protection

[queen hemlock]

After that my spell reflect just stays there when i walk in

[south zealot]

get hit by the swirl

[shut summit]

you cant reflect if you walk in with debuff already

[south zealot]

with reflect

[queen hemlock]

Same with JY large slimes

[south zealot]

atleast thats what i did

[shut summit]

no debuff / reflect / walk in

[queen hemlock]

Oh maybe thats why

[south zealot]

large slimes u just reflect whileinside him

before the dot goes on u

[queen hemlock]

If dot on you tou cannot refect anymore i assume

Alright thanks maybe thats why

Been playing on 250 pings with us peeps cant react to things properly

Thanks for the help

[lusty grotto]

anyone got that closest target WA for intervene that i keep seeing?

[trim bay]

I second that

[lament zealot]

Are prot warriors after the mechagon rings?

[chrome falcon]

yep

[lament zealot]

what is our most sought after trigger/proc?

I assume haste proc

[cinder storm]

Yes

[lament zealot]

Trigger is 3 spells on a target?

[mighty valley]

that one's free

[chrome falcon]

i proc'd my ring earlier by using battle shout before a pull in raid

because i rally and intervene'd them 5 minutes ago

on the previous boss

that ring has a LONG memory

[grizzled forge]

which tank gets most out of windfury? jc

[fiery veldt]

any thoughts on the weapon and shield from jy? just got them both while farming ring and i'm worried about the stat loss

[toxic pewter]

if they are ilvl increases i would use them personally

[fiery veldt]

They are going from 262 weapon and shield to 288 but they have weird effects on them and no stats really so I guess do I bother upgrading or just wait for better stuff? Not doing mythic raid on this guy so shield off mal is out of the question

I'm assuming since I don't see a pin about them they're just a stepping stone to better stuff

[royal lodge]

Correct.

[fiery veldt]

Cool thanks for taking the time to read and answer! Back to mechagon hell for ring farm!

[royal lodge]

Yup, I have been farming that dungeon also. I have had the weapon and the healer ring drop, so far.

[fiery veldt]

well good luck on rings we'll get them eventually!

[balmy canyon]

What do you guys think, mechagon rings or keep my unity there and use a different one

[drifting fable]

mechagon rings

unity can go on neck or cape or some shit

[lament zealot]

What 1hander is BIS atm?

Is the proc from fusion hacker worth it?

[hazy edge]

fusion hacker barely beats an equal ilvl normal weapon on ST and generally loses to one in AoE

If it's an ilvl upgrade go for it, other wise

[lament zealot]

Was mostly wondering if it was worth upgrading or should I dinar/target something else

[sonic crag]

Should use dinar on trinkets

Unless you're fortunate enough to have gotten them as raid drops

[lament zealot]

Old Warrior Souls is top prio likely right?

[sonic crag]

Yes.

Just great value in all situations

[hazy edge]

ows, rdm, then you're choice of aegis, a shield, a weapon, Fusion Amp, or any other trinket your heart desires.

[lament zealot]

I was lucky to get a 278 aegis

[sonic crag]

Then go OWS and then feel content you don't have to change trinkets til some time in Dragonflight

[lament zealot]

Thanks for the advice

[sonic crag]

I'm personally going to probably target something completely irrelevant with my 3rd dinar. Maybe even tage the shield from Lords of Dread for tmog

[lament zealot]

Same haha

Looks so good

[urban bane]

I'm such a moron I for some reason thought that Riftmaw was physical on mythic

So I cast literally zero spell reflects

[real fossil]

first dungeon i get 100% uptime on banner was a jy and wowzers do you do dam

[limpid pawn]

this one, the defensive mode, the block makes it basically act like a higher ilevel shield?

[ionic fern]

Yes.
But the value you get from it is worse than what other shields provide via stats.

[urban portal]

Yeah this is basically a 298 shield without secondaries

[south zealot]

junkyard 24 right after third boss

was on pace for 20k overall

rerolled my upper 23 into a lower 23

[raw void]

is the workshop ring combo bis or would another haste heavy ring be better than the JY one?

[ionic fern]

Every time someone posts a picture of their overall i'm jealous of the DPS players they have.

[chilly brook]

I'll be your big boi DPS for you

[ionic fern]

👀

Plz carry

[chilly brook]

Jaithys and Gavel go brrr

[south zealot]

dont think monk used a single defensive

the healer was gaming and picking up slack lmao

[ionic fern]

That's the way to go.

[south zealot]

ring combo is better

[ionic fern]

LETS PUG

[south zealot]

wikket HAS to be nerfed

[ionic fern]

That was last week. 😉

[south zealot]

its not even remotely tuned

[ionic fern]

Haven't tried it since.

Too many tilts.

[south zealot]

its like +10 key levels it should be

[ionic fern]

I'm just waiting until people learn the dungeons.

Currently half of who are in my pug groups don't even know basic mechanics. 😦

So i'm just chilling with Tazavesh'es due to people knowing them.

[pallid quiver]

i'll have you know i don't know shit about tazavesh except maybe a slight bit about gambit

but kara? i got that

[south zealot]

its genuinely shocking they hotfixed rhe affix

and not lower

[hazy edge]

Not to go into too much detail, but the hotfix to the affix was drastically underplayed and the issue actually causing it was a bit concerning and had a lot of potential ramifications.

But yeah they def need to nerf lower

hell and upper for that matter

neither are any amount of enjoyable currently

[shrewd cedar]

Is the junkyard shield good? Like does it proc often or is it just a gimmick ?

[hazy edge]

It's a 1+haste proc per minute

pretty bleh

but if it's an ilvl upgrade it's still worth it

[shrewd cedar]

I thought it was an absorb shield and nature dmg during shield ?

[hazy edge]

Yup, but those effects only happen about once per minute.

[shrewd cedar]

Oh boo

[vague surge]

What should I reflect on Medihv?

[sweet summit]

last tick of missiles

[vestal moat]

how many seconds left on the cast is optimal to press it?

[sweet summit]

idk i do .3 ish and that works

[short mesa]

Why last tick?

[sweet summit]

don't get debuff if u do that

[short mesa]

Oh, do i remember correctly that in legion you could sr whole cast?

[jagged pier]

yes because SR reflects everything for 6 seconds instead of 1 spell

[oblique garnet]

Imagine a world where SR was as broken as AMS

[jagged pier]

well one has a 20 second cd and 1 doesnt so having them the same power is a little broken

[oblique garnet]

AMS is 45 and its practically immunity…

[jagged pier]

go complain to bliz

🤷

[oblique garnet]

What i meant with that is when something can be immuned with ams in raid or m+ it doesnt get touched but when something works with reflect its hotfixed within a week

[ionic fern]

Hero class, Hero treatment.

[brittle owl]

hero of what

cringe?

[raw void]

dont you die to it before the last tick?

[strong forum]

If that's the case why does it matter when you reflect

If you die regardless

[oblique garnet]

why would you die just ignore the pain 8)

[sweet summit]

would be kinda rough if you die to any cast going off

[brittle owl]

hit him harder

make him think twice before casting

[sweet summit]

silly you
if NCPs could think they would cower in fear at the sight of me

[queen stag]

When your gear is trash af and you almost outperform the healer on the healing meters in m+

[sweet summit]

show overall dps

[queen stag]

It is only a +10 for context, but my warrior alt is basically less than 260 ilvl and tanking in underwear

[torn gust]

oof

[warm condor]

those are s1 damage numbers, king

[fallow narwhal]

in a 10 you should prob be close to the healer anyways

[queen stag]

[warm condor]

:-(((

what's the damage breakdown like?

[queen stag]

My dmg?

[warm condor]

yeah

click on your bar on details

and let us see the breakdown

[queen stag]

Necro btw. I did not press Ravager even nearly enough, but I'm still learning it. I come from playing a BDK where I am simply unable to die

[warm condor]

welcome to the other side of the spectrum imo

[lime urchin]

welcome to even stronger tonk that is even more not able to die

[warm condor]

ravager doesnt do that much damage anyways, but you can defenitely afford to be throwing much more revenges

i'll assume you're using reprisal

[sweet summit]

uhm

thunder clap should be

a lot lower

relatively to SS and revenge

[queen stag]

I am indeed

[lime urchin]

we strongly recommend logging your runs, that's the best way to get a better understanding of woijoij gameplay

[fallen belfry]

He says he's low ilvl though wouldn't that mean more ip rather than revenge cats in order to live

[sweet summit]

no

it's a 10

[fallen belfry]

True

[queen stag]

It was a +10 GD with all the nathrezim collected

[warm condor]

keep charging and intervening in and out of packs for stronk revenges

[torn gust]

^

[queen stag]

So not worth using the proc on Thunderclap?

[warm condor]

show of force proc from the conduit?

oh you mean set proc

ofc it is

but its mostly about the ignore pain rather than the damage

[jagged pier]

playing SoF instead of ashen

:kekw:

[sweet summit]

it is better for damage at 6+ targets

ideally SS > TC with Outburst tho

[jagged pier]

but way less rage

[sweet summit]

for rage to maintain banner and more revenge casts

[torn gust]

i like using scars as prot :v

[queen stag]

Ahhhhhh makes sense, more efficient TC = more rage... I've been dumping into stronk revenges

[sweet summit]

scars fuck GOOD

[jagged pier]

good in raid

[warm condor]

what are yall spending your dinars on

[sweet summit]

i bought gavel

[torn gust]

old man's soul

[jagged pier]

nothing yet

[warm condor]

i gavel'd too :-)

[strong forum]

I'll buy fsa or old man soul

[lime urchin]

what is this scars you speak of

[jagged pier]

fsa?

[queen stag]

Going for old man soul

[sweet summit]

scars of fraternal strife

[torn gust]

sadly i missed a couple of bosses on week one

[jagged pier]

oh

[sweet summit]

jailer trinket

[jagged pier]

i have 285

🤷

[sweet summit]

gives A LOT of stats

[strong forum]

Fusion amp

[sweet summit]

and goes boom pow at the end

[strong forum]

Or was it called sfa

[jagged pier]

that wasnt good for us back in day tho

[sweet summit]

salvaged fusion amplifier

[jagged pier]

i guess in 5 tank comps

[strong forum]

Fusion amp is the single biggest dmg upgrade I can get for ST

Ya

For 5t

[queen stag]

Kek I'm currently running Intrusive Thoughtcage because it replaced my 226 trink

[sweet summit]

is that the LoD trinket

what does it even do lol

[sweet summit]

ah right

[jagged pier]

ew

[queen stag]

[strong forum]

This is prolly still a dmg upgrade over my 272 opc at this point

Fucking stun grenade Sims better currently than opc

[jagged pier]

[sweet summit]

yea...

[queen stag]

[strong forum]

Stun grenade is an 800 dps gain on 5 targets for me

Over opc

[sweet summit]

what's that in %?

[strong forum]

Dunno I don't check %

Is like 5%?

Nah

Less

I do 36k dps on 5t 1.5min

So uh

[sweet summit]

idk raw damage in aoe sims tell me nothing nowadays lol

i am too dumb

[queen stag]

How fucked am I to be tanking this at 262?

Chances of success?

[strong forum]

Should be fine?

[queen stag]

I'm more meaning, will I get 1 shot?

4p + reprisal + unity

[strong forum]

Nah you're not gonna get 1shot lol

[sweet summit]

you'll probably die if you jump off some platforms

[queen stag]

kek

[sweet summit]

you'll be fine, king

go own it

[strong forum]

Generally a rule of thumb is for keys, whatever the key drops -10 ilvl is perfectly appropriate ilvl

So you're a tiny bit below recommended pug ilvl

But should be fine regardless

[jagged pier]

mythic RDM is .4% high upgrade and mythic scars for me in ST

[queen stag]

Tyra bosses will fucking truck though for sure. Screw it, here I go lads

[sweet summit]

can reflect cast on last boss

and reflect last tick of missiles on the mage

[strong forum]

Grenade is 80 dps upgrade for me in St, heroic sfa is 600 dps upgrade

[sweet summit]

medivh

that guy

[queen stag]

I thought I had to kind of predict his missiles and reflect before he casts lol

[strong forum]

Medivh is the only scary thing for you in there Carter

[jagged pier]

304 grenade is a 75 dps increase for me

[torn gust]

missiles stack :v

[sweet summit]

nah one tick consumes SR

so you want to reflect the last one

to avoid the dot

[queen stag]

Little bit

[queen stag]

epic tip, thanks

[oblique garnet]

Need to reflect when cast is 0.5s or lower otherwise you get the dot

[sweet summit]

yea

[sick sentinel]

Not looking into dc for about 18 hours
You guys are insane

[jagged pier]

always have been 🧑‍🚀 🔫 🧑‍🚀

[lunar slate]

Morning/Afternoon all. Quick question do we have a section where macro ideas are listed? I’ve read on wowhead it could be a good idea to macro Avatar with other abilities due to Avatar not being in the GCD-table

[strong forum]

Eh

There's really only 1 good macro and that's the intervene/charge macro

Rest is just maybe some generic focus kick stuff

[lament shell]

sup

back stab ring procs from bleeds?

[pallid quiver]

it can be nice to have a macro for popping your cds on pull, so Banner - Last Stand - Avatar just so you don't need to worry about mashing all those real fast, but other than intervene/charge stuff, there's not super much useful for PvE

[lament shell]

agree 100%

so does this proc of off bleeds?

[jagged pier]

if your not in the 90 degrees arc infront of the mob yes

[lament shell]

what?

[sweet summit]

if damage occurs while you are not in front

it procs

[lament shell]

KEKW

[lament shell]

beautiful art

ok now i get it t y

[rapid lance]

Seems a dick

[topaz field]

how is the COS ring on us btw?

[jagged pier]

its okay for ST but mechgon combo is far far better

[topaz field]

okay boss

not unhappy to hear that

has anyone played lower first boss btw this week?

[queen stag]

An update on earlier. Got through the Kara, Medivh slapped me around like a cheap prostitute, but here I am. 263 ilvl and a 14 as a prot warrior

[tardy sequoia]

If I turn a 288 piece of gear from a mythic +15 into a tier set item, it gets the normal appearance doesn’t it? Even if normal is 278 and heroic is 291

[queen stag]

I think so. To my understanding you need to hit the threshold for what hc would drop if you want it to be an hc-level mog, but I've not confirmed it myself

[tardy sequoia]

So basically you can get HC and Mythic ilvl gear only from great vault 🥲

[queen stag]

Or raiding

[tardy sequoia]

Yes I mean excluding raiding of course

[strong forum]

Should

With getting 2k score you can upgrade gear to 298, meaning higher than regular hc gear and equal to end boss hc ilvl

[woven girder]

are we interested in getting the mechagon shield at all?

[strong forum]

Nah

[woven girder]

alright easy, i didnt think we would

but just wanted to check

if its ilvl would we take it?

[drifting fable]

yes

[cinder dirge]

yo guys, quick question (sry for bad english again idk if i can say it right)
how many ticks does the arcane thing on shadow medivh in kara upper?
In the same topic, what's the most optimal way to reflect the arcane blast/bolt (idk the name sry) for shadow medivh ?
If you reflect the last tick does it deal more dmg to boss cause you have more stacks ? Do you need to reflect the bolt in the middle of the canalisation to reset the debuff ? How does it work ?

struggling to explain sry but if you got the answer would be super cool

[sweet summit]

idk how many ticks
reflect the last tick to avoid the debuff (~0.5 sec left of the cast)

[strong forum]

10 ticks

[rain zodiac]

Can anyone recommend me any good WA for Protection warrior? I just started to level and would like to perform better 🙂

[onyx vessel]

[lament shell]

The outbrust one is good

[blazing condor]

you only really need something that tracks outburst/seeing red and Shield Block imo

[sweet summit]

i like to recommend afenar

personally i use adriox

[onyx vessel]

I use nomeraturs

[sweet summit]

ya nomeratus is good

[oblique garnet]

[sweet summit]

and i guess you can like sub to some streamers for their WAs

[blazing condor]

u are good!

[sweet summit]

mostly prefrence tho

if it works for you it works for you kinda thing

[onyx vessel]

Naowhs is good

[oblique garnet]

Hand hurts

[onyx vessel]

Dont know if i would pay for it

[onyx vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-sus-the-rock-meme-the-rock-sus-meme-gif-23972805

[sweet summit]

late boomer hands

[onyx vessel]

The prot warrior life

Rip wrist

Time to reroll to bear

[oblique garnet]

Bro my right hand is just fucked from league boutta lose left hand too

[onyx vessel]

[sweet summit]

bro what

how do you fuck ur hand from league

[onyx vessel]

League player

[sweet summit]

pre rework eve ? xd

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/tense-gif-19013622

[sweet summit]

ah

mb

[onyx vessel]

Too much rubbing it to league fan art

[blazing condor]

[sweet summit]

[onyx vessel]

[oblique garnet]

300 apm league of legends gameplay

[blazing condor]

man plays 500 apm Gragas

just stunlock

[onyx vessel]

Use a foot pedal to play league then

[lusty tiger]

Late is a katarina player with that kind of wrist sweat

[wild rampart]

how's Fusion Hacker, the Fire proc axe from junkyard any good?

[ionic fern]

No he's not.

[oblique garnet]

Woah just because im playing with UF

[ionic fern]

I was looking at log data yesterday and saw @sweet summit 's shame.

I know about your Guardian log Erga.

[ionic fern]

Are you using everything on TC?

[oblique garnet]

No

[ionic fern]

Not even min-maxing..what is this

[oblique garnet]

Its not minmaxing because you wont keep up banner if you use everything on tc

[sick sentinel]

"protection warrior changes: you guys seem to be doing okay rn, no real news yet"

[ionic fern]

Stop playing the boring NL

And play Kyrian

Or NF.

be different.

[onyx vessel]

[oblique garnet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/T8QDwYyzFA32v4Wx/#fight=last&playermetric=dps&type=auras if i played kyrian or nf i think i would have probably died

[wild rampart]

wat

[onyx vessel]

banner uptime

[sweet summit]

huh?

[ionic fern]

Imagine having 96% banner up-time.
I can do my dungeons with 20%.

[onyx vessel]

[sweet summit]

uh

lag

[ionic fern]

😂

[oblique garnet]

I mean atleast now theres just data that its possible to do cringekeys while stile maintaining banner :))

[sick sentinel]

its a green parse at least

could be red

[uncut dome]

Jailer trinket worth anything for prot?

[onyx vessel]

[dawn canyon]

shit fight anyways

[ionic fern]

😂

[lament shell]

Bro warrior needs a buff

Wth

[minor helm]

Same

[lime urchin]

sweet baby jesus these are some fabulous logs!

[lament shell]

Guys, what do you think about a holy priest not trading bis mechagon ring just to pair it with anduin ring

[oblique garnet]

Thats a chad move

[lament shell]

Ye pretty unfort ;_;

Also had a havoc rolling for a 3 different spell ring

But they press only 2 buttons

[lime urchin]

^

loot is stoopid anyway, just press more revenj

[lament shell]

Ye maybe next time

[oblique garnet]

[lament shell]

Its 50% drop rate anyway you get it or you dont

[oblique garnet]

Could probably do more but it was just hold W routes

So no actual planning as its mostly just pugs

[chrome falcon]

Is UF actually good now man

[oblique garnet]

🙂

[lusty tiger]

Are you tracking your avatar buff after you use it in combat?

[oblique garnet]

?

[lusty tiger]

I don’t use that thing

Wa

[oblique garnet]

Based on extensive feelycraft UF owns

[chrome falcon]

Back to the TC grindset

[oblique garnet]

I mean i have action bars too that also show the cd is that what you meant?

[lusty tiger]

Not cd

Like if it’s up right now or not

[minor helm]

That’s what the little avatar icon with 18 is

[oblique garnet]

Yeah i track it with weakauras

[chrome falcon]

I’ll try some UF tonight then

[lofty widget]

counterargument

[oblique garnet]

Need show of force too

[chrome falcon]

[lofty widget]

well i was 283 ilvl

[oblique garnet]

Was it fortified week ?

[lofty widget]

tyranical

week 1

[oblique garnet]

In docks or ?

[lofty widget]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vG4rPMjYdCK61FLw#fight=2&type=damage-done

[chrome falcon]

Yes chimmi do it please prove UF is still bad

Save us all

[tropic gorge]

Happy Friday friends!

[oblique garnet]

Youre playing opc

In gamba ?

[lofty widget]

havent dropped any other trinkets except stun grenade

rocking rdm+opc atm

[oblique garnet]

Man i hate that you cant actually see what route youre taking in logs clearly

[tropic gorge]

I'm coming back after a break (oops its the end of the xpack. I have horrible timing), I'm looking through the guide posts, and don't see any posts for 2nd legendary items to use. I currently have reprisal on legs, would the wall on a cloak be a good 2nd?

[south zealot]

last hit of arcane missile or pre-spell reflect if you have a ton of kicks

[south zealot]

u can spell reflect the first bolt and it cancels the cast

[south zealot]

bad habit to make. you want to save banner imo for if you drop it due to forced downtime or you just fuck up.

[south zealot]

if you mean wikket its turbo overtuned

[sick sentinel]

its flashybolt more than anything

main mechanic is easy enough just loads of hp

[crimson mountain]

Your 2nd Lego has to be unity

[oblique garnet]

Comparing logs from same keys to every other my uf ones have been 2k dps ahead

[strong forum]

You can with keystone heroes

[tropic gorge]

Ty

[oblique garnet]

What is that

[strong forum]

https://keystone-heroes.com/

Courtesy of @broken crater

Amazing tool to see CD usage and call out bad plays

[south zealot]

its everything

too mant casts

many

wayyyy too much hp on the adds and the boss

[south zealot]

unstoppable force gaming?!?!

[sick sentinel]

its just like a command and conquer unit balance i showed here once

[tropic gorge]

After reading some more I now realize I asked a wrong question about legendary items. Lots to learn

[sick sentinel]

numbers arent done right you have a light tank soloing a medium tank, when unaltered by increasing the values by some %% on hard mode

and wikket is a perfect example

[south zealot]

wdym

[tropic gorge]

I didn't realize the 2nd effect had to be the cov power. I was hoping to use the wall as my 2nd. Derp

[south zealot]

oh rip

[tropic gorge]

Indeed lol

[south zealot]

yeah one legendary has to be unity and the other one can be anything

[lament shell]

Leech is bis holy

[cobalt seal]

would wall even be a good 2nd lego?

You wouldn't pass on infinite banner

for wall...

[tropic gorge]

Is that for necro?

[broken crater]

simp

[cobalt seal]

not playing necro is kinda a ?

[strong forum]

Credit where credit is due

[tropic gorge]

I'm kyrian.

[dawn canyon]

Change that

[tropic gorge]

Probably way too late to change, plus I like the spear bahaha

[dawn canyon]

Not too late

You can change whenever, get the 60 thing and be a great NL pwar

[fallen belfry]

Best part of the log is the 96.5% mitigation requiring less heals than the shmmy lol

[cobalt seal]

spear is great on sanguine weeks

let me hold spear because I can't use stuff it is almost dead

[tropic gorge]

I like it to push extra dps, and snaring runners is preem

[broken crater]

neltharions lair pwar?

[cobalt seal]

extra dps?

[dawn canyon]

Necrolord

[cobalt seal]

you losing dps

[dawn canyon]

[cobalt seal]

by being kyrian (unless packs die in 20s)

[tropic gorge]

Probably. But man the end is near. I'm not super worried about it. I do like to min max. It's probably too late to level a new cov for me

[broken crater]

i mean you get to renown 60 insta

[tropic gorge]

No shit? I didn't know that

It all carries over?

[broken crater]

via item near flight master in oribos

[cobalt seal]

it doesn't

[broken crater]

1k investment

tbf the conduit item is only relevant for covenant specific conduits

since the non cov bound conduits carry over

but you do insta have all soulbinds etc

[tropic gorge]

Well that's a lot less work then I thought it would be

I haven't played in 2 seasons

[broken crater]

is like this since... 9.2 I believe

[cobalt seal]

getting NL ready

is like 2h?

max

renown will come passively by doing dungeons

and 60 is more than enough

[fallen belfry]

Are you still saving outburst for SS with UF?

[tropic gorge]

Thanks for the tips guys. I appreciate it

[south zealot]

unstoppable force tech pig

pog

[dawn canyon]

UF and pad on raid motes

[minor helm]

🐖

[oblique garnet]

Nah i dont hold anything if it hits tc decent if it doesnt nothing bad happens

Always be casting

[lament shell]

I get irl cringe when i mis click outburst thunderclap

[cobalt seal]

if you have nothing else to press

[lament shell]

Tbh i just stand there 2 sec until i get ss proc

Thru aa or charge back

[oblique garnet]

Tc outburst does good damage on aoe

[south zealot]

u use tclap conduit over execute one?

[sweet summit]

no u run this

[lament shell]

Bro

Where is shield wall -45sec

[south zealot]

[sweet summit]

run that over CAS

[lament shell]

Wth is this misleading

[sweet summit]

i am not doing keys where i need SW

so i forgor

[south zealot]

this is gamer stuff

[cobalt seal]

(neither is 99% of this discord)

[lament shell]

Ok excuse me

[sweet summit]

have 2k score don't need more

[south zealot]

neither is 99% of wow players

[sweet summit]

weekly prison now...

[south zealot]

this season is like my one chance to get 0.1% title lmao

[lament shell]

On prot? Kekw

[sweet summit]

what

[cobalt seal]

just bad?

or actually bad?

[south zealot]

yeah shouldnt be too hard

[lament shell]

Agree

Rember if youll find troubles swap to bdk

Its free title

[south zealot]

eh

[strong forum]

If this season follows suit to last one

[cobalt seal]

actually bad it is

[south zealot]

i dont even have a level 60 dk

so no point

i like prot anyway

[strong forum]

You should be safe around 3.2k

But

[south zealot]

damn thats high as fuck

[strong forum]

I think till be more like 3k

[lament shell]

No this season probably all 27s again wow players are bad

[strong forum]

Well 2.5k this season is KSH

[cobalt seal]

da fuck are you talking about

[strong forum]

We're in week 3,people don't have huge gear yet and we haven't had a push week

All 25s is 3k

[crimson mountain]

Right now there are only 5 na prot warriors in the top .01

[south zealot]

next week is fort push right

[strong forum]

So 27s sounds about right

[lament shell]

Always all 27s

[south zealot]

im only in top 10 prots

[south zealot]

how do you see this btw

[lament shell]

Top 10 prot is 2.6k?

[south zealot]

yeah

in us

[lament shell]

I think us had -100 score s3

For title 3.6

[south zealot]

the main issue i get is finding keys without a fucking tank in them

[strong forum]

Stop pugging

[south zealot]

yeah ive gotten some solid players on my friends list recently

[lament shell]

Just rember to tell friends that tilt a lot to fuck of

Cuz they keep you down

[strong forum]

Hey that's me

[south zealot]

eventually

my warlock friend tilts a lot

like legit he will ass pull shit even when i tel him numerous times to move in more

[lament shell]

I have a monk friend that cries over mot getting procs with 150k dps on aoe pull

[south zealot]

and hes like wtf i didnt see those

[crimson mountain]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus/cutoffs/season-sl-4/us

[south zealot]

monk procs have to be coded on pure rng and not ppm

[crimson mountain]

Compare that to the leaderboard

[strong forum]

Cutoff is nothing like it will be

[south zealot]

thank you

[lament shell]

Ye

[south zealot]

yeah itll change of course

[strong forum]

Hardly anybody has pushed yet

[south zealot]

but good to keep the link handy

[strong forum]

Especially on fort weeks

[lament shell]

+25 is a loe key

[strong forum]

People were very busy gearing the past 2/3 weeks

[crimson mountain]

Yeah for sure

[south zealot]

i hate tanking higher fort keys

[strong forum]

So 2.7k is equivalent of 3.2k last season

[south zealot]

[strong forum]

Maybe like 3.3k

[south zealot]

3.3 sounds right

bro i got on some mages blacklist in an iron docks

[uneven mason]

You mean you don't enjoy watching the DPS die and having to Solo bosses?

[south zealot]

bc i called him shit for pulling mobs intentionally which we didnt need for count

he pulled up my io and saw my last season saying 23s and 24s were my limit

i love fort as a dps but hate tanking the trash

[lament shell]

I think you got more banner uptime on fortified

Inv people good io last season its legit strat

So you avoid rush io 3k last season

🔥

[south zealot]

yeah i was doing a 24 upper

warlock used curse of tongues on the bird phase

[oblique garnet]

Im currently higher score than last season

[south zealot]

but not on medihv himself

i even said in chat to curse of tongues medihv lmao

[cobalt seal]

hum

actually know

that only works for taza

I wont trust shit on previous scores when you have 6 new dungeons

[oblique garnet]

Technically junkyards and routes havent changed at all since bfa

Same with workshop kinda

[cobalt seal]

Do I trust SL players?

s3 score doesnt mean they played BFA

[oblique garnet]

True

Im the tank i know da way

[south zealot]

i havent done any of these dungeons at cc besides junkyard and workshop at like an 8

[oblique garnet]

Except this week because hk-8 is on top of gunker

And since in bfa you just didnt play keys if it was bad week

[vague otter]

Any prot warrior streams going at all?

[strong forum]

Tattman streams alot

[vague otter]

Tattman? Thanks

[oblique garnet]

[strong forum]

Hey, the question was streams, not god tier gameplay streams

[sick sentinel]

workshop is xo much the standard for hold w rpute that it starts with w

[south zealot]

tattman did a 26 upper

he swapped to unbreakable will

after curator

i thoight that was pretty gamer

[strong forum]

Not a bad idea

But if people can do it on 31 tyr on TGP without it

It's quite a bandaid fix for a 26

[sick sentinel]

ive still done zero upperkeys so far

and work

[south zealot]

wait wtf

genuinely how

i don’t understand how thats possible to live

full vers gaming?

oh shit its today??

gaming

[oblique garnet]

I think they just do the mechanic no ?

[dawn canyon]

They dont play with pwar

[oblique garnet]

Probably not

Because why would you when bdk can cheese

[south zealot]

but like everything oneshots you

[oblique garnet]

Everything

[dawn canyon]

Didnt Jay also get 31 ws?

Ah

Yeye

Cant wait for 36 jy

[south zealot]

40 jy copium

is junkyard fort or tyran

[dawn canyon]

The PVC rogue from hydration is probably the POV i go for

[south zealot]

junkyard has to be in

[dawn canyon]

I wanna see lower kara

Let em suffer

[south zealot]

s2 had like

nw dos halls plaguefall?

and court of stars and

[dawn canyon]

Yea

[south zealot]

i forget the last one

[dawn canyon]

EoA

[south zealot]

ah yes

[dawn canyon]

Psure that's changed now

[south zealot]

eye of fucking azshara

junkyard is the nw of this season

even easier i feel

even easier i know*

[strong forum]

Yes

JY is "don't die and you time"

[dawn canyon]

I liked nw Boss 2 and 4

[strong forum]

What

NW was the worst dungeon

[dawn canyon]

Meh

2 fucks you up and 4 is cool if you have to think about shields n stuff

Both generally interesting if not insta oneshot

To me

[south zealot]

the amount of wipes ive had on boss 4 of nw wake

where we had like 12 minutes

and depleted the key

is insane

[dawn canyon]

The soul reclaim pulse hurts a lot

[south zealot]

junkyard is the best dungeon ever

[dawn canyon]

L

[oblique garnet]

Junkyard is so boring

[south zealot]

whatttt

i think its so fun

[oblique garnet]

Its a free key

But my god it is boring

[strong forum]

I like JY cuz there's no bullshit

[south zealot]

i think its too easy but its fun

[strong forum]

No random groupwide 1shots

To survive

[south zealot]

my dps always get oneshot by the stupid fuckinf slimewaves

[strong forum]

He does hit hard

[dawn canyon]

Quaking Junker and trogg are the most retarded things

[strong forum]

But it's not like xav

[south zealot]

trogg is the hardest boss

not even mechanically tho

[oblique garnet]

The small slimes hurt in gunker area

[south zealot]

its just can u live

[strong forum]

Yea gotta focus the original one

And burn it down

Prio

[south zealot]

those gnome eating slimes

LMAO

onetime i pulled 3 at once before i realized what was making adds

bc apparently i couldnt dead

[royal lodge]

Finally got my RDM, time to wear it out.

[south zealot]

read

that was a fun pull

healer issue dont care

[sweet summit]

i love world of warcraft shadowlands season 4 mythic plus dungeon options

[south zealot]

fuck lower karazhan

and a slight fuck you to upper as well

its a fair key if dps play right

its ok i judt need a good hunter to add

then i pretty much have a solid team

[sick sentinel]

they targeted and ate my mechagnome

so, they are good at that

Weapon from Yard the Fusion Hacker is this good?

[sweet summit]

[sick sentinel]

[sweet summit]

[sick sentinel]

[dire tulip]

How long do we have to keep banner up for it to outrank kyrian covenant?

[oblique garnet]

Well you can have perma banner

Where are kyrian has downtime

[sick sentinel]

how we can have perma banner?

[dire tulip]

I just managed to get like minute long banners

[sweet summit]

by pressing buttons and not having big downtime between packs

[sick sentinel]

well i fucking playid it wrong xD

[strong forum]

You can defo have 90%+ uptime in any key rn

And your goal is to have banner up for all combat time

Which is only achievable if you play around reprisals and prioritise rage generation whilst not overcapping rage and dumping with IP

[oblique garnet]

Workshop after kujo etc are other parts where you might drop banner

[crimson mountain]

The drops should line up where you should have the button available when you reach the next pack tho

[strong forum]

Yes

[oblique garnet]

P much

[strong forum]

Don't re-use banner on kujo and medivh unless it's early into the fight

[oblique garnet]

Ye thats how i did it

[strong forum]

Curator and Mana devourer aswell

[oblique garnet]

But its so cursed this week

[strong forum]

It's like 10-15sec

[oblique garnet]

Nah you can keep it up during it

[lofty widget]

nah you can keep it there

[strong forum]

You can defo extend it there on robots long enough

[oblique garnet]

Assuming you have some left

^

[lofty widget]

frehs out of double execute spam

[strong forum]

If yoy have like 20sec left when you click to ride you're 100% safe

[lofty widget]

unless you get the scenic route

[oblique garnet]

but i also like to rebanner once up there anyways for the team

so the bots die faster

[strong forum]

Scenic route is like 3sec slower yea

[oblique garnet]

rNG

[patent osprey]

gross plz no

[dawn canyon]

If anything they shoulda taken off true sight from the mobs

Only being able to skip it with a lock or venthyr is OMEGA cringe

[oblique garnet]

its not mandatory

you get count

without it

exact count

[lofty widget]

play literally everything else

[oblique garnet]

you have to play bridge first pack and both bots

[dawn canyon]

They reduce dreadlord count

[oblique garnet]

yeah its still 100%

without the pack

at the top

[lofty widget]

i mean i just did it and its 100 %

[dawn canyon]

https://twitter.com/nnoggie/status/1559817336420458497?t=1fYNg-qgxEjf7znPKab8Ww&s=19

Nnoggie (@nnoggie)

Small count changes in Mechagon - Workshop

Twitter · Aug 17, 2022, 8:20 AM

[sweet summit]

u need to pull the guy in the maze

orly

same

[sick sentinel]

soo i played banner always wrong fuck

[sweet summit]

did u check out the vid in the pins?

[sick sentinel]

now im doing it xD thanks i feel dump now xD

[sick sentinel]

tip for the smoke maze in workshop

all that section is on the same global timer

[toxic pewter]

wat u mean

[south zealot]

tgp in an hour?

20 min timer

on twitch or youtube or both

[dawn canyon]

The play is

Youtube main monitor

[toxic pewter]

would be badass if prot warrior made an appearance

[dawn canyon]

If run is spicy watch POV

With TGP main Broadcast audio

[dawn canyon]

Wont.

[toxic pewter]

it should on upper kara

[south zealot]

only dungeon i could see is super high upper with the shield wall

[toxic pewter]

just blast spell reflect

[dawn canyon]

Would be so fun

[south zealot]

but dk heals so much u dont worry about them on upper

where you have to worry about prot

[chrome falcon]

yes but prot does like 3 million free damage with SR

[dawn canyon]

Depends on how sus timer is on bosses

[south zealot]

if they can handle the damage prot takes then it’s worth

[shut summit]

dont worry youll see warr today

[south zealot]

hard to say if they can live the bosses having to heal 5 players instead of 4

[chrome falcon]

[sweet summit]

ty sense

[south zealot]

think fury is solid

[oblique garnet]

AYO

[south zealot]

so maybe copium

[oblique garnet]

[south zealot]

also pog

[sweet summit]

no, sense GAMING

[toxic pewter]

OH SHIT

[brittle owl]

[shut summit]

im playin both but i just have like 25hrs total on blood dk so gona comfort pick warr in some dungeons

[chrome falcon]

qualify on BDK so you can sneak some pwarr in

the absolute madlad

[south zealot]

thats gaming

try tto not die

[chrome falcon]

yeah seriously sense don't fuck this up

my ability to get into +23 pugs on this class

[shut summit]

im wearin codex

[chrome falcon]

entirely depends on you

[toxic pewter]

LOL

[chrome falcon]

this dude's getting blocked

[south zealot]

…

[lofty widget]

based

[south zealot]

scars and fusion hacker

and legion damage ring

wokege

[dawn canyon]

B-B-BAYZED??

[strong forum]

Sir.

[south zealot]

im getting scammed

i was looking up the great push season 4 wow

and it wasnt showing up on youtube

[oblique garnet]

Is it on twitch or youtube now

[south zealot]

i had to go to warcraft channel lmao

[oblique garnet]

Ty

[south zealot]

yeah

figured it would since i typed basically the exact title

but ig not lmao

[strong forum]

Yeah discoverability on Youtube is absolute ass

You legit won't accidentally stumble upon it, you need to specifically know where to find it

[chrome falcon]

i googled "the great push" and had to scroll through 8 or 9 vods to find today's stream

uh

not google

searched on youtube lmao

[strong forum]

I complain about this everytime any wow tournament is happening

[dawn canyon]

contracted

cant do aynthign abt it

[oblique garnet]

Think youtube is improving their stream discover thingy next year

Atleast they were supposed to do that

[patent osprey]

Just watch on twitch 🙂

[onyx vessel]

Shouldn't be strictly yt

[oblique garnet]

Is it on twitch ?

[strong forum]

They could make a huge banner and pop up on blizz launcher... But hey... Too hard

[dawn canyon]

its not even on the launcher

[patent osprey]

https://www.twitch.tv/warcraft

[south zealot]

bro twitch ads are worse than youtube ads ngl

[dawn canyon]

all competitors can go stream POV

[onyx vessel]

But they are probably sponsored by yt

[dawn canyon]

so bis is watching main stream + cool run

[oblique garnet]

@shut summit are you going to stream?

[strong forum]

Only mdi and awc is bound by contract to be on youtube

[onyx vessel]

[south zealot]

minmaxing watching the great push

i fucking love this discord

[dawn canyon]

dude its the best content we get all year apart from RWF

[sweet summit]

gg are u streaming

tgp

[dawn canyon]

have to minmax it

[south zealot]

true

[sweet summit]

link

[south zealot]

i like it more than rwf

[dawn canyon]

team echo

[sweet summit]

ty man

[oblique garnet]

They 100% should

You have the name

[minor helm]

Call blizzard

And say they can’t use your team name without compensation

[dawn canyon]

if they do we tweet @ warcraft and complain

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/997086666961457203/chatting.gif

give alpha for name

ill do it then idc

its time

🙏

may sense fuck goo

[sweet summit]

may sense fuck goo

[dawn canyon]

d

[dawn canyon]

thats not what i meant with "i love gunker"

[minor helm]

Can’t wait until they say Echo wins which means you won

[sweet summit]

[dawn canyon]

GO ECHO GO

🙏

[sweet summit]

is echo playing in americas final

[oblique garnet]

Imagine gg actually ends up getting the prize money because of that

[sweet summit]

[minor helm]

[jagged pier]

its NA

[sweet summit]

that's what i said

[minor helm]

What’s NA

[oblique garnet]

Pog Doa hosting

[dawn canyon]

eh

xyro

gigantic IO oiler

[onyx vessel]

[south zealot]

any prot warriors

[onyx vessel]

🚯

[dawn canyon]

AHAHAHA

[sweet summit]

wtf gg gaming?

[south zealot]

whats the issue i dont get it

[sweet summit]

gg has the echo name

[minor helm]

Is that legal?

[south zealot]

oh

LMFAOOO

[sweet summit]

bogged

unfort

[minor helm]

Someone’s gotta call blizzard

[south zealot]

pldge

[dawn canyon]

#NOTMYECHO

[sweet summit]

which one is sense

no sense is 1st

[minor helm]

Sense #1 in our hearts

[sweet summit]

[dawn canyon]

on ranks too

just wait

[south zealot]

no jy today

bedge

[oblique garnet]

Oh what

These affixes are hella free no ?

[south zealot]

yeah

[dawn canyon]

any of these we can see sense warri in

[oblique garnet]

Its gonna be grimrail

🙏

[sweet summit]

🙏

[oblique garnet]

I FUCKING LOVE GRIMRAIL

[south zealot]

grim tomorrow

and jy day after

[vestal moat]

lol lower 24. i wonder if itll be fun to watch

[sweet summit]

2 minutes over

[chrome falcon]

i think i actually kinda like grimrail now

super affix dependent

[oblique garnet]

Ive been saying it since the beginning

[dawn canyon]

what first boss on lower??

[vestal moat]

lower tyrannical on live this week is so awful

[oblique garnet]

Grimrail is fun

Its just a hold W key

[sweet summit]

beauty and beast

[south zealot]

fort lower is a w

[sweet summit]

praig

[chrome falcon]

is multi-twitch still a thing

[sweet summit]

yea

kinda shit tho

[chrome falcon]

so i can watch commentators and winner pov

[sweet summit]

love snse

[dawn canyon]

snse

[oblique garnet]

Is someone from senses team streaming?

[sweet summit]

trying to find

no streams

[oblique garnet]

This is so sad

Only prot warrior most likely and 0 streams

Just like live keys

[sweet summit]

yea...

[urban portal]

Erga is a degen or what

[sweet summit]

keys are bugged

what the heck

where did that come from

[urban portal]

Ah you don’t know

I thought you knew

Not a degen

Maybe I’m the degen

[dawn canyon]

dude image if the randomly put awakened in WS

[sweet summit]

enlighten me?

[dawn canyon]

[urban portal]

It’s a remote controlled sex toy

I’m a super degen

So I know

[sweet summit]

uh

[urban portal]

Love sense

[ocean yoke]

👀

[oblique garnet]

I miss the aquarium sense streams

[urban portal]

He uses the apm in bed

[sweet summit]

don't know don't care

[dawn canyon]

WARRIOR SPOTTED

[chrome falcon]

HE'S PLAYING IT

LETS GOOO