protection

[chrome falcon]

considering 90 is not 100

[sick sentinel]

so it took a full 5 seconds to loo at it and work out where i could walk and not didnt die or nothing, but sure would hate to go in a 15 20 and not know how thst crap works

generally speaking though, i play a mage mostly these days, and yes i know about thr altered time discord im already in there

[chrome falcon]

ok

[sick sentinel]

so, ill save my mage specific questions for them, if tgey dont answer "go sim" on repeat 5 times

[oblique garnet]

Think its fine i think upper will probably be fortified

[chrome falcon]

yeah

i think that dungeon is just too fucked on high tyr

so probs 25 fort upper and 26 tyr junk?

but i wanna see some 🚋

and maybe you can just wear cheat death trinket for those high medivhs anyway and be kinda ok

[lilac bloom]

i'm having so much trouble with first boss for lower karazan

i can't seem to pass it

just wondering can i use shield block and spell reflect for that aoe cast

galindra's magic magnificent

i can't seem to get around it

[south zealot]

i doubt it personally

[sick sentinel]

have to set up interupt /reflect rotations between you and another dps for dreary bolts, you could do "my interupt, reflect, rogue interupt" and then on flashy have the other 2 dps and healer rotate interupt

[south zealot]

its monstrously overtuned

[sick sentinel]

bolt hit me as dps for like, 40k on a 14

[south zealot]

like this current boss on these affixes is the hardest thing ive ever tried in wow

[lilac bloom]

yah i never face a boss like this in lower kara

so hard

can do it on 5

but on 10 above

totaly impossible

[south zealot]

lower this week is like 8 key levels harder than something like jy or streets

[lilac bloom]

i tried to use shield wall for the aoe

after that.. we just keep dying

because we couldn't kill adds, bombs and boss just do something that totaly wipes us all

[sick sentinel]

if i had to guess its something to do with the frequency of the cast of the 2 bolts and the time of cast, or time in-between casts should be nerfed somewhere between 20-50%

rather than the bolts themselves, HP as ppl mention too high too

[south zealot]

killing the adds isnt realistic

[lofty widget]

you have to step into the purple stuff on the ground when she does her big cast

[lilac bloom]

yah that i know.. but healers are like overwhelm by it

like some say they step on it and still get hit

[sick sentinel]

i swear to christ the DOS dealer mechanic of wikket bugged out on my group

[south zealot]

they just are doing it wrong

[lilac bloom]

i dont know if there's a strategy but i''ve been running around collecting adss and running away from the circle thing on the floor

[sick sentinel]

we had about 50 of the things down, and then they never casted the spell that i saw

or like 1 times

cuz, i have BW that calls out the spell name phonetically

[lilac bloom]

i just want to know if ppl who did the dungeon on high key actually killed it .. in what strat because i can't seem to get it done

[sick sentinel]

if i am lucky i have footage of the fight

[lilac bloom]

so.. do u rely on stepping purple or do u just use shield wall and spell reflect for soaking the damage

unless.. off cos i use the wall LEGGO

[lofty widget]

you HAVE to step on the purple stuff, no amount of defensives will save you in higher keys

[lilac bloom]

So i have to jump on it

regardless how ppl is telling me to use my defensive for not stepping on it

[lofty widget]

yes

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[lofty widget]

they are wrong

[sick sentinel]

look at this

[lilac bloom]

ok

[sick sentinel]

12 that i can count at least

[dawn canyon]

ok

[lilac bloom]

so.. sometimes.. when i try to stand on the next purple swirly they dissapear..

how do u make sure it stays

[sick sentinel]

starts as swirly

turns to cloud

2 phases

it starts as a swirly so you have chance to see it and move out before it sets the trap

[naive panther]

The fight gets hectic. It gets even worse when people don't kick enough. Then adds have excessive hp. Maybe my recent groups just aren't focused on them enough cause alone I can't kill them even as a dps. But I've had two runs where fight was pretty clean, higher skilled players

[chrome falcon]

you can't really focus adds

it's not realistic

[lilac bloom]

i see i knew the adds are overwhelming

[chrome falcon]

if you try to kill every add wave as they spawn

[sick sentinel]

i dunno if u can reflect that magical magnificence shit, but i know you can in DOS, have to ask someone more advanced here if you can just sit and reflect

[chrome falcon]

you'll be there for 5+ mins

you have to kill like 2 or 3 waves of adds then just tunnel boss down

[lilac bloom]

doesn't work

i ran out of shield block and try to spell refelct

end up dying

[sick sentinel]

is it you have to be facing stuff to reflect it skyhold?

[lilac bloom]

and u know what.. melee dps would walk over the swirly i'm on and end up me dying

and at times i would walk to one and they end up dissapearing.. which is awkward

[sick sentinel]

i dunno maybe the play is to lust when the first adds come out, if it doesn't mess with the timing of doing the mechanic, that way players can drop cleaving CD's/spells

then, you just kill the adds in 3 seconds that way and can truly funnel boss, just a random idea

[lilac bloom]

yah.. that could work

oh wells i just got to get the swirlys right.. then

not going to do that shield wall and sp

[chrome falcon]

ignore what yogi just said that's a bad idea

[sick sentinel]

make it clear which swirly boy you want, by standing close-ish to it

[chrome falcon]

and you can just SW+SR the big knock

you're not doing keys that high enough

for that to not work

[sick sentinel]

then, its less likely someon just steals your swirl, i did that to the hunter 😦

[lilac bloom]

well i do have the wall leggo

just for that boss..

[dawn canyon]

craft reprisal

[lilac bloom]

i also have reprisal too

[dawn canyon]

ah misread

[lilac bloom]

i was using it

[sick sentinel]

well i did say it was just a random idea,

[dawn canyon]

all good then

[lilac bloom]

i'm just hating this boss fight

my whole day ruined cos of this boss

[chrome falcon]

do not wear the wall

[lilac bloom]

i try 11,12,14,.. fail.. 5 ok..

[lime urchin]

What boss?

[sick sentinel]

wikket sounds like

[lilac bloom]

the first boss of lower kara

[sick sentinel]

thats the one i've been discussing with him

[lilac bloom]

the worst boss ever that blizzard buffed

i thought monroe was hard.

this.. is way harder

[sick sentinel]

nah, moroes is easy imo

[lilac bloom]

yah.. at first i was new.. then its ok..

[sick sentinel]

he's pretty much a do nothing if you have any immunities and you don't break CC

[lilac bloom]

but this takes the prize winner

well.. going to try again tommorow.. thx for the tip.. i think ijust stick to jumping on purple swirlys and getting knocked in the air and hopefuly others dont die from this.. but most likely they will die

and ggs after that..

[lament shell]

Are the gavel nerfs and sigil buff leaks real?

[alpine shard]

no

[chrome falcon]

if a leak says they're buffing sigil it's definitely not real

that trinket already owns

[lament shell]

To 4 min instead of 5min

Thats what i heard

[chrome falcon]

that would be wild

[foggy elk]

unholy stocks rising

[chrome falcon]

any source?

[sweet summit]

antumbra already works like the "leak" nerfs it

xd

[chrome falcon]

4 min sigil would be sick for a lot of 2 min classes

[sweet summit]

so

[sweet summit]

grenade?

[lament shell]

Gavel still good on guardian not nerfed enough

Kekw

[drifting fable]

yeah thats not real

[sweet summit]

don't think gavel ever got nerfed

[lament shell]

Its a leak

[drifting fable]

2 second google solved that

[sweet summit]

only got buffed with crit interaction fix

18th was two days ago

[lament shell]

Idk dont care

The sigil buff is nice tho

[sweet summit]

when did it get buffed?

[lament shell]

I didnt

Maybe they move it to next reset

[sweet summit]

mhm

[jagged pier]

that doesnt look real

[lament shell]

This week you spend your dinar maybe thats why they didnt want to confuse people

[chrome falcon]

they're all pretty believable changes

[drifting fable]

its not. blizzard also specifically said they didnt want to fuck with the items too much past the staet of s4

[chrome falcon]

but also a week late

^

they wouldn't change this shit after people have spent a dinar imo

[drifting fable]

exactly

[chrome falcon]

but maybe

[sweet summit]

but antumbra already works like that so why would it say that

[chrome falcon]

wouldn't surprise me if there was some cheesey way to keep it tbf

after that bag slot 16/17 stuff with gavel

[sick sentinel]

so thats just people overdosing on hopium?

[sweet summit]

that shit was funny as fuck

[sick sentinel]

that picture of buffed trinkets

i have no idea wtf an antumbra is

[sweet summit]

rygelon weapon

[sick sentinel]

is that the intellect stack thing

[lament shell]

Not game breaking changes if they were true

[undone verge]

the allied races vulpera quest makes me hate vulpera even more

[lament shell]

Dont be furry

[undone verge]

theyre like, 'to get into the horde, we need to solve all of these problems the horde is having so they'll see we are useful' and how do they do this? THEY MAKE ME DO IT

for like 15 gold

[sick sentinel]

i unlocked vulperas and boosted a monk

never ever played him

[lament shell]

Bro great push pov they dont show the team with warrior tank

Unfort

[sick sentinel]

yeah, there was a great push video last night

i only saw it very briefly

[strong forum]

nice leak

famous community manager "Keklamer"

very true and real

for anyone who didnt get it by now

its fake af

[oblique garnet]

Ok so taking mastery from affix wont be worth even in physical heavy dungeons

You lose so much sb uptime

From just the base cd reduction that haste brings

Especially when there are bosses etc where you cant reliably charge for reprisal

[queen stag]

I'm currently using Reprisal. I want to run the "Double Time" talent to maximise my lego, but I find that I can't get by without picking Storm Bolt... the amount of times I need to stun things because dps either don't interrupt or stun is mind-boggling...

Anyone else also have this issue?

I'm tanking 15's atm and leveling there because I want to start getting BIS gear

[strong forum]

i was the same at first, but missing doubletime hurts your own performance a decent chunk

its a direct rage,mitigation and dmg upgrade to play double time

[queen stag]

I know... but storm bolt has saved a key so many times

[strong forum]

but it is factual that stormbolt is insanely good in pugs

[queen stag]

Yeah I am pugging primarily

[strong forum]

it can prove useful, but you still have intim shout and shockwave as ways of stopping shit

[edgy grail]

can block while in bladestorm?

[strong forum]

yes

[edgy grail]

tyvm

[strong forum]

but bladestorm is a dogshit button for prot

actually a dps-loss to not cancelaura it

i generally dont recommend running signet as its strictly bad for us

[edgy grail]

yea just not other option rn

[strong forum]

how

[edgy grail]

I need to make it

[strong forum]

just run1 torghast wing

[lament shell]

Torghast ☠️

[strong forum]

a 235 reprisal will be better than 291 signet

[queen stag]

Perhaps he is poor

[edgy grail]

im just going some lfr to get the flkux for it so I can make 291

but I was just curious as to how it worked

[lament shell]

Tbh just craft jumper legendary

Irs very strong for banner uptime

[edgy grail]

is banner best even in lower keys?

[queen stag]

I did intim shout while tanking a 15 Gambit and it was a fucking shitshow with the murlocs xD

[edgy grail]

like 20-24 ish

[strong forum]

100%

[edgy grail]

cool tyvm

[strong forum]

banner is only "bad" in like 12s and lower

[edgy grail]

ok gotcha makes sense ty

[lament shell]

Check mats tutorial on how to keep up banner

Is good

[edgy grail]

that in faq?

[lament shell]

Pins here

[south zealot]

anyone know tgp is live again

[edgy grail]

cool thanks!

[lament shell]

19 i think server time

[strong forum]

^

[south zealot]

so like just under 3 hours?

[lament shell]

yes

[south zealot]

ok

[delicate parrot]

is there suggested mastery%?

[mellow bridge]

no

you shouldnt care about any stat %

[delicate parrot]

ok good

[mellow bridge]

except if you are hitting 40% unbuffed haste

just go ilvl > haste > vers for def/crit for dmg

and youre good to go

[delicate parrot]

im at 53% mastery and thought i was getting diminishing returns

[strong forum]

You start getting DR on mastery after 1050 mastery rating

[undone verge]

Is 40% haste our DR point?

[strong forum]

% work differently for every spec

40% haste is where you hit 20% DR, so you start losing out on a good chunk of value

[undone verge]

gotcha

[mellow bridge]

yeah

[undone verge]

ill have to check around where im standing

[mellow bridge]

haste/crit/vers have the same % DRs for every class

[undone verge]

I think im around 36% unbuffed

[mellow bridge]

mastery has unique % so you need to know the number

36% is great

[south zealot]

getting 40% unbuffed is super hard

[strong forum]

I have 30% haste

29% crit

[delicate parrot]

sick

[mellow bridge]

first weekend of playing some real keys finally

[south zealot]

oof i tried that key

think i couldve tanked it but dps and heals were struggling to live lmao

nice job

[lunar slate]

Nice @mellow bridge 💪

[undone verge]

37% unbuffed

and I have mechagon haste ring and Heroic OWS

[oblique garnet]

False

Just have all sockets ez

[south zealot]

ez

tru

imagine getting dr

noob

[oblique garnet]

And

TGP waiting room

Been doing some boosts while waiting

Got a bit over 1m

[south zealot]

cant wait to see prot in upper today

[jagged pier]

[alpine shard]

the most gigachad would be to not play prot in upper

[strong forum]

and the commentators would go

[alpine shard]

play it everywhere except for upper

[strong forum]

"what can you reflect here?"

"they nerfed SR on medivh, hmmm"

[sweet summit]

"what secret +400 mastery tech is there here?"

no

[strong forum]

what

[sweet summit]

they do crazy cleave damage

no utility bro

[alpine shard]

the aoe slow for the mini mana devourers man

bis

[sweet summit]

so true actually

yea and u can PI ur warlock !

[strong forum]

gaming

[shut summit]

ya wouldnt play prot in upper

[jagged pier]

:KEKW:

[jagged pier]

:KEKW:

[chrome falcon]

It’s fucked up that BDK just breaks mana devourer so it’s probably just better in upper for TGP format

[strong forum]

idk, prot kinda removes last boss

[lament shell]

True true

[alpine shard]

and chess event

with the 2mil reflect

[shut summit]

medivh and mana wyrm just fuck

[mellow bridge]

ngl maybe im just bad but i dont see how prot can live higher than like 28 upper

[strong forum]

yeah

[jagged pier]

actually wonder if they know about last boss

[strong forum]

BDK is good against the walls

[south zealot]

last boss is omega free tho isnt it

like compared to the other 3

[alpine shard]

could prob play prot in the easier levels and then swap to bdk once it gets spicy

[mellow bridge]

yea

[strong forum]

its free, but the time gain is insane if you can get there with pwar

[sweet summit]

time loss tho no?

[mellow bridge]

pwarr is probably better timewise if you could pull it off

[south zealot]

i wouldnt be worried about time in upper

[mellow bridge]

but i dont think you can live

[sweet summit]

with relog time and shit

[alpine shard]

i mean

[south zealot]

id be more worried about actually completing the key

[alpine shard]

relogging takes a couple of seconds

[strong forum]

ya, assuming you can get past devourer, pwar will save literal minutes

[sweet summit]

maybe i'm just too used to my minute long loading streens...

[alpine shard]

dude i got a new pc a couple of weeks ago and i went from 5 minute loading screens to 10 second loading screens

[south zealot]

POGGG

[sweet summit]

that's nuts

silm stream when?

[alpine shard]

when i have a 2nd monitor maybe

[strong forum]

[sweet summit]

new excuse..

[strong forum]

not having a 2nd monitor in 2022

[sweet summit]

smh

[alpine shard]

yep

[strong forum]

bruh

[alpine shard]

mate

until a couple of months ago i didnt even have money for a 2nd monitor

[strong forum]

2nd monitor is literally eye opening

[alpine shard]

now i have other priorities before that

[oblique garnet]

Ayo?!

[alpine shard]

once it's time i'll buy a 2nd one

[strong forum]

sucks being poor

fr fr

[sweet summit]

pogo for u

[alpine shard]

yes

[lament shell]

Spawn rng

[sweet summit]

gg link pls

ty king

[alpine shard]

yeah lmao

people on live are still 5+ ilvls behind

[strong forum]

ya thats a bit funny

[alpine shard]

technically ambition got the world first 28 tho

yeah

[strong forum]

season is barely 3 weeks old

"NEW WORLD RECORD"

no shit bitch

[alpine shard]

we have only had hard weeks too

[south zealot]

and already 1/3 done feelsbadman

[alpine shard]

next 2 weeks are the first push weeks, and people are still missing ilvl

[strong forum]

theyre gonna ramp today

[mellow bridge]

Sense is gonna show us the hidden prot tech for 30s

and win the event

[sweet summit]

[alpine shard]

[strong forum]

5 tank

[alpine shard]

imagine doing junkyard in like 5 pulls

[strong forum]

JY

[south zealot]

hmm i wonder what the guardian druid tech is

hmmge

[sweet summit]

they announce JY and sense solos it for the 25
just because he can

[strong forum]

druid tech is "pull unnecessarily big"

[south zealot]

what if incarn runs out

[sweet summit]

press barkskin

and get it back

[strong forum]

^

[alpine shard]

play 5 bears and just chain incarns

[sweet summit]

true

[strong forum]

and what do you do on bosses

[sweet summit]

thrash

[strong forum]

zap cock

[south zealot]

any zappers

[alpine shard]

pull trash onto bosses obv

[south zealot]

dude these team names

are so braindead

i love it

[toxic pewter]

should i be using codex on ryg or is that not a thing for prot warr

[alpine shard]

yeah i love the team names in mdi and tgp

[undone verge]

6th place gotta change their name to fifth place

[south zealot]

hearing oldge and HUH??!!?! over and over is so funny

[sweet summit]

pee oh vee

[undone verge]

floorp ov

[south zealot]

FLOORP

[sweet summit]

are they gonna start on time today

[mellow bridge]

they fixed the 28 lower

showing as WR now

[sweet summit]

sad

!

surely

it's not that hard innit

why do u want grimrail

[strong forum]

cuz its the most boring!!

[viral axle]

would this be better to use over a 275 scale?

[south zealot]

what did u say erga

LMAOO

[sweet summit]

huh?

[oblique garnet]

Grimrail owns

[strong forum]

offensively, ofc

[south zealot]

tru

but big number

[sweet summit]

but like see big number key

[undone verge]

yeah but I wanna see how big number get

[strong forum]

^

[oblique garnet]

JY will probably just be tomorrow

[sweet summit]

real

real

real

[south zealot]

jy for global finals

would be wokege asf

[sweet summit]

and KR + shrine

UPPER

[strong forum]

finals will be Freehold Awakened + Reaping

🙏

[sweet summit]

fort

hmm

[south zealot]

UPPER POG

[alpine shard]

upper kara let's gooo

[undone verge]

UPPER LESGO

[toxic pewter]

inc spell reflect?

[undone verge]

predicted it

[oblique garnet]

Called it

[sweet summit]

yea

kinda sadgj

[undone verge]

also called fort

[lament shell]

Kekw

[sweet summit]

i did not call it

[toxic pewter]

LETS SEE SOME SPELL REFLECTORS

[undone verge]

still called it

[sweet summit]

yeah

i said what i said too

[oblique garnet]

These would be so good for prot

Honestly it can

[sick sentinel]

like i said, don't be caught off guard on tuesday by raging fort trash bolts

[sweet summit]

dratnos with SR Ttech!

!

he knows!

[alpine shard]

they dont know the king reflect tech

[sick sentinel]

100% + 30% + other

its gunna hurt

[sweet summit]

what country is the flag btw

[oblique garnet]

Raging king reflect

[timber nest]

how dp we feel about the

[sweet summit]

AYO?

[oblique garnet]

It just dies

[lament shell]

Good for pulling stuff out of range

[sweet summit]

catalyst them

[lament shell]

Bis

[alpine shard]

man the twitch stream is so far behind

[sweet summit]

why'd you watch on twitch over yt when yt is ahead?

[undone verge]

[alpine shard]

because i have twitch open already anyway and i would have to search it on youtube

[sweet summit]

no u just tell gg to link it

[undone verge]

sense running dk in upper

[lament shell]

Saved

[undone verge]

time to reroll dk

[lament shell]

Good shit we wouldv get nerfed

[dawn canyon]

Upper no pwar

[undone verge]

dont worry guys

hes just saving it for the higher keys

[chrome falcon]

Warrior is faster in upper

But BDK is 100x safer

So it makes sense

No pun intended

[lament shell]

Bdk giga safe tank

[oblique garnet]

Oh cool 4 identical comps on screen

[chrome falcon]

[lament shell]

But why wouldnt they play fury warrior

[sweet summit]

not true

there is one kyrian dk

among the nf ones

!

[alpine shard]

you think people will start running kyrian blood dk on live too now that it has seen use in tgp?

[lament shell]

Na inventing new meta with nf

Kekw

[alpine shard]

but they wont have the permanent mastery from prot warrior flag

[south zealot]

bdk upper bedge

[lament shell]

Who would profit from mastery in this meta

[sweet summit]

wtf is oldge pulling

[oblique garnet]

Wasnt dks always kyrian or am i high?🤔 this tier

And only necro for some

[sweet summit]

NF is slightly better in keys afaik

[alpine shard]

yes

they can play nf now because they get enough haste from the affix to no longer require kyrian

[lament shell]

Didnt naowh shit talk on tweeter?

[oblique garnet]

Yeah

[sweet summit]

what'd he say

[alpine shard]

drama? 👀

[lament shell]

Na trolling with nf bdk

Tldr

[sweet summit]

not pwar don't care

[south zealot]

guys

what are upper affixes

[sweet summit]

raging explo

[south zealot]

im an idiot its on the screen

LMAO

[sweet summit]

yep

[south zealot]

raging is omega turbo free

explosives isnt a big deal either

[alpine shard]

blood dk doing 12k dps on medivh

[south zealot]

yeah i think they try to have affixes

[sweet summit]

are u ancient enough and sentient enough to remember silvermoon drama?

unfort

well idk if i'd even call it drama

[south zealot]

could 3 chest it with prot warrior

bedge

[alpine shard]

[oblique garnet]

On the bright side gavel will probably get nerfed after tgp

[alpine shard]

nah

they said that they're not gonna be nerfing weapons and shit because people commit dinars to them and then when they get nerfed it's just sad

[sweet summit]

give me another dinar to compensate

oka

[alpine shard]

true

[sweet summit]

[oblique garnet]

Cache and gavel need nerf tho

2 turbo broken items

Hey atleast we can adjust a weapon :))

Or choose a shield with higher defensive

Very cool

[sweet summit]

as much as i want an OP one hander for prot i don't want an OP one hander for fury

lol

[alpine shard]

just remove smf

[sweet summit]

yea hate smf

cringe addition

[alpine shard]

they could just make a special effect 1h that's not strong enough to outweigh the power of 2h weapons

should be easy with gavel existing

[sweet summit]

watch me

didn't someone miss count in grimrail

not tgp related

but i remember seeing a screenshot in here

[oblique garnet]

Yeah if you skip

[sweet summit]

that was very funny to me

[oblique garnet]

In the beginning

[sweet summit]

that's a tbc dungeon and they did not have count requirements, silly you

probably same name

[lament shell]

• no reflect

[sweet summit]

doubt it

but 2 chest is fine no?

oh good math

u right

[lament shell]

Wth last boss has more mechanics than just casting

[alpine shard]

source for that first claim?

[lime trail]

Hey who do you guys intervene to on Lords and when? Doing it on the co-tank feels awkward between the specific positioning and Malganis' magic butt touch

[sweet summit]

WOW donut and bear team so far ahead

they are GAMING

[alpine shard]

fo sho

[south zealot]

guys i have insider knowledge

prot warrior with unbreakable will on higher uppers

copium

[lament shell]

Details is so important in wow why doesnt blizz steal it

[sweet summit]

could say the same about weak auras too etc

[toxic pewter]

anyone know if i have to redo my spell queue every time i log in? or does it save

[sweet summit]

should save unless you alt f4ed/got dced

[toxic pewter]

Ok ty

[alpine shard]

because now it doesnt cost them any money

if they steal it it will take up developer time

now it's free for them

[south zealot]

ambition washed

kekw

[oblique garnet]

Not worth

[lament shell]

But you have a wow turnament and they have to use details

[south zealot]

tru but

[alpine shard]

yesterday they didnt even show sixth place on last boss 28 streets and now they put ambition on the big screen for last boss 28 streets

[sweet summit]

they also use timer weak aura no?

that's not default m+ ui

[alpine shard]

yo

imagine the mass spell reflect lego in upper

on the king

[south zealot]

i use that dame timer

[alpine shard]

just 1shot the king with 3 spell reflects

[sweet summit]

inshallah

[south zealot]

mass spell reflect in iron docks

duhh

[alpine shard]

xd

you can also chain reflects on the last boss in upper with mass spell reflect

im pretty sure it lasts long enough to reflect 2 casts

meta breaking

kyrian warlock in upper kara?

i guess for first boss

that is a big wall

[oblique garnet]

Apparently was for king

Idk

[alpine shard]

isnt the crit buff way too short for that

just have the prot warrior rally

[oblique garnet]

The warlock died to shit on the ground

[south zealot]

they jump on the person with agro

what is she saying

[oblique garnet]

Disc priest tech

[oblique garnet]

^

[cobalt seal]

hope of what

o_O

yeah

[south zealot]

sense prot carries

wym

[cobalt seal]

they would need a tank for that

unless they replace the tank they wont win

[south zealot]

what tank are

[cobalt seal]

a actually tank

that presses average buttons

[south zealot]

who even is their tank

[alpine shard]

lmao did you see what happened to oldge

[cobalt seal]

"where rune" is nerf favorite catchphrase

[south zealot]

isnt nerf a gamer

[alpine shard]

they had a warlock gate up to avoid the flame cast, but it went into a flame wreath

so the person using the gateway to avod the fire cast gated into the flame wreath and exploded them

[cobalt seal]

no?

[sweet summit]

nerf is good at playing the dungeons, for sure

[cobalt seal]

Just watch his banner dropping after 30s

[sweet summit]

but sounds like he's not that good at playing the specs

[alpine shard]

i mean isnt that a thing with all the fotm rerollers

[sweet summit]

asdg

[oblique garnet]

No

Your average top100 raid tank can play w/e class

[dawn canyon]

Nerf good at keys

[oblique garnet]

[cobalt seal]

[oblique garnet]

He is good at keys

[alpine shard]

someone who can play every tank isnt a fotm reroller

nerf plays whatever tank is the meta and ignores the rest

[cobalt seal]

???

[dawn canyon]

Cant be too shit at game to play tgp

[south zealot]

are any tanks even hard

[cobalt seal]

He isnt shit at the game. He is shit at playing the specs

[dawn canyon]

Fotm would be being new to BDK and then playing it imo

[cobalt seal]

shit take

[oblique garnet]

Until it causes a wipe/deplete due to misplay its not an issue

[timber nest]

if you go FoB build do you drop unity or the MS leggo?

[cobalt seal]

(which is not the case with nerf)

[oblique garnet]

#arms

[sweet summit]

drop eb for signet

[south zealot]

dude rhay ficking sneeze

homy shit

holy

[dawn canyon]

Never drop unity

Wtf

[oblique garnet]

I mean he has good players by his side to cover for it like yesterday jpc with the clutch binding

Its a team game anyways

You can only get so far by yourself

[cobalt seal]

Prob is he gonna have to pay for elles medical bills

because his back is gonna start to hurt

if they dont already

Imagine having a healer telling you to stop playing pwar

[dawn canyon]

Ambition with naowh as tank would be quite something

[cobalt seal]

because he wont heal you

[dawn canyon]

Did he do that

[cobalt seal]

elles did that

[cinder storm]

jpc being shotcaller, asuna has always been solid, elle is pretty organized when it comes to cds and oneezy is chill

nerf is good but his team is godtier

[south zealot]

i did a jy yesterday where i was healed the least out of everyone

like 18% of priests healing was on me

[alpine shard]

still wouldnt be as good as echo

[oblique garnet]

Meanwhile my healer goes its so chill to heal warrior can just always dps

[dawn canyon]

Aszuna firemage probably better that Echos options, but gingi plays it well too

[alpine shard]

i mean as long as they're in it doesnt mean what rank they got in qualis

[cobalt seal]

echo dps run laps on ambition

[dawn canyon]

It's a different dynamic for echo so idk if u can compare

[sweet summit]

they didn't?

[dawn canyon]

Healer wise id say it's equal

[sweet summit]

oh shit

[south zealot]

cromation

if ur so good

[sweet summit]

sheesh

[dawn canyon]

DrJay

[south zealot]

why dont u compete

[alpine shard]

in tgp?

[south zealot]

find some players make some money

[alpine shard]

because in mdi qualis matter for seeding

but in tgp they dont

[dawn canyon]

"every player can +30 if they spend the time" chatting

@sick sentinel dude they stole echo guild name on tr

Giga toxic

Ofc

We should make echo was taken lol

DrJay Team looking better than last time

Ngl im only watching jpc pov rn since they wont show late anyways

[oblique garnet]

Think if they +1 its better since 29 will not be doable

[sweet summit]

u can do the 28 even if u 2chest the 27 tho

[oblique garnet]

Most likely yeah

Next weekend dw

[dawn canyon]

Ambition doing 30 streets

[alpine shard]

you think they'll give sixth place any screentime today?

[cinder storm]

hate how much that door takes to open

[oblique garnet]

Id like to compete in tgp atleast once

MDI was doomed since last time i tried it my team got banned for the xp pot exploit in bfa

[cinder storm]

this production not giving screen time to the last spots

[oblique garnet]

29 upper actually doable with warrior

Rally carries curator

[cinder storm]

Sense Pog

[oblique garnet]

Oh no a disaster

[cinder storm]

Sense only one there that can play pwar

[south zealot]

sense clutch

[oblique garnet]

Senses total screen time in 2 days under 10 minutes

[south zealot]

rally unbreakable will curator 29

wokege

[cinder storm]

[south zealot]

wait im jjst chilling 1 min behind

lmao

[oblique garnet]

Yeah and it saves more time because you can just summon

[mighty valley]

has anyone had dps warriors taunting the last boss in upper kara for more spell reflects? (not tgp obviously)

[cinder storm]

I think the best way for them to actually do the TGP in this viewing format is by creating a Squad mode

[cinder storm]

Someone posted pictures here before, it was good dmg

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[dawn canyon]

Would just have to alternate reflects

[mighty valley]

they would just have to taunt before the cast starts, right?

[dawn canyon]

Yes

[oblique garnet]

You know you can watch the players right

[cinder storm]

Yes

[dawn canyon]

During beam

[oblique garnet]

True

[south zealot]

[cinder storm]

yeah but think about those players you don't really know which is their twitch

[oblique garnet]

Think senses team is only one that has nobody streaming

[cinder storm]

Sadly

[oblique garnet]

They have the tech

But idk

Cant do that because???

[dawn canyon]

Awc is in the yt deal tho

[south zealot]

why did he soulshape

instead of the portal right next to him

wokege

[oblique garnet]

Probably didnt know which one to take

Dps brain

[south zealot]

sixth place so behind

[oblique garnet]

Think he was alone in the amz too

Rest used big defensives

For sure

[south zealot]

just go mage lock rogue

hunter too squishy for turbo high keys i feel

bro the first pack is so easy

u legit just afk

[alpine shard]

omg sixth place has screentime

[oblique garnet]

Need mortalstrike

[south zealot]

doesnt rogue have crippling poison

[alpine shard]

they need to get a tank main as caster next time

[south zealot]

or is it not good to use

[oblique garnet]

Idk

[south zealot]

never played rogue so idk what poison you lose

[oblique garnet]

Yeah same

[alpine shard]

i think hunter ms is a lot stronger than rogue ms

[south zealot]

doesnt dratnos makn tank

[cinder storm]

dratnos main dps

[south zealot]

oh i’ve only seen him play bdk

[cinder storm]

he's a rogue main and can play some other classes

can fill as tank since he rl iirc

[oblique garnet]

He tanked nyalotha in bfa

Iirc

[cinder storm]

ah, I stopped watching him after g'hun

[south zealot]

no prot warriors sadge

[oblique garnet]

Missiles as warrior is so bad if you lose focus even once and dont sr at the right time

[restive sage]

he tanked nathria too as DH

thought he was a tank main tbh

[dawn canyon]

it might be worth to spend some time there and make a castbar weakaura that shows the ticks

i think i know how to do it, would just need some time to actually make it

[autumn pendant]

Ok

We will wait

[oblique garnet]

I mean if you have castbar that shows the duration all you have to do is just reflect after 0.5s left on cast

But like i said

If you lose focus for a bit you get he debuff

Where as dk just heals

[south zealot]

they should have the casters participate

true but it would still be funny

[dawn canyon]

xyro would own

[south zealot]

dratnos is a hall of fame gamer

roght

righr

[dawn canyon]

yep

poptart corndog

[lusty grotto]

here i present to you guys, what i did last night on jailer

[dawn canyon]

nop

[lusty grotto]

(first time doing normal jailer)

[alpine shard]

i think meeix is also in like a top 20 guild or something?

[lusty grotto]

https://streamable.com/cz8yfh

[chrome falcon]

[south zealot]

i heard ppl say doa sux

[oblique garnet]

Doa is a casual

[south zealot]

LMAOO

doa has by far the best caster coice

voice

he has been casting for like a decade tho so it makes sense

[lusty grotto]

xD

[south zealot]

ez key

i could do it

watch CoS tyran was crazy

[chrome falcon]

True

[south zealot]

watching

[oblique garnet]

Ambition gonna perma deplete upper in a huge plot twist

[south zealot]

in s2 tgp

[chrome falcon]

I wonder if 26 key is grimrail or JY

Probably JY

[south zealot]

i prayge jy

but grim is fun too

[alpine shard]

definitely jy

[south zealot]

i hope jy is in eu and gobal as wel

i love jy im a jy enjoyer

[alpine shard]

ambition has secret upper tech

they're gonna 3chest the 25

[south zealot]

just kill the bosses faster

4head

[oblique garnet]

Id be ok with no JY

[south zealot]

id be fine if it’s guaranteed on global

[alpine shard]

i want to see jy just finally end the discussion of what level jy is possible

[south zealot]

if its not on na pk that’s fine

[chrome falcon]

Nothing happens in JY

All the bosses are turbo bedge

0 mechanics

Geoff literally 0 mechs apart from 1 shot

Phone corrects trogg to geoff

[south zealot]

wokege key

[chrome falcon]

So that’s canon

[south zealot]

jy is wokege

i wanna see ppl so disgustingly illegal jy pulls

jy in mdi

they would just pull the whole train onto boss

[chrome falcon]

I want to see teams full pull everything before first

And die to stars

Tbf that might actually be gaming

[south zealot]

full pull all teash to first

[chrome falcon]

No stars

[robust quiver]

How do you position kujo tu be able to consistently attack him while using the box during the aoe?

[south zealot]

and entire train to 2nd

[chrome falcon]

Near the short side

Like 2 yards off the short side

Kinda at an angle

[robust quiver]

oh so it's not a cube? never noticed

[chrome falcon]

Nope rectangle

[robust quiver]

ah i see

[sweet summit]

cheating using shapes

gotta use freehand

[south zealot]

why is screen not 50/50

[hazy edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv4PWAUocwc

video guide on Kujo placement

[robust quiver]

thanks everybody for the help!

[south zealot]

ive been able to auto kujo

never been able to attack otherwise

yeah

i just heroic throw ranged

bedge

[robust quiver]

[south zealot]

how did nerf die

[robust quiver]

i'm gonna say something controversial, but i've always thought that ambition was the only true competitive team from NA

[south zealot]

yeah

sadge

[robust quiver]

Europe seems to be overall ahead (mean team skill)

[south zealot]

im ready to see secret cn frost mage team

[robust quiver]

but even in eu there's a big gap between echo and everybody else

[south zealot]

isnt china usually good

did aster y even try

[robust quiver]

sadge

[south zealot]

i remember in bfa and early sl china was pretty op

do u know what happened

LMAO

respectable

[chrome falcon]

Shoulda specced AM

[south zealot]

LMFAOOOO

their fans didnt funne enough mythic boes sadga

[oblique garnet]

China always doing something sketchy in everything

[south zealot]

lot of chinese streams are like this

like what the fuck am i looking at

what could all that script possibly say that it needs to be tbere

[cinder storm]

I remember reading a comment about how Chinese would treat other Chinese bad if they are not deemed real Chinese

But that's another topic

[delicate kraken]

nah wdym theres a tiny part with no text thats more than enough space to see

[south zealot]

imagine ambition just doesnt to upper

and loses

how fucking funny and tragic would that be

[cinder storm]

[oblique garnet]

Or they deplete upper

[south zealot]

or yeah they deplete and they cant start another key

[oblique garnet]

And then echo does something similiar next weekend

[chrome falcon]

I’m at dinner gang give me the quick notes for TGP so far

Sense team 3x pwarr upper comp?

[cinder storm]

Sense no screen time

[oblique garnet]

Honestly cant even tell if sense is playing anymore

[chrome falcon]

[jagged pier]

10 mins over 2 days

[oblique garnet]

Oh nvm hes on screen now

[cinder storm]

11 now

[south zealot]

ngl i think workshop is the most fair dungeon

[chrome falcon]

Yeah workshop is great

[south zealot]

seems like the upper levels of keys you wont be able to complete because of the time

[chrome falcon]

Third boss is super fun

[south zealot]

and not bc its not possible to live

[oblique garnet]

FREEhold

[delicate kraken]

Oof idk, Those blades get annoying super quick

[chrome falcon]

I would simply avoid the cogs

[south zealot]

i made my first 100k gold level boosting in freehold

[chrome falcon]

People fuckin LOVED freehold but I never really got it

[oblique garnet]

I did alot of fh boosting for free

[chrome falcon]

We’ll probably see it back during DF

[delicate kraken]

Freehold was fun

[chrome falcon]

Weekly boss rotations are cring btw

Always

[oblique garnet]

You know why fh was fun

[chrome falcon]

I hate that shit

[oblique garnet]

There was hardly any casters

[delicate kraken]

this

[chrome falcon]

True real based

[alpine shard]

because you could pull big and do big damooge

[south zealot]

i sucked in bfa

[oblique garnet]

Same reason grimrail is fun

[south zealot]

like i was omega turbo ass

i tried tanking freehold

got oneshot on second boss

immediately alt f4ed

[oblique garnet]

5 mobs that need kicking in choochoo

[south zealot]

LMAO

me like zap bot

me like junkyard

no bedge

[oblique garnet]

Gonna macro /train on every ability whenever im doing grimrail

[chrome falcon]

Is it even 5? I swear it’s only… 2?

[oblique garnet]

3x technicians 2x seers

[chrome falcon]

Goblins and shamans and that’s it no

[south zealot]

technician and the seers

[chrome falcon]

Oh right

[south zealot]

yeah 5 in total

[chrome falcon]

Yeah yeah mb

[south zealot]

skip 1 technician

gg

[chrome falcon]

Meanwhile lower has 5 mobs you need to kick in one pack

🙂

[south zealot]

lower is so dumb

[chrome falcon]

It’s trash

[south zealot]

me and my homies hate lower

[oblique garnet]

Non elite caster that legit just kills you with immolate cast like ???

[chrome falcon]

I mean the layout is really interesting because it was released in TBC so it feels very different

[queen hemlock]

Df having the all taunt that kicks bring it in now bois

[chrome falcon]

But it’s full of the most horrific garbage

Of all time

[south zealot]

immolate and searing pain do legit 50k

spam casts on a normal mob

[chrome falcon]

Can’t reflect btw

[south zealot]

those shadow dudes have like 4 casts that you have to kick

[chrome falcon]

Shadow volley, shadow rejuv, shadow blast, shackles, oath

I think that’s all on 2 mobs

[dawn canyon]

soulrot enjoyers

[chrome falcon]

Meanwhile grimrail has dude that auto

[dawn canyon]

KEKW

[chrome falcon]

And one that places a ground zone

Based grimrail

[dawn canyon]

tbf demo isnt too bad for this boss

since u get more instas than other classes

[south zealot]

flametongue is so tozic

u just lose

if u dont move out

[mighty valley]

grimrail felt awful for 1.5 runs until i figured out camera angles

[oblique garnet]

Stun flametongue = ez

[mighty valley]

other tanks i've run with are SO bad at pulling in grimrail

[oblique garnet]

Also sidestep gunner frontals

And you dont have to worry about anything

[chrome falcon]

Flame tongue is super easy to deal with

Just stun/fear

[oblique garnet]

Can try some fun pulls next week in grimrail

I.e all 3 packs in train

[south zealot]

i just use my stun whenever i get lazy and dont wanna move

lmao

im such a good tank

[oblique garnet]

Nerf dies???

To what

Its tyra

Dk

[south zealot]

how

[oblique garnet]

Im confused

[south zealot]

wtf

maybe he like

didnt have rp

[oblique garnet]

Squirrel?

[south zealot]

somehow

[static zenith]

What's the best slot for unity as prot?