blizzard said so
#protection
lusty grotto
strong forum
youll never experience true balance
limber galleon
Ok! I need to play a little bit of both I think lol
south zealot
true balance wouldnt be fun
strong forum
^
limber galleon
Not playing a game where I can’t chase that meta
coral marsh
thats just because you are conditioned to it
limber galleon
Yes
strong forum
meta chasing is fake
coral marsh
balance sucks in wow, especially myth+
strong forum
its only relevant to bad people and the absolutely high end
coral marsh
its a shame
strong forum
if not for warlock and hunter, balance would be quite good right now?
lusty grotto
im too old for this shit, i swear ive seen this same convo like 200,103 times now, in bfa s1, and before that
south zealot
every class in the game can do 25s
strong forum
like
coral marsh
warlock is the epitome of shit class balance
strong forum
❓
south zealot
if not for warlock and hunter, balance would be quite good right now?
id say so. ww a little high aff low
strong forum
warlock is the epitome of shit class balance
ye
south zealot
but overall solid
coral marsh
one patch they are bad at the start of legion, they cry and blizz instantly makes them bis again
oblique garnet
and
undone verge
every class in the game can do 25s
"I cant do high keys because my class is bad"
coral marsh
just terrible balance by ion and his team
strong forum
thing is
strong forum
why do you care
urban portal
if not for warlock and hunter, balance would be quite good right now?
Think ww a bit too strong, boomie a bit weaker
strong forum
does it affect you negatively in your gaming experience?
coral marsh
of course it does lol
lusty grotto
their feelings Nome
strong forum
in what way does it negatively affect you
south zealot
make your own keys
south zealot
invite shadow priests and boomkins
coral marsh
getting things done is way harder or easier depending how blizz balances your main
in one season you get free invites to everything and blast through
lusty grotto
south zealot
i timed a 24 streets last season with a shadow priest and a disc priest
undone verge
we had a guy in my guild who started playing Monk then swapped to shadow because 'the reason he wasnt doing good dps was because he was WW' then swapped to Destro, and the reason he wasnt doing good dps was because 'he had aoe stats' then gquit and lied to us about progging mythic jailer to 10% his first night of prog
coral marsh
other season you can apply for hours and barely make it
strong forum
i timed a 25 streets last season without any dps
coral marsh
its total aids xd
cobalt seal
:beardoubt:
south zealot
meta doesnt matter of youre not at the highest levels of content
the ABSOLUTE higest
coral marsh
ye with way more effort tho
urban portal
:beardoubt:
exaggerating but i was taking like 7k per auto with spikes up
and like 8k on a 15 with block up
or something like that
coral marsh
dont tell me you are one of those "its possible with a shit class" dudes, completely ignoring that its way harder for no extra reward
cobalt seal
it's not like
strong forum
pushing keys doesnt reward anything to begin with
cobalt seal
pwar and vdh work dif
south zealot
its harder to get into shit
urban portal
ofc
south zealot
obviously
urban portal
i just find it funny
lusty grotto
there is a reward, you play what you love to play
south zealot
make friends
strong forum
like, what reward are you chasing
coral marsh
just because its possible doesnt change anything
strong forum
other than an imaginary ranking
urban bane
Difficulty can be its own reward
strong forum
wouldnt it be a great reward to be #1 of your off meta spec ranking among all those meta chasers
alot more than being #25640 warlock?
coral marsh
the funniest shit always is one thing:
topaz field
i chose prot because i felt brew was too ez
patent osprey
wouldnt it be a great reward to be #1 of your off meta spec ranking among all th...
theres no reward in no lifing for rank 1
Trust T_T
coral marsh
mythic raiders saying "just play for fun", meanwhile if blizz took away their op gear and made it so you have to progress mythic raids with heroic gear, they would cry to no end
lusty grotto
youre making a lot of assumptions
strong forum
huh
south zealot
they earned the gesr
coral marsh
game is full of hypocrites
strong forum
theres no reward in no lifing for rank 1
fully agree
coral marsh
its just the hypocrisy
cobalt seal
🍿
coral marsh
mythic raiders saying you don't deserve 304 end reward for a +20, meanwhile if you took their 304 away from raids they would cry
lusty grotto
undone verge
I shoot for rank 2
patent osprey
fully agree
you don't even get prettier tmog or anything vs. someone who just plays the last 2 weeks and gets in top 0.1%
strong forum
but its alot more satisfying to see stuff like this
coral marsh
just cap the whole game at heroic ilvl and make mythic raids about skill, not farming the first 3 bosses for months to then overpower
sick sentinel
fully agree
It's a lonely view from the top, looking down on everyone aint it
south zealot
mythic raiders saying you don't deserve 304 end reward for a +20, meanwhile if y...
+20 isnt as easy as mythic lol
idnt as hard
i mean
coral marsh
first 3 myth bosses are always piss easy
patent osprey
but its alot more satisfying to see stuff like this
Gross, don't you dare show infested affix here ever again
Spit
lusty grotto
xD
coral marsh
just remove mythic gear and make mythic about skill
strong forum
sick sentinel
top 10 or GTFO
south zealot
just remove mythic gear and make mythic about skill
?
lusty grotto
member outdpsiing everyone except sub rogues on zul
sick sentinel
have to be on the splash screen
lusty grotto
and people were like HUH when s2 came out
oblique garnet
xd
patent osprey
Sadness :/ the game used to be where not everyone got the BIS gear, but now people kinda expect it and think its unfair if they can't do it
patent osprey
now everyone expects to get bis 😦 and its not as much of an accomplishment
coral marsh
or make it so mythic+ can farm myth gear with titanforge again
strong forum
gear is an illusion
coral marsh
shadowlands failed because it pandered to myth raiders at the expense of everyone else
topaz field
well but the fact that mythic gear is the best in m+ is a problem for m+
coral marsh
legion literally had the perfect gear system
ocean yoke
remove all mythic, raids and dungeons its a toxic word
sick sentinel
NO
patent osprey
M+ is a minigame 🙂 not real content
sick sentinel
no more titan forging
oblique garnet
L2P issues tbh
topaz field
then i have to quit wow if m+ is the minigame
sick sentinel
i only like TF if it happens to me
south zealot
what are u even talking about
sick sentinel
or my friends
lusty grotto
game of trolls!
topaz field
couz raiding is boring to me personally
dawn canyon
Ive seen a single bis warrior in s3 and that's eroka
south zealot
random legion legendary drops
strong forum
hes ramping
urban bane
gear is an illusion
I say the same thing when I start prot keys with my arms set equipped
urban portal
gear is an illusion
so true
patent osprey
Dota was a minigame of Warcraft 3 🙂 It didn't matter
chilly brook
remove all mythic, raids and dungeons its a toxic word
Unironically I’d be fine with this
chilly brook
Less difficulties would literally be better for the game
dawn canyon
Unironically I’d be fine with this
Heroic +
lusty grotto
life is a minigame of mmos
dawn canyon
urban portal
the cap would just be couple levels lower
coral marsh
imaging kneecapping your most popular game mode because myth raiders cry they don't have the best gear anymore
strong forum
people overvalue gear
strong forum
literally
topaz field
m+ would be the same correct but the pre condtion would not be the same
dawn canyon
No
sand egret
chrome falcon
I like it when my number go up
dawn canyon
You need gear
strong forum
unless youre pushing the literal highest keys in the world, it wont have an effect on your success
and even then
you can find success with current gearing
patent osprey
i dunno, im torn :/ Mythic raiding is harder than M+ generally. Its harder to get 20 people to work togeather, if not more as rosters are 24+ on average, than 5 people who can keep practicing non stop. So gear should be tied to that
unlucky
limber galleon
Not everyone seeks success, some just want to watch their gear score increase
dawn canyon
unless youre pushing the literal highest keys in the world, it wont have an effe...
Yes? If all dps are 308 not 300 it's just easier
coral marsh
neither would it affect you if mythic raids were balanced around skill and not farming the first 3 bosses for months + buying boe and then overpowering it with nerfs
dawn canyon
It's not required for the content, but makes it easier
chilly brook
imaging kneecapping your most popular game mode because myth raiders cry they do...
Is it really the most popular? Or just the one everyone does at least a little bit of because you’re guaranteed something on reset
south zealot
obviously its easier
strong forum
Yes? If all dps are 308 not 300 it's just easier
some of the highest pushers in the world dont even raid.
sooooo
dawn canyon
Greg
gritty arch
lol
dawn canyon
Rest raids
south zealot
if your dps need to be ilvl 300 for 24s or lower
topaz field
some of the highest pushers in the world dont even raid.
who is that?
dawn canyon
Mhm yea echo dont raid
south zealot
youre doing something wrong
dawn canyon
💀
sick sentinel
i would enjoy mythic + a whole fucken lot more if my ravagers and spears didnt go land on the god damn moon, and release point graveyard was at/after every boss/taxi
patent osprey
some of the highest pushers in the world dont even raid.
Some of the highest pushers in the world, have literally failed their trials in guilds for performance
coral marsh
at the very least make raid gear work like pvp gear, so its only heroic outside of raids
sick sentinel
and i didnt have to run 1 dungeon 70 times to get a trinket, or weapon
patent osprey
M+ doesn't translate to raid, and vice versa
strong forum
yup
topaz field
its legit a problem if EON is so strong that its played one season later
coral marsh
its absolutely stupid that raid gear is bis in dungeons
chilly brook
at the very least make raid gear work like pvp gear, so its only heroic outside ...
??
Wut
lusty grotto
i would enjoy mythic + a whole fucken lot more if my ravagers and spears didnt g...
lmao dude i completely forgot about that shit and did workshop last night and they went to jupiter a few times
chilly brook
This is some boomer ass takes
sick sentinel
and then at the end of the season, oh well, fuck you, your gear is now basically dog shit and can't be continued to be upgraded
have to go get a new one
sand egret
oh man I didnt know this channel had a direct feed to Reddit comments
gritty arch
I've been gone for a while boys. Is this server still ran by a tank who can't even pass a trial in a mediocre guild to keep his wowhead job?
chilly brook
You don’t need to raid to do well in m+
lusty grotto
oh man I didnt know this channel had a direct feed to Reddit comments
more like facebook aka boomerbook
coral marsh
thats why shadowlands failed, shitting on your most popular game mode just because some boomers cried they didn't have their gear privilege in legion and bfa anymore
dawn canyon
oh man I didnt know this channel had a direct feed to Reddit comments
To be honest today is a lowpoint, it's better usually
chilly brook
M+ is literally all about being a degen in dungeons
topaz field
i dont want to take anything aways from raiders i acknowledge how difficult mythic raiding is but its not for me and i dont want other players to have better chances than me in m+ due to their gear
ocean yoke
oh man I didnt know this channel had a direct feed to Reddit comments
at least it isnt quite general discussions forum tier yet
south zealot
adrenalin youre an idiot if youre serious
lusty grotto
obvious troll is obvious
sick sentinel
that was one of the defining moments where i went REEEEEEEEEE and then took a huge break
chilly brook
thats why shadowlands failed, shitting on your most popular game mode just becau...
You’re absolutely cooked if you think something changed from legion and bfa in terms of gearing
ionic fern
Who's getting the banhammer?
thorn spruce
Nom why cant I use custom emotes
lusty grotto
i didnt unsub because of how M+ is, i actually liked the valor shit
thorn spruce
What the heck
gritty arch
I WANT ANSWERS
patent osprey
Who's getting the banhammer?
come at me 🙂
coral marsh
killing m+ for mythic raiders literally killed the game
ionic fern
Nom why cant I use custom emotes
Rekt
sand egret
Mwahi is a noober
vale bobcat
shield and ows are both 246, should i go shield first if it doesnt drop from lords? i feel like shield is too important for wars
lusty grotto
sick sentinel
like, ovkay, you have to put your ravager down, trying to put it down, ITS IN THE GOD DAMN CHANDELIERS ON THE ROOF 20 feet up
sick sentinel
its immensly frustratin
chilly brook
killing m+ for mythic raiders literally killed the game
It’s literally the same as it was in bfa…..
ocean yoke
like, ovkay, you have to put your ravager down, trying to put it down, ITS IN TH...
its just a successful helicopter transmog really
ionic fern
come at me 🙂
I don't respond to people higher in io than me cause they are tryhards.
sick sentinel
that shit makes me actual mad
south zealot
dps in my guild said i should consider buying a cheat death trinket with dinars
thorn spruce
How much rio do you have mwahi?
lusty grotto
mwahi not responding to me, which means im a try hard
south zealot
bc its good defensively
strong forum
and people with lower io than me are wrong, thats how the world works amirite
dawn canyon
Picking based on icon coolness 
chrome falcon
bc its good defensively
Block
thorn spruce
how much rio? >:(
thorn spruce
I need to know if we can talk
patent osprey
wait has nom always been orange?
oblique garnet
Cant you just behave till im done raiding 
cobalt seal
I've been gone for a while boys. Is this server still ran by a tank who can't ev...
yeah
patent osprey
I never noticed
strong forum
a couple months now plka
lusty grotto
wait has nom always been orange?
no
patent osprey
muh bad LOL
jagged pier
wait has nom always been orange?
new thing
patent osprey
Congratz
strong forum
sick sentinel
this was after the pinned message and he had a highlight on wowhead
lusty grotto
he was yeller back in s1
sick sentinel
he's just generally a good guy overall
ionic fern
I need to know if we can talk
No,tryhard.:(
lusty grotto
and then he was shit color
thorn spruce
How much D:
lusty grotto
before that
strong forum
wouldve gotten another wowhead post but alpha came in the way 😦
thorn spruce
I dont have a lot but I need to know
gritty arch
yeah
thats rough buddy. i guess people have time to run a discord because theyre too shit at the game to actually play it #nottoxictho
cobalt seal
wouldve gotten another wowhead post but alpha came in the way 😦
you mean a certain DH with a toy macroed on FD?
strong forum
👉
chilly brook
You’re trying way too hard
patent osprey
its bad but I don't even know who runs skyhold XD
ionic fern
How much D:
lusty grotto
xD
thorn spruce
Oh dear
gilded tendonBOT
strong forum
green man is hidden
dawn canyon
He was here earlier
cobalt seal
thats rough buddy. i guess people have time to run a discord because theyre too ...
you could make it a bit less obvious that you are trolling
chilly brook
Prolly because it literally doesn’t matter who runs it
dawn canyon
Deadge
jagged pier
its bad but I don't even know who runs skyhold XD
greenman > blues> orange > yellows
patent osprey
<browns
ionic fern
mwahi not responding to me, which means im a try hard
You just have bad taste in emojis.
dawn canyon
What about purple
lusty grotto
You just have bad taste in emojis.
sick sentinel
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/sargeras/boltimert this is my re-roll mage
minor helm
The only thing lower than a brown is a red
ionic fern
Orange is just a pimped out yellow you annoy with math.
urban bane
Browntown for life 
chilly brook
You just have bad taste in emojis.
ionic fern
And hot takes.
sick sentinel
he should be showing as 270
ionic fern
sick sentinel
i think
dawn canyon
W
minor helm
patent osprey
Reds are actually the P2W kinda players
lusty grotto
ngl i left the auto nitro shit on when i quit
sick sentinel
yeah, cuz i got new weapons and a cloak and bunch of other crap
minor helm
Hell I’d pay
sick sentinel
nope, not me, i just don't see the point subscribing to it
south zealot
how to be yellow name
chilly brook
Tbh poverty nitro the only good nitro
lusty grotto
and i only paid cause of our daddy whos now gone 😦
gritty arch
why be yellow name when you can aspire to be green name
south zealot
Be bad at game
i use codex and im kyrian
south zealot
disc kekw
lusty grotto
xD
patent osprey
so if orange is yelling at me and a yellow is yelling at me, who do I need to not listen to first
minor helm
Orange those are number nerds
lusty grotto
so if orange is yelling at me and a yellow is yelling at me, who do I need to no...
yes
minor helm
thorn spruce
so if orange is yelling at me and a yellow is yelling at me, who do I need to no...
Tell them both off and flex your r.io
ionic fern
Tell them both off and flex your r.io
This.
minor helm
Distract them by saying codex is 7% of your dam
patent osprey
^
thorn spruce
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ionic fern
patent osprey
im gonna use codex this season just to fight against the man
minor helm
dawn canyon
I love content tuesdays
patent osprey
Ive never used it, but Times change
lusty grotto
xD
gritty arch
am...am i doing this right?
https://i.imgur.com/1dqN5xQ.png
minor helm
Put a reminder on screen so your viewers know as well
ionic fern
Ive never used it, but Times change
Don't use too much revenges/ss's so it looks higher on damage done.
thorn spruce
Can you tell who are colored names in tank discords based off the codex comment?
jagged pier
hey look i linked a calc for DF this morning that had all the stops in it. and got memed on even tho i was follow what the top io warrior was saying about wanting stops
minor helm
jagged pier
so imm just make trees for damage now
ionic fern
dawn canyon
hey look i linked a calc for DF this morning that had all the stops in it. and g...
People dont read
strong forum
Ive never used it, but Times change
sir
jagged pier
Ive never used it, but Times change
minor helm
Wish I still had old phones pig2
lusty grotto
ready to be turned into bacon
dawn canyon
🐖
thorn spruce
:pig1:
oblique garnet
im gonna use codex this season just to fight against the man
minor helm
south zealot
i pray they make monk tree
dawn canyon
Pig3>monk tree
thorn spruce
im gonna use codex this season just to fight against the man
Just to cause violence
zealous willow
brewmaster is rdy to dominate next expansion trust me i know
brazen trail
yo is codex good
brazen trail
ty
south zealot
yea
ionic fern
Yes.
brazen trail
no
jagged pier
zealous willow
ppl say codex is so good we gona use it next expansion so dont sell it
oblique garnet
gonna start playing this
jagged pier
Fallu wanna come back
no point in ppl coming back @ionic fern coming back in DF and gunna outplay us all in cloth gear
ionic fern
south zealot
gonna start playing this
would u rather use this or codex
lusty grotto
mwahi are you still maintaining the APL or did that get handed off to someone else
ionic fern
No,i'm retired.
lusty grotto
oh sadge
jagged pier
would u rather use this or codex
pocket-sized
ionic fern
I think Nom did the latest apl with Asa.
lusty grotto
i was retired too
thorn spruce
Mwahi you should come for 5tank runs :Blushtips:
lusty grotto
but i came back 😄
urban portal
gonna start playing this
sim this vs codex
ionic fern
thorn spruce
@strong forum fix?
ionic fern
I give Nom orange and he starts ignoring me.
thorn spruce
:(
ionic fern
thorn spruce
Fucked up
strong forum
asa yoinked it on his own
jagged pier
But no one invites me.
keys next weekend?
strong forum
cuz i hyped up a few people :giggle:
ionic fern
keys next weekend?
Yes.
lusty grotto
NA
jagged pier
lusty grotto
cause EU is not allowed today
ebon wren
what ilvl will dinar trinkets be?
strong forum
278
lusty grotto
i dont, im NA xD
ebon wren
dang ok
thorn spruce
Okay mwahi whats your ilvl?
toxic pewter
Sfo with fated may actually be fun
ionic fern
what about you saying "uuuh im out, cant"
No bully.
lusty grotto
im making money to fuel my nitro sub
alpine shard
gonna start playing this
i miss that trinket man
lusty grotto
wait there's maintenance? i thought it was just restarts today
ionic fern
Okay mwahi whats your ilvl?
alpine shard
there's always maintenance
ionic fern
ebon wren
think ill just be waiting for my aegis to appear in vault
ionic fern
I've actually done dungeons..just 0 loot.
thorn spruce
Its okay we can funnel :bearnodders:
lusty grotto
i only had time to do LFR 😦
vernal vale
I've actually done dungeons..just 0 loot.
Loot is sometimes not your friend
south zealot
maintenance supposed to end rig as i get off work pog
don’t look at my second trinket
solid granite
dat spikey ball trinket
south zealot
i go ows
solid granite
i mean, my trinkets are worse, but that ball tho
south zealot
its troll asf lmao
south zealot
thorn spruce
:blushtips:
solid granite
and before you ask - nf because mobility. i aint gonna face tank 22+ keys
uneven mason
Wat
strong forum
kiting in s4?
south zealot
urban portal
dh moment
thorn spruce
lfd uwu
strong forum
i mean i aint gonna tell you to stop, but
coral marsh
i really miss kiting, more skill less gear
south zealot
lmao
lusty grotto
guy is still going for the troll
south zealot
yeah running away from mobs in engaging gameplay
lusty grotto
xD
coral marsh
overgear facetanking is worse
urban portal
the skill is not pressing S
solid granite
guy is still going for the troll
shhh.. dont wake em up
uneven mason
overgear facetanking is worse
Do higher keys
lusty grotto
queen hemlock
wait are we not suppose to kite now?
uneven mason
Solves overgear problem
oblique garnet
Solves overgear problem
when have we kited
urban portal
never start a key
ocean yoke
leaper BIS
uneven mason
So be dh got it
south zealot
https://youtu.be/n97QhosYv0k @coral marsh is this the gaming you like
uneven mason
when have we kited
Idk
oblique garnet
was reply to wrong person 
sand egret
tbh I play Prot War so I dont have to kite
lusty grotto
gotta applaud the trolls, they still bite lmao
sand egret
that's like the whole appeal
solid granite
🎣
south zealot
im bored at work i dont mind engaging
lusty grotto
vdh is my second favorite tank
muted nexus
queen hemlock
oh god is that king's rest
south zealot
queen hemlock
horribad
oblique garnet
PTSD
ocean yoke
get z*l out of here
muted nexus
oblique garnet
Zul 
lusty grotto
im purposely ignoring the fort zul chat
muted nexus
south zealot
zul on fortified is literally the hardest thing ive ever experienced in any dungeon
muted nexus
sand egret
tfw Zul on Fort was harder than Zul the raid boss
lusty grotto
hey just clap
sand egret
not as hard as....
south zealot
kiting to graveyard to rez and kill 
sand egret
Trevor the Infested Squirrel
solid granite
im purposely ignoring the fort zul chat
Zul can't hurt you, he aint real
lusty grotto
zul raid boss was a bro
gibe parse
i think fort zul was the reason i kept repeating the reflective plating thing
solid granite
So, back to the kiting - i prefer going bolster to tank for a bit and than kite away
^-^
patent osprey
there was a famous high key where the havoc dh and prot warrior both hearthed out and the dh went tank + war went dps to time the high kr
lusty grotto
yeah i remember that
patent osprey
people thought that might be the strat for awhile
patent osprey
no lol was so long ago
oblique garnet
iirc that was fem and co who did that
lusty grotto
ohhh ya
oblique garnet
they had vulpera camps right outside of kr
south zealot
why did they do the switch
uneven mason
Getting kr on a fort week was the week you ran other people's keys
oblique garnet
why did they do the switch
because zul was dumb pre corruption vendor
uneven mason
or u do a weekle no leavers 25 kr run
For the entire week
south zealot
was dh there to kite it better?
uneven mason
was dh there to kite it better?
The had 2 cheat death's iirc
oblique garnet
so it sort of lived zul
south zealot
oh fair enough
solid granite
you member SL S1 vdh magic damage miti? cuz i member
south zealot
didnt play s1
uneven mason
I remember they were the kite meme kings
coral marsh
dh tank is another great example why classes suck, make a tank about selfhealing because thats the only thing we dont have yet and it's obviously always too good or useless
thorn spruce
bdk?
coral marsh
is not pure selfheal
topaz field
one question the change on the wranglers does this mean they can be blocked?
urban portal
blood dk was pure self heal until this patch
topaz field
because it only states reduced my armor
coral marsh
bdk was always more about bone shield and shit
urban portal
one question the change on the wranglers does this mean they can be blocked?
the guys that throw?
lusty grotto
yes i had to reroll vdh
topaz field
yep
lusty grotto
so i remember
urban portal
bdk was always more about bone shield and shit
bone shields are almost 0 mitigation
its like 9% dr or osmething
its a joke
its a maintainence buff
modern brook
? How is a self heal tank going to heal damage that'll one shot jt eithout some form of dr
What a take.
coral marsh
ye, so its either overtuned and doesnt need a healer or useless
urban portal
bdk has to rotate through their arsenal of random defensives to not die
lusty grotto
just make every tank like ffxiv WAR
urban portal
vdh DR is slightly better but not much
topaz field
i eventually gave up on tracking demon spikes as a healer 😄 because it does nothing
urban portal
spikes give a lot more DR than bone shield
bone shield gives 0.7x main stat
spikes give 0.75x main stat +mastery+15% parry
topaz field
does this make demon spikes good or bone shield even worse? xD
lusty grotto
the true BIS tank
modern brook
What is this animal crossing mod
lusty grotto
yes
lusty grotto
wow andys malding
modern brook
I don't even play wow
modern brook
The game is dog shit
lusty grotto
well i cant disagree with that
the amount of garbage i needed to do to catch up is insane lol
and im not even close to being caught up
lusty grotto
oh well your buddy is worse cause i quit in s1
lusty grotto
"what is that"
modern brook
Honestly why are you friends with him disgusting
lusty grotto
smh
drifting fable
got out before everyone
modern brook
Whenever a new person talks to me I just stop em and ask what level their main js
lusty grotto
lmao
modern brook
I don't associate with non maxers
lusty grotto
true that's why im going with codex, cause bull talks to me
uneven mason
Maybe they won't make season 1 of df last nearly a year
lusty grotto
was it that long
modern brook
Like 10 months iirc
uneven mason
Like 280 days?
strong forum
9 months or smth
lusty grotto
i cant remember which part of s1 i quit in then
drifting fable
i quit in march of that year. kinda crazy to think it went on for like another 4 months lol
toxic pewter
how far above is ows over rdm. would I just be insane to take rdm this week
uneven mason
I quit at the 5 month mark due to moving and stayed quit when I finally found another house 3 months later because 9.1 still hadn't come out
lusty grotto
i quit around may 2021
modern brook
It was like 9 months with no alt friendlyness
south zealot
sup gamers
modern brook
Absolute slog
south zealot
is rdm better than ows in m+
topaz field
no totally fine
lusty grotto
so RDM and Codex, got it
drifting fable
topaz field
so RDM and Codex, got it
codex then rdm
south zealot
hmm
lusty grotto
no fr, its RDM and what seriously asking
toxic pewter
@strong forum I know it varies by dungeon, but is soleah even better than ows if out of combat occurs often in a dungeon (like upper kara)
drifting fable
ows
south zealot
rdm ows or rdm aegis in omega high keys
topaz field
i dont think aegis is that super good this season tbh
lusty grotto
yea saw the pin but there's no priority so
topaz field
its a nice to have button
lusty tiger
Anyone have a juiced up rdm log?
lusty grotto
ive heard ows has been bis for like 2 seasons?
topaz field
but shouldnt need it too often
toxic pewter
Aegis can be gamechanging tbh in grimrail depot u can stand still in all the shit for 8 seconds
south zealot
i think its important for double or triple demon pulls
drifting fable
pretty much
toxic pewter
aegis is strong as ever tbh
drifting fable
the heroic one from S2 was outdpsing most S3 trinks
topaz field
yes but if u want to min max
patent gorge
Aegis is nice on the mini boss
topaz field
aegis does zero dmg
patent gorge
and those bleeds on grim rail
lusty grotto
forgot
toxic pewter
yeah but it can save your group if shit goes down
topaz field
so can good play
lusty grotto
wait so what lvl gear do dinars get anyway
drifting fable
rdm drops from Guardian and ows drops from Sylvanas if you want the regular sources
276 right?
lusty grotto
and then you gotta farm the bosses in higher diff for upgrades
toxic pewter
wait so what lvl gear do dinars get anyway
normal, then upgrade with 20 of those items u get for killing bosses in heroic/mythic
lusty grotto
another legit question, i think i saw last season something about banner uptime
south zealot
i just go ows
lusty grotto
just spam revenge or what
lusty grotto
so spam revenge, got it
sand egret
another legit question, i think i saw last season something about banner uptime
maximize rage spent during your LS window via the conduit
sand egret
🐀
patent gorge
dont waste shield slam procs , along with outburst on shield slam to get max rage
sand egret
venge slaps
topaz field
cause shield block not worth
feeds perfectly into your bis trinket (codex)
lusty grotto
hell ya
sand egret
gotta shed the ol' preconceptions Nimmy
muted nexus
i want voice options for all the races if i have to listen to vulpera pre-teen yell every time i ip
toxic pewter
Vulpera my favorite race
topaz field
nah vulpera is anti codex gameplay
muted nexus
sand egret
DI Dorf BIS Beard and therefore BIS overall
lusty grotto
gotta shed the ol' preconceptions Nimmy
yeah still getting used to the playstyle
strong forum
imagine having voice lines turned on
lol
error speech is the first thing to turn off
lusty grotto
fem orc grunts
strong forum
aswell as game sound
lusty grotto
raaAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa
sand egret
weirdly enough, the game sound is what i use as my "move" response to Curator's Discharge
lusty grotto
thats how fem orc sounds like
sand egret
i have a tracker but I honestly just listen for it lol
lusty grotto
LOL
oh excuse me
its not fem orc, its body type 2 orc
my apologies
meanwhile in ffxiv
modern brook
Yeah let's use japan as our barometer for gender fluidity
lusty grotto
lmaooooo
fast latch
If I have a 304 Sol’eas, do you think I’d be okay picking up OWS tonight if I mainly just wanna do keys?
toxic pewter
If I have a 304 Sol’eas, do you think I’d be okay picking up OWS tonight if I ma...
Dude i am in the same situation, i got a 304 soleah
lusty grotto
wait dont you need 30 kills for dinar items? has it been 3 weeks?
oblique garnet
If I have a 304 Sol’eas, do you think I’d be okay picking up OWS tonight if I ma...
yes
muted nexus
wait dont you need 30 kills for dinar items? has it been 3 weeks?
this week 3
toxic pewter
wait dont you need 30 kills for dinar items? has it been 3 weeks?
can do 11 bosses today
fast latch
Tonight will be week 3.
lusty grotto
well shit
fast latch
Mythic OWS it is. Thank you!
muted nexus
wait it's 11 today? so 19/30 is the current #?
drifting fable
20/30
south zealot
can only get 10 per week
drifting fable
theres 31 across the 3
lusty grotto
thanks for letting me know that im way more behind than i thought i was lolll
fast latch
I didn’t know if I’d need to buy codex or RDM or Aegis or something. I only do 25s.
muted nexus
both of my chars have full cleared fcn/fsod and got 19/30
south zealot
havent we done 21 bosses
fast latch
^
south zealot
oh i just miscounted then
muted nexus
i tried fullclear norm/lfr
fast latch
I see so many people using codex that I thought I fucked up by not upgrading mine.
muted nexus
no go :<
south zealot
good choice not upgrading it
muted nexus
it's a known bug
oblique garnet
I see so many people using codex that I thought I fucked up by not upgrading min...
ive been running ows + soleahs in basically every key
median tulip
both of my chars have full cleared fcn/fsod and got 19/30 <:sadge:82020236335985...
I had this. Sylvannas Normal gave no credit. I went and did LFR RQ for the last point
oblique garnet
With the exception of pre nerf id
toxic pewter
With the exception of pre nerf id
osnap... didnt consider to run both soleah and ows
thats so much haste
fast latch
Do you like the feel of it? This is my first tier really doing prot warrior in keys.
strong forum
when can i import d2 barb shout noise to all voice lines
with addons
or weakauras, its available instantly
south zealot
real gamers use 252 aegis and spike grenade
oblique garnet
Do you like the feel of it? This is my first tier really doing prot warrior in k...
yeah i like playing with 90% haste at the end of the dungeon
drifting fable
Do you like the feel of it? This is my first tier really doing prot warrior in k...
lot better than playing it in slands
fast latch
I’m 2600ish, so pretty small right now. But I want haste lol
topaz field
90 % haste plus enhancer yep
south zealot
2600 beating me sadge
strong forum
i can confidently say
toxic pewter
I am a big aegis fan personally, can enable to pull even more and just so strong
urban portal
apb is so right
strong forum
i feel NO DIFFERENCE between beginning of key haste vs end of key haste
fast latch
I played blood and brew but warrior just looks and feels wayyyyy more fun.
south zealot
i do
oblique garnet
i feel NO DIFFERENCE between beginning of key haste vs end of key haste
you notice it in sb uptime
toxic pewter
...
drifting fable
strong forum
and nobody ever will
toxic pewter
You sound like me from 3 months ago
lusty grotto
fast latch
I’ll just stick to my sol and OWS. All the fucking haste.
lusty grotto
im picking up the new memes okay
strong forum
a correct choice
oblique garnet
you also dont notice codex superiority so
I stg if you keep this up there will be consequences
south zealot
nomer would u go rdm over ows
oblique garnet
RDM is like your solid 2nd choice
fast latch
But I killed guardian mythic.
lusty grotto
I stg if you keep this up there will be consequences <:Pepexecute:59560652527239...
i dont believe you, wait... now im curious
oblique garnet
You would go rdm over soleahs
fast latch
So, I feel like I can get the drop.
strong forum
nomer would u go rdm over ows
probably ye
but dream comp is rdm + ows
or rdm + aegis in some ultra demanding keys
fast latch
If I actually pushed above 25s, I think I’d do rdm and aegis.
strong forum
rdm is free 1k+ dps and hps
fast latch
But I do baby keys.
toxic pewter
I know this sounds strange, but does leech on my 291 aegis make it stronger to the point I dont use RDM over it
no right
leech isnt that strong
fast latch
So, OWS and soleahs seems like a decent choice.
strong forum
rdm is massive dmg
fast latch
And they’re good for raid too.
urban portal
I know this sounds strange, but does leech on my 291 aegis make it stronger to t...
you can use what you like
muted nexus
leech is stonks tho
urban portal
RDM aegis all good
strong forum
leech is good dont get me wrong
fast latch
The other one that I might consider is RDM/soleahs.
toxic pewter
rdm is free 1k+ dps and hps
1k dps holy shit i didnt realize its that strong
urban portal
dont make too much of a different
topaz field
aegis is a big dps loss tho
urban portal
where are you seeing 1k?
strong forum
1k dps holy shit i didnt realize its that strong
and thats WITHOUT the 20% "cheat death" proc
toxic pewter
wtf
urban portal
i see 500/600 ish
urban portal
in logs today
fast latch
But I don’t wanna waste a dinar since I can kill guardian mythic.
urban portal
heroic rdm
toxic pewter
rdm soleah for now
urban portal
it was like a streets 26
topaz field
rdm is fantastic
toxic pewter
I take it items bought with dinar cannot proc tertiary stats, right
fast latch
Do you think it’s better offensively and defensively over OWS though?
topaz field
thats hard to say
fast latch
I take it items bought with dinar cannot proc tertiary stats, right
Probably not
It has to be close, I imagine
The shorter the fight, the more value RDM would have over OWS.
I imagine, at least.
south zealot
u convinced me lmao
topaz field
it will be the same as season 2 that everyone eventually plays rdm
fast latch
^ same tbh lol
fast latch
Fine. Nomer convinced me.
muted nexus
urban portal
Ah
crystal iris
not even 7% tho like codex
strong forum
but mainstat.
urban portal
Guess just dungeon downtime gap
south zealot
codex isnt even 7%
toxic pewter
Can ows even be put into numbers as far as dps/hps increase
strong forum
so its 13% vs 5% codex
crystal iris
😂
urban portal
Can ows even be put into numbers as far as dps/hps increase
Dps is just sims
fast latch
Can ows even be put into numbers as far as dps/hps increase
Sort of, yes.
urban portal
Hps harder
fast latch
^
topaz field
u can sim ows
toxic pewter
how much dps ows give in 25 minute dungeon always in combat
toxic pewter
damn that shit really do be reflectin
fast latch
You can break it down to relative increase in iP/SB/etc uptime and use deterministic logic to get some relative hps/defensive value.
muted nexus
what's the toy that keeps u in combat for ows
crystal iris
how are sims coded to work with IP? it uses it for rage dump when theres no time to revenge?
strong forum
toxic pewter
It actually speaks for itself 850 dps is no joke
strong forum
how are sims coded to work with IP? it uses it for rage dump when theres no time...
yes
it uses IP over certain rage thresholds depending on CD availability and SS availability and if LS is up and so on
automatically
lusty grotto
I stg if you keep this up there will be consequences <:Pepexecute:59560652527239...
as a sco and nerf fan, who has definitely not meme'd about them in the past, where does codex drop and why is it the best?
crystal iris
automatically
neat
lusty grotto
lemme look this up in the googles
toxic pewter
on RDM, does the 20% effect occur independently of the ppm of the 'normal' effect or do they share a cooldown in a way
strong forum
ignore_pain,if=target.health.pct>=20&(target.health.pct>=80&!covenant.venthyr)&(rage>=85&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&buff.shield_block.up|rage>=60&cooldown.demoralizing_shout.ready&talent.booming_voice.enabled|rage>=70&cooldown.avatar.ready|rage>=40&cooldown.demoralizing_shout.ready&talent.booming_voice.enabled&buff.last_stand.up|rage>=55&cooldown.avatar.ready&buff.last_stand.up|rage>=80|rage>=55&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&buff.outburst.up&buff.shield_block.up|rage>=30&cooldown.shield_slam.ready&buff.outburst.up&buff.last_stand.up&buff.shield_block.up),use_off_gcd=1
this is the line for IP in sims
if you wanna figure out how its being used
lusty grotto
OH
i did this boss a few times last night
its the symbols portals one
target spotted
fast latch
Yup. Farm him. BoD.
lusty grotto
so according to wowhead
tearing sawtooth blade is the weapon i should go for
hmm
or is it fusion hacker idk
lusty grotto
what is a zophex
strong forum
streets first boss
lusty grotto
oh the one that comes out of the portal
that i definitely didnt die clearing trash to by standing on the beams repeatedly
lusty grotto
hold up why is that 14/12? are you hacking nome
muted nexus
vault can go to 14 B)
strong forum
cuz its vault
lusty grotto
ok so definitely hacking
lusty grotto
south zealot
i have that pog
crystal iris
``` ignore_pain,if=target.health.pct>=20&(target.health.pct>=80&!covenant.ven...
jeeeeeez
lot of variables
strong forum
took me a while to write it down ye
lusty grotto
any decent replacements for kelthuzad wrists?
crystal iris
well done
strong forum
and that line alone gave us 4k dps
strong forum
use 👏 ignore 👏 pain 👏 to 👏 deal 👏 damage
strong forum
use_off_gcd=1 that line alone gave a ton.
100%
lusty grotto
but sir
sick sentinel
any other reccomends for future re-roll specs? not sold on evoker i think
crystal iris
I feel like we keep sayng that
oblique garnet
Games are supposed to be enjoyed so play whatever is fun for you
drifting fable
I feel like we keep sayng that
its a hard concept for some
sick sentinel
something less forgiving spec
crystal iris
I tihnk he enjoys the prot disc more than the game
toxic pewter
wait how do you do damage with ignore pain
sick sentinel
errr more
lusty grotto
you spam it so much
strong forum
wait how do you do damage with ignore pain
thats the mystery of it all 🧚
lusty grotto
the game gets a seizure
toxic pewter
lol interesting
sick sentinel
i've been thinking about trying dps DH in DF
balmy canyon
What are you guys going for with first dinar? OWS or a defensive trinket?
lusty grotto
Games are supposed to be enjoyed so play whatever is fun for you
what wrists to get sir
sick sentinel
still haven't hopped on that bandwagon
strong forum
typicall OWS should be your first dinar
coral marsh
has someone an optimized lkara route for me? maxed out
strong forum
its all around an amazing trinket
oblique garnet
what wrists to get sir
Creation catalyst
strong forum
and killing sylv is less likely for most over say guardian and the nine
lusty grotto
hmm doesnt that turn it into tier
strong forum
tier wrists?
drifting fable
its the same armor set
oblique garnet
no it rerolls to crit/haste stats
drifting fable
wrists from tier are good
strong forum
CC turns all items to Sepulchre items
specific ones
and wrists happen to be crit&haste
lusty grotto
so that's how it works
strong forum
yeah its amazing
toxic pewter
I am going to do it i am an RDM man now, through and through
drifting fable
ye. everything but jewelry trink and weps
lusty grotto
on that note, wowhead is an amazing website im glad i read this mythic+ bis list
👍
for anyone scrolling, im not being serious
or am i?
sick sentinel
what do you even do with the dinars
crystal iris
whats wrong with wrists
sick sentinel
once you get them
toxic pewter
can buy an item
drifting fable
go farm those bracers bro