotto]

[low kindle]

Can you leap attuneman Mortal Strike?

[warm plinth]

I still love you and I still watch your videos ❤️

[warm plinth]

waow

[south zealot]

yes

[limpid pawn]

hey, what's the proper way to determine what stats I should choose with soleahs secret tech

[south zealot]

you want haste

[limpid pawn]

ok what about as arms though - is this something on raid bots?

[south zealot]

oh as arms?

sim your stat weights

on raidbots

[hazy edge]

There's an option at the bottom to chose which stat you get from soleahs. Just do a sim with one of each whichever is the highest, bam there ya go

[limpid pawn]

k

ty

for my hectic add cleave this is what I got

(as arms) i assume i choose verse

[mighty valley]

if the hectic add cleave sim is accurate and up to date yeah

probably ask in arms which sims are best though

[vernal vale]

My LFR hero alt is so silly to run with

It was also sad to see a kyrian prot in that LFR run

[icy garden]

finally got indomitable

[mighty valley]

the talent?

[icy garden]

ye

[mighty valley]

you're leveling?

[icy garden]

ye

[lime trail]

I assume 45% haste ooc is too much but I want even more than that

[icy garden]

sim

[mighty valley]

or follow your heart

zoom if you wanna zoom

[south zealot]

why do priests never use gs

[icy garden]

bc bad

[south zealot]

solid 1 minute healing cd

and saves if it procs

especially on packs that fucking blast

[lusty grotto]

my priest uses it a lot

so idk

esp for giga packs

but usually we overlap with wall cause were dumb

identical oh-shit reaction time basically

esp when you intervene a hunter in africa, get caught in a storming nado and land near a sleep puddle LMAO

and dispel on cd

good times

i swear i keep forgetting to check if hunters are not surv

[south zealot]

had a mm and frost in last key

my heals does too

[plush prism]

what % do you get for Chess in Upper?

anyone remember?

[south zealot]

just under 10

[icy garden]

around 10

[south zealot]

i think justunder

maybe just over

thik 20 count

[molten rivet]

Its 18 count

[lusty grotto]

keystone guru has it at 10.7%

the only one that counts is the king so idk why i selected everything but yea

[lethal trench]

From the pins. Why craft wall and unity on back? Must be an error?

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern hi ily

[lusty grotto]

wall in case youre raiding

oh

[mighty valley]

legendary slots are lower ilvl than the best s4 gear

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats weird, just go with a slot that has low stats

[mighty valley]

so you don't want to put them on higher value slots

[icy garden]

but why craft both legendaries on the same piece

[lethal trench]

I know that.... but it's the same slot

[icy garden]

where you cant wear them both at the same time

[mighty valley]

oh

[lusty grotto]

just needs a revision

[mighty valley]

who's crafting the wall anyway

[lethal trench]

xD

[lusty grotto]

but the logic is still there

anyone coming back recently i guess?

[ionic fern]

Good morning Ghash

[lusty grotto]

MWAHI FIX IT NOW

[mighty valley]

just use your old unity on the tiny number of fights where you might care to use the wall

[lusty grotto]

[ionic fern]

100% a error. Did it in a hurry, will fix, thanks. 🙂

[warm plinth]

Last day of the work week

[lusty grotto]

[warm plinth]

when are you coming back to WoW Mwahi

We got Late and Nimchip back

Now we need Mwahi and Cosmo

[ionic fern]

Also last day of summer it seems.

[lusty grotto]

yamo didnt quit, he just spams offline and online too

in my bnet gd

[ionic fern]

I diddn't even leave WoW. 😦
I just play very rarely. 😂

[warm plinth]

That's basically the same thing

[lusty grotto]

well i did

it was great

[warm plinth]

and now you're back

You fool

[lusty grotto]

and now im back in it again 😢

ghash you know what made me quit for real

[warm plinth]

What made you quit

[lusty grotto]

classic

[ionic fern]

This is my normal route atm:
-Get excited for WoW and m+ keys again
-Try to find a +15 key for ~30 minutes as a tank...ok..motivation is a BIT down but it's fine!! Still hyped!
-Join the key
-Realise how bad people are at the game both mechanically and knowledge wise
-Get annoyed, leave.

Start again next week.

[warm plinth]

What do you mean? That game has so much quality of life

[ionic fern]

[warm plinth]

Just come to NA and do keys with me

[lusty grotto]

no jk, i honestly had quit when my friends decided to do that dumb experiment

[mighty valley]

did your friends ever master all four mechanics in classic?

[lusty grotto]

but now i cleared a bit of my backlog and play 2 mmos so i have that going for me

[warm plinth]

what dumb experiment

[lusty grotto]

doing classic cause retail was boring in s1

and then i...

became the de-facto gm of our guild

and raid leader

which was a mistake

[icy garden]

heroic leap shouldnt be allowed to initialize combat

[warm plinth]

what does that mean

to gally, not nimchip

[lusty grotto]

it means he aimed incorrectly

[icy garden]

on neutral mobs^

hush

[warm plinth]

It does damage though

[lusty grotto]

xD

[warm plinth]

Which let's be real

[ionic fern]

😦

[warm plinth]

Why does it need to do damage

It's a mobility spell

[lusty grotto]

yeah idk

[warm plinth]

Like a gnome leaping through the air never hurt anyone; they just palm it and throw it back

[mighty valley]

because if it did no damage it wouldn't kill random rats and shit when you leap down a thousand feet

[lusty grotto]

i can hear the cries of "immersion"

[warm plinth]

Immersion? Then I should've killed everything when I landed after jumping from Skyhold

[lusty grotto]

true and real

especially when you dc'd

[mighty valley]

idk it would be less satisfying if there was literally no number after heroic leap

[warm plinth]

Sorry priest buddy, didn't see you there

[mighty valley]

and like, how often is it actually bad

[lusty grotto]

im ok with the floor cracking

[icy garden]

^

but when i jump and some random turtle elite starts trying to murder me

[lusty grotto]

boop 2 dmg

[icy garden]

also we like being double the dps of the level 14 hunter

[warm plinth]

It's like when you land on a hollow's head in Dark Souls

and do like 3 damage

[lusty grotto]

lol

[mighty valley]

would be great if it took more than one hit to turn them hostile, like in dark souls 3

rather than instantly trying to kill you, like in dark souls 1

i'm sorry solaire, i pressed a button by accident

[lusty grotto]

i swear to god ive never accidentally hit neutrals in soulsborne games, idk how it happens to people

[icy garden]

i straight up do not believe you

[lusty grotto]

and now that ive said it

im probably gonna have it happen on Elden's dlc

and ghash will meme me forever

[mighty valley]

it's literally only happened when i've put the controller down and it bumps a shoulder button

[warm plinth]

You wanna meme me about something?

I still haven't really played Elden Ring

[lusty grotto]

that's ok

[warm plinth]

I killed the one boss at the beginning that's on the big ass horse

And I died a few times to the really quick boss whose name I can't remember

Something something fate

But that's it

[lusty grotto]

do you sub to patientgamers.reddit.com too?

[warm plinth]

no

[lusty grotto]

lmaooo

[warm plinth]

is that a thing

[lusty grotto]

yeah it is

[warm plinth]

what's it for

[icy garden]

patient gamers

[lusty grotto]

people playing games after the hype basically

[warm plinth]

oh

[lusty grotto]

but really its about playing them 25 years later

[warm plinth]

I was actually fairly hyped for it but I have to get into a certain mood to get into games like that

[lusty grotto]

and then circle jerking about how long the wait was

[mighty valley]

elden ring is great, just don't get weird and feel like you have to 100% it

[lusty grotto]

cough

[warm plinth]

I like watching people play games like that actually

Like speedruns and walkthroughs

I watched a speedrun once of an all achievements DS3 run

It was 12 hours

[lusty grotto]

speed runs are amazing to watch ngl

[warm plinth]

I like watching the no bug ones

[lusty grotto]

yeah i get it

[warm plinth]

Like when I watch DS3 runs I like watching the no teardrop all bosses ones

[lusty grotto]

i like the bug ones but sometimes the bugs are so ridiculous that it's just eh

[warm plinth]

It's not fun watching someone run under the game world for half of it

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[warm plinth]

Squillakilla's runs are really cool too. He did an all souls games no hit run

Like all games back to back and if he got hit he had to start over

[mighty valley]

i'm interested in watching some ultra glitched runs as a game developer

but like

not many times over

[lusty grotto]

i honestly dont have times for streams anymore tbh, i only put some while working kind of like podcasts,

i listen to them and dont watch

that xeno guy from ffxiv is my favorite one right now

he does some bullshit with a bell that always cracks me up

[ionic fern]

I sometimes tune in on some streamers when they are talking/doing prot warrior stuff.

And then leave soon after.

[lusty grotto]

yeah

ive been meaning to catch sense or late streaming but i havent been able to

[ionic fern]

Oh, and the casters for the m+ events...when they talk about Prot warrior..

............

[lusty grotto]

at least recently i mean

[ionic fern]

No wonder community is so badly informed.

[lusty grotto]

its like when sco was the go to

remember that

[edgy grail]

Yea prot sucks

[lusty grotto]

recommending indom for everything

when indom was garbage

[ionic fern]

I can't even remember when i last saw Sense streaming. 😦

Nom streams pretty often now tho.

[lusty grotto]

maybe ill drop by if i catch him on

[ionic fern]

He's playing the game on easy mode tho.

5x tank keys.

Cheating.

[lusty grotto]

we should do that again in NA with the gang

but im still a babby

[ionic fern]

Same.

[icy garden]

Am also still babby

[lusty grotto]

lol i mean i quit in s1 so

im playing catch up still

sometimes i dont even know how half the systems work

like i figured out i could earn rep from sepulcher way late

for the memory lol

and my first gambit run was a 14

ever

i fucked up many times

[icy garden]

imaginable

[lusty grotto]

didnt even know what to do on that dumb console of the 1st boss

and my buddy kept saying to face the pirate dragon towards the ships, so i did... to the little row boats

[icy garden]

so

[warm plinth]

What am I gonna do with you Nim

[icy garden]

does ravager give 10 rage per target hit or just 10 rage per damaging tick

[lusty grotto]

they were trolling me hard ghash xD

[warm plinth]

Ngl I love seeing everyone freaking out trying to kill the one straggler add with breath

Like just cleave it ffs

[ionic fern]

10 rage per tick

[lusty grotto]

i... had problems with that boss cause i kinda got used to that other mmo's auto facing

well not now but yeah

i mean not only with that boss lmao

anyway i was trying to fix it but then i had to camera around to see if im aiming correctly and shit

was not pretty

[icy garden]

ig that makes sense, otherwise there would be a STUPID amount of wasted rage

[warm plinth]

Are you just trying really hard not to say FFXIV or what

[lusty grotto]

yes 😦

[mortal brook]

Did you know that the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV has a free trial, and includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn AND the award-winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime? Sign up, and enjoy Eorzea today! https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/ffxivregister?lng=en-gb

[ionic fern]

That 100% sounds like a bot.

[mortal brook]

🤖

[lusty grotto]

lol

that meme its been a while

[icy garden]

^

45!

[mighty valley]

Let's go

[icy garden]

ravager does donkey dick damage :/

i feel like into the fray would be better for leveling

[onyx vessel]

Rage generator

[icy garden]

ik

but still

[onyx vessel]

Into the fray for a whole 2-4% haste

[mighty valley]

pull the whole area and ravager looks a whole lot better

[icy garden]

yeah thgarts what i noticedd

i havnt decided what i like most for level 30 talent

its kinda feeling like BSC tho

fat roar crits were fun ttho

[mighty valley]

it's probably all pretty close for leveling

pulling huge and then popping BV with all your other cooldowns always felt pretty good to me though

[icy garden]

fair

dragon roar unfortunately isnt the play

[mighty valley]

never been a huge fan

confused ass ability

[icy garden]

BV definitely way to go

i lopve pulling stupid

[lament shell]

What is BV

[icy garden]

biimin voice

err

booming voice

[brittle owl]

BIIM

[lament shell]

I have my rule for taking boomy on more ST and revenge talent for lower kara and such

Juicy 20% for the executes

[next pasture]

how do i survive medivh piercing missiles?

like, it does... damage to me

should i just kick it?

[jagged pier]

CDs

SR last tick

externals

u cant really kick it u need ot kick the other stuff

[drifting socket]

as long as you spell reflect the final tick of arcane missiles you don't get the debuff that increases damage taken

[chrome falcon]

Invite a bunch of kicks so you can kick it 🙂

[strong forum]

Get 2 prot pallies

Worked beautifully in our 25

https://clips.twitch.tv/SavageAuspiciousHawkPipeHype-YmRepI2QSP5Wysqx

[jagged pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/801876810261463041.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[mortal brook]

[wintry nymph]

[blazing condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/997086666961457203/chatting.gif

[uneven mason]

I imagine this would be like that part in captain America civil war where they're bouncing the shield off of him back and forth

[patent osprey]

TRUE

[south zealot]

honestly as a prot warrior in upper

id just play with an rsham

unless your mage/warlock can dodge the fire

[shut summit]

past few days tyvm! 🙃

[modern brook]

Sense streams are pog I'll shill em

[tropic gorge]

Happy Friday my tank friends

[chrome falcon]

watching sense get absolutely massacred by storming is excellent stream content

[tropic gorge]

Lmao

[shut summit]

worst affix I swear

that + fire mage flamestrike shit, can't see anything

[tropic gorge]

Storming is annoying. Esp when you run out of space

[dawn canyon]

How's storming train

[oblique garnet]

Free

[dawn canyon]

So as shit as usual but good for pwar

[wintry nymph]

i just hate storming

[strong forum]

Storming makes me commit tax fraud

[wintry nymph]

its not insanely bad, but just a pain in the ass

[strong forum]

It's so horrible

[tawny maple]

@strong forum with the new added changes to "hold down button to continually cast" is it safe to tape my IP button down in DF?

[wintry nymph]

not fun either

[median tulip]

I wouldn't mind if it knocked me a bit further, so I could get a free Charge in

[strong forum]

Unironically might be good for shieldslam to snipe resets better tho

[tawny maple]

Ill just tape my whole keyboard

Also for Storming just DA

[median tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-keyboard-smash-gif-15394889

[strong forum]

All 3 SL affixes are the worst additions to m+

Hate em

[tawny maple]

:true:

[zealous willow]

Storming fucked me lastnight i wanted to survive dog boss flames on workshop interupted my necro shield channel

[strong forum]

Spiteful lower is gonna be fun for normal groups

[zealous willow]

btw i saw a guy with WA for that dog

[strong forum]

It's just a simple buff tracker

[zealous willow]

when u can dps without hiding its says in chat safe/not safe

[strong forum]

The box of kujo doesn't provide Los safety, but a buff

If you got the buff, you won't get dmged by vents

[dawn canyon]

Or get the big ass icon

Chat is spammy

[strong forum]

So if you position the boss properly, you can still attack him

The buff tracker wa is infinitely better than chat spam

[zealous willow]

I must check it out

[lament shell]

guys the vault ring sim is scam?

sec let me sim it

[chrome falcon]

was also thinking this

hold down SS key basically all the time

[mortal brook]

hold thrash for 38s pogga

[lament shell]

this is real?

vs mecha set

so its stronger ?

[mortal brook]

till it is fixed

[lament shell]

they wont fix it

[chrome falcon]

wait what

i don't understand hang on

so signet is just proccing on everything or?

oh

wait

so it's actually increasing the damage of your weapon instead of just adding damage to your melee swings?

so it's actually like... insane?

[potent anvil]

Yeah the ap bonus acting like weapon dps.

Also, @sick sentinel I timed a 27 grimrail

Had to go blood though

[cobalt seal]

you could prob go higher if blizzard wasn't boring

[lime urchin]

This still works? I thought it was hot fixed in bfa

[cobalt seal]

dungeon is gonna be decided by dps/healer dying to random things

[potent anvil]

31 been done on live. And few people +2'd a 28 so its possible.

[dawn canyon]

Eu gna 36 JY

No copa

🙏

Im getting drunk at a friends house then tgp

Very funny weekend

[patent osprey]

The keys on tournament rea only go to 35 XD they didn't expect JY

[dawn canyon]

That's the joke

Surely they fix that we get 40s

[vernal vale]

Also super annoying as no one really farmed it because mechagon rings.

[cobalt seal]

they wont get JY again

[dawn canyon]

Prediction on maps?

[cobalt seal]

not JY

and no upper is my prediction

(watch it be both day 1)

[dawn canyon]

🙏I predict no lower no ws

[cobalt seal]

Lower is fun to watch

[dense shell]

Hey folks ... first coin for raid trinket
Pocket protoforge
Reactive matrix
Aegis
or Old Warrior ?
and why

[cobalt seal]

pocket protoforge

o_O

why is that even a consideration

[strong forum]

Old warrior soul first

Then matrix
Then aegis

Don't pick protoforge it's way too rng

[stable valve]

What dps trinket nom?

[strong forum]

Ows > sfa >= scars

[dawn canyon]

Scars riskier than sfa

[dense shell]

tnks

reactive and codex ( taza drop) have a common internal cd or can we take both buff ?

[oblique garnet]

[minor helm]

[hazy edge]

You do not want codex

It does absolutely nothing on prot war

But yes you can have both up

[alpine shard]

did someone say codex?

[hearty saffron]

I don't raid at all on my prot warr, I got soh leys trinket but what is the other one I should aim for? The mechano cycle? It has a shed load of strength and hits hard

[hazy edge]

^

Normal ows or rdm are still very strong

[zealous willow]

How u tank the 1st trash on Grimrail Depot u keep them near wall ?

[strong forum]

You don't pick codex at all, as the others already mentioned

And trash on depot you bait into the walls yes

[peak forge]

why do mobs booty blast me on fort 😦

[uneven wagon]

fellas

which one me take

[vernal vale]

Considering you can upgrade your current back and mechagon rings are a thing

Sockets

[uneven wagon]

sockets over a ringt hatas 13 ilvls higher?

i can also take this idk

[strong forum]

Uuuh

[vernal vale]

Cabochon is good

[strong forum]

All of them doodoo, but neck is i guess pretty good, I'd sim it

[vernal vale]

The thing is you want mechagon ring set

[uneven wagon]

those are that good huh

[strong forum]

Honestly just take sockets, and get 2k score

[vernal vale]

^

[strong forum]

The mechagon ring combo is worth 6 sockets

You want them

[toxic pewter]

Yah just get mechagon rings like damekage said

[vernal vale]

Haste 3 attack ring combo is basically 100% uptime on 6 sockets of haste

[uneven wagon]

is there a way to specifically get the rings you need?

uh oh

[oblique garnet]

Only took 60 runs combined to get both

[uneven wagon]

guessing those are better than mythic raid rings?

[vernal vale]

Yup

[patent osprey]

took me 52 runs of workshop just to get the haste half

[uneven wagon]

jesus christ

[vernal vale]

I need my 3 attack one still but I'm only at like 10 runs

[vernal vale]

It's worth

[uneven wagon]

u guys r pretty hardcore on that grind

[vernal vale]

I would be grinding harder if I didn't have a job lol

[uneven wagon]

i havent even done workshop key yet

I hate learning mythic+ as a tank its pretty bad if u dont know what ur doing

[oblique garnet]

Ill admit i was bit sad when i realized i could have gone arms loot spec for better chance of looting it instead of having prot lootspec on 40 runs in and got it after 3 more

[uneven wagon]

whats the %?

[oblique garnet]

Dunno the numbers but atleast it removed the god awful tank trinket from the loot pool

[strong forum]

Took me 3 keys to get the combo

[oblique garnet]

50/50 really you either get it or you dont

[strong forum]

[uneven wagon]

the 50% hp one?

[uneven wagon]

happy for u

[oblique garnet]

This one

[strong forum]

:nodders:

[oblique garnet]

[strong forum]

Time to farm them with leech + socket instead

[oblique garnet]

i had 2x 0 item vaults in a row so i got 4 free sockets from there

[patent osprey]

YOU CAN WHAT?????

[vernal vale]

My set isn't the one I want lol

[strong forum]

Plka..

[patent osprey]

-_-

[strong forum]

[oblique garnet]

I WASNT THE ONLY ONE THANK GOD

[patent osprey]

[vernal vale]

Lol

[uneven wagon]

you can roll leech on them???

[oblique garnet]

yeah

[uneven wagon]

so

idk

[oblique garnet]

No point in trying to farm with leech

[uneven wagon]

im ognna get it with leech on my first try

[vernal vale]

Farming for tertiaries is an insane thing to do

[uneven wagon]

im going to get both rings by only doing one dungeon

im that powerful

[shut summit]

1st run of workshop, 2nd of jy

[oblique garnet]

Fuckoff

[shut summit]

get the loot you deserve

[oblique garnet]

no way

[vernal vale]

I mean this was my first vault of the season

So...

[uneven wagon]

tfw also have to grind ZM dailies for exalted

[hazy edge]

My co-tank is stacked af. Hasn’t even gotten his first dinar yet…

[oblique garnet]

why

for augment?

[uneven wagon]

I want that stupid augment

ye

[oblique garnet]

[uneven wagon]

dont you get a mount or something too

[strong forum]

Only thing that isn't stacked is his tmog game

[vernal vale]

His vers enchant is uh questionable

[strong forum]

Nah

It's for dmg

[lofty widget]

t3 is the shit wdym

[strong forum]

Shit shield?

Weapon doesn't match?

[lofty widget]

true

[strong forum]

Like his tmog is "cool shit that doesn't match"

[uneven wagon]

shouldn't there be a weekly world boss in revendreth

[hazy edge]

He just went with what sims told him to do

[lofty widget]

t3+aegis of agg+thunderfury

bis tmog

[uneven wagon]

aren't those shoulders super coveted

[strong forum]

That's not the point

The point is it doesn't match

[vernal vale]

I guess Sims can at a point want other stats

[hazy edge]

But yeah his tmog is mid tier at best

[strong forum]

Guess im not a fucker then 😦

[vernal vale]

I mean BMAH is a thing

[strong forum]

I want t3

[uneven wagon]

it's kinda like wearing brand clothing but having a shitty outfit

[hazy edge]

Yup. And that’s why you sim. Cause at some point other stats become better. Blindly stacking stats is never the answer

[strong forum]

So, every supreme guy ever

Tabard of lightbringer

But yes void is better

[vernal vale]

I'm probably close to that point where my Sims will tell me to change stuff up

I like void as well

[strong forum]

Wrathful is omega basic

T3 atleast is expensive

Wrathful you can get after 20min of arena

Full set

[uneven wagon]

I think the biggest chad move is wearing full raid set

but the LFR variant

[strong forum]

Pvp exclusive stuff owns

I'm full on the exclusivity hype

I myself like cruel elite glad set

And primal

Very poggers

[hazy edge]

Yeah we’ll YOU’RE very poggers

[strong forum]

Hell yeah

[minor helm]

Make everything exclusive then after like 3 years unlock it cause all those old boomers are mostly gone anyways

[uneven wagon]

I hate when you have a full plate set head to toe armor set

and a bit of skin shows

cover it up, whore

[strong forum]

NO

[minor helm]

[uneven wagon]

guys what do u think about my exclusive transmog from old content

[patent osprey]

TGP Privilage

[shut summit]

[toxic pewter]

Yah I got my mechagon ring set after three dungeons. Beat dps out of bit band too. Felt good

[urban portal]

now the real question is

[tropic gorge]

Last night running an upper 10 I ran into a guy who, the moment the group deviated from his preferred routing lost his shit.
We dropped all the bosses with like 8 minutes to spare and had to go back to clear some trash for %. I didn't think it was bad at all. But this shaman healer pitched an absolute fit. Started crying in chat and sat his ass at the last boss until we finally hit 100 percent.

[urban portal]

are we ditching the mechagon rings for cos rings

[oblique garnet]

Based take

[vernal vale]

Uh, considering legion timealking is done. I guess if you have it congrats.

[tropic gorge]

The t1 warrior set is kinda cool. I also like the trial of the champion set

[strong forum]

I'd be extremely surprised if it isn't fixed by next week

[oblique garnet]

Probably better for damage but worse for survival

[strong forum]

If its fixed and actually only adds the +69 auto attack dmg, it won't win on dps

[toxic pewter]

Wait is cos ring very powerful at the moment

[cobalt seal]

it's "bugged"

[strong forum]

There's a funky interaction where it increases weapon dps instead of auto attack dmg

[toxic pewter]

Oh dang I didn’t realize

Wow

[strong forum]

So feral gets like 2.4k dps from the ring alone

[toxic pewter]

Lmao holy shit feral finally got their buff

[median tulip]

You can still get timewalking keys from the keystone trader dude in Oribos

[urban portal]

every spec gets absurd damage from it

[naive hatch]

does demo shout interact with spell reflect damage?

[urban portal]

yeah gavel on a ring

[toxic pewter]

Dang wish I found out this earlier

Ah

[strong forum]

No

SR reflects pre-mitigation

[naive hatch]

ty

are my secondaries fucked or does this look alright

[lusty tiger]

They’re great

[lofty widget]

if its your highest ilvl its great

[lusty tiger]

Would top gear to be sure

[lusty tiger]

^

[urban portal]

strength is op

[naive hatch]

yeah most of it is highest ilvl but i just feel like i'm lacking on the vers a bit

[lofty widget]

theres no such thing

[lusty tiger]

Who cares about vers

when u have block

And sw every minute

[naive hatch]

aye aye captains

[oblique garnet]

Only time you notice you are lacking a bit of vers is when there is 0 interrupts on any casters

[lusty tiger]

And maybe shadow claws

[oblique garnet]

Other times you just

[sudden shell]

At 270 ilvl doing 16-17 that miniboss scares me

[urban portal]

which miniboss

[sudden shell]

Zulgamox

[tropic gorge]

Man some of the topics and replies on the official forums warrior sub forum are wild

[brittle owl]

wow forums are wild in general

it's like a david attenborough documentary

[sudden shell]

Some ppl have very strong opinions on wow forms

[tropic gorge]

Lmao indeed

[sudden shell]

Wowhead comments always make me laugh tho

Like most angriest ppl

[brittle owl]

wowhead comments are kinda dead though

not what they used to be

[sudden shell]

Ye usually I look at ones in most recent post , could be most positive change

[urban portal]

wowhead comments are spicy

[sudden shell]

And someone will still complain

Like wow karens

Lol 🤣 discord

[tropic gorge]

Last night I finished up the story quest stuff and saw the finale for the redemption arc.
I bet anything blizz makes a mobile game similar to hades for sylv and what she's now doing

If they don't, that's a missed chance

[brittle owl]

skyhold's too square for nsfw chat

[toxic pewter]

How valuable is leech if you guys had to say

[urban portal]

its ok

[south zealot]

not worth ilvl

[urban portal]

nothing special

[south zealot]

its great if you get it on a nice piece

[urban portal]

like 2% leech is around 300 hps or something

its whatever

[toxic pewter]

Just have this 291 aegis with leech, but I think I am planning to use rdm next week. It doesn’t really make or break anything right

Just feels bad but it’s just a first world problem

[tropic gorge]

Icy veins suggests the leech cloak enchant. Is that worth it st all?

[south zealot]

i use fortified leech personally

[south zealot]

still nice for higher keys

[toxic pewter]

Yah fortified leech also

[south zealot]

if you play on pushing

[sudden shell]

I mean warrior defense is pretty solid except maybe magic

[urban portal]

ngl

291 aegis with leech is probably a higher hps

than rdm

[south zealot]

bro some pulls on gambit i get fucked up

[toxic pewter]

Do you think aegis and rdm would be “too much” I’m losing haste

Anyone run that

[urban portal]

no

its not too much

[south zealot]

i personally think ows is too valuable to give up

but thats just me

[sudden shell]

We talking single target or m+

[toxic pewter]

M+

Ya I’ve grown to love my ows

But I keep struggling with the rdm vs aegis with leech

Lol

[south zealot]

try it out

see what you like more

[toxic pewter]

Yes

[urban portal]

i think aegis with leech should just be better

[sudden shell]

Warrior pretty lax on trinkets could just carry few and swap for specific places

[toxic pewter]

The losing of leech is just so annoying 😂

I don’t know why it’s bothering me a lot

I guess I’m just being ocd

[urban portal]

dont worry about it

[ocean yoke]

its always sad feeling losing tertiaries when swapping gear

[sudden shell]

Just buy a 304 500k+ boe with leech to compensate

[tropic gorge]

I can't(won't) stop using the aegis

[toxic pewter]

Lmao

[ocean yoke]

that leech was my boi for so long

[toxic pewter]

I can hardly afford flasks

[sudden shell]

I have a 5% movement speed gem in my gear

Cause guild meme

My rogue goes 130% speed which is nice

Warrior is like 117%

[lusty tiger]

My priest and lock rock Like ~117% ms too

[toxic pewter]

Does speed stack with banner

[lusty tiger]

That’s the 5% and the gem one with another secondary gem

[sudden shell]

I usually get that 262 boe crafted piece on alt but try get speed thing on them

[agile pumice]

I used speed gem on skolex prog cause I was lagging

[sudden shell]

The added mount speed 10% thing also gives speed

[lusty tiger]

I’m gonna regem my warrior for speed now

[sudden shell]

Warrior feel pretty slow sometimes

[lusty tiger]

Faster charge weaving

[sudden shell]

Movement wise lol 😆 action wise gotta Max out apm

[lusty tiger]

I had a codex warrior tank on my alt who had like 34% banner uptime it made me sadge

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FGmrwcRpNbV4MK3a#fight=4&type=summary

[sudden shell]

Must smash all buttons

[patent osprey]

And Nerfed Ring 🙂

[hazy edge]

It’s even higher now in keys especially 🙂

Pretty sure Late has a log with like 100 cpm

[lusty tiger]

UF build yea

Will be hitting those #s

[oblique garnet]

ya but with ravager its like still 90ish in m+

[hazy edge]

Yeah, still way to high imo

[oblique garnet]

needs more imo

[lusty tiger]

Ur poor hands

Do you ice them after a day of keys

[strong forum]

Practice

[shut summit]

Actually do stretch my hands a bunch

[lusty tiger]

I have to stretch before I play melee

I should do that too

[shut summit]

Wrist and forearm stretches or w.e

👴

[hazy edge]

same

helps a ton

[strong forum]

I stretch by spamming Spacebar and a&d

[lusty tiger]

https://youtu.be/rNoDWrVTZPk

[oblique garnet]

stretch while gaming

[lusty tiger]

I do this

[lusty tiger]

For super smash bros melee before I play

[south zealot]

eu prot warrior in tgp pog

[lusty tiger]

Right now?

[south zealot]

no

not live yet

[oblique garnet]

doubt it

Dont think a single one of these tanks plays anything but bdk

[south zealot]

a little copium doesn’t hurt

[lusty tiger]

Yea can’t heal 30k hps don’t want it

[oblique garnet]

naowh is like the only one who might play prot warr

but even then in lower he died once and just never went it again

[lusty tiger]

What did he die to lol

[south zealot]

everyone will go dk for sure

[strong forum]

Na, naowh won't

[south zealot]

dk is so broken

[strong forum]

He's too much of a bdk fanboi

And as Andy also stated, it takes alot to completely relearn a tank you've not played in years

Especially pwar rn

So it's just not worth the effort

[oblique garnet]

Throw coins pre nerf

[south zealot]

yeah prot is different from bfa

the amount of people teling me to double pull those guys pre nerf is insane

[strong forum]

Naowh also stated, that he has no idea about current prot, just knows a few basics and he hasn't played it since CN prep

And just doesn't want to put in the effort

[zinc shale]

fml, getting declined for 25-26s keys

people looking for fotm

[south zealot]

yeah same

[lusty tiger]

My prot warrior only gets into my own keys and my guild keys

Or farming shit

[zinc shale]

i would start my own, but ive got a 27 lower that ive gotta save to make into a 25 and run with my premade

[lusty tiger]

Word

[cobalt seal]

or they looking at logs and seeing 50% banner uptime missing

[zinc shale]

imagine timing my juicy 27 lower

[cobalt seal]

[lusty tiger]

Woah

Is ur warrior “Gear” the player *?

[oblique garnet]

Im getting to keys fine

[zinc shale]

297

[cobalt seal]

are you pressing IP like nerf?

just when you need it?

[zinc shale]

heh, banner uptime isnt what beats the key

[lusty tiger]

Hopefully he’s kidding

[cobalt seal]

I'm not

[lusty tiger]

Packs are gonna hurt bad without banner

At that level

[oblique garnet]

Aye

[zinc shale]

there are ways to deal with that

[lusty tiger]

Like banner uptime

[cobalt seal]

yes

[zinc shale]

except for that

[cobalt seal]

banner uptimer higher than 43%

you do less dmg

packs last longer

you take more dmg

[oblique garnet]

You generate less rage = you heal less

[zinc shale]

curious, what dungeon are you talking about? or what run even

My last gambit, had 74%. Thats with a potatopc hunter whitescreening the teleports including stealth skip

which leaves no way to keep it up during these times

[lusty tiger]

I’m mostly curious how cro actually knew

[south zealot]

theres no way the pug leaders look at prot warrior banner uptime

[zinc shale]

ive been logging lately, probably how

[south zealot]

for 25s and 26s

[cobalt seal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wv1XPjr9QN3x8tqD#fight=19&type=auras&source=1

[lusty tiger]

No shot

[zinc shale]

yeah that was a shit one, death on first boss and had to wait out the ress

Then deaths during the trainrun

shit happens

[south zealot]

bro i applied to a 25 grimrail

bc my friend was streaming

and the leader took a different prot warrior

who was fucking kyrian

[minor helm]

[south zealot]

awful gameplay happened from that

[strong forum]

Well according to your other logs there you still hover around 50-60% in keys, 74% at best

That's uh. Suboptimal

[zinc shale]

Then again, still timing high keys

[strong forum]

Sure can't deny that

But can always play better

[zinc shale]

for sure, not saying my banner timer is on point

[cobalt seal]

what would pugs want a sub-optimal pwar or a bdk

[toxic pewter]

So you have a way to see banner uptime over all keys easily or were you just browsing

[cobalt seal]

[toxic pewter]

I’m actually curious for myself

[strong forum]

Just checking the logs

[toxic pewter]

Ok

[south zealot]

i was timing like 22s hella early into the season and i was at like 40% banner uptime on average lmfao

did a jy yesterday and got my first 90+%

[strong forum]

In my fucked up gd24 I had 89% banner cuz I died with a freshly applied banner so I had to go 1pack without it

[minor helm]

[lofty widget]

worst feeling

[strong forum]

Yeup

And it was a lust pull too

[south zealot]

[strong forum]

So I was half afk an entire pull

[south zealot]

time to alt f4

[strong forum]

Still did 16.9k overall without weapons but meh

[toxic pewter]

how many seconds on banner roughly should I have after last stand 15 second window expires

[lofty widget]

must be nice to have 4 other tanks to fall back on

[strong forum]

I usually am around 25

[toxic pewter]

Ok

[strong forum]

very comfy

[zinc shale]

try invising to zulgamux on fort, lust him and then backtrack the % into the boss

[south zealot]

can you switch specs mid key

[toxic pewter]

I really am learning just how important last stand is

[oblique garnet]

hes not even having aggro the most of the time just dies to mechanics

Same as i when i do 5 tank keys

[south zealot]

standing jn fire is more rage right

[strong forum]

That sounds very convoluted and unnecessary

[south zealot]

more dps more banner uptime

[strong forum]

Timer in GD is omega free

Just don't die and you time it

[oblique garnet]

^

[south zealot]

idk about u guys but i skip zul gamux in every situation i can

[zinc shale]

thats what they do in high keys apparently

high GD keys*

[cobalt seal]

just a advice. while waiting for invites

go to dummy

[toxic pewter]

Can zul gamux in grimrail only be pulled before boss by certain classes or what. I did it once but haven’t been able to replicate the pull lately

[cobalt seal]

and get that banner uptime higher

[south zealot]

frost mage in gambit yesterday didnt deathborne zul gamux and it took us 4 mins to kill

[zinc shale]

no the wall isnt a wall, you can range through it

[strong forum]

Stand next to the door and heroic throw

[toxic pewter]

Its weird I’ve been taunting heroic throwing everything but it’s not working last two time

[strong forum]

Only the door is Los

[toxic pewter]

Ok must be my position

[strong forum]

The wall isn't

[toxic pewter]

Ahh that explains it

[south zealot]

u can just attack through the wall

[toxic pewter]

Are you guys pulling two packs at start of grimrail

[south zealot]

tgp starting soon pog

[zinc shale]

nah, the first 4 or whatever it is

You skip the guys to the left

by walking the wall

[lofty widget]

i skip the first 4 cause its cringe to run 110 % routes

[toxic pewter]

Yeah some groups ask me but I think it’s safer just first pack then skip next yea

[strong forum]

We skip 2 overseers

[lofty widget]

but timer is so omega free you can do whatever you want and stil ltime

[strong forum]

Do a triple pull with Lust and 2 infiltrators

[zinc shale]

Hm? You could skip the goblin uptop but the others you cant?

[strong forum]

Then chain pull to Zug

Then go boss

[toxic pewter]

I see

[strong forum]

That seems meh

[zinc shale]

here, do better one

[south zealot]

yeah i do that one

[strong forum]

We do this

[lyric laurel]

yeah those 2 chargers are annoying

[zinc shale]

So you invis?

[strong forum]

No?

You don't need invis

Just walk, lol

[lyric laurel]

If you reset the boss btw, when they spawn back they dont move

[south zealot]

why do the extra 3 mobs

[lyric laurel]

so you can pull the miniboss thru the wall and have space to move around

[cobalt seal]

free stats

and you can BL

[strong forum]

^

[toxic pewter]

I will admit I like three dreadlords you get with this

[zinc shale]

as long as you skip one or the other in the beginning xd

[strong forum]

We just skip the 2 overseers at the wall

Rest we hold W

And have a good time

Dungeon is beyond free

[zinc shale]

have a good time

until you miss a flametough

[strong forum]

Just move

And cry cuz of storming

[south zealot]

ive never had a dps stun flametongue

ever

[strong forum]

I love that he perma Re-casts it

Very fun

[zinc shale]

getting the cast through is one thing

but the other is that it sort of melts into the floor

along with the other granade skill circle thing

[oblique garnet]

Nah it goes on cd

And wont cast it for a while

Youre thinking shrapnels from gunners

[zinc shale]

So you move out of the grenade circle, and miss the flametongue 😄

[strong forum]

Idk chief, the one I stunned with shockwave in my 24 insta re-cast it

🙂

[oblique garnet]

Theres one pack where there is 2 cinderseers

[strong forum]

It was the same one

I swear

[oblique garnet]

Doubt

Unless you precast it

[south zealot]

alright everyone guess dungeons

def gambit and grimrail right

[shut summit]

they dont recast if stopped

[mellow bridge]

Sense has spoken

Be quiet plebeian Nome

[oblique garnet]

[tropic gorge]

Grimrail is mean. The train part is.... Brutal

[oblique garnet]

I LOVE GRIMRAIL

[south zealot]

FUCK GRIMRAIL

[zinc shale]

I like the timer in grimrail xd

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/WedY0yx.png

sus

https://i.imgur.com/feSw4EQ.png