I've been trying to main warrior tank since I started raiding. Multiple times bad co tanks have forced me into the dps role because "threat issues"
#protection
vernal vale
carmine pine
also who can i talk to about fixing old logs
carmine pine
none of my warriors logs from wod are linked to my warrior for some reason
vague crag
Bulwark of Azzinoth
hmm, putting those on the list
carmine pine
they are linked to my vdh for some reason
vernal vale
WoD challenge mode shield
dawn canyon
they are linked to my vdh for some reason
Sus
carmine pine
thats what im saying
vernal vale
none of my warriors logs from wod are linked to my warrior for some reason
I had to combine characters from a few realm transferes
vague crag
ease of maining arms is that I can just grab a shield and switch to prot if needed, or bored
carmine pine
ive tried to email warcraft logs about it and it never got resolved
waxen orbit
I love getting sat on by someone with 100 more keys this season despite them never timing a 27 because they frequent r/wow and think prot warr is bad
Fuckin tryhards
vernal vale
Lol
patent osprey
prot warrior is bad 
vernal vale
People are awful
patent osprey
please buff
patent osprey
minor helm
Pi 
ka
vernal vale
My sorry ass pushed 3k prot warrior can't be bad. Lol
carmine pine
Gambit + necrotic 
waxen orbit
Necrotic is still an affix?
vernal vale
Granted half my keys where as dps because prot is bad according to people
carmine pine
I just want to do big murloc pulls and not be sad
low kindle
jagged pier
Necrotic is still an affix?
never was
lofty widget
minor helm
lofty widget
we're taking 0 dmg in that pull anyway just blast away
minor helm
lofty widget
wat
minor helm
Is this ur m+ team or something sitting you?
carmine pine
I'll admit I'm shit at m+ and even worse in necrotic weeks
waxen orbit
Some random pug lmfao
minor helm
Oh lol rip
waxen orbit
Imagine being a surv hunter and not just installing free 3700
Hard progging 25s and 26s
God
Someone fucking nuke r/wow for creating smoothbrains like these
strong forum
please buff
growls chat already spammed "pwar OP" pls dont
waxen orbit
What did he say?
carmine pine
Lol plka is just built diff
cinder storm
Same people who take someone with 15 20s time because it's meta vs someone who has 100+ 20s timed as non meta
waxen orbit
Like I have three 27 forts timed on bolstering week
One being a 27 fort bolstered halls as prot warrior
minor helm
What did he say?
waxen orbit
But yeah I mean sure I need more necrotic keys timed for your fucking faceroll 26
DPS are single-celled organisms
cinder storm
DPS to me: please pull there so shadows don't hit us waaaa
Like bruh, I'm trying not to die and keeping things in check and you can't even kite your own shadows
waxen orbit
I mean actually you should pull to accommodate spiteful
And move a little bit
So melee can continue doing DPS while not getting insta-tapped by spawns
alpine shard
https://m.twitch.tv/clip/HedonisticBelovedRavenPeteZaroll-47M96U7k10lmXzI7
gromnak has the smoothest brain of them all
minor helm
cinder storm
Yeah, but not in SD
minor helm
gromnak has the smoothest brain of them all
Yeah but even a broke clocks right twice a day
dawn canyon
Push week goated clip
carmine pine
Grom is just so fucking hilarious I dont get it
dawn canyon
Absolute bars
grave crane
https://m.twitch.tv/clip/HedonisticBelovedRavenPeteZaroll-47M96U7k10lmXzI7
Get pushed out of the guild lmao
minor helm
ITS PUSH WEEEK
grave crane
What ya pushing bud
cinder storm
Every week is a push week
waxen orbit
Based
sick sentinel
i dunno if legion ones are just as easy, but i went and finished the mechagnomes and kul'tiran playable races today
ember sinew
i gotta finish mechagnomes, wanna make a mecha alli prot war
sick sentinel
i think i would make a mechagnome DK
im confused by what the clones do on mechagnome, comments suggest it drops your threat by 50% found better comments
potent anvil
It's like mirror images. Clones will be above you in threat. You can out threat them though.
Still pretty clutch if you need to drop threat.
sick sentinel
sounds best for a dps or healer, someone says arms be a good target for it, cuz you have no fade effect
potent anvil
Yeah, can be useful
Mechagnome racials are just bis QoL
Auto heal, primary stat buff, can craft anywhere
drifting fable
Combat analysis
sick sentinel
good target for crafting toonssince thats a big theme, of DF
you are cooking fire blacksmithing anvil, etc
warm plinth
Hi deswind cutie. Me looking for more Deswind fury key videos:
distant crystal
mechagnome clones can like eat mechanics for you right
like press right before tankbuster
oblique garnet
@lusty grotto hes back
toxic pewter
mechagnome clones can like eat mechanics for you right
Yes for sure
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352> hes back
who
oh if you mean ghash, i know 😉
question is, should i resub this tuesday or this weekend
cause i know last season starts tuesday? but im so far behind...
is there anything i could do during the weekend to catch up a bit on gear or should i just wait till tuesday and do it? remember i unsub at s1's end
i probably have to do so many quests and whatever
sweet summit
should do main questline to gain access to unity and flying asap
onyx vessel
lusty grotto
so... weekend resub hmm
lusty grotto
best case scenario, i unsub cause i cba to do all the stuff to catch up
then resub for DF
onyx vessel
knotty mantle
dumb question but does anyone else experience wrist pain playing prot war? I seem to not have solid keybinds for IP/Shield block. What do you guys bind them to?
shut summit
1 block
2 ip
3 ss
4 revenge
mighty valley
I have SB on 3 and IP on A
hardy ridge
Forming an all warrior M+ group right now btw
still forming?
sick sentinel
I have SB on 3 and IP on A
whats your movement then
frigid spire
do y'all think prot warrior will be in a good spot for Dragonflight
urban portal
No
odd tree
do y'all think prot warrior will be in a good spot for Dragonflight
We don't even have a talent tree, so maybe
mortal brook
Recommend having an active talent system to be in a good spot
mighty valley
whats your movement then
ESDF
sick sentinel
i've used alot of strange movement systems but still don't understand that one
maybe laptop or something for small keyboards
sick sentinel
im not sold yet
mighty valley
A lot of people don’t obviously but it’s just not that weird
bold nimbus
4 and 3 respectively
Mb 4 is sb , e for revenge and 3 ip ( and now is on mw up down ) 
oblique garnet
Wasd makes you lose a lot of real estate
if you have ever played any fps games you cant switch from wasd
urban portal
Cuz of shift/ctrl access?
oblique garnet
and because how used to it you get
My left hand just automatically goes to wasd whenever i use keyboard
pallid quiver
Same
i also use a dumbo mmo mouse with 12 buttons on the side though so i dont worry about the lack of key economy in the slightest
lusty grotto
esdf is not as uncommon as you think
i dont use it cause i worry the muscle memory from game to game will be affected but i remember considering during WoD/Legion
also member of the no-mmo mouse gang
actually now that i think about it, i remember seeing a few keybind videos as far back as wrath
that mentioned ESDF i mean
ebon wren
how do you guys deal with necrotic stacks and not letting it kill your banner when you jump and run
scenic mural
shockwave. step away. charge back in
onyx vessel
Many people unbind s key in wow
lusty grotto
i did that a long long time ago
lusty grotto
can just strafe back
onyx vessel
Pull more shit dps' fault for not blasting hard enough
bold nimbus
lusty grotto
facts
sick sentinel
is about how many mobs u can pull before mobs out blaster ur dps, or rather, u, and ur healer
a mix of all 3 really
waxen orbit
@strong forum Good shit
onyx vessel
hazy edge
Get rekt Nomeratur 
ionic fern
shut summit
ionic fern
Lucky for me tho..Reprisal is already on feet and i don't have the rep to buy the Unity Legendary so it remains on waist.
📈
onyx vessel
Slacker @ionic fern
urban portal
Dang me and mwahi is the same
potent anvil
Feel like if you play all specs of warr, you're kinda stuck with unity being on neck? Deathmaker cloak, signet wrists, enduring blow belt, reprisal boots. Assuming you'll eventually get a higher ilvl helm for tier/stats. 
Also assuming you'll be using mechagon rings
potent anvil
I guess gloves if you shift tier to helm? I dunno what's better to have at a higher ilvl neck vs gloves.
potent anvil
291 Chad unity helm vs 311 tier helm
potent anvil
I'm talking about s4 gear and recrafting unity
Since legendary ilvl is staying at 291
But you can have 300+ ilvl pieces
onyx vessel
Mechagon ring farming again 
potent anvil
Only viable options are neck and gloves for unity, but I dunno what has more value between the two. Neck has a lot of secondaries if you can get a fated neck.
potent anvil
Because blizz
strong forum
"We’re making a series of balance changes to trinkets & special weapons obtainable from all 3 Shadowlands raids, and some from Shadowlands dungeons. While we won’t go over the specific changes here (the patch notes will have you covered soon)"
Watch them nerf sod trinkets into the floor
novel agate
That and nerfing DoS trinkets something tells me.
urban portal
Wouldn’t be surprised if they gut all dos trinkets
novel agate
That’s what I’m expecting.
And then just saying “oh no the iQD is broken and has no affect now at all”
hazy edge
"We’re making a series of balance changes to trinkets & special weapons obtainab...
Gavel nerf 🙏
strong forum
That and nerfing DoS trinkets something tells me.
You won't be able to obtain IQD in s4 from m+ anyway?
potent anvil
Probably in reference to this. In case IQD remains bis at 278 for some specs. I dunno.
queen hemlock
Hi em
Im a rather shity new prot warrior player and always have issues in 10+ HoA
What exactly am i suppose to do around the first few packs
Always die to the bears and almost all shards of hal pulls
strong forum
Shards and bears are mitigated by block tho, so you're making mistakes on your own end there
queen hemlock
At least i think im dying to the bears im not sure
strong forum
Generally it's advised to not pull more than 2 casters as pwar
mortal brook
press buttons better, dont overpull what your group cant handle, leap when bleed stacks too high. post logs, can give more direct feedback.
strong forum
It's the casters free-casting which fucks us up
queen hemlock
press buttons better, dont overpull what your group cant handle, leap when bleed...
I do try to keep ignore pain and shield block up but
This week necrotic so i keep jumping away at around 15-22 stacks
Or is that already too high
forest meadow
Thesteve and his spicy wowhead comments
onyx vessel
Reroll monk and laugh at nercotic
strong forum
15-22 stacks should not be where you feel like you should jump out
Usually around 30-40++ stacks is when you should feel the need to jump out
queen hemlock
Wait really
strong forum
Yes
queen hemlock
I heard 33 you cant heal anymore
hazy edge
I’ve gone to 70+ stacks before, recommended, no. Doable yes. Is usually jump out around 40 though just to be safe
strong forum
It's at 50
queen hemlock
Oh
strong forum
Where you receive 0 healing
strong forum
15 is only 30% reduction
queen hemlock
Mm ok
mortal brook
2% per stack
mortal brook
Reroll monk and laugh at nercotic
okay but consider
queen hemlock
Sorry i just returned from bfa's first raid
mortal brook
welcome back. necro is also a bleed now instead of nature dam, so phys things like blessing of protection wipe it
mortal brook
:sadbaer
queen hemlock
Ah ok cool
Mb i never really hit higher contents as back in bfa i got hard carried by friends
forest meadow
He's been bearing in skyhold
queen hemlock
Ah ok
strong forum
Probably in reference to this. In case IQD remains bis at 278 for some specs. I ...
Okay that's great, destroy scale phial and iqd! 
mortal brook
kyrian phial is also a necrotic clear
forest meadow
Reroll monk and laugh at nercotic
Necrotic always messes me up as monk, cause I wanna kite late, and stagger RIPs me 
queen hemlock
Originally played to fury all the way but no one wants me on 10+ as fury for some reason
Even heroic sep people only want 265 at least
Trying to get the gear now
mortal brook
new season next week, everyones starting fresh
ionic fern
new season next week, everyones starting fresh
Yes, it's the best.
All the baddies together.
mortal brook
bless
forest meadow
It's a great time
ionic fern
So i started on a bad time?
No, as a DPS you are just competing with 500 other people who probably have better gear/ io.
mortal brook
still fine yeah. gear up a bit for the next season
ionic fern
And that's what the decisions are made on.
mortal brook
late season can be heavy expectations on a tank, and dps pool is large
forest meadow
Next week is a "fresh" start, so it's good
queen hemlock
Ah ok
So should i just farm some below 10 keys for the bis now and keep for next season or
Still try to push
Bis to upgrade
ionic fern
late season can be heavy expectations on a tank, and dps pool is large
Can't wait to start S4, log in on the first day, go to do previous expansion dungeons and then get yelled at people "WTF TANK DONT KNOW ROUTE?!?!?"
onyx vessel
Tell them its ok ill use s1 routes
mortal brook
Can't wait to start S4, log in on the first day, go to do previous expansion dun...
? did you not CM wod dungeons and know all the snap positions?
onyx vessel
What wod dungeons are in the rotation?
mortal brook
grimrail, docks
mortal brook
Can't wait to start S4, log in on the first day, go to do previous expansion dun...
bro i remember like day 1 open beta some hunter nerdraged at me about a bad route when he backpedalled into a plaguefall tendy and died
mortal brook
sanguine grimrail will be kinda sketch but cuz of the trash mechanics youll be pulling packs back anyways
onyx vessel
Rogues are gonna be so required again
onyx vessel
So many easily pullable trash in these dungeons
mortal brook
Classic->TBC->WOTLK->Legion
you missed the best expansion bro
mortal brook
yeah wod
ionic fern
yeah wod
I heard WoD was so goooood that people came off of that expansion with a ton of gold.
ionic fern
To learn them
Hahahahahhahahahaha
No
I will go in
And i will pull w/e.
People will suffer
onyx vessel
Goes into the 20 grimrail 1st time
ionic fern
Isn't WoD like 90% melee damage anyways.
onyx vessel
Lets go bois
ionic fern
onyx vessel
mortal brook
grimrail has a lot of party damage
mortal brook
same with docks, but yeah mostly phys to tank
blazing condor
forest meadow
Sounds like a healer mechanic
ionic fern
Since i'm not a SUPPORT tank like the pink guys i can't help my party with heals.
I'm good
WoD new favourite dungeons confirmed.
mortal brook
also two entire glorious months of Glad Stance
forest meadow
@dratnos tell us what route keeps the hunters from flaming us
ionic fern
Have his routes actually..gotten any better?
mortal brook
ashran good content, all the raids were solid, outdoor content and coliseum were solid, enjoyed wod
they're still the standard anycomp basic good till its not routes
which is fine
ionic fern
I guess that's the audience they are going for with it.
Going any deeper will bring a ton of variations depending on comps/skills etc.
mortal brook
not everyone's route is for everyone
ionic fern
I dig that.
forest meadow
not everyone's route is for everyone
I saw you posted that in HoW! Does anyone actually pull like that!?!?
mortal brook
i separate portalmaster so i can squeeze in the incarn
forest meadow
That looks like megadeath, unless maybe you have mass dispel
mortal brook
but incarn all 3 pulls yeah
and 3x urh
ima miss urh
and run sleeper so that stray stuns and disorients cannot
forest meadow
but incarn all 3 pulls yeah
mortal brook
its a good bear route
you will live
will your party? who knows
route not for everyone
forest meadow
That pull looks hard, what buttons do I have to press to survive that?
Thrash
forest meadow
Looks like Ardenweald
I hope there are more of these. It may not be mechanically difficult, but god is it fun.
ionic fern
I love how we're messing with Druids for only pressing Thrash while we are here having 17 CPM on IP.
mortal brook
you're not wrong
ionic fern
I honestly can't remember..but did they nerf the Mechagon head boss dudes robot?
mortal brook
TJS has some big trash
forest meadow
Someone posted a CPM picture of all specs, or maybe just tanks I don't remember. But venthyr bear was really high. I was like, um CPM =/= difficulty. Macro ironfur to thrash and you will still do better than most bears.
Press one button
mortal brook
pls do not
#1 bear problem, didnt save rage for when incarn ends, splats
macro makes it worse
forest meadow
Yeah I'm just kidding (kinda)
forest meadow
More please
mortal brook
reaping was fun after they fixed the caster mobs
mortal brook
Someone posted a CPM picture of all specs, or maybe just tanks I don't remember....
yes
forest meadow
SL my first xpac doing real endgame content, so these dungeons are gonna be new to me. Time to study
mortal brook
m+ gonna be juice cpm cuz haste shrouded stacks
forest meadow
With ilvl, too. BDK gonna find the GCD cap
Bear too during incarn, but tier keeps hasting still so who cares
onyx vessel
So we got kara,mechagon,taz,grimrail,docks what else?
forest meadow
That's it
mortal brook
Bear too during incarn, but tier keeps hasting still so who cares
already well past gcd cap. which is functionally fine cuz so much dam is hasted bleeds
mortal brook
Tazzy, Kara, Mechagon, Docks, Grimrail
onyx vessel
I thought some of sl dungeons were still m+
forest meadow
Nope, only taz
mortal brook
the other 8 slands dungeons are not
onyx vessel
Only 8
mortal brook
so last week to get portals
forest meadow
Correct
That's fine though, cause 6 are new. So 1) fresh "content" and 2) lots of things to learn
mortal brook
gotta pull more anyways cuz infiltrators arent giving trash% so no awakened is less important
mortal brook
yeah that
onyx vessel
Pulling 2-3 awakened on boss was fun
mortal brook
shock bots with haste% shrouded stacks will be neat
mortal brook
a good bear pull
onyx vessel
The 2 new ones to being m+ are gonna be spicy 1st week
Most likely 1 shotty bosses and trash rippin you a new asshole
Oof last boss of docks
toxic pewter
Rip shadowlands never returning to these dungeons or zones
onyx vessel
jagged pier
back in my day it was a 10 man raid
mortal brook
and hunters fought with offtanks for bows, yep
onyx vessel
So 5 chads 5 mongos raid
mortal brook
let's get you back to bed, old man
jagged pier
no u had the 10 good ppl in your main team
and the 10 bad ppl
then 5 had to pug or alts had to join
mortal brook
but neither mattered cuz fights had 2 mechanics
jagged pier
back then they couldnt
ppl couldnt even dispell in vanilla
or decurse sorry it was more curses in raids
onyx vessel
Ppl couldnt do alot of things in vanilla
Shitty pcs afking for 5 sunders
Inefficient gamers was vanilla not now where everyone is giga efficient and guides everywhere
blazing condor
10 mans were mega comfy
dont think its better though
hc progressing on 10 man was kinda fun though
onyx vessel
No1 wants to run 10man hc anymore
jagged pier
well they only really fixed it in mists
jagged pier
no old 10 man hc was basically mythic 10 man
onyx vessel
Play good or get benched
jagged pier
but in wotlk it dropped lower gear
onyx vessel
jagged pier
so the 25 man teams came in and crushed the content
blazing condor
i did hc in MoP on 10 man
jagged pier
in cata
they didnt even tune the raids for 10 man
so u needed the same amount of intupurts etc as a 25 man team
stuff like that
then in mists
its was okay
forest meadow
I haven't been raiding. I need to pug raids for dinars, hope I can find some ezpz heroic 10player pugs
jagged pier
well u might want to wait for patch notes anyway
they said they are gunna tune trinkets
onyx vessel
jagged pier
could kill them all
forest meadow
10 raid is so much more chill than 30 guild heroic
blazing condor
i liked it
onyx vessel
Kill the last tiers trinkets
blazing condor
also meant if someone was sick you most likely had someone on the bench
forest meadow
Well people are still using S2 tank trinkets now, so they need tuned tbh
jagged pier
well yes and no, as u can get all trinkets at max lvl it doesnt really matter
in S4
but they said they were going to tune stuff
so we just have to wait and see
forest meadow
I'm okay with raid trinkets being better in M+ than M+ trinkets. But I don't like that they're miles ahead to where even 30 ilvl lower they're still better. Cause I don't enjoy raid, but you're bigdick nerfed in M+ if you don't when they're that much stronger.
ionic fern
I will be the devils advocate here and say it:
Trinkets are not THAT big of a deal.
Especially for 99% of the playerbase.
mortal brook
the only thing better for s4 than s2 ows/aegis is s4 ows/aegis
forest meadow
Aegis
ionic fern
It's definitely a VERY GOOD trinket.
But it's not something you HAVE to have to do keys.
blazing condor
trinkets for most people are either:
- Dps trinket - does it really matter if at the end of the day you do 200 less dps
- Defensive trinkets that you don't actually really need for the content youre doing, learn to play instead
mortal brook
correct. within margin for error of success to not have them
jagged pier
what key lvls do u do @forest meadow ?
forest meadow
I hit 3.2k a couple months ago and started playing alts so my guildies could catch up (but they never did )
But seeing people use aegis and it's nearly melee immunity for 8 seconds every 1.5 minutes looked to strong. I never got one
jagged pier
but at 3.2k io theres no need to use that trinket
mortal brook
s2 without dom sockets classic example
forest meadow
Yeah S2 I had no shards and no raid trinkets. Feltbadman
mortal brook
sure, within margin for error of success at most levels. darned if they wouldnt be a net positive tho
forest meadow
but at 3.2k io theres no need to use that trinket
Yeah I agree. But that doesn't mean they aren't tuned way higher than M+ trinkets
ionic fern
Sure.
Not arguing they are not good - they definitely are. I'm arguing the "Buy you're bigdick nerfed in m+ if you don't" part of your sentence.
forest meadow
Okay maybe over exaggerating, yeah
mortal brook
3rd boss of sanctum also very puggable, and lfr finishes dinar quest
zealous willow
Wtf is this shit with 291 leges and normal items will be higher , why blizard are dumb
jagged pier
because he cant inflate his ilvl with legos
strong forum
It combats the "paying hundreds of thousands of gold just for a mandatory item" but it does feel ass to use a 20ilvl lower item
zealous willow
They could make them a bit higher its strange to have lege lowe item lvl
strong forum
Feels ass 
onyx vessel
strong forum
ionic fern
jagged pier
new player mentality i guess need to be higher ilvl
ionic fern
jagged pier
back in day we had ppl use preivous expansion teir sets cause they were busted
my druid healer in NH used BRF 2set for some fights
👍
zealous willow
Watch then kill the trinkets too with the nerfa
jagged pier
mighty valley
s4 is gonna be silly season, peak performance is not gonna matter
no hall of fame, no CE
just have fun
vestal moat
Anyone thinking Gavel might be getting a nerf given what the post said.
mighty valley
or log off til DF, whichever
forest meadow
Peak performance never always matters. Do you think people would still play competitively if there were no achievements in the game?
mighty valley
do it if you want but like, there's not gonna be a RWF
who are you competing against
just chill with your squad and blast
zealous willow
They can change the meta, at least and could easy add some conduit levels and lege levels to be upgraded with soul ash and cincders , no need to make new crafting bases( for fun).
forest meadow
99.999% of the player base is not competing against RWF
mighty valley
they act like they are
forest meadow
Idk. I'm still going to try to push into to higher/harder content that I did last season
mighty valley
raids are going to be much, much easier, i'm 90% sure
jagged pier
anecdotal
well yes
doesnt mean they will be
we dont actually know until we see it
mortal brook
boss health/K is pure linear, so nathria w/ double leggo, expanded soulbinds, tier and Fated amps should be very chill. then sod a lil harder cuz no dom set, sepulcher will prob want more dedication to fated timing/gaming
mighty valley
the lack of HOF and achievements basically says they aren't trying to make this a competitive season
mortal brook
unless there's just awful timings on the fated affixes its big ass net positive
jagged pier
boss health/K is pure linear, so nathria w/ double leggo, expanded soulbinds, ti...
well depends if they buff the old raids hp and stuff
mortal brook
right, appears to scale just with ilvl in mind
jagged pier
i mean guilds that cleared SotF in the past month are still gunna struggle to clear in a week
mortal brook
if some fated mechanic shows up on top of the ranged stack within the melee realm of denathrius p3 that might be sketch but yknow
lfr gets fated difficulty, so it should
frozen cedar
So, if I get the quest and fish for a old warriors soul. Does the quest just know what difficulty I've killed bosses at?
And just reward me accordingly?
Oh, okay. So then I just do heroic or mythic to upgrade accordingly?
Right on. Thanks! Guild only made it 1/2 way through all tiers on mythic so I'll just have to settle for heroic :)
strong forum
If you kill 20 mythic bosses total you can upgrade 1 item to mythic level
You don't have to clear the raid to upgrade items
vague crag
is protection warrior actually that much worse for 50-60 than arms, it's at least way more survivable
ionic fern
is protection warrior actually that much worse for 50-60 than arms, it's at leas...
Are you talking about leveling?
vague crag
yes
ionic fern
If yes then prot is a snooze mode.
Just pull everything
You can pretty much never die.
And you deal enough damage. 🤷
vague crag
gotcha
warm plinth
Hi Mwahi, hope you're well my friend
ionic fern
Hi Mwahi, hope you're well my friend
Hello Ghash, doing fine - swamped with work. 😦
How are you?
warm plinth
I'm good. Looking forward to the weekend, one more day for me But I got a 3 day weekend so 
Got home from work and decided to traumatize a pug in a 16 halls with my incarn-is-the-only-thing-that-matters pulls on my bear
ionic fern
Got home from work and decided to traumatize a pug in a 16 halls with my incarn-...
Sounds like you had fun.
👀
warm plinth
They all left without saying anything afterward. No idea why.
Only did 14.4k DPS though; there's one incarn that isn't well-optimized that I need to work on, and I screwed up one of my pulls later in the dungeon and incarned too early so I wouldn't die. Was fun other than that though
dawn canyon
7k more
median tulip
Can you get a drop and upgrade that?
dawn canyon
I think so
median tulip
Can you get a drop from LFR and upgrade that?
lofty widget
Can you get a drop from LFR and upgrade that?
you can
median tulip
you can
That is interesting. I guess I'm going to be running as many different difficulties of The Nine as I can
onyx vessel
Thats 5k more than you're average tank.
9k more tbh
Most tanks do like 5-10k overall
I do like 7-10k
warm plinth
Thats 5k more than you're average tank.
I gotta get as good as TheSteve. He posted a details earlier where he did 22.5k overall in a streets 😭
onyx vessel
50% banner uptime
warm plinth
onyx vessel
With 3 shitter dps
Doing like a 15 with pumpers you do like 7k overall
Just pullin shits already dead
warm plinth
Hell if I know, I don't even play prot right now. I play fury. You guys are just more fun to hang out with.
onyx vessel
Yeah fury chat is 
warm plinth
I watch Sense and pretend
onyx vessel
Sense
warm plinth
Also, I loaded up his 28 DOS vid today and literally first thing he says "I fucking hate Reprisal"
onyx vessel
Can you blame him
warm plinth
Nope. It's why I haven't gotten back into prot
onyx vessel
Reprisal is ass to use
warm plinth
It looks utterly unfun
But I like watching him anyway because he's always super chill
onyx vessel
Probably the reason why im top 4k in world with 2.6k io as pwarr
warm plinth
😂
onyx vessel
Cuz of reprisal
Legit most unfun designed legendary but so strong
Buff the others
warm plinth
C&S major? 😂
onyx vessel
Still awake since 730am
onyx vessel
C&S major? 😂
Id nut if they did
warm plinth
I don't think it'd be the same without unstoppable force though so they'd have to make thunder clap good again too somehow
anyway, gn friends
onyx vessel
Gn
blazing condor
Deez futs
forest meadow
Reprisal is ass to use
I love reprisal, but I could see why it would suck in very high keys when you don't want all the unnecessary movement and you need your movement more for min/max plays rather than for the reprisal effects. It's super fun for me to zoom zoom all over.
onyx vessel
Its strong af just annoying to use and dps complain when you move mobs
dawn canyon
Yeah fury chat is <:deadge:900279927138578432>
I'll take that as a compliment to my work there
onyx vessel
I'll take that as a compliment to my work there <:peepo:938582175522107442>
Well done sir
forest meadow
I just hate all the emoji restrictions. Like the mods are all old people or something.
forest meadow
☝️
dawn canyon
Exclusive members eh what does that make us then? <:weird:718676218500874320>
Yall also have 3 guys im happy to never see in dps channels
forest meadow
I think every class discord has that person. And most channels.
Are there any great tank trinkets of the past which y'all would love to see the effect return in DF in some form?
edgy belfry
how much haste do i need in order to keep the banner up 24/7?
jagged pier
doesnt matter comes from play
haste helps
but there isnt a breakpoint
that gets u 100%
dawn canyon
10% prolly makes it hard
jagged pier
makes it hard yer not undo able
edgy belfry
ah ok, felt like i need more
ionic fern
How much do you have?
dawn canyon
What do you have
edgy belfry
24%
jagged pier
edgy belfry
time to practice then! 😄 i am new to this
edgy belfry
it 100% is a skill issue, no doubts
strong forum
Reprisal covers alot for lack of haste
So abuse the shit out of it, press alot of revenge and IP
forest meadow
is IP effected by necrotic?
blazing condor
Think so
Dont know actually though i never pressed it much when i last played on necro
dawn canyon
You press it regardless
forest meadow
well yeah, but i wanna gage how much danger I'm in lol
forest meadow
and paladin first avenger
wild hemlock
after playing a paladin those things need to be nerfed lmao
hazy edge
Except UFR
not for long 
wild hemlock
divine toll is actually insane
wild hemlock
i completely understand why they want to take uptime off SOTR LOL
dawn canyon
Sotr being full uptime is okay
forest meadow
it works in alpha. except for about 40 things. but the rest works
wild hemlock
Sotr being full uptime is okay
yeah but i get why they want to change it
because you literally sit at 12 seconds of SOTR
dawn canyon
I think pala mitigation currently works nicely
strong forum
Except UFR
That's cuz it applies from dmg done ontop of everything
🍝
AS absorb is the same
forest meadow
it's all spaghetticode though
strong forum
It is
Fucking spaghetti all the way down to the fucking backpack
Where they couldn't fix a feature because the spaghetti was tied to the fucking backpack!!
It's a bug
They didn't account for rank2
And rank2 grants the silence
strong forum
Ye
So Pre-alpha talent tree disclaimer
SS wont reset on alpha because the rank2 spell won't be implemented into the base spell in its first iteration
hazy edge
It's just a lot of grunt work they need to do to get all of the old rank 2s combined into the new base spells, and they are just going to do it slowly over the course of alpha/beta
dawn canyon
Arms or fury in DF???
strong forum
Same as people have been asking for s4 meta
And which tank will be best
Despite nobody knowing a fucking thing
sweet summit
hey guy how much vers for +15 in dragonflight?
sweet summit
strong forum
Df will have new meta stat, it'll be Dragonflight speed
It'll have a 🍝 interaction and increase all speed
Even haste
hazy edge
If you don't have 100% haste and 100% vers it's legit impossible to survive in a +5 in s4 as prot war /s
cobalt seal
sweet summit
le epic sex number XDXD
blazing condor
Not epic if its premarital
blazing condor
Epic
alpine shard
hey guy how much vers for +15 in dragonflight?
if you dont have at least 40% you cant even enter the dungeon
sweet summit
uhoh
sick sentinel
you have to pass a certified IQ test and you must score over 200 IQ to enter the raid
mortal brook
Dragonriding proving grounds silver to access The Oculus m+
high night
anyone know if titanic throw is a confirmed ability
sweet summit
nop
high night
hopefully
sweet summit
yep
sick sentinel
Dragonriding proving grounds silver to access The Oculus m+
this if there is the oculus or malygos wrath like fight
literal this
steel mist
are any of the karazhan trinkets will be good for prot ?
modern brook
Og erga pfp is back pog
sweet summit
i am old now
minor helm
sweet summit
yes
minor helm
sweet summit
game does not make brain create happy drug
dreamy rain
Same as people have been asking for s4 meta
whats the best tank in DF?
ocean yoke
evoker
sweet summit
the best tank is probably sense
blazing condor
dwayne earth elemental
sweet summit
wild hemlock
hey guys whats meta s4
his name is steve
actually
go ask sham discord
been steve for years
dawn canyon
Dk pet is timmy
dawn canyon
Rip
wild hemlock
lot of steve talk today lmaooo
wild hemlock
i play ele 🙂
sorry erga
youd get beaten with totems if you were in the shaman bar and called it dwayne
somewhere in wow theres a great inn named that i cant remember. has to do with a witch and a cat lol
dawn canyon
Ele funni
mortal brook
lot of steve talk today lmaooo
hey that is me
is a busy place since yesterday
only had to time out one person so far tho. much better than slands alpha
wild hemlock
cant wait for our damn tree
hopefulyl next week
im impressed with alpha and DF so far
for once
sweet summit
damn didn't know u used big words like that
wild hemlock
if they keep this trend moving forward they could get alot of subs back over the next few years
mortal brook
surely next week
sweet summit
surely
wild hemlock
i have issues breaking that 75+ 😦
minor helm
sweet summit
minor helm
sweet summit
strong forum
Confuse
mortal brook
mortal brook
i am violating the rules of the discord server. i am a criminal
warm plinth
i am violating the rules of the discord server. i am a criminal
Malicious compliance: Just use stickers
blazing condor
minor helm
warm plinth
His name is not Dwayne :riot:
spiral warren
Stickers cannot legally lie
sweet summit
@sick sentinel@sick sentinel@sick sentinel@sick sentinel@sick sentinel
come key
need a healer (protection paladin)
strong forum
Imagine playing with healers lol
waxen orbit
Healers are a social construct
balmy canyon
What do you guys think, should I be a lazy prot and run kyrian this week for the one or two keys I do or actually try and run necro
jagged pier
theres no need to play kyrian
vernal vale
What do you guys think, should I be a lazy prot and run kyrian this week for the...
Good play means necrotic is a nothing affix most of the time.
Only issues are mobs that teleport or leap to you which are not super common.
wild hemlock
necro fun on fort weeks cause mobs actually live
i run nf/kyr on tyran but its sooooo sad not having banner for bosses
strong forum
Necro fun on tyr cuz you get to destroy bosses
wild hemlock
teach me to chain pull everything
mighty valley
necro fun
strong forum
Spiteful/necrotic would like a word
sweet summit
?
minor helm
sweet summit
minor helm
Sometimes you gotta stay and pump
dawn canyon
Was lock also healing?
minor helm
minor helm
sweet summit
: )
drifting fable
minor helm
Oh now I see it’s projection
sweet summit
yeah?
minor helm
sweet summit
needed one for next week...
why would i do keys higher than 15
oh nyo
not sure
qruza wanted to do keys
lol
ok
carmine pine
King alert
sweet summit
tocksick
minor helm
strong forum
drifting fable
cinder storm
drifting fable
odang
shut summit
drifting fable
thats quite the buff
vestal moat
I am...pleased.
urban portal
Holy fuck
dawn canyon
Where do you see this
urban portal
Now people are going to ask whether codex stamina is good
cinder storm
codex op
urban portal
You know people come here ask stupid questions
dawn canyon
You know people come here ask stupid questions
urban portal
Also yeah where do you see that
noble nacelle
season 4 patch notes
shut summit
Old Warrior’s Soul Haste granted per stack reduced by 10%.
vestal moat
ows
stray kernel
it's in the patchnotes
stray kernel
items and rewards section
shut summit
drifting fable
shouldnt change how we play too incredibly much. can finally maybe use IP a little more reactively but its still gonna be up all the damn time
vestal moat
this is a sick change, we will likely be the best defensive tank. Sitll need utility but for just living
i hope we keep this into DF. 🙂
ocean yoke
ive seen enough, we are now the strongest tank. possibly ever
sweet summit
real
alpine shard
```Old Warrior’s Soul Haste granted per stack reduced by 10%.```
still stupidly OP
ocean yoke
no aegis changes
dreamy wedge
Kind of amazed Aegis and RDM didn't get adjusted at all, both those tank trinkets are nuts
urban portal
Hopefully it caps at 100% of your hp
urban portal
Kind of amazed Aegis and RDM didn't get adjusted at all, both those tank trinket...
Fairly sure they are only nerfing over performing trinkets from dungeons
Except ows
unborn karma
definitely not a meta whore, should i be leveling my prot war now for m+ with these buffs
hollow zodiac
this change is very pog
dreamy wedge
Fairly sure they are only nerfing over performing trinkets from dungeons
And OWS, but yeah that's a fair point. Still, those two are super stronk, esp. Aegis. Sometimes Aegis is basically 8 seconds of invulerability
drifting fable
i wonder if OWS was gonna be super cracked with the scale up
potent anvil
torn gust
yay
drifting fable
carmine pine
dreamy wedge
Kinda hinges on what they mean by 'capped based on health', but it sounds sick
trail rune
@sweet summit good change or?
sweet summit
no
trail rune
sad
torn gust
lol
sweet summit
real
teal bison
Back to tanking again, sad
deep steppe
Are any of the trinkets from the S4 dungeons worth getting? Or should I just rock OWS & Aegis when I get them?
cinder storm
Yes
lofty widget
get the mechagon rings tho
strong forum
Yeah uhm