is this a bug
#protection
chrome falcon
holy fuck
that's so bad for DK
with all their parry
how has anyone ever actually worn this trinket
and not hated themselves
south zealot
in s3 everyone was so hyped about it
strong forum
fun fact
south zealot
im genuinely happy i didnt get it to drop
strong forum
in s2 and s3 it was always worse than RDM
jagged pier
but the top io ppl still are running it so it must be good right ? C:
waxen frigate
Wait so how tf does Rygelon work
chrome falcon
no there's no way it has always worked like that
strong forum
rygelon melees alot
chrome falcon
i SWEAR my BDK reflected for like 50k
south zealot
why are they running it tho
chrome falcon
off a rygelon massive bang
strong forum
why are they running it tho
cuz theyre dumb
chrome falcon
let me check
waxen frigate
But isn’t the Rygelon shit the magic?
oblique garnet
its physical iirc
waxen frigate
No shot it’s always worked like that
strong forum
getting the proc is different
oblique garnet
or you mean the melees
chrome falcon
or wait
strong forum
once codex procs, it does its absorb
strong forum
but GETTING THE PROC
waxen frigate
Oh
strong forum
only works off of auto attacks
waxen frigate
So
oblique garnet
Dogshit stamina trinket anyways 
waxen frigate
Monk mastery doesn’t work on it
oblique garnet
And nobody noticed???
Wouldnt surprise me
strong forum
lemme check
waxen frigate
I’ve had over 1000% dodge as monk
Wait
No
That checks out actually
Wait
No
Fuck now I’m confused I hate this stupid trinket
strong forum
codex did proc on that fight
oblique garnet
just vendor it and never think about it again
This
sweet summit
last boss nw "casts" are auto attacks no?
sweet summit
L idiot specs
violet violet
anyone know if we have any heals other than victory rush that can crit?
strong forum
so basically theyre like "shoot"
sweet summit
it can not
violet violet
got drape of shame and curious if its worth using
sweet summit
indom can not
sick sentinel
IV/VR
violet violet
okay dope that makes sense thanks guys
sweet summit
mechagon heal ring can crit :v)
sick sentinel
those can crit
sweet summit
but don't do that
waxen frigate
jagged pier
does codex work for wrangler spears
i would rather skip them than wear that trinket
chrome falcon
oh yeah i just mean if it's proc'd
we finally found a way to mitigate it
i think that dude that tanks with yuumy, the paladin doing like 30s, he's wearing codex
but i dunno if it's good for paladin or not
chrome falcon
vendor spec?
chrome falcon
strong forum
pretty sure codex is unlikely to proc on those packs
urban portal
i was watching tattman
codex uptime wasnt that bad on the pull
he accidentally broke cc on the 2nd throw
if he didnt have codex he was dead
he barely lived
not saying codex is good
but it idd something there
waxen frigate
it has its uses in bleeding edge keys
strong forum
well thats a very niche scenario of an unmitigatable attack
strong forum
being able to be mitigated by 10%
waxen frigate
anyone denying that who isn't doing bleeding edge keys is dumb imo
waxen frigate
i just mean in general cross the tanks
strong forum
this is 1 extremely specific example
urban portal
ye
strong forum
its literally only good for VDH
waxen frigate
because this conversation happens daily in every tank cord
waxen frigate
Again I don't think you can really pass judgment on content that you aren't doing that's so far removed from what you are doing
The literal best tanks in the world would not be using it otherwise
chrome falcon
i mean you can when it's just numerically provable by logs or
waxen frigate
but your logs or their logs
chrome falcon
theirs.
waxen frigate
agreed
that doesnt mean i will use it myself
because it will not provide the same thing for me
because im not doing 30s
but if someone is only doing 20s
oblique garnet
The literal best tanks in the world would not be using it otherwise
Are you calling tattman one of the best tanks in the world?
waxen frigate
their opinion on 30s isn't very relevant imo compared to the ones doing it
waxen frigate
Are you calling tattman one of the best tanks in the world?
no i'm calling drohgoh, naowh, nerf, etc.
i have no idea who tattman is lmao
plenty of people are using codex for the wrong reasons
waxen frigate
all of them are using it for the wrong reasons
lmao
oblique garnet
no i'm calling drohgoh, naowh, nerf, etc.
nerf 
Hes good m+ tank but my god he needs to learn the base specs
oblique garnet
He is fucking awful at warrior
waxen frigate
he's not that great of a raider
oblique garnet
nono
strong forum
He is fucking awful at warrior
any tank
strong forum
go ask the bears, vdhs or bdks how they feel about nerf
youll find the same responses
waxen frigate
again--he's doing something right that is working for him. Whether that applies to the general population is up for debate.
And he is doing harder content than you, so I'm going to take his word for his content.
strong forum
throwback to s1 when he did 27s on bear and the only frenzied regens he used were the ones that procced from being low
chrome falcon
yes that "something right" is being very good at mythic in general and playing with 4 other extremely good players
waxen frigate
it's not gospel
strong forum
throwback to s1 when he only used convoke 4 times per key
throwback to s3 on bdk when he only pressed tombstone 5 times in PF32
when its supposed to be used roughly 1 per minute
oblique garnet
Its basic things like using your active mitigation to make it alot easier on the healer etc that he is saving for idk what
strong forum
throwback to nerf saying haste/vers weapon is better than gavel cuz it averages out better over a key
oblique garnet
yikes
strong forum
which is absolutely astronomically wrong
waxen frigate
ok maybe nerf wasnt the best example i was just fishing for names tbh
strong forum
nerf is good at keys
and he has a good group
but hes not good at his classes
same with alot of other high key players
waxen frigate
So why are they the ones on top, is my question
oblique garnet
Because they play keys 12 hours a day with same group?
strong forum
because they are the ones that bother and have the group coordination to do so
if anything
waxen frigate
Because they play keys 12 hours a day with same group?
So anyone could just do that then
oblique garnet
Pretty much
waxen frigate
if they just play 12hrs/day with the same group
strong forum
this confirms that you dont need to be the best at your individual class, but rather need to have a good group coordination
oblique garnet
Assuming the group has decent players then yeah
Theres a reason petko was high on m+ rankings too
chrome falcon
if they just play 12hrs/day with the same group
quite literally yes
waxen frigate
Well then I urge y'all to get out there and push some 35s
jagged girder
It's all about coordination and awereness
waxen frigate
no because i have a life
not based
strong forum
^
chrome falcon
if someone paid me to do it sure
oblique garnet
Im working on it but finding a group is the issue
waxen frigate
Im working on it but finding a group is the issue
that is very fair i do know that feel
chrome falcon
but finding a group is the problem
waxen frigate
i'm at 2500 right now
jagged pier
Im working on it but finding a group is the issue
then just dont 🤷
waxen frigate
we have 3 consistent people
1 on and off
but healer is about to start school again so rip her
oblique garnet
I can maybe grab like 1-2 people for couple of keys and do like 3-4 keys before people quit
jagged pier
thats 3 more than me
chrome falcon
i'm 2.4 off just pugs
problem is that doing some of the shit in docks and lower it's just horrific off discord
waxen frigate
I run with the same healer/lock mostly because they're around
waxen frigate
problem is that doing some of the shit in docks and lower it's just horrific off...
oh for sure
bricked 23 docks yesterday because they sent stars at complete wrong time
literally hit 2 mobs with final star 🙂
oblique garnet
F
waxen frigate
even though i specifically said "let the lock do the stars, he is in discord with me"
strong forum
nish
waxen frigate
sup
strong forum
does doing 25s with ultra off meta comp count as high content
strong forum
like say
waxen frigate
but the difference between a 25 and 30 is pretty staggering
strong forum
keys without a dps
waxen frigate
eh
strong forum
and keys without a healer?
waxen frigate
tanks are effectively both of those right now
if it's a 5 tank group that you're getting at
strong forum
ye
oblique garnet
uneven mason
So why are they the ones on top, is my question
People see the keys they complete, you don't see the dozens of keys they brick practicing
oblique garnet
Would be fun to see how high you can go with only tanks tbh
waxen frigate
Would be fun to see how high you can go with only tanks tbh
p sure there are ppl who do that
every season
lusty tiger
I did a 2x tank low jy and the guardian was ripping over 100k dps pulls
waxen frigate
usually decently far past average pug keys
strong forum
youll be delighted at what we have planned
waxen frigate
People see the keys they complete, you don't see the dozens of keys they brick p...
and they learn things from that
it's not like they fluke their way through it after 200 tries
uneven mason
Right
waxen frigate
also tbf you do see a lot of those keys because they stream most of them, depending on the player
exception being hiding TGP strats right now
oblique garnet
Hide TGP strats for now and when the tourney begins people just adapt to them
cinder storm
even though i specifically said "let the lock do the stars, he is in discord wit...
Are you me?, The rogue who disregarded that then said back to me, "well tell me when then" after he used two stars, second one was used asap
waxen frigate
Are you me?, The rogue who disregarded that then said back to me, "well tell me ...
lmao
"i told you don't, bitch"
uneven mason
They strategize andvwoek on them, it's the coordination and knowing what to do in each instance and pull
strong forum
Hide TGP strats for now and when the tourney begins people just adapt to them <:...
well the TGP keys will likely not be on the actual event
waxen frigate
yeah i don't really see the point you're making
waxen frigate
well the TGP keys will likely not be on the actual event
yeah those strats are usually risky af
jagged girder
They plan their keys as raid leaders plan their mythic raids. The difference is not skill, but coordination and preparation mostly
waxen frigate
and do take a lot of tries to get right, and aren't easily replicable
waxen frigate
They plan their keys as raid leaders plan their mythic raids. The difference is ...
those are skills
mechanical skill is absolutely necessary as well
if you press your buttons wrong eventually you just die
or you dont do enough dps to time
jagged girder
With skills I meant how well you play your class
cinder storm
Which is something most people fail to see, they see someone playing the class they like or fotm and often forget there's 4 more people playing at the same level
strong forum
^
oblique garnet
no
jagged pier
https://gyazo.com/f174c9a66434a4ba1b878f6ee99001fe
thats literally me everytime
or im not at pc
and when i get back
its filled
strong forum
😂 👉
jagged pier
oblique garnet
wanna come keys
chrome falcon
this man messaged me when last boss mechagon was 16% and by the time it was dead
"nvm"
jagged pier
i would rather do keys with nome than pugs tbh
chrome falcon
5 tank 21 upper
minor helm
Wanna come na do keys
oblique garnet
He doesnt banner for the team
chrome falcon
just fleshcraft the flame wreathe smile
oblique garnet
Nome is griefing
minor helm
jagged pier
He doesnt banner for the team <:sadge:820202363359854633>
who would
oblique garnet
I do
strong forum
and for emergency have your friendly neighbourhood mandatory prot paladin
chrome falcon
or do you have just 2 of the tanks without wreathe
go afk away from the boss during it
strong forum
is there space around the boss
you can space out
waxen frigate
this man messaged me when last boss mechagon was 16% and by the time it was dead
dps faster
nerd
waxen frigate
gigachad
chrome falcon
flame wreathe explosion does like a billion damage right
chrome falcon
i wonder if you can just live with SW SR FC
waxen frigate
(does bubble have cap?)
lusty tiger
So what’s the meta for 5tank comps then
oblique garnet
nah
strong forum
on 20 fort it does 500k
oblique garnet
you wont bring more than 1 bdk
strong forum
^
coral marsh
anyone have a weakaura that displays itemlevel of healer so i can leave asap?
strong forum
ideal comp is unironically 1x bdk, 2x pwar, 1x pally and VDH/bear in high target count keys, or a 3rd pwar
nah
venth ppal sucks in keys
you lose like 4k overall just to get a small bit of boss dam
urban portal
not if you pull 20
lament shell
I might be wrong but necro is the play for holy
strong forum
we're talking prot pally
jagged girder
Should I be able to extend banner on dummy for 2m?
strong forum
Should I be able to extend banner on dummy for 2m?
yes
oblique garnet
Not 2min buff duration tho
strong forum
keep it up for over 2min, not stack up 2min duration
strong forum
if youre good you can keep up banner infinitely even on dummies that dont attack you back
jagged girder
I don't get what you mean
chrome falcon
i think we have overcomplicated the issue here
yes, you should be able to keep banner up for 2 mins on a dummy
jagged girder
Yeah, that was my question xD
strong forum
well a person once misunderstood it
chrome falcon
strong forum
and thought he should stack up banner to 2min actual buff display
and not just keep up the buff
jagged girder
Lmao
strong forum
longest we've seen was 1min actual buff stacked up
chrome falcon
i think chimmi got it up to like 1:40 by the end of iron docks so it's doable
nah chimmi posted an SS of at least 1:30 a few days ago
waxen frigate
just got declined from a +2
strong forum
lmao
jagged girder
I've just got what you meant before xd
waxen frigate
what the fuck do they want from me
chrome falcon
it's very doable in docks tbh
strong forum
last boss is literally anti banner
?
you get like 10sec of forced downtime every minute or so
minimum
longer if the key is higher and you cant tank cannon barrage
chrome falcon
huhhhh
sure but that's counterbalanced by having 3 dudes to execute
one of which has like double standard boss hp
strong forum
idk how youd manage that there, so much bullshit running around
and hiding
mobs not being close to you
chrome falcon
i haven't hid from a single cannon barrage this season
up to 22
you have SW up for all of them
^
this happens way too often
for my sanity to remain intact
strong forum
not to mention
you cant charge when both minibosses are dead
or even if the first one is dead
chrome falcon
for what? for like 10 extra seconds of uptime on the boss multiplied by 3+ cannon barrages
strong forum
literally cant charge weave
chrome falcon
or are you using SW for something else
strong forum
you need to hold leap for barrage, so you cant do leap charge, and the bosses perma follow you
how could you ever charge weave there, or am i missing smth?
he finishes his cast
at all times
he doesnt randomly stop
chrome falcon
no ofc you can't charge weave i wouldn't say that you can
all you can do is IV a ranged and then back in
but there's still no reason not to just tank barrage and go hit the boss
it doesn't kill you so
strong forum
sure but still i dont see how that would allow you to stack up such a big banner
you need to charge weave for it
70% haste isnt enough
chrome falcon
yeah i mean
i'm not gonna pretend i got the 1:45 banner
you'd have to ask chimmi
oblique garnet
it doesn't kill you so
Maybe not but it for sure will bait my team because i play with apes
strong forum
lofty widget
but havent struggled with uptime on last boss regardless
dreamy wedge
Everyone knows defensives exist to let you ignore mechanics and pump harder
strong forum
its not about struggling
but about questioning the fact of overstacking infinite banner
3rd boss ye, if he lives exceedingly long, thats alot of free charging
overstacking banner requires infinite charge usage and execute
oblique garnet
Everyone knows defensives exist to let you ignore mechanics and pump harder
Sure but i also know that if i do that i have 2 mongo melees following me thinking they can live and that just ends up making the key harder
Ive yet to be so close where i would need to greed my globals to time a key
strong forum
Sure but i also know that if i do that i have 2 mongo melees following me thinki...
ive had a BDK pretend he could make it
dreamy wedge
The only time it feels excessive imo is if you’re going way over past its cooldown, cause you do still want to cast it for Kevin and to buff the group
chrome falcon
and have the last 20% all to yourself
lofty widget
speaking of execute, cursed overall?
dreamy wedge
Sure but i also know that if i do that i have 2 mongo melees following me thinki...
I mean yeah but that’s also not your fault or problem, they should know better lol
lofty widget
workshop
chrome falcon
ah makes sense
oblique garnet
Wild phial
lofty widget
was giga gaming 2nd boss hitting it behind the box
chrome falcon
sick homer damage
hazy dragon
What you guys think of Unbreakable will as a lego?
strong forum
for DF, has niche uses, but SL, no
pwar requires reprisal, and in raid unbreakable will is pretty weak
strong forum
sick homer damage
ya it makes me very sad, but the rest of homer is very 
hazy dragon
for dps sure but as a tank isnt the main goal to keep every one alive? xD
chrome falcon
definitely the call for keys where you're confident and you take crit for dam
lofty widget
you should keep yourself alive first and foremost
strong forum
^
chrome falcon
for dps sure but as a tank isnt the main goal to keep every one alive? xD
i think you're thinking of healer
hazy dragon
@chrome falcon well when you put it like that youre absolutely right my health bar is their problem
chrome falcon
no your health bar is definitely your problem
everyone elses' health bar is the healers problem
strong forum
but in keys tanks actually take dmg and cant tank swap, so youre required to play reprisal
no way around it
chrome falcon
i really wanna see how hard we can destroy a 15 with seismic kyrian and take crit from broker
strong forum
well i had a kyrian seismic gamer in a pug 5 tank key
i almost doubled his dmg cuz he was very poorly informed
(and it was workshop)
chrome falcon
yeah no definitely not the play in workshop
which has like
4 pulls with more than 2 mobs
strong forum
try to tell him that
he didnt believe me that necro is better for keys or raid even for dmg
sick sentinel
whoever said to use alt + win + S to make instant screen caps you are a genious and i love you and i will never forget this
chrome falcon
i tried telling that to the other tank in an SOD normal pug
when i almost tripled his damage
but alas
sick sentinel
alot more simpler
strong forum
i bought a sylv HC boost cuz i CBA'd pugging, and i beat both their tanks 
chrome falcon
sylvanas having no execute phase is still the greatest crime blizz has ever committed
sick sentinel
chrome falcon
heavily impacting class balance on the last encounter of the instance
for lore reasons
oblique garnet
Sylvanas being motes is the greatest crime ever committed
chrome falcon
btw!
sick sentinel
on track to get a 291 something for magey
oblique garnet
The fight will lag so much
oblique garnet
Honestly if it werent for ows and shield id be ok with just skipping it
chrome falcon
motes should despawn when you've killed 40 of them
sonic crag
People enjoy this game in different ways. If a Prot warrior wants to be Venthyr cause they a cool bitey boi, it's their money. If any Prot warrior does even a wowhead search they will see Necro reprisal is the way to go
chrome falcon
why put literally 30 mobs on my screen that do nothing
toxic pewter
Oh it’s not just me with sylvanas bad framerate!?!
chrome falcon
sure jorag but it's not "i play this because i like it more"
it's "i play this because i think it's stronger even though you have clearly proven otherwise"
strong forum
motes fucks framerate
sick sentinel
People enjoy this game in different ways. If a Prot warrior wants to be Venthyr ...
thats until they learn it sucks big dicks
sick sentinel
and then they go OKAY, what am i SUPPOSED to do
strong forum
simultaneously
sonic crag
Oh well yeah. That's just wrong.
sick sentinel
look up the correct specs
sonic crag
But I've learned to educate people once. If they stick to being wrong, that's on them.
strong forum
theyre gonna find it bad and say necro is wrong
strong forum
But I've learned to educate people once. If they stick to being wrong, that's on...
yeah, im getting to that point with certain tank gearing options
sonic crag
In general in my life that's how I do it
sonic crag
Very useful at work. I stress far less about outcomes
sand egret
Does recasting Banner while an existing one is active overwrites your duration or does it behave differently?
strong forum
yes it overwrites
south zealot
prot warrior in my key
strong forum
so dont recast banner unless you know you wont drop it soon again
south zealot
using punish and is nightfae
oblique garnet
so dont recast banner unless you know you wont drop it soon again
I stg if we do 5 tank high keys and you dont recast banner im hearthing out
oblique garnet
Why not
strong forum
cuz theres no gain to be had
strong forum
400 mastery, big 5% dps gain for the tanks
👏
but running into danger of not having banner
later on
sonic crag
I trolled a 16 depot this week. I went Kyrian for DPSing a few keys. Woke up next day. Joined a pug for the key. Did y realize I hadn't swapped back to Necro
oblique garnet
How
oblique garnet
How do you run into issues with not having banner
strong forum
why would i recast banner when a boss is coming up or downtime
oblique garnet
Ofc im not gonna recast it when theres downtime coming
chrome falcon
i thought to myself earlier "yknow i should really just start recasting banner when i have easy uptime"
so i re-popped
oblique garnet
But when pack is like 50% and you have it up
chrome falcon
then stood in a grenade and instantly died
chilly brook
Nah fam you recast
strong forum
cuz often i dont omega focus on banner uptime and randomly drop it
chilly brook
Unless there’s RP or some dumb shit
oblique garnet
chilly brook
RP makes me sadge
strong forum
cobalt seal
does the buff stack?
strong forum
yes
chrome falcon
yea
strong forum
if you get 3 banners you get 1200 mastery
cobalt seal
Pog dmg
strong forum
but the buff doesnt extend
only your own banner extends ofc
and you dont run it for the mastery, its just a nice side effect
oblique garnet
You 100% should
chilly brook
Honestly you might need the intellect more than the mastery tbh
oblique garnet
Legit inting if you dont
mighty valley
if you don't rebanner for your friend's frostwyrm's fury they're not gonna invite you to their birthday party
chrome falcon
chilly brook
int is for weaklings
Bruh it’s a joke
chilly brook
I’m calling people stupid
oblique garnet
Also rebannering for big emeni value 
chilly brook
Emeni Wadu hek
strong forum
more crit
oblique garnet
Does lead by example stack
chrome falcon
should do yeah
strong forum
dont think thats worth over homer for dmg
sand drum
just joined my first key on my druid and what do I see codex on Pwar
sand drum
isnt it more woth just playing 1 trinket then 👀
oblique garnet
If 3x people use emeni how much is the str you get from it
sand drum
or do I kindly leave key
strong forum
If 3x people use emeni how much is the str you get from it
well everybody would get 6% + 15% on their own
for 20sec
which is not gonna beat homers perma 3% overall
oblique garnet
21% str
strong forum
for 20sec, every 2min
oblique garnet
Yuge executes
strong forum
so you gain 18% str during execute, but lose 3% extra dmg below 35% and 18%crit chance for10sec every minute
oblique garnet
It's about yourself
Sure if you pug
But if you seriously want to do high m+ with 5 tanks you really want to squeeze extra group dps from wherever you can
strong forum
idk
running in the risk of losing banner vs just pressing it for the sake of it
not a fan
like you only used 4 banners more in the streets we did
oblique garnet
you wont lose it
strong forum
thats what you say
strong forum
yes
oblique garnet
100%
strong forum
and thats why i dont rebanner when i still have 15sec stacked up
or LS coming back up
toxic pewter
Is bonesmith competitive these days I alwasy preferred her over plaguedeviser
strong forum
homer sims better
toxic pewter
is it harder on defensiveness
strong forum
youre less defensive playing homer
toxic pewter
Ok so still same situation hmmm
strong forum
i just play it cuz i cant utilise a 3rd potency on marileth
if i had a healer to proc the 3rd potency, marileth would be better
toxic pewter
ohhhh you generally play with 4 other tanks right
strong forum
yes
toxic pewter
Ok makes sense
oblique garnet
And no venthyr so cant even get token
open gazelle
Can you aegis and still cast abilities?
toxic pewter
dude it owns in grimrail depot
ruby locust
What in your guys opinions should the coins be used in next week? Ofc old warriors soul but what else ?
lofty widget
ows then rdm then aegis probably
oblique garnet
Shield mby
lament shell
Isnt aegis overkill?
strong forum
ows > matrix/shield > aegis
lament shell
Probably wont be played on forti
ruby locust
I’d think so
lofty widget
in most cases it is
strong forum
298 on heroic
ruby locust
I could see it being good in like high keys
strong forum
LoD shield with haste mastery is bis dinar shield
assuming you can upgrade it to mythic
oblique garnet
Isnt sylvanas shield the same
strong forum
sylv is crit vers
ruby locust
My guild runs heroic with minimal mythic prog till DF
strong forum
and slg shield is vers mastery
toxic pewter
is mythic terragrue add a lot of stuff
strong forum
nah
ruby locust
Crit isn’t a horrible stat honestly
strong forum
it isnt
lament shell
No you just go and kill it
strong forum
crit is amazing vs phys dmg
lament shell
Vers haste shield
patent osprey
Aegis > all for high keys :) if that's what u want to do
You may not always play OWS, sometimes cheat trinket just safer
for ur dinar
strong forum
same
patent osprey
same
lament shell
None got it
minor helm
same
patent osprey
but I got the fatescribe cheat trinket :)
ruby locust
Aegis > all for high keys :) if that's what u want to do
Pika big fan reason I even started playing prot sorry fast simp and now it’s done. Anywho I didn’t get ether on heroic felt bad
strong forum
killed it on lfr, normal and heroic still nothing
ruby locust
Our brew master got both
strong forum
only got shitty alars in CN
ruby locust
Made me sad
strong forum
for a meme
patent osprey
Pika big fan reason I even started playing prot sorry fast simp and now it’s do...
<3
oblique garnet
but I got the fatescribe cheat trinket :)
I got alar but its bugged still and does 0 damage when it goes off
patent osprey
fatescribe is Def better
strong forum
?
patent osprey
alar kills my teammates more often than not lol
strong forum
alars doesnt do dmg anymore
lament shell
Alar resets after death
patent osprey
oh did they change it
strong forum
and alars resets on death
lament shell
Idk if people know thst
patent osprey
cause when I used it in s2/s1 killed teammates all the time lol
oblique garnet
alars doesnt do dmg anymore
When was this change
strong forum
well it doesnt do dmg right now, dunno if intended or not
oblique garnet
Do i have to log in and double check the tooltip
strong forum
but it doesnt
jagged girder
Is there a way to remove downtimes in keys? (trying to know my cpm's but streets downtime is huge)
lament shell
Does fateboi trinket reset on death?
strong forum
no
patent osprey
so if it's fixed it's worse
strong forum
only if you stack ontop of your party members
lament shell
Sunking W
strong forum
alars radius is only 3yd
patent osprey
only if you stack ontop of your party members
it's m+ ur always close
ruby locust
Didn’t it get a fix in s4’s release ?
waxen orbit
Seems decent for a 22 Lower
strong forum
3yd is literally stacking ontop of your member
lament shell
Seems decent for a 22 Lower
W
strong forum
literally inside of it
patent osprey
also if ur cheating less than every 8 min, u probably shouldn't be in that key so alar reset doesn't have much value
oblique garnet
Seems decent for a 22 Lower
Is your healer afk
strong forum
i mean you can just force it
lament shell
Idk puragtory procs all the time
strong forum
quickly die somewhere to reset alar
big value gain
people did that all the time with LR and purg in legion
and even with LR in S1 SL
cuz it did that for a while until they changed it
oblique garnet
Idk puragtory procs all the time
Yeah but dk is also yoyoing all the time
strong forum
most of my SWs are just for infiltrators so they dont heal
if i dont have reflect up
sick sentinel
so, i did the key and we timed it, and so, its literal i just talk to the dude at start and choose my stat and the our group goes and kills shit and when we kill the vampire like guys, the guy from start comes and puts them in cage and i automatically get the buff my choosing? what if i die, say, or other things i should know about it
lament shell
Ye but they need to nerf the affix idk
sick sentinel
found about the purple sleep orb hard way
lament shell
Did you know that veng dh
oblique garnet
I like it
south zealot
sleep should break on damage imo
waxen orbit
You have permanent lust halfway through key lmfao
lament shell
Lit 🔥
patent osprey
I like it but it's not interesting enough oh its own to make it super fun. It's just passive
sick sentinel
the sleep orb sucks
waxen orbit
This affix slaps
strong forum
vdh passive DR isnt that much higher than pwar
hazy dragon
main prot stats for an idiot please
south zealot
and the affix spell should be blockable
strong forum
pwar during avatar has same magic mit as vdh
south zealot
main prot stats for an idiot please
strength >> haste >> doesnt really matter
waxen orbit
and the affix spell should be blockable
You can reflect everything wdym
oblique garnet
I like it but it's not interesting enough oh its own to make it super fun. It's ...
Yeah but its definitely better than other shit we have had in SL imo
chrome falcon
i may have some new spell reflect tech
south zealot
You can reflect everything wdym
yes but for the ones you dont have reflect up
chrome falcon
just need to check something
strong forum
the sleep puddles are obnoxious
south zealot
or the ones where theres multiple affixes
lament shell
Yes you can reflect vampiric claw but sometimes you got 2 or casters in a pack
strong forum
if they remove the sleep, or make them ACTUAL SLEEP AND NOT STUN, or remove the puddle if 1 person soaks it, the affix is infinitely better
oblique garnet
Prideful was garbage
chrome falcon
OK GAMERS
patent osprey
sometimes u have 3 vampire dudes :) depending on pull
chrome falcon
it's possible that we already knew this
but i have big juicy SR tech
for upper kara
patent osprey
chess? last boss
strong forum
very likely its known
waxen orbit
Poison Fang reflect
strong forum
juicy chess 500k reflect
lament shell
Ye need to train my friends to focus demons
chrome falcon
ok yeah
strong forum
always focus demons
chrome falcon
i figured we probably knew about it already
strong forum
always
strong forum
yeah
sick sentinel
if they remove the sleep, or make them ACTUAL SLEEP AND NOT STUN, or remove the ...
it could be worse, he could have just done INSTANT random targeted sleeps on random players
sick sentinel
ahhh the healers asleep for 27 seconds now
lusty tiger
Please explain
strong forum
if the shield is down as he does his swing
chrome falcon
so
south zealot
or not stunned rather
patent osprey
but that chess 500k tech
gotta live mana wurm somehow to become OP though
chrome falcon
yeah
patent osprey
unluck
chrome falcon
basically
sick sentinel
thats what dreadlord does in wc3
south zealot
ohhh so you have to go in right as he gets stunned
chrome falcon
5%
sick sentinel
its a targeted sleep
chrome falcon
yeah
south zealot
ahhh i see thats meta
south zealot
i tried getting into a 25 upper earlier and they wanted a blood
chrome falcon
i had the same experience but they wanted a ppala
mild sail
How do u guys survive those last few trash pack on a 20 iron docks?
patent osprey
i tried getting into a 25 upper earlier and they wanted a blood
cause blood solos mana dev
south zealot
spell reflect is so so so op in that dungeon
oblique garnet
gotta live mana wurm somehow to become OP though
10 stacks was spicy but as soon as boss got to 20% hard chilling on a 22
mild sail
cause i just get blased to fuck with everything up
south zealot
oblique garnet
Gamer
lusty tiger
Some juiced gamers over here
chrome falcon
if i can end top 100 by only pugging i'll be happy
but i'd rather end top 25 and actually have a group
south zealot
ive been playing with a gamer healer
oblique garnet
I think i only have 2x tyrannicals above 20 because i was busy farming gear
south zealot
gettin carried
strong forum
we'll start soon late dw
chrome falcon
yeah that was strat for legion
bronze mural
chrome falcon
prot has been viable for well over a year
we got some minor buffs so people tried it
hazy dragon
i was able to count to 5 this morning
chrome falcon
and realised that it owns
south zealot
ignore pain buff was sexy
hazy dragon
and realised that i had another hand to hold a shield
south zealot
and also spell reflect op
especially on upper
now we just need am to reduce last stand and we are literally invincible permanently
oblique garnet
LS on am would be too cracked
strong forum
itd be stupid
chrome falcon
we already never die
oblique garnet
Pls no
south zealot
or with tclap
oblique garnet
Not enough globals
patent osprey
we already never die
I wish I was in that same world :(
oblique garnet
I wish I was in that same world :(
ID?
undone verge
Side note, Sylvanas is a terribly designed tank fight. At least in p1
strong forum
sylv as tank is insanely boring
toxic pewter
Im pretty sure sylvanas is generally not people favorite fight
chrome falcon
you can absolutely just reduce that down to "sylvanas is a terrible designed fight"
pallid quiver
Just cut it even more to Sylvanas is a terribly
undone verge
‘Sylvanas is terrible’
strong forum
'sylv'
chrome falcon
fatescribe->KT->sylvanas
pallid quiver
And the entire feelings of most of the WoW community as of right now is accurate
undone verge
‘T’
chrome falcon
gotta be the worst 3 consecutive bosses
ever made
yknow that one scene from naked gun
with the boat
that's the last 3 bosses of SoD
just going from fuckup to fuckup
pallid quiver
kt is at least funny from an outside view, so he's got that goin' for him
could do without, like
it existing tho
strong forum
its shit
oblique garnet
Its boring
patent osprey
??? there are infinitely worse fights
undone verge
Kt>the eye
patent osprey
Almost every last boss had an just afk for every single raid
oblique garnet
Nono
chrome falcon
KT is about as bad as an easy fight can possibly be
chrome falcon
like yeah i agree pika from the perspective of actually doing the fight it's not so bad because it's easy
but in terms of its design
and how you spent like 2 mins afk per pull
it's just insanely bad
toxic pewter
I like kt
chrome falcon
and having to explain to 19 people
patent osprey
weird people consider that a bad fight when back in wotlk loot ship was beloved
strong forum
nah in SoD i gave up
chrome falcon
why they have to spend half the fight afk
patent osprey
kt is literally free loot
undone verge
Sire danathrius had some of the worst forced downtime
strong forum
i just focus on myself
chrome falcon
loot ship was beloved because it was early enough that pugs could do it
oblique garnet
weird people consider that a bad fight when back in wotlk loot ship was beloved
Loot ship wasnt atleast 2nd to last boss
toxic pewter
I won’t lie I actually like SOD this is the first time I raided it and I’ve had fun
chrome falcon
plus it was novel and unique and saurfang was there
patent osprey
I love it even more that it's free loot not everyone can get lol
chrome falcon
but it was boring as fuck no-one actually denied that
strong forum
i quit ICC after ship
patent osprey
it's like a reward for getting there
strong forum
i was tilted that the raid released in wings
chrome falcon
IDK maybe kt would have been more fun
south zealot
i wish they made long fights like sylv
south zealot
where u actually function for 90-100% of the time
patent osprey
i wish they made long fights like sylv
cap
oblique garnet
We actually oneshot fatescribe today i was surprised
strong forum
remove p2 from sylv, change her HP from starting at 55% and nuke her down to 0%
patent osprey
I love only doing like 10-15 pulls in 3 hours
chrome falcon
FOURTEEN AND A HALF MINUTE fights
urban portal
focus macro is too powerful
strong forum
wouldve been infinitely better
south zealot
shoudlve made sylv go to 0
chrome falcon
p1 was still bad because of stop dps
undone verge
remove p2 from sylv and it's actually a good fight
Was literally typing that
chrome falcon
but that's not hard to fix
south zealot
i will say, progging on long fights it toxic
undone verge
p1 was still bad because of stop dps
Just gigachad double arrows
south zealot
but i like long fights overall tho
chrome falcon
idk man blizz learned during WoD on mannoroth
that if the HC fight has a shitty boring phase
you can just
south zealot
only one per tier tho ofc
oblique garnet
It was worse
patent osprey
Hellfire citadel had bis fights other than the first boss imo
patent osprey
I miss that place
chrome falcon
hellfire citadel owned
there was literally nothing to do that patch but raidlog
it was amazing
undone verge
Hellfire assault can fuck off, but the rest of that place is so good
oblique garnet
Going to ulduar for the first time as a kid has to be one of my favorite wow moments
chrome falcon
i'm gonna nostalgia so hard my eyes roll back into my skull during ulduar classic
uneven mason
That initial span with the vehicles was great
chrome falcon
south zealot
saw my dad playing in dragon soul so i srarted leveling
but i was too scared to raid bc i thought lfr was hard
uneven mason
but i was too scared to raid bc i thought lfr was hard
It had mechanics in cataclysm
undone verge
Lfr is harder than normal
drifting socket
Hello, how do I find block % on details
I can see shield block uptime but that doesn't take into consideration out of combat and kiting and such
oblique garnet
saw my dad playing in dragon soul so i srarted leveling
Man this makes me feel like a boomer