protection

[chrome falcon]

but

[undone verge]

Never pug high keys on a Tuesday

[chrome falcon]

my karas are 17/18 and 18/18

[undone verge]

Rule of thumb

Tuesday players are at least 50% worse then Sunday players

[plucky pecan]

is the tricket from id with ver better then tog?

[lofty widget]

nah

[chrome falcon]

probably not

main stat > vers

[lofty widget]

no mainstat

[strong forum]

Hell no

[chrome falcon]

haste also > vers

[plucky pecan]

yeah

that's what ive been doing

[strong forum]

The trinket from id is ass

[plucky pecan]

i see alot of warrior building vers

[chrome falcon]

they're bad

[plucky pecan]

geming ver that wrong right

oik

okay*

[chrome falcon]

listen

the only source for pwarr things

that you ever listen to

is this channel

no-one else seems to know wtf they're doing

[plucky pecan]

lol

[undone verge]

Why take that trinket when I can get 1500 verse from sigil and pad my execute dmg

[chrome falcon]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[strong forum]

And get mainstat

[lofty widget]

could sigil actually be good in m+ if you pull around it?

for dam ofc

[strong forum]

Uuuh

Not for tanks

[undone verge]

Then I can call the dps bad when I’m second on dps for heroic nerzul

[chrome falcon]

yeah idk if sigil can ever be good for us

[strong forum]

5min CD is too long for tanks in m+

[chrome falcon]

i bet it could be good for bear

but not for us

[strong forum]

Bear uses cache

[undone verge]

Eh still would be weird for best

[strong forum]

And gavel

[undone verge]

Bear

[chrome falcon]

gavel+sigil+incarn

pull half the instance

[undone verge]

@mortal brook bear gavel

[chrome falcon]

[strong forum]

Too many CDs at once

Can't sync

[chrome falcon]

yeah

3 4 5

[strong forum]

Cuz gavel puts trinket on CD

[undone verge]

That’s so dumb

[chrome falcon]

wait really

i didn't know that

[warm condor]

theres no way it does that

[strong forum]

Thats literally normal

???

[undone verge]

Yeah but it’s dumb

[plucky pecan]

Best conduits for nerco?

[lofty widget]

every on use shares an icd

[undone verge]

Just cause it’s normal by blizzs standards doesn’t make it good

[chrome falcon]

https://gyazo.com/de0f21822968b795fe85cb9b0f38dc90

[warm condor]

if thats the case im big sad

[chrome falcon]

you can swap inspiring presence for safeguard

either is good

[strong forum]

Every item with n on-use effect puts other items on CD for 30sec

[warm condor]

because that would mean i never used my trinket

[lofty widget]

it's 20 now im psure

[strong forum]

Well 20

[undone verge]

Yeah I believe it’s 20

[strong forum]

Same outcome

[chrome falcon]

yeah 20 because that was what let font work

tbf with gavel

you can pop it

and just leave ghost alive

until your trink comes up

right?

[undone verge]

Font was Court of stars right?

[warm condor]

what pull are you say infront of for 20s

????

[strong forum]

Well it'll despawn

[plucky pecan]

what is gravel?

[chrome falcon]

jailer wep

[warm condor]

jailer weap

[chrome falcon]

well, gavel is jailer wep

[chrome falcon]

nah font was the azshara trinket

gave you giga main stat for 30 seconds

so you could use that + another on-use trinket

for huge 10 second burst

[plucky pecan]

Ow soul best one right?

[sick sentinel]

gravel is what you put in your driveway

[chrome falcon]

yes

OWS+RDM best generic

OWS+aegis if you're doing giga content

[plucky pecan]

rdm?

[chrome falcon]

reactive defensve matrix

[plucky pecan]

ok

[alpine shard]

no it doesnt

[plucky pecan]

Any Marcos you guys use?

[raw void]

Polo

[plucky pecan]

That are a must.

[lofty widget]

a charge/intervene macro

[ocean yoke]

a mouseover intervene one is about it, not really mandatory one

[lofty widget]

and maybe one for avatar+racial if youre like troll or orc

[chrome falcon]

none that are technically a "must" but something for charge/intervene is very useful

[plucky pecan]

Can you link the macro please?

[lofty widget]

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help] intervene; charge

this is what i use

[chrome falcon]

/tar randommeleedps
/cast intervene
/targetlasttarget

i use this one just as a super simple no-brain macro that i spam if i just want the block/revenge

having both is ideal

one for when you actually need to IV someone specific

the other one as a mini SB

[topaz field]

what do u achieve with the targetlasttarget?

[lofty widget]

so it doesnt stay on the melee dps

[chrome falcon]

... it targets my last target?

^

without that i would just keep targeting randommeleedps

[lofty widget]

cant ss your dps sadly

[chrome falcon]

and try to shield slam them

[lofty widget]

however stupid they might be

[chrome falcon]

i'd take 45 rage over the average hunter player

[lofty widget]

yup

that reminds me how stupid the infiltrators are

you keep them targeted after they die

[chrome falcon]

yeah

[plucky pecan]

Thanks those are great. That's pretty much all you guys use?

[lofty widget]

far as macros goes yea

[chrome falcon]

i also have a macro that pops avatar, LS, and banner

[topaz field]

i also use at cursor for ravagar

[sick sentinel]

could u guys play on this u think?

[chrome falcon]

that i use for pulls where i have everything up

oh yeah

good point

ravager @ cursor or @ player is nice

saves a click

preference though

[plucky pecan]

Can you link that.

[chrome falcon]

/cast [@cursor] Ravager

[lusty tiger]

/tar randommeleedps

Actually works?!!!!!!!!

[sick sentinel]

that monitor looks crazy

[chrome falcon]

or [@player]

if you want to cast it on yourself every time

but i advice cursor

no jerreee that was just an example

[topaz field]

#showtooltip /cast [@cursor] Ravager

[lusty tiger]

Oh ok lol

[topaz field]

or [@player]

[plucky pecan]

last ava and banner

[chrome falcon]

oh

well

cmon now i don't need to link you that lmao

you can do that one yourself

[plucky pecan]

lol

[topaz field]

u just do /cast xyz

and u can repeat that as often as u want

[lofty widget]

/cast Last Stand
/cast Avatar
/cast Conqueror's Banner

[warm condor]

is ls with banner the default play?

[urban portal]

yeah

[topaz field]

well they dont line up always but ye u want to use them together if possible

[lofty widget]

they should tbh if you play properly

[chrome falcon]

^

banner should always be up when LS comes up

[lofty widget]

LS is just "add more time to banner"

[topaz field]

is it worth to hold LS if im about to enter execute soon?

i always wondered

[chrome falcon]

on a boss yeah

[lofty widget]

i do that

[plucky pecan]

#showtooltip /cast [@cursor] Ravagar

This does not work for me.

[chrome falcon]

ravagEr

[topaz field]

haha 😄

my spelling sorry

for the lazy ppl u can also shift click i think

from spellbook

[warm condor]

how much uptime am i supposed to have on banner?

[urban portal]

100%

[lofty widget]

+80%, ideally 100

[warm condor]

pls dont say 100%

ok im trash

[urban portal]

you work towards it

[lofty widget]

100 is a lot easier than you think

[cinder nova]

Ravager

[lofty widget]

once you get the hang of it

[urban portal]

start with not dropping banner on a pull

that should be the very basic

if you drop banner mid pull then you need to go back to a dummy

then you can figure out how to chain pull

[warm condor]

i can chain it for a couple of pulls

but i drop it with like 30s left on cd

[chrome falcon]

that's a fine start

just start practicing

or better yet

[topaz field]

thats just practice tbh

[lusty tiger]

We are wearing the same shoes brother

[chrome falcon]

post a log

i'm looking for someone struggling with banner to post a log so i can do a youtube video on how to analyse logs and compare them

[warm condor]

with banner being up all the time do allies also keep the buff for that long?

[chrome falcon]

no

[undone verge]

sadly still 15 seconds

[oblique garnet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NaCLBPRDbgGqMyKt#fight=13&type=damage-done This is fine

[lusty tiger]

1 SW?????

[chrome falcon]

you don't need to press it

on that fight

ever really

[oblique garnet]

i wasnt tanking

i was just dpsing

[lusty tiger]

Oh haha

[chrome falcon]

i mean 3 mins is 2 combos right

[lusty tiger]

I was needing to

[oblique garnet]

honestly no idea

i wasnt paying attention

Its just speedrun hc clear fast so we can go to mythic

[lusty tiger]

Ohhh I thought mythic

[oblique garnet]

No ows tho

[lusty tiger]

[plucky pecan]

So i have Ravager Marco spell as shift-c but this macro not working.

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor, talent:7/3] Ravager

[lusty tiger]

32 mythic guardian pulls no kill so I had a lot of time to figure out how to basically immune oblit

[lusty tiger]

If I had your cpm I could get SW for each combo, but by the 3rd I was out of juice still had about 30 sec left on SW

[undone verge]

I mean at this point shield wall is a minute 30 cd at most

target dummy I can hit almost sub 1 minute

[lusty tiger]

Yea once I figured I could charge while tanking him when he casts beam I could SW the first 2 in a row

But I sorta can sorta can’t intervene the first like 35 sec of the fight

I could only imagine how hard I could juice parses if I already knew these fights and if we didn’t have dps trials in our mythic prog

I keep dropping banner because of looking out for other mechanics so so much to learn still

[toxic pewter]

is there an explanation of how aegis works, sorry if asked before, but does it block magic stuff originating from 'in front of your character' as well?

Ive been using it and it really feels like im almost invulnerable for 8 seconds every 1.5 min

[mighty valley]

It's any kind of damage at all, reduced by the number on the tooltip

It doesn't stop blocking damage after the offensive part triggers

[toxic pewter]

can it be non targeted abilities too? as long as the mob is in front of me?

like aoe i mean

[urban portal]

yeah effecitvely

[lusty tiger]

Guy got a 304 aegis and posted a details of 600k blocked on one use

[urban portal]

its very strong

[toxic pewter]

damn its actually stronger than i thought

[ocean yoke]

aoe, dots all of em

[topaz field]

everything ye

[urban portal]

its abusrd with dots

[mighty valley]

I think ground effects etc technically originate from caster

[toxic pewter]

dots too?

i got a 291 aegis with leech on it and its my new favorite toy

[lusty tiger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/294637400834048002/1008552029876146296/Screenshot_74.png

[toxic pewter]

i just used it in grimrail i stood in fire LOL

[urban portal]

yes

lets say if a dot does 9k

and aegis blocks 8k

you are literally taking 1k dps

its insane

[toxic pewter]

its basically negated almost

[mighty valley]

yeah it's huge against dots, it was v good against sylvanas mythic back in s2

[toxic pewter]

yea

wow

[topaz field]

its extremly powerful on tank with good mitigation

[urban portal]

on monk it double dips into stagger

[toxic pewter]

dang

[topaz field]

ye on monk its next lvl broken

[toxic pewter]

its actually legit in grimrail

[topaz field]

u are god himself for that time

[lusty tiger]

We summon our monk apologist now

[toxic pewter]

its an ultimate 'oh shit' button in grimrail

if you are bad positioned

[topaz field]

but tbh matrix should be better this tier

because its got the better numbers

in terms of scaling

[ocean yoke]

fantastic for sylv if you havent done it there yet

[toxic pewter]

would it be weird to run both

if pushing hard content

[topaz field]

i guess for prot it is because of ows

[toxic pewter]

or is ows just too good

[topaz field]

but im bad at maths and spelling

[toxic pewter]

aegis and rdm is that weird

[urban portal]

matrix has always been higher HPS than aegis

unless its some cracked MDI run

[toxic pewter]

but aegis is a solid oh shit button

[urban portal]

but aegis is invincibility

yes

on demand

[toxic pewter]

can save a wipe tbh

the 1.5 min cd makes it even stronger

it could of easily been a 2 min cd

[topaz field]

it definitely is a no brainer and even works on necrotic i think

[lusty tiger]

Now this is a reason to get 100 stacks

[toxic pewter]

holy shit.. didnt even consider that O_O

[lusty tiger]

Hehe step aside blood dks

[naive mauve]

Necrolord only in high keys worth or in every level?

[topaz field]

every level

its better numerically

for both offense and defense

[naive mauve]

Then I'm still playing it wrong. I get almost no uptime. Always only ~35%.

The packs dies too fast. On the way to the next pack does the buff runs out 😂

[tepid nest]

Are the mechagon rings good for us?

[toxic pewter]

maybe chain pull more if you can

[toxic pewter]

the combo that gives haste is bis

[topaz field]

general mistakes are overcapping on rage (u have to pump rage into ip if you are about to overcap) and/or using outburst procs on tc too often (you generate way less rage this way) and/or not using reprisal on cd

[plucky pecan]

Crackling thunder a must?

for M+

[wild hemlock]

please tell me theres iron docks nerfs tomorrow

[mighty valley]

if packs are dying THAT fast that you can't build up a decent duration in LS, you should probably do bigger keys

[lusty tiger]

One of the rings is crit > haste, the other haste > mast?

[toxic pewter]

you prob want: logic loop of recursion and overclocking bit band

[lofty widget]

Its a preference between crackling and bounding

[lusty tiger]

💯

[misty vale]

how the fuck are people surviving medivh this week btw?

im getting smacked

asf

[undone verge]

ok so prot is literally insane if you actually play it the correct way lol

18 gambit and it didnt even tickle

[chrome falcon]

hell yeah

[undone verge]

nobody pay attention to into the fray

[minor helm]

[undone verge]

I forgot to swap from raid talents

[chrome falcon]

uptime stonks

60% avatar

[undone verge]

60% avatar busted

[lofty widget]

Good shit man

[undone verge]

tyty

[mortal brook]

Pregavel

Spirit lasts a while

[undone verge]

now if only I had ravager...

[orchid garden]

It’s not even tyrannical

[chrome falcon]

^

kick missiles if it's going to hurt

[neat trout]

im new to prot and about ready to start doing keys, what should i be focusing on to get uptime like this?

[chrome falcon]

reflect the last tick

chain pull

use ravager/demo shout on cooldown

don't overcap

press shield slam every time it procs

use reprisal properly

[strong forum]

You gotta be really aggressive and abuse reprisal

[chrome falcon]

spend outburst on shield slam

[strong forum]

Playing slow and steady won't do you any favours

[dawn canyon]

First of all

Go to a dummy

Get your Banner over 2 minutes

[neat trout]

can any gear do it or is it easier with better gear / more shield slam procs / etc.

[dawn canyon]

Haste helps

@chrome falcon do the honors and drop the link

[chrome falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG8aMkCE5j0&

[sand drum]

no ? :C

[neat trout]

assuming haste is also chosen for the bounty

[dawn canyon]

It is

[queen hemlock]

trying my best to replicate that walk out charge, i cant do it mang

[chrome falcon]

i mean

[dawn canyon]

Dont press S

[queen hemlock]

your vid made me realise it exist

[chrome falcon]

it's harder on mobs

[dawn canyon]

Strafe it

[chrome falcon]

because they can move

generally it's much easier to do it on mobs that cast

[pallid quiver]

It helps to do so when the mobs are Thunder Clapped

And the above

[chrome falcon]

but there are so many mobs that cast this season

every single mob in grimrail or iron docks has some kind of cast

[plucky pecan]

I just watched you banner video thanks!

[chrome falcon]

dreadlords have 2 casts

[queen hemlock]

will try more

also wanted to ask

[neat trout]

does stride vs crackling thunder matter

[lofty widget]

no

its preference

[queen hemlock]

is workshop's active bracers worth?

[chrome falcon]

i've been finding stride even better recently

[plucky pecan]

Do you have the link to that weak aura you talk about?

[chrome falcon]

because it's harder to reprisal bosses this season than last season

which weakaura

[plucky pecan]

the best for last stand and banner over your health.

[chrome falcon]

oh nah i just made those myself in like 5 seconds

i can link them to you but honestly i'd advise watching a super basic progress bar weakaura tutorial

[queen hemlock]

this gud?

[dawn canyon]

Presets do this nicely

[chrome falcon]

^

[lofty widget]

not for dmg

[dawn canyon]

No stats = probably bad

[chrome falcon]

learn to do them yourself

[lofty widget]

just CC them, crit haste will do you lots better

[chrome falcon]

it's not complicated to make a super basic one

[queen hemlock]

even the parry and avoid isnt worth?

[chrome falcon]

they're useful for very specific sitautions

that you're probably not experiencing

[dawn canyon]

Tanks and avoidance isnt really a thing for most keys

[queen hemlock]

but almost x2 parry chances

when active of course

[chrome falcon]

what do you need parry for

[queen hemlock]

from 15% 30%

[chrome falcon]

you have block

[queen hemlock]

freeee vengenceeee

[chrome falcon]

revenge! has an ICD

[lofty widget]

revenge! is 3ppm

[queen hemlock]

oh wtf?

[lofty widget]

so extra parry wont do anything

[chrome falcon]

like wow you might save 20 rage

[lofty widget]

for that

[chrome falcon]

woo

[queen hemlock]

thought for 8 seconds of gcd in a 5 pack pull will get vengence for free

didnt know revenge had internal cooldown

bummer

[strong forum]

They changed that with SL

It was on every parry in bfa

In SL its down to 3ppm

[lusty tiger]

Well our tier would t work otherwise

Because blizz is not consistent

[strong forum]

Yea

[queen hemlock]

so you saying we got nerfed

shafted

REVENGE

[strong forum]

No, currently it's better that it's not free

Free revenges are actually bad

[queen hemlock]

for banner?

[strong forum]

For everything

We generate so much rage that we can't dump it fast enough

Free revenges hurt that process

[dawn canyon]

[queen hemlock]

wouldnt we just spam IP like an idiot to burn off rage or even then its not enough

[neat trout]

even if you just dump it on IP?

[chrome falcon]

IP spends 35

[strong forum]

We already spam IP like a motherfucker

[chrome falcon]

revenge spends 20

the option is nice

[strong forum]

To the point of the IP CD not being short enough

[chrome falcon]

^

this is very much the case during LS+ravager

[strong forum]

1sec CD is often times too long

With how much rage we generate with LS and outbursts

[queen hemlock]

oh yea btw matta really thanks to that vid, i never knew i had to proc last stand and spam IP during conq banner

[neat trout]

coming into this spec i wouldnt have imagined SL turned it into this APM lol

[queen hemlock]

suddenly my dps can compete with DH in keys lul

[chrome falcon]

[strong forum]

We were always insanely fast

Ever since reprisal rework

Even prior to reprisal we were among the fastest specs in the game

[dawn canyon]

Vidya OP

[undone verge]

Wrist problems here we come

[queen hemlock]

i use 12 extra keys mouse

[strong forum]

Friend actually got better with his hands

Playing pwar

[queen hemlock]

my main 2 keys are on SB and IP

[strong forum]

Cuz he's using his hands in ways he hadnt before, so he gets actual beneficial exercise

[queen hemlock]

just rub the two keys while pressing vengence SS and clap

[undone verge]

Honestly it’s more fingers that get me

[strong forum]

I'm fine

Benefit of actually working a job that uses your hands and arms

[queen hemlock]

i recommend 12 extra side buttons on mouse my dude

coursiar schemitar and or g600? logitech?

i had logitech at first but fucking hell its a fat mouse, wne to buy a corsair one instead

[oblique garnet]

theres no way i would bind any of the big rotation buttons on mouse

Thats legit the fastest way to brick your mouse under a year

[chrome falcon]

i have SB on mouse and that's it

for main rotational stuff

[lofty widget]

only thing i got on mouse is my banner

[queen hemlock]

my entire mouse

[oblique garnet]

only have LS, Demoshout, leap and wall on mouse

[dawn canyon]

i have hamstring and rend on mouse

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/997086666961457203/chatting.gif

[south zealot]

i have nothing on my mouse

i have 32 buttons iirc

1-6 qertyfghzcv and some control and shift modifiers

[neat trout]

i put most of my buttons on mouse and have never caused any damage for years

[oblique garnet]

with the amount of spamming current prot warrior has i dont think my mouse could handle it

[chrome falcon]

my current naga has survived since like 8.1 but

it probably doesn't have much left in the tank

[oblique garnet]

ive gone through 3 nagas in 3 years

[chrome falcon]

yep that sounds about right

[oblique garnet]

ayo same

well 12 side buttons

[south zealot]

have u guys seen the chinese prot warriors

in bfa

[chrome falcon]

i use almost all my side buttons

[south zealot]

they like switch between action bars mid gcd

[oblique garnet]

yeah shift + mousescroll lets you do that iirc

thats fine

Asian apm is built different

[sweet summit]

i only know the big ppal guy gg

[south zealot]

yeah noobadin

my buddy tells me about his routes all the time

hes starting clicking less

the details in the middle of screen

yeah hes a gamer for sure

everyone in youtube comments shits on him tho

:/

if they do theyre casual gamers

[undone verge]

Gonna start clicking now

[south zealot]

who think doing 25s+ are easy weekly 15s

[chrome falcon]

a good player could outdps the majority of youtuber comments by clicking easily

[south zealot]

https://youtu.be/wAr--0VftJE

[south zealot]

this is gaming

ye its nice

i need a big shield block timer

mine is a little small

[undone verge]

Need a shield block tracker that covers my entire screen

Gotta make it so that when shield block drops wow uninstalls itself

[south zealot]

usually i know when shield block drops bc i immediately die

[lusty tiger]

Just a wa that alt+f4 if shield block runs out

[undone verge]

Basically

[south zealot]

weakaura thst factory resets pc when shield block runs out

[lusty tiger]

Calls the FBI on your house if sb drops

[coral marsh]

can you go instantly to the top of moroes after defeating the first boss in lower kara?

[undone verge]

Yes

[south zealot]

if you shroud yesh

yeah

[coral marsh]

why shroud?

[south zealot]

oh wait

[undone verge]

I just die and go around

[south zealot]

i thought u meant to the ushers

[coral marsh]

and how do you clear from there

[undone verge]

Clear moroes room, go to huntsman clear to maiden

Less back tracking

[south zealot]

u guys do moroes 2nd?

[undone verge]

Yeah

[south zealot]

i usually do attumen sexond

second

[undone verge]

I think it depends on tyran/fort

I like to hero moroes on tyran

Fort I hero huntsman

Although higher keys idk

[south zealot]

i do attumen 2nd and hero moroes

third

[undone verge]

Highest I’ve done on lower is a 16

Usually the bleed isn’t too bad on fort

[south zealot]

lmao

do u get lust on maiden too?

lust all 4?

[undone verge]

It’s prob possible

I feel like to lust all 4 you’d need to engage first boss like immediately

[south zealot]

i hate lower so much

[urban portal]

@oblique garnet can i get a name change

ive been accused of impersonation

which isnt wrong

[oblique garnet]

To ?

[urban portal]

"Raid Decanter BIS"

[south zealot]

wait u can ask for name changes

[urban portal]

so i dont have to type that every day

[south zealot]

D:

[oblique garnet]

$rename @urban portal Raid Decanter BIS

[true pawn]

Done.

[chilly brook]

Raid decanter is BiS tbh

[urban portal]

SHEESH

[chilly brook]

I love garrosh screaming in my ear

[undone verge]

What about this, shroud to first boss, backtrack the trash before first boss to start, then go to moroes and hero should be up, then shroud through ballroom, clear rooms in maiden till hero, backtrack a bit to attune and hero should be up.

[chrome falcon]

decanter? i hardly know her!

[south zealot]

my two lowers pog

[chrome falcon]

[undone verge]

Garrosh bdsm is my favorite

[south zealot]

could be a thing on tyran

[minor helm]

Way less obscure skyhold lore with this name

[south zealot]

on fortified i think lusting horse isnt that much value

you can shroud into invis pot

[undone verge]

Maybe, could Invis to stairs

[south zealot]

tru

those damn forks

theres no way to avoid the armor shre dright

shred*

which one do uhave

[undone verge]

Wait do EU and NA have different Oprah rotations

[south zealot]

the forks do so much damage

yes they do

[undone verge]

Weird

What was ur first week

[south zealot]

honestly they might

its hard to tell

[undone verge]

We had westfall story week one

What’s this week?

fuck

[south zealot]

wikket ez

easyyyy

[chrome falcon]

wikket is terrible

it's literally 50/50

if the boss delays her cast

it's free

if she doesn't

[undone verge]

Westfall story was kinda ass

[chrome falcon]

you only have 4 tornados

[south zealot]

oh so u can just lose?

[undone verge]

Adds stepping the same person and one’s hitting them

[south zealot]

mmmmm sounds like fun!!

[chrome falcon]

lower kara is the worst dungeon ever

[south zealot]

have u tried killing the adds

[chrome falcon]

i think it's actually worst than seat

it's pretty close between those 2

[toxic pewter]

yeah i really dislike lower

[south zealot]

seat?

sethralis?

[chrome falcon]

no

seat of the tri

[south zealot]

oh

[chrome falcon]

last dungeon in legion

they're really close in terms of being absolutely unplayable

but i think kara wins

[south zealot]

i didnt play end of legion so i never got to experience it

lower is so toxic honestly

[toxic pewter]

are people skipping first packs of iron docks these days

[south zealot]

its basically designed for you to have arcane torrent

[south zealot]

yes and no

its so much easier on the tank to do that trash

and skip as many wranglers

but the dps can get fucked

[toxic pewter]

I heard skip to dreadlord mini boss is good

[south zealot]

ive seen both work out

same

[toxic pewter]

Ok

so which packs do you end up skipping

[south zealot]

is it viable to bring this pack into stars too

[chrome falcon]

it's hard but the real gamers do it

[oblique garnet]

yes

[chrome falcon]

you kinda want a rogue/hunter to MD it on to you

[toxic pewter]

Ok thx that make sense

[oblique garnet]

you can bring entire gauntlet to stars

[south zealot]

this one?

[toxic pewter]

i have been just CCing one wrangler but skipping it does make sense

[oblique garnet]

you can yeah

[south zealot]

i need to find a good hunter or rogue to bring that in

[oblique garnet]

i just kill it for buff

[south zealot]

too much work for me to do it

[oblique garnet]

Hunter can get you the gauntlet for stars

[toxic pewter]

does the ironstar have a limit to how many mobs it can kill

[south zealot]

and im bad kek

[oblique garnet]

And it saves more time than anything you can do in a key

[south zealot]

15 iirc

[toxic pewter]

Ok I figured

[hazy edge]

15 yeah

[south zealot]

my friend was doing a 23

and someone missed the star hitting the back pat

lmao

[toxic pewter]

rip

[south zealot]

they tried they were going all the way down

they didnt have enough

[toxic pewter]

yah the ironstars make so much dang %

[south zealot]

it was so sad to watch lmao

[oblique garnet]

this is first star

[toxic pewter]

warlock messed up for my group and we didnt recover

[oblique garnet]

you can get back

[south zealot]

skipping too much is kind of difficult

[toxic pewter]

how do you get back tho

do you talk to some guy or wat

[oblique garnet]

2nd star

[toxic pewter]

ya i skip those

[oblique garnet]

and this is last one if you have gamer hunter

[toxic pewter]

whoa

[south zealot]

bruh

i need a hunter who can do that

[toxic pewter]

i never even considered that pull O_O

[chrome falcon]

how tf do you do that late

[south zealot]

even just getting half of that in

is sick

[oblique garnet]

hunter sends in pet

[chrome falcon]

tag all the packs with turtle then feign?

ah

[oblique garnet]

you can skip the last pack too

[toxic pewter]

that is an amazing achievement if done properly

[oblique garnet]

so you can just take the golem and walk from left

I mean technically you can run in and pull it yourself too

yeah

[toxic pewter]

interesting

[south zealot]

id and lower

[oblique garnet]

my tyrannical score is sad because i was farming gear and not pushing

[toxic pewter]

u play prot pally right

cool

[lusty tiger]

If I had to heal one more healer I was gonna delete my pally at the beginning of s3

[toxic pewter]

that 3* junkyard nice

[south zealot]

junkyard is soooo free

but when u die

[toxic pewter]

ya

[south zealot]

its so scuffed

[toxic pewter]

feelsbadman

[south zealot]

we rolled our ++23 junkyard into a 25 ID

lmfao

[oblique garnet]

[south zealot]

lmfao

good luck

[oblique garnet]

ez

[lusty tiger]

Lower to a 2 and start over

[sick sentinel]

yo

we have one left

uh

i kinda want 27 id or the rail

[oblique garnet]

WE LOVE GRIMRAIL DEPOT

[sick sentinel]

yeah its free

[toxic pewter]

ngl i love grimrail also

[sick sentinel]

im top 15 upper enjoyer still gg..

[waxen frigate]

3k week 3

zzz

3k week 2 is wokege

[oblique garnet]

Really looking forward to doing some spicy pulls in grimrail without sanguine

[sick sentinel]

the pwar i invited to my 9 rails speared them in sanguini repeatedly

idk probably 3k next week

assuming we finish this week fairly strong

What can i do, what can i say?

lower as well

but we have 27 lower in bags

[waxen frigate]

is that doable

i thought it was only done on like 25 but that was the other day

[sick sentinel]

we’ll do 27 see how it feels

then go 26 and time

[waxen frigate]

im gonna warn u

its not gonna feel good

[sick sentinel]

imma see how good i can do on my mage tonight 🙂

idk we just

[waxen frigate]

inshallah my brother

[sick sentinel]

play keys till we time

[minor helm]

Impaleww owns so hard

[sick sentinel]

have a 10 key ready and will be 8th, but if it chests, might try more

[waxen frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kedi-kedii̇nşallah-insallah-inşallah-kidii̇nshallah-gif-19174071

[sick sentinel]

if it starts at 27 no point not trying it

u play hard game and lower difficulty then it feels easy

[minor helm]

[sick sentinel]

mad about our docks today tho

can def do 26

[minor helm]

Don’t tilt

[sick sentinel]

idk we spent 2 hrs in it

figuring out route

[oblique garnet]

If you can kill witch on 27 the key should be easy

"easy"

[waxen frigate]

doing the invis lust mini?

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[waxen frigate]

shit was pretty monka on my 23

but it was pug

i watched dro's clip

[sick sentinel]

felt good for us on 26

[waxen frigate]

55k combined HPS between tank and healer

lul

[sick sentinel]

2nd pull is worse imo

yeah

rank 6

[waxen frigate]

i fell off

[south zealot]

im in top 20 prot warrior

[waxen frigate]

i was top 10 brew earlier this week

now im like

100

[south zealot]

i was in top 10 week 1 because i did like 150 keys lmfao

[sick sentinel]

i got tired of screaming so im on my mage now

not gonna happen bro

[south zealot]

2800 gamer pog

[sick sentinel]

they’re done for the week

iirc

[waxen frigate]

why tf does yours say US

mine says OCE

[sick sentinel]

3k or bust realm first

show him who boss

[waxen frigate]

take him down like kangaroo jack

crikey

[sick sentinel]

idk 3k shouldn’t be too hard

my tyran week is shit

i clearly said realm first but we lol

ill go world first 4k

WF 3k is like, wednesday midnight after first weeks reset

(na)

i think it happened yday?

[dawn canyon]

gg wanna help my mage for a docks

unsuprising

[waxen frigate]

more like

dicks

[oblique garnet]

I can in exchange for gold

[minor helm]

[sick sentinel]

i got him a dagger

aint that tos now?

[minor helm]

It’s Phil so it’s double

[dawn canyon]

huh

gold is fine

[sick sentinel]

ill sell carries

2.8k grp 250k na only!

pst!

[dawn canyon]

im huge man

[minor helm]

People who have no clue on boosting rules love just immediately breaking out tos

[sick sentinel]

nice weight

[oblique garnet]

yeah sure

[dawn canyon]

thats why i count as 3 followers

[minor helm]

[sick sentinel]

reported for advertisment dramatic noise

[minor helm]

Oh fk that’s why my Gm mailed my gold back after I lost gamba

He wants me gone

[dawn canyon]

you get yours back?

man im just down 60k

[sick sentinel]

lel

$200 for sylv mythic boys

[minor helm]

He’s got like 20 gold caps he doesn’t need my 200k

[dawn canyon]

tell him to share

[minor helm]

I love him as much

[dawn canyon]

aagy 🤤

[minor helm]

Aagy does own

[dawn canyon]

own a lot of gold

[sick sentinel]

thanks mate

yeah mage

[oblique garnet]

arcane ofc

[sick sentinel]

and then push higher on him cuz theyre meta

yeah

arcane is dope

[dawn canyon]

sellin mage ui 20k gold

[sick sentinel]

im trying for realm rank 1 so

[dawn canyon]

ive seen yours

[sick sentinel]

need to play decent spec

[dawn canyon]

you dont get to judge

[oblique garnet]

Woah you actually have a competetive realm?

[dawn canyon]

you have 4 details windows

[sick sentinel]

kinda

there’s a few pushers

its the main oce realm

[oblique garnet]

Dead realm easy rank 1

[minor helm]

[dawn canyon]

cope harder you know i never do keys with you ()

[minor helm]

Insane player?

[oblique garnet]

Oh our realm is only dead when it comes to m+

Fairly competetive raiding scene

[dawn canyon]

realm first andy

[sick sentinel]

its mainly the top 3

to try beat

[dawn canyon]

isnt that the guy who lost to echo 😹

[south zealot]

might fuck around and reroll to an omega dead realm for a cool name

[sick sentinel]

skylark pushes for 2 weeks then goes afk

[south zealot]

is it worth

[dawn canyon]

no

[south zealot]

fair point

[sick sentinel]

could also

just join him

[oblique garnet]

: )

[clever ravine]

@sick sentinel ty

[oblique garnet]

If you cant beat them join them

[clever ravine]

me being tagged in #protection is a first

[minor helm]

We had a whole moment about you

Could have happened anywhere tho

[clever ravine]

i was looking at @oblique garnet standing in Haven before i had to go Kara in classic

[sick sentinel]

im still not used to being designated luster after all this time

[clever ravine]

jut have to be on finnreaver

[sick sentinel]

didn't main lust class

bind lust into phoenix flames mate

[undone verge]

I always forget to lust on my shaman

[sick sentinel]

where is pheonix flame in arcane spells

[oblique garnet]

[sick sentinel]

cant find it

[clever ravine]

i actually took a pic just to prove it

[sick sentinel]

thats giga

i saw this guy impaleww in game

[oblique garnet]

its an OG title

[sick sentinel]

ill take ss if i see him again

[lusty tiger]

They had to add one to uldaman for… reasons

[undone verge]

Pirate dragon?

[sick sentinel]

quick question to ur pros:
the wranglers in ID are casting Throw.
Can we disable the cast by placing them with theri back at a wall so they cant disengage

or do they cast still were in melee range?

[minor helm]

You better not have that on next expansion or you’ll be in big trouble with the locals!!!!!

[oblique garnet]

[sick sentinel]

it kinda hurts and is not blockable right?

[minor helm]

[sick sentinel]

i miss iron docks…

i may dream of that dungy tonight

[undone verge]

Dragon slayer DK riding around on class mount

[sick sentinel]

yeah

seems the straegy then

just

cc them

never play 2 at once

funny mechanic

u have to kill the big guys around them anyway which have double the health

[lusty tiger]

Fear, SW, stun

[sick sentinel]

so u kill off one while cleaving the big things

pull the other

[undone verge]

Just yolo and wipe the group

Just ask your pally to bop you

[sick sentinel]

thanks 4 the quick answers

[orchid garden]

Conspiracy theories say there are Draconians who are hostile to humans. No clue how they would behave to Orcs and Trolls, but being racist to dragon is actually based.
So if there is a dragon in my group I gonna swapblaster him to death all the time.

[sick sentinel]

🙂

[sick sentinel]

👍

[grand locust]

seeing as real value in repreisal is in rage and SB time, do you guys ever intervene and charge back in? or try to space out yhour charge/intervenes to maximize revenge! usage

[undone verge]

Yes

[orchid garden]

Death to dragons.

[undone verge]

But mostly accidentally

[sick sentinel]

🤳

[undone verge]

The red dragons had it coming honestly

[sick sentinel]

dno red seems scary

maybe they’re more about fire

[grand locust]

sorry was this in asnwer to my question or other convo?

[orchid garden]

All dragons in my group are about to die. I gonna join our enemy forces because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Gonna roleplay those dragon till they leave

[sick sentinel]

legendary skinning

for raid boss,

[undone verge]

to urs

[lofty widget]

how are you all proccing rep on mana devourer without leap?

[chrome falcon]

IV to a ranged i guess

there's no clean way to do it really

[lofty widget]

kinda slaps on 24, just sitting there with no block and full charges

but no way to use them 😦

[south zealot]

yeah have to intervene

[sick sentinel]

what am i supposed to do phase 1 of grim rails tank or dps perspective

[south zealot]

first boss?

just kill them

burst after the goblin is stunne

d

[sick sentinel]

we did it on uh +8 and i didn't really get it

[south zealot]

with tank

[sick sentinel]

no, the second sorry after ur on the train

[south zealot]

get boss to 60%

then kill adds and they drop stuff

pick them up shoot cannon

[sick sentinel]

i didn't see the very obviously named and themed "targeting you bombs" that flash red, so i've seen those and i won't ever get him by them again probably

on boss 1

died to him mage

2nd boss

boomers drop shells that u use on boss

3 shells and boss comes out

grenadiers drop grenades u can save for boss or just use on adds

[uneven mason]

Wonder why only the old orcs have bombs

[sick sentinel]

and then the shrapnel blast ppl drop shrapnel u can use in cannons for boss or adds

i use the shrapnel for boss and grenades for adds

[waxen frigate]

gonna roleplay dragon deez nuts across your face

[waxen frigate]

i use grenades to kill boomers faster

ez

[sick sentinel]

save grenades for last boss

[orchid garden]

[lusty tiger]

Am I just missing ss https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CFNWY63dgtkvxZba#fight=32&type=casts&source=21

I kept dropping banner at 30 sec left on boss and I ):

[chrome falcon]

25 revenge cpm 14 SS cpm

you're missing too many ss casts

[lusty tiger]

How do I catch more ss

[chrome falcon]

press the button

and you need to TC more

on single target

[lusty tiger]

Yea how do I know when I should be tc > rev

I always feel as though it is stopping me from dumping rage (obv wrong way to go about it)

[chrome falcon]

TC> rev on ST

for banner uptime

[waxen frigate]

pause

you can do that?

[lusty tiger]

Literally on cooldown??

[chrome falcon]

well

if you can't keep banner up

clearly you need more rage...

[lusty tiger]

What about aoe then

Same exact issue

[waxen frigate]

i miss the rage

[chrome falcon]

in aoe revenge is good because of the fat pump

but idk

it's just a feeling thing

🤷‍♂️

[lusty tiger]

That’s fine

I’ve come a long way from my max cpm being ip

At like 11

[chrome falcon]

if you're slow on second boomers you might get a third wave

so grenading them is good

but you just use shrapnel to insta kill boss+adds anyway

so it doesn't matter

[sick sentinel]

dont think so

curious tho im gonna try it today

[waxen frigate]

I’m 99% sure you lose buff when boss dies

But if not… ping me lmao

[sick sentinel]

what if u dc

[waxen frigate]

Cope, boomer

[sick sentinel]

come back wen boss ded

[waxen frigate]

Now this is gaming

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-steve-buscemi-30rock-fellow-kids-one-of-us-gif-21904018

[sweet summit]

man ur like 38 wydm

[waxen frigate]

Lmao

[oblique garnet]

Thats for sure bannable exploit

If that would work

[sick sentinel]

or what if you death skip

[waxen frigate]

They can’t ban you if you throw a grenade at them

[sick sentinel]

to 2nd boss

pick uo grenades

reset boss

[delicate parrot]

Any guidance on how to tank grimrail flamethrowers

I’m getting destroyed

[oblique garnet]

Dont

[sick sentinel]

throw grenades at all the trash in cars

[oblique garnet]

Once the cast is done you sidestep

[waxen frigate]

Don’t stand in front of it

ITS CALLED THE CUPID SHUFFLE

[sick sentinel]

stun it 👍

[strong forum]

eyo

new codex bullshit just dropped

Codex only procs off of attacks coded as auto attacks
that means in high magic dmg situations, like medivh or sylvanas, its borderline impossible to get ANY procs of codex making it even worse of a trinket.

[oblique garnet]

🙂

[strong forum]

die codex die

[sweet summit]

love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex love codex

[strong forum]

on a mythic sylv kill on a BDK, codex did a total of 15k dmg

nice stat stick idiot

[cobalt seal]

but EHP

[strong forum]

you mean HP

[cobalt seal]

no EHP

[waxen frigate]

Lmao

Just remove it

Please

Blizz

[strong forum]

also crit is more valuable than vers defensively for bdks

i love the current timeline

[south zealot]

tattman still uses codex

lol

[waxen frigate]

How was this found/when did it change